'China, Russia back India on UN terror resolution targeting Pakistan'

Published: February 3, 2015
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A file photo of United Nations General Assembly. PHOTO: REUTERS

A file photo of United Nations General Assembly. PHOTO: REUTERS

NEW DELHI: China and Russia decided on Monday to back the Comprehensive Convention on International Terrorism (CCIT) — a resolution supported by India and heavily biased against Pakistan.

At a meeting of Russia-India-China (RIC) in Beijing, Indian External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj said her counterparts from the two countries understood the need for endorsing the resolution that has been pending at the UN for nearly two decades and seeks to widen the existing definition of terrorism.

The CCIT was proposed by India in 1996 in lieu of Pakistan allegedly backing Kashmiri separatists.

In Tuesday’s meeting, the RIC communiqué vouched to oppose terrorism of all forms and called all countries to join efforts in combating terrorism together with the United Nations.

Speaking at a press conference after the RIC meeting, Swaraj told reporters: “Our discussions on terrorism brought consensus on two issues. Firstly, there can be no ideological, religious, political, racial or any other justification for the acts of terrorism and secondly the need to bring to justice perpetrators, organizers, financiers and sponsors of these acts of terror.”

Swaraj added that the ministers emphasized the need to step up information gathering and sharing and prevent the use of the Internet and other information and communication technologies (ICTs) for the purposes of recruitment and incitement to commit terrorist acts.

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Reader Comments (110)

  • Haroon
    Feb 3, 2015 - 6:50PM

    Pakistan is the biggest victim of terrorism. It will support this resolution. As a result, India will have to stop helping terrorists in Afghanistan and Iran against Pakistan.

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  • Rahul
    Feb 3, 2015 - 6:51PM

    ahmed qureshi will start to rant again.
    ET will NOT publish my comment AGAIN.

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  • Musa
    Feb 3, 2015 - 6:52PM

    The heading says something else the article says something else. When in reality it means nothing new. what is going on ET?

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  • harsh
    Feb 3, 2015 - 6:52PM

    This is a myth china will never support anything against Pakistan

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  • Abdullah
    Feb 3, 2015 - 6:53PM

    Open your eyes Pakistan this is your last chance. No one is friend in this World of Capitalism. If Pakistan doesn’t wake up now, it will be no more in this World.

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  • Usama
    Feb 3, 2015 - 6:53PM

    Absolutely ridiculous & manipulated reporting…
    India seeks to move a resolution in the UN to punish those who shelter and finance terrorism. How comes it is targeting Pakistan anyways? Our army is involved in an ongoing operation and we as a nation are brutally effected by various terrorist outfits. The operation wouldnt have taken place if Pakistan is supporting or providing shelter to Terrorist. Period

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  • pakistani
    Feb 3, 2015 - 6:58PM

    What’s against Pakistan in this ? Pakistan would also back india on this resolution,i guess.

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  • KashmirMuslim
    Feb 3, 2015 - 6:59PM

    All weather friend except indian weather..lol…still they want kashmir..very good…

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  • KashmirMuslim
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:00PM

    azad kashmir..bahut jaldi azad hogaa….dont worry..

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  • ModiFied
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:01PM

    Bitter words from sweeter than honey friend.

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  • aazan
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:01PM

    Russia, because of chechnya. China, because of uighur and India, because of Kashmir.

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  • Kalki
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:01PM

    I am sure there is a lesson in there for Pakistan. There is no such thing as an “all-weather friend”. It is all about each nation’s best interest.

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  • Usman
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:08PM

    So much for Pak-China Friendship… duh!

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  • Ahmed
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:08PM

    Indian External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj said her counterparts from the two countries understood the need for endorsing the resolution” Is there any formal statement from Russian or Chinese officials? NO

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  • Ahmed
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:11PM

    “Indian External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj said her counterparts from the two countries understood the need for endorsing the resolution”. No Russian or Chinese officials’ statement???? What about the UN resolutions on Kashmir pending for last 6 decades? ET??

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  • Aftab
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:14PM

    If India so much respects the United Nations(UN) definitions, then it should first of all conduct polls in Kashmir according to UN resolutions.

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  • Mahmood
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:15PM

    Pakistan should subsequently use the opportunity to bring up the subject of state sponsored meddling by India in Baluchistan and adjoining tribal areas

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  • Priya
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:22PM

    Pakistan needs to wake up and smell the coffee, this move of RIC does not have to be against Pakistan, if only Pakistan itself decides to take care of the terror paraphernalia. We (Indians) or anyone is not against Pakistan, you are suffering as much as anybody. Stop differentiating between good and bad terrorists and just develop yourself. If you simply shift your perspective, you will realise that all world is with you not against you.

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  • Manju
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:29PM

    It seems the all weather has finally understood his all weather interests in Xinjiang province…

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  • umar
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:31PM

    Here we go again India loves to accuse Pakistan. What is the goal of indian of this earth? Yes gentlement to accuse Pakistan again and again. I think their is hidden politicis behind this support. Russia is not friends with Western countryies anymore therefore they need some support. They backed India so they can get some economic benifitcs. China is afraid from US in Indian. So ofcourse play your game no proble :P If Pakistan did support terrorisme and was behind terrorists attacks in Indian then the whole world would put santions on Pk. That never happend.

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  • Ammar
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:31PM

    The awkward moment when Modi will realise that the resolution will also be implemented on India who is sponsoring terrorist activities in Balochistan…cheers :)

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  • Lahori
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:31PM

    What about India’s support of terrorist factions?

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  • abreez
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:34PM

    India asks Japan if it’s interested in Rs 50,000 crore submarine project
    Jan 29, 2015
    TOI
    NEW DELHI: Russia, France, Germany and Spain, all better watch out. They may have to contend with Japan in the race to supply submarines to India. In keeping with their expanding strategic partnership, the Modi government has asked the Shinzo Abe administration whether it would be interested in the over Rs 50,000 crore project to build six stealth submarines in India.

    With Japan recently ending its decades old self-imposed arms export embargo, New Delhi has forwarded “a proposal” to Tokyo to “consider the possibility” of making its latest diesel-electric Soryu-class submarines in India, say sources.

    This “feeler” dovetails into PM Narendra Modi’s strategic outreach to Japan, as well as Australia and the US, since he took over last year. The possible sale of Japanese US-2i ShinMayva amphibious aircraft to the Indian Navy is already being discussed. Australia, too, is considering the Soryu submarines to replace its ageing Collins-class vessels.
    The US, on its part, has been pushing for greater defence cooperation among India, Japan and Australia to counter China’s assertiveness in the Asia-Pacific region. The recent Obama-Modi summit led to the “joint strategic vision for Asia-Pacific and Indian Ocean Region” with a direct reference to South China Sea, where China is locked in territorial disputes with its neighbours. Both Japan and Australia are also keen to participate in the annual Indo-US Malabar naval exercise on a regular basis, which has riled China in the past.

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  • raider
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:36PM

    who would make understand the world’s’ most naive Pakistani belligerency loving peoples that world has gone to 21th century and they are pursuing their dirty craze, time is nigh when Pakistan would be dustbin case, , unarmed you except state, expel out corruption, don’t beg , have accountability , work for country not for just yourself, don’t make money in lieu of killing our peoples, bitter truth, mostly would not like to swallow

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  • Nimi
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:37PM

    Looks like the big boys are ganging up. There goes Pak’s all-weather friend!!!!

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  • useless civilian
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:37PM

    Another landmark achievement of our foreign policy endeavours. Well done the pakistani policy makers………… the Generals !!!

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  • abreez
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:41PM

    Sino-Pakistan economic corridor nears implementation phase
    Want China Times
    2015-02-03
    China is pushing for the development of an economic corridor to Pakistan as a key component of its national development strategy of “One Belt and One Road,” according to the Shanghai Securities News.
    During a meeting with Sardar Ayaz Sadiq, speaker of the National Assembly of Pakistan, on Jan. 30 in Beijing, Chinese premier Li Keqiang said that a Sino-Pakistan economic corridor functions as the strategic framework for the cooperation of the two nations.
    Shanghai Securities News said the Sino-Pakistan economic corridor project will begin implementation this year, highlighting the construction of major transportation infrastructure.
    The Pakistani government has issued invitations to businesses, including Chinese ones, for taking part in the opening bidding for some highway projects under the auspices of the economic corridor project. Another related item is the development of Gwadar Port on the Arabian Sea, in Pakistan’s Baluchistan province.
    The municipal government of Xinjiang Uyghur autonomous region, which borders Pakistan, will play an active role in the economic corridor project. The Xinjian Production and Construction Corps, for instance, is ready to undertake various transportation projects in Pakistan, including highways, airports and bridges.

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  • Wake up call
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:43PM

    “Friendship sweeter than honey, deeper than the deepest sea.” No. My fellow Pakistanis, NO. At least now you should understand that depending on others is not the solution.

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  • Waseem Sarwar
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:44PM

    lol. I can’t find anything against Pakistan in it other than that it was proposed by India. BTW who cares about UN anymore. Least India and Israel don’t.

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  • Feb 3, 2015 - 7:48PM

    So what india think they sponser terrorism in balochistan and all world know about it ,

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  • Kam
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:50PM

    I dont see any reason even for Pakistan to differ from wording of this resolution. It does not include the word Pakistan. Can be used against India for its involvement and supporting terrorism in Baluchistan and aiding TTP.

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  • Jawad U Rahman
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:51PM

    Pakistan should also support the resolution, and make it applicable to all nations, as well as to present and past. It should use the resolution to make India apologize to the world for its open and well documented support of terrorism in the former East Pakistan, Balochistan, and Sri Lanka.

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  • etbjLnch
    Feb 3, 2015 - 7:58PM

    We, the Pakistanis, welcome this move. It will provided us the opportunity to explain to the world who are the real terrorists and who are the real victims of terrorism, and who are the real sponsors of terrorists and terrorism. The biggest sponsor of terrorists and terrorism is India and its intelligence agency RAW who trained, armed, and financed LTTE — declared by UN as terrorist outfit — who caused insurmountable destruction in Sri Lanka for 30 long years. Hundreds of thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars were lost in that terror campaign of India. Same was the case with Mukti Bahini again who was trained, armed, and funded by India that caused tremendous misery and loss of life on both sides. Now India is again involved in a covert terror campaign against Pakistan by supporting Baloch separatists and TTP terrorists via Afghanistan of which Pakistan suffered terrifying loss of 60,000+ lives and 100+ billions of dollars in terror acts and lost economic opportunities. Please hurry and table the resolution. Pakistan should make sure that the resolution is tabled under “binding” article unlike the Kashmir resolution which was tabled by India under “non-binding” article. Enough is enough, “Bhagal Main Churri, aur Monh Pay Ram Ram”

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  • Bilal
    Feb 3, 2015 - 8:09PM

    Actually this article was published in Times of India yesterday and ET didn’t even change a single word and published it.Much talk of journalism and investigation.

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  • Ramachandran
    Feb 3, 2015 - 8:23PM

    @Waseem Sarwar:
    We do care about UN and that is why we took iniative to get UNSC seat and reform. As far as india not caring about UN. Kashmir resolution is “non binding”. And after you signed “Simla agreement years later. It became bilateral, no third institution or country can come in to interfere.Legality matters. And it’s you who had to follow the resolution. Vacate the tribals, remove soldiers and hand it to india for pleblicite. Did you do it?
    @umar “world would put sanction on pk. That didn’t happen.”
    World countries and UN did ban those organisation behind mumbai attack who roam as free citizen in your country and given special train services for their programmes.
    @ammar UN/world wants proof, not your words spoken by panelist on tv or FO statements to please local audience. No such proof has been given to UN nor has it been accepted. Instead ban ki moon lauded india and requested it to actively take part in afganistan last week. So did america. @ etbjlych Srilankan Tamils killed Rajiv Gandhi because we supported srilanka and waged war on those terrorist. The killers are still in indian jail. Update yourself.

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  • Feb 3, 2015 - 8:23PM

    Hahaha.. China and Russia support India against Pakistan. Hahahahahahaha. Very funny report. Hahahahaha….hahaha

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  • Malatesh
    Feb 3, 2015 - 8:24PM

    Sartaz azeez is in tension again.. Pakistan, you are cornered now. Wakeup now for the sake of your citizens atleast.

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  • aazan
    Feb 3, 2015 - 8:25PM

    @Waseem Sarwar: as if Pakistan is the only one following UN. If so liberate balochistan.

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  • Ali
    Feb 3, 2015 - 8:27PM

    A very good resolution. This means we will hold India accountable for state sponsored terrorism in Pakistan of blowing schools and killing people randomly through paid mercenaries.

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  • roarwali
    Feb 3, 2015 - 8:33PM

    So Pakistanis should understand, China is not the perpetual partner. I have been of the view the day i left Pakistan and met Chinese people abroad. Some of the Chinese even don’t know where Pakistan is located not to mention the friendship.

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  • Malatesh123
    Feb 3, 2015 - 8:35PM

    “What about Indian sponser terrorism
    in balochistan”

    Till now I didnt see anything in Pakistan media about this except some quotes and unquotes by some people, they are telling that they dont have any proofs to show it to their own people..

    No one in the world believes you unless you show some concrete proofs to your own citizens and your own Media.

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  • Anon
    Feb 3, 2015 - 8:58PM

    The Chinese are a lot smarter than what Pakistan gives them credit for. China has little to gain by antagonizing India. Pakistan like N.Korea is a liability. Get too close and they will ask you for money.

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  • Jawad U Rahman
    Feb 3, 2015 - 9:18PM

    @Anon:
    I know as Indians it hurts you in strange places to see how close China and Pakistan are. What you said is nothing more than wishful thinking. In fact, China is a lot smarter than India. It knows how to keep you guys primed to be a dumping ground for Chinese goods, without antagonizing USA. All the while China will continue to deepen its strategic partnership with Pakistan, which has proven a much more reliable friend for China for decades.

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  • Sexton Blake
    Feb 3, 2015 - 9:40PM

    We have interesting Acronyms such as CCIT, RIC ICTs and some woman called Swarag who is doing putdowns on Pakistan. I think at the end of the day we should forget the clever talk and get down to simple explanations which people can readily understand. Alas, I do not think this will ever happen although of course we can workout when a putdown is occurring. However, at the end of the day, and keeping it simple, I think Swarag is saying that the naughty Pakistanis have to hand Kashmir over to the Indians. I could go back into recent history starting from the early twentieth century and describe the never ending lunacy of world leaders, but I thing this latest outburst makes it quite clear that certain leaders are removed from reality, although I do wish the Kashmir question could be settled. However, the final paragraph said it all. The little people are stating to wake up to the nonsense emanating from our so called leaders due to the Internet so Swarag said that they have to control our use of it. The Indian guys had better look out.

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  • Hina
    Feb 3, 2015 - 9:44PM

    Don’t trust anything said by Swaraj.

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  • Sneha
    Feb 3, 2015 - 10:02PM

    @imran ghori yes RIC trilateral just took place in China between three countries. And both support the bill CCIT. China is fed up with Xijiang terror, russia with Chechnya, india with mumbai and kashmir. All the source of these are sheltered at one place. Some enjoy active support, even being banned no action is being taken and they are called social workers.
    @jawad Ul Rehman those who you call terrorist, bangladesh calls them their national leaders against oppression in history. In srilanka, we gave srilankans govt weapons and sent our peace keeping force to eradicate them decades back. We paid the price of it by losing our PM Rajiv gandhi who the lankan tamil terrorist killed in revenge. For Baluchistan, yet to see any proof or any world body supporting your claims.
    Its about sheltering banned people who have attacked other country in their nation in today’s time. Do you have any name we are sheltering in our country that is in UN banned and wanted list? Eg OBL, Jud type?

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  • Wizarat
    Feb 3, 2015 - 10:03PM

    You keep killing my people, you are not providing protection to our workers, you train people to go back to China and create mayhem
    You are delusional as you keep calling yourself friend.

    Kissinger’s visit to China is ancient history, since then how many of my citizens have you killed?

    Islaam is a religion of peace. take it back from this Saudi/Wahhabi clan before you are no more.

    “a voice from China”

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  • Waseem Sarwar
    Feb 3, 2015 - 10:06PM

    @aazan:
    and i am good Pakistan isn’t following UN resolution anymore. We, general public, lost all trust and interest in UN in 1948. :)

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  • Jawad U Rahman
    Feb 3, 2015 - 10:38PM

    @Sneha:
    Your argument doesn’t stand the test of history. The resolution under discussion here will implicate India as well no matter what Pakistan’s internal politics were at the time in 1971. India had no business housing, training, and supporting terrorists of Mukti Bahini. LTTE killed Rajiv only after he stopped the direct and official Indian support of LTTE. For years, the whole world knew India was funding, arming, and supporting the LTTE. Tamil Tigers had open sanctuaries in Tamil Nadu under protection from the Indian government

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  • Feb 3, 2015 - 11:01PM

    @Aftab: We respect what suits us. Is there a problem with that. Everyone else pretty much does the same.

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  • Kabir
    Feb 3, 2015 - 11:03PM

    @aazan:

    Liberate Balochistan? Balochistan is a province of Pakistan according to Pakistan’s Constitution and all relevant international law. It is NOT disputed territory. There is NO other country claiming Balochistan. In contrast, the entire former princely state of Jammu and Kashmir IS disputed territory claimed by both India and Pakistan. Your analogy is completely flawed.

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  • xilau min
    Feb 3, 2015 - 11:09PM

    I happy with goverment of China take this decision; when I know in newspaper terorrist from friend of my goverment in pakistan killing brothers in Xinjiang. Finally good view from my goverment.

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  • Mukund
    Feb 3, 2015 - 11:27PM

    @Kabir
    Take it easy. Bangladesh was also not a disputed territory, look what happened.
    We want peaceful relations with both Pakistan and Balochistan. We are not taking sides. However, your brutality and genocide of Baluchi people is being documented every day in the international media.

    Justice will prevail and the occupied princely state of Balochistan will see the light of freedom.

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  • Yo2Da2
    Feb 3, 2015 - 11:34PM

    @Ahmed: How are the two issues equivalent?

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  • MP
    Feb 4, 2015 - 12:02AM

    Good this resolution will empower India to unilaterally punish organizations inside Pakistan and reluctant Pakistani govt by providing evidences to international communities who will now be bound by it to take actions and won’t have to listen to Pakistani rants that evidence provided were insufficient … time for world to get together and stop terror sponsoring nations and forcing them to the steps

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  • LS
    Feb 4, 2015 - 12:09AM

    @Jawad U Rahman:
    “Your argument doesn’t stand the test of history”

    Who is giving the test? Pakistan or you? No one in the world calls independence struggle of Bangladesh as terrorist activity, except a few in Pakistan. You do have an argument against LTTE but we stopped supporting them and the results were disastrous for us but we learned from it. I cannot say about others as this is going on since last 35 years and instead of acknowledging the mistake countries concerned are proud of it, people are proud of it and a minority oppose it.

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  • LS
    Feb 4, 2015 - 12:16AM

    @Shah:
    Ya the “proof” was medicines that the terrorists were using were manufactured in India that the Karachi pharmacy was selling after illegal import from India via Dubai. BTW: Those terrorists were also using Toshiba batteries, wearing Pakistani underwear, and using a Chinese cell phones and AK47’s

    Great proof indeed, that also means India, Japan, Pakistan, Russia and China are also involved!!

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  • harkol
    Feb 4, 2015 - 12:32AM

    So an ‘anti terror resolution’ is a resolution targeting Pakistan? Does this mean the news reporter thinks Pakistan is indeed a terror sponsoring state?

    I’d think Pakistan would welcome a strong anti-terror action! including supporting such a resolution and follow it up with appropriate actions.

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  • excalibur
    Feb 4, 2015 - 12:43AM

    @ Priya Hope you smelled Javed Naqvi’s coffee today Get a life

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  • Azi
    Feb 4, 2015 - 12:45AM

    @Rahul:

    See how wrong you were? ET is a stain on equal chance comments. It has been blocking my comments for a while now because its a new way of gaining ratings among news these days, bash own country and let people bash.

    To ET moderation crew, you are really one despicable, low life, disgusting form of a human being. You let all these Indians through that can abuse you, your father and else for their life long struggles in keeping this country intact but wont let people submit their rebuttal. You sicken me to a level that I despise coming on to this website anymore. Which is a good thing, I wouldn’t have to deal with your amazingly selfish and arrogant nature.

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  • Sandip
    Feb 4, 2015 - 12:59AM

    @Jawad U Rahman: Ask the Bangladeshis. They will tell you if it was terrorism or deliverance.

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  • Asian
    Feb 4, 2015 - 1:03AM

    @xilau min
    I am glad you have gathered courage to raise your voice and voice your views; this step by your govt hopefully will help the people of Asia to confront this menace and also dis-incentivize the terrorist breeding nations.

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  • Citizen26
    Feb 4, 2015 - 3:20AM

    Let them do whatever they want to. Pakistan has been on brink of being declared failed state since 1947. This country has survived all sorts of storms. To combat this our nation only needs to put its house in order and this same UN resolution will fire harshly back to India.

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  • Rizwan Khan
    Feb 4, 2015 - 4:58AM

    No reputable news sources are making this extreme claim. Tribune is quoting indian media, who are known to make sweeping conclusions from small words, just for sensationalism and to increase ratings. Other sources like the hindu (much better than times of India) specifically state that China is very unlikely to fully support the language of the draft. Even times of India dropped the headline from their site, indicating that the story probably isn’t entirely true because it clearly isn’t so importantly displayed. If it were really true, it would be over literally every single indian website because Indians would love to see pakistan abandoned by China like this.

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  • Rizwan Khan
    Feb 4, 2015 - 5:06AM

    @Anon:

    The reality is that it was swaraj who made this statement without having any statement from Russia or China to support her exaggerated claims. Your foreign minister really is wishful. If this were even true, it would be over all papers because it would be a very very very big deal for China to do this against Pakistan right as Chinese foreign minister is visiting, and Chinese leader is about to visit Pakistan. So stop pretending Modi and crew are some sort of diplomatic geniuses, because they aren’t. Literally a few days ago Modi made Obama think India was Americas new bear democratic friend against China. No longer true- you can’t be good friends with both China and usa. Sorry, america makes big countries choose sides, and Modi is trying to play diplomatic double-play.

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  • hellboy
    Feb 4, 2015 - 7:26AM

    @Ahmed: Lets see it in UN next session.

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  • Milind
    Feb 4, 2015 - 7:50AM

    Jawad U Rehman – “For years, the whole world knew India was funding, arming, and supporting the LTTE. Tamil Tigers had open sanctuaries in Tamil Nadu under protection from the Indian government”

    What’s new with this? We ourselves owned it and made amendments to improve relations with Sri Lanka by sending our army to root these out. Today Sri Lanka does not accuse us of harboring them. On the other hand your country still distinguishes between good and bad terrorists, hosts Hafiz Saeed, Dawood Ibrahim, OBL without any remorse. And therein lies the difference.

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  • Yousuf
    Feb 4, 2015 - 8:13AM

    One thing is clear from this report that India don’t want Pakistan to take a clear stance on Kashmir dispute that is why it is confusing the Mujahidin fighting for the independence of Kashmiri Muslims with those terrorists who are responsible for killing thousands of innocent people in the region.

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  • Feb 4, 2015 - 8:23AM

    Get rid of Feudal, Military and Mullah and Pakistani terrorism will disappear and progress will start.

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  • Anon
    Feb 4, 2015 - 8:34AM

    @Jawad U Rahman: Ask yourself what China has to gain by choosing Pakistan over India? Pakistan will ask them for loans. India will give them business. China NEVER interfered in any of the Indo-Pak confrontations. Ask yourself why.
    The world has moved on from the cold-war factions. Pakistan is down the creek without a paddle.

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  • Kolsat
    Feb 4, 2015 - 8:42AM

    I did not read the press release of Indian Foreign minister Swaraj as being against Pakistan. Pakistan should not feel that this resolution is biased against it unless they are fomenting terrorism and and believe that they may face difficulties/sanctions because of this resolution.

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  • Mmr
    Feb 4, 2015 - 9:12AM

    How can one Nation and it’s people can be so insecure for 67 years. Pakistan has been a begger nation since its independence with no self pride. What are you proud of ? Oh yeah Army !!! Did army ever deliver anything in those four wars.? The only accomplishment is killing your own people ( missing persons ) an coups. Very sad indeed. Would you not agree?

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  • Muhammad Saad Khan
    Feb 4, 2015 - 9:31AM

    There go your Kashmir, East Turkestan and Chechnya!!!
    India, China, Russia all together in covering atrocities they are committing against Muslims in their respective countries in the name of ” Comprehensive Convention on International Terrorism” (CCIT), endorsing it through UN God.
    Now like a good boys, Pakistani establishment will say we are the biggest victim of terrorism turning blind eye to the crimes India, China and Russia commit.
    Where remains now any doubt that the measures taken under the mantra of terrorism are only to victimize, vilify and demonize Muslims all over the world and to occupy their lands?

    ET: Please let it through, there are no names, no abuse, no nothing. Very Clean!

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  • Proletarian
    Feb 4, 2015 - 10:06AM

    Oh no. Higher-than-Himalayas and sweeter-than-honey friendship is in danger.

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  • Feb 4, 2015 - 10:54AM

    Dipak@Proletarian:
    That friendship is a fantasy, no one will support terrorists. Pakistan dreams when they want to but an Army used to Luxurious Living by spreading terrorism can eventually lose. That time is here now.

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  • Feroz
    Feb 4, 2015 - 10:58AM

    It is really sad that some Pakistani citizens have been taken in by propaganda that the murder and mayhem in their country is due to foreign interference and not a result of creating, training and arming terrorists for strategic use as proxies. Other than Pakistani citizens no one in the World has any doubts about the source of terrorism, no other country has the gall or gumption leave aside intelligence to call hard core terrorists, charitable workers. That the worlds biggest Drug trafficker, match fixer and criminal has found shelter in Pakistan, speaks volumes about Pakistan being a victim of terrorism. Would a victim of terror prosecute an individual who helped his country and the world locate and eliminate OBL ? The sooner people start using their Brains the better, not just for their country, but also the region and the world. Where else in the World would a military that lost every war,half the country and committed untold atrocities on citizens, be hailed as heroes, martyrs and saviors ? Something is very wonky !

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  • lohana
    Feb 4, 2015 - 11:00AM

    @Aftab:
    go and brush up on facts first, the UN resolution calls for Pak to vacate the region and withdraw its forces, hand over the territory to India, before conducting referendum. Pak forces refused to fulfill this despite agreeing in UN. So get full facts and then talk.

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  • Siraj Ahmed
    Feb 4, 2015 - 11:48AM

    If we don’t mend our relationship with India, we will be left with no one to support us. No USA, No China, No Russia, No India, No Iran.

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  • Last Word
    Feb 4, 2015 - 11:52AM

    A country which specialises in manufacturing and exporting terror machinery only but claims to be a victim of terrorism will be friendless one day and even its best friends will leave to its own fate.

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  • Yo2Da2
    Feb 4, 2015 - 12:07PM

    @Jawad U Rahman: It seems that what you are saying is that Indian Government was doing exactly the same thing in Sri Lanka as Pakistani Government has been doing since 1948 in Kashmir.

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  • Yo2Da2
    Feb 4, 2015 - 12:16PM

    @Yousuf: There is no dispute. It was settled in 1948 when you snatched your part of it before it could become a dispute. Hope you are enjoying your Kashmiris and their land! One can already smell the peace and freedom they must be enjoying.

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  • Abdul Malik
    Feb 4, 2015 - 1:13PM

    @Aftab:
    Have you read the UNSC resolution on Kashmir or are just ranting for the sake of it ? Do you know what were the preconditions for the plebiscite ? Were they fulfilled ? India sees no point in keeping up its end of the resolution seeing that the pre conditions were never met by Pakistan. If Pakistan would have implemented the resolution, India would have been forced by the rest of the world to reach a compromise. Pakistanis being supported by the USA, thinking that perhaps if they waited, may not only get Kashmir but may also be in a good situation to rake up Hyerabad and Junagarh hence they never implemented the resolution. Today things are very different. Pakistan and its problems are nowhere on the world’s radar and India is the favourite of the world. No one including your OIC supports your Kashmir delusion. As time goes by and India grows more economically and you continue becoming more and more insignificant to India and the rest of the world. I hope Pakistan does not finalize anything on Kashmir and 10 years later i.e in 2025, India will take back POK and also shut off the water supply to Pakistan.

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  • Abdul Malik
    Feb 4, 2015 - 1:22PM

    @Priya:
    Priya no point in pontificating to the Pakistanis because Pakistanis will always do the opposite of what prudence demands. We Indians need to work towards improving things in our own country.

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  • aazan
    Feb 4, 2015 - 1:55PM

    @Waseem Sarwar:
    You are also good at sheltering you know who.;-)

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  • aazan
    Feb 4, 2015 - 1:58PM

    @Jawad U Rahman: sharing your experience I guess. Keep saying this if you can get a good night sleep.

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  • aazan
    Feb 4, 2015 - 2:00PM

    @Haroon: who is asking Pakistan’s support? Get off the pipe.Recommend

  • aazan
    Feb 4, 2015 - 2:03PM

    @Jawad U Rahman: apologize? Apologize, beg the world for pardon for 9/11.

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  • Tasadiq
    Feb 4, 2015 - 2:08PM

    All of Pakistan’s problems lie with its INEPT and CORRUPT Politicians, who are too busy looting the country not realising that at this rate there might not be a country left for OUR grandchildren.
    Damn the Zia Regime which systematically destroyed all Paks institutions and created a intolerant religious sectarianism within Pak.
    Pakistan needs sincere politicians who work for the betterment of the common Pakistani. They need to recreate the Pakistani Institutions so they are functioning and delivering basic necessities to people like, food, water, electric, gas, sanitation all at affordable prices.
    Economic Prosperity WILL breeds peace and friendship internally and with others around the world.
    If each Minister did their job competently we can quite easily counter the negative image of Pak, but the relevant Minister has not time for this and instead is looting and filling up his bank accounts in Zurich, London and Jeddah.

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  • rashid khan
    Feb 4, 2015 - 2:09PM

    I think your caption to this write up needs to be revisited.
    The resolution will expose India role in the region. Kashmir is just the tip of the iceberg, India will have to justify its involvement in Sri Lanka and Baluchistan too.
    The RIC opposes terrorism in all forms so the resolution doesn’t effect Pakistan because its army is involved in fighting terrorism (unless terrorism is being redefined with USA latest step of refusing to label Taliban as terrorists) with the wholehearted support of the nation.
    The recent acts of terrorism that have begun occurring with a rapid frequency in Baluchistan do, however, have the signature of the Indian involvement and support.

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  • fair
    Feb 4, 2015 - 3:00PM

    @Aftab: There is precondition in that same resolution insisting Pakistan to vacate from the occupied Kashmir (AKA a ad Kashmir) and hand it over to the Indian before Indians conduct a plebiscite. Did’nt your madrassa teach you that?

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  • aazan
    Feb 4, 2015 - 6:43PM

    @fair:
    Well, aftab was too busy playing hide and be seeker.

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  • Jawad U Rahman
    Feb 4, 2015 - 10:09PM

    @LS:
    So, how is the struggle for independence by Kashmiris different than Bangladesh’s struggle? Why don’t they have a right to get support from across the border like Bangladeshis did? I’ll tell you what is wrong here. My dear, we are talking about acts of terrorism – targeting civilians and non-combatants no matter how genuine the cause/struggle. Bangladesh’s struggle for independence may have been fully justified and genuine, but it still does not give India a right to support, fund, and provide sanctuaries for terrorist activities of Mukti Bahini. If you tell me Mukti Bahini was only fighting the army and did not touch the civilians, go read the account in Time and Newsweek etc. India was not just supporting them, it was arming and leading them. So, don’t try to justify terrorism, murder, and blatant interference in a neighboring country on the pretext of their struggle for independence. India implicates its own past and present behavior by this resolution. I am all for it.

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  • Farman Akhtar
    Feb 5, 2015 - 12:22AM

    I don’t know why we Pakistani taking it so serious and against our country. India is supporting terrorists more than all other countries in Asia and its current example is Indian interference in Baluchistan, so we should welcome this for peaceful Pakistan.

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  • BlackHat
    Feb 5, 2015 - 12:43AM

    Wow! A lively debate is going on over a useless article here. The reports of burning to death of a Jordanian pilot had few comments. I thought everybody was busy praying for his soul. Shame on those who condone terrorism. Again, what is a human without humanity or a conscience?

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  • Dravidian nationalist
    Feb 5, 2015 - 4:04AM

    @jawad U Rahman:

    We became the mukti bahini- General Vk Singh

    This is from his book. Indian soldiers heavily infiltrated mukti Bahini.

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  • shiv sina
    Feb 5, 2015 - 4:26AM

    The UN should wisen up … India would not have been nor would the region have been in this predicament had they listened to the UN resolution on Kashmir, in the first place. Their and Russias n USAs coldwar fiasco in Afghanistan did not help the cause. So where does state sponsored terrorism stand with Russia in Ukraine today? And how will China not get into this mess that so manyy countries super power seem to bring themselves to financial bankrupcy will? Solution to this is simple the UN should be able to monitor oppressed areas and also act on its own resolutions otherwise the UN can be the white Elephant like the keagye of nations snd due the death it did due to its in action.

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  • Feb 5, 2015 - 5:24AM

    Dipak@Jawad U Rahman: very simple. Indian Kashmiris will never let go of India. Pakistan has nothing to offer after 67 years. Besides POK Kashmiris are dying to join India if we let them but we won’t. Pakistan knew this the first time UN resolution was passed. And that’s why Pakistan refused plebiscite. Read real history. It’s available on internet.

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  • WAJID BUTT
    Feb 5, 2015 - 8:01AM

    @Abdullah: shut your mouth abdullah. Mater of captilisam dont relates to terririsom. after US Israil and india is biggest terrorisom supporters. They use the terroriest according to their needs and requirements.

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  • Jawad U Rahman
    Feb 5, 2015 - 10:32AM

    @Dipak:
    Nice joke. I will not dignify the comment about ‘POK’ dying to join India. Just know the fact that an Indian flag has NEVER been raised in any house/building in POK. Pakistan flag is frequently raised in Indian Occupied Kashmir, especially on India’s Republic Day. Again, don’t believe me, read any western media’s coverage from the valley.

    But, we digress. The point is India’s behavior and involvement in terrorism of Mukti Bahini and LTTE. My whole point was this new resolution that India is supporting will implicate India’s actions too. I know it is shameful and embarrassing. Live with it.

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  • Aschraful Makhlooq
    Feb 5, 2015 - 11:05AM

    “NEW DELHI:China and Russia decided on Monday to back the Comprehensive Convention on International Terrorism (CCIT) — a resolution supported by India and heavily biased against Pakistan.”
    First of all will have to wait for the endorsement of this India’s statement by Chinese and Russian officials because this is India saying and India is Pakistan’s untrustworthy and incredible neighbor and can publish any news in its favor against Pakistan even without any solid evidences so this India’s statement can never be considered true unless Chinese and Russian officials endorse it officially and as far as China is concerned then China even can’t imagine it the saying is so far.This is India’s own myth and India always tries its best and utmost and leaves no stones unturn to defame and harm Pakistan in any forms and manifestations any where in the world on any platforms because blaming Pakistan,India’s old bad habit and always old habits go hard……

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  • Bewildered
    Feb 5, 2015 - 11:13AM

    I also wanna say the same what @Azi: said above because ET is completely blocking my comments since last few days, no matter how benign a comment might be.

    Azi
    Feb 4, 2015 – 12:45AM

    “ET is a stain on equal chance comments. It has been blocking my comments for a while now because its a new way of gaining ratings among news these days, bash own country and let people bash.

    To ET moderation crew, you are really one despicable, low life, disgusting form of a human being. You let all these Indians through that can abuse you, your father and else for their life long struggles in keeping this country intact but wont let people submit their rebuttal. You sicken me to a level that I despise coming on to this website anymore. Which is a good thing, I wouldn’t have to deal with your amazingly selfish and arrogant nature.”Recommend

  • Feb 5, 2015 - 11:24AM

    Dipak@Jawad U Rahman:
    Nice try. Pakistani flag is raised in Indian Kashmir using money paid by ISI. No Indian flag will fly in POK because India couldn’t care less. There is nothing left for POK to brag about.

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  • Vishi
    Feb 5, 2015 - 1:59PM

    @Aftab:

    We are with UN resolution, so read the resolution and start acting on it as it says pakistan should act first…..

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  • Sexton Blake
    Feb 5, 2015 - 8:06PM

    @Bewildered:
    Dear Bewildered,
    Probably like all of us you have no doubt written a very good article and the moderator bags it. The only suggestion I can make is to keep at it. The world needs you. Looking on the brighter side or should I say gloomy side depending where one is coming from, there is a small Mediterranean country whose people can say anything they like, and by devious means have managed to bully almost every Western country into making it illegal to go public with a rebuttal, or even to discuss it. As a result it has to be questioned as to who is really running the Western countries. It certainly is not the people who get elected. However, getting back to the Pakistan/India question this poses a similar conundrum. Who is really running them? Billionaires are roaming everywhere, but well over half the population can barely feed themselves and are living in shanties which could hardly be called houses. I will not delve too deeply into available bathroom facilities, or lack of them, but would suggest that China and Russia are the least of Pakistan/Indian problems. Now this missive should test our beloved, but over stressed ET moderators who have to consider matters we are not privy to.

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  • Hammad Abbasi
    Feb 5, 2015 - 10:08PM

    India should conduct referendum in occupied Kashmir and let the people of Kashmir to decide their freedom. India is a biggest threat to peace because she aids the terrorist organisation in region and uses them against Pakistan be different means in shape of TTP and supporting different terrorist organisation in Baluchistan and in Afghanistan .and we Pakistani dont support or trust the us deceleration anymore because it dosent support the rights of Pakistani nation.

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  • David Copster
    Feb 5, 2015 - 11:08PM

    A month before an EU Diplomatic Negotiator Faisal Muhammed informed that before Obama’s visit to India they have complete its home work targeting Pakistan as Terrorist and Failed State
    on US media.
    My question is what Pakistan’s authorities take action to control or stop this catastrophic situation ?

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  • observer
    Feb 5, 2015 - 11:31PM

    @Hammad Abbasi:

    “India should conduct referendum in occupied Kashmir and let the people of Kashmir to decide their freedom”

    Of course, they should and they will soon after Pakistan conducts a free and fair referendum in occupied Balochistan letting the people of Balochistan to decide their freedom.

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  • LS
    Feb 5, 2015 - 11:34PM

    @Jawad U Rahman:
    The difference between the two is we did not instigate the struggle. We had to pay the price of your killings in terms of millions of refugees on our side. We interfered on humanitarian ground and came back when the job was done.

    You in turn are fomenting a separation from the ground-up when none existed. You tried many times.

    You have no right on Kashmir, what is your country’s stand? which keeps shifting like a shape-shifter and opportunist land grab mafia

    1) 1947/1948: It was like: lets go and grab Kashmir before the ruler decides to go India way despite the stand-still agreement your government signed with Kashmir, and in process killed many Kashmiri’s themselves for whom you are vociferously standing for today.
    2) 1965: It was hey looks like there are lot of Muslims in Kashmir and we think they will side with us so lets send the Mujaheddin there and grab Kashmir. You stopped only because we breached International border.
    3) 1989: Oh man looks like Kashmiri’s are asking for some rights in India, lets arm them and send some of our own and create insurgency. Military enters and kills the insurgency and its sympathizers and still doing so
    4) 1999: Hey looks like no one is on these on these Kargill hills in winter time, lets occupy them even if it does not belong to use so that we can grab Kashmir, you get defeated again.
    5) 2000 onward: looks like none of our plan has worked so lets start talking about human rights violation there that would surely attract international attention, now Pakistan talking about Human Rights? Unfathomable…

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  • LS
    Feb 6, 2015 - 12:47AM

    @Jawad U Rahman:
    Also, Why are you so focused on what India did in the past. What India did does not absolve you of your own actions. World does not see India they way they see Pakistan which is center of all the issue world over. Your futile attempt to gloss over your own issues by pointing to someone else does not work, has not worked and will not work. What-ever India did, we certainly did not give you an invitation or right to you to do the same. So please stop hiding behind others and pointing to others in an attempt to gloss over your own failings.

    We brought this UN Resolution not fix the past but fix the present and mend the future. You can keep digging the past graves and that will not solve anything.

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  • UN( United Nothing)
    Feb 6, 2015 - 4:19AM

    Who cares For UN and its resolutions ! its just another piece of junk over junk that will be seized in the lockers of UN. what did they do against ISIS ? Except over throwing dictators of Middle East. look what happened when u listened to them. Without saddam is world safer now ? without gaddafi is world safer now ? answer is no ! now we have Alqaeeda state leaders and ISIS like minded states. so its clear UN is a Forgery to push the Weak states and to protect + Strengthen the Strong ones. there is only one rule in this world Only might is right ! so be it or die

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