India creating 'anti-Pakistan' Afghanistan: Musharraf

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Published: November 9, 2010
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Former president Pervez Musharraf talks during a meeting at the Council on Foreign Relations, November 9, 2010, in New York. PHOTO: AFP

Former president Pervez Musharraf talks during a meeting at the Council on Foreign Relations, November 9, 2010, in New York. PHOTO: AFP

NEW YORK: Pakistan’s former leader Pervez Musharraf said Tuesday that India was trying to create a hostile state in Afghanistan as he hit back at criticism of his country’s role in fighting extremists.

Musharraf, who is touring the United States as part of a comeback bid, said he has seen photographs of Kabul-based ‘Pakistan terrorists’, a likely reference to Baloch separatists, meeting in India with intelligence agents.

‘If I’m allowed to be very, very frank, India’s role in Afghanistan is to create an anti-Pakistan Afghanistan,’ Musharraf said at the Council on Foreign Relations.

‘This is very clear to me. There are consulates in Kandahar and Jalalabad (which) are actually involved in creating trouble in Pakistan. They have no other role,’ Musharraf said.

‘Why wouldn’t the consulates be somewhere in the north facing Uzbekistan and Tajikistan?’ he asked.

India has consulates in the southern cities of Kandahar and Jalalabad, but also in Mazar-i-Sharif in the north and Herat in the west.

Pakistan has long voiced concern about India’s role in Afghanistan. US officials have given little credence to the assertions, with President Barack Obama in a speech Monday to the Indian parliament praising New Delhi’s assistance to the war-torn country.

India, not a traditional donor, has committed 1.3 billion dollars to Afghanistan since the fall of the Taliban regime and is building roads, power lines and a new parliament building.

Musharraf bristled at criticism that Taliban and al Qaeda leaders have been able to escape US-led forces in Afghanistan by crossing into safe havens in Pakistan’s tribal region.

‘Pakistan is trying its best. Why is the responsibility only on Pakistan?’ Musharraf said. ‘Why is the responsibility of their coming into Pakistan not the fault of Afghan forces and US forces and coalition forces?’

‘It should be shared at least 50-50 — we are at fault, you are also at fault,’ he said.

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  • Malik Tabeer
    Nov 9, 2010 - 9:57PM

    One thing we should admit that Musharraf really know how to talk and respond
    and leader must have these qualities so well done Musharraf your speech is about Pakistan and For Pakistan i love to hear that , Recommend

  • imran
    Nov 9, 2010 - 10:06PM

    Excellent Recommend

  • Hamood
    Nov 9, 2010 - 10:39PM

    These current crop of corrupt, inept feudal politicians can learn a thing or two from Musharraf. I bet majority of people in Pakistan are now looking back at his era with great nostalgia.Recommend

  • Anonymous
    Nov 9, 2010 - 11:20PM

    How many of the leaders of “democratic variety” can face foreign media? Recommend

  • KM
    Nov 9, 2010 - 11:56PM

    Well factually if India is doing what it is doing in Afghanistan, then ofcourse why would Pakistan be expected to go after those, who have safe guarded Pakistan’s interests in Afghanistan. Everyone knows this Tom and Jerry show, but no one has come out vocally to be heard all across. This so called “our fight” has actually become “our fight”, by not raising our voices at the right time and right place. Pakistanis thank your leadership may it be political or the army.Recommend

  • Shahid
    Nov 10, 2010 - 12:20AM

    Chala howa kartos. Who is musharraf to dictate to Afghanistan. He should not worry about consulates in Kandahar. Afghanistan has legitimate claim over Pakistan-occupied territories laying between the river Indus and the Khyber-pass.Recommend

  • an
    Nov 10, 2010 - 1:28AM

    Make afghanistan a neytral state. Give it under control of united nations.Recommend

  • Shani Syed
    Nov 10, 2010 - 1:41AM

    Superb!

    Only Musharraf can do the hard talk unlike puppets in the govt!! Recommend

  • Noor
    Nov 10, 2010 - 3:08AM

    India is an aspiring ‘world power’.

    USA shall soon be going back, leaving the Tom and Jerry game, as someone has rightly said above :-)Recommend

  • nina
    Nov 10, 2010 - 5:07AM

    India should spend its money on its own extremely poverty stricken population. They are in more need of it than anyone else in the region. Recommend

  • Azad
    Nov 10, 2010 - 5:40AM

    What did Musharaf do about them when he was in the Prez House? Mostly sat on his hands and now he wants to interfere in the current FP of Pakistan. Recommend

  • Ilyas
    Nov 10, 2010 - 8:39AM

    Musharraf is the only leader who has courage and speak for Pakistan. While Nawaz Sharif and Zardari think about themselves. Politicians use the slogan that “they and their families to be the first” while Musharraf says “Pakistan first”. Geo Musharraf – we miss you.Recommend

  • Malik Tabeer
    Nov 10, 2010 - 11:53AM

    ONe and only Musharraf can say that and Face any situation and Any media ,Really got Communication skill unfortunately no one else in So Called leader line Recommend

  • Filmi
    Nov 10, 2010 - 12:25PM

    I am sure the malnourished children in India ( New York Times reports at least 50 % of Children in India are malnourished) must be thanking their government for being so generous to Afghanistan. Surely they will benefit from the $ 1.3 billion dollars that has been given to another country!!Recommend

  • Nov 10, 2010 - 12:42PM

    It is a historical fact that India is helping Afghanistan for a sinister purpose. It has never given out any aid to anyone at any time. And I hold this to be right b’coz a vast vast majority of Indians are living in utter poverty and deprivation and the ruling clique there is not doing anything tangible. So the donation of 1.5 billion US $ is very very suspicious and is certainly meant that Afghans remain anti-Pakistan. But I feel shame for Karzai as he is a domiciled Pakistani living in Quetta for a long long time and doing nothing in this tamasha.Recommend

  • Aqeel Ahmed Khan Sherwani
    Nov 10, 2010 - 1:01PM

    very well said by Pervez Musharraf, he talked about the root causes of terrorism in Pakistan and intentions of india in very open mood – no other leader can speak like this.Recommend

  • kittu
    Nov 10, 2010 - 2:31PM

    This guy made a career fueling hatred against India. For that matter pak army and politicians made it a habbit fueling hatred against India. Its crucial for their existence. If we try to sum up their accomplishments , it nets out to BIG ZERO both politacally and militarily. So why doesn’t he relax and make peace with the fact that he is a loser. If he wanted to try out politics again, why can’t he raise important issues effecting pakistan today. People blowing themselves up every day, hopeless economy, health care,flood situation ,raising extremisim, education, technology, intolarance against minorities etc etc etc. None of these issues gets an average pakistani attention. So they have to shout kashmir , India , afghanistan.
    My message to him and his supporters..India, Kashmir and afghanistan are not going anywhere. So for now concentrate on issues that matter the most. Try to elevate pakistan into a responsible nation. Just saying our forces are doing thier best is not good enough. Terror Elements inside pakistan can not wage war in neighboring countries. India having couple of consulates in afghanistan doesn’t mean its planning to destabilize Pakistan , It also doesn’t mean India is better friend to afghans than pakistanis. You are not in army any more . So stop sounding like India and pakistan are about to go to war.Recommend

  • saad
    Nov 10, 2010 - 2:33PM

    hello! leave alone india, was afghanistan ever in love with pakistan? the consulates in afghanistan sprouted, or started to come up during musharraf’s regime. this man keeps groping for topics and situations – forgetting most of them stem from his days. in usa the afghans blame pakistan for the chaos in their country, and some go to the extent of saying they were fine with the russian invasion and would have tackled it on their own. and to top it all conveniently overlooking the role of america have settled there! why not russia? and how many moneyed afghans took refuge in india in those days? look at ghaffar khan or ‘sarhadi gandhi’ (proud to be called that). always close to the (indira) gandhis. he wanted to be buried in afghanistan. the only difference between afghanistan during zia and musharraf’s regimes is: the taliban started to emerge and were confined to afghanistan in the former’s days, and during the latter’s along with the afghan refugees we have talibans in all forms in town! what did musharraf do to keep them away? and ask karzai whom does he feel proximity for? nearby pakistan or ‘across pakistan’ india? indian consulates wouldnt spring up without his permission would they? so musharraf with all his frankness should also mention karzai’s role in giving a free hand to india. and ex-gen, we know how india is helping afghanistan build up its infrastructure. what did you do to save swat and afterwards? Recommend

  • Anonymous
    Nov 10, 2010 - 4:14PM

    Well, talking about President Musharraf’s speech, its more of a political gimmick to garner support from the like minds in Pakistan, now that he wants to jump back into the political bandwagon.

    Secondly, I think we shouldn’t talk about India’s poverty here. Ofc, there is a substantical amount of population below poverty line in India but what about Pakistan?! Has this Poverty been completely eradicated from your land?! Moreoever can you match the current economic/political growth of India?!

    Also, I am NOT talking sides here, albeit just trying to see things as any rational minded person would have.Recommend

  • Hamid
    Nov 10, 2010 - 5:24PM

    You call that a political gimmick? Let me tell you my friend that Musharraf is so great a leader here that he needs no cheap publicity to gain support from the Pakistanis. So I disagree with your viewpoint here.

    However,I completely agree that at present India is going places with its current 8-9% economic growth. We should look into the poverty-striken Pakistan first before commenting about India’s poverty.Recommend

  • One4fun
    Nov 10, 2010 - 5:53PM

    Since when did building roads,Hospitals and infrastructure in Afganistan become an Anti Pakistan activity?Recommend

  • Anoop
    Nov 10, 2010 - 10:16PM

    No Mr.Musharaff, all the credit for creating Anti-Pakistan Afghanistan goes to Pakistan and Pakistan alone by supporting the Murderous Taliban.

    After the collapse of SU and its withdrawal from Afghanistan, Pakistan had the chance of supporting a democratic regime. But, nooooo.. Pakistan took the easy way out and supported the Mujahideens who later formed the Taliban.

    Indian movies are loved in Afghanistan and its contribution to building Schools, hospitals and roads is well recognized. In steer contrast to Pakistan’s approach, India is building a Parliament for Afghanistan!

    It has built the,highly important, port in Iran, which eliminates partially Afghanistan’s dependence on Pakistan for access to the sea.

    For those who ask the question why India is helping Afghanistan when its own people live in poverty, I tell them, the same reason why a bankrupt US is giving billions to Pakistan in aid- National security and interests.Recommend

  • Nov 11, 2010 - 4:15AM

    Mr Mushraff atleast stop now all these things and well for you talk about people from pakistan and try to improve nation and relations with india and try to think first now india is becoming superpower and its truth my dear and if india and pakistan relations become good it will be healthier sign for both the countrys growth ,dont just blame and blame india doing this and that ,now pakistani people also educated and they know well what mr mushraff want ,so better try to get some issue for benefit of people in pakistan ,and dont see indias poverty they are improving a lot and u can see the last 10 years record and market of india also ,Mr Mushraff Hitler also not get success due to war so how can we .
    please dont make any issue for us and try to leave far from pak *Recommend

  • Salma
    Nov 11, 2010 - 4:30AM

    Musharaff is trying to fool, poor and naive countrymen. It is said those who can do and those who can’t talk!!! So u see Musshy talking!! Why can’t he talk abt the tremendous progress made by India who is the second fastest growing economy in the world and has lifted 300 million people out of poverty, what has mushy done for pak? Put them in war and deeper poverty!!!
    Fact is that India is the 6th largest economy in the world and will soon come in top 3. Its power and clout are only going to increase. Studying here in London, I know no business study is complete until you mention India and China so wake up people of pak and get your act together. Stop talking India down, for no one believes a politically, militarily and economically banckrupt country with a beeging bowl inits hands and all the worlds leaders be it Obama or Cameron are rushing to India and can’t stop praising itRecommend

  • saad
    Nov 11, 2010 - 12:07PM

    did afghanistan supported the creation of pakistan??? Recommend

  • Sarfraz Hussain Naqvi
    Nov 11, 2010 - 3:03PM

    INDIA is helping Afghanistan to see to it that NATO forces remain bogged down there so that TALIBAN (helped by RUSSIA through INDIA) can bleed them white and thus revenge RUSSIAN defeat at the hands of Americans. Pakistan must also face the music as she helped Americans defeat and destroy RUSSIA. Recommend

  • vikas ranjan
    Nov 11, 2010 - 3:20PM

    @Abdul Kadeer Hajee Ahmed

    It is a historical fact that India is helping Afghanistan for a sinister purpose. It has never given out any aid to anyone at any time

    Well, Hajee learn to read your newspapers more carefully. Recently, India doanted 25 million US Dollars to Pakistan for flood relief. I am sure Allah does not like liars, Hajees or not.Recommend

  • Cautious
    Nov 11, 2010 - 8:51PM

    Doesn’t matter how bad the politician – he will always gain support if he implies a conspiracy or bashes India – this time he is doing both. Musharraf is a corrupt guy – notorious for making bad decisions and talking out of both sides of his mouth.

    In case no one has noticed – Musharraf is a career military man and who do you think benefits by making India the perpetual bad guy – the military.

    Pakistan has many problems and Musharraf is one of them – in a real Democracy he would be sitting in jail not free to make money on speaking tours. Recommend

  • Adil Azeem
    Nov 13, 2010 - 6:17AM

    He just cannot get over his India obsession — years of living off of that in the Military — dont let him drag the whole nation down because of his stupid India obsession.Recommend

  • Rizwan T Khan
    Nov 15, 2010 - 12:34PM

    So whats the news?Recommend

  • Waqas
    Nov 26, 2010 - 3:12PM

    Musharraf is spot on!

    As rightly accepted by an Indian here, India is supporting Afghansitan bcoz of its own interests and security! Which is aimed towards harming Pakistan politically, diplomatically, militarily and economically.

    India has not learned from the Soviet and US example. To all Indians, please send your troops to Afghanistan as well to safeguard your ‘interests’. There you will know whether Indian army is made of men or mice. I bet it is the latter, prove me wrong!Recommend

  • G.Khan
    Nov 26, 2010 - 3:14PM

    Was this a news? We already knew it. Indians always get there when some power invade Afghanistan. First with Soviets and then now with U.S. Doing the same dirty work that they always did. No need to tell anyone who trained Mukti Bahni. Musharraf is absolutely right.

    @Surfraz Hussain Naqvi
    I respectfully disagree with you. India has no such clout that they in Afghanistan do such things under American nose. Americans would have routed them a long time ago if they were not friendly to U.S. Naw.. they do not have courage and skills to stand against the Americans. Americans would kick their rear in no time on Afghan soil.Recommend

  • Waqas
    Nov 26, 2010 - 3:21PM

    @ Vikas
    Stop lying. First it was a measly 5 Million dollars and not 25.
    FYI, Pakistan also aided India in its time of need. So you’re not doing us a favor.
    Give this as a charity to your own poor people who sleep on footpaths and give them some housing, i bet you need it more than us.Recommend

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