I was overcome with joy at the thought that I’d get to meet so many Pakistanis!
I don’t know why I always felt the need to meet a Pakistani or two. To answer the question ‘Who am I?’, politically and personally, I had to meet Pakistanis. Perhaps, it had something to do with being a second generation Partition refugee, growing up in a colony in Lucknow full of Partition refugees, who were conscious even in the ‘90s that they were ‘from’ a place now forbidden to them. Or perhaps, my curiosity about Pakistanis had to do with the sense of loss that one felt amongst Muslims.
I entered the PIPFPD convention only to find it full of people who looked alike. It was impossible to tell a Pakistani from an Indian! I asked one if he had come from Pakistan, but he replied that he was from Delhi. I didn’t know where to hide at that embarrassment. Imagine asking an Indian if he’s a Pakistani! I quickly asked around for the carrier of poems and returned to my college hostel.
Since then, I have met countless Pakistanis, even though I have never been to Pakistan. Social media has helped make dear friends of absolute strangers. I love to take visiting Pakistanis around Delhi. In the things they notice and those they don’t, in the questions they ask and the ones they answer, I get to see my city and country through their eyes. It’s a fascinating exercise.
If it’s their first visit, many Pakistanis want to visit old Delhi to see if people there still speak Ghalib-like Urdu. They soon give up on that. Only those mad about shopping like to visit Dilli Haat. Mostly, Pakistanis like to visit two holy shrines, Dargah Nizamuddin and Khan Market. They miss the plaque with Allama Iqbal’s couplet in Nizamuddin and don’t realise that Khan Market, established in 1952, is named after Khan Abdul Jabbar Khan, Badshah Khan’s elder brother and West Pakistan’s first chief minister.
It is in their unsaid and unspoken bewilderment that Pakistani visitors speak the most. This place that feels familiar and yet isn’t home, this place where people speak the same language and yet a different one, this city that feels like Lahore, yet no one knows the word faarigh, this city of Hazrat Nizamuddin Aulia’s and Humayun’s tombs, where most people have names only like in Bollywood and the news. It leaves them a bit dazed and disoriented.
I met the non-practising Muslim Pakistani, who felt blessed offering Eid prayers at Delhi’s Jama Masjid, and I met the religious Pakistani, who stopped to see a Hindu temple, perhaps a first sight. I met the Urdu writer, who wanted to know if Indian Muslims cheer for Pakistan in cricket and war, and I met the Lahori Communist who didn’t want his notion of secular India shattered. I met the Pakistani hungry to learn about India and the Pakistani who didn’t want his pre-existing notions of India to be challenged.
They are surprised to see women driving scooties and find the food disappointing, and insist Pakistanis are better looking. Yet, they must return with Haldiram’s kaju katli, and some wonder about a Veer-Zaara story of their own. They also love to roam the streets with the freedom that comes with being away from home, except that this is one foreign country that feels like home. There is the Pakistani, who drinks with me in a bar and says India feels free, and there is the Pakistani who feels afraid to go out alone in the streets, what if someone finds out he is Pakistani?
Talking to the visiting Pakistanis strangely did not help me understand Pakistan better. But the experience unwittingly taught me that every human being, Indian or Pakistani, is a different entity. The colour of our passports is just one of many things that define our humanity.
Published in The Express Tribune, January 17th, 2014.
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just boring. Another article on the so called similarities between pak and India. I am from Maratwada region.I see nothing in common with those wannabe Arabs.Neither do most of us Indians feel that way about them. Only some punjabis and delhites may feel that way. It's sad anyway that partition refugees look at the people of the land that drove them away with such a positive set of mindframe.
@Maryam Naseer: The reason is you are at par with them. There is no issue or problem between the two group. When you see each other at personal level. Unless you do not deal with the person, you do not know what kind of people they are. When Indians and Indian govt is against the existence of Pakistan, then we have to be careful. There is issue of Kasmir which India is not holding plebiscite sine 1948 even after promising in UN. Then India played major role in creating Bangladesh. So that is the history. You can draw your own conclusions. Thanks
@Insaan: Completely agree.
Why not take a trip to Germany/Austria and find out how they feel about each other? then u might be able to draw some insights.
@Parvez: It is a shame religions now a days are the biggest dividers of humanity. Every one is same if you take away the religion. Religions are supposed to make human being better.
@Humanity: By loving my homeland (Pakistan), I am not hating any other country. You are bringing your humanity issue for no reason into this subject.
@aalia: They get raped. But in Pakistan, you need four male witnesses to prove it.
When I went to USA for the first time from Rome, I was happy to see a family of miya-biwi-aur-do-bacche who looked Indians. I approached them to ask if they were Indians. The man replied, "No, we are Pakistanis." That was the first Pakistani I met in my life, so I withdrew and forgot about it. When the flight took off, this gentleman came to me and sat next to me in a (fortunately) vacant seat next to mine. Then we talked & talked & talked for 8 hours from Rome to JFK, New York. He was working for PIA and was stationed at Malta. His kids came to call him back to his seat, but he stayed put with me. He went back to his seat only when it was time to land at JFK. Since then, I have met many Pakistanis and we seem to get along famously when in a third country! Hope our countries become friends!
Thank you Shivam for this article.
Can you just imagine the potential of our two countries if a solution could be found to Kashmir?
@someone: 90% of rape cases in india are not reported according to National Crime Record Bureau of India..please google it...
People of both pak & india must understand that we all were of same origin......it was the politics which divided us & still dividing......the greatest religion of human being is humanity wether you hindu or muslim. we should not cross the limit of humanity on basis of religion. In the end i will say that ind pak must unite as it was for thhousands years.......
"My detailed response on matters anthropological was nixed. Let that pass, but briefly, if you are kidding in the quote above I will laugh with you"
You got it right. That part of my comment was of course an out of context "teaser" you know for whom. This should have been very obvious to any individual of some intelligence, which you know the Indian commentators here have in abundance. By the way, I am also not an expert of anthropology, nor this forum is meant for discussing complicated technicalities of this subject. So, take it easy, no harm done.
Regards.
Loved the Op Ed. Thanks for that honesty. While the hatred made border walls people continuously make bridges. With so much insecurity in Pakistan my family loves to go to India (home away from home) but the state and non state actors have closed this door for us.
@Lala Gee: (However, the people in the far eastern part of India are of Chinese origin, and hence making the Chinese claim over certain territories more valid than the Indian one.)
My detailed response on matters anthropological was nixed. Let that pass, but briefly, if you are kidding in the quote above I will laugh with you but if you are serious I suggest catch up on your reading. Even Chinese do not make the fantastic claim you are making on their behalf. China's territorial claims are not based on race. They happen to know that even in areas contiguous with today's China, not all people with Epicanthic fold (skin fold of the upper eyelid, covering the inner corner of the eye) are of "Chinese origin" by a stretch & they do not merit outlandish claims on territory based on that..
@Agnostic: reality glasses
@arshad: " ... My dream is one day for it to be as porous as the Canada/ US border so people are free to meet each other and share friendships. ... "
Have you tried Skype ?
@aalia: At least they are reported in India unlike Pakistan where poor woman would have to produce 4 male witness otherwise she might get life sentence by Sharia court just for raising a voice against it.
@Lala Gee: A good number of Pakistanis claim to be of Arab/Persian descent. So I guess next time the arabs and persians lay claim to Pakistan, you would be the first one to endorse them, right?
@Rakib: As usual you missed the whole point of @Vishnu Reddy. India is way too diverse for any one region to claim that it is representative of whole India. Yet take out any region out of India and India will become so much the poorer even to the point of losing its identity.
This is called Unity in Diversity. A very difficult concept if you are not a part of it. A very simple and all encompassing concept if you are born into it or decide to become a part of it.
@Hari Om: @Dr Robert Kharsing: @Vishnu Reddy
If you don't have anything to relate to Pakistan then what are you doing on a Pakistani news website?.I have never come across any Indian trolling on sri lankan news sites.
@aalia: "@Rasgullah: like Muslims are safe in Modi’s Gujrat "
Are you quite sure of that? Or is it that the women who know the justice Mukhtaran Mai got and who have seen girls honor killed just for clapping at a wedding or dancing in their own backyards in the rain - simply keep quiet because otherwise they might get honor killed? Even the ones who can expect support from their parents know the laws of evidence and the unlikelihood of the rapist getting convicted - so why would they report rape? In India the rapists in the case you reported did get convicted. The girl got full support from civil society and media. Did Mukhtaran Mai or any other rapist get such support?
@Kamil: "@Rasgullah: like Muslims are safe in Modi’s Gujrat "
Certainly Muslims are more safe in Modi's Gujarat than in Qaim Ali Shah's Sind and Parvez Khattak's KPK. There have been no communal riots in close to 12 years. Even when they happened 750 Muslims and 254 Hindus were killed). Over 1500 Muslims were target killed in Qaim Ali Shah's Sind. Unlike Parvez Khattak's KPK, Muslims do not get killed when they go to mosques to pray. Furthermore people responsible for Gujarat riots of 2002 were convicted by the courts. Has anyone responsible for suicide blasts in Karachi or Hangu or Peshawar been convicted?
@Vishnu Reddy: You are very right. I do not understand and believe that there is no need to visit India with all the due respect to all the Indians. I was borne and raised in Pakistan and very grateful to my country. India is just a foreign country to me just like any other country.. I also do not see the need to compare my country with India economically or financially, which I see a lot in the media. Yes, personally I am proud of our roots from Arabs or Iran or central Asian roots. There is nothing wrong with that and this is not anti Indian . Basically it is fact of life for us.our language is more like Persian and Arabic and written in their ways. We eat our food like them. Our traditions and holidays are similar. We pray like them. If I want to visit ,I will go to Iran, Saudi Arabia, Western Europe or America. And by the way, I visited all these countries. I really do not feel the urge or need to visit India. (With all the due respect to Indians). Other people's can differ with me. That is their right. Yes, you can have trade with India, if you need to but keep in mind all the political and financial facts in life since the time the resolution for plebiscite was passed in the UN. At this time, Education must be our first priority for the future.No country can progress with out that. In USA, till high school, education is must and responsibility of the Govt. we should and must learn good things from the west. Period. ( their high school is till 12th grade)
Mr.Shivam Rij will you please write something about Muzaffarnagar riots?The people of Pakistan also want to read something about those bitter realities.
@Rasgullah: at least here women dont get raped on buses
Something diffrent and intresting article.
@Kamil:
Say, what kind of glasses were you wearing?
Agreed with the author that color of our Passport is just one of the many things that defines our humanity.
I am from Pakistan and have had the good fortune of having friends from South and North India, from Bangladesh, Nepal, China and Burma and had some nice colleagues from Srilanka.
Hindu, Christian, Muslim or Atheist, it doesnt matter which faith you follow or not, as long as you believe in humanity.
Thing is we are human beings, we can find reasons to love and celebrate the diversity or find excuses to divide and hate, choice is always there, its upto you which path you take.
Good job sir.
@Maryam Naseer: to have a better taste of their friendship bother to go through their comments about Pakistan and Pakistanis full of curses and expletives about Pakistan, Islam and Pakistanis
@Dr Robert Kharsing: Well I am a Pakistani male and in Spain (Barcelona), living in Olympic Village area hotel, and was taken as a Spanish by the people there as was frequently found people speaking Spanish to me taking me as a Spaniard so what's wrong about it!!??
@Rasgullah: like Muslims are safe in Modi's Gujrat
Oh I loved the article, I met some Indians outside Pakistan and found them very friendly and still have contact with them :). Long live our friendship :).
Reading @Vishnu Reddy & @Dr Robert Kharsing was interesting. One has Sri Lankans & the other has Burmese/Thai as brothers/friends, but not particularly Indians. One wants to make sure none confuse him ever to be Tamil & the other makes it plain that Spanish is not a friendly fly. Both are at least agreed on their common enemy! It's Pakistan that brings Indians together! Pakistan Paindabad!
From the Article: “I entered the PIPFPD convention only to find it full of people who looked alike. It was impossible to tell a Pakistani from an Indian.” ++++++++++++++++++++++
Is one then supposed to conclude that the PIPFPD convention was bereft of Indians who were Dhoti clad, Dosa eating Dravidians?
Dont worry, your wish for a Pakistan visa will be fulfilled soon, yur only aim. The same way you wrote about Kashmir for some years and then gave up after your aim of revealing identites was over. Same here too.
@Arindom:
"Then I changed (very reluctantly ) to Pakistani-run hotel, simply because it was closer to office at Shepherd’s Bush — and I had the most wonderful and dare I say, “brotherly” experience there!! Personally I think the ordinary Pakistani businessman is not the penny-pinching Indian type….sorry…"
Good to see a burst of honesty pouring out from an Indian commentator. Only hope more of your countrymen do the same, even occasionally. And, sorry for what?
@Author: “They are surprised to see women driving scooties and find the food disappointing, and insist Pakistanis are better looking.”
Good article. I have been to india many times. And i wholeheartedly agree with the above three points. :)
These arbitrary borders are the biggest tragedy South Asia has ever suffered. My dream is one day for it to be as porous as the Canada/ US border so people are free to meet each other and share friendships.
Very well written Sir. Liked.
Interesting piece. : )
I met Pakistanis first time when i went overseas to study and found them friendly
The author Shivam Vij does a disservice to Indians like myself, by reflecting a narrow and tiny Punjab based vision that is not necessarily accepted in the bulk of India. Not myself being from that corner of India, I myself have no such feeling of brotherhood with Pakistan and indeed I can say my feeling of brotherhood, as far as neighbours go, is far greater for the people of SriLanka, both Tamil and Sinhala. By looks, being dark complexioned and short statured; by diet, being rice eating and by religious affiliation, being followers of dharmic religions, they trump any commonality that I may have with Pakistani’s. To suggest that mine may be the broader view I would like to point out that I am neither Tamil nor Sinhala.
In any event I have found in my interactions with Pakistani's that given an opportunity they would much rather highlight their Arab or Persian or Central Asian roots rather than their Indic roots.
An incisive piece that cuts through the edges, its time now to inculcate this kind of view in the sub continent, ' Hamsaya' means you share each others shadow rather than chasing it . Good luck to the writer with the hope he will soon visit Pakistan.
@Arindom: Stereotyping much - drawing conclusions based on 1 experience?
“They are surprised to see women driving scooties" Weren't they surprised that the mobiles work during religius festivals? Also, Weren't they surprised that Shias and Ahmedis are safe?
very well written Shivam, Keep up the good work.
"They are surprised to see women driving scooties and find the food disappointing, and insist Pakistanis are better looking."
Hahaha.... guilty, I am afraid. But, good read.
Good for you, why dont you move to Pakistan for a year or two, you know, to experience Pakistani love and hospitality? When you will come back, there will a lot more you can tell about "An Indian in Pakistan".
Thought provoking!
During a long stay at London I initially went to stay with an Indian (Gujarati) Hotel - thinking he'd be flexible and accommodating as I am a fellow Indian -- but I didnot have any good experience there. Then I changed (very reluctantly ) to Pakistani-run hotel, simply because it was closer to office at Shepherd's Bush -- and I had the most wonderful and dare I say, "brotherly" experience there!! Personally I think the ordinary Pakistani businessman is not the penny-pinching Indian type....sorry...
Liked the honesty with which this was written.........and it is a shame if humanity is defined by the colour of one's passport.
This is a really cool piece, governments make borders, people don't!