Earlier this month, India issued arrest warrants for several Pakistanis that India claimed were involved in the attack. PHOTO: FILE
The Pakistani judicial commission was in Mumbai last month to cross-examine Indian witnesses in the case.
Earlier this month, India issued arrest warrants for several Pakistanis that India claimed were involved in the attack.
Pakistan, however, said they required stronger evidence to indict the accused, in response to which, India's Foreign Ministry spokesperson Syed Akbaruddin alleged that "the entire planning of the dastardly Mumbai terrorist attack was hatched in Pakistan, the training of the terrorists who launched that attack was undertaken in Pakistan, the financing of the conspiracy was in Pakistan. It, therefore, follows that 99% of the evidence will be available in Pakistan."
The spokesperson went on to claim that India had fully cooperated with Pakistan. "On our part, we have fully cooperated with the Pakistan Judicial Commission which visited India in September 2013 and all information that they wanted was handed over to the Pakistani High Commission in New Delhi on October 14 and 15.
"It now devolves on Pakistani authorities to ensure that justice is done in the Mumbai attack case in accordance with their own assurances."
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correction: Regardless of what we say, they will forever live in their warped thinking*
@maestro: These obsessive Indian Hindu radicals are stuck in their own world. The congregate like cockaroaches to support each other. Regardless of what we say, we will forever live in their warped thinking.
The report says A spokesperson for the Indian Foreign Ministry said on Saturday that 99% of evidence for the 26/11 Mumbai attacks is in Pakistan since the attack was plotted there,.So let us see what evidence of the 'plotting' could possibly be unearthed in Pakistan.
A. 9 'alleged' Pakistanis other than Kasab were killed in Mumbai. Kasab has provided their details. Their DNA samples need to be matched with 'alleged' near relatives. Where would these relatives be found- In Pakistan.
B. Two gentlemen of Pakistani origin known as Dawood Gilani, alias David Headley and Tahawoor Rana have been convicted in the USA for their role in Mumbai attacks. Headeley has provided details of his handlers and safe houses in Pakistan. Where can these be corroborated? In Pakistan again.
C. The Satellite Phones, GPS and Marine Engines found on the boat in Mumbai, were all sold in Pakistan. So where can the trail be established? Of course in Pakistan.
D. Satellite phone conversations of the attackers with their handlers sitting in Pakistan, were recorded by several agencies, including the Chinese. Who can provide authentic voice samples of the accused for verification? Surprise, Surprise- Pakistan again.
E. Kasab provided details of the training camps and his handlers, allegedly located in Pakistan. Obviously, these can be conclusively verified in Pakistan only.
F. Very senior Pakistani authorities have accepted the role of 'Rogue Elements'. And only investigations in Pakistan can reveal how 'Rogue' were these rogue elements.
For further details, please visit
http://www.propublica.org/article/pakistan-and-the-mumbai-attacks-the-untold-story
@maestro: yes our country is poverty stricken no Indian would deny that, but we don't go around begging money from countries who bomb out citizens.... tick tock remember BEGGING 1.6 billion from USA??...now that's called "victimization propoganda"....btw a FACT for your GK: So called poorer than Africa, "INDIA" IS THE TENTH LARGEST ECONOMY AND FOURTH MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, now that's GK for you...#ATTITUDE_CONSTRICRED.
Mr. Raj-USA: Re: "@RR Iyer: Thank you very much for your comments and I sincerely appreciate it."
You are most welcome! Keep up yr informed comments-even an occasional change of mind among the Pakistani elite s better than leaving the field to anarchists! Best of luck!' RR Iyer New York
@ Maestro - stop pointing out that India is the most poverty stricken nation on the planet. Look at your country first - begging for aid from US and IMF. http://tribune.com.pk/story/623613/imf-team-visits-pakistan-to-kick-the-tyres-on-economic-reforms/
NS visits US and Obama kicks him out without offering him a meal - That's Pakistan for you -:)
@RR Iyer: Thank you very much for your comments and I sincerely appreciate it.
@Siddharth:
Even the ”WAAR AGAINST TERRORISM” is a joke. Pakistan is a funny country.
@Siddharth: @Hedgefunder: Don't talk to us about electricity buddy. "Shining India" where 47% of the population doesn't have electricity to light a single light bulb! Keep up your fake propaganda - life is not made in bollywood and item numbers! lol. Accept your reality - India is the most poverty stricken nation on the planet surpassing all of Africa combined - read it up on any major economic report! Every single Indian friend of mine who has visited Pakistan has said Lahore looks like a neat,clean Delhi. And they didnt even see Islamabad yet!
Siddharth, we were rejoicing after Mumbai attacks?? Really?? Show me where in Pakistan people were rejoicing! We are dealing with terrorists exported via Afghanistan with support from multiple countries. Your soldiers killed on LoC? - you start firing everyday almost and then weep about your soldiers?? Ours will respond to unprovoked fire from across the LoC. Try your nonsense victimization propaganda somewhere else please.
@Hedgefunder: Don't talk to us about electricity buddy. "Shining India" where 47% of the population doesn't have electricity to light a single light bulb! Keep up your fake propaganda - life is not made in bollywood and item numbers! lol. Accept your reality - India is the most poverty stricken nation on the planet surpassing all of Africa combined - read it up on any major economic report! Every single Indian friend of mine who has visited Pakistan has said Lahore looks like a neat,clean Delhi. And they didnt even see Islamabad yet!
Mr. Raj-USA: I read your spirited defense in your 2 comments above here and on other days-and that of GP33 often- and I cannot help wondering: is this all falling on deaf ears? I think the average Pakistani mind has "closed shut" to informed analysis and persuasion of any sort due to relentless propaganda, intimidation and vested interests who wish to keep conspiracy theories as their main source of guidance. Unfortunately, the people in Pakistan in the lowest economic strata will suffer the consequences will the rich whistle past their graveyard. The occasional Javed Burki op-ed listed in this paper only highlights the deep divide, and is a cry in the wilderness. From reading these comments above by English-speaking Pakistanis-who are clearly middle class to rich, show that nothing you say seems to make a difference. I am afraid it is going to take a 9-11 type rude shock for Pakistanis to realize that the fires they are playing with will burn their house down. Just hope and pray that good sense prevails and Pakistan joins the world community to direct its energies towards peace and prosperity both for its citizens and in its relationship with the world community. Right now, they seem to take perverse pride in being an outlier! RR Iyer New York
Seriously, this articles suggests Indians are the biggest hypocrites in the whole world!!
@Asif Butt: Like OBL was in India!
@Saloo: Watch the tv footage of those days when the whole world saw it live and more proof? or even the tv footage was fabricated.Will not be surprised if this claim is made like Osama not beig in Pakistan till he was shot.
If Pakistan turns the blind eye to Terror who is really at loss?
Yesterday's anti-India Mujahideen are today's anti-Pakistani Terrorists.
Ilyaz Kashmiri wrecked havoc in Kashmir in the 90s, only to against Pakistan, when he realised that islam and the Islamic movement is in trouble in Pakistan, after Pakistan partnered with the "Satan" US.
LeJ was once supported by the State, now they target the State.
Attacks like Mumbai attacks happen once in few years in India, since the epicentre is across the border. But, failure to tackle the tumour has resulted in cancer cells having a solid ground to flourish on in Pakistan.
So, tell me, who is really at loss if Mumbai attackers go scot free? Knowing Pakistan, is anybody really thinking the Terrorists will be punished?
I am not in the least hopeful. Pakistan will always be Pakistan. TTP will reign supreme one day and only Pakistanis will be to blame.
@pakistan first: yes, we are moarning hard cause we are humans, when people die around us this humanity in us that makes tear come out of our eyes, we cry when many people die in terrorist attacks, we cry when our soldiers are killed at LOC....yes, we were crying when you people were rejoicing after 26/11 attacks, we can cry cause we are humans with feelings, but looks like you have lost all your humanity...you take money from a country who kills your people in drone attacks, you survive on the money which is covered in blood of your own people, yet you don't have a tear in your eyes, I feel for you my friend and I would pray for you so that you may get back your humanity and know how it feels when a person dies!!
@ saad All said n done ,usual rhetoric from both sides of border in comment section,, But the casually u said of fire cracker took 300 lives,,,it mite be fire cracker for u , because bomb and terrorist attack in pakistan is as regular like power cut in your country,,but not for us because a bomb attack is only a bomb attack for us..we will keep fighting against it.
Et plz publish dis on sensible grounds
@Hedgefunder: Electricity is no criteria for development.Look around in our country and you will find 70% population without even 6 hours power supply...want proof.../ search google and you will be shocked to find that other than metros and few other cities, power supply is at its nadir in India
@pakistan first....... think again about your user name and answer me correctly. pakistan first or islam first?
@Ali: Please do not trivialize what is a very critical issue . A death whether that of an Inidian or that of a Pakistani is equally heinous and condemnable . When the civil society in Pakistan shuts its eyes and ears to deviant non state actors and rogue state agencies involved in terror activities just because the terror activities happen in India they are emboldening the same rogues to recreate the same horror in Pakistan . And today the terror activities that happen in Pakistan are a large multiple of those that were sponsored in India . If the common man wants terror attacks to stop in Pakistan they must start to insist that the guilty of all the terror attacks wheather they happen in Peshawar or Mumbai are punished .
@pakistan first: May your wish come true. It's our wish too :)
Hmm some Pakistani comments reflects the same attitude they had during Bangladesh Liberation war (1971). Everybody in this world knows the outcome of it :) Pakistanis are just too scared that they will be proven wrong "yet again". They have been proven wrong so many times that the factor called "shame" is dead in them. How do you expect any rational or realistic thinking from bunch of guinea pigs who went through rigorous brain washing for 65 years.
Now correct me if I get this wrong - if 99% of the evidence is in Pakistan then what are the Indian allegations based on? heresy or is it completely circumstantial. And to some, likes of @indians, brother get your house in order, as if you belong to the country of angels, before appointing fingers. We can also pull out a lot of examples. I am reminded of a corollary of Murphy's Laws, 'if your facts are weak, argue the law. if our law is weak, argue the facts. But if your law and facts both are weak then yell like hell'. Peace.
its time Pakistan put its hand up and admit- "boss we cant do it, we are incapable. Forget about putting them in jail, we cant even control these monsters we have created. we cant even give justice or security to our own people".
@kumar: But at least it has enough toilets.....
@Pakistani Patriot: But if was traced to a village in Punjab, then why was his accent more of a daccan/hyderababi in his confessional video? Why was he using the word Bhagwan rather than Khuda, Allah etc?
Indians can't help making a laughing stock of them. 1% is just a face saving, its a way of saying that 0% evidence is found in India regarding JuD involvement in Mumbai attacks.
Have 10% of the evidence, yet 100% sure of others being guilty. Indian Logic.
By disowning Mumbai attack Pakistan is doing great harm for itself. Pakistan mindset against terrorism is not changing still its doing everything in half hearted manner in the end ordinary citizens of Pakistan are suffering. First Pakistan has to stop looking India as its enemy then only the problem between the two countries will get solved.
Why is the World and India Wasting time with this Failed Third Rate Nation, that claims to be Nuclear Power, yet can not even provide basic Electricity !!!! Rest assure that Global Community is watching you with Hawkeyes and are well aware of those little games that you have been playing, however when you reach the limit, the World will act and take you out of those BOMBS ! That you claim to threaten others with. Rest assure India will be Observer of those acts !
This time indians are morning harder than before.
@Raj - USA: Big Mouth.
@Kaka: We want Modi the PM of India so that that we can expose the liberal and secular face of India.
Dipak@Rehman: It's already proven by Dawood Gilani who is rotting in the US jail. By the way, Gilani has changed his name to Headley.
Pakistan seems very serious. Let Indian investigative team enter and have full powers to do what ever it wants. Because pakistani's are incompitent be it judiciary or other agencies.
Well they allow america and chines to do what ever they want. Let some professionals do the work ,If pakistani's are so incompitent and are honest against terroism.
@Insaan: "He just couldn’t resist bragging about Bombay attacks. So Dec 3 2008 he wrote in an email: “Yes, they were only 10 kids, guaranteed. I hear 3 of the kids were Hafiz and 2 were married with a daughter each under 3 years old.”
So childish and moronic of David Headely. He(David H) was part of the complete package, so is the subsequent media attack, with all the Indian media toying the Army/Government line. Don't you know how false flag is planned and arranged. Media is a powerful tool these days. Only 4% of Americans were in favor of attack on Iraq(false WMD charges), but after the media indoctrination the public favor swings to an incredible 60% in few weeks.
It is in India's interest that pakistan do not punish this terrorist because soon after they are going to turn their guns inwards like TTP whom pakistan created. Pakistan will pay heavy price for not taking action against LeT.
The Indians are firing across the LOC on a daily bases, supporting insurgent Groups in Balochistan, yet somehow have the audacity to accuse Pakistani state of supporting terrorist attacks that happened a good few years ago! How many people have been killed in Pakistan since then? To my indian buddies.. Get over it...
How about you fix your countries massive corruption from power to cement scandals which are costing, also don't forget the title of "Rape capital of the world". Fix your bigger domestic problem which dwarf this so called "26/11" a.k.a Mumbai attacks.
just for a note, Pakistan has found solid credible evidence of uncircumcised bodies of killed terrorist.
@Rehman: Dawood Gillani (David Headely) an American Muslim (son of a Pakistani diplomat) has told clear story of how he helped Pakistani ISI by setting up an office in Bombay.
Headley, born Daood Sayed Gilani but who later changed his name, was sentenced to 35 years in prison after he pleaded guilty to his involvement both in the Mumbai and Danish plot.
He just couldn't resist bragging about Bombay attacks. So Dec 3 2008 he wrote in an email: "Yes, they were only 10 kids, guaranteed. I hear 3 of the kids were Hafiz and 2 were married with a daughter each under 3 years old."
Every one in Kasab's village knew involvement of Kasab in Jihad and Bombay attack
Kasab's parents were forced to leave their home by Pakistan's intelligence agencies. They may even be dead by now. This information about Kasab was investigated by a Pakistani lady journalist.
All covert operations also called false flag operations are used as a fourth generation war(media included), world over. So what the hoopla if India did it to make stringent POTA(prevention of terrorist activities) laws. It is India's prerogative to kill its own people in order to protect the national interest...nothing unpatriotic about it.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/579244/mumbai-attacks-what-is-the-truth/
@Ali: A country which is behind india in all the economic parameters shud nt make such comments....for all the problems India may have....pakistan has it MORE ....do not forget ...and its a fact...u may check anywhere ...
i tell you what,this 1% is official deduction in marks
Who was giving shelter to Osama Bin Laden?
Seriously we Indians need to strengthen our defence and protect ourselves....expecting something from pakistan is like asking them to protect their minorities(failure)....they brag themselves for their nuclear capabilities and having more toilets than India but can't save their people getting killed by American drones(or even their VVIP guest laden)....we really need to get a bit selfish now..
I think we should understand here that justice for 26/11, kargil, 13/12.. etc
When the state agencies are involved how can they accept their mistake? If they accept then their national security and entire gvt will be under threat, life of people sitting in top position will also be in danger.
All those commenting on India haven't realized one thing. Obama brought this up with Nawaz, rather bluntly. This is the reason NS had to say about this, though this was not in the joint statements issued by both leaders. What Obama said was that Pakistan's courts are covering up and its institutions were directly involved in planning and executing these attacks through the terrorists it has promoted and continues to protect. Watch what Najam Sethi says in Apas Ki Baat - October 25, 2013. Here is the link: http://www.awaztoday.co/News-Talk-Shows/45756/Aapas-Ki-Baat-25th-October-2013.aspx
Now US has come out and have said openly that Pakistan's courts and judges are providing cover and support for terror acts in India. Nothing can be worse than this for Pakistan.
please watch Ajmal Qasab, saying Ayee Bhagwan!!! in the video on youtube :P
Maybe Pakistan could define what is "stronger evidence". With video footage, Pakistan has been unable to convict any person who participated in the Sri Lankan cricket team's massacre in Lahore or the killer of Minister Bhatti. In fact, lawyers paraded in favor of the Murderer of Mr Bhatti in Lahore! Also, remember Pakistan kept on denying OBL;s existence on its soil.
Dear Indian's - Pakistan is afraid to confront the terrorist who are slaughtering their own citizens - what makes you think there going to grow a backbone and confront terrorist who are slaughtering Indian's? You want Saeed brought to justice then your going to have to learn a lesson from the USA - sometimes you have to take out the trash yourself.
pakistanis are doing serious mistakes,
So true Pmahmud hahahaha. Bagwan ki kripa say India 1% evidence kay proof kay saath Pakistan par ilzaam lagaa raha hay aur baqi 99% ka yeh farma rahe hain kay wo Pakistan main hay. This is RAW's death by JOJO. Please refer my above post which is absolute true as this provides 100% proof by Indian Official's confession stating it an INSIDE JOB.
Indian newspapers' next headlines : "ISI behind the shortage of toilets in India...99% evidence in Pakistan!"
lol they are basically contradicting themselves! How can they blame Pak for something of which they, according to themselves, have only 1 % of evidence? And who told them about 99 % of evidence in Pakistan? I bet their RAW got hold of these info from those smugglers who once had told them about 3 Pakistani shopkeepers planning to enter india LOL
Ajmal Kasab was traced to a punjabi village, we all know it was hatched and carried out from pakistan. Why are we pretending otherwise and keeping our heads in the sand like Ostriches? We cannot expect to host and train terrorists to go a neighbouring country and shoot unarmed civilians at a train station and expect not to suffer ourselves from the blow back effects. What other proof can we demand? Some video tape of a strategy session at ISI/ GHQ before the attack. Let's be realistic and honest.
We have paid enough price.
This is hilarious and disgusting what I(n)diots are up to. As reported by Times of India (July 14, 2013) the former Indian home ministry officer and investigator Satish Verma disclosed that "incumbent government orchestrated and pre-planned terror attacks on its own parliament (December 13, 2001) and carnage in Mumbai (November 26, 2008)" creating terror, mayhem and pandemonium, killing hundreds of innocent people in cold blood. India’s home ministry under-secretary R V S Mani submitted signed affidavits in the court to substantiate Satish Verma’s stated factual report that both the terror attacks were a set up.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/579244/mumbai-attacks-what-is-the-truth/
http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/news/editorial/2013/07/16/6466.html
26/11 was a heinous attack who ever did it. Attack on innocent civilian passersby cannot be justified. This tragedy served no one's interest. India and pakistan both lost in it. Who ever did it will face justice in this life and hereafter. Just spare a thought for the orphans and the widows and the old parents who's support and providers were perished in this tragedy.
@ModiFied: How can Hafiz Saeed be arrested who is the jihadi PM in waiting after the whole country is Talbanised ?
"Mumbai terrorist attack was hatched in NARNIA, the training of the terrorists who launched that attack was undertaken in NARNIA, the financing of the conspiracy was in NARNIA. It, therefore, follows that 99% of the evidence will be available in NARNIA".- without any absolute evidence for ANY of these accusations, this sounds as credible as Pakistan.
@Jat: Keep waiting. We are not going to do anything as we are not involved. Clear the mess inside your country first.
Not every firecracker that goes off in india has Pakistan behind it.
@Pmahmud: Yes you can see the power and how the world trusts India and riled by just 1%. USA has put a bounty on your number one 'Social worker". To top it US Obama asked NS at their White House meeting why the Mumbai attackers have been punished. Lear to be trusted or perish forever.
Obama asked Nawaz Sharif during their meeting why Pakistan has not made any progress on the investigations in Mumbai attacks. Nawaz Sharif understood what Obama said to him privately. The blunt message from Obama was clear to him. What Obama inferred was that the courts, agencies, its institutions are all involved in covering up the crime and protecting the culprits. Pakistan may claim "independent judiciary", Hafiz Saeed may say that the courts in Pakistan have acquitted him. Pakistan's media may hail independent judiciary. The fact is that no one outside Pakistan (and many in Pakistan itself) do not trust their judiciary, media or agencies. This judiciary has not convicted even Malik Ishaq, showers rose petals on Mumtaz Qadri, sends Asia Bibi to solitary confinement, bans products manufactured by ahmedi company, and to top it all this Chief Justice or law enforcement agencies have not taken action on the kidnap and rape of young hindu girls, as young as 12 years, right from their homes and covering up with conversions. This Chief Justice went as far as confining Rinkel to solitary confinement in a islamic institution for three months where she was threatened with dire consequences for her entire family unless she admits she converted freely. To top it, the same chief justice who delivered a verdict that Rinkle converted freely prevented her from meeting her family and also personally congratulated the abductor of Rinkle. We all know that none of the girls who have been converted, including Rinkle are still married to the same muslim man for whom they converted and all these girls have been pushed to prostitution or sold off to others. Pakistan's courts may avoid looking into the NADRA records of these girls and Chandio Commission may wind up without submitting any report, but these only establish that none of Pakistan's institutions or agencies have any credibility. Pakistanis may have lot of praise for their Chief justice and courts but the world community knows the reality and how they are protecting the criminals and terrorists. Has Pakistan not paid a price for such acts of its institutions. Yes, they have and they shall continue to do so. The economic costs Pakistan shall pay due to its isolation in the world community shall be enormous. Pakistan should know one thing. It never counts what you say. Only thing that counts is what others believe. Others make their perception based on the patterns they see. Pakistan can continue to claim that the evidences provided by India cannot stand in its courts. But, the fact is that the world community sees Pakistan's courts as worse than kangaroo courts. In fact, most Pakistanis themselves see it so and in their confused minds are demanding shariya courts.
Indians, with one percent evidence you have riled up the whole world. You are amazing people. You should be given noble prize for new way of looking at the world.
Why are we even trying??....we would continue with demands of justice, pakistan would keep denying and western world would keep showing their sympathies..."WAR AGAINST TERRORISM" huh what a joke....
Didn't the Indian said they have given concrete evidence to Pakistan? But if 99% evidence is in Pakistan and they don't have it, does that mean they were lying earlier? Which can potentially mean they r lying now too?
Did India do justice and punished those who burnt Pakistani passengers by using chemicals in sumjutah express.Not a very old case to remember.
Pakistanis don't know that by not bringing the perpetrators of Mumbai 26/11 attacks to justice they're playing into the hands of Modi and when Modi comes next year you'll not be able to handle him. Thus, do what's in the interest of your country Pakistan and punish the 26/11 masterminds.
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@ALL INDIANS
99.99% of evidence is in India , regarding all its conspiracies and operations against Pakistan , which are conducted both on Pakistani and on foreign soil , against Pakistan.
the b.s. starts in India since elections are near.
did major Pakistani politicians make India the boggie man? no because this is not successful in Pakistan.
And then Indians claim they are a piece loving nation. Indians are full of hatred amongst each other and towards their neighbors.
In short pak is not going to do anything....
Then what was that long dossier, based on what you created all that war hysteria??? . No one gives a damn to you self created evidence. if you are right, then come forward for joint investigation and bring in some 3rd party impartial body. truth fear no investigation. but Indians will never agree because they are liar to the core.
My dear Indian ! When west/USA is with you then whatever you say is right."When" USA was our best friend even then extreme care was taken by the Americans for India in any statement issued by them.
Pakistanis, we are waiting and watching...
Prove that any Pakistani is involved. Get independent proof from unbiased investigator not prejudiced Indians. Indians just love blaming Pakistan. Everything wrong with India is the fault of Pakistan.
My fellow Indian you leave 1% for cleaning marks ( sawai kay). What a joke Indian intelligence became now a days.
After effects of Mian Sahab's US visit. Arrest Hafiz Saeed and hand him over to India. Close down JuD. Punjab government and JuD connection needs to be exposed. There is no doubt that a fairly large part of terror network reports directly to Sharif brothers and takes orders from them. Through TTP Mian Sahab is having a handle even on Pak army.