"People are dying in earthquakes or starving to death and here you are, wasting thousands of rupees on singing and dancing," shouted one of the intruders, a witness quoted.
KARACHI:
A trade fair at the Institute of Business Administration (IBA) was cut short when a group of 30 students of the neighbouring University of Karachi (KU) harassed the organisers for playing loud music.
On Thursday evening, the IBA Main Campus student body had organised a trade fair to launch its Marketing Club on one of its lawns. With scrumptious food, refreshing drinks, fun-filled games, water activities and music, the event seemed promising until the KU students barged in and out to put an end to the function.
Over 500 people were present at the event when the group of, what the students called, intruders came in, threw down the sound system and overturned some of the corner tables. The "unexpected intervention" caused chaos as participants, not sure what happened, ran around the premises to take cover.
"People are dying in earthquakes or starving to death and here you are, wasting thousands of rupees on singing and dancing," shouted one of the intruders, a witness quoted.
Some IBA students claimed the young men were activists of the Islami Jamiat-e-Talaba (IJT) but the student organisation, which works to promote religion on campus, denied these accusations. "My organisation was not responsible for this incident," insisted IJT spokesperson Sohaib Ahmed.
Even the IBA administration was reluctant to share the identity of the culprits. "I am not sure actually who they were except for the fact that they were students of the University of Karachi," said IBA registrar Captain (retd) Ahmed Zaheer.
"Whatever happened in the end was unexpected and everyone was taken by surprise," said one of the participating students, who requested anonymity. "Despite a little mishap, in the end, it was an exciting event."
Most of the students were afraid to share information about the incident when The Express Tribune tried to contact them, claiming the IBA management was very 'strict'. "If any mishap occurs at the events organised by the student body, the administration takes no time to suspend the organisers," a student remarked bitterly. "They appear too obtuse to punish those who are actually responsible, such as the security staff," he added, claiming that the incident occurred due to a major security lapse. "They [guards] failed to stop the outsiders from breaking in."
Normally, it is not too easy for students of KU to enter IBA even though the latter is built inside the massive KU campus. Private security guards, hired by the IBA, stand at the entrances to make sure only IBA students are allowed to enter.
Meanwhile, the IBA registrar told The Express Tribune that some people tried to break into their premises but the institution's security personnel managed to control the situation. "They demanded the event organisers switch off the sound system that was playing loud music," he explained. These people were told that the students had organised a fun fair at the launch of their marketing club that was about to end by that time.
"They did not cause any physical damages nor did they harm any of our students," said Captain (retd) Zaheer. "Two of them, who were creating a lot of fuss over the issue, were handed over to the Rangers personnel by the IBA security guards."
Meanwhile, the IBA administration had also approached the police station but did not lodge a formal complaint, said Jamal Laghari, the SHO at Mubina Town police station.
Published in The Express Tribune, October 5th, 2013.
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IBA is a respectible institution, or so I thought. I thought there was a difference between IBA/ Iqra & CBM. Ohh well.. maybe some of us really evolved from apes. No one should take things in their own hands. There couldve been many other ways to discourage such an event. BTW - recreational activities and dance parties are different things.
@offended
yeah i agree with you, the act of violence is condemnable they did not do the right thing. and IJT people are actually illiterate people (religiously), once they also have argument with me when i was sitting with some of my (female) friends at the campus, i am not defending this act of violence at all, i was trying to point out the issue, which some times becomes a disaster for the students (who don not have any party affiliation). most of the party guys actually do not suffer with by this problem, as they are not supposed to take interest in their studies. they only need a issue to exploit it rather to resolve it. i am actually against the Political bases inside any education institute.
Second i also admire the initiatives taken by IBA in the field of business studies. the are doing good. but you can not also deny my other point. you guys have parties organized by different student clubs. i dont know whether the management is also aware by this fact or not. as Dr. ishrat is the most talented administrator / leader i have ever seen.
no actually i don`t need the invitation, as i already witnessed couple of IBA events.
The last one was the carnival (when E.P was there). the crowd go mad at end and the mob actually turned in to a booty shake party. irrespective of gender. females were also being groped. boys were stripping their shirts. thats what i have seen. other than these parties. i have also attended the academic related events and trainings of IBA and i must admire them.
I know i can not teach you ethics and religion, its your right your views, its not necessary that you will see the things as i see. but you will agree with me on this: that these events should not be organized with in any educational institute for the prestige of education and the organization. For the parties you guys must hire a club / restaurant or any other venue. hope you got my point.
@S. Bilal:
Can you account for yourselves and testify that while you were eating food at your home , children's elsewhere in the world were starve to death as thye were not able th have a single bite.
IBAns pay huge sums of fees..though i am not one but i know thus whatever events are organized it also helps to socialize and exchange ideas and IBA is one of the top institutes providing qualified and highly talented human resources which plays an inevitable role in running your economy ...so bro have some respect...
well the act of violence is a crime , if a crime like this would have been performed here ..the culprits who have harassed especially females would have been prisoned for atleast 5 years..putting only the female assault alone .and they would have been made to pay for all the property they have destroyed....THIS IS AN ACT OF TERROR TO BE PRECISE..
People who think that these things are Fahasih should not be specific on one aspect of Islam ..what i meant to say is that they should see through themselves first if they are following Islamic values properly..though i condem if there was any Fahshi but a proper complaint should be filed instead of attacking the place.
Islam is a religion which teaches us to solve problem and using violence is no option but Islam teaches us to DEFEND ourselves from injustice and help the weak and be firm against the oppressors ...trying not to be biased if this was the act of KU students if they are claiming the responsibility ..they should know that their act showed that they were even more bad as Muslims.Though we are only Muslims of our names ....
@S Bilal: People are dying in earthquakes and starving to death, and here you are wasting money on internet fees in the comfort of your own home passing moral judgement on people you've never met.
Whoever did it either PTI, MQM or IJT but I feel it has weight "People are dying in earthquakes or starving to death and here you are, wasting thousands of rupees on singing and dancing".
@advice Also, we do not have parties once a week. I've been attending for a year and half, believe me, there are no parties. I wish we had parties. I'd invite you so that you could relax and have fun for once.
@advice Brother, I know IBA is inside KU. But the land it occupies belongs to IBA. And please, 'booty shake party'? You make it sound like a disco or mujra! It was an EVENT celebrating the launch of an IBA student club, using 'government funds' as you so bitterly point out, to generate excitement and enthusiasm. These clubs arrange seminars and conferences, LEARNING experiences for the benefit of the whole city. They make a CONTRIBUTION to academia and society. As with any student event there happened to be music playing. It was not a 'dance party'.
You speak to me of ethics? Where are the ethics in attacking your fellow man? Where are the ethics in breaking and entering on private property? Where are the ethics in showing anger, being violent, screaming 'bomb bomb' to create TERROR, PANIC and CHAOS? Where are the ethics in harming a female, scratching a boy's face? Please, where are your ethics?
And most importantly, there have been NUMEROUS times where I have been on IBA campus and I've heard music and loud commentating from the KU cricket ground coming in the AFTERNOON, when IBA classes and exams actually do take place. These events are LOUD, they are a good distance from IBA but we still hear them. However do we complain? No. It's student life, you have something you celebrate then good for you. We live in harmony with you, all we expect is some consideration in return. If you have an ethical or religious argument against music, that's your right. But I know my religion, and I know it calls for CIVILITY and RESPECT. NOT violence and terror mongering.
@Editor at Trango..
Excuse me ?? these kids actually don
t know the ethics and the cultural and religious aspects,i actually dont want the invitation of booty shake parties.. However i condemn the act of violence, but there is always a reason behind any extremist action. Please understand this.@ offended Brother you should not forget that its the IBA which is located inside the KU Premises. and who told you, you can do whatever you want ?? you should be compliant with the ethics and other aspects of the demographics. otherwise these incidents will take place. you can not have the booty shake parties at an educational institute. IBA is an autonomous body, it gets some grants from the govt also. however i condemn the attacking and feel sorrow for the injured.
@S Ye you are right bro, whether its IBA students or KU, they should always keep their neighbors in their mind. and act accordingly. loud music/parties/concerts at universities, is condemnable whether KU or IBA. But you should also not forget the fact that KU have these events once in a year however IBA have these parties once in a week :)
@ It is easy to advice than follow it.
brother i condemn the act of violence, whatever the students were doing should not be treated like this.
Not that i care about IBA or KU. But as outsider, the way people are commenting and taking sides it clearly shows the divide between haves and have nots of our nation.
KU student belonging to the middle class have their own set of rules and mind frame, politically sympathetic towards IJT and PTI style parties who thrive on religious extremism, whereas the IBA student would be of the upper class, having day dreams of moving to greener countries once they finish their studies and got nothing to do with this Islamic chant.
I agree that IJT or PTI who ever it was behind this childish act (lets face it, no major harm was done), would surely be having grudges with the Burger bachas any ways and the Burger bachas must be posing as if KU students do not exist...
So lets not embroil it out of its context and try to develop a society in which people are generally respected regardless of money their carry or the class they belong.
its false propaganda against IJT , being a member of IJT i assure all of you that IJT has nothing to do with this incident it was individual act of some students , the IBA admin should check the issue and if some1 has tried to take LAW in hands ,he should be punished . .
its false propaganda against IJT , being a member of IJT i assure all of you that IJT has nothing to do with this incident it was individual act of some students , the IBA admin should check the issue and if some1 has tried to take LAW in hands ,he should be punished . . .
I am an IBA alumnus myself and looking at the preposterous comments of representatives of KU, it is unfortunate to say that instead of condemning such a cowardly act they are defending the position of those thugs who carried out a shameful act in the name of stopping IBA students from playing the music. firstly the event was organized as an evening activity so the KU cannot blame IBA students from 'disturbing' them. secondly, several of co-curricular and extra curricular activities take place throughout the year but music is only used in the late evenings as most of the students of IBA are also taking classes till 5 o' clock while the other events are taking place in the auditorium. thus there is no question of disturbance. KU and its students should stop living in an inferiority complex.
i think the IJT should man up for atleast once in their lives and accept responsibility since they have the reputation of being loud mouthed cowards since, let's see as far as the 1980's. Secondly it's still amazing how UoK (University of Karachi) is still allowing such fanatics to use the premises as nesting grounds for these parasites when they are notorious for trashing such public events not just at IBA but even in other places including UoK itself. This will enforce a serious reaction if the IJT doesn't mend its ways
IBA should came out of KU and let these idiots live as they are... student political orgs such as IJT have destroyed many institutions in karachi as DAwood Engine. and Gov tech college... what theses idiotic and insane people are doing in these institution in the name of religion is exemplary... one has to sit with them in their groups during teaching times and they all get 100% marks in exams and when pupil leave their institutes for jobs what will happen ultimately large no. of students so not survive at jobs... and have to join IJT centers to work for their sick causes which they label as work for islam.
@Asad U: Hahaha, what's scary though is the people who believe in your sarcastic comments as real!
Next IBA will turn into NUST
Some of the burgers harassed by IJT thugs would have voted for PTI, a political partner of IJT's parent organization, JI. I'm surprised that the PTI supporters didn't try to "negotiate" the IJT thugs
Being IBIAN what I have experienced that KU have grudge with IBA --- and same what may have been reflected by this act, as IBA students gave them chance to do so by their own wrong ethical acts.
The way adopted by KU students may be wrong (illegal not a civilized way) ; but the purpose/reason was right that if we can't help those of our Muslim brothers who are in need of our help and cant be part of their sorrows who are being killed in blasts and earthquakes than atleast at this point in time such use less unislamic and non cultural events of promoting "FAHASHI" should not be conducted (especially in open area). Our universities are encouraging students to follow against our culture, norms & values. Here we should realize that act of both university students of IBA and KU is wrong. Only relevant events in promoting some value, academic etc should be allowed but with defined limits and Do's and Don't. As parents preferred such high standard institutes best education not for such events to attend dance classes or concerts. Its request to such institutes that review your policies and Do's and Don't to analyze that how we are grooming students?? what is being deliver?? and which type of learning environment being provided to the up coming generation who will soon be leading this country.
This incident where tables were over thrown but no physical damage took place and where the IJT/PTI/Martian/IBA/KU/FBI/NSA thugs were running rampant (or not) needs to be investigated.
In summary no one knows what happened or who was responsible. There is just a whole lot of finger pointing going on and a hundred million rumours to sift through. Good luck with any investigation!
@advice: do you always whine like a little girl when the cool kids don't invite you to their parties?
I personally condemn this act and want the people responsible to be punished, not only for vandalism but also for hiding behind Islam for their actions
I think KU students are not allowed by the so called Mullah right wing parties to party and be marry. So to drive out the sense of deprivation from the KU student body, mullah parties also want IBA to become lifeless as the KU. KU students should demand same fun filled events on their campus rather than finishing it totally from their neighborhood.Finally, IJT k liye to alhamdulilah MQM kafi hai :)
Whatever they did was absolutely meaningful! IBA should get a life since there is much more to do in life than to throw those stupid idiotic dance parties every week. If you people like shaking your booties so much, start working as stripper or there's always a Chowk in every neighborhood. ;)
This is ironic stuff from Jamiat.. Where was their sympathy for the suffering when they spent thousands played their songs RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR NED ENTRY TEST along with their shareef tareen APMSO brothers?? Whether you like it or not, events like this will continue to happen regardless of which jaali hypocrite mullah has a problem.
@Offended: Being violent unfortunately is the new "Islam". The best way to show you are a true Muslim according to one commentator, when you are quite the opposite. People advocating beating people, where in Sunnah does it say to be harsh, brash and violent? Please give me one example. You have a problem, complain to the authorities, talk to the organizers, tell them to stop, there are civil ways to do things as well.
Extremism doesn't just happen, it's rooted deep in our society so much so that we don't even realize it.
I am disgusted by those who endorse this act of vandalism
I am an IBA student and one thing i do know is that the students of KU cant get over their hatred for IBA. Yes IBA was a part of KU but it isnt now. Its a separate body which is entitled to do whatever it wishes, whenever it wishes and if that causes a problem to anybody a formal complain can be lodged. Not enter the premises and start beating people, not even having respect for the female students. I personally condemn this act and want the people responsible to be punished, not only for vandalism but also for hiding behind Islam for their actions
@Adil: We are formulating a policy by virtue of which people even from USA will come for employment in Pakistan. Rupee will be the global currency, and Urdu will be the global langauge. There will be peace in collaboration with our brothers. You guys just don't worry. Only 90 days.
8:30 in the night? What papers are you talking about? From what I've seen in my days, IBA events happen after 6, I am sure there are no papers then.
Also, people got hurt. Someone got their head cut open with sticks. This is not Islam, I can bet half the people in IJT don't even know what Islam is. I thought this was "a religion of peace", not a religion where you should "beat people up because you don't think they are right".
And beating up girls? Really? Cowards. That's all you are, whoever you are.
Their is no building behind IBA Main Campus
I think there is something called a "truth" and blaming particularly the students of UoK is very idiotic on the part of such "prestigious" name like IBA. Instead of being scared of taking names they should openly point the political activists cum students who did such an atrocious act. Also, it would be great if they had the ID cards of the those students for a proof because many universities in that area's proximity are involved in such acts so blaming UoK just shows the disparity harboured by other institutes. The political party is infamous for such acts not only in educational institutes but through out the country.
PS. I can't believe that people do not know that UoK is not the "neighbour" of IBA rather it is IBA which is in the vast varsity's premises. Please think before making such statements. NED is the very neighbour of IBA hence it the sole blame should go on them then.
@advice This IBA event happened on IBA's own property. Whether it was bought for 'a penny' or not, it was BOUGHT and IBA owns the right to do whatever it wants. Moreover, the event was scheduled for 8:30 pm - that's at night - what exams were happening at that time that were interrupted?
And everyone who thinks music is wrong - is attacking your fellow man somehow NOT wrong? The article says no students were hurt - that isn't true. If you have an issue, lodge a complaint. Don't act like savages and go mad and hurt people - the ends DO NOT justify the means.
This is such an act of cowardice and hypocrisy...forget about iba management...they won't stand by students...but I believe due to us being so vulnerable , even iba management and security have their families in their minds before taking any decision...lame excuse but this is what it is mates...illiteracy cruelty lawlessness all these factors have made all of us cowards..sad but true..god bless my iba..whatever I am is due to this great Institute
@Asad U: So the graduates can become unemployable like all the rest of the institutes where you and the Jamiaat rule?
Well you can be my english teacher :P@Maryam:
I'm just glad the IBA students were docile and simply ran away .I shudder to imagine if the congregation of more than a hundred students had turned into a mob and set loose on the 4 thugs. Things could have gotten very very ugly. remember sialkot incident and later when the rangers shot a young man in front of camera's.
@advice: It was a night function. And just so you know, we have to bear with the loud music too when you have your cricket matches during our exams.
Having been a student of IBA myself... i can assure all the people accusing students of organizing a dance party and western inspired parties that this is not the case... they did have music but so do a lot of other events in Pakistan. so whats next we start breaking into weddings and brand activations too?
The students there clearly say the IJT was involved... there should be no denial of that for denial's sake. Wake up people, our lives are being intruded upon by facist mullahs...
Ashamed at IBA management as well... never expected such cowardice and negativity towards their own students... but then again they never stood up for us any way and programmed us to become drones and machines to work in the "corporate" sector.
What kind of learning are u providing if you cannot take responsibility and provide basic security?
There is no difference in IJT and PTI. There slogans are like as noise pollution.
"People are dying in earthquakes or starving to death and here you are, wasting thousands of rupees on singing and dancing," shouted one of the intruders, a witness quoted.
Where were these IJT workers when IBA regularly organizes the charity carnivals and KU Students themselves bought the ticket and attended concerts. Where were all these people when IBA students help the needful. Do they ever come to help and support us in helping them to support the victims of natural disasters.
As far as noise is concerned, i remember tht during classes in IBA Main Campus, I would hear the match commentary live from the ground. So well, we should have also picked up weapons and beaten them?
This is the highest level of parhe likhe jahil.
hence NUST
I SALUTE THOSE WHO STOP THIS DANCE PARTY.EDUCATION INSTITUTE SHULD USE FOR STUDY NOT DANCE.THOSE WHO ARRANG THIS DANCE PARTY SHOULD ARRANGE IT AT THEIR HOME WITH FAMILY AND INVITE ALL THEIR FRIENDS TO ENJOY THE DANCE.I AGAIN PAY SALUTE WHO ATTACK ON THIS DANCE PARTY
I SALUTE THOSE WHO STOP THIS DANCE PARTY.EDUCATION INSTITUTE SHOULD BE USE FOR STUDY NOT DANCE.THOSE WHO ARRANGE THIS DANCE PARTY SHOULD ARRANGE IT AT THEIR HOME WITH FAMILY AND INVITE ALL THEIR FRIENDS TO ENJOY THE DANCE.I AGAIN PAY SALUTE WHO ATTACK ON THIS DANCE PARTY.
I am MPhil student of Mass Communication. MCD located behind IBA campus. believe me there was a huge Ghul Ghapara in the name of Extra curricular activity and we had to finished our class before the time. I think administration of IBA should understand the problems usually they have created and teach their student to basic Manners and Ethics. Even KU admin should also intervene and warn IBA to banned these types of events.
I am MPhil student of Mass Communication. MCD located behind IBA campus. believe me there was a huge Ghul Ghapara in the name of Extra curricular activity and we had to finished our class before the time. I think administration of IBA should understand the problems usually they have created and teach their student to basic Manners and Ethics. Even KU admin should also intervene and warn IBA to banned these types of events.
No more party at Main Campus, take the party to City Campus where it truly belongs :p
Although I wasn't present on scene. my fellow IBA students swear that it was IJT thugs that got in and created the chaos cuz of their intolerant fundamentalism.
"People are dying in earthquakes or starving to death and here you are, wasting thousands of rupees on singing and dancing,"
Seriously, IBA students proactively work for social causes and respond to the numerous earthquakes, floods and other calamities that befall Pakistan.
To my KU-Commerce Department neighbor, IBA's quality has been long been acknowledged by HEC, regional and global accreditations. and yes the same place where we party as per western patterns, our Iqra society holds mega annual as well as numerous small scale events to broaden the understanding of religion.
Fact of the matter is that the IBA student body is comprised of talented individuals who are tolerant of each other and possess the understanding of what is right and wrong and live in constant apprehension from physical harm from there uncivilized KU counterparts.
I should say after reading all the comments. What KU is produce forget it, IBA is not constructing very bright minds after all!!
^ Exactly why our country will always remain undeveloped.
they were apmso/mqm guys imposing as jamiat's - i know few of 'em personally.
@advice: Yes, thats why you barge inside the premises of IBA to break things up and beat the students for partying because you people are so frustrated to do that.
Jaamatis are ignorant and narrow minded fools who are extremists and terrorists. Aren't they the ones who introduced the violent side of student politics? These narrow minded freaks should be rounded up and locked up. Those who support them should be ashamed of themselves and can verify their violent streak by asking any current or former KU student.
If someone can play music inside the campus then its opposite can also happen.is it necessary to play music at campus!!!!! if you can't control your desires then in response someone may act violently over you. playing music is also a new for of thuggery,so if you do so the others so called THUGS may also react in response.for a real Muslim its his soul responsibility to react.but for those who are inspired by the west its OK. MUSEEQI ROOH KI GHIZA......MY FOOT.
@H.: The conduct of jamiat is deplorable and so is the fact that the IBA students themselves had no idea what noise pollution is!!
@lol: So noice pollution by jamiat justifies noise pollution by IBA "students"?
IJT and other parties organize cricket matches and other events and uses loud speakers freely right in the middle of KU and in front of IBA and no one stops them. Rules and regulations and being considerate for earthquake affectees are just for people who are outside IJT.
IBA, Crossing its limits. I am a former student of KU, (the dept which is exactly the neighbor of IBA. and i can tell you what has happened. i have observed these things alot, The IBA should not forget that it got its birth from KU. and it is existed with in the Premises of KU, on the land which it bought for penny with a claim to provide quality education. anyways its along debate.
IBA has many student clubs, which organize these party like events on regular basis. they don`t even care about the noise they make in the university, KU-Commerce and business administration students can not even focus on lectures while the students of IBA having Party. Just imagine what will happen, if the students of neighborhood departments starts the same activity when you guys having your exams. However the KU students can not organize these western-inspired parties and concerts at the education campus as they are bound by the ethical limitation of university and cultural and religious aspects of our country.
PTI or IJT both sucks
its false propaganda against IJT , being a member of IJT i assure all of you that IJT has nothing to do with this incident it was individual act of some students , the IBA admin should check the issue and if some1 has tried to take LAW in hands ,he should be punished . . .
I am the sub unit im-charge of PTI Karachi University. We promise to bring changes in IBA in 90 days. We are already in the process of finalizing negotiations with the IJT wing. Their demands are valid and it is un-Islamic to play (loud) music, IBA will have to comply. Please wait and you will see the new IBA.
@karachiwala I am the unit in-charge of PTI Karachi University. NO ONE from our party was involved in this intrusion. PTI strongly condemns this attack on IBA function and demands immediate action against culprits.
KU seems like prototype Afghanistan ,thanks to IJT militia shamefully sheltered by VC.
@kamran khan: you don't come barging in with sticks and start hitting students because of "noise pollution". Had they complained against the music, the student body would have had no problem in complying with their wishes.
@kamran Khan: Jamiat's slogans are the real noise pollution.
Why is nobody talking about noise pollution created by IBA "student body" ??
Also, they did not just harass the organizers. Dandon/pipes se peeta hai IBA k students ko, yet IBA's management is not taking any notice of this incident.
3-4 students had broken in the university while screaming "bomb, bomb". Get your facts straight, Tribune.
These IJT students should be given exemplary punishment.
KU is too politicized, even teachers are afraid of these retarded students.
All the politics should be banned in the universities and colleges, especially IJT should be banned from everywhere as they do nothing other than promoting Jihad.
These were Ex-IJT students who are now under PTI banner. operate in same manner as they use to do undet JI banner. same event happened in DJ college, and 7 PTI workers were arrested.. and they were released after writing sorry letter to principal.. but no media reported it.
Usual IJT thuggery. It's time this nuisance was dealt with.
why doesnt IJT concentrate on sheltering terrorists and let other people do wht they want.
"scrumptious food". Really? That aside, if this really happened, this is a MAJOR security lapse on campus. Having studied at IBA myself, I recall being harrassed so many times for not having my ID card visible let alone just not have one. Wonder what went wrong.