Faisalabad had won the Faysal Bank Super Eight T20 Cup under Pakistan Test and ODI captain Misbahul Haq. PHOTO: AFP/FILE
India has refused to issue visas to Pakistani team Faisalabad Wolves and they will not be able to play in the Champions League Twenty20 2013 edition, Express News reported on Wednesday.
The reason given for no visas being issued is that India cannot provide security to the Pakistani players.
Faisalabad, which won the Faysal Bank Super Eight T20 Cup under Pakistan Test and ODI captain Misbahul Haq, was to go through a qualifying phase that would also feature the fourth-ranked team at the Indian Premier League, Otago Volts (New Zealand) and a Sri Lanka qualifier.
The top two teams will then complete the 10 team line-up in the main tournament. The outfits have been divided into two groups with top two teams progressing to the semi-finals.
Due to strained relations between the governments, the Champions League T20, run by the Indian board, ignored domestic sides from Pakistan in its first few years.
However, Sialkot Stallions became the first side from the country to feature in the lucrative tournament last year when it got a slot in the qualifying tournament.
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@Waseem Sarwar: we never invited you dear,ur players r the one who keep blabbering that they r not invited...forgot shahid???crying over how their team was not allowed to take part in ipl..
@Naveen
So @Vikram was right all along. Looks like he knows a thing or two about real India.
Now all those who are castigating India on this board are requested to visit the following link and appologise.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/603792/champions-league-t20-faisalabad-wolves-issued-indian-visas/
@Ankur Kumar: Unless you provide solid proof that Hafiz Saeed is involved in any thing bad inside India how can we provide him to you. Please gentle man wake up.
@raj: hahahaha shut up.
@Sam: The sooner we realise this, the better, honestly.
@HRK: clt20 is 50%owned by bcci and the rest by australia and south africa
If the Indian government could not provide security to half a million Pandits from being slaughtered and thrown out of our own homeland, how can you expect that it will provide security to your players?
What a joke this tournament is. Half of the IPL teams, even those involved in spot fixing, qualify automatically and the champions from other countries and denied plainly, or asked for qualifiers. ICC being subservient to BCCI, has brought the ‘gentlemen’s game, cricket to its all time nadir by letting it involve in commercialization and dirty politics.
@sanjeev: Dream On.. Son..
Indian team refused to tour Pakistan, citing security concerns in 2009, after the Mumbai attacks. Pakistan refused to send its players to IPL, as a tit for tat, to India citing the same security concerns.
That backfired later when India took IPL to South Africa. That was the last time Pakistanis played IPL, in 2008.
India cancelled because of genuine concerns, but Pakistan did it to get back.
Only if Pakistan had not tried to "equal" India and empathized with it after the Mumbai attacks, Pakistanis could have played all IPL formats. This is because Pakistan is simply not an equal to India. If it was, CPL would be playing in Pakistan.
why pakistani is begging from india
hi, The event will get money for BCCI. But if they need special protection for some of the players from outside india, they need to foot the bill. This will be huge for a team of players hence the stand off. Unless BCCI accepts the bill the government will not provide security. Why should public money spent on a private event?
@Ankur Kumar My dear ignorant friend, the Champions League T20 is an international tournament where the leading teams from around the cricketing circuit participate. I think you are confusing it with IPL. Best to think before you pen your hate filled messages.
@GhostRider: champions trophy is owned by india along with south africa and australia.
When Pakistan "pollutes" business with politics by dilly-dallying to reciprocate the award of MFN status to India, it has no right to blame India for it. Why not imitate the proverbial 'Fox and Grapes' story and 'proudly' proclaim that you don't want to play in India? Being a democracy doesn't mean acceding to all the requests of neighbours.
@Asad Khan : Have you ever read UNSC-47 ? read para 1) A again and ask yourself if 1) Pakistan has withdrawn forces and tribes from J&K territory ? 2) Pakistan has stopped furnishing material aid to fighting elements ? 3) what about illegal settlements of punjabis and others in G&B area ?
Makes sure these are done to ensure implementation of UNSC-47. If you have trouble finding copy of resolution on internet give me your address i ll send to you a hard copy of it.
@Truth Detector:
"On a serious note, what matters for us Pakistanis is if we love ourselves or not. It does not matter what others attitude is towards us. I once heard someone saying:
” If someone hates me that is not my problem “
that is true at any level."
I agree with you on this, only in principle. But who can say this? Can Shahrukh Jatoi say that "what matters for us is if we love ourselves or not. It does not matter what others attitude is towards us?"
Can Mumtaz Qadri say that?
Similarly, can Pakistan which is widely accepted as a terrorist failed state and which needs other countries' support for its own survival, afford to say that it doesn't matter?
I thought 1000 minutes are enough. This time take more time and tell me.
Claims of word's largest democracy and cant provide security to 11 players - wow ! shame on u BCCI and Government.
You have truly turned a beautiful game of cricket in to power, politics, money and showbiz !
@Hulk: I know Indians do not like to know the facts as it kind of disturbs their life in cuckoo land but if you can dare go through the head to head record between the two countries in any format you will know where your team stands, forget about dominating. And yes you don't have to apologize for your stupid comment, we are not bothered much by what our noisy neighbours have to say.
PEACE.
@gp65: 'all people involved (both Muslims and Hindus) in the riots have been sentenced'(Gujarat).what kind of a joke this statement is-the biggest culprit a.k.a Modi is about to become your prime minister. will your lecturing ever stop??
@Tareen: "they have NEVER been as dominant as Pakistan were over them in the 90s and 80s. In fact, even in recent times Pakistan has competed fairly well, like the ODI series in December."
LMAO...For our kind information, India won 1983 WORLD CUP. We have been dominant all through the time. Get your facts right!!
I think Indian govt should ask PCB to sign a contract guaranteeing return of all its players upon completion of the tournament.
This will solve the overstaying problem and pak players can be granted visa. I can understand indian govt side, once you let them in then never go out. case in point veena, atif, wasim, adnan etc etc
ET.. Pls Publish...
What happens if the things like this happens? See today again at LOC 6 indians are killed..
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/pakistan-army-targets-5-indian-posts-along-loc-violates-ceasefire/1167715/
@Rajinder: thank you Rajinder, now please put that lap top away and do your home work.
not surprised
All the tournaments in the world have proper governing body like FIFA controls all football World Cup affairs, Tennis is controlled by the Tennis association and so forth. However cricket champions league is controlled by India?? It reminds me when we were kids and the guy who owned the bat used to get out always used to threaten to take away his bat so he was always given an extra go and bowled slow balls.lolol. India sure knows how to handle affairs!lolol
@Asad Khan: no, you don't have a security problem you are a security problem
It's utter stupidity from India authorities. Even more stupid, is the celebration of such stupidity by many patriotic(!) Indians.
@sriram
Or may be you should be make a deal with your own government to provide toilets to your people, atleast 50 percent of whom don't have it
@Naveen
@Vikram "You need to spend less time on internet India and more time in real India."
I do not know much about internet India, or how it looks like, but I find a lot of what @Vikram said, happening on the ground i.e. in real India. And yes, I am aware of Gujarat 2002 (despicable as it is) and Sachar report (including its anomalies). At times we don't like to see things thats happening on the ground, because it doesn't fit with our ideological standing and/or with our worldview. It can cause a massive emotional turmoil in such individuals, who try to find a recluse in some kind of wolly idealism. I would like to believe that you are not one of them.
Test
@gp65
Dish your spiel out to the woman who was "independently" traveling in public transportation and was raped and beaten with a rod to boot. She very "confidently" died of her injuries, and all the while your top-notch police were quibbling about whose jurisdiction her case falls under. The life sentences handed out to the perpetrators won't make the rape go away, nor will bring the woman back to life. Typical Indian head-in-the-sand denial syndrome.
Bharati establishment is immature. Expect anything from them. Pakistani politicians, thousand problems but they have matured through the martial laws and learned to be more civil and mature. Just a quick question, how do they provide security to Atif Aslam, Rahat Fateh Ali, Shafqat Amanat Ali when they are there?
@sriram:
...then why not catch the Bull by the horns then, India starts complying with the security council resolution (which She demanded and accepted) UNSC-47 and there you go. Problem Solve Case Closed.
regards,
guys ,In all these bashing each other,there some humour. Misbah ul haq is the captain of T20 side, ROFL. They are making guy who is even slow for test standards as there main batsman.
@Dr. Bill: First of all, this is not a ICC event. This is pure club cricket solely organized by BCCI. ICC has no role to play in it.Now it is up to Indian board who to invite and not. They might have invited the "Wolves" club but they can't issue VISA to them. That is Indian government's job and to provide them security as well may be fall upon the Indian government. Now, I think it is much better to not allow a certain team if the local authority thinks that it may not provide adequate security. It is much better than have the players come into the country and then being showered by bullets, just like Sri Lankan team had to face.
And how much they spend on defense budget?
Sadly but again cricket has been sacrificed in the burning fire of mistrust between two country. Pakistani players came to play IPL- I and their national team visited at the end of previous year. so it is blatant lie that India discriminates with Pakistani players or people but the incidents at LOC and un-soldiery act of beheading soldiers, not doing any good to the already shaky relationships. For government it very difficult to ignore public sentiments amidst prevailing tension at LOC . On personal note, by not inviting cricket teams or stopping liberals and cultural activities, we only giving ammo to fundamentalist and haters of India.
@Sameer: "Biggest so called democracy in the world has once again polluted sports with their dirty politics."
What is wrong when the biggest so called leader of the muslim ummah has polluted islam to such an extent with their dirty deeds.
Anyhow, I am for sports ties and do not support this action by the Indian government. If security was a problem, they could have kept the Pakistani players in a hotel and asked them to stay within and provided all sorts of security to them in the hotel.
Isn't CLT20 supposed to be an ICC event? If so, such issues should be addressed or the tournament be moved out of the country that cannot provide security. If not, good luck to all the teams playing it, especially the IPL teams that get free tickets to skip the qualifying rounds so that there could be a high percentage of chance for the money to stay in India.
@vikram: You need to spend less time on internet India and more time in real India.
@ Water Bottle Ok, I will reply when 1000 minutes are over !!
On a serious note, what matters for us Pakistanis is if we love ourselves or not. It does not matter what others attitude is towards us. I once heard someone saying:
" If someone hates me that is not my problem "
that is true at any level.
If that makes you feel good, good for you. Sleep happy tonight.
India should allow Pakistanis to participate in it they will at least can eat two time meals
we should send all there diplomatic personal back to india asap. Why bother having diplomatic relationship with india?
@Ankur Kumar: "It’s our country. It’s our tournament." Time changes very fast my freind. The day USD flow stops, we will see what will be your claim that day.
I am happy with Indian success and wish you more but what we see today is "revenge" attitude instead of "responsible" one.
And yes, our soldiers are also killed on daily basis by Indian forces
@vikram; well said. For a change, truth comes from across our east.
There is no point in looking for friendship with India which is always looking for means to bring Pakistan down in every aspect - even sports.
@Aamer Khawaja: Karachi is the safest place in the world..........
@Asad Khan: We DO NOT need to remind the world that Pakistan is '''security problem'''. They are not blind.
Good Move. Terrorist are not welcome in India. Let them make their own league and play. Shamefully they want to come and play in India
@Dr. Bill:
"If india cannot provide security …ICC should move it to some other place …..They cannot provide security to women and Muslims in India ..how can they provide security to our teams…….So stupid of ICC, who keep awarding them big tournaments"
I agree. ICC should clamp down on the corrupt BCCI.
@Dr. Bill: Cry baby cry........
@vikram:
Where did you come up with that hypothesis? Sounds utterly ridiculous.
@Truth Detector:
"India is fast becoming a apartheid nation as far as Pakistan is concerned."
Think about it for a 1000 minutes. Who cares what Pakistan's concern is? Even China treats you like untouchable.
Please tell me, with full conviction, that I'm wrong.
Pakistanis knew that Faisalabad Wolves will not be allowed to play Champions League T20. It was expected from Indian government. ICC should ban BCCI from holding International Cricket. India is not safe for foreign teams.
@Ankur Kumar: In Pakistan primary school children make such statement like yours. Anyways its champions league not IPL so its not an indian tournament. Moreover, even if you invent 50 such tournaments you still wouldnt be able to find world class bowlers :P
If india cannot provide security ...ICC should move it to some other place .....They cannot provide security to women and Muslims in India ..how can they provide security to our teams.......So stupid of ICC, who keep awarding them big tournaments
@Ankur Kumar: Its your tournament so play yourself. Don't invite us in first place.
Yeah Sure.... Pakistan is a great super power... "As if we care kiddoz" Its a great move... Pakistan should know that where you stand and what is your class... Instead of criticizing Indian politics... Why don't you folks make yourself a good human being... Stop empowering terrorism... Utilize your brains on technologies... First respect yourself then expect something from us or anybody else...
I agree with India, with so many people getting raped left&right over there, its best to either provide our players with proper security or turn them back.
I am from India. I can assure you that eventually Indian government will give visas. Entire media and all political parties will be screaming in support of Faisalabad Heroes. You can bet on that.
What you guys don't know is....Central and State government's in India are petrified of attractive of Muslim ire. There is general election coming in 2014 and no party want to miss out the Muslim vote. (In some states, Muslims constitute more than 30 percent of population.)
No political party in India can survive getting into the bad books of Muslims of India. As everyone knows, they have a soft corner for Pakistan and anything that hurts the interests of Pakistan is viewed badly the Muslim community in India. That is why, India is the first in banning books and movies even in deference to their wishes. When they want to protest and damage buses, police are told not to arrest anyone.
When some bomb blasts take place, some innocent muslims are arrested with no shred of evidence so that they can be acquitted later. Both the police and public are happy.
India is not yet a failed state, but, we are getting there slowly.
was expecting that not too strange not too new
No need to play there. Not important.... Dont go there to play with them...
But the Aman-ka-Tamasha will go on
pakistan is a superpower....It's just the beginning..something new will happen after 2014.....let the USA pull out....
Biggest so called democracy in the world has once again polluted sports with their dirty politics.
@Imran: It's our country. It's our tournament. Why are you people so miffed up? Why you no launch your own league and play your wolves and deers? Oh I see, You will not get that much money? Aww! How sweet! Unless you'll hand over Hafeez saeed and Dawood Ibrahim to us, there's no question offurther talks.
I was always curious how these Pakistani players will play cricket in such tensed atmosphere. They might have to sleep in stadium so they better stay at home. India can't provide security to them so its a wise step.
Amazing, isn't it. And they, keep reminding the world at large that it is Pakistan who has a security problem with regards to sports events!!!!!.
Pathetic, that is exactly why I always advocate caution while normalizing ties with India. They never reciprocates fully.
regards,
India is fast becoming a apartheid nation as far as Pakistan is concerned. Kind of arrogance Indians have started showing portends beginning of the downfall. Daunting challenges cannot make a nation fail but arrogance wrapped around a hollow system & over hyped glory can certainly cause a nation's downfall.
I have been always very vocal in support of my Indian brothers but this is really shameful. Dragging sports in to politics. Very sad indeed,
I think no meeting between nawaz and singh
Pakistanis will take it as a discrimination and will claim that India is scared of Pakistani Team. I dont know that whether they are scared from Pakistani team or not but the former claim is definitely right.
Dear Liberals, Now please don't start blaming Pakistan for this.