Rights of minorities: ‘Ahmadis not allowed to do business in Muslim areas’

Published: August 23, 2013
A photo showing a destroyed Ahmadi worship place. PHOTO: AHMADI COMMUNITY PRESS OFFICE

A photo showing a destroyed Ahmadi worship place. PHOTO: AHMADI COMMUNITY PRESS OFFICE


A man was forced to abandon his woodworking business and flee Gujranwala with his family after his erstwhile friends and neighbours discovered that he was an Ahmadi, The Express Tribune has learnt.

Imran Ahmed, 35, started out as a daily wager at a woodwork shop in Gujranwala. He saved up money for three years, then invested Rs100,000 in machinery and setting up his own workshop. As his business grew, he hired two carpenters to work for him. “Things were going really well, but nobody knew I was an Ahmadi,” he said.

Ahmed said that his was the only Ahmadi family in Rana Colony in Gujranwala and he kept this a secret as he feared being victimised. He got along well with his neighbours and one day, when he was injured in a motorcycle accident, they came to ask after him. Inside his house, they saw pictures of Ahmadi personalities. “Their mood totally changed and they left without even having tea,” he said.

Things changed dramatically for Ahmed. He said some other workshop owners who were his business rivals began a hate campaign against him. One by one, his ‘friends’ began socially boycotting him. Shopkeepers would refuse to sell him groceries, and his employees resigned, saying it was prohibited to work with him. “Boys on the street started passing comments about me and things got worse day by day,” he said.

Then one day during Ramazan, Ahmed said, three neighbouring shopkeepers and two clerics barged into his workshop and began beating him. They told him to leave at once if he wanted to protect his life and his family, he said. He asked to be allowed to remove his machinery from the shop, but they refused, he said. He rushed home, just a few hundred yards away, gathered his wife and three young children, and left Gujranwala. He now lives with relatives in another city and works as a daily wager at a furniture shop.

Ahmed said that he had not filed a complaint with the police, but he intended to do so soon. He would also ask the police to recover his machinery and household items. He said that he would nominate Maulvi Abdul Rehman, Abid Ali and Mubashar in his application to the police. He said that Ali and Mubashar had been close friends up until they had found out that he was an Ahmadi.

When contacted, Abdul Rehman told The Express Tribune that he had no regrets about what had happened to Imran Ahmed. He said Ahmadis were apostates who deserved death. They don’t have a right to do business in Muslim areas, he said.

Asked why Ahmed had not been allowed to take his belongings with him, he said: “It is enough that he spent five years here and fed his family using money from Muslims. We are ready to deal with him if he returns. It is better for him to forget the belongings he left in his shop and his house.”

Munawar Ali Shahid, a human rights activist, said that this was just the latest manifestation of an anti-Ahmadi campaign being run by various hardline groups across the province, particularly in Lahore, where “baseless” cases had been registered against several Ahmadis in recent months. He said that the state had utterly failed to protect the lives and properties of minorities, particularly Ahmadis. He said he too had been threatened for seeking to protect the rights of Ahmadi citizens.

Published in The Express Tribune, August 23rd, 2013.

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Reader Comments (81)

  • AliKuliKhan
    Aug 23, 2013 - 8:51AM

    God sent his profits to this world to spread the word of love and peace. Where did we go wrong?


  • Pakistan Lover
    Aug 23, 2013 - 9:03AM

    Totally a fabricated story.


  • Certitude
    Aug 23, 2013 - 10:29AM

    @ Pakistan Lover : Mr. Lover, the problem with us lovers is that we live in denial as to the state of affairs of the state. You may have positive sentiments toward the minorities, but this is not in any way whatsoever, representative of what the MAJORITY thinks. And God help us for we are being ruled by the representatives of the MAJORITY (Democracy that is to say).


  • Feroz
    Aug 23, 2013 - 10:45AM

    The curses of oppressed minorities can be very potent and very damaging, far more damaging than the guns carried by the oppressors. The price that will have to be paid could be beyond the nations capacity. Humanity towers over religious beliefs, says every Divine teaching.


  • Muhammad
    Aug 23, 2013 - 10:46AM

    @Pakistan Lover:
    Why do you think every news report about Ahmadis being persecuted is ‘fabricated’? And you’re not a Pakistan lover because you don’t seem to like Pakistani Ahmadis. You have to love ALL Pakistanis in order to love Pakistan.


  • Nasir
    Aug 23, 2013 - 10:46AM

    Remember law seekers, Justice delayed is Justice denied. May Allah give you the strength to see the truth and do the right.


  • skhan
    Aug 23, 2013 - 10:50AM

    A very immature story made headline! ET please!
    How many times you have highlighted the brutality of Egyptian army in your headlines? Stop being a so-called torch bearer of human rights than!!!!


  • Ahmed
    Aug 23, 2013 - 10:53AM

    God did not send “profits”.

    Does anyone even know the other side of the story. We have the secular side of it here. Lets first look at the conservative one and then talk.


  • Sodomite
    Aug 23, 2013 - 11:05AM

    Had Hitler not killed the Jews of Europe but instead made use of Jewish Physics in the 1930s, Germany could have prevailed in the Second World War. Similar mindset is pervasive in Pakistan today. Countries that practice ethnicity or religious based politics eventually are consumed by their own fire of hatred.


  • ignorantways
    Aug 23, 2013 - 11:29AM


    kindly consult with oxford dictionary for correct spelling of Prophets as soon as possible. Regards


  • T R Khan
    Aug 23, 2013 - 11:34AM

    Ahmadies are being treated as early Muslims were treated in Mecca. Are we following the teachings of the Rahmat-lil-Alameen (saw)?


    Aug 23, 2013 - 12:07PM

    This act is same on humanity :(


  • sohail khan
    Aug 23, 2013 - 12:15PM

    Deen mein koi jabar nahi hai. Musalman ko sub mazhab ke maan ne walo se acha salook karna chahiye. First preference to love and peace, otherwise if non-muslims prefer to wage war against muslims, then as a last resot muslim can fight for self defence.


  • AliKuliKhan
    Aug 23, 2013 - 12:36PM

    Mr. Ignorantways – i stand corrected. Hopefully you got my drift.


  • Islamabadian
    Aug 23, 2013 - 12:38PM

    I work for a multinational and we have got many Ahmedis as colleagues. We as Muslims respect them and treat them nicely. I don’t see any hatred here.


  • sane
    Aug 23, 2013 - 12:49PM

    @Pakistan Lover:
    Why do u think that this is fabricated?Don’t u remember the lahore incident in the Ahmadi mosques?Was that also fabricated?????
    I guess u don’t know but many people,doing business etc in different areas,like this guy have been killed just because they were ahmadi!!People just come and shoot them!no one damn cares about these people that feel threatened 24/7 in their HOMELAND just because of their sects….and its not just ahmadis,very much same happens with shias etc…
    We all know that this kind of stupid sectarianism exists in this country!!!Recommend

  • ProudMuslim
    Aug 23, 2013 - 12:55PM

    Its totally sort of propaganda against Muslims of Pakistan….I can give proof…that they are living in Pakistan very peacefully even they are enjoying their rights to offer their prayers in their(worship places)….if we are talking about Karachi….one can easily find their worship place in Saddar(Near Mobile Market)….and so many other places in Karachi…..they are living peacefully in our areas…..even in neighbourhood….so to me….its all propaganda….


  • Aug 23, 2013 - 1:01PM

    May be the the story is true… but i don’t think so this is the ground realty because i have two friends who belongs to Ahmadi Rg, both are my school friends they are living in our area people knows about them, no buddy have any issue…


  • @HadirKhan
    Aug 23, 2013 - 1:03PM

    I guess,just on the word “profit”


  • SM
    Aug 23, 2013 - 1:24PM

    @Pakistan Lover: and what makes you come up with this ‘totally fabricated’ opinion???


  • Mj
    Aug 23, 2013 - 1:25PM

    The poison of religious bigotry has seeped deep into every aspect of society.


  • Xnain
    Aug 23, 2013 - 1:32PM

    We know all the ahmedis living in our neighborhood but no body has every stopped them from doing anything. We also have an ahmedi prayer place in our area but no body has ever burnt. I don’t understand where of you speak ET. I mean ahmedis live fairly isolated, but not because they are afraid but because the general public avoids them.


  • Disgusted
    Aug 23, 2013 - 1:42PM

    Pakistan Lover (you must be joking!), what makes you think this story is fabricated? Is it the just treatment received by the Ahmadis currently, that convinces you this is fabricated??


  • Fareed
    Aug 23, 2013 - 2:16PM

    Anyone commenting first state whether you endorse the killing of Ahmadies because they are apostate – and – whether YOU are willing to kill an Ahmadi because your Maulana says so


  • Fahim
    Aug 23, 2013 - 2:42PM

    if you see the title ‘Ahmadis not allowed to do business in Muslim areas’ it seems either ET and Rana tanveer (author) doesn’t live in Pakistan or they are enemy of Pakistan. I know several ahmedis doing business and jobs at respectable positions. The title is generic and feel sad to see it. They think that they can make Pakistanis fool.


  • Pakistani
    Aug 23, 2013 - 3:09PM

    As per constitution of Pakistan, every Ahmadi needs to mention his/her religion BUT Mr. Imran didnt do so and now complianing about WHY he has been treated like this. NO BODY is pointing out this fact…. Second Express Tribune seems to be protecting only Ahmadis rights as ET doesnt see other Minorities and Majorities rights being exploited by Minorities…. seems like working on an agenda…

    ET the only newspaper highlighting such unrecorded news frequently….. and also promoting views against PURE ISLAMIC faith and always giving ONESIDED stories … if its not YELLOW JOURNALISM than BALANCED news be published…..


  • Rana Majid Khan
    Aug 23, 2013 - 3:11PM

    Tribune has soft corner for Ahmdis only.Why not for whats going on in kashmir and in Egypt?


  • Burhan
    Aug 23, 2013 - 3:18PM

    simply no one owns ahmadis in pakistan. rather they are afraid of thier egyptians brothers. destroying yourself. fool nation


  • Waseem
    Aug 23, 2013 - 3:25PM

    All minorities living in Pakistan must enjoy equal rights to fully participate in life. Working against any is against the philosophy of Quid-i-Azam.


  • scotchpak
    Aug 23, 2013 - 3:29PM

    For starters it’s the spelling . Some people use caps and consider it disrespectful not to. Over time language changed and what we have now is a translation of the religion as seem fit by lay people . Not too worry because as the Buddhists said to the Muslims in Sri Lanka – halal is for you enjoyment because you believe in God. But advertising halal is a religious statement only possible in an Islamic country@AliKuliKhan:


  • Insaan
    Aug 23, 2013 - 3:44PM

    Weird people.


  • aq
    Aug 23, 2013 - 3:53PM

    These trial and tribulations are not new for ahmadis. Ahmadis have survived worse conditions with patience and steadfastness with the help of Allah help and mercy. Ahmadis know that conditions will change for better in even pakistan..But the real question is for other Muslim brothers that what kind of Islam are they following. This is certainly not Islam of Muhammad SAW who showed mercy,kindnes and respect for human dignity. Ordinary muslims are hijacked by Maudoodis andother right wing so called Islamic parties. These mullahs are jahils and fasaadi. For ahmadis these difficult times help ahmadis to change for better and learn qualities of patience, steadfastness and increase in faith and love of our master. For imran who ave been wronged by these mullah and bigots I will say remain steadfast and patient and increase your connection with Allah. Allah is the provider and will arrange something better for you. Leave these opponents to Allah justice. We only trust in Allah. Thse fasadi and jahil mullahs have destroyed our beautiful country and religion of peace.


  • Aug 23, 2013 - 3:53PM

    @Pakistan Lover: bravo, You have kept the flag of denial high .


  • umar
    Aug 23, 2013 - 4:15PM

    What a sick nation this country is. Who said Pakistanis are good and nice-hearted people?..Pakistan studies should be modified to reveal the true face of this bigoted nation. Imagine people in western countries doing the same thing with muslims saying that we are not allowed to do business with Christians. This Maulvi should be tried and sent to jail.


  • Ahmed
    Aug 23, 2013 - 4:24PM

    The way our society and state treats Ahmadi’s is shameful, I recommend all Ahmadi’s to find political asylum in foreign countries where there hardworks and talents will be appreciated…we Pakistanis as a whole are not worth it…


  • Aug 23, 2013 - 4:51PM

    Not a new trend of hate. It is a business as usual from June 1974. However it is comparatively of little intensity in KPK as compared with Punjab.


  • Preshaan
    Aug 23, 2013 - 5:08PM

    Here is the other side of the story:

    When contacted, Abdul Rehman told The
    Express Tribune that he had no regrets
    about what had happened to Imran
    Ahmed. He said Ahmadis were apostates
    who deserved death. They don’t have a
    right to do business in Muslim areas,
    he said.

    Asked why Ahmed had not been allowed
    to take his belongings with him, he
    said: “It is enough that he spent five
    years here and fed his family using
    money from Muslims. We are ready to
    deal with him if he returns. It is
    better for him to forget the
    belongings he left in his shop and his


  • 3rdRockFromTheSun
    Aug 23, 2013 - 5:25PM

    “It is enough that he spent five years here and fed his family using money from Muslims. We are ready to deal with him if he returns. It is better for him to forget the belongings he left in his shop and his house.”
    See, they actually let him and his family live – after all material things can be got back, but not life. Wow, what tolerance!!


  • Hammad Mian
    Aug 23, 2013 - 5:44PM

    If Ahmedis call themselves Muslim then how come they are considered as Minority ? Generally Non-Muslims are considered as Minority.


  • Imtiaz
    Aug 23, 2013 - 6:30PM

    @Hammad Mian: unfortunately, it is not by choice, Ahmadis have been slotted into that position by the law of the land. Ahmadis consider themselves Muslims but the law does not allow them to practice their own faith with freedom, and if they violate the law then they face imprisonment. In 1974 Ahmadis were declared non-muslims by the then National Assembly and hence a ‘minority’. This is also a first in any country that the Parliament decides on someone’s faith and beliefs. May God have mercy on this country as they are treading on a dangerous path.


  • Aysha M
    Aug 23, 2013 - 7:02PM

    Incredible state initiated insanity in 1974 continues to haunt us to date, soon there will be a time when sunni factions will start making each others’ lives miserable and end up butchering one another in the Islamic republic of Pakistan

    State has no business identifying faith of its citizens, legislation against ahmedis should be repealed


  • Aysha M
    Aug 23, 2013 - 7:04PM

    Not everybody has as short memory as this.
    May 2010 carnage of some 90 Ahmedis does not establish them as free citizens of Pakistan


  • unbelievable
    Aug 23, 2013 - 7:06PM

    Great example of why the outside World is reluctant to invest in Pakistan – your intolerance and xenophobia will be you undoing.


  • Eddied
    Aug 23, 2013 - 7:21PM

    This was a very insightful article about Pakistan…it is clear that the religious bigotry against Ahmadis is still very strong and based on intolerance…in any free country they would be a respected minority…in Radical Pakistan they are “deserving of death”… If this is what the so called religious mullahs are teaching… it is obviously a very sick and twisted society that values murder over peaceful coexistence with fellow human beings…I feel sad for the people who have to live under these life threatening circumstances… just because of their religion…


  • sundeep
    Aug 23, 2013 - 7:29PM

    @skhan: What has Pakistan to do with brutality of Egypt’s army?


  • sundeep
    Aug 23, 2013 - 7:38PM

    @skhan: What has Pakistan to do with brutality of Egypt’s army?Recommend

  • umer
    Aug 23, 2013 - 8:07PM

    They will pay for what they have done to ahmed , Nobody can get away when Allah is in anger , remeber every1 , they will pay


  • sane
    Aug 23, 2013 - 8:29PM

    @Sarfaraz A. Hanfi:
    some open minded people do not have an issue..but MOST do…….


  • sane
    Aug 23, 2013 - 8:35PM

    You are talking as if no ahmadi has ever been killed in pakistan DUE to thier SECT…
    What happened in lahore in ahmadi mosques???was that a “propaganda”,too?
    A great no. of ahmadis have been shot dead being attacked in their homes or workplaces especially in punjab and sindh ……….
    YOU JUST CAN’T DENY THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • opic
    Aug 23, 2013 - 8:36PM



  • Babloo
    Aug 23, 2013 - 8:37PM

    someone wrote ..

    “I mean ahmedis live fairly isolated, but not because they are afraid but because the general public avoids them.”

    That means Ahmedis are socially boycotted, shunned and ostracized.


  • opic
    Aug 23, 2013 - 8:38PM

    right on!!!!!!


  • imi
    Aug 23, 2013 - 8:41PM

    PLEASE!!!!!GIVE THE “OTHER” SIDE OF THE STORY”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • imi
    Aug 23, 2013 - 8:43PM

    absolutely RIGHT


  • Mullah Man
    Aug 23, 2013 - 8:45PM

    @Pakistan Lover: Pakistan is fabricated – we claim it is the land of the pure but around the world it is known as the land of the mullahs and terrorists.
    According to your logic all stories relating to Uncle Osama living in Abbotabad are also fabricated , anyone who says that bigotry exists in Pakistan is also fabricating lies , anyone who claims that the terrorists who carried out the Madrid bombings or London tube bombings had connections to Pakistan are also fabricating lies. Anyone who says we had teach religious extremism in our Madrassahs is also a lier. The list is endless – the point is Mr Pakistan lover is living in disneyland and needs urgent medical help


  • imi
    Aug 23, 2013 - 8:47PM

    all sorts of news are published in ET…It’s just this one u can’t swallow..not all other newspapers have the courage to condemn acts against ahmadis because they are afraid THEY will be CONDEMNED by people like YOU……………………..


  • lostbird
    Aug 23, 2013 - 8:50PM

    @Hammad Mian:
    WELL…THEY ARE HUMANS,ARE’NT THEY??muslim or non-muslim…..


  • YA
    Aug 23, 2013 - 8:58PM

    @Umer, they are already are, and so is the entire country…..


  • Insaan
    Aug 23, 2013 - 9:02PM

    They will pay for what they have done to ahmed , Nobody can get away when Allah is in anger , remeber every1 , they will pay

    Allah also gets in anger. Muslims don’t need any police, just leave everything to Allah.


  • Insaan
    Aug 23, 2013 - 9:05PM

    @Feroz: The curses of oppressed minorities can be very p.otent and very damaging, far more damaging than the guns carried by the oppressors

    Not really, Hitler killed millions of Jews, Pakis killed millions in East Pakistan and Afghanistan.


  • Factual
    Aug 23, 2013 - 9:35PM

    Very sad to see some of the comments here labeling the story as fabricated. I can assure you even the Ahmadis seemingly at peace in your neighborhood are under constant stress due to the constant harassment meted out to them by the society in general and by the clerics in particular. I myself lived in Pakistan in a constant mode of fear as an ahmadi – there is no guarantee of life for an ahmadi nor for his family members and the worst part is that the majority of the society condones the persecution against Ahmadis. I really feel for this Ahmadi businessman who struggled and showed entrepreneurship and set up is own business after working as a laborer for three years and this is what the local business community and the cleric pays him back with? Such hardworking and job creating people are known as assets in the honest world.
    Just imagine yourself setting up a business after struggling for 3 years as a daily wage worker and then losing it all simply because of your beliefs. Instead of helping him or at least showing hum empathy it’s sad to see some of the educated lot here passing rude comments about fabrication and how 1-2 Ahmadis in their vicinity supposedly are living at peace.
    Allah will Inshallah take care of Ahmed”s financial needs as well as his safety and security.


  • Naya Pakistan
    Aug 23, 2013 - 10:14PM

    We have morphed into an intolerant sick society. Nothing Muslim or Islamic in the way we treat humans beings, who believe differently. Salafist arab influence and money has turned us into, animals like them.


  • yousufzai
    Aug 23, 2013 - 10:33PM

    This is absolutely disgusting.

    The 1974 law has to go, as a starter. And we as a people need to grow up.


  • Boycott
    Aug 23, 2013 - 11:35PM

    The world Capitals should learn from Pakistan. Throw all Pakistanis out of their countries.


  • goggi (Lahore)
    Aug 24, 2013 - 12:40AM

    Ahmadis are very united and a very good organized religious community in West Europe.

    According to the Geneva Convention (GC), people who are persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, have asylum claim.

    So how can the Ahmadis give solid proofs of their persecution to the respective countries where they apply for political asylum?

    Already in the 80s they use to present cuttings of similar news from our daily newspapers to the German police. For their lawyers and the German authorities, such news of ET is a valid proof of their persecution, whether it is true or not!


  • SRahman
    Aug 24, 2013 - 12:58AM

    The irony is not only the discriminatory treatment toward Ahmadis and other marginalized groups in Pakistan but also discouragement to discuss about it. The pathetic insensitivity of majority in general is mind boggling to the extent of insanity. Those who are ignoring or justifying the prejudice now are not realizing that eventually very few will be spared from this mind set.


  • swat-team
    Aug 24, 2013 - 2:11AM

    The simple fact Ahmadis are legally ostracized by the laws and constitution of Pakistan and nowhere else as being non- Muslims is despicable and against all Human rights legislation. How can Pakistan be a contributing member of civil society when such outdated and immoral laws are still supported by the general population and still on the books.
    It should be a simple act and gesture by a civilized society to repeal such immoral laws and move forward.


  • Raj - USA
    Aug 24, 2013 - 3:55AM

    Lahore High Court banned a popular brand of mango juice manufactured by a Ahmedi owned company. This movement was led by the educated lawyers. It was an educated and charismatic leader who introduced the clause in the constitution against Ahmedis. I no longer blame only the mullas for these hatred. In fact the uneducated mullas are being used by the influential, affluent, educated, politically connected and army brass to spread this hatred. It is similar to the talibans being used by Pakistan’s army. Even Shabaz Sharif says that PML-N and talibans share same ideology. Imran Khan is openly supportive of talibans. Yet Pakistanis talk of Modi.

    Here is the link to an earlier news in ET that details persecution of Ahmedis at all levels, even by school going children in Pakistan:

    Watch the video that is on this news item.

    Pakistanis take up the cause of muslims in India. However, out of hate for their own Pakistani muslims they never allowed the Bihari muslims stranded in Bangladesh. These muslims were citizens of Pakistan and fought for Pakistan. Pakistan abandoned several millions of them who still carve to migrate to Pakistan. Yet Pakistani muslims long to take up the cause of muslims in Myanmar who have no connection, even cultural, with Pakistan.

    Dr. Khan who was aspiring to become the President of Pakistan equated Ahmedis with traitors and said in a popular Pakistani TV talk show before live audience that in his home town of Bhopal there were no traitors and Ahmedis.

    Even Ahmedi graves are vandalized and desecrated. Islam gives so much respect for the dead but this is what Pakistani muslims do the Ahmedis.
    Here is the link to the news from ET:

    For all his faults, Altaf Hussein and MQM had been and still are more tolerant to other communities, other religions and other sects. of Islam.Recommend

  • Aysha M
    Aug 24, 2013 - 4:53AM

    First time ever seen support to cleanse constitution of this law. Most appreciated


  • Joseph
    Aug 24, 2013 - 10:39AM

    @AliKuliKhan: They arrived in pakistan.


  • Joseph
    Aug 24, 2013 - 10:44AM

    @Pakistan Lover:
    This is the huge problem of islam and muslims – DENIAL . Denial of everything that contradicts your comfortable concept of islam as a loving , peaceful and tolerant religion. In various countries all around the world muslims are persecuting and killing and forcibly converting Jews , Christians , Buddhists , Hindus and even other muslim sects that they disagree with i.e. sunnis kill shia both kill ahmedis etc. And your reaction is the typical one – bury your head and say it is all lies.


  • darbullah
    Aug 24, 2013 - 1:13PM

    A nation born out of hate starts hating itself


  • Anwar Ahmad
    Aug 24, 2013 - 2:22PM


    As per constitution of Pakistan, every
    Ahmadi needs to mention his/her

    Which clause? You certainly would want them to wear distinctive marks.

    According to Constitution every elected representative should be pious and honest person. How many do we have?

    If the constitution says black is white or wrong is right; it does not make it right or vice versa. Those laws are discriminatory targeting the freedom of religion, conscious and speech so they must be abolished.Recommend

  • vento
    Aug 24, 2013 - 6:59PM

    @goggi (Lahore):
    this all is true….u are talking as if nothing like this happens in your beloved country….


  • Raj Kafir
    Aug 24, 2013 - 7:18PM

    I salute my grand parents not to opt for Pakistan in 1947.


  • Rabia
    Aug 24, 2013 - 7:52PM

    This is a terrible shame on us. And when we move overseas and people display prejudice towards us in some way (the hijab or whatever) we make such a huge fuss.


  • Weirdity
    Aug 24, 2013 - 8:58PM

    It’s ironic that a group which energetically supported creation of a state based on religion suddenly finds itself being excluded from that religious club in the same state. Karma is a strange one. I won’t say that I don’t have sympathies for the ahmadis since not everyone in present time can be held responsible for their forefathers mistakes but this is a point worth remembering for the types who don’t know the difference between religion , culture and ethnicity.


  • ashar
    Aug 24, 2013 - 9:08PM

    @Pakistan Lover:
    Totally agreed with you. No matter how much they shout at you. You are right.


  • Talha
    Aug 25, 2013 - 9:26PM

    Wow what lofty standards of living peacefully. I can find their mosque i.e. only when they have to hide all their mosques for the fear of persecution will I consider them persecuted. If they are discriminated at the workplace school or community or shot dead in the street well that is not persecution of course.


  • Fazal Ahmad
    Aug 26, 2013 - 2:38PM

    @Pakistan Lover:
    Then you must know the truth?


  • Afreen
    Sep 18, 2013 - 4:36PM

    I am SO happy that I was not born in Pakistan, as my parents moved abroad.
    I called myself a Pakistani nevertheless, till some years ago..

    I am an Ahmadi and I have lost a lot of relatives and friends in Pakistan, who were KILLED because they dared to live in the same neighborhood as those marvelous MUSLIMS.

    But no.. there is no persecution as such. Do not take this article so seriously.


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