ILLUSTRATION: JAMAL KHURSHID
Pakistan High Commission First Secretary Zargham Raza was allegedly assaulted by unknown assailants in New Delhi, Express News reported on Monday.
Raza was on his way to a market when he was attacked, leaving him seriously injured.
The Pakistan High Commission in India lodged an official protest with Indian authorities following the attack.
Indian news channel NDTV reported that Raza was allegedly manhandled after his car was involved in an accident with a motorcycle.
The report claimed that Raza hit a two-wheeler and the pillion rider, a woman, fell down. He did not initially get out of his car, after which a hostile crowd gathered. Delhi Police then escorted him to safety.
The Pakistan High Commission's version of events, as per the NDTV report, stated that Raza was being chased by a motorcycle. After an altercation with the biker, a group of 10 to 15 people assaulted Raza and his driver.
The motorocyclist was detained by police.
"Our First Secretary and his driver both of whom sustained serious injuries have been provided medical treatment and an FIR has also been lodged," Aizaz Ahmed, Pakistan Foreign Office Spokesperson told NDTV.
Note: This is a developing story and will be updated accordingly.
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GP65,
You are spot on! islam does not legislate, people do and if they happen to be muslims then muslims of the individual countries do.
Muslim simply means that the individual believes in the God who created the Universe and everything in it and PROMISES to follow and live the life as prescribed for muslims. He shall be so judged by God the almighty one for his deeds and not promises, after death and on the ay of judgement.
The blesphamy laws of Pakistan are based on the colonial Indian laws with mendments by the ppp leadership who live no more. They are blesphamic in nature and blsphamic for the country and the humanty. Though shall not kill is equaly blesphamic, anthe capital punishment as well which both India and Pakistan exercise. The Europe Union do no longer practice this Evil practice.
Rex Minor
@sundeep:
ET has published your comments, and I can assure you that I am not a Pakistani!! I was simply explaining science about human 'Angst' which Indians have from muslim rulers who ruled them for centuries, which generates the mistrust and in consequence impacts the automatc function of the human brain. Irrational beahviour and decisions are made by such people. Your response proves the example of your 'Angst' from muslims. There is no treatment for such reactions other than that the Governments should not talk about it nor expect or hope for any improvement in relations. This is not to say that I do not wish Nawaz Sharif and the Indian Prime Minister all the bes for the try. Science is never definite nor static. Sorry, if I upset you. ..
Rex Minor
Dear Pakistanis. I you , sitting in your luxury car drive around recklessly and hurt people, you will be caught and roughed up by the people. Probably this diplomat nor his driver, didn't show the courtesy to the two people who them they managed to injure.
So, do get down from your moral high ground and your rant about India. We very well know what pakistanis and what they are known for around the world.
Yes, India is very unsafe and bad country, please send your diplomats to some other country where accidents does not happen.
@Rex Minor: It is shamefully on part of ET to publish such comments about other religion.It is common in Pakistani to criticize other religion but when someone criticize isam then they are ready to kill him even you have that shameless blasphemy law where you punish people of other religion. Before criticizing hindu god first look into you religion. What western historian says about rock that is placed in your mecca?
I know ET will not publish my comments because it is from land of pure
@nishant: Don't worry this is nothing new. Pakistanis have a habit of commenting with fake ids or stolen ids or they will pretend they are Indian
@Frantic: Secularism has nothing to do with road rage. But alas what can be expected from Pakistani
@Insaan: who told you that you should get of a car until the police arrives, this is the norm in Kansas and US, so you are wrong buddy. he being a diplomat should never entangle himself with the mob and stay in the care till the police arrives, after all the police did the right thing and arrested some people and escorted the diplomat to the hospital. Perhaps in India you are suppose to come out of a vehicle after an accident, I have no knowledge of it.
@PB: Is it necessary to be so hateful and spewing venom at Pakistan, you should have the decency to identify yourself so your own country men will know how hateful you are. By the way if Pakistani diplomatic entity leaves India, Indians will have to reciprocate, that is what you want, well ask your own government to withdraw their diplomatic mission from Pakistan and see if they will listen to you. And by the way why are you even here on these pages, why don't you write these comments in Indian papers or perhaps Indian papers don't take you guys seriously, try it any way and leave us alone.
@Mustafa: please do not put the blame squarely on people of India!! Their actions are guided by their culture, their sexist Gods that from chldhood they are required to worship, their total 'ANGST' in their DNA which they have inherited from their ancestors, who lived under the rule of muslim invaders who later became the occupiers and barring selected few, were not allowed to join the cader of Islam and more or less treating them as outcaste hindus. Many of their Temples were kept from destruction, including the one of Lakhshana which resonates the Indian mythologies and legends about their Gods ( Rama, Shiva, vishnu) with shocking erotic scenes with thir Queen mistresses, the dancing people, marriage ceremonies, village feasts, group of elephents, miltary procession and music school, all this from their mythologies and the imagination culminated in the fantasy of the brilliant granite stone Mason.
Paganism saw its end in the near and middle East as well as in Europe and Ameriacs, due to the dominance of Christianity and Islam, but in India be it Akbar or Aurangzeb, it was encouraged.
We know today and based on the study case of the USA 9/11, that the 'Angst' causes paranoia and over time impacts the so called 'Trust' neurons, thereby causing the misfunction of the automatic process in human brain. Yes sir, mistrust, successive Pakistan Governments have tried to alay the fears of the Indian nvernments and of no avail. Indians do not trust each other, or others be it Pakistan, Russia or China. The country where peoples dynamics can be measured simply y watching the scene at the main Railway station of Bombay whic handles three million hard working commuters a day, bt is not able as the ARD TV, Germany reporter states to control the hygene and the poverty of the Nation! Yes sir, the defence of the territory is symbolc of power and to keep control of the 'Angst'. It is still preferable than to creat multiple Guatanimo prisons around the world.
Rex Minor
PS, No offnce is intended, it is all academic.
ET mods: I am responding to someone who has written to me. Pls. allow. @Shahnawaz: "@gp65 Islam does not require 4 witness for rape. It requires 4 witness for adultery. "
I did not say Islam requires 4 witnesses for rape. I am a Hindu and make no claims to being knowledgeable about Islam. I said Council of Islamic Ideology says 4 witnesses are required. I attached the url that supports this factual news item.
Also thank you for the information about the logic for why 4 witnesses are required in case of adultery. I learnt something new.
Sadly though, what these mullahs can be ignored by me since I do not live in Pakistan but if this is taken into account in judging rape cases, it does impact Pakistani women EVEN if that is not what Islam actually says just as a lot of innocent people are being killed and their property destroyed by misusing man made blasphemy law. TO such people who died or had their homes burnt, it matters little that this is not what Islam asks. So my point was impact on women who are raped of such edicts - not make any comments about Islam.
@Mustafa: yes India is unsafe. It is pakistan that is safest on earth. there is no bomb blast every other day and killing of shias , ahmadis ,hindus and wiping out entire Christian neighbourhood in pakistan which has become norm of everyday life .it becomes news because it happened in India(where multinationals rush to invest because of rule of law) What happened in Delhi was an unfortunate accident that's it. Pillion rider got angry because of irresponsible attitude of driver after committing accident. Diplomat got hurt while trying to stop the fight.
@gp65 Islam does not require 4 witness for rape. It requires 4 witness for adultery. Why 4 four witness for adultery? Because Islam gives people the choice to repent. So only adultery done in public is punished, not the one done behind closed barracks. .... These Mullahs have become "Thakaydars" of Islam. They can give any Futwa they like. It does not count. So plz don't relate Islam and Mullahism in any way.
ETmods: Pls. allow response to someone who has writen to me. @Shahnawaz: "@gp65: 4 Witness for Rape was a law made by ZIA called as HUDOOD ORDINANCE. It was revoked under WOMEN PROTECTION BILL. Its no longer a law in Pakistan."
You are correct about that but the Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) has reiterated that DNA cannot be primary evidence in case of rape. The primary evidence has to be that given by 4 Muslim men. http://tribune.com.pk/story/556392/rape-cases-dna-tests-not-admissible-as-main-evidence-cii-front-page/
This is what I had referred to.
@Asif Butt:
"And here no person can dare to touch a female in public.All them rapes , they happen is stupid remote semi-lawless areas. "
Yeah you are right, Pakistanis are busy raping children in United Kingdom and grooming them and even running sex racket. Those who are in Pakistan are doing this to Hindu girls which are unreported......Check for the testimony of the asylum seekers in India.
"who am i kidding.delhi is a rape capital of the world"
it is not me et ,someone fake wroth this. wat else u can expect from them the even fake war on terror,
who am i kidding. Delhi is the rape capital of the world.
I am sure the crowd would have behaved differently if only they were aware of the fact that Pakistan is nuclear power.
Real face and inner intentions of Indian friendship about/for Pakistan......
"Note: This is a developing story and will be updated accordingly." The note says a lot. What do you expect? It seems to suggest, "Here is another chance, let us blow it as much as possible." I didn't expect this from this newspaper, which I often read.
@gp65: 4 Witness for Rape was a law made by ZIA called as HUDOOD ORDINANCE. It was revoked under WOMEN PROTECTION BILL. Its no longer a law in Pakistan.
ET Mods: This person has written something inaccurate about my post. Pls. allow rebuttal. @Curious: "@Waterbottle, gp65 etc. The Indian trolls are trying to portray the diplomat as the villian and repeatedly saying that he is bad driver, shamefully ignoring the fact that the car was being driven by his chauffer."
I did not refer to him being a bad driver. You are just making stuff up.
"ET Mods. The following comment is not by me but by someone faking my monicker. Please remove. "gp65 India is becoming unsafe."
if you are going to run people over by your car you will be beaten up even bollywood star salman khan was not spared and got under the law so did the millionaire sanjeev nanda for running over poor people sleeping on the footpath
@realist I agree completely. Let us close down each others missions in our respective countries. No trade, people to people contacts too. No Pakistani patients in India, no actors, singers either. We d be free to construct as many dams as we well please. And I hope the border becomes active again.
If I remember correctly Indian diplomats have been roughed up in Pakistan before. No big deal
@Waterbottle, gp65 etc.
The Indian trolls are trying to portray the diplomat as the villian and repeatedly saying that he is bad driver, shamefully ignoring the fact that the car was being driven by his chauffer. This incident may not have happened as being portrayed in this report, but the readers from both side would put all reasoning to shreds in order to prove the other side wrong. Straighten your facts please.
The people do not know that he was a pakistani diplomat.It was good that people does not recongnize him,otherwise he would have been killed.
@Naresh: The person at the motorcycle at the back of Raza's car was not an ordinary motorcyclist, but he was an official from Indian Intelligence Bureau.
Here we go again! De ja vu!
@Naresh: Naresh I'm sure you're the Indian Sherlock Holmes here , but whats makes you compare between the opposite stories from opposite sides ? Where did you see the common normal to make such a deduction ? (which apparently u seem to rejoice over )
@gp65: @nishant:
As always the PURE hindus trying to lamely defend their PURE HINDU-stan
Although I do value gp65 for the decency & maturity he possesses , I have to enlighten him.
I am from Pakistan , and I live in Pakistan.
And here no person can dare to touch a female in public.All them rapes , they happen is stupid remote semi-lawless areas.
As simple as that. Try to digest it.
I keep reading Indian news , its horrible what happens in India.
In fact , the more I study the current Indian society , the more appreciative I become of my Pakistan.
But no offence mates , the diplomat could have been at fault in this apparent accident.
India is becoming unsafe.
The above Article reports : *The Pakistan High Commission’s version of events, as per the NDTV report, stated that Raza was being chased by a motorcycle. . If Raza, in his car, was being chased by a motor cycle than how would Raza - OR SHALL WE SAY HIS CAR - HIT THE MOTOR CYCLE. . Or were both i.e. Raza's Car and the Motor Cycle were travelling in the Reverse Direction? . Cheers
"The report claimed that Raza hit a two-wheeler and the pillion rider, a woman, fell down. He did not initially get out of his car, after which a hostile crowd gathered. Delhi Police then escorted him to safety."
Looks like this Raza is a bad driver and he caused an accident and on top of it, was being rude.
People have no right to beat him. But that's what South Asians are known for.
He has immunity as a diplomat at government levels.
I'm 100% sure the ordinary people did not know that he was a Pakistani diplomat. Otherwise, he would have been murdered.
If a car had hit a motorbike, pretty much similar reactions would have occurred even if the car was driven by an Indian. TO make it into an Indo-PAk issue is irresponsible.
As far as those people referring to rape - first of all it was not relevant in anyway to this news item. Secondly, in India civil society, media is up in arms against the issue of sexual harassment. New laws have also been evolved. This is a problem but no one is sweeping it under the carpet and people who have tried to give 'blame the victim' type of statements have had to apologize. We have a problem, we recognize it and will fix it. In Pakistan though the laws are such that women would hesitate to even report rape. The most recent CII ruling in Pakistan is a case n the point. So if the women who have been raped do not have 4 Muslim men as witness (which would be the case 99.9% of the time), for all effective purposes rape will not be reported. When you refuse to recognize a problem, how will you solve it?
@Syed A. Mateen: There can be no Aman KI Aasha with an Islamic country where Muslims kill each other with bombs every day. Keep up the good work, you guys are doing a good job.
Author: Raza was allegedly manhandled after his car was involved in an accident with a motorcycle. .......The report claimed that Raza hit a two-wheeler and the pillion rider, a woman, fell down. He did not initially get out of his car, after which a hostile crowd gathered.
Title is kind of misleading. Raza was assaulted not because he is a Pakistani diplomat. Raza caused an accident and refuse to get out of his car. This may be a normal thing for powerful people to do in Pakistan. Outside Pakistan diplomats should behave like civilized people.
@ asif butt we r ver much ashamed and aware of our problems regarding rape,,,but just to open your eyes,do you know wat are conditions as per law in your country to lodge a fir for a rape ? just try to search and analyse the answer... and then compare your pure land to us.
@Arsie: If he was then it would get reported, unlike pakistan and oh the dna thing loll
@outerwings i thought ur govt said so and behaved with him like a diplomat,didn't he got a diplomatic immunity?
@Frantic - Tell your people to get out of our country. Who needs you people in our country anyways. Useless people from a useless country.
In first paragraph it says he was seriously injured ... Last one says exactly the opposite ... so much of Indo Pak Amman ki asha ... can imagine who wants Amman ...
This is the real picture of "Amn Ki Asha" of India.
Thanks God that Mr. Manmohan Singh is not coming to attend the oath taking ceremony of third time elected Prime Minster of Pakistan, Mian Mohammad Nawaz Sharif, otherwise, he would have felt the heat of Pakistani Media on this very serious incident.
If any one think that India will become friend of Pakistan by virtue of track-2 diplomacy, people to people contact, or by becoming trading partner of India, I think he is living in fool's paradise.
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
@nishant: Alright so Indians decided to make Pakistani diplomat feel at home by assaulting him right?
Im glad he's fine & thankful to god that he wasn't raped in the rape capital
@nishant Raymond Davis was not a diplomat einstein
whenever India and Pakistan try to resolve their differences, something bad happens. The fanatics on both sides are so lucky The peace process is so fragile.
yeah u people r rite,we should treat pakistan diplomat the same way like pakistan treats raymond davis as per vienna convention...
@frantic yeah the same "shining and rising" india should have treated the diplomat of "pure and peaceful" pakistan as they r treated in their own country where there is not even a single incident throughout the year.
Let's not blow a RTA scuffle out of proportion.No need to get mad like the Indian media does every now and then.