The writer is a columnist, a former major of the Pakistan Army and served as press secretary to Benazir Bhutto
kamran.shafi@tribune.com.pk
But first a short anecdote: a friend and his wife got back to the country after a holiday abroad a day after the election results had become known. Their daughter-in-law, twenty-ish was livid: “Aunty, we all voted, and yet Imran lost!” Her mother-in-law called the gardener, Latif, and asked who he had voted for: “Bibi, asaan tay Sher aan payiae.”
“See, child,” she said to the young lady, “everybody did not vote for Imran Khan.” “But, aunty, how is it that when everyone I know voted for him, he still did not win?” Since there is no answer to this kind of argument, that is where the matter ended.
Which now brings me to the most ludicrous, indeed absurd piece that Nafisa Rizvi wrote on this page on May 23: “Sorry kids, we got it wrong”. Might one ask the question that is the title of this piece: “What exactly didn’t you get?”
One has to quote from that piece of writing to be reminded of the extent of the arrogance and self-righteousness, and yes, absurdity that oozes out of every sentence: “As the excitement of the elections rose to a feverish pitch, I had my teenage kids convinced that Pakistanis were at their smartest when they went polling. In 1988, voters routed out (sic) the clerics and opted for secular governance. They saw through the farcical referendums ... but today, sorrowfully, I had to tell my kids that in the first election they witnessed, we got it wrong. The people of Pakistan shouted for change but voted against it rather than for it.
“If there was any doubt before, there exists none now that we are a regressive nation; voting for traditionalism, feudalism, politics of dirty money and the familiarity of corruption … perhaps, our angst and suffering have not climaxed yet; if the pain had been abysmal enough … such is the case of the people of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa (K-P) who have been severely burned by a most exacting war. If the entire nation had suffered the way the people of K-P have, the results would have gone another route. There would have been a coterie of fresh new faces sitting in the rows of parliament and the old, jaded, have-beens would be skulking in the opposition. It will now be to the contrary because as much as we would like to convince ourselves that the opposition counts for something, it doesn’t. It’s just about as annoying as a toothless gnat.
“It is true that the political vocabulary has been forever changed by the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf. The idea of corner meetings, use of social media and even heavy television advertising took the campaign off the streets … but most importantly, the issue of moral rectitude began to emerge as a pivotal axis of the dialogue, an ignominy that had not concerned us previously because we had never, in our history, fallen to such depths of depravity.”
I ask you!
The people of Pakistan who were sagacious and “smart” when they rejected the dictators Ziaul Haq and the Commando suddenly became regressive when they did not vote in enough numbers for Imran Khan’s party? They voted for “traditionalism, feudalism, politics of dirty money”, eh? Well, let us be very, very provocative and straight-off speak of Jamshed Dasti, yes the same Dasti with the fake degree who was shown the door by the Supreme Court but won his seat again in the by-election held two months later.
Jamshed Dasti is a poor man; he is no feudal; he has no dirty money; but yes, he did commit a crime by forging his BA degree to contest the 2002 elections. But, is there no one in the PTI who is accused of any wrongdoing, including forging degrees? Remember too, that this time around, Dasti won not one but two NA seats beating two big feudals: Hina Rabbani Khar’s father on NA-178 and Nawabzada Mansoor on NA-177.
Instead of introducing rancour into the election debate, particularly because this was her kids’ first election experience, perhaps Nafisa Rizvi should have advised them to try and get their leaders to emulate Jamshed Dasti, where service to his electorate is concerned. Go on, “kids” read all about this man here, and understand that the people of Pakistan are not as “regressive” as you are being led to believe.
Rizvi says if the people of the rest of the country had “suffered the way the people of K-P have, the results would have gone another route. There would have been a coterie of fresh new faces sitting in the rows of parliament and the old, jaded, have-beens would be skulking in the opposition.” What a wish to wish upon the rest of this poor country, eh, as if they haven’t had their fair share of terror? As to a “coterie of new faces”, how many “new faces” does she see in those elected on PTI tickets? Aren’t they to a man, and a woman, veterans of many a National and Provincial Assembly and political party, many of them lotas and lotees several times over? Some even lotas-in-chief?
What indeed did the “kids” and their Mummies get wrong, please? Did they really think that there would just be one election symbol on the ballot papers: that of the cricket bat with which Imran was going to phainta lagao Nawaz Sharif?
What the kids and their Mummyies (and Daddies) must understand immediately, if not sooner, is that there are many people who live in Pakistan: people named Latif too, and that to succeed in politics, you must persevere in opposition. This is a great chance for those fired up by Imran Khan to take a deeper interest in everyday politics and be a check on the excesses of the incoming governments.
Let us be positive; not sulk because “we got it wrong” Oh and by the way, whilst wildly expensive advertising was introduced for the first time in this election, corner meetings are as old as politics.
And, er, as to never having fallen to such “depths of depravity” does Ms Rizvi not recall East Pakistan?
Published in The Express Tribune, May 31st, 2013.
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"Bhutto is dead" do you still get it? So, it takes time..
Well ET didn't publish my response so let me try again. First of all, my name should be clickable now and that should put the speculation about my comprehension of angraizi to rest. I don't see how @OK reached a conclusion that "my brain" didn't understand his mighty angraizi. And in that he proved what an ugly little elitist twerp he is. Secondly, a point I have been trying to make, if ET publishes this anyway, was that education or intellect has no direct correlation with rationality and morality. A voting decision, like all conscious processes depends upon a combination of factors, and to establish which one was the 'right' decision is impossible. If anything, a sense of entitlement in the elite class colors their world view with a idea that they alone are right and hence makes them completely incapable of processing contradictory evidence. An uneducated person might process completely different data more rationally. For example voting for baradari has tangible benefits, and by definition making a decision based on tangible consequences is more rational than voting on a dream of change. What trolls like Mr. Ok prove time and time again is they are in fact so emotionally involved in their hero worship that they can't see the contradictions in their own statements. But to each his own of course. For me, at least i have the satisfaction that trolls like these have 5 years to lick their wounds, and that puts a smile on my face :P
@Mirza Excellent observation! "waiting and earning is the last thing most of the leaders have done. They have lived off other people’s money all their lives without ever working for a living or having an actual job." Isn't it the way Pakistan has survived for its 65+ years of existance since its creation-on dole from every nation of every colour & idealogy-be it USA or China?
uncle!only three things in your life?pak army,musharaf and imran khan.no need to read your columns anymore because you are so predictable:if you have run out of topics than why not try your hands at different hobbies,perhaps train/plane spotting or fishing.
Its very much clear. Educated, modern and particularly "forward looking" people gave their vote to Imran Khan. Kamran Shafi, Lateef and Bhola etc gave their vote to Nawaz Shareef.
You can take a horse to the water, but you can't force it to drink it. I am a PTI supporter and I've been reading all these articles about politics on ET and I've been trying to tell people that we need to stop creating such a divide in already divided nation. But there so many thick skulled people here that don't want to listen to what you have to say no matter what. So how about we all tone it down a little and just wait and watch. We don't need to bash anyone to prove a point. All I want is peaceful and prosperous Pakistan, and if Nawaz Sharif can give that to us thats great, but if he can't all of the PMLN supporters should just brace themselves for big tsunami of "we told you so".And I sincerely hope thats not the case because our country can't handle another 5 years of this chaos.
So you decide to write against a self-righteous and arrogant writer self-righteously and arrogantly? Can't seem to decide who is more pathetic or more elitist or for thar matter knows the "masses" better...
More emotional nagging by kamran shafi. We would like to see articles that include researched facts not bickering everytime. What a waste
@Mirza Excellent observation this.... "waiting and earning is the last thing most of the leaders have done. They have lived off other people’s money all their lives without ever working for a living or having an actual job." Isn't it the way Pakistan has survived for its 65+ years of existance since its creation-on dole from every nation of every colour & idealogy-be it USA or China?
Now PTI supporters and voters woulgd go US and european countries embassies for vsas with only a wooden (or plastic) bat in thier hands, no necessary documents as required for visa.
Hahaha !!!! it will create a whole new world of comedy.
Great piece from Kamran Shafi ...as usual
Pakistan voted for Economic Growth .... not Pepsi Burger Mummy Daddy Class ... the sooner people accept that fact ... the better it is !
Agreed ...!
Dear Mr. Shafi- what in your opinion, was the extent of rigging 1) in Pakistan 2) in Karachi?
ET mods: I am responding to someone who wrote to me. Pls. allow response. @MK: "Since this forum is in English, expecting one to be able to communicate and post/understand a comment is a fair expectation. Why did you assume that a person with better command of English is Elite, or one proud of this skill (not qualification) is Elitist???"
OF course it is a reasonable expectation that someone posting on this forum should be able to communicate in English. But @OK was dismissive of his (@Barooq's) opinion and the tone was condescendinging when he first started to talk about @Barooq's intellect and then the English/URdu divide when there was no evidence whatsoever that @Barooq lacks proficiency in English based on his comment. He was similarly dismissive of the author's 'background'.
So my comment about eliism was specific to @OK's comment. I was not making any generic comment about elitism or otherwise of someone based on proficiency in English.
@Omar Khan: "And no , its not an elitist comment. Nor would i ever consider to myself better than even you, even though i might be smarter, better looking, better at every physical activity and a better person than you. I will still treat you as an equal"
To me even this comment seems elitist. You seem to indicate that while you consider yourself superior to me in every way (without knowing anything about me), you would deign to treat me as an equal. But since you say that you did not intend for your comment to be elitist, I will take it at face value.
Essentially, the man is absolutely right (though I wouldn't really agree with his expression of ideas). People were being extremely optimistic about these elections. They were expecting miracles. The 'Insafians' (as they've begun to call themselves) began thinking of IK as Superman or maybe a wizard who possessed the power to change the taqdeer of the people overnight by the flick of the wand. They thought the opinion polls they held in their posh kitty parties were very much representative of the general mindset of the Pakistani awaam. They were just too wrong on too many levels, I'm afraid - expected too much to come out from too little. And obviously whenever you expect too much, you almost certainly are be disappointed. Classic raai ka pahaar!
@gp65:
"@OK: “@Barooq: Maybe your brain wasnt able to understand what I was saying. Maybe its an english medium/urdu medium divide. Let me explain. KS wrote “Her mother-in-law called the gardener, Latif, and asked who he had voted for: “Bibi, asaan tay Sher aan payiae.” Either his writing skills are poor (which is quite plausible given his background)” Wow what an elitist comment! Everyone is beneath you looks like because unlike you they did not go to a English medium school and do not have the same elite background as you?"
It is your assumption. He only mentioned a divide that does exist. He did not mention one being superior to other. Since this forum is in English, expecting one to be able to communicate and post/understand a comment is a fair expectation. Why did you assume that a person with better command of English is Elite, or one proud of this skill (not qualification) is Elitist???
@Mirza:
" Votes are earned after a long parliamentary services by the party. "
Question is, in absence of General Jillani how do you get into the parliament to render a LONG Parliamentary Service. You have to start somewhere, there are many cases in the world (including in Pakistan) where fresh parties did very well in the polls. PTI did quite well considering they had no General (retired or serving) to let them come in power and show their services. They got here on their own. KPK is their examination hall, lets see how they perform. We have already seen what PMLN, ANP and PPPP can do. (One can disagree with their exam results and passing score/standards).
@gp65: i studied in a place where there was no concept of an english vs urdu/native language divide. A place where people had a relatively equal chance of succeeding from a financial perspective, regardless of what medium they were taught in in their OWN country. Isnt it unfortunate that people support parties that have never made a conscious effort to provide it citizens/constituents with a platform/environment where at least they were born equal in the governments eyes?! People who support such parties are terrorists in my mind.
And no , its not an elitist comment. Nor would i ever consider to myself better than even you, even though i might be smarter, better looking, better at every physical activity and a better person than you. I will still treat you as an equal.
so good.. I loved reading this article..
@OK: Touche, Loved your Reply and Struck a Chord...Insallah it will not take another 5 years for people to ralise that Change is Required...
ET Mods : I am responding to someone who mad an unsubstantiated statement about me, yet you have filtered my response. Why so?
@John the Baptist: "@gp65: You are a good RAW agent–always know your facts!"
Well, well. So I have been promoted from a clueless H1B wannabe call center agent (as you have suggested in past posts) to a RAW agent who always knows her facts? Thank you. If I could serve my country in the manner you indicated, I would consider it an honour but sadly I am not so lucky. Also, I would imagine RAW agents would be trained to not regularly post on websites, as I do.
@OK: "@Barooq: Maybe your brain wasnt able to understand what I was saying. Maybe its an english medium/urdu medium divide. Let me explain. KS wrote “Her mother-in-law called the gardener, Latif, and asked who he had voted for: “Bibi, asaan tay Sher aan payiae.” Either his writing skills are poor (which is quite plausible given his background)"
Wow what an elitist comment! Everyone is beneath you looks like because unlike you they did not go to a English medium school and do not have the same elite background as you?
@Shahbaz Asif Tahir:
did he fear Allah (swt) when he was shagging multiple white women and committing adultery 20 years ago?
Well said, Kamran Shafi. What runs in the minds of PTI trolls these days: "We are the angels, the flawless, the mr/miss/mrs perfect, the most honest and the best of the best! There is absolutely no problem with us. Our (evergrowing) list of enemies include the feudals, the traditional politicians, the rich class (not the ones who are with us), the ECP, the caretakers, the establishment, the agencies, the immature media and now the stupid nation and the jahil poors. If you eliminate all of them, we shall clean sweep.
Dasti is the MAN! Wish Pak had more like him, leaders that truly care about their people.
Bulls eye Mr. Shafi.
PTi's supporters should take is easy. They have to equal the "efforts" of those who have been voting for last 2 decades. They have to be consistent and have a belief in democracy. In few more attempts they would become "real" stake-holders and would win.
@Anon: So what do you have to say about Nawaz Sharif engaging immature and divisive satements. This is what he said: "Punjab’s decision was wise, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa’s emotional, Sindh’s traditional"
We are called a failed state by nearly every external observer and it is obvious to me why that is when I read the comments section of various online newspapers. PMLN supporters are the worst: they actually believe that they are part of a party that can change the status of this country. We are on the way to be being a failed state and there is no doubting that. And PMLN is one of the main forces driving us towards their vision of a failed state. Whatever anyone says about PTI supporters they recognize that there is something wrong; some have the ability to convey the issues/fault lines appropriately, others not. Its time supporters of other parties took a step back and did the same.
I know the moderators are gonna kill this, but the piece made me so happy I just wanna put it on record for myself: a perfect waam-baam-thanku-maam response, if there ever was one
@Barooq: “my cook, driver, guard, gym trainer, 7 guys in my office (out of 7) who all are lower middle income, voted for pti”
Who is to say if they really voted for PTI ? :) Employees will often say what they know their naive employer wants to hear.
@Barooq: Maybe your brain wasnt able to understand what I was saying. Maybe its an english medium/urdu medium divide. Let me explain. KS wrote "Her mother-in-law called the gardener, Latif, and asked who he had voted for: “Bibi, asaan tay Sher aan payiae.” Either his writing skills are poor (which is quite plausible given his background) or he is saying that the poor/lesser well off people voted for the Sher. I just gave the example of a variety of less financially well off people which negates his argument.
I think for all those bashing Mr. Shafi for claiming that all PTI supporters are burger/mummy daddy types, they need to take a step backward. He never made that claim. I believe he knows there is lots of support for PTI across the nation and those individuals had a right to vote for whomever they preferred. But so did everyone else. He is merely decrying the fact that a specific class found the rest of Pakistan at fault (this is a euphemism, they have reacted with the worst-name calling) because they did not get their desired outcome. Being election novices they cannot come to terms with the functionings of the democratic process.
@OK "my cook, driver, guard, gym trainer, 7 guys in my office (out of 7) who all are lower middle income, voted for pti"
So you know a total of 2 poor, 1 lower middle, and 7 slightly lower middle class people ? :P And within them 3 work for you. You really know the masses sir, really. Lol :P
Worth reading it. Good reply to all self righteous and self proclaimed intellects!!
Mr Kamran Shafi, at his incisive best !
@gp65: Can I join your raw organization ? Please put in a good word for me...
I am ow officially sick of PTI trolls, who do not understand that a country exists outside their happy little domain as well. While the Op-Ed may target the PTI supports of NA250 only, it is this same (and similar) class that writes blogs on electronic media and shouts out on the social media. the people of KP have voted for peace and prosperity, so now instead of shouting out, PTI trolls should be out there formulating plans; otherwise 5 years down the road, KP will kick PTI out.
well right and rightly answered!
I voted for PML (N) , and i am 25 yrs old !!!
PTI supporters think they had the moral high-ground; an entitlement to electoral victory. In truth a vote for the Khan was a vote for the TTP. The only secular party in the country is MQM but we all know about their other issues.
Imran Khan himself provides a lot of fodder to his bashers. He is indecisive and very immature. He thinks running a nation is like captaining a cricket team. Let's face it: he was never somebody with a lot of mental prowess to begin with. His main strength is his credibility which he lost quite a lot of towards the closing stages of the election campaign. Who knows what will happen in 5 years? I think he lost his chance for good.
Brilliant piece ... summaries everything eloquently ... Khan's U-turns on everything and his lack of vision or acumen and more specifically arrogance led him to see such a shameful defeat ... Tsunami ate him up ... and party will be gone forever with Khattak as CM KPK ... who hasn't paid a single penny in Taxes, most corrupt and "Youth" with his three relatives on women reserve seats... What a CHANGE!
Yawn another rant from you know who. God I think you are even more excited about the PTI losing than even nawaz shariff. Give it a rest will you.
Can any one of the above peopke strongly opposing the views of the author please refute his claims one by one, like an educated person should do? For example, can any of you explain the presence of way too many lotas on IK's team? Problem is, we call PTI supporters trolls bcoz they dont bring up valid counter argument, actually they dont bring any counter argument. They just bash you mercilessly and use rhetoric and heavy words smelling strongly of fast food most of the time. As for the author, pls Mr Shafi, it would be helpful if you take your tone down a little? I agree with most of what you say, but pls just be bit more polite. Otherwise it will look like we do have a generation gap. We do actually. :) It just should nt be too obvious..
@Ozymandias:
If Imran Khan didn’t exist, what would Mr Shafi write about? Eh? I Ask you!!!
About Charlie and his aunt, of course!
@startrek: And Nawaz Sharif is not??? Please tell that to people who are gullible enough to believe it.
You wrote "there are many people who live in Pakistan: people named Latif too, and that to succeed in politics, you must persevere in opposition. This is a great chance for those fired up by Imran Khan to take a deeper interest in everyday politics and be a check on the excesses of the incoming governments." This is a good positive advise to IK's supporters for the sake of democracy. Votes are earned after a long parliamentary services by the party. However, waiting and earning is the last thing most of the leaders have done. They have lived off other people's money all their lives without ever working for a living or having an actual job. Even If KS would not have written this Op Ed about Rizvi's elitist attitude, most comments on her Op Ed were correctly negative. Some of us are committing the crime of telling spoiled elites to show patience and earn their votes and respect of the masses. Election results are like a mirror or a marks sheet for a student and some do not like that. Even if the EC gives a handful of seats to PTI that would not going to change anything at all. Most parties contest elections however, all but one lose and they have to accept the verdict of "poor masses" which are the majority of Pakistan.
@gp65:
You are a good RAW agent--always know your facts!
my cook, driver, guard, gym trainer, 7 guys in my office (out of 7) who all are lower middle income, voted for pti. so i guess kamran going by your logic you are wrong. this talk of the poor voting for sher and middle upper income voting for bat is insane. i have met very few people earning b/w 10-15k per month voting for pmln. obviously its an old established party so there were people who said they would vote for N but they were definitely not the majority. now if you say its the guys earning less than that voted for N. does that make sense?? a person who has nothing and feels the pain of being made to feel like an inferior human being would vote for the same party that has put them in that predicament or at least contributed to their predicament. it is obvious that there was substantial rigging that went on,at least in a few cities in punjab. am i saying pti should have swept the elections? no. however they should have many more seats in the NA if the elections were conducted fairly.
hopefully there will verifications and recounts so that people believe that there is still some accountability left in the country.
And yes just to make a point, I voted for PTI not because it was a party of my class. The party of my class has always been the PPP (with its load of Sindhi feudals and I belonging to one such family from the paternal side) or the PML-N (which has the capitalist interests as well as the landed elites in its backpocket). Also, not only I but the cook in my house, the maid in the next door, and the driver of the van in which my children go to school also voted for Imran. And we definitely do not live in NA 250, but a very far-flung area of Karachi, where the party polled 29k votes on the lower seat and 31 on the NA one...you see, there ain't that many 'mummies and kiddos' in my area...happy writing
Nafiza Rizvi needs to understand that out of 46.2 million people who voted, only 14.8 million voted for PNLN. Therefore, the people of Pakistan, did not "fail" the educated and affluent people of this country. That she does not understand how a parliamentary system works shows how disconnected she is from the political process.
Pathetic unprofessional writing.
If Imran Khan didn't exist, what would Mr Shafi write about? Eh? I Ask you!!!
sir u have caught the self-righteousness ,the arrogance and most importantly, the naivety of mummies and their johns/kates by the scruff of the neck.. and really that piece by Mrs Rizvi was one of the most immature piece of writing i had ever come across , so thank you for bursting her fantastical and blatantly delusional bubble ...
Dear Kamran,
Firstly, clearly PTI appears to be the most popular party - specially with the kind of tone you have written this article.
Just adding some piece of information, there are no mummies daddies in NA55 & NA56.. Neither in KPK, neither in Abottabad and so forth.
I hope that our analysis aren't confined to NA250 only? Oops! It was.
The article smelled nothing but personal-dislikes, cheers!
Point taken (and mostly agreed with), but this was kind of a ruthless personal attack, give the poor lady a break - she actually bothered to go out and vote in the scorching heat (I know, so did everyone else who voted, but it's a pretty big deal for sheltered upper-class types who move from their air-conditioned cars to air-conditioned homes and malls), and she's upset that her little efforts came to naught. Take it easy.
Excelant Mr Kamran.I had not for once thought of PTI taking any role for the simple reason that this party plays politics of hypocrisy and hypocrites never come on top.
Your opinions and the bias is becoming so much predictable now ! Why I am not suprised!
Mr. Shafi, In painting PTI supporters as Naive, sore losers, what you and others alike miss out constantly is that our dissapointment is at ourselves, we,who yet again went for the same curropt, inefficient and unqualified looters. Yes we are perhaps in a state of denial but when people who never went out of their drawings rooms and perhaps whose lives very not as tormented stood in lines for hours to vote for a change, we did expect a change! And then there were the common men, not so privilaged, who voted for a change, and youngsters and the older folks! By no means we are segregating the masses into elities and the poor, but into people who finally decided to risk a change and those who inpsite of the poor state of the country brought back the same ppl again! Logic fails the hopeful here!
But we are happy that PTI atleast changed the dynamics of the family and feudal politics and got common people thinking and acting!
Sir, overall a straightforward and direct OpEd as always. I beg to differ on one sentence however:
"Jamshed Dasti is a poor man; he is no feudal; he has no dirty money; but yes, he did commit a crime by forging his BA degree to contest the 2002 elections."
Is that really true that he committed a crime? He submitted his madrassa certificate as an equivalent of degree. In other words, he did not claim a degree that he did not have. What he claimed has been affirmed by the issuing organization. In 2002 HEC did not even exist so the question of establishing equivalency did not arise. Even during 2008 elections when the condition was still on the statute, It is after the fact that HEC declared that his certificate was not equivalent of a degree. So who is at fault, the EC at the time for not asking for equivalency or this man for submitting what he believed to be a legitimate certificate?
The second time he fought re-election the condition inserted by Musharraf was removed and hence there was no reason he could not contest. Even during these elections, the fact that he had supposedly lied during the 2008 election brought up to reject him by the returning officer but the appeals court after hearing his argument cleared him.
I think many people seemed to have lost the plot. While Imran Khan campaigned largely on the issues on corruption, misgovernance, national 'ghairat' and his anti-drone policy, the primary issue that apparently concerned a majority of voters in Punjab was the lack of electricity. It was not only causing misery to millions, but badly hitting their capacity to earn a basic living. These voters judged that the businessman Nawaz Sharif as the man who could best find a way to solve the Loadshedding problems. Elections can at times be about issues rather than personalities and in Punjab 2013 this appears to have been the case.
Dear sir very straightforward as always. However beware the wrath of the mummies and kids now who still believe that there was widespread dhandli in the elections.
This was good stuff............. a reality check for many. Nafisa Rizvi deserved to be put right, not torn apart, that was not very gallant of you.
idiots are everywhere, but ET decided to run the piece. what does that say about them?
Kamran Shafi, has obsessive compulsive issues. He now targets Imran Khan, after his recent rhetorical failures against the establishment. Yet let me assure you Kamran, Imran is more popular now , than even before this rigged elections. He fears none except Allah Subhana, and such individuals will tend to scare the heck out of people like you.