Hagel has been nominated as the new US Secretary of Defence, but he needs to be confirmed by the US Senate. PHOTO: FILE
While some in Pakistan have for long been crying hoarse over growing Indian subversive activities in Pakistan through Afghanistan, the latest confirmation of this came from US defence secretary nominee Senator Chuck Hagel who in a previously unreleased video suggested that India has over the years “financed problems for Pakistan on that side of the border.”
Hagel in a talk on Afghanistan at the Cameron University in Oklahoma in 2011 said that India has been using Afghanistan as a second front against Pakistan. “India has over the years financed problems for Pakistan on that side of the border, and you can carry that into many dimensions.”
The 2011 video had not been released previously, and only came to light after it was uploaded on to video sharing website by Washington Free Beacon.
Hagel was nominated by President Barack Obama in January to replace US defence secretary Leon Panetta. He is due to hear a verdict on on his confirmation by the US Senate on Tuesday.
Meanwhile, the Indian Embassy in Washington has decried Hagel’s statement. An Indian embassy spokesperson told the Washington Free Beacon that Hagel’s statement was not grounded in “reality”.
“Such comments attributed to Senator Hagel, who has been a long-standing friend of India and a prominent votary of close India-US relations, are contrary to the reality of India’s unbounded dedication to the welfare of the Afghan people,” the spokesperson said.
“India’s commitment to a peaceful, stable and prosperous Afghanistan is unwavering, and this is reflected in our significant assistance to Afghanistan in developing its economy, infrastructure and institutional capacities.”
The spokesperson, seeking to dispel the notion that India may have sponsored terrorism, added that “India’s development assistance has been deeply appreciated by the people and the Government of Afghanistan, and by our friends around the world, including the United States,” and that “We [India] do not view our engagement with Afghanistan as a zero sum game.”
“India and the United States have a shared perspective and a deep convergence of interests for ensuring peace and stability in Afghanistan,” the spokesperson added. “We will continue to work to help the Afghan people build a peaceful, prosperous, democratic and inclusive future for themselves in an environment free from terror and intimidation.”
”Our opposition to terrorism and its safe havens in our neighborhood is firm and unshakeable,” the statement added.
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@jawid: Dear Brother the poor people or common man has nothing to do in this regard they are worried about their bread only politicians and religious leaders do such things.before partion our forefathers were living together and they werenot having problem they share each others happiness and grief the partion was due to politicians.
India is the only sick country left in the world
as the saying goes..a taste of your own medicine..
as they say...a taste of your own medicine....
Unfortunately this news article sounded more like a 'press release' by Indian Embassy in Washington than a news piece quoting Hagel remarks to portray our side of the view. Since when have the people at ET started working for India's PR?
@Raj786: "suside" bomber - is that a mammal?
@mudassar: There are six Indian consulates in Afghanistan.This can be easily verified if you do a search.
This is not a surprise, India has a long history of poking her ugly nose in other's affairs. Pakistan, Nepal, Bhutan, China, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Madives, Burma, Afghanistan are all victims of Indian hegemonic and demonic designs.
The India of Gandhiji died with him. This is Bal Thackrey's India, which prides itself in discrimination and oppression of the non brahman hindus. It can not even protect their own women from being gang raped and mercilessly killed.
This is SHINING AND WHINING INDIA!!
@gozardariGgo and @Hassan, yes I know a 'white' guy is blaming India. Did I say Pak is blaming Ind in this respect.I am saying whites/ blacks/ yellows/ browns stop blaming one country for the probs of its neighbour. Whatever happens to us happens only because of us - whichever way you look at it .
I wouldn't agree with the finding's here, I am an Indian and i feel that we here are as much interested in having great relations with people of pakistan as much as they are. This seems to be more of a strategy of US to affect the relations of India and Pakistan and spoil it for much worse.
stupid india
@Anonymous:
Never heard of the Northern Alliance?
The US has distanced itself from Mr Hagel's remarks. That is the latest news from America.So what if he says that we are in Afghanistan for fomenting trouble. It won't change the fact that Afghans are our darlings. Like an Afghan cabbie once told me in the UK- You know its very easy for Afghans to get a visa to India, only thing we dont have the money to travel there. Don't worry brother a time will come when you will travel there. The rich and middle class Afghans own properties in India, hopefully the deprived once will also prosper. And by the way if you go to youtube you can see the Afghan college kids dancing in Indian college celebrations. God bless them.
@WASP
I should have spelled it out. White Anglo Saxon Protestants, there I did it.
@Genesis
Ditto. In my post I expressed similar sentiments about divide and conquer and distract and deflect strategies employed by the people that perceive us as savages and White Man's Burden.
Where are the Indian apologists in Pakistan now?
@Lala Gee:
India never had a problem with Afghans as such. Indo-Afghan relations were very good till the Soviet invasion. Actually, it was Pakistan Afghans were always suspicious of (and rightly so as we can see now). And Indians dislike the foreign conquerors's motivations. They weren't driven to violence because they were Afghans. They were motivated by religion.
Well, so what? hasn't Pakistan been giving "moral, financial and diplomatic" support to militants in India for the last 65 years? And something else I don't get. If India was providing money, why in Afghanistan? There are any number of "safer" capitals where this can be done.
@jawid:About the only sober comment on this page
@ashok: @Raj - USA: @bangash:
So, do you guys have now sincerely forgiven the descendants of Afghan invaders, who, as I know through my personal interactions with the Indians abroad, up till recently were the most hated humans by the Indian Hindus ever existed. Or, it is just a most-cost-effective-risk-free strategy of taking revenge from both Afghans and Pakistan by turning Afghan Muslims against Pakistani Muslims through manipulation, and killing 'two birds with one stone' - a well known strategy perfected by India in East Pakistan.
All the comments above show how desperate Pakistan is seeking a Charlie Wilson to take them back to the era of the Afghan-Soviet war where money and arms poured in with no accountability and the Pakistan army was firmly in the driver's seat. . Ain't gonna happen this time round. Not is Afghanistan going to start crumbling the moment the Americans leave. Just wait and watch.
Typical Americanism. It has been typical American policy - divert attention from current US drones/Minority killings and throw a statement which would result in a stand-off amongst arch-rivals. Pakistanis gladly accepted this falling for it. With no credible evidence Hagel threw a bait and many gladly accepted it. This is what westerners had done in the past - divide and rule. Wakey-wakey.
@GhostRider:
Pakistanis barely control Pakistan and still dream of "gifting" Afghanistan to someone!
Its interesting to read the comments from a lot of Indians appreciating the efforts of RAW. India just pounced to take advantage under the American shadow. Had US not been there India would never have had the guts to step into Afghanistan alone, such is the fear of Jihadist groups/Afghan nationals.
Furthermore just wait and let US get out of Afghanistan, I suggest you guys read this really well written article
http://www.pakistankakhudahafiz.com/2013/02/24/op-ed-the-2014-scenario-india%E2%80%99s-fear-factor-and-the-chaos-theory/
"India wasn’t thinking that the US was going to leave them alone on the throne, with no NATO and only the Afghans around, they would be torn to the bones before it was noon, and no one would even get the news from this remote highland of the world."
@BlackJack:
Till the next drone strike he endorses or his scheduled medical check-up....which ever comes first. But, it does make me wonder on what facts he based his statement on. Since no other US/Europe/Chinese political representative seem to think so. Positive for Pakistan is that in Hagel, Rehman Malik might find his best friend yet!
Amazing Pakistanis never trust Americans on anything..but now they will come jumping on Hagel's side..
Hagel's speech was given to tell an American amateurish audience about Af/Pak region..
Even if Hagel beleives what he said, he has not given any proof..neither has Pakistan..on the contrary India has given so many proofs about Hafiz Saeed, Dawood, Azar Mahmood etc.. and Pakistan just ignores it..
Although this is not the first time we will have a pro-Pak US denfense secretary ..there were many from Colin Powel to many others during Pak - US nexus..US can't fiddle with India like they did back 60's to 90's even then they could achieve nothing by arming Pakistan ..Pakistan still lost all the wars..
And here I thought India is taking the 1001th CUT on her body ... Well done RAW....
Welcome to the neighborhood Chuck, glad you can see how difficult it is with such a rabid neighbor like India. It also shows Pakistanis' big hearts, as this kind of neighbor would have been bombed into oblivion by any other country.
Finally truth is coming to light.
Indians have been burnt so bad by Hagel..and he's not even started yet hahaha
I was expecting this article on ET when this was published on Times of India yesterday. Irresponsible comment by an irresponsible american.
@Mard-e-Haq: these 19 hours will be before or after 90 days to end corruption
@Zalmai: I guess many readers wouldn't even know what WASP is!
@ashok: oh you are so cute....after reading your comment i feel likegifting you afghanistan on a silver plate (whiny kid)
@Saleem: "Awaiting comments from hoards of call center operators across the border in India" +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Why does Pakistan not launch a call centre...oh I see there is no market for Urdu speaking operators....
India has finance to do that. What pak will do i think we should ask world bank to finance problem for india ha ha ha?
@Raj786: Dont say that bro :) Remember how Rajiv Gandhi was assasinated!
@Razi: No need for any Indian to go for hagel's jugular it is done by USA"s current Assistant Secretary of State Robert Blake. Blake said before a congressional committee that "India is an economic linchpin for Afghanistan and will play an important role in the process of turning Afghanistan into a trade based economy from an aid based economy". So there.
He has to provide credible evidence that India has financed problems for Pakistan from Afganistan. It is just like Pakistan saying that India is behind problems in Baluchistan though no shred of evidence has been offered. As against this, Pakistan has not accepted any responsibility for Mumbai attacks inspite of extensive evidence being supplied by India.
If helping a nation tantamounts to financing problems for others. then the complete gamut of international aid and assistance should be looked at afresh.
@jawid: agreed dost.
We r expecting the same.
Did anybody notice that the statement from the Indian spokesperson has not once denied funding the 'problems' for Pakistan or that Senator (now Secretary) Hagel's statement was untrue?
@Raj786:
we also wish to see a happy and prosperous india where minorities are not burned alive and disputes are resolved peacefully
@Khanani: So you think the Shia killings in Pakistan is India's doing. Hagel is not respected by his own party that is why he is an ex Senator and is having trouble being USA's Secretary for Defense. I would not give much credence to his utterances.
Mr. Hagel is only confirming what Pakistanis have known all along. India has long used its puppet state of Afghanistan as a staging point for sending criminals into Pakistan. Most of the troubles in Baluchistan and the criminal activity in KPK can be traced to India via their lackeys in Afghanistan. Pakistan needs to fence the border with Afghanistan to prevent the incursion of these criminals.
Good luck Chuck Hagel! first your statement against Israel and now against India. Wish you all the best for your nomination.
@Raj786 Yes...we r saying the same 'INDIANS LEAVE KASHMIR, PAKISTAN IS ALWAYS SAFE' Soon india will find when US leave Afghanistan..Talibaans will rule their country...no need indians to be there...Indian investments will be zero...see urself in ur country how many seperatists movements going on...what will be the outcome....just think...Pakistan's bad era is soon to be finished...table will be turned...
Finally! some good news. After watching in frustration, India's response to repeated terror attacks by Pakistan, it is good to read that India finally decided to do something more tangible and quite a bit less expensive. After every terrorism act within India instigated by Pakistan, all India had done so far is mobilize its huge army, take it up to the border and angrily stare at Pakistan for few months and then de-mobilize and go back to the barracks. This has cost a ton of money for India and has achieved nothing.
@HRK: what do you expect then? We could not protect Akbar Bugti. May his soul rest in peace. Who put him in a locked coffin to hide the evidence? the whole world knows. Atleast Brahmdaag is alive. And we all know who is behind the bombing of the Indian Embassy!
there is a reason why ISI is breeding Afghan talibans in north warizistan to counter indian financed terrorism in its western borders.
well,thats the truth all the terorist activities are funded and spourted by RAW,CIA,MOSSAD collectively for more facts plz visit http://www.sify.com/news/us-journo-accuses-cia-raw-mossad-of-staging-terrorist-attacks-in-pak-news-international-kjzrEdbhaff.html
@mudassar: "my question to everyone in India is that the India had given Pakistan the status of MFN (Most Favorite Nation) for the trade in last decade, but does not have more than 2 consulates in Pakistan and even many of people have relatives in here, as they want to meet there family members living in India. But in Afghanistan there are more than 7 consulates and 5 of them are near Pakistan border. what are they doing ?"
The status of MFN has nothing to do with consulates. IT is something given to ALL countries who are part of WTO. Then the mutual relationship will determine how many consulates are needed.
Now coming to the 4 consulates that India has in addition to ofcourse the embassy in Kabul - Pakistan has 4 consulates in the exact same cities : Herat, Jalalabad, Kandhar and Mazar-e-Sharif. If you think Herat and Mazar-e-Sharif are near Pakistan border, then you need to learn map reading skillshttp://img.static.reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources/75860D6962C1EDF5852575CF00681D72-map.pdf
India is doing a lot of projects in Afghanistan including building roads, hospitals schools for which Indians come and go. Secondly many Afghan students study in India. India has not fought 4 wars against Afghanistan and hence travel between India and Afghanistan is not as tightly controlled as India and Pakistan. This is why India has more consulates in Afghanistan than Pakistan. SOmeone could also ask why you have 4 consulates in the exact same cities as India when you have no consulates in India whatsoever and just a High Commission in New Delhi.
We all know the truth that India always behaves like a baby girl when something happens and tells the whole world how vulnerable they are and blames Pakistan through their state controlled media. Its good that Hagel atleast has the courage to tell us Britishers and the west that who the real culprit is for this whole mess in the subcontinent.
@mudassar: Regarding Consulates, they are not just for issuing visas. There are for promoting economic interests. India has more economic interest in Afghanistan than in Pakistan. It is likely to be so as anyone can see from the MFN fiasco in Pakistan. Also consulates in Afghanistan promote India's economic interests towards the west of Afghanistan also. Who knows, one day Afghanistan could serve as a warehouse from which it can conduct trade with the countries in the west of Afghanistan. If India does not get land route to Afghanistan, bulk shipping by air to Afghanistan could become as cost effective as the land route which would be in addition to the land route from Iran. Many things should be factored to work out cost effectiveness. This would include possibilities of pilferage of goods en-route, sabotage and political stability of Pakistan. After all, India has substantial trade with Russia bypassing Pakistan.
lol. It is not that surpirsing. Pakistan is also playing these kind of games with India. The only thing which irritates me is our (Pakistan´s) indignation and self righteousness. We act as if ISI is not involved in spy games in other neighbouring countries. People sitting in ISI and RAW HQs probably laugh at the stupid moronic populations they are supposedly protecting.
The day has finally arrived when an American has the guts to say what our own politicians are knowingly, to scared to say out loud. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's time to kick out all these 'so called leaders' and call in Imran Khan!!!
American sure know how to play Pakistani mind, if they have one.
If true, I'd say Great!! Finally, RAW is doing something useful with my taxes!!
Mr Hagel for your information the people of Afghanistan in particular and the government of Afghanistan are greatfull for assistance and help provided by Indian government. Keep that mind when you speak in Kabul.
What a surprise (not)!
The enemies of Israel are enemies of India and enemies of India are enemies of Israel. Chuch Hagel is a known anti-Israeli and therefore it should be no surprise that he is also anti-India.
Those Americans, they rarely speak the truth, but when they do, you better watch out!
Only 15 comments yet ? Awaiting comments from hoards of call center operators across the border in India who have so much ample time that after spending all day on Indian news websites they can still spare free time and comment more on Pakistani news websites then Pakistanis themselves.
Well this is a known fact for the last so many years, even a decade. Every one who understands politics and India's hegemony in the region understands this fact.
This video is dated 2011 and even at that time every one in Obama administration knew of this.
It is sad that when Indian atrocities are revealed, everyone covers their eyes as they only see India as a "market" with growing working class and hence consumerism.
All look the other way when it comes to Indian interference in Afghanistan.
@Razi: Razi, LOL, the irony, no! I am just glad ET published it! And liberal are missing from ET somehow.
@Rojer: This is not courage, but seems like devilish policy to hinder normalization between two neighbors.
@Azam khan......lol...rite....cant stop laughing.....rofl....hahahah... good one mate..
This is just a conspiracy theory. he must be some umreekan mulla.
@Rojer: For sure he wont be confirmed. we cant have nominees uttering the truth. this is how it works.
Proud of RAW :-)
@stars: I agree with you. I think the time is ripe to fund all the anti pakistani and finish off Pakistan Military and ISI at one shot.
Conspiracy theory. Hagel is part of The Establishment.
They are non state actors. they are fighting for freedom and they are our strategic assets
So what ? India is giving moral support to trouble makers in Pakistan, the way Pak gives in J&K. Good Job by Indian gov . It will be better if Indian gov diverts all rivers which enter Pakistan towards water parched areas in India...
my question to everyone in India is that the India had given Pakistan the status of MFN (Most Favorite Nation) for the trade in last decade, but does not have more than 2 consulates in Pakistan and even many of people have relatives in here, as they want to meet there family members living in India. But in Afghanistan there are more than 7 consulates and 5 of them are near Pakistan border. what are they doing ? Afghanistan is not a big trading partner of India no direct borders with Afghanistan then whats the reason to be involved in there ? As you know every thing comes in the name of trade as the old EAST INDIA Company came to sub-continent ! This time just give an impact to Pakistan from western borders? Now why is India Yelling on Gwadar? If India can invest in Afghanistan then China can invest in Pakistan. I would also ask my country men that India can not do with out the help some other neighboring countries which are helping them to ship them the material required for the covered operation in Pakistan
I do not believe this only because Manmohan Singh is soft and unlikely to take such a tough stand. But if this is true and India is keeping Pakistan army engaged on the west so that it cannot creat mischief in Kashmir, I say bravo.
@Hassan: "@Stranger: We did not blame you. An American did"
This statement was in 2011. If America thought India was doing somethng wrong, it would have stopped India. That is clearly not the case. SO perhaps the good Senator maybe expressing admiration rather than blame? After all they are sending their drones too are they not?
Well let Chuck Hagel takes over his new job, he will be speaking totally different language which may not be to the liking of Pakistan. However its high time that India should start giving moral and political support to Balochis, Afghanis and now Shias/Hazaras at par with Pak support in Kashmir.
@Stranger: We did not blame you. An American did
Well done raw
Boy, the collective hunger for biased propaganda is strong amongst Pakistanis. Their bigotry against Hindus is also easy to be seen. Well, you failed against succeeding with this bigotry which brought ill repute to your country and to your religion under the patronage of the sole superpower for 65 years. I thankfully do not see it succeeding now.
Finally someone bothered to tell the truth we all needed to know.
There is a reason why pakistan has toned down its biting against India in the recent years. And that is not because of any love affair or any desire for friendship with hindus but only because its getting hit from the western front badly that it does not want to confront withIndia on the eastern front...Had it not been the case then pakistan would have continued with its aggressive biting...So I say well done India.
Well done India. Its high time now, India will have to answer kashmir with Afghanisyan and Balauchistan.
It was just a matter of time before some official came out with this. After all, the US is now looking out for its own interests and leaving the region. India will have to brace itself for hard days to come; once the US exits the region, all eyes will be on India to see whether or not it will honor the UN resolutions for a free Kashmir.
@Mullah Omar:
Right. !!. not Obama?.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........ Wah Bhai Wah.. Dil Khoosh Kar Diya.. This was the reality and finally the truth came out. I had been saying for a very Long time that HINDU REGIME is the prime cause of terrorism in South East Asia.Since its Birth , Hindu Regime got involved in all kind of terrorism. Examples of 30 long years of Tamil Tigers and their financing is no less proof of Hindu State's Terrorist activities in the region. Hindu State's terrorism in East Pakistan and continuous financing in Afghanistan of terrorists for over 40 years now must be brought into light and the Hindu Regime should be held responsible and be declared a Hindu Terrorist State. Chuk did the right thing to spoke about the truth. World must take an action about this terrorist Nation called, India.
@Raj786: Well but india can certainly finance them ......
Point is that both india and pak hav been doing these things for 65 years, its time to move on into a new era
Pakistan adopted the policy of a thousand cuts and bleeding India.Two can play the game and that is what diplomacy is all about.No permanent friends or enemies.
Well Done India if its true. The pakistan has been doing the same thing in Kashmir for decades.
Of course by financing the turnkey construction of basic infrastructure such as roads, dams, power stations, transmission lines, schools, hospitals, thousands of student visas for studies in indian professional colleges and even funding the construction of the grand building for the Afghanistan National Assembly whcih thus far has cost $2.3 bilions and there are more commitments woth $1.5 billion, India has created serious problems for Pakistan BECAUSE it is India, not USA or Pakistan which has become the most popular country among Afghans. This has been proven by many surveys by BBC and other Eupopeans since 2003.
The more India becomes popular (73% approval in last survey), the more Pakistan becomes notorious (71% negative view of Pakistan) in Afghanistan.
What has Pakistan done for Afghanistan except cheorographing the dance of death and destruction since 1974 (much before USSR invaded Afghanistan). Millions of Afghans have been killed since 1979 and toll will rise further from 2014 when proxies of Pakistan will play the same dirty game what they did in 1990s.
Google the surveys if you do not believe what I wrote above.
Please give peace a chance in Afghanistan.
Funny that Indian Embassy in Washington, DC only talked about how India values peace and prosperity in Afghanistan, and that their assistance/aid to Afghanistan is appreciated by Afghan Govt. and that India is commited for infrastructure development and that India values its contribution to Afghan development as "zero sum" .. but wait a minute... shouldn't they be commenting directly about not causing problems for Pakistan? Why all this beating by the bush and not denying directly... only a thief-mentality does that.. never give you a to the point answer... so typical of bannya nature!
Chuck Hagel does not say that India is financing terrorism in Afghanistan. It is known to everyone that India has financed economic projects in Afghanistan and Afghans are, especially the educated and moderate sections, are tilting towards India. As I had said earlier also in my comments, when the Afghans were fleeing during the Soviet invasion, the educated and enlightened moved to USA, Germany and India whereas, the indoctrinated moved to Pakistan. India financing economic activities, building hospital and Parliament, etc., have created lot of jealousy in Pakistan. India is justified in supporting and keeping some anti Pakistan elements also as India needs to protect its interests and citizens in Afghanistan. ISI sponsored terrorists have killed senior Indian diplomats, military attaches and also civilian engineers engaged in road construction works in Afghanistan. India does not have its army presence in Afghanistan. Until India sees that its citizens and economic interests are not under attack from Pakistan backed forces, it shall and should support moderate and enlightened Afghans for its own protection and also for the betterment of Afghans so that Pakistan does not spoil the economic gains that both India and Afghanistan are striving to achieve. So far China does not have a problem as ISI sponsored activities are directed against India and Afghanistan only. If China feels that its interests are threatened, it shall do the same as India is doing. US and NATO have their army, but India has to depend on local Afghanis.
The fact is that Pakistan has back-stabbed Afghans in the name of Islam and still continues to do so. It is a fact that Talibans are a force in Afghanistan and they control many areas of Afghanistan. A fool will stop analyzing at this point and not go beyond. A small armed force can control the entire population only for some time. It is a fact that over 80% of Afgnans hate talibans and violence. They have seen enough of violence and now want progress and peace. As they are not armed as the talibans are, armed terrorists who comprise less than 10% of the population are now controlling majority of the population. If you apply the same analogy to Pakistan, you would conclude that talibans and terrorists are now controlling the whole of Pakistan as even its army is not able to move out of Pindi. In fact, they are not safe even in Pindi as terrorists can conduct their operation anywhere and anytime they want. If you take this line of thinking, you can say that almost all Pakistanis support terrorists as no terrorist has ever been caught and punished and even its courts and political parties like PML-N and PTI, leave alone DPC and religious parties, all support terrorists.
@Angel of peace: Dear it ur ZIA N USA
This is a rather broad statement by Mr Hagel and if anyone makes a fuss he can follow by saying that India as been providing a lot of aid to Afghan govt and that makes the paranoid Pakistani establishment uncomfortable.
@propakistani: Leave KASHMIR save pakistan thats our MOTTO
They are no friends of Pakistan nor of any other Nation? They are defnitiv decent individuals. The fact that they are prepared to serve under the commander of the drones indicates that National interests are their top priority. The four star General Mcchrystal, was fired for his efforts to win the hearts an ninds of the Afghan people.
What India does and has done in the past is not a secret, Pakistan does not elevate its enemies to Number 1, for fun sake. Three conflicts without a peace treaty simply means the surprise next combat at any moment.
Rex Minor
@Stranger: A white guy is blaming India, not us. Everyone knows about it but no one dares speaks about it.
When Pakistanis said this, it is called conspiracy theory. When an American said this, it could derail his nomination. The Indian lobby (USINPAC) and its ilks (lying liars for India) are up in arms and threatening that this could derail "New Delhi-Washington DC" relationships. I wish it could derail both countries relationships because the Indians have no friends in this region except USA! USA! USA!
Somebody has said it aloud that the Indians despite their lies have been using Afghanistan as the "second front against Pakistan".
shame shame shame on indians this ur real face.then u shout about bombay attacks.how u can expect flowers from us
Mean shananiguns by India
@Raj786: Well who funded them to fight against Russia.
@Mullah Omar: You are wrong Chuck Hagel is a old friend of India, remember American are only friend to their ego.
this is a fact.. what is new in this statement? Dozens of Indian consulates are not issuing millions of Indian visas in Afghanistan but it is financing Khad and anti pakistan millitants to blow up markets, roads, kill unarmed civilians inside Pakistan. Now it is time to stop PAKISTAN to be defensive and counterattack. i hope now Pakistani establishment counterattacks.
if this is really true,i expect more financing from the Indian side.There is a lot India has to payback to Pakistan.We have to pay back all the love Pakistan has give to us with due interest, i support more financing.
@NItin Gandhi What he is saying we know that for a fact. We (Pakistanis) don't need any confirmation or denial. Once the clarification comes , you should watch a Bollywood flick & sleep soundly. We are not bothered anyway. Got it, BRO?
@Khanani: dear INDIAN wants to see a prosperous n happy pakistan.
We do feel for u
@Khanani,Here is comment from an Indian..and a honest one..India should and must create problem for Pakistan through Afghanistan if it is not already doing it.Why it should not???The problem which Pakistan is creating for India through insurgency in J&K,giving training and sending militant to India,providing help to terriorist like Dawood etc can be answered only when India reciprocates..
Two Nation Theory was so correct
It is fascinating to see WASP's spin orientalist tales to serve their neo-con imperialist agendas by creating rifts between the people of Asia and Africa; and the people from the former colonies still fall prey to the age old divide and conquer scheme, which allows these WASP's to sell their weapons and create wars. The more things change the more they stay the same.
The people of Asia and Africa need to take a serious look at South America and see how their left leaning leaders are limiting the role of WASP nations in their politics and economics.
Within 19 hours of taking power, Imran Khan will put an end to Indian-sponsored terrorism from across the Afghan border. Ameen. Ameen.
Dear Paki Bros , Remember One thing he is just an Nominee....
by giving these lame comments , He is only playing... the Pre election Politics...
wait for few days calrification would be coming in few days... and Non of you will be here to comment !!!!!!!!!!!!
Looks like Mr. Hagel is going to be Mr. Popular with Pakistanis now.
not sure if imran khan can do anything about this. but this is an open secret. pervez musharraf cried hoarse for many years 2005 onwards that india had consulates in afghanitan that were being used as proxies for RAW. he said this to the americans (see wikileaks for proof), said it to the indians in india, and yet no one bothered to listen.
He has also previously spoken out against the Israeli lobbies in the US govt, which led to a lot of outcry against him by the dominant Israeli supporters in the US govt. It seems like this will make things worse for him, since US has a lot of vested interest in India now that it doesn't need Pakistan to do the dirty work anymore.
As for India financing problems for Pakistan from Afghanistan, we all know that for a fact since the Bara Hamdakh Bugti episode where ISI shunned the outcries from CIA director on Indian Embassy bombings by showing him clips of Bugti meeting the RAW chief in Afghanistan and in RAW headquarters in Delhi.
We dont have suside bomber.
Chuck Hagel and John Kerry are both good friends of Pakistan.
what about USA sir ??? haven't ur drones wrecked havoc here in pakistan...???
Chuck Hagel or Chuck Norris?
Now we will see the Indian propagandists going for Hagel's jugular. Of course, if he had said something similar against Pakistan, these very same people would cite it as the most credible evidence against Pakistan. They have done exactly the same with Justice Katju when he dared to write against Narendra Modi. But then I forgot they are supposed to support the secularists only in Pakistan.
Everyone know this except madari and his puppets, they don't have courage and any policy in these matters, it's not India, us as well contributing it's part to create troubles for Pakistan. No worries in sha ALLAH let the khan come and he will deal with all these culprits...
LOL
Am waiting for comments indian bros ! :P
Well in US somebody has the courage to accept this.
Good personality.
Ind has her own problems. We dont need to 'borrow ' problems from some other country. Whatever happens wherever with whoever ,you blame India?