For every 19th century Muslim intellectual, including Sir Syed and the Allama, the outstanding challenge of the time was to understand the ascendancy of western civilisation and the apparently unstoppable decline of Muslim society. Seven centuries had passed since the end of the Golden Age, and Islamic societies everywhere were militarily feeble and intellectually sterile. Sir Syed and Iqbal courageously chose to confront this galling truth, but they arrived at dramatically different prescriptions for the rescue and reconstruction of Indian Muslims. A century later, these two national icons distinguish liberal Pakistanis from conservative ones.
For Sir Syed, the trauma of Indian Muslims after the failed 1857 uprising against the British called for a radically new interpretation of Islam. As a religious scholar and hafiz, he considered himself well-equipped for the task. Backwardness, said Sir Syed, resulted from superstitious beliefs and rejection of maaqulat (reason) in favour of blind obedience to manqulat (tradition). Desperate remedies were needed if the Muslims of India were ever to become anything other than “stableboys, cooks, servants, hewers of wood, and drawers of water”. His goal was to make Islam compatible with post-Renaissance Western humanistic and scientific ideas, and to extract the ‘pure’ belief from fossilised dogma.
It was a difficult enterprise to take on. The period after the end of Emperor Akbar’s reign had been one of unbroken anti-science and anti-rationalist conservatism. Some 200 years before Sir Syed, Sheikh Ahmed Sirhindi and other influential religious figures had issued fatwas against mathematics and the secular sciences, and demanded that the education of Muslims be limited to religious books. Initially Sir Syed was also inclined to this point of view but, following his gradual transformation during the 1850s, he rejected this view and challenged his contemporaries.
In Tahzib-ul-Akhlaq, he writes: “Yes, if the Mussulman be a true warrior and thinks his religion correct, then let him come fearlessly to the battleground and do unto Western knowledge and modern research what his forefathers did to Greek philosophy. Only then shall our religious books be of any real use. Mere parroting and praising ourselves will not do.” (“Apnay moon mian mithoo kahney say koee faida nahin”)
In his mind, the way forward was clear: Indian Muslims must learn the English language, practice the scientific method, accept that physical phenomena are explainable by physics only, and support British imperial rule against the rule of Mughals (who had by then sunk into decadence and depravity). This last piece of advice made him a target of bitter ridicule by secular nationalists such as Jamaluddin Afghani.
Sir Syed accepted the Holy Quran as divinely revealed but he frequently reminded his readers of Islam’s forgotten rationalist (Mutazilite) tradition, as in the works of Averroes. He proposed a radical reinterpretation of the Holy Quran to make it compatible with science and modernity. Among other matters this involved understanding miracles, which science cannot accept as factual. Sir Syed therefore explained the Great Flood, as well as various miracles of Jesus, to be purely allegorical and symbolic. He also interpreted Islamic laws as actually forbidding polygamy and amputation of limbs. Quite expectedly, his claims provoked a furious reaction from the ulema of the time and he was decried as a heretic.
Sir Syed’s writings are all in Urdu and, whether or not one agrees with him, his clarity in supporting modernity and science is manifest. Equally, his remedies for social reform are clear and unambiguous. On the other hand the Allama’s only serious prose is to be found in English, and he leaves key questions unanswered or ambiguous. At times, to revive Islamic civilisation, Iqbal appears to call for a return to the sword. But at other times he stresses the enhancement of khudi — a sophisticated philosophical construct roughly describable as self-esteem. This construct, however, has a plethora of interpretations. Does it belong to the physical world? Will more khudi bring more order or more anarchy?
Iqbal’s politics, routed through his soul-stirring poetry, is the real reason why he is Pakistan’s supreme icon today. In his epic poem shikwa, like Samuel Huntington, he frames the world exclusively in terms of us-versus-them and the superiority of one civilization over all others. His pan-Islamic mard-e-momin belongs to the ummah and this perfect human aspires to martyrdom: shahadat hai matloob o maqsood-e-momin. Like a falcon, the mard-e-momin is a fighter and above worldly desire: tu shaheen hai basera kar paharon kee chatanon main. These verses can be found in Pakistan Army magazines, on its recruiting banners, and are sung with great fervour.
Iqbal, unlike Sir Syed, leaves the gap between science and religion unbridged. He takes no explicit position on miracles. On the contrary, he asserts that, “Classical Physics has learned to criticise its own foundations. As a result of this criticism the kind of materialism, which it originally necessitated, is rapidly disappearing.” But no real physicist can take this statement seriously. Even with the discovery of quantum physics — which superseded and improved upon classical physics — the description of observed physical phenomena requires nothing beyond material causes. In the battle for Pakistan’s soul, Sir Syed’s rational approach ultimately lost out and the Allama’s call on emotive reasoning won. Iqbal said what people wanted to hear — and his genius lay in crafting it with beautifully chosen words. Unfortunately, his prescriptions for reconstructing society cannot help us in digging ourselves out of a hole.
Published in The Express Tribune, February 9th, 2013.
COMMENTS (202)
Comparison is wrong in itself. Iqbal should be compared with Abul Kalam Azad or Azad can be compared with sir syed. And I think Azad had much better vision from both of them. History has proven this. Muslims could have been much better in United India than in 3 halves (Pakistan, India and Bangladesh).
@Abdul Malik Mujahid
I would have no problems with so called Madrasahs, if they could produce more men and/or women who see things the way you do. I am both sad and worried that your post so far has only 3 recommendations, including mine.
Hats off! Beautifully written!
I don't think the problem is with either Iqbal or Sir Syed. Both grew up in different environments, there is almost a century's gape between them. Both did what needed be done at that particular time. Sir Syed thought we cannot be liberated so he wanted more rights and better life for Muslims while living under the British crown. Iqbal witnessed the possibility of liberation, but noted that people have submitted to Sir Syed's Idea, which at that time, had gone old. So he composed poems to create courage in people, poems that can filter the fear out of nation. Iqbal's job was to get the nation ready for war, hence the war-like poetry. Also at no point did Iqbal asked Muslims to forgo Sir Syed's main idea of education, he just wanted them to get ready for a fight too.
The Problem is with us, what happens is that we stick to an ideology until a genius comes and pushes us forward, so we move from point A to point B, but as soon as the genius is gone we stop moving and stay at point B, until another one comes and kicks us to point C, now we stand at that point.
We as a nation don't, constantly, move forward. The reason for this stagnation is that we have not been able to strengthen our institutes. It's the institutes like universities, court rooms, national assembly and senate that push western world forward. In Pakistan and at other places we still need that one big genius to push us ahead.
SS vs AI also raises another question. Poetry vs prose. One of the reason west is more progressive in science and technology as well as philosophy and literature is that they communicate their ideas in prose which is more easily understood by masses. In contrast poetry is very difficult to understand, is more abstract and subjective. I wonder how many people understood Iqbal poetry and his message in his times and even now. If you can convey your imaginative ideas in prose (such as science fiction, fantasy), it leads to many inventions and scientific progress. As Carl Sagan said "A sufficiently advanced nation is indistinguishable from majic". The eastern languages including urdu/persian are very rich in poetry but very poor in prose as compared to west.
Ignorance is bliss! If ignorance is bliss why not whole nation is happy!
@Rana Usman: This is the same irony Dr.Hoodbhoy is pointing to. blind following is recepie for collapse of society. Dr.Hoodbhoy has crednetials of tremendous quality in the field of science. He went to MIT which is considered world's best science school. He had worked with Dr. Abdusalam who won the Noble prize for his work. Its just that Pakistani society doesn't give the due credit to people whole talk sense. Pakistan just need rhetoric shouting people who tell them that they are going to be super power the next morning. Dr. Hoodbhoy is a scientist of calibre and he certainly has enough creditability to critise Dr.Iqbal based on his reading and research. You can disagree or agree, that's secondary. Learn to appreciate your alive people
@Abid P. Khan: I write the answer and ET censors it, I sometime wonder if the articles has als been censured?. My answer was with regard to faith. You are right about the power of faith. Let me explain, education does not mean the visit to the education institution. Madrassa level is sufficient in terms of learning the basics from the scriptures. One must however have the knowledge of the arabic language and the arabic culture to interpret the suras written in arabic language.
Humans did not evolve from animals, nor are they born as empty containers with the anatomical structure alone, but with a vibrant geist(mind+ soul) which controls and directs the brain to communicate using logic and rationality as you said with the experience over time , with the heart and the rest of the major organs. This communication takes place in both directions There must be something super human whch created this compex human machine. having established the existance of super power, we call God the creator, we attend to the scriptures which teach us the morality and ethics in life. Do we have a blind faith? our geist should tell us to believe or not to believe and those who believe are not blind nor illetrate! There cannot be any morality nor ethics without the existance of God. Voltair once said that if there was no God, we had to invent one to regulate our morals in the community.
If you have interest and time please read Kant, beside other philosophers before him. I guess Mr Iqbal came to Hedelber to study kant. Have a nice day!
Rex Minor
What has Tribune done to the posts that were submitted after 9 February? I submitted a post on 14 or 13 Feb. The the site is still open for posts on 15 Feb. Please respond.
@Rana Usman: Many empires collapsed not because people of different field started to make opinions but because the intelligent and rational ones like Dr. hoodbhoy didn't have the courage to come out.
@Rex Minor: "@Abid P. Khan: Do not over evaluate philosophy. The beginning in the Padagogy was how and why, and this give birth to the philosophy:" . Very much agreed, for understanding philosophy one has to use rationality, a method which one might have learnt with the help of pedagogue. For faith on the other hand, you can achieve greatness even without any ability to read or write. All one needs is blind faith.
Iqbal and Jinnah's both immediate grand fathers were hindus so they had a tinted view of Hindu Muslim relationship. Both's hindu relatives had bycotted them for converting to Islam.
@Mirza: Truly a useless reply. Perhaps it was that hardship which inspired Iqbal to write about khudi.
@Abid P. Khan:
Do not over evaluate philosophy. The beginning in the Padagogy was how and why, and this give birth to the philosophy:
Rex Minor
Censor the comments all you want but Sir Syed was for white collar clerks and Allama Iqbal wanted Muslim to financial perversion we see today all over the world not only in Pakistan.
@jugno: "It is not correct that philosophers do not err. A philosophy is something which is based on rational argument and logical thinking....." . Attempt at sarcasm was lost somewhere here. . "Philosophers do not err. Overboard, everyone who is not a philosopher should be given “some margin” for erring. How very generous of you.".
Author...................Sir,,,great to read your article after a long time. Respected Sir, you have raised a very pertinent question and I find the answer everyday on Pakistani websites..............Just mention Kashmir and see the reaction. the net will be flooded with comments....and mention economic issues....maybe a lost soul might react.
We should all be taught history, the way it happened. If the governments cannot be bothered, we should find text that is readable by teenagers, which will clearly and in simple language, describe the history of the times and actions of our great leaders, and, as parents, we ensure our children read through these text [in Urdu or English] so that their minds open up beyond themselves.
If anyone here can point out such texts / books, I would be more than glad to advise all those in my circle to read them if they wish to know more about our history and our leaders.
To be honest I do not know much about Sir Syed but I can read Iqbal's name in Heidelberg. I wish the Profssor writes an article on science and have it pubished on ET. There is so much to explore and discover in the cosmic world and its commnication with the earth and its inhabitants. Saudi Arabia is the largest source of cosmic energy and from the satellite on can look at the vast blackened area in the desert tarred with meteors in ancient times. Dr Houdhoboy with his knowledge of natural science could easily have discovered that the very purpose of Haj gathering was and is intended to collectively receive the cosmic energy which is oozing out in the holy Mecca. To be distributed once a year in life time and after all other obligations of the individual have been completed. Ther are many other places in the world including in Mexico, Uk and France as well as at the feet of Himalayas, but nowhere stronger than in Mecca and when more than a million believers assemble together.
Human brain understanding is as yet limited to only an average of 18 percent of its total potential and this restricts our ability to decode the Quraanic suras which has hitherto wealth of knowledge about the universe. What we do not understand fully we call them theories and what experience and see are facts but are not able to explain. The milky way on the ski line at night is one of those phenominas. Have nice dreams.
Rex Minor
@1984: You might want to see Einsteinian atomic bombs being dropped on countries. Science cannot explain everything because science mostly depends on experimentation and we cannot observe everything as human faculties are limited. Think about the world a little as well as your existence before passing such verdicts.
agree with Asif Khan and Rana Usman. Ditto
@Saz: You haven't read Iqbal seriously then, if you think that he was just a regular poet.
@Masood Khan: If you don't understand the concept of mard-e-momin, at least don't ridicule it. Taliban are not mard-e-momins because they only adopt one face of a multi-dimensional concept.
@Abid P. Khan: It is not correct that philosophers do not err. A philosophy is something which is based on rational argument and logical thinking. However lots of philosophies are based on rational argument but can still be incorrect until and unless these are PROVED by some EXPERIMENT. A rational argument which is not based on EXPERIMENTAL PROOF is a philosophy. On the other hand a rational argument proved conclusively by an experiment or observational evidence is called SCIENCE. Therefore a scientific theory or law or principle is the only true and valid statements.
Thank you Dr. Hoodbhoy for educating me on Iqbal's flawed understanding of physics. It is hard for me to accept Iqbal as a first rate philosopher, while he unabashedly issued irresponsible statements about physics. How could he have religion and politics right when his expertise in rational sciences was so weak!
@Abid P. Khan
I already knew that :)
Regards,
Generous Me.
@Zeeshan Rana: "Actually, Iqbal was a philosopher but PH is not. Therefore, I’ll give PH some margin. To err is PH." . Philosophers do not err. Overboard, everyone who is a not a philosopher should be given "some margin" for erring. How very generous of you.
Actually, Iqbal was a philosopher but PH is not. Therefore, I'll give PH some margin. To err is PH.
@John B:
dear John forget about poet allama iqbal.
learn two lessons >
one muslims supported muslim league unlike congress. to this day allama is regarded with highest self respect. muslim league was fair party that is why majority won & created pakistan.
two congress unlike muslim league was the party who saw power as fair play. that is why you can see who has more power. congress wanted to have substantial power to this day they seek substantial power. Congress not only stopped progress of india but also progress of pakistan kashmir as well.
So stop complaining allama iqbal & pakistan. but please refer to congress as the biggest losers. biggest losers don't get jammu and kashmir state.
You think if afghanistan & india have claim on durand line & jk. Pakistan will wait see let these goons have its treasure.
indians have every reason to criticize pakistan. Indians will never criticize their congress party. who never wanted united india nor share the power thru cabinet mission plan of may.
I guess its unfair to compare Sir Syed with Allama Iqbal: as Sir Syed chose science and wanted to make Islam compatible with science while Iqbal chose philosophical-poetry for showing Indian Muslims path to glory.
Accepting & Advocating science and making Islam compatible with it is totally ridiculous. Its something like making a divine thing compatible with a thing that is still under-evaluation or making a universal stuff compatible with local. Why should one make Islam compatible with science? In-fact making science compatible with Islam makes scene. Science is still evolving and in phases of improvisation. One cannot make thing compatible with thing that is under-development.
Allama Iqbal chose philosophical-poetry that deals with the glory of Muslims in past and reasons behind it, he is not a scientist. He doesn’t, unlike Sir Syed, argue to favor British Imperial Rule. He wrote about re-attaining the glory of Muslims. .
@Ashraf: Ashraf I pity you for your knowledge. No wonder you are a true product of the RUMOR FACTORY of Pakistan
Unnecassary comparison ... Both are highly respected.. Plz spend time on something more useful and productive.
As a fellow rationalist, Mr. Hoodbhoy, I struggle with this eternal dilemma - people just respond to emotions better than rationality even if you make the most logical arguments. Therefore Mr. Iqbal's (potential) win could be because he used a more effective method to put his point across - emotion-stirring poetry. I observed this during the last US presidential elections. When the republican vice presidential nominee was asked why he was ultra-conservative he mentioned the effect of an Ayn Rand novel he had read as a young boy. When I researched some more on her I found that Ayn Rand was a philosopher and rationalist however used novels as a medium to propagate her ultra-conservative perspective. Her approach was so powerful because it could move powerful men like the Republican VP nominee. If he would have won - it was a close election- her novels would have changed the world through a man. So Pakistan and Pakistanis are not different from the rest of the world, we respond to emotions and perhaps also to public policy actively trying to shove an "ideology" down our throat.
Brilliant article PH. It is tough to argue on this subject matter but you have done that very well here. Please keep up your good work whether it is appreciated or not in Pakistan.
What I learned from my history books is that, Sir Syed have done an excellent job by creating an institution like Aligarh University which provide an excellent manpower at the time of creation of Pakistan. He developed the institute which has no match at that time in muslim community. On the other hand Iqbal vision is more Philosophical and Visionary and try to change the mentality of muslims by his thought provoking and visionary poetry.
Iqbal saw the abolition of the Ottoman Empire and its disintegration and exploitation at the hands of the French and the British. Naturally his perspectives were different from Sir Syed. But I do agree that Sir Syed Ahmed Khan's ideas should be studied more closely.
just one paragraph on Iqbal? Iqbal has a lot of weak points. You haven't really read Iqbal. Your claims are low on substance. Have you even read Iqbal. The accusation that he said what people wanted is farthest from the truth. Your criticism seems to stem from your dislikeness of Iqbal.
@Indian: they feel same,as the sikhs,muslims,christians,buddhists,jews,jains and parsi feel in "hindustan".
@ Indian n other people who think of Iqbals poetry as catalyst for violence you guys need to re-read his work and develop your own understanding of it. I think Iqbal did a fabulous job with stitching up commonsense in the form of poetry. @Indian I wanted to address you about what you mentioned in your post about iqbals poetry being anti paganist. Well it is against giving in to any power other then your own will power. what your will can do nothing else can do, thts wat all his work has been about instilling a connection between you and you innerself and not running off to other for help. I dont find it anti religious but thn mayb i was one o those who really have an open mind about most of the things and I try to see things from the writers perspective and not from other peoples perspective. And to the writer of this article I think he did a good job of thinking out of the box and there were some really valid points but I believe we can never compare two human beings let alone Sir syed ahmed khan and the great Iqbal. Its our fault that we chose to forget one (like the writer implied if not explicitly stated) So we better stop contesting the merits of one to another coz they were both different people with different fate.
@kaalchakra: Dear Sir you say "Allama Iqbal was able to make the British pay" Sir ji what did the British pay? to whom? and how? Please Sir we all are waiting for your reply.
@Asarulislam Syed MD: You have said "Only the establishment of Sabeel Allah, a system of equal distribution of wealth based on the Law of God will bring enlightenment." Sir, you are an MD and surely very much educated. May I ask you as to how are you going to achieve this equal distribution of wealth and please elucidate the law of the God that will do it. The entire human race will be indebted to you for your guidance on equal distribution of wealth.
I think division of india was a mistake in one way when we see how misserable peoples living on both side of border and i think those peoples who raised there voices for one unite that time were right and as far Iqbal and Syed Ahmed of Aligarh are concern they had there opinion and thinking and we can see the result of it.
Hoodboy is an excellent scientist and excellent intellectual. Pakistan needs people like him if it has to enhance its stature in the eyes of the world. Sir Syed was the greatest Muslim reformer and statesman of the 19th Century. His Aligarh Movement was the foundation of education of the Muslims of South Asia (Aligarh College & University). He was a great diplomat; he urged that Muslims befriend with the Brits to secure their rights. He was a visionary great politician as well; he declined to join Indian National Congress and predicted that it would be Hindu party in future. He provided platform of the Muhammadan Educational Conference to Muslims to present their political problems. “Loyal Muhammadans of India”, “Cause of Indian Revolt” and his commentary on the Bible defining Islam as the closest religion to Christianity were some of his exceptional efforts to upgrade life of the Muslims of Indian sub-continent under the British rule with Hindu majority. He is the founder of Two-Nation Theory. If there was no Sir Syed, there would be no Pakistan and the Muslims of South Asia would have remained unqualified and become downcast beneath absolute Hindu domination. His support and services to the Muslims are unmatchable with subsequent philosophers or poets. This is just unfortunate that his name is vanishing in Pakistan. Iqbal is unquestionably an excellent poet and philosopher and there are several other good poets; but their services are not at par with Sir Syed. Iqbal became government’s approved symbol and; therefore, his name is alive. Muhammad Ali Chishty, Riyadh
@Go Zardari Go!!: Do you think religion is that Brittle a commodity that it will be eroded by some one's argument. Never try to compartmentalize an issue,Religion is one's soul while Science is one's action which is based on some reasoning.You know about anything Religion,science,god through education.You need to be educated to read Quran & interpret its true message. Since knowledge bounds no limit,So a legal expert like Quiad-i-azam was ableto put his point of view on "two nation theory" & creation of Pakistan. Who are we dictate one that what your job is?If he is capable,he can or he will live up with his in-capabilities,it is as simple as that!
Iqbal had a Punjab domicile. Period.
Excellent write up, sir.
Hoodbhoy is a great scientist and a great intellectual. Pakistan needs people like him to enhance its image and stature in the world.
This is absolutely ture that Sir Syed is the greatest Muslim reformer and statesman of the 19th Century. His Aligarh Movement was the foundation of education of the Muslims of South Asia (Aligarh College & University). He was a great diplomat; he urged that Muslims befriend with the Brits to secure their rights. He was a visionary great politician as well; he declined to join Indian National Congress and predicted that it would be Hindu party in future. He provided platform of the Muhammadan Educational Conference to Muslims to present their political problems. “Loyal Muhammadans of India”, “Cause of Indian Revolt” and his commentary on the Bible defining Islam as the closest religion to Christianity were some of his exceptional efforts to upgrade life of the Muslims of Indian sub-continent under the British rule with Hindu majority. He is the founder of Two-Nation Theory. If there was no Sir Syed, there would be no Pakistan and the Muslims of South Asia would have remained unqualified and become downcast beneath absolute Hindu domination. His support and services to the Muslims are unmatchable with subsequent philosophers or poets. This is just unfortunate that his name is vanishing in Pakistan. Iqbal is unquestionably an excellent poet and philosopher and there are several other good poets; but their services are not at par with Sir Syed. Iqbal became government’s approved symbol and; therefore, his name is alive. Muhammad Ali Chishty, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
@sensible: Well said. An apt reply.
@pervez hood i am still searching for any service you have rendered to pakistan, leaving universities on disputes of not paying you tons of money.
great article. it must be a source of shock for all who have blindly followed what they have heard from others and couldn't spare time for a research. this society will not be able to produce a real hero until and unless they could unchain the youth from old supermen and heroic stories.
Iqbal was a strong supporter of Ijtihad. This isn't yet taught to us.
Iqbal termed the return of Jesus back to Earth a Christian tradition adopted by Muslims. This ain't taught too.
Iqbal was good. But then again, like other reformists, Iqbal is used selectively by a certain group to meet its whims and keep intact its lobby.
Its easy to say what allready happend in the past like i can say muslims own splite cause more damage to islam and muslim than others for example when muslim spain was getting out of our hand no one came to help them back Damasus lost to Abbasied and they never wanaa help umavied and when Mughals were losing the india that time Afghan o persia never come to help us and what Nishat e sania u dreaming about we dont even agreed on language in pakistan yet???? divided in ethanicity and firqah on quran translations some time make laugh we are the most stupid on earth like late king faisal descriped us right uneducted emotionals on islam...
@Ashraf: "Do you know that Sir Syed, the so-called founder of Aligarh University was jewish?....." . Absolutely brilliant. You must be gifted with eyes of a shaheen who spots a Jew, even when hovering many miles above us earthlings.
Only a person like Dr Hoodbhoy - somebody firmly grounded in Physics , Engineering , Mathematics and cognizant with Islamic theology , Islamic history and that too in the relevant local background , could have penned something like this ... I say brilliant ....
" Iqbal , unlike Sir Syed, leaves the gap between science and religion unbridged. He takes no explicit position on miracles. On the contrary, he asserts that, “Classical Physics has learned to criticise its own foundations. As a result of this criticism the kind of materialism, which it originally necessitated, is rapidly disappearing.” But no real physicist can take this statement seriously. Even with the discovery of quantum physics — which superseded and improved upon classical physics — the description of observed physical phenomena requires nothing beyond material causes. In the battle for Pakistan’s soul, Sir Syed’s rational approach ultimately lost out and the Allama’s call on emotive reasoning won. Iqbal said what people wanted to hear — and his genius lay in crafting it with beautifully chosen words. Unfortunately, his prescriptions for reconstructing society cannot help us in digging ourselves out of a hole."
No wonder Pakistanis are so much influenced by poetry. Meaning no hard work or action. Just talk or BS day in and day out
So I assume Iqbal must have written his: Saare Jahan se Achha, Hindustan Hamara, prior to turning for a separate homeland for Muslims. This poem is sung in Indian many schools but rarely mentioned in Pakistan.