India dependent on Pakistan for trade with central Asia: Ashraf

Published: November 7, 2012
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Prime minister says Pakistan has a crucial role in India’s efforts to acquire energy from Central Asian countries. PHOTO: APP/FILE

Prime minister says Pakistan has a crucial role in India’s efforts to acquire energy from Central Asian countries. PHOTO: APP/FILE

ISLAMABAD: India’s need for energy and trade with central Asian countries is largely dependent on Pakistan, said Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf on Wednesday.

According to a media report, Ashraf was speaking during the inauguration of the International Defence Exhibition and Seminar (Ideas) in Karachi.

Ashraf said Pakistan has a crucial role in India’s efforts to acquire energy from Central Asia and peace and stability are essential for the socio-economic development of the region.

“It is a matter of satisfaction that both India and Pakistan are moving forward in the right direction through the composite dialogue framework,” Ashraf remarked.

Pakistan is a part of a 1,735-kilometre long pipeline project commonly known as Turkemistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India (TAPI) pipeline.

The prime minister also spoke about Pakistan’s foreign policies and the challenges faced by the country.

“Pakistan is confronted with complex challenges. The external and internal threats to Pakistan range from socio-economic to politico-military spectrum. We are confronted with extremism, militancy and intolerance in the society,” he said as per the media report.

The Ideas is a defence-related event held in Pakistan every two years. The first such exhibition was organised in 2000 by former president Pervez Musharraf. Since then, more than 30,000 delegates and 250 exhibitors from across the globe have become a part of it.

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Reader Comments (44)

  • GT
    Nov 7, 2012 - 3:34PM

    We may be dependent on Energy needs not trade. Even our energy crisis can be solved when our nuclear reactors are complete.

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  • chandran
    Nov 7, 2012 - 3:36PM

    everything you people decide and indian have no word to say

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  • Someone
    Nov 7, 2012 - 3:46PM

    India has no route through Central Asia other than Pakistan. This is also one of the constraints in its efforts to link up with Afghanistan. Thus, India has no other option but to act as a good neighbour to Pakistan (which is unlikely) if it wants to boost its access to Central Asia.

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  • Riaz Khan
    Nov 7, 2012 - 3:49PM

    Sir, they are already doing well without any land trade with CIS countries! This zero sum game must end.

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  • David
    Nov 7, 2012 - 3:52PM

    Very true. India’s economy is dependent on Pakistan.

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  • Usman
    Nov 7, 2012 - 3:55PM

    Dependent??? ET once again using leading terms.

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  • abc
    Nov 7, 2012 - 3:56PM

    Its being so weird that our leaders always trying to exploit the location of our beloved country to hide their bad governance and incompetency.

    Its a trite saying now. Do something so that the world must recognize your sincerity at least towards your own country.

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  • Kashan Ahmed
    Nov 7, 2012 - 4:42PM

    We have to put our own house in order first of all. India is dependent or not is not an issue. We are trying to import electricity and Petrol from India, so we are also counting on them. 65 years have gone by and both the sub continent neighbors are trying to pull other one down. Millions and Millions are starving on either side of border and still we have enough money to fuel the war….

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  • indian
    Nov 7, 2012 - 4:55PM

    india and pakistan should look to develop strong relations with each other for the prosperity of the entire region……………energy is a very important factor and its access possible only when the region is stable and peaceful…………hail india-pak peace process!!!!!!!1

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  • rajiv
    Nov 7, 2012 - 4:58PM

    PM doesn’t considers Iran a country.

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  • fff
    Nov 7, 2012 - 5:07PM

    Pakistan will have oil, LPG import from India at cheaper prices, electricity import also so who is more dependent on future??…
    I think both will be interdependent on each other in future on each other

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  • wolfie loves kulfi
    Nov 7, 2012 - 5:14PM

    **LOL the mister does not know

    India depends on pakistan for nothing

    as the Indians have already bypassed Pakistan

    by buying and renovating charbhaar port in Iran from where India handles trade into central Asia

    this port is equivalent to the Chinese buying and operating gadwar from Pakistan

    the minster needs to brush up on his intelligence reports

    before making such statements which are foolish**

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  • sabi
    Nov 7, 2012 - 5:35PM

    “India’s need for energy and trade with central Asian countries is largely dependent on Pakistan,”
    A king saw a dream and aske his minister to interpret it ,the minister told him according to this dream all your relatives will die before you one by one.This interpretation filled king’s mouth with bad taste.Another wise man was asked to interpret the dream.The wise man said,your majesty congratulation.according to this dream you wil have a longer life than all of your relatives-Same meaning but different approach changes the mood.
    Adressing a polarised domestic audiance he should have said like this
    Our economic prosperity is dependant on our mindset.Our friendly mindset toward neighbours can help convert our strategic location into great trade routs with India and central republics.

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  • Pragmatic
    Nov 7, 2012 - 5:43PM

    This the “toffee” that the leaders of Pakistan are giving their people … while they are desperately trying to get petrol, dieseal and LPG from India.

    Zardari is in Qatar asking the rulers to please supply LPG through India, while his PM is claiming that India’s energy needs require Pakistan – DF Pakis

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  • Polpot
    Nov 7, 2012 - 5:54PM

    Pls read this wise statement of the PM along with the article in todays ET: The PPP’s terrible economic performance
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Why can Pakistan not expolit the geographical advantages that India must bow to Pakistan for?

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  • G. Din
    Nov 7, 2012 - 5:54PM

    And, if you had any commonsense (no disrespect intended), you would have seen an opportunity there for everyone to benefit.

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  • Raj
    Nov 7, 2012 - 6:01PM

    @Someone:
    If you think route through Central Asia is only through Pakistan then we dont realy want it,…

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  • Jat
    Nov 7, 2012 - 6:08PM

    @Polpot: “Why can Pakistan not expolit the geographical advantages that India must bow to Pakistan for?”

    Hush. Why are you giving them such sensitive and valuable information without getting anything in return ? If common sense were to come and strike Pakistan on their head, they still wouldn’t know what to do with it ! :)

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  • Pak PM has short memory
    Nov 7, 2012 - 6:19PM

    Route to central asia lies through Kashmir . So PM should brush up his memory .

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  • Dr V. C. Bhutani
    Nov 7, 2012 - 6:20PM

    This is a graceless remark, even if accurate. The Hon’ble Prime Minister should not have said this.

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  • Zalmai
    Nov 7, 2012 - 6:44PM

    @Wolfie loves kulfie

    Afghan traders are already lining up to use Chabahar Port along with Indian and Iranian traders. It won’t be long before Afghans, Indians and the rest of the Central Asian states efficiently employ the ports in Chabahar, Iran and Turkmenistan rendering Pakistan irrelevant in this equation.

    India constructed a highway in Southwest Afghanistan linking it to the Iranian border, which gives Afghans a shorter route to the sea and it allows India to bypass Pakistan to access Central Asia. Central Asian states along with Iran and Turkey have taken initiatives to connect and integrate their economies and if Pakistan does not cooperate they will find themselves outside the Silk Road looking in.

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  • Zeux
    Nov 7, 2012 - 7:02PM

    LOL at all the butthurt indians. What he said is true and you know it too

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  • Arijit Sharma
    Nov 7, 2012 - 7:21PM

    Dr. PM, the map looks very different without Baluchistan and Gilgit Baltistan.

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  • Pir Bulleh Shah
    Nov 7, 2012 - 7:45PM

    Indians have no way but to be do Pakistan’s bidding. Pakistan must use its advantage to the fullest. That’s what India would do if it were in Pakistan’s place. Let India agree to Pakistan’s principled demands first.

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  • Singh
    Nov 7, 2012 - 7:50PM

    Oh, I did not know that Pakistan is center of universe. Every country on face of earth is depend upon Pakistan, no matter it is India or USA. Everybody prosperity is depend upon Pakistan.
    It is called “Mungery Lal ke Haseen Sapney”. Or “Seikh Chilli”

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  • Jat
    Nov 7, 2012 - 7:54PM

    @Zeux: “LOL at all the butthurt indians. What he said is true and you know it too”

    We needed someone (you), who has treated butthurt all his life, to tell us the truth. Thank you nurse.

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  • WT
    Nov 7, 2012 - 7:59PM

    @Zalmai: India has no borders with Iran. The Chabahar port is useless geostrategically, because land connections matter more. Chabahar is hardly a convenient, let alone quick, route for India.

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  • Sharma who
    Nov 7, 2012 - 8:00PM

    @Arijit Sharma: It looks even more different with no Jammu and Kashmir

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  • WRT
    Nov 7, 2012 - 8:03PM

    @Zalmai: Actually, no one really gives a hoot about Chanbahar when there’s no land connections. Tell me, how is Afghanistan connected to India? No borders, no routes, nothing. Chanbahar doesn’t mean anything geographically, a couple of US missiles during wartime will render all Iranian ports useless anyway.

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  • JSM
    Nov 7, 2012 - 8:04PM

    @Zeux:

    Yes sir. India has been surviving all these years by depending on Pakistan.

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  • yamamotoisuzakihara
    Nov 7, 2012 - 8:12PM

    well what about the sea route ???

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  • Polpot
    Nov 7, 2012 - 8:23PM

    ““Pakistan is confronted with complex challenges. The external and internal threats to Pakistan range from socio-economic to politico-military spectrum. We are confronted with extremism, militancy and intolerance in the society,””
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    intolerance? hmmmm is it fair to raise the issue of the COAS in that forum?

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  • sabi
    Nov 7, 2012 - 8:47PM

    Apart from prejudice, simple business rule is, save as many kilometers as you can to keep the prices of commodities lower.Chahbahar is a reluctant choice for India and Afghanistan and definetly not preferred one.But when, dwarfs with mindeset of eating grass,become rulers oppurtunities are lost and eating grass becomes a reality.Manifesto accomplished.It taste very bad.

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  • Zalmai
    Nov 7, 2012 - 10:31PM

    @WT and WRT

    I realize that India has no borders with Iran but that does not stop nations from trading and if Pakistan does not implement business friendly policies for regional trade and commerce, the neighboring states will entertain all alternative routes to conduct business. Life goes on with or without Pakistan in the grand scheme of things. Pakistan is not some regional hub that the world cannot do without.

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  • Bala
    Nov 7, 2012 - 11:37PM

    If Pakistanis provide transit access to central asia, India will certainly prosper more, I am sure Pakistanis will also prosper ..its a win-win , but Pakistanis do not want to be a bridge, they are a big wall ( actually badlands) as of today. We hope better sense will prevail in future for the sake of the 180 million paks.

    This does not mean India has no other optics, Iran is our gateway .. its not the best, but still we are game on!

    Pakistanis need to think – Most of their Imports, they come by land or sea??

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  • realist
    Nov 7, 2012 - 11:58PM

    @Zalmai:
    Good reply Zalmai bhai/behan.

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  • Arindom
    Nov 8, 2012 - 2:21AM

    This is from the same 65 year old Pakistani Delusional School of Foreign Strategy that says:
    — China is dependent on Pakistan to keep India in check!
    — Saudis are dependent on Pakistan to counter Iran!
    — Iran is dependent on Pakistan to counter Saudis!
    — Bangladesh is dependent on Pakistan to balance India and Burma!
    — US is dependent on Pakistan to control the Taliban and Al-Qaeda!
    — UK is dependent on Pakistan to control the extremism in their own country!
    — Russia is dependent on Pakistan to checkmate US!
    — India is dependent on Pakistan to access Central Asia!
    — Israel is dependent on Pakistan to manage the Muslim World!
    — Japan is dependent on Pakistan to establish peace in MIddle East and trade in Asia!
    — Korea is dependent on Pakistan to market it’s cars and machinery!
    — Europe is dependent on Pakistan to manage the Muslim World and access Central Asian Oil!
    — Central Asia is dependent on Pakistan for everything!
    — Sri Lanka is dependent on Pakistan to balance India
    — Gulf is dependent on Pakistan to balance Iran and Shia Power!

    And finally who are we dependent on – Nobody, but the Begging Bowl!

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  • realist
    Nov 8, 2012 - 4:13AM

    @Arindom:
    Excellent! You made my day!

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  • Mr X from Bombay
    Nov 8, 2012 - 4:18AM

    Interesting discussion. But by all practicality even if India’s reach to central Asia is not limited through Pakistan, it will certainly be a viable option. This industrial expressway will benefit both the countries. Ashraf coyly did not mention the potential benefits of this trade routes. In the end it’s all business.

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  • WRT
    Nov 8, 2012 - 2:44PM

    @Arindom: About three quarter of Indians live with a begging bowl in their hands daily. And I mean of the footpath and homeless variety.

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  • Zalmai
    Nov 8, 2012 - 8:05PM

    @WRT

    You conveniently forget that more than 200 million people in India have been pulled out of poverty in the last two decades while most Pakistanis have gone the opposite route. Living in denial, mudslinging, dismissive and infantile attitudes and a general disregard for facts are the guiding principles of a madrasa curriculum and you sir, are a fine example of this education system.

    @Realist

    Thank you.
    Zalmai means youth/young in Pashto and it is a male name.

    @Arindom

    You gave me a serious case of guffaws.

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  • Someone
    Nov 9, 2012 - 5:12AM

    @Zalmai: Perhaps looking at Pakistan’s current situation makes you gloat in delight too much but it would be good to remember that too much Pakistanophobia can be an unhealthy obsession, especially among Afghans. You say Pakistanis are living in “denial, mudslinging, dismissive and infantile attitudes ” and are going into poverty. Then, excuse me sir: if these are our characteristics, how would you define Afghanistan? I am pretty confident to say that despite all this, we are still a century ahead of you. Some self-reflection is good once in a while, no? The only person who seems to be brainwashed in a madrasa here is you.

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  • Asif
    Nov 9, 2012 - 5:17AM

    @Zalmai: You say that WRT has a madrasa mindset. If that’s the case, you have the typical Afghan stone age mindset. No offense, just going with the flow with your stereotyping :)

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  • WRT
    Nov 9, 2012 - 5:21AM

    @Zalmai: “Life goes on with or without Pakistan in the grand scheme of things. Pakistan is not some regional hub that the world cannot do without.”

    This, coming from an “Afghan”, is a case of pot calling the kettle black. We will work out our trade policies by ourself thank you. rather than trade, regional power, politics etc. Afghans would be better off worrying about other things, like moving out of Pakistan for a start, where they are just unnecessary space-occupiers. Recommend

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