'Indian leadership claims friendship but continues to harm Pakistan'
In a statement issued on Monday, Rehman said that the issue of Kashmir had been unresolved for the last 65 years and India continued to commit atrocities on the people.
He urged the Indian leadership to take concrete steps for maintaining good relations with Pakistan and avoid giving mere statements.
‘India should not stop Pakistani water’
Rehman also asked India not to stop water flow by constructing dams on Pakistani rivers. He said that this step will badly affect the agriculture sector and disrupt peace in the region.
The JUI-F chief said that under the Sindh Tas agreement, rivers including Chenab and Ravi are owned by Pakistan and that India cannot stop water from these rivers.
He said that India has established several dams on these rivers and is now busy establishing dams on the nullahs of these dams.
Rehman said India is also constructing a dam on the nullah of Chenab River, which will cause shortage of water in Pakistan.
He stated that India is producing electricity in Kashmir but the people have been deprived of it.
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@moonjely sony: "If war is the only solution, then go for it." Then what are you waiting for? Who is stopping you from doing so???? We are ready and accept your this challenge/way to resolve the issues.Come on because the ground and the horse both are ready......
@ashok:
"Muslim-League Pakistani Sunni and Shias nver accepted Ahmadiyas as Muslims so why this ranting and raving." Because Ahmadis/Qadiani/Mirzai don't consider the Last Prophet Muhammad (SAW) as the last Prophet and claim that their Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani is from the prophet's series because we being the muslims believe that Last Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is the last prophet and no any prophet shall come after him.... Hope the answer is enough for you......
@Kamal:
1948: Pakistani tribesmen stream into Kashmir with little or no resistence from the oppressed Muslim majority, and are only stopped by illegal annexation through Hindustani regular troops.
1965: Pakistani mujahideen stream into Kashmir with little or no resistence from the oppressed Muslim majority, and are only stopped when Hindustan breaches an international border and declares an unsuccessful war on Pakistan.
Thank you for proving my point - Kashmiris have very seldom offered any reistence to Pakistani military assistance. If you still have doubts though, try checking out the celebrations in Srinagar on Yawm-e-Azadi and compare it to the black flags of mourning that go up on 15th August.
Hasan
With growing climate change, mismanagement and lack of dialogue and mistrust, there's always reasons to be worried, if not paranoia, about the control of water. ET, should have given more background info on the dam that's about to be filled up.
However, the dishonourable mullah's comments are made for political propaganda consumption, and only fires up some support from some anti-India right-wing fanatics and jingoistic lunatics.
There's a good arbitration mechanism in the sound water treaties which Pak has used before.
@bharat: We need Indians like you to speak up like you did. Hate cannot take us anywhere. Extremist should be locked in a island middle of no where.
@Polpot: We don’t need your education, first you need to teach your own people that are living in slums and the poor the untouchables Hindus.
The biggest obstacle Pakistan faces is people like this man who have no qualifications or ability to do anything positive except spread hate which is easy
The moment people like Imran Khan start governing Pakistan, the better it is.
As long as people like this man have support in Pakistan, the country will continue to be regression as he will misguide the youth to take up arms.
No educated Pakistan can support this man and if you do dont blame any other nation for your woes
@Hasan,what is the population of J&K and what is the number of Indian troops there?If J&K is so willing to merge with Pakistan,it would have taken not more than few hours for pakistan to capture J&K.Come on face the reality,no Kashmiri wants to merge with Pakistan.At best they want "independence" from India. The UN resolution which many people are talking here is out of question now and that's because of Pakistan.You guys never went back to condition prior to 1948 which was a pre-condition for holding referendum.Not only that,you gave away a part of kashmir to China as if it was your private property. Now lets talk about the water as well.Indus water treaty is doing well for last 60 years but if you guys have any problem you can either go to international arbitration or can go to WAR with India.choice is your but unnecessarily giving any statement (like Maulana did here) will not do anything except fueling anti-India and anti-pakistan feeling.
@naeem khan Manhattan,KS..you have half knowledge about what was agreed on Kashmir in UN or you deliberately wants to state half truth.It was agreed that Pakistan will vacate parts of Kashmir occupied by it first ...Whether Pakistan did that??? Don't give lecture ,first do your part of the contract..
@Iron: "@ Indian Trolls Get a life and do some thing productive," ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I think widening the horizons of Pakistanis and educating them is a highly productive and worthwhile pursuit.Of course we will have occasional failures along the road.
@karma: "Indian leadership claimed friendship with Pakistan??? When?? They only spoke of normalizing relationship – not of friendship. Heck, we don’t have to be friends to be normal." Then please don't waste your time and money on this useless and non-result-oriented discussion and topic of normalcy of relationship you Indians and Indian leaders......
@Nasir: You make me recall the bad day of dismemberment of Quaid-e-Azam's Pakistan in 1971, when the father of this Maulana saheb (the late Mufti Mahmood, MNA) had dared say that thank God he had no role in the creation of the new Muslim majority country of Pakistan out of the British controlled, Hindu dominated united India called Bharat. It was really a miracle of Quaid-e-Azam leadership that he snatched Independent Pakistan from the two anti-Muslim powerful enemies of the time. In view if all this, if such unworthy is the back-ground of our present day politicians, you should not be misled by such statements which are simply aimed at self-glorification in print media and nothing else...
@Hasan, Bring it on!
Indian leadership claimed friendship with Pakistan??? When??
They only spoke of normalizing relationship - not of friendship.
Heck, we don't have to be friends to be normal.
@Farzandey,: 'Pakistan Studies' is such a genuine source of information!!
Kashmir war over with three , now water war how many? before that Baluchistan will celebrating its independence on 15th aug 2016.
the amount of indian trolls here is sickening. Go back to your stupid websites
@naeem khan Manhattan,Ks: How about your history, and not the history from Pakistani text book. Go to UN in Manhattan, since your name suggest you are already there and ask them the complete history lesson on Kashmir. I bet you will be disgusted to know how Pakistan has manipulated you guys on Kashmir affair.
This dude Maulana...... The way he talks.... He even makes his own dummy on Khabar naak sound more intelligent than himself.
@ Indian Trolls Get a life and do some thing productive, or u r just too bored in your no brainer call-center job.
@ Liberal Indians How about we send Maulana Fazlur Rehman to India and you can send Bal Thakray to PK and we will regulate them the Desi School Master way (you know what I mean).
@ThisMeansWar: so why do "you" care to comment.?
@Farzandey,:
Gurdaspur district was always the seat of Ahmadiya (Quadiani) "Muslims" and Quadian is a town in Gurdaspur which is populated mainly by Ahmadiyas.
Muslim-Leaguee Pakistani Sunni and Shias nver accepted Ahmadiyas as Muslims so why this ranting and raving.
@naeem khan Manhattan,Ks:
I am a Kashmiri and will tell you that most Pakistanis, if not all, have been irreversibly indoctrinated in the belief that India went back on its promise of a plebiscite.
It's Pakistan that altered one of the most important of the conditions under which plebiscite would be conducted, i.e. return to per-existing conditions that existed prior to the Kabayali raid. Do you even know what you guys did?
First, you adamantly refused to remove your forces from the occupied lands in J&K, which was a per-condition to the plebiscite. Demographics have changed over the past sixty five years that makes it impossible to return to the pre-existing conditions. If that were not enough, you gifted a piece of the so-called disputed land to your all-weather friend China which you will never get back from them, thus changing the conditions forever.
Ignorance and false propaganda haven't left you, have they?
@Red aRRow: Knew it, someone among the foolish will out rightly deny the existence of at least one tunnel recently uncovered at the depth of 25' in Samba, J&K, India that originates from Pakistan.
The Hindu mind and psyche could not accept the idea of a separate, independent strong muslim majority country as called Pakistan. The foreign British rulers did not want to divide the British India and wanted to keep a United India after its departure. Both the Hindus and the Britishers conspired a lot of conspiracies and hatched hidden schemes to weaken the new country and had the idea that Pakistan will not survive for more than six months.Hence detachment of Gurdaspur muslim majority district and included it in India to allow Indian forces enter Kashmir and thus Kashmir problem was created for the sole purpose to use it to undo Pakistan. So those who think that India will ever solve this issue are either living in fools' paradise or they are making fool of their people with their own special motives. This is a bitter ground reality which we as Pakistanis must accept and act accordingly.Enough is enough.
@Pak1: Looked constipated to me.
With friends like this Mulla, Pakistan needs no enemies.
our water is owers ...pakistan should cry
I think that the election is coming. Moulana just found out that india is not a friend of pakistan.
@Pakistani: @Sapan Kapoor: Go Back to TOI , Baba Ramdv is arrested. :P Sorry but the Maulana makes a better drama doll/entertainment than Baba Ramdev......
@Pakistani: Yes he was arrested and has been released. But do you have any idea why he was arrested? No, I thought so. It will take you another 1,000 years to have such a person, if lucky.
Their atrocity is going on for many time,This is never ending War! Boy.
I don't like this Maulana but he is 100% right.
History suggests that Indus valley civilization was wiped out due to flood . The excessive utilization of natural resouces of hill slopes by over population of Pakistan has resulted flood that innundated3/4th of the pak area last year . Keeping these ground realities in mind the international funding agencies are ready to provide fund for the construction of dams . It is in the interest of both the countries .In case of war on Kashmir issue there will be no need to use bomb , simply open the gate of dams .That is why moulana is out to oppose Indo-Pak friendship initiatives .
Pakistan has blocked our routes to central asia for more than 60 years. We have been very generous in giving them the water. There should be a renegotiation on this line as well: You give us our road to central asia, we will give you the water to survive. Nothing less nothing more....
The water belongs to Kashmir, and Indians have the right to protect water for Kashmir first . If Kashmir becomes a free country ,then water have to be divided in to three portions, Kashmir, India and Pakistan. Kashmirs knows very well Pakistan is for water. If war is the only solution, then go for it.
Dear Maulana Sahib,
You are part of the govt. which is dying for Indian friendship and giving them concessions. So why complain.
and you are Cinderella?
Red aRRow
India never stopped water to Pakistan, not even during Kargil conflict. Why this untrurhful carping?
i love it when this guy makes front page headline on ET. We want pakistan to think only on kashmir and kashmir alone. That serves our purpose. They should not think of other problems in their country.
The Jammu & Kashmir issue can be resolved in 5 minutes. All Pakistan has to do is to honour the instrument of accession and undo the aggression that it initiated in 1947. Once that happens, India and Pakistan can sign a peace treaty and move forward. As regards the water issue, it's the people of Jammu and Kashmir who need water and if they happen to build check dams and other such local storage capacity, there is not much that the Indian government can do. After all, these are Indian non-state actors doing a very legitimate act. They need water, it's right in front of them and they are using it. Under humanitarian laws, it is impossible for India to stop such an activity.
@Malatesh: Kashmir is not India's internal affairs or integral part, you better go back and read the history.It was your own Prime Minister Nehru who promised in the UN that there will be a plebiscite in this disputed area and let the people of Kashmir decide their fate, But it was false and in the process how many of Kashmiris been killed, maimed and raped by the Indian security services, go there and ask them. You people don't have any room to be saying anything, KASHMIR IS A DISPUTED TERRITORY AND RECOGNIZED BY UN AND THE WHOLE WORLD, GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE INTERNATIONAL MAPS OF THE INDIA,PAKISTAN AND KASHMIR. Why are you Indians so afraid of plebiscite?
"He urged the Indian leadership to take concrete steps for maintaining good relations with Pakistan and avoid giving mere statements." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dr heal thyself!
"Indian leadership claims friendship but continues to harm Pakistan' +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ True, by rapid social, economic and technological progress, India makes Pakistan appear as the retarded country cousin. I call that harming Pakistani interest.
"India is producing electricity in Kashmir but the people have been deprived of it." ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ At least Pakistanis have not been deprived of electricity, 24x7!
@mkz: "Typical JUI-F statements when they do not even understand foriegn policy" +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In Pakistan understanding foreign policy is least relevant to conducting foreign policy. Valid irrespective of the 'foreign' country involved.
@Sapan Kapoor: Go Back to TOI , Baba Ramdv is arrested. :P
Dear Mr. Diesel,
I agree.
Maulana is not worried about results of his own deeds and deeds of his followers.
Indus Water Treaty entitles India to build flow-of-water dams, India is well within its legal rights.. please go to International Ab. court for disputes. Don't lie and play with emotions
now its comedy time !!!!!
Independence Day statement as a Chairman Kashmir Committee. Nobody takes him seriously.
This is a serious threat which India has now been pursuing since some years now. India seems to have made a long term goal of bringing Pakistan to its knees through controlled water shortages and floodings which effect the whole of Pakistan. While at the same time creating a fake smoke screen of accusing Pakistan for everything from terrorism to non-existent tunnels, to city-wide attacks (all without any amount of supporting evidence) which, in comparison to the water war, are mere pin pricks.
What the policy makers in India don't seem to comprehend is that upholding the Indus Water Treaty should be paramount, if peace has to be ensured in the region. Pushing Pakistan in a corner will only hurt India's interest in the order of the same magnitured, if not more.
The Population of Pakistan in 1951 – as per the Pakistan Census Organization text – was 33,740,167. . As per the 2011 Census the Population of Pakistan in 2011 has risen to 197,361,691 . In 1951 the Per Capita Water Availability in Pakistan was about 5,000 CBM. Now it is 1,200 CBM. AS SUCH THE POPULATION OF PAKISTAN HAS GONE UP BY SIX TIMES but the Water Availability HAS BEEN REDUCED TO ONE FOURTH. . In other words in 1951 Pakistan received say 34 Million X 5,000 i.e. 170 Billion CBM of River Waters . Now Pakistani is receiving 197 Million X 1,200 CMB i.e. 236.4 Billion CBM of River Waters which equates to AN INCREASE OF THIRTY NINE PER CENT! . Cheers
Nobody takes u seriously anyway ... Mr Maolana ... You are the one who went to Americans to beg ... so that u can become PM of Pakistan ...
II India and Pakistan do not have leaders who could sell to their people ideas that might advance matters towards a solution. Both countries have to wait for the arising of better based leaders. Till then the Maulana and others shall have ample occasion to go on flogging a dead horse. Pakistan has tried everything that it could think of – diplomacy, war, infiltration, promoting insurgency, and finally terror – nothing worked, and nothing ever will. By resorting to what has been called asymmetrical warfare Pakistan has lost credibility in the eyes of the rest of the world. There is nothing that Pakistan can do which will produce results that Pakistan wants. The Maulana and others should pray for a general war involving several powers in which Pakistan and India fight on opposite sides. One of them that is member of the winning side shall take the whole of Kashmir. Concluded. V. C. Bhutani, Delhi, India, 13 Aug 2012, 1730 IST
I Maulana Fazlur Rehman has indulged in usual pontification which every Pakistani leader resorts to when he has nothing else to talk about. As far as the Indus river system waters go, India should not do anything not permitted under the Indus Waters Treaty. If Pakistan feels aggrieved by any Indian action it should take recourse to arbitration provided for under that treaty. It has done that in the past: it can do so again. Kashmir is a perennial question which Pakistani leaders keep flogging from time to time. The Maulana is doing the same. It is possible that some excesses have been committed by Indian security forces in Kashmir. Those responsible for these should be brought to book. Resolving the Kashmir question is not possible, except to confirm the LOC as the IB. Neither country can give up the area under its control. Any government that did that would cease to be in office next day. To be concluded.
And what Pakistan has been doing ever since her creation? Talking of enmity and being nothing but unfriendly. Maulana Sahab, please look into mirror before making such statements.
So whats new here , We knew it man.
"The JUI-F chief said that under the Sindh Tas agreement, rivers including Chenab and Ravi are owned by Pakistan " You do not own anything. You are allowed the use of those waters. India is allowed to have as many dams on those rivers as it wants. Pakistan has no say in that. If you don't like that, opt out!
Typical JUI-F statements when they do not even understand foriegn policy
U are right Maoulana !!! Agreeeeeeed !!!!!!!!!!!!
@Maulana saab,
First, look at your baloochistan, Ahmadis and other minority issue before commenting on Kashmir. Stop interfering india's internal affairs.
If river originates in India and flows into Pakistan then obviously India has all rights to construct dam and use water for its own purpose and remaining unused water can be released.
Pakistan's leadership claims friendship with India but continues using terrorism as an instrument of state policy to harm India. Pakistan's leadership claims friendship with India but does nothing on the Mumbai attacks. Pakistan's leadership claims friendship with India but continues to build tunnels and support infiltration in Kashmir. Pakistan's leadership claims friendship with India but continues to 'bleed India through a thousand cuts'.
dude ! you are seriously funny !
I like the pose of Maulana Sahab for this ET article. Seems like he was talking to God Almighty. Pakistan Zindabad!