Abu Hamza, also known as Sayed Zabiuddin, an Indian-born member of the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), was detained at Delhi international airport on June 21 when he arrived from the Middle East.
Indian police believe he was one of the handlers based in Karachi, who issued orders by telephone to 10 gunmen as they stormed two luxury hotels, a Jewish centre, a restaurant and a train station in Mumbai.
The November 2008 attacks, which India has blamed on Lashkar-e-Taiba, left 166 people dead and more than 300 wounded.
Home Minister P Chidambaram, speaking to reporters in the southern state of Kerala, said police interrogation of Hamza had confirmed Indian accusations that Pakistani state actors were also involved.
"The argument that non-state actors were behind the massacre is no longer valid. He has confirmed that he was in the control room (and) this has confirmed our suspicion that there was some organised effort," Chidambaram said.
"When I say, state actors, at the moment, I am not pointing my finger at any particular agency.
"But clearly there was state support or state actors' support for the 26/11 massacre," the home minister said.
Pakistan, which has firmly denied such allegations, has indicted seven people for their alleged role in the attacks. Their trial, which began in 2009, has been beset by delays.
The United States has offered a $10 million reward for information leading to the conviction of Lashkar founder Hafiz Saeed who lives in Pakistan and is accused of masterminding the Mumbai attacks.
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@ayesha_khan: It is unfair to to say this to majority Muslim population of India, but the fact remains that though every Indian Muslim is not (at all) a terrorist, but every terrorist active in India (barring a few infinitesimally small percentage of non-Muslim terrorists) seems to be an Indian Muslim. That is why when Pakistan says that 26/11 terrorists had Indian supporters, we are not surprised but saddened by it. I hope this dismal picture changes for the better because I have so many Muslim friends in India who also abhor terrorism. It is unfortunate that a few misguided Indian Muslims are spoiling the good name of the rest of exceptionally good Indian Muslims! All of us Indians (literally) revere our ex-President APJ Abdul Kalam and other great Muslims like him!
@Mr S: "So the mastermind was an Indian himself and lol look at this news"
Indian born NOT Indian. He was working for 3 years in Saudi Arabia with a Pakistani passport. It is on this basis that your COAS and PM had requested Saudi Arabia to stop deportation to India.
If he had no associations with the Pakistani agencies and was an Indian citizen on top of that, why did they try to stop his extradition?
@meh: Yes , i agree that Pakistan is suffering from terrorism most, this is bcos of their own actions only, They trained people against Indians & soviets , ultimately they are now attacking Pakistani public only. So extremism is the real enemy of Pakistan.
@mikek: The whole TTP is Indian trained and funded and provided ammunition. All the killings happening in Pakistan is all coz of this India supported TTP. Indians may be mild & meek but they are not idiots. They are fully aware that after TTP 'finish' & dismember Pakistan, they will turn towards India. So why would India help them or support them? We Indians are not as short-sighted as Pakistanis think we are. So please understand. India will never support terrorism by religious extremists or jihadis. So sleep easy, my friend!!
Is it just a coincidence or did Pakistan's problems started to deepen immediately after the Mumbai Attacks? I don't think it is. What do you think?
Severe and intense torturing is much the best,easiest,impressive and most authentic way for confession of any accusations/allegations/crimes against any one any country and Indian government definitely would use this way.Despite seeing all these conditions I am surprised that till now Pakistani leaders are still considering about India in amicably and reconciled way and are making themselves mentally ready for long-term,stable,permanent and strong friendship and business ties whereas India is still denying to resolve the Kashmir and Siachen issues on priority basis honestly and sincerely. What the shameful thought Pakistani leaders do have!!!!!!!
@Arjun:
The whole TTP is Indian trained and funded and provided ammunition. All the killings happening in Pakistan is all coz of this India supported TTP.
There is nothing of this sort of things happened in Pakistan. Since India came to Afghanistan, these things are happening. What you going to say about that.
Looks like my comments are (more often than not) 'moderated' if they are closer to the truth & criticising Pakistan's attitude forgetting that I always promote friendship with Pakistan & consider India as its only genuine friend !
@An expat Indian: There is a little thing called rule of law!
The latest news reports indicate that it was the CIA that tracked this scumbag terrorist down and helped in getting the Saudis to deport him to India. The reports also say that Pakistan tried very hard to convince the Saudis to send this terrorist to Pakistan instead of India apparently fearing that he would be spilling the beans on the involvement of Pak state-actors in the gruesome Mumbai massacre.
@India Well-wisher: except if you do not shamelessly use religion to support terrorists!! right?
@M A Z I: ya right....just like you mentoin that Taliban was created by US and ISI was not responsible #$$4$
@Qutub Ansari: So you wanted the Saudis to shelter a terrorist because he is a Muslim. What an inhuman person you are. You wanted a murderer of 170 innocents to go unpunished and because I suspect you felt he may expose the duplicity of Pakistan Government.
@blaizebob: You hit their security official in the face at Islamabad Airport. Now they hit back (literally) below your belt.
So the mastermind was an Indian himself and lol look at this news. It is clearly said that "it is believed that his handler was some one in Karachi" pppffftt
Till India acquires Drone technology and are willing to use it like the US, they should just take their lumps and drop this. Everyone knows that Pakistan will not do a thing about this matter, so why keep imploring for a resolution. India is starting to sound like Pakistan on Siachen matter.
India and Pakistan were created to solve the problems of Hindus and Muslims but for some people this seems to be wrong, Their role will be diminished if both countries have a good relation. These guys are on both sides of border, Attack on Marriott (Islamabad) and Mumbai hotel in India is proof of their presence in both countries they are Hindu pandiths and pakistani molvis. After mohammed ali jinah and mohandas Gandhi they were in power and change every policy and rule. They use religion as weapon against liberals of the society and minorities. funds are gathered on the name of religion, leaders need them as vote banks and army is their to defend them from civilian government as they offer services to army as volunteer to fight as mercenaries to go through the red tape of law. some of you may not agree but this is what is happening other countries like china and america want both of us for their defence. My message is clear we were living together before, but now its like two brothers who are living in different homes we may have conflicts but conflicts can be solved. I have been to Europe believe me they have more conflicts than us but what they have accomplished through solving those conflicts is unbelievable. you can travel by car enjoying the road trip through out the Europe. i was at a signal in rawalpindi and there was a sign board directing towards Lahore and Delhi, i said to my friend what if we go to dehli in vacations, he said you know where dehli is? i said i know if we follow gt road we will reach dehli in less than a day, he smiles and said this is not Europe this is pakistani and indian border we are crossing.
As indicated by Rehman Malik and Pakistani trolls here. Any proof against Mumbai terrorists living in Pakistan will never get punished by Pakistan.
Well this is the Indian government talking more politics. We have yet to see the respected Indian judiciary's take on this when eventually, the said information is presented before them.
@Ghaznavi: Why not say the fact, that the eye witnesses against Sarabjeet made statement to frame Sarabjeet under initimidation by ISI. Google it up in youtube.
@M A Z I: That is the worst excuse for denying your involvement. Every confession against you is under torture and every conspiracy theory against India is "fact" ??
@Faraz: "Stop being trolls here. Indian news sites have enough fodder for you to play with. Get lost and stop picking fake Muslim names"
India has 150 million Muslims. We do not have to pick 'fake Muslim names' to comment. When the issue concerns India, why shouldn't we speak and how does it constitute trolling? You were accused by some people of faking being a Pakistani in an earlier comment a couple of weeks back and you were upset. How then do you accuse people of being fake Muslim?@Walter White is breaking bad,seriously!: "RAW forced a confession and with promises of good treatment also obtained some admissions from him the same way ISI obtained the same from Sarabjeet S. of bombings in Lahore So, lets just all go back home now!
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Ah but there is a difference. Even before RAW got a chance to talk to Abu Hamza, KSA reviewied proof submitted by India and found it adequate to deport him. In case of Sarabjeet SIngh on the other hand, even a prime witness whose evidence was used to convict him later said that he was forced to give false evidence. BIG difference in the 2 cases.
@India Well-wisher: "this is the plain of america and isreal and may be of russia and india also to blame pakistan for mumbai attacks,really so sad they can’t even bear one nuclear power muslim country great "
This is not India worrying about Pakistan's internal problems. This is India speaking up about a terror attack IN India that killed 166 Indians and which originated in Pakistan.
@Mohammad Ali gaad: "this is the plain of america and isreal and may be of russia and india also to blame pakistan for mumbai attacks,really so sad they can’t even bear one nuclear power muslim country great "
You do realize that it is a fellow Muslim country Saudi Arabia who deported Abu Hamza and that is why this story is being published? Now with Saudi Arbia also helping India on this issue you can no longer spin it as a conspiracy against Muslims. It is a simple issue of the wolrd collaborating to address terror export from Pakistan.
crying indians all over the wall! You guys really enjoy commenting on our news forums, don't you?
bas.. taak mai lagay raho hamari..
and don't teach us what terrorism is like. We as pakistani nation, are the biggest victim of terrorism in the world. And it mostly comes from outside, whether in the name of islam or against islam. ISI has some corrupt officials we know, and so does RAW. What proof you have that your very own RAW does not carry out terrorist activities against innocents. Since day one, you guys are taught to blame ISI, it is so common in India that for once you cannot think otherwise. Your media is always crying against Pakistan. And you guy's being most active on Dawn and ET is a proof that how interested you are in our matters. Stop blaming. Go and fix your country. We have more serious issues to deal with than to carry out attacks in india.
@Umair: "Just like Bramdad confirms indian role? "
Bhahmdad Bugti said that he is frustrated enough with Pakistan to accept help from any source - even India. He has not claimed that India has actually helped him. Big difference there.
@mystreeman: "So pressure is building up on Pakistan, on whose behest? No prizes for the right answer"
Not sure if the right answer is India or USA in your books. Either way, it does not matter who is building the pressure up. What matters is whether it is legitimate or not.
unlike Pakistan who makes blanket allegations of India supporting Baloch unrest wthout providing a single name or any evidence, India now has 3 people associated with 26/11 - who have confessed to LeT involvement and 2 of them have spoken about state support as well. These are Ajmal Qasan who was obviously a gunman, David Headley akak Daood Gilani who did the survey of various sites and has now testified under oath in Pakistani courts and now Abu Hamza who was deported by Saudi Arabia to India because they confirmed the proof provided byIndia (voice sample of person co-ordinating attack) with Abu Hamza and the voice matched.
Pakistani courts can claim that the evidence is not enough to convict anyone but that speaks to their own credibility and not to the credibility of the evidence supplied by India. After all for much less evidence they were able to convict Shakil Afrid for 33 years for "association" with Lashkar-e-Islam.
@M A Z I: "If you are gonna do bit more torture to the accused he will accept more fabricated lies."
Hello. This person was deported by your good friend Saudi Arabia because they found the evidence substansive. Basically it was voice samples that Indian government had of people who were co-ordinating the attack. The voice was matched by Saudi authorities with this person who was working there since 3 years and because they found proof by India acceptable they deported him. Don't discredit all evidence by simply saying it was on account of torture. The decision to deport was taken by Saudi based on evidence BEFORE any Indian authorities spoke to him.
@Arjun: Do noy play innocent. They are already doing it everyday.
3 live witnesses to the crime and state complicity.
Kasav, one of the perpetrators Now Ansari/Jindal present at the control room in army cantonment in Karachi Daood Geelani/Headley who , as per his testimony in US custody in Chiacago courtroom, did the reconaissance and scouting of targets for the army/ISIWith 3 of them, you can get the full picture. Of course for those that deny, none of them exist.
Still none (in the media) seriously looking into David Hadley's ("Rogue" CIA) role in the attacks....?
There is no logical benefit any govt. agency would gain from carrying out such atrocities in India, only further demonization and embarrassment.
Why are real criminals , who kill innocents, are being referred to as "actors". Actors dont kill real people, they act in Bollywood and kill fake people.
@Qutub Ansari:
Regardless of the merits and demerits of this case being built against Pakistan, Saudi Arabia is not as friendly as we are always (sometimes sternly) told....
Pakistanis have a habit of hiding from truth - let the conspiracy theories and denials begin. What more proof do people need that ISI has been sponsoring LeT after two decades of proofs.
i think that more or less everything is like this LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smnLkvKqkQc
See the dedication of this Indian born Islamic hardcore....Born and brought up in India and did against India.....This is called a traitor at its best form..His whole family and all relatives should be hanged with immediate action , after all this is their blood and single drop of this blood is dangerous to country .What is the point in blaming another country when traitor is from your home ? We should find each and every traitor in our home and shoot them.....
Show the evidence clearly and do not rely on coerced confessions under torture. Coerced torture and confessions is highly condemned and in the case of terrorism there are more instances of bogus confessions than true ones. Deal with this in a reasonable way and conduct adequate legal proceedings. The blame game and using the media to drum up propaganda support is not the kind of activity we expect from mature professionals.
By the looks of the things it seems Chidmbaram is feeling constipated for no of days and the reason is ISI.
@Pakistan politics: "Indians can cry they can blame us or what ever they do we simply dont care"
if you don't care about terrorists being groomed in Pakistan, you will definitely care when the world really reacts. By then it will be too late and it won't matter if you care or not. If you don't take care of issues, the world will do it for you. Trying to push dirt under the carpet is a temporary solution.
Abu Hamza must be an idiot who travels to a place where you are wanted dead or alive?
@Disocstu: I kinda agree with you,but hey it's not always Pakistanis attacking us,at times the attacks are made from outside also.Anyways,I hope we realise our mistakes and adress the issues rather than denying everything everytime.
Jundal has provided a list of ISI officers who were present in the control room in Karachi for the Mumbai attacks. If what he says is true, they even had a huge celebration after the "victory". Looks like the noose is tightening but we will never know till the end if there is a end to this.
On one hand India says we have the strongest forces of intelligence and i agree with them. But a soldier knows that he should never give up his identity, why would they agree that Pakistan helped them?
Another baseless allegation to un-earth an evidence less controversy... At least this will give these Indians a reason to whine about for the next couple of days and keep their patriotic readers hovering around the ET website.
The failure of all CBMs is fairly attributed to the mentality of people like these who will not miss even a slightest possible chance to call Pakistani's terrorist.
Whenever, we extend a hand of friendship to reconcile our differences, Indian government start coming with these baseless claims.
RAW forced a confession and with promises of good treatment also obtained some admissions from him the same way ISI obtained the same from Sarabjeet S. of bombings in Lahore So, lets just all go back home now!
@Ali tanoli: It is really shameful what happened in Kashmir. It is shame for human beings, Lakhs of kashmiri killed by the islamic terrorists.
@Qutub Ansari: INDIAN TROLL! No surprise. You never take anyone head on. It is in your weak nature to do this.
Anyways, I think state actors were NOT involved. Non state actors - highly likely. That is believable. But, honestly, we should learn. I mean why go to India to do all this. They are a separate country (very different) and we don't want anything from India. The only problem at the moment is Kashmir and it should be solved as per the wishes of Kashmiris - Indians and Pakistanis, ideally, should not have a say as to what happens to Kashmir.
@Truth is out there: remember bangladesh..?????
I am amazed at the lack of compassion here. You have to be blind if you cannot see that the attacks were planned and carried out by Pakistanis. There is no national honor in protecting them. It is a stain on our flag. If India is sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan, what did you expect? What did we do in Kashmir. Now we cry not fair?
Our house is on fire, and instead of putting it out, we can only say other people are involved. All the terrorism that happens in Pakistan, is carried out by Pakistanis. Once we accept that, we can address why they do it.
What happened in Mumbai was a travesty, and unfortunatley its been happening in Pakistan. The people who carry them out, are nothing but murderers. They are not hereos and they are not my brothers.
Indians are intelligent except when it comes to dealing with Pakistan...God knows when they'll stop playing in the hands Big players
Proves? oh sorry India might b knowing some, not necessary for Pakistan perhaps..!
@Truth is out there: "Whenever I hear Indians yelp i remember an old saying: “Barking dogs seldom bite”"
The Pak general niazi who surrendered in Bangladesh may not agree with your statement.
@Qutub Ansari - I hope your comment was more not more than a sarcastic and u really do not believe in wht u wrote here.
While the institutions of Pakistan are busy in infighting for personal power and judiciary is busy in destabilizing every government since 2007, Pakistan is being conveniently targeted. I would not be surprised if in future we find that the big daddies got money for destabilizing Pakistan.
@Qutub Ansari: either you're too naive or you're an indian using sudo name
@Pakistan politics: "Indians can cry they can blame us or what ever they do we simply dont care" The world fully acknowledges you don't care. That's why most of it doesn't like you.
Indian should stop the water from indus let pakistan cry all they want who cares
@Qutub Ansari: Saudia Arabai deported him because their masters pressurised them. No prize for guessing who they are. Anyway Indian ministers will blame anyone and anything just to divert their people's attention from the nearly junk status economy.
As Pakistani its not that I am happy for what happened in Bombay, Loss of valuable human life is always discouraged in cultures,religions,teachings,etc. But I can see that Its like many times I have heard such statements from some of the indian ministers. Why do not you guys make it public and let everyone know about the proofs you have got , So as nation we Pakistanis also know if there is really such "state sponsored" stuff going on. Recently you guys had threats that some terrorists are in Bombay again and they were innocent shop keepers from Lahore. So its kind of hard to believe.
the story and culprits of mumbai attacks change every month
a criminals statement cannot be credible.especially when the confession is under coercion by indian agencies and officials. nowdays it has become a fashion to build pressure by making stories.and bcz of bollywood indians are good at making stories.
@Qutub Ansari: Stop being trolls here. Indian news sites have enough fodder for you to play with. Get lost and stop picking fake Muslim names. We can tell.
@Qutub Ansari: I am surprised Saudi Arabia cooperated with India and handed over this guy. Isnt Saudi Arabia our friend? Wajahat Khan knows the answer for you question. Humans learn from their mistakes, brainless creatures don't...... Saudis are humans....
@Roflcopter: Well given what we see in Pakistani televisions on youtube, we Indians won't be surprised even if it were Dogs, Cats and Donkeys of Pakistani origin too involved in this..... You guys are that capable!!
@Roflcopter: Your kitten needs a toy mouse in the right place !
just when india pakistan were getting better, they had to come up with such things. its not only pakistani establishment which is stronger than it should be.
That all is just ur perception no objective based data, evidence is there
Pakistan can state their view as emphatically as they want. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
No one in the western world will believe a shred of what they say.
@Ali tanoli you are a teenage kid,your comments are childlish to say the least. Hindu reported something and you twisted it and made it entirely a different issue.
Indians can cry they can blame us or what ever they do we simply dont care
it is just like US said Al-Qaeda downed world trade center... India still needs to polish its making-up skills
As in nuclear proliferation etc etc you can say its in the past. Lets move on. Just as Panetta says.
this is the plain of america and isreal and may be of russia and india also to blame pakistan for mumbai attacks,really so sad they can't even bear one nuclear power muslim country great :D when every muslim country will have nuclear power than what will happen only god knows well.
@Yuri and pandey I do feel sorry for what happend in Mumbai as a human being. and its a shame what happening in jammu kashmir.
Whenever I hear Indians yelp i remember an old saying: "Barking dogs seldom bite"
@Yuri, & Pandey Bhias, I was reading The Hindu news yesterday evening and they wrote the whole story of syed zabiaudin who got deported from saudi arabia and arrested at Air port in Mumbai the main reason behind this man action was discrimination with them in india and specially shive sena in Maharashtra state and in jammu kashmir so please look at your own home before telling some one else across the border.
Till how long Pakistan will not accept the truth ?
@Yuri Kondratyuk: I suspect ISI informed you that they were involved in 26/11 attacks otherwise ur state have no proofs
@Ali tanoli: Eay Lo now its gonna lot indian troll bashing great pakistan and dont wanna look at there own abuses of human rights.
What does terrorism has to do with human rights, Mr. Ali? We have our own share of issues in India that we need to take care of. We should not have to deal with these sponsored terrorists on top of that.
Let me ask you - You guys don't have any human rights or any other issues in your country?
So now indians will blame Chuck Noris
@Ali tanoli: Since you have taken the approach of diverting the topic, I assume that you can't defend Pak's role in 26/11anymore.
Abu Hamza was arrested with the help of our Saudi friends. Hopefully, our Pakistani friends will take a firm stand and not let their country be used against other nations.
On a positive note, there is an excellent opportunity for Pakistan to prosecute the perpaterators of such a heinous crime and prove to others that they are a responsible nation and are very sincere in their efforts to eradicate terrorism from their soil.
Using terrorism to achieve strategic goals has been very counterproductive anyways.
This time it will be very different. The next 6 months will be very interesting indeed.
This is getting more and more interesting. How will Pakistan get out of this one when they have India ,the NATO countries and China will severe accusations against Pakistan?
Let me guess... they will firmly reject the accusations to do nothing.
well india should stop sponsoring terrorists who launch cross border attacks from afghanistan, and also the seperatist activities in Baluchistan. Otherwise it should be prepared for tit for tat, if it tries to make us vulnerable then it should realise they are bigger hence more vulnerable.
Does it mean India will get USD 10 Million for Hafiz Saeed?
What if 10 armed trained Indian citizens come to Karachi and bombard and massacre 300 people and India says these are non-state actors we are not responsible. How should Pakistan react.
It is very easy to penetrate to highly populous city like Mumbai, there is nothing that any security agency (by Indian standards) can do to protect its citizens.
Eay Lo now its gonna lot indian troll bashing great pakistan and dont wanna look at there own abuses of human rights.
The truth has to come out one day. And it is today
I am surprised Saudi Arabia cooperated with India and handed over this guy. Isnt Saudi Arabia our friend? After all we are Sunni Muslim majority countries and we have brotherly relations towards the Kingdom. Why did Saudi not help Pakistan in this case. How will Lashkar-e-Taiba, Pakistani ISI and Pakistan answer if exposed by this guy.
My kitten was also involved.
Gr8 every time political govt try move fwd, some thing or other non sense happens. This will keep happening for ever till the time armies on both sides get clear message that you are not getting more money to fight each other and tht is it.
Too early to conclude...how about the fact finding is complete before we rush to these quick accusations...stakes are too high...and perpetrators should be brought to justice but let's tread carefully...
Just like Bramdad confirms indian role?
So pressure is building up on Pakistan, on whose behest? No prizes for the right answer.