NEW DELHI: Although India-Pakistan talks on the Siachen glacier ended inconclusively, hopes are high about the outcome of discussions on Sir Creek.
Head of the Indian delegation, Surveyor General Subba Rao told media after the first round of discussions in New Delhi, that his Pakistani counterpart has showed flexibility to resolve the issue given they discussed the matter with an open mind.
"They have come with an open mind. I think they are trying to be a bit flexible now. So let us see what happens. It is too early. We just started," he said.
The creek, which opens up to the Arabian Sea, has been an issue for decades. India says the creek boundary should be in the middle of the estuary, while Pakistan says the border should lie on the south-east bank. The 96km disputed area lies between India's Gujarat state and Pakistan's southern Sindh province.
Rear Admiral Farrukh Ahmed, head of the Pakistani delegation, said it was premature to comment after the opening round of talks ended.
"As you understand we are in the 12th round of talks to find out options, to propose a way forward. As far as the resolution of the Sir Creek issue is concerned, we have had our preliminary conversation with our Indian counterparts. We have to cover some grounds, in the afternoon we are supposed to meet again," said Ahmed.
"Tomorrow, we have a full-fledged day-long session. So, I believe it would be too premature at this stage to say anything or to be able to comment on this issue," he added.
Analyst Ashok Malik said there is a growing perception that the Sir Creek dispute is “doable”. The phrase, he said was apparently used during the Zardari-Singh conversation on April 8.
The Sir Creek dispute goes back almost exactly 100 years. The Creek is around 100 km long water body that stretches from the marshes at the edge of the Rann of Kutch to the Arabian Sea. In 1913, it came to be contested between the Rao Saheb of Kutch and the Chief Commissioner of Sindh. There was a difference of perception between the Indian princely state and the British province regarding the boundary line between them.
Sir Creek was not seen as particularly valuable. The conflict had arisen after locals from both provinces had begun to explore the Creek area for firewood. The case was referred to the government of Bombay. It conducted a survey and offered its opinion in 1914. That verdict is at the root of the current India-Pakistan dispute.
In 1947, when India and Pakistan became independent countries, Sir Creek became a part of a gamut of contested boundaries. The Rann of Kutch itself was the location of the 1965 war. After the war, India and Pakistan agreed to an UN-facilitated international arbitration tribunal to demarcate the India-Pakistan border in the Kutch sector. In 1968, the tribunal gave its award and drew a boundary of some 450 km between the two countries and between the state of Gujarat (into which the old Kutch had been incorporated) and the Sindh province. Many years later, the differences between India and Pakistan have refused to die. In a marshy landscape, where exactly the Creek began is itself a tricky question.
During the two-day talks, Pakistan is expected to reiterate its commitment to resolve the issue keeping in view the historical perspective and in line with the content and spirit of the 1914 resolution.
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See after independence both countries were suffering but they kept themselves and boarders open but then wars start happening with the contribution of both of the countries and who put them on that path? Yes both are keep going on that way faster and faster but who put them there? Why the same gernations who were accommodating each other started hate eachothers? Now look at USA they are big and open and they embrace every one with sure some restrictions, in our case India not acting like America, it should and then carry every one in the region with them for sure accommodating every one of their concerns, if this happen in India then we will see the day of tolerance and acceptance for each other. Blessing for all of us, live in your home the way you like and accept those living next to you.
@Mohd Butt:By dreaming big i mean borders like USA &Canada , reduce the size of the defense establishments on both sides and divert resources to development. I am 62 hope it happens in my lifetime.
@jssidhoo: No dream please ground realities and human suffering must put on end. Only this should be our dream if we must dream.
@Mohd Butt: We must dream BIG only then will we move forward
@jssidhoo: I will just add what you said that human suffering should be considered on top of the list after all, all of our actions should and will be for better living of all of us. Those who are suffering should be paid some respect and bring them in comfort zone. And do all difficult matter with the attention of solving them. Great day if we can do it.
@Mohd Butt:If feel we must solve whatever is easy to solve first. Once we make progress one on any of the contentious issues the environment will improve and we will be able to progress on the more difficult issues. But let us get beyond talks and solve something.
@Tony Singh: See the point is to start let us put all burning questions on the table and make commission on all the matters and not to wait which will be first and which will be next in line. Rather than start sorting out all of them Same time. Pakistan will not deny any thing but bigger issues must me addressed on priorities where human suffering are. It is very simple and plan.
@Mohd Butt: It cannot be a one sided affair. Why cannot Pakistan agree that the border be the centre. It beats me. Every international boundary of such nature has that. What makes Pakistan think that it should not be? Can you explain. It is not matter of heart and love but cold rational thought.
@jssidhoo: Agreed, but suspecting that the fairness may not be maintained is keeping the both paties inconclusive. Trying to meet but afrad to decide is happening since longer than our ages. PLAY the leading part and embrace to push away the past untastful events.
@Mohd Butt:The peace dividend is so HUGE that any minor losses or gains in negotiation just pale into insignificance.
@jssidhoo: I agree with you but balance must not be lost in give and take. And it should happen now.
@rikky(India): It does not matter to us if you don't want love then take what is not love.
@Mohd Butt:" Look at where India and pakistan could have been if we had settled our problems 20, 30, 40 years earlier." Pearls of wisdom my friend, give and take is the answer.
@Cautious: It is so worthless then why emphasize to settle it first and even call a third party for that? Don't impose any condition but be smart to settle the issues. Look at where India and pakistan could have been if we had settled our problems 20, 30, 40 years earlier.
@Mohd Butt: We Indian don't need pakistan love.
@a_writer:No improvement in the relations and we continue to shoot ourselves in the foot.
@Hajira Amir: I am not asking any new treaty but settlement of issues of course with both paties agreement. If India can do it then what is the problem to be in peace with earth other and even love each other. India should look american and Canada how they live with mutual respect and honor. Wish we can do the same.
Exactly what terrible thing would happen if the talks are not successful?
Apparently this is the least problematic issue i hope they resolve this at least so that we can move on to the more troublesome issues.
Pakistanis should look at the US-Canada border and see how boundary run through the center of lakes. What India is proposing is as per international norms and not out of blue. Don't ask India something which has no logic or norm.
My earlier post should read "east bank", not "west bank".
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@Mohd Butt: Thanks, but no thanks for your advice! Please see earlier instances where India has been magnanimous including the Indus Water Treaty, Shimla Agreement, Tashkent Agreement, etc. Every concession was treated as a win.
@Mohd Butt: I think you mean Confrontation*
If you can't agree on defining a border on worthless marshy land then it's unlikely your going to agree on anything. If it's a matter of honor then hire a 3'rd party to decide and move on to bigger issues.
@Mohd Butt: Kindly read it Kashmir. Thanks.
Solve all the matters including Kashmir and we will have best naberhood in the world. Love is king.
India should realize by now that confentration is not solution but is a problem so solve all the matters including Kashim and you will surprise to see,how much Pakistanis will love you. Love is king.