Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has close ties with President Asif Ali Zardari and his chief rivals, the Sharif brothers. They take inspiration from Erdogan, who successfully elbowed the praetorian military back into the barracks. Erdogan was banned from politics under military pressure in 1998, but has served as prime minister for the past nine years. He’s managed to have his cake and eat it too — standing up to Israeli abuse of the Palestinians, yet also becoming a close friend of US President Barack Obama. Erdogan’s comeback story is one Zardari and Nawaz hope to realise in Pakistan.
But Turkey remains a work in progress. Restraints on the military and Kemalism — the hypersecularism imposed by the country’s founder, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk — are recent developments. They’re by no means enduring, though they are bolstered by demographic shifts and high levels of economic growth that have empowered the new conservative Muslim middle class.
Roughly 13 years ago, General Pervez Musharraf sought to impose this Turkish model in Pakistan. Turkey, at the time, was heavily dominated by the military, which has seen itself as the guardian of the country’s sovereignty and Kemalism. Musharraf saw himself as an Ataturkesque sagacious military ruler who would modernise his country and produce a guided democracy. His establishment of a National Security Council was in part an attempt to realise in Pakistan what it had offered in Turkey at the time: a formal role for the military to have a veto power over military and non-military policy decisions.
In the Turkey of today, Pakistanis have picked an excellent role model. What is happening there — the massive economic growth, democratisation and push for greater regional influence — is quite remarkable. But Pakistanis must realise that the Turkey they want to become remains fundamentally the Turkey of Ataturk, not Erdogan. For Pakistan to achieve the balance of Turkey today would require deep introspection and radical change. It would require going beyond the vague platitudes offered toward the country, common in Pakistan’s political discourse and assessing what it really takes to become Turkey.
Walk in the streets of Istanbul and you will hear the azaan recited from centuries-old mosques in close proximity, while restaurant patrons consume alcohol with their meals on street-side tables. You’ll see Turkish and Western couples holding hands as they walk into the courtyard of a historic mosque or shrine. Turkey remains wholly Muslim yet secular; there’s a general tolerance that is increasingly absent from Pakistan’s religious landscape.
That’s not to say that Turkey is perfect. It has fallen short, for example, in managing ethnic diversity. Secular Ataturk promoted an extreme form of ethnic nationalism that has ostracised the Kurds — effectively the Baloch of Western Asia — and enabled decades of heavy-handed policies to root out Kurdish separatism.
Pakistan can learn from the success and failure of Turkey’s political system and society. But it need not restrict itself to a single source of inspiration and wisdom. As by-products of Mughal and British rule, Pakistan can benefit from studying the Indian experience. Pakistanis can learn from America’s ability to absorb new diverse populations and meld them into a single people. It can extract lessons from the success of Japan and Taiwan at balancing and engaging a much larger and potentially menacing neighbour.
In the end, Pakistan must develop its own unique way forward. Maybe decades down the road, transitional states — Muslim and non-Muslim — can take inspiration from the Pakistan model: a bankrupt, corruption and extremism-ridden country that took a hard look in the mirror and finally set itself right.
Published In The Express Tribune, June 7th, 2012.
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@ashar:
@Abid Khan
it seems you are still living in the seventies. Turkey is a changed country now.
It has changed from 70s definitely. Like Brazil and Argentina in Turkey too, the inflation has subsided. IMF has meant more foreign investment is flowing in (i.e. Foreigners own Turkish business) Foreign food chains are taking over the market, while eateries with better food are disappearing. The gulf between the poor and the rich is increasing. Fancy Italian sport models were unknown in Turkey they are no more uncommon. Everyone I knew was driving a SUV. (I did not pry into the system of financing.) A Turk too proud to beg, is seen in all bigger cities. Street hustlers and touts make it impossible for foreigners to move in urban areas. Head covers like in Copenhagen, Ispahan, Birmingham, New York, London have increased in Turkish cities. Earlier people with such attires, head cover and skirts reaching the knuckles were confined too poorer areas at the outskirt of the cities, the maid, cleaning lady or janitors wife. Night clubs are doing a roaring business, smoking is not allowed but every restaurant serves alcohol. I do not have any figures to back-up, but I would believe the percentage of women in different professions in Puristan is comparatively higher. Women driving cars in Beirut is much higher than Istanbul.
The resurgence of "Islam" is slightly deceptive, it is to the Ottoman/Imperial revival one hankers after. Easier bank loans are helping a building boom for the private sector, but schools and colleges have difficulties getting money sanctioned for maintenance or extensions(according to a Chairman of Department, at a University)
So Pakistan's going to emulate Turkey and join NATO? Those who pontificate that you can follow in Turkey's footsteps always ignore that 1) you have no Atatürk and nothing to think that one is on the horizon 2) Turkey is a secular nation & 3) Turkey has close European ties (been trying to join the EU for some time) which drives their economy.
Too many indian comments spoiled the debate. keep it up Kaalchakra. But change your name for God's sake.
@Abid Khan
it seems you are still living in the seventies. Turkey is a changed country now.
@kaalchakra: "Turkey is the best role model for Pakistan because Turkey and Pakistan have the same soul in two bodies. What works for one will work for the other". Ah!. SO you ARE aware that Turkey is secular - right? The girls are not even allowed to wear hijaab in school. Erdogan's wife who is herself a hijaabi had to take out her hijaab when she visited a scool.
@Anique: "We wil have to experience repeated failure again and again and again and again until we sober up."
Failure is a great teacher- yes. Only when failure is recognized as failure and person takes accountability to fix mistakes. We cannot change the past but we can change the future if we learn from our mistakes.
The challenge in Pakistan is that failures are described as success 1965, Kargil or blamed on someone else : 1971. If lessons are not learnt, repeated failures wil not lead to improvement.
It is not just failure in war but the increasing intolerance for diversity and its consequences are also not being recognized for the failures they are: Hindus/Sikhs were first oppressed and aleienated then Bengalis then Ahmadis and Balochs and now Shias. But no leaders owns up to the oppression, elienation and mistakes.
@kaalchakra:
"Turkey is the best role model for Pakistan because Turkey and Pakistan have the same soul in two bodies. What works for one will work for the other."
One more of preconceived ideas about Turkey. Like it or not, they consider themselves as White Europeans. When ZAB Bhutto wanted his regime, controlling a truncated Pakistan, to be familiarised with the Muslim nations, a gathering of Princes and Kings, other dictators from Islamic countries, was held in Lahore in 1974. Turkey refused to participate saying that they had nothing to do with the Islamic countries. Only after mediation they agreed to participate. . Like with other countries, Turkey is just one more unanswered love. It is time Pakistan stopped being humble-pie-eating poor cousin from the countryside. All friendships should be based on both nations treating each other as equals. .
Why should Pakistan adopt Turkey model. We should try and make Turkey adopt Pakistan model.
Turkey is the best role model for Pakistan because Turkey and Pakistan have the same soul in two bodies. What works for one will work for the other.
secularism is the prerequisite for the progress of any nation. until we remain Islamic republic of Pakistan no model is going to make any difference.
@Iftekhar:
"But turkey is homogenous nation unlike Pakistan which has scores of nationalities or sub-nationalities. Turks have one issue of kurds and their record even of present govt not much good in this case while we have scores of such activities going on."
. Your statement is not unique as considerable number of persons contributing to ET do the same, i.e. without having any serious insight of the subject matter, just shoot off their opinion. The saving grace is that it mostly goes unchallenged as there are very few capable people who bother either to react or are inclined to contribute to ET pages, any longer. . Some serious material is available on the web covering the ethnic make-up of Turkey. If you bother to read Management of Ethno-Cultural Diversity in Turkey. The paper has been written by Ayhan Kaya of Istanbul Bilgi University. He says, Turkey hosts approximately 50 Muslim, Non-Muslim ethnic groups, hardly homogeneous as you claim.. . Kurds are the most prominent in their opposition to the state. Many Kurds inhabit the area, rich in oil. In attitudes they are somewhat similar to Pakistani tribes residing in the mountainous areas. They were called "Mountain Turks" by Ataturk.
@Hukum Singh: You are right so is Blackjack and so is John B.You can not make radical U turn without throwing a nation in civil war like Lincoln in !860,but he was a leader per excllence and the price USA and he himslf paid was enormous,few society can withstand that kind of upheaval,look what happened to Russia after Bolsavik revolution,it yet to recover.The list Blackjack listed is a reasonable thing to do,but it is very slow,and the result will take decades,and for various reasons not doable both in India as well in Pakistan,but I agree you will have mixed result like in India some good but some impossible to reform like corruption and non-tranparant bad goverance like India has.What is the solution,if you can come up with it,more power to you,I'm not ashamed to say I'm a pessimist,65 years have born me out than others.Proof of pudding ------------ .Most things are time pass,there is reason why USA,West are first world and we are 4th world,sorry it 3rd.I regret the error.Good day.
Arif Rafiq saheb wonderful , mild word choosing,but has a ring of truth and hense bite.After a long time some one has avoided pontificating and without offending ask us to see ourself in mirror,You did not say it,but I shall say it,what we will see,is not pleasing.Full of warts and pock mark.How did we manage to mess up like this?One can write a book,and God knows there is enough matirial & blame to go around since 1947.Only thing is Kamal Pasha saw the real Turks in 1925 and said enough is enough,in my book Lincoln,Kamal Pasha Dang of China are greatest leaders of man ever, who radically changed their sick culture,society and civilization and brought about change in their respective country,two are world power and one a reginal heavy weight,does Sub-continent has this kind of timber?,I doubt it.I would love to be wrong for our sake.
@SharifL:
where lies the status of education in your secular model. do we have the level of education where continuity in the process of democracy would bring about results like Nigeria of Turkey. Having educational system divided into classes and categories as of our socialogy we can never envisage any change no matter our so called democratic process continues a hundred years. we will have no body but the grandson of bilawal, hasan nawaz and all those so called peer sahibaan in the arena of politics with their intentions known to all of us.
We only talk about secularism when we have to corner the religion otherwise we are the most orthdox people of the world in Pakistan who wants to give no room to others to accomodate. Rich is getting richer and poor is getting poorer day be day and it is not because we are not secular, it is because we are losing our grip on quality education.
Pakistan will only advance forward when the people of Pakistan truly appreciate their miserable condition. We wil have to experience repeated failure again and again and again and again until we sober up. This may take decades and decades. Turkey experience 200 years of failure before it changed. Educated Pakistanis can vist the world and see what other countries have achieved but the lessons will not sink in. Our pride, arrogance, conspiratorial mindset, brain washing will ensure it will not.
Ground realities vary in different corners. Apart from that Pakistan can proceed to reform itself once US meddling in the region stops.More than Internal, its external problems which has hampered Pakistan Growth. Take a realistic look.
Created in the name of religion and consumed in the name of religion.
The army in Turkey was secular which is not the case in pakistan. People voted out secular parties and the one reason Erdogon has not been able to change the constitution to Islamic model is because it does not have two third majority. People talk about corruption in Pakistan. This has nothing to do with economic achievement. Nigeria is one of the most corrupt in the world, but the democratic system has helped increase its economy to an extent that by 2025, it will beat South Africa. So continuity matters. Turkey is also doing fine. Let democracy and economic uplift be our top priorities. And of course secular and scientific approach to all matters.
..........all pakistanis agree that we got the country in the name of religion, but the overwhelming part of them also agree that we will not allow it's destruction in the name of religion! let us look at ourselves and accept the fundamental facts of life; if we all agree that we are a mixture of punjabis, sindhis, balaochis.........then, what is harm in recognizing that in the constitution - a multi cultural, multi ethnic nation which is under no hurry to meld it's diversity into one, but is ready to allow them to first coexist and then unite, at historic pace, say over 100s of years into the future! meanwhile, being very vigilant that no ethnic group or region is left behind to become bangladesh tomorrow! this all will entail religious adherence to the concept of equitably spreading the fruits of development across the country, in order to rapidly remove the scars of under development in the vast swathes of the country, which are now clamoring to take a tagential route!
Excellent article. Secularism and the neighbourhood to Europe make make it to progress economically. But the religion on the front burner is dangerous for the future of Turkey.
Dear Author,
To put it bluntly....If you are advising that our sisters and daughters should start going out with their boy friends ....... then I think we are not yet ready for that and we don't want to follow this model
Pakistanis are talented enough to devise their own model according to their culture and religion.....the only thing is lack of sincerety from Politicians and intereference from abroad
Also it should be researched as to what extent US has played the role of keeping pakistan on it's knees economically and it should be published
The only way forward, irrespective of any model in the Universe, is Education, Education and Education. Period! If one wants to progress, one has to embrace education and promote questioning, thinking and creativity/imagination. A nation without these is destined to remain stagnant and backward. Everyday must bring something new to the knowledgebase - this is what should be the motto of a living progressive nation.
In Turkey the civilians only had to deal with the army. In Pakistan they have to deal with the army on one side and the mullahs on the other.
"Pakistanis tend to see Turkey as a Muslim-majority state that has got the right balance of Islam and modernity"
Right balance is no Islam, only modernity. Even headscarves are banned in Turkey's schools, with the fear that the minds of the young ones will be corrupted by Religion.
Anyone who reads about Turkey will see a distinct pattern that is missing in other secular countries like India, US - absence of any religious or spiritual symbol and even rejection of God.
Its safe to say that modern Turkey has locked Islam away in the closet and the results are there for everyone to see.
Pakistan is a nation created in the name of Religion, it has to undo its very idea to be anything like Turkey.
I frankly don't see a way out for Pakistan, its doomed if something drastic and unexpected good doesn't happen. With the trend it is following now, Pakistan is doomed.
But turkey is homogenous nation unlike Pakistan which has scores of nationalities or sub-nationalities. Turks have one issue of kurds and their record even of present govt not much good in this case while we have scores of such activities going on.
Pakistan is a unique country. Its futile to compare with any other country.
Nice article. Write more often.
maybe in the next five generations but not anytime soon!
Unlikely - the Mullahs are too drunk on power and able to emotionally manipulate the people of Pakistan to let such a 'blasphemy' happen
Author said - "Maybe decades down the road, transitional states — Muslim and non-Muslim — can take inspiration from the Pakistan model: a bankrupt, corruption and extremism-ridden country that took a hard look in the mirror and finally set itself right."
Are we not being a bit too optimistic? Look at your current state and look at what you are aspiring to and look at the obstacles in between. If Pakistan and India were at same level in 1947, then in 64 years Pakistan's HDI indicators has gone down and is closer to Somalia now. Trust me, you have a long way to go. And one of the obvious reasons is religion over which Pakistanis cannot do any compromises.
PAK should take a hard look at the Indian model. PAK has nothing in common with turkey. Turkey has been the melting pot of east and west for centuries and it is easy for turkey to assimilate the secular principles.
The cultural history of PAK belongs to the subcontinent and PAK was after all secular before her becoming Pakistan. In any case, transition will take 50 years, even if PAK follows Turkish model diligently.