SHC orders protective custody for Faryal Shah, husband
Faryal and her husband Naveed Shah were summoned to the court today along with their lawyer, while some members of Faryal’s family also appeared before the court with their lawyer.
The bench said that the couple either be sent into police custody or to Darul Aman as Faryal’s family has been constantly protesting. But, they gave out a short order of sending the couple to the police, and also ordered that tight security be provided to them.
The couple has also been summoned by Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry in the Supreme Court on March 26, when he will announce his verdict.
Faryal’s uncle Raj Kumar also appealed to the court that Faryal be sent back to her family as she has been missing since a very long time.
Faryal has repeatedly told the media that she converted to Islam of her own will, while her family has constantly blamed the Pirs of Dargah Bharchoondi in Sukkur of abducting her and forcefully converting and marrying her.
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If she converted herself from Hinduism to Islam at her own will then I shall request CJP to protect her and my prayers are always with her. My almighty ALLAH PAK bless her with HIS mercy and keep her (family) safe. (Aameen)
@Ajaya K Dutt: And what is your source of these "alleged abductions" in Sindh... please do your research before commenting....
That's why Pakistan is in dark ages. Ever petty matter is covered by media and every big issue is pushed under the rug.
I read somewhere that girl had given a written statement before lower court judge that she was abducted and coerced to accept Islamic faith, but crowd accompanying her was threatening even someone has slapped her in front of the judge. She was pleading to go back to her parents but instead court awarded her custody to her abductors.
ET did its usual heavy handed "moderating" when they removed my post demanding an apology from ET for repeatedly using the 'Forced Conversions' tag for this story. The tabloid-like weekly theme of minority persecution to stir up public sentiment has backfired and now ET is censoring its own users who are offended by its bias. Apologize ET...you screwed up!
To all saying why no muslim girl converts to hinduism? Hey! Go check again hinduism close religion noone can enter in it. And if any one does s/he will become shudre. So keep your bongos quite!
I shall be very ashamed if anything like this happened in India. But there are about 20 allegdly 20 abduction cases per month in Sindh alone. But then I am just a human.
I am totally against a marriage like that. It would be much better if the boy ask the girls hand from her parents. He should tried to convince the parents with his elders. If he tried all things and failed, he should respect that and moved on. There are more fish in the sea. They married but they cannot enjoyed. The girls parents are not happy and it did not mention the boys family if they like this kind of marriage or not. I like a marriage when everybody is happy. I wonder why the boy choose a hindu girl when there are thousands of muslim girls available. Since she is a minor I hope SC lets the girl go to her parents and then the girl convinces her parents to marry the boy.
@Sid, your defense is apalling. It would be indefensible and ugly, if India or USA made laws that said only Hindu or Christians can become president or PM. In Pakistan, a Hindu is not about to become president. So the purpose of the law is to just denigrate non-muslims and mark them as second class citizens. The population gets the message and acts accordingly.
According to World Minority Rights Report 2011, Pakistan ranks as the 6th worst country after some African states with respect to safety and rights of minorities. The report is for everyone to see: http://www.minorityrights.org/download.php?id=1011
@Babloo: If you wish to term those as a second class citizens for the mere reason of their illegibility to be a President or Prime Minister of the country that was created on the ground of particular ideology then that is undeniable fact. But for the same fact anyone who is not born in the USA as such cannot be the President of the country does not become or feel as a second class citizen. Besides, for the followers of the faith where most are termed and treated as second, third or forth class of humans, it does not make much of a difference for not being able to be a President or Prime Minister of that country.
This is from news reports of the press conference. You can judge it for yourself....
"..When asked for how long she had known Mr Shah, she said she did not know him or had never met him earlier. After embracing Islam she married him.
At this point one of the two men came forward and said that the press conference was over. They held her arm and took her away while Naveed Shah remained there.
Before the man and the girl could reach the door of the room, the mediapersons asked that why a person associated with a Dargah, a religious place, was holding the arm of a non-Mehram adult girl and dragging her, he only said that “she is my sister” and when confronted how could she be his sister as she had embraced Islam only a few days ago, he said: “she is my Islami sister.”
They boarded a waiting car and left along with a police mobile which was parked outside the press club.
Its a waste of time debating to people who are blinded by the misconception fed to them by the media. @everyone if you hate Pakistan,its people and system please leave it, its the best we can offer you.
This case is an example of a minority group threatening Muslims. Anybody familiar with interior Sindh knows that Hindu land lords are just as powerful as "Muslim" land lords...and I use the "" because most of the land lords in interior Sindh are Muslim in name only otherwise they're pretty much hindus with all their grave worship and elevation of pirs practically to the level of Gods. Its a strange world in the interior of Sindh and its nothing like the Muslim vs minority picture being painted by ET. They should know better
ET will be embarrassed after the decision of court
Pakistan is slowly turning in to Black Spot on Islam......... days are NOT far Islamic countries starts maintaining distance with Pak.
@Kamran: yeah i read that, dont knw what has happened to liberals over her conversion
@Antebellum: Good example of the primary reason many turn a blind eye when something bad truly does befall Pakistan and they want everyone else to follow standards applied to everyone but themselves. Any charges against actual forced conversions and the threats given by Muslims? Nope. It's even a common occurrence for them to threaten the lives of others. A literal daily occurrence. You harm your very own chances of justice by denying it to everyone else. Justice requires support. Without it a victim stays a victim if they want another to handle it.
@ mj : such a bigoted approach .. for sure , pakistan was carved out for the muslims' where thy cud practise their religion . not to supress ne other religion .. n if u really pronounce pakistan as a muslim state' than ur flouting Islamic system treating minorities ..... i think u realy dint bother urself to peep into the holy teachings of Last messenger of Allah ( treaty of hudaibya and the pact of madinah (misaq e madinah) )) .. its really pathetic wen reading such comments from the literati.... pakistan was not clutched for this day.... Jinnah was not dat fanatic as u guys hav presented him ...... no one is saying u to live wid ne minority ... dis is da rezn y pakistan is lacking in da field of national integrity..... giv them the name of citizens instead of minority ??
i think dat girl and her husband both are mature enuf to make their decisions.... everyone must have ,, this is what the acceptibility... she's chosen Islam to b her new way. neither her family nor her in-laws must have any issue .. but the practised fanaticism in Pakistan even in the whole sub-continent doesnt guarantee such freedom... for this purpose, state must ensure their security.. Let the person choose his/her 0wn way . May it be infidelity, secularism, or liberalism, everyone is free to chose his own way... Any religion shall not be recognozed as taboo.
@Giri:
Muslims blow each other up but they won’t do such an act? How so?
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If Islam does not need protection as you say then the Muslims must not be afraid of letting people express views denouncing Islam as much as praising it blindly by its followers.
frankly i believe its nothing really against the hindus.its against humans.they wanna convert pakistan into afghanistan. they'r even targeting muslims.kidnapping a hindu-they have a reason to convert them into muslims;what about muslims?why are they kidnapping them?they have another reason.they want to convert us into 'true' muslims observing strict pardah. sometimes i wonder how weak the men are.they want us to cover ourselves so that men dont get tempted by our sight.really?men cant even control themselves?
@Kaffir
Islam needs no protection from muslims because Islam is a divine religion sent by the One & Only True God. Muslims only try to correct the wrong perceptions of some non muslims and their inferiority complex filled hate comments about Islam.
Regarding standing up for the truth, if someone truly follows Islam they have to stand up for the truth. There is a surah in the Quran, which says "By Time, All of Humankind is in a great loss, except for those who believed in Oneness of God (Islam), did righteous deeds, exhorted one another to the truth, and exhorted one another to patience"
So according to Islam, per this surah there are 4 things a human being must do to be saved from loss (Hellfire):
Believe in the one true God and worship him alone without associating any partners to Allah (The one true God) . Do righteous deeds. Stay away from evil deeds Always be fair and just and support the truth and exhort others to to the same. Always be patient in times of trials and exhort others to do the same.So if any humanbeing does these 4 things, he/she is a good muslim and is saved from the loss (hellfire) and is given a great rank in the hereafter by Allah (swt).
Find the true story here. http://ummat.com.pk/2012/03/12/news.php?p=news-08.gif
I am a hindu, but i clearly support the view that this girl is telling truth. How can islam, which means submission to Allah and the followers do such an act. For those who don;t know read Quran first and then make up your mind. The hindu community is bringing bad name to islam through lies. No muslim will ever do such an act, infact she is getting threatened from her family for choosing to convert to a peaceful religion and their family is jealous. Muslims should give a warning to hindus that if they want to live their, don't create a nuisance and lies or else they should be sent back to India. I am tired of hearing such false abduction cases, and i request the media not to publish any of those without verifying from the imam and the husband's relatives. Shame on hindu girls for bringing bad reputation to hindus all over the world. Make sure if you cannot beat them, join them.
@mj:
Now minorities need a new homeland from within Pakistan for their protection from majority, just like Pakistan was created for supposed protection of Muslim majority. Two nation theory should be applied one more time. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
We muslims should appose such people who become muslim for some other reason rather then the ideology. - Munir Hyder
When will Muslims become concerned with facing truth than with protecting Islam? When will history be studied for what it was, society for what it is, than for increases Islam's glory, love for Islamic figures, protecting Islamic honor? That's when Pakistan will wake up into a free nation.
@Calypso: If i am not mistaken anyone below the age of 21 is a minor in Pakistan , this girl is 17 is her marriage legal ?
@faraz: "Although there have been many cases of forced conversions" Do you have any prove? Have you seen personally if anyone has been converted?
@mj: Minorities are "hijacking" Pakistan?? Are you serious? Are there any minorities left to speak of? Alas, it is the same blinkered attitude to truth that has ruined Pakistan.
Suppose, the girl says to CJ in SC that she was forced to convert. She would be back to her parents but she would find difficult to find a new spouse. Anycase girl's life spoiled by fanatics.
Poor girl will be declared apostate if she says she was forced to convert and wants to go back to her parents as a hindu. The smartest thing she can do is keep her thoughts to herself and know that Allah knows what is her heart. If she has been forced by the pirs and her husband , may they suffer for their feats If she has converted of her own will why is she not allowed to meet her parents??? this is against the principles of Islam not to honour your parents. So it seems the story has many unanswered aspects , and commenatators do not know the truth , so it is wrong to pretend we know exactly what happened (in most cases this is what we want the truth to be , which is not usually accurate).
@ all
I think people(of all religions) should let this matter slide, one thing any of us don't want is some deluded people murders the girl under the misconception of bringing shame to the family, country or Religion. Let the girl survive the ordeal and live her life without more burden. The problem is deep within the system of Pakistan, the girl is 17 years old, she is minority anywhere except pakistan. This can only happen in Pakistan.
i am almost dumbfounded,perplexed by some of the comments over here,when the family who knows both the place and the victim, for all their life claiming that she was kidnapped and accepted Islam under the coercion.those allegations should be heard and addressed with a sense of objectivity and rationality rather than unrelenting bias which is prevalent in pakistan ubiquitously when it comes to religion.how come a girl who hears hate for her and her religion on daily basis could find sudden love for Islam is beyond me to conciliate.
Aren't Hindus, state declared 2nd class citizens, when the state laws explicitly forbid them from becoming president or PM ? Whats the purpose of the laws other than publicly and explicitly condemning them ? Please explain.
Damned if she says this and damned if she says that ............ she and her family are damned whichever way .............. unless they are allowed to migrate lock, stock and barrel! the court should decide whether she was kidnapped or not ........... the question of conversion and the validity of nikah has to be considered after that .............. Ah! but there are so many things we never find out. Not even the truth.
Interesting-the couple eloped- but there was no dishonor to their families because a brave muslim lad who is assured of the tacit support of 160 (+) million majority Muslim population made off with a Hindu girl, belonging numerically weaker minority community. It happened in a land wherein jirgas condemn to death - without trial - Muslim couples who dare marry outside their tribal or ethnic group. Yet in the same breath they joyously support an eloping couple of mixed faith, as long the girl is a non-muslim and she converts (!) to Islam. Aren't the standards of family honor and self-respect blurred in this land of hypocrites and charlatans - they certainly defy logic. It leads to one conclusion - the intensity of displayed (!!) religious fervor is proportionate to the strength of the majority community and the absence of fear from reprisal action, in other words, it is simple mob behavior. Was this religiosity expressed during the riots in Gujrat, when Muslims were at the receiving end? Wouldn’t this same religious zeal be better placed in aiding the Muslims in Gujrat or other parts of India where the Hindus are in majority?
The beauty of Islam is such that it appeals to the human heart and mind, because Islam is the religion of human nature. Islam means submitting your will to God and the peace acquired from that. Unlike other religions, Islam is the only religion which teaches monotheism...ie there is only one God, without any partners, or children or parents and God has no images and only the one true God has to be worshipped. The one true God is Allah. The english word God or lord has plurals, genders, etc but the word Allah is unique without any plural word to describe the one and only Lord of the Universes.
However forced conversions are not even conversions in Islam. To be a muslim, one has to accept Islam from one's heart.
Pakistan is an Islamic country, it was created as separate homeland for muslims not minorities, why do I feel that minorities are slowly hijacking our country, this is what Muhammad Ali Jinnah said when Gandhi requested to created United India and abandon Pakistan
Muhammad Ali Jinnah“It is extremely difficult to appreciate why our Hindu friends fail to understand the real nature of Islam and Hinduism. They are not religious in the strict sense of the word, but are, in fact, different and distinct social orders, and it is a dream that the Hindus and Muslims can ever evolve a common nationality, and this misconception of one Indian nation has troubles and will lead India to destruction if we fail to revise our notions in time. The Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs, literatures. They neither intermarry nor interdine together and, indeed, they belong to two different civilizations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions. Their aspect on life and of life are different. It is quite clear that Hindus and Mussalmans derive their inspiration from different sources of history. They have different epics, different heroes, and different episodes. Very often the hero of one is a foe of the other and, likewise, their victories and defeats overlap. To yoke together two such nations under a single state, one as a numerical minority and the other as a majority, must lead to growing discontent and final destruction of any fabric that may be so built for the government of such a state. GET IT..
Why so many armed people have to accompany her to the court or elsewhere when there is no threat to her life from the parents side ? How does one know that she might have been forced not to speak the truth in view of the threats from these armed groups that her parents and relatives would be eliminated if she dares to disobey them ? Pakistan has become a living hell for the minorities and the only option for them is either to migrate to India or other countries.
express tribune must be drooling over this chance to whine about Islam, considering their bias anti Islamic rhetoric, How pathetic is it that they would disregard and humiliate this woman just so they can write a headline. Such media is no different than the treacherous politicians Pakistan suffers from, and both deserve the same punishment.
Nothing will happen, No hope for justice for Hindus in Pakistan. It seems, all are same side of coin, be it fanatics or judges. they are filled with hatred against minorities. Mark my words, even judges will take side of extremist moullavis ultimately.
People tend to believe only the part of story or news that matches with their perception. We are blindfolded by our self-righteous attitudes. The liberals won't believe that she converted to Islam of her own will and radicals will believe that the conversion wasn't forced. Only Allah knows the best.
@Humza:
Will the court give protection to a Muslim girl who converts to some other religion?
Are you trying to say that the court isn't doing a right thing by providing her with protection? When something hasn't happened (i.e. a Muslim girl converting to an other religion) why to worry about that and overlook the problem at hand?
May Allah keep her steadfast and give Hidayat to her family also.......and give Mulims of the area sense to deal with her family with soft mannerstrong text
@JAM:
What's other side of the story, in your opinion?
@xyz: And you know this how?
They may actually have threatened to kill or harm her family if she says anything against the religious fanatics will; she may not really have a choice other than to say what they want her to. I honestly feel sorry for the girl and her family. Hopefully the court will solve the matter without being biased.
If it is a forced conversion, then shame of those who did it and shame on the Pakistani state which cannot protect its citizens. And what is wrong for being Hindu? God is God and he does not have any religion or ethnicity, so what is this all fuss about. And who told that Muslims are better than followers of other traditions? Live a life Pakistan, it is 21 century.
i think express tribune is controlled by traitors ... y these ppl exploit every anti pakistan/ patriot issue to ... For God sake stop this effort of ruining unity b/w muslims and non muslims in pak
I would like to see your guys reaction if muslim girls start getting forcefully or otherwise converted to another religion. will you guys still pretend to be "neutral" ?
@Humza: Such cases are not fit for court in Pakistan. Justice is served on the street itself. Of such a case you will hear only when the girl has been sent to gallows. Ignorant and hypocrites!!!
How come only young Hindu girls of marriageable age are converting to Islam?
I think she should stick to 'conversion-of-her-own-free-will' stand for the safety of herself and her family. In a country where even ministers and governors are not safe, what chances does she have? Truth can wait, human life is more important.
The pir family of barchoondi are totally against love marriages, i wonder what happend in this case.
@Antebellum & @WB:
If you don't have any respect for minorities, stay out of their matters instead of badmouthing them.
Protection from whom? Pakistani Hindus hardly have any strength or clot. Only thing Pakistani SHC do is protect the remaining Hindu families from these kind ot attrocities happening again.
I am father of 19 year old girl. Religion is something which can never take hold of her or anything like it can even make a difference. Studies and her future is the only thing she has in mind now. Its absolutely crazy that a girl of 18yrs can convert and disown her parents. Of course, no Muslim girls convert to Hinduism. Very strange. In India two muslim girls were killed by their mother when they married Hindu boys.
alsom pl read these two stories:
http://www.ndtv.com/article/cities/dishonour-killing-eighteen-year-old-girl-shot-by-brothers-for-eloping-85511
http://www.ndtv.com/article/cities/agra-dishonour-killing-24-year-old-girl-killed-lover-commits-suicide-85300
@Muhammad Naeem: ET has its own agenda, bias reporting, i will find myself lucky if this comment gets published
@Pakistani Hindu
And I checked the link, the content is either missing or has been removed from the site
Why ET always write one side of the story...????
Well the so called liberal here wont accept her own statement but that of her family? why? which is more important? and if she is sent back to her family against her own will, will that be justice because her family will force her not only to convert her religion but will also separate her from her husband.
Does anyone expect rinkle kumari to give an honest statement of her abduction and forced conversion when she is constantly held and surrounded at all times by the religious fantics of the pir? whenever she's come before the media or the courts,the mullahs have always been surrounding her,how can she be expected to state the truth? this appearance in the supreme court will be a farce because her statement will be given under coercion and pressure exerted by the religious fanatics who have her in their custody for many weeks now,they'll be pressurising her to give the statement they want her to give.
HI ET
Please check head line of this story.....How can u give such a ambiguous head line when she has said several time that she was forced to do so????? "Faryal has repeatedly told the media that she converted to Islam of her own will"
Dont be bias...
Send her father to the police
the Pakistani muslims want to eradicate Kafirs of their country...........by hook or crook
"Forced Conversion". Faryal has repeatedly told the media that she converted to Islam of her own will
why dont u wanna accept that It was not forced Coversion
God Bless Rinkle and her family.
Send Faryal's Hindu family to prison for threatening the couple. Let justice be served. They have already blackmailed the nation, and brought shame to the country, by faking victimisation.
More details on BBC. here's the link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2012/03/120309rinklekumari_sa.shtml
incomplete story.
Faryal has repeatedly told the media that she converted to Islam of her own will
then whats the problem with the liberal media??
Will the court give protection to a Muslim girl who converts to some other religion?
God bless you both. Have a happy life martial life. . . .!!!!
Although there have been many cases of forced conversions, but this doesnt seem to be one