Ahl-e-Sunnat Wal Jamat ban on US directive, says Ludhianvi
“These attempts at banning ASWJ are on the directives of the USA,” chairperson Maulana Ahmad Ali Ludhianvi told The Express Tribune on Saturday.
Ludhianvi said, “In the last few months, we have been peacefully busy in the defence of Pakistan with the Difa-e-Pakistan rallies, so which activity of ours has been a reason for the ban.”
“Ahl-e-Sunnat is a school of thought and not an organization so we consider this as a ban on the Ahle-e-Sunnat followers.”
None of the offices of the ASWJ have been sealed by the government so far, Ludhianvi told The Express Tribune, adding that no official documentation had been sent to them and they found out about the ban via the BBC Urdu report.
The report states that a notification had been issued by the Interior Ministry two weeks ago, which said the ASWJ was suspected to have been involved in terrorism related activities. According to the notification available with the BBC, authorities in all four provinces had been alerted to the change in status.
ASWJ is a member organization of the Difa-e-Pakistan Council, which has been organising rallies across the country. The Multan DPC rally was hosted by the ASWJ and was also attended by Malik Ishaq, the co-founder of banned Lashkar-e-Jhangvi.
Jamaat-e-Islami’s Information Secretary Anwar Niazi says they will condemn any attempt by the authorities to ban ASWJ. The political party is also a member of the Difa-e-Pakistan Council.
“Every time any such ban on a religious organisation occurs, it is either on the instructions of the US or given by pro-US elements in the government,” Niazi told The Express Tribune. He said the ASWJ were “all patriotic Pakistanis.”
Jamaatud Dawa spokesperson Yahya Mujahid issued a statement condemning the ban and said that it was an attempt to harass the Difa-e-Pakistan Council politically. “If there is any accusation against the ASWJ, it should be presented in the courts and this ban is without any evidence.”
Mujahid also said that the ASWJ had only been banned after the DPC began holding rallies for the defence of Pakistan and it was being done due to “external pressure.”
ASWJ is also allegedly known as the political wing of the banned militant outfit Sipah-e-Sahaba, known for its sectarian ideology and violence.
The secretariat in Lahore, Farooq-e-Azam, has also been host to addresses by several members of ASWJ and speakers affiliated with banned outfit Lashkar-e-Jhangvi.
During a conference on September 7, 2011, banners with the name of Sipah-e-Sahaba were put up on the walls of the secretariat and speeches inciting violence against the Shia community were given by the speakers.
Ludhianvi also went to the Kot Lakhpat Jail in Lahore, with armed ASWJ guards to receive Malik Ishaq on his release after imprisonment of more than a decade. Members of ASWJ had welcomed Ishaq and showered him with rose-petals at the jail’s gate.
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@Sajid: Just to be clear, I don't condone any of these religious parties and their actions, but does your logic not apply on SIR Salman Rushdie?
@Hussain: Interesting how you contradict yourself, saying they're not involved in hatred or violence, but that it's justified to have a militant wing to kill all opposition because everyone else is doing it. Twisted. You don't have to be hypocritical and lie about the fact that ASWJ are very much a Wahhabi/Salafi/Deoband/Sunni supremacist group who are primarily anti-Shia bigots and are linked to L-e-J and their sectarian cleansing agenda. Unfortunate there are so many extremist sympathizers and supporters.
Yeah Agree, otherwise they would have banned the organization earlier
it should have been done earlier
@Basit:
That's a ridiculous hyperbole biased majority victimhood claim, who clearly can't appreciate the gravity of anti-minority terrorism, and somehow taken to believe condemning ASWJ equates to all Sunnis. No, ET doesn't spread hate against Sunnis, nor have ever advocated for violence against an obvious majority which most of the newspaper's own staff are part of.
They only highlighted the existence of many right-wing militant Wahhabi/Salafi/Deoband/Sunni extremist groups in Pakistan, which are fact. Might as well be listening to a deluded white supremacist's racist rant demanding the local newspaper not spread hate against 'white people', when in reality all that local paper does is mostly print stories on visible minorities' being discriminated by such hegemonic privileged supremacist organizations and their extremist members, or claim overall societal bias, prejudice or bigotry without being specific naming the ethnicity or sect, which they respectfully try to avoid many times.
@abdul:
Disgusted by the sectarian extremist and terrorist supporters. So you admit they weren't clean and were involved in criminality, and should clean up the militancy but continue inciting violent hate? What a dirty bigoted ideology. They both have links to terrorists and support terrorism, be it against Pakistani minorities or on foreign soil in Afghanistan or India. Should request them to either stop being militant criminals, inciting religious extremism and bigotry or be locked up.
Most of the readers are of the view that these organizations are incieting voilence between the communities and countries , and therefore should be delt with iron hand, is a good sign . The Pak govt. should not ignore this demand of the silent majority of the country any more .......?
@Ansari
Its always Freedom of Speech but you should differ it with 'Freedom of License to kill Shia Muslims.'
@faraz: If spreading hatred against other communities is not protected under free speech, ET should be shut down for spreading hatred against sunnis.
@Sajid
Well your comment posed the most EDUCATED argument I have ever heard in my entire life, Thanks for appreciation buddy. I just love this .. muaaahhaahhahahhahahh !!!!
@ All Liberal Extremists
Sorry buddies, your certificate is not required to declare any organisation as militant or whatever. It's done one American's demand and who knows what they gonna demand next. Its not a simple "do more" list, its actually a "do more ..." list with three dots have unwritten and unending demands concealed in them. You guys won't understand it unless Pakistan is turned into Afghanistan and/or Iraq by Americans.
Americanisation of Pakistan is a bigger threat than Talibanisation.
Now come on Liberals comment on this statement of mine, I will love to hear :) :)
Till our financial system has poor monitoring to traces clear source of funding and connections to these organisations,it is very difficult to control,sympathizers with in our system of intelligence is another serious matter to control.
Yes! There is 'freedom of speech' in our country. What the ASWJ has been banned for is incitement of hatred and violence. Salams and have a nice day.
Wrong decision from Government! ASWJ is a peaceful and very strong organization. It will come back. Inshallah! I request them to challenge this ban on supreme court and clean themselves and come with a clean and more peaceful organization like Jimat-e-Dawah.. There are lot of American puppets in our country. May God save us all!
why our beloved pakistan govt dont banned the ethanics parties from pakisstan ???
It is just a hogwash as their patrons in military and civilian outfits will continue their not so coveted support to let them indulge in their nefarious activities.
Great ! Thank God finally this hate mongering Group is Banned.. God Bless the USA!!
Will this 'ban' be as effective as the ban on Lashkar-e-Taiba?
@Ansari:
You'll have to ask Christians burnt in Gojra by the extremist organisation the answer to this.
@AHSAN RIZVI: what do u mean by positive step???
Unless the virus is stopped it would mutate and come back stronger with another name. To these rightwing extremsists everything happens because of America. Sun would not rise in Pakistan without American help, what a sick mindset?
@Ansari: Freedom of speech is OK. Freedom to incite hatred and sectarian divides is not. ASWJ fails on both accounts. Besides, don't fret. ASWJ is probably already back under a new name.
@faraz: In your dreamworld i.e... Freedom of speech is
we r/sick and tied of those groups,they all should be ban .
ASWJ, SSP, LeJ are different heads of the same monster that are destroying our beloved country by promoting an extremist brand of Islam. If such bans are carried out in letter and in spirit, it will go a long way in literally rescuing this potentially great nation from these mad men. A peaceful and tolerant Pakistan free of ethnic or sectarian persecution will be a prosperous Pakistan.
Send Army packing, we have ASWJ 'DEFENDING' Pakistan!:D
Banning them is not enough, just BANISH them!
The picture shown is the future of pak.
Thanks to Allah, ASWJ, LeJ ky Chiefs ko bhi house arrest kiya jaye...
@Ansari:
Hey stupidity extremist, freedom of speech is NOT absolute, this freedom is revoked the moment speech enters a mode that may be inciting violence, hatred or discrimination based on race, color, or religion. You are so uneducated.
"Ludhianvi said, “In the last few months, we have been peacefully busy in the defence of Pakistan"
That means no more terrorist attacks on Pakistani civilians? No more border violations? No more injustice with women and minorities? What defence of Pakistan?
Banning is not enough, arrest it's senior members, make membership in this murderous organization illegal. Make the junior members sign a legal promise to never associate with this gang again.
@Dr Khan: @Ansari: Freedom of speech, freedom of religion and political rights don't extend to inciting violence and murder against others. They are linked with militant terrorists such as pro-Al Qaeda L-e-J , it is documented (don't be disingenuous claiming where's the proof on the likes of Malik Ishaq, when you know he threatens judges in open court). They are an extension of their front organization, targeting minority Pakistani citizens, especially Shia Muslims.
Their members sparked sectarianism early this Muharram at the end of a rally murdering 2 boy scouts, and were involved in a retaliation murder of 3 random Shia lawyers for their slain ASWJ lawyer. They are bloodier than the Klu Klux Klan could imagine. But thanks for showing us your far right conservative extreme sympathies and support lies with bigoted sectarian terrorists. I only hope there are more Sunni Muslims who would rather condemn the terrorists than condone their ideology.
This Saudi funded organization should be banned in the past, people who still have a soft corner about ASWJ need to watch their videos on youtube and they'll observe the hatred this organization was promoting in their Jalsas.
Very good step by the Government. Freedom of speech stops as soon as it affects the freedom or others. Hope this ban is followed rigorously and all such rallies banned. If left unchecked, Islamic Republic will soon become, Sunni Islamic Republic and then in the next stage, some Sunni Mosques will be called as True Sunni Mosques and other Sunni Mosques labeled as not representing True Sunnis.
Exterminate the extremist mullah and cleanse pakistan
@Farhan: Ignorance is bliss
Soon, everybody will kill everybody else.
"Ludhianvi said, “In the last few months, we have been peacefully busy in the defence of Pakistan with the Difa-e-Pakistan rallies, so which activity of ours has been a reason for the ban." Well Maulana Saab I think there is some past before the last few months you are mentioning
Educated Sunni or Deoband sect people are not with ASWJ. So I think this move is a positive step taken by the Govt. to avoid further polarization/conflict between the Shias and Sunni people. Allah sub ko aman se rehnay ki toufeeq dayy.
Big deal -- just like the other banned alphabet terrorist oriented groups -- once banned they just change their initials/names and Pakistan is happy.
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Protection of freedom of speech cannot be invoked when it infringes on the 'right to life' of someone else. These groups incite the foolish Pakistani masses to murder with false promises of heaven.
Sipah Sahaba is playing a clever game.
Renaming itself as ASWJ in order to appeal to regular Sunnis, SSP is now attempting to latch on to the freshly popular, independent foreign policy bandwagon in order to further the designs of its Saudi masters. This would enable SSP to garner new legitimacy in the face of rising public anger against its terrorist activities, especially with the Barelvi majority of Pakistan now waking up to the reality of this Saudi financed menace.
Hence we see new antics such as the recent "Difah e Pakistan" travesty.
Saudi Arabia is attempting to direct the course of the Arab Spring by injecting financial support into Wahabi groups around the world. However, as always, these nefarious efforts are bound to fail.
And then Jamaat-e-Islami says we are not extremists.
Ahle-e-Sunnat..?
As far as i remember they are from the Salafi/Deobandi sect not from the Ahl-e-Sunnat.
@Ali Wali: any proof of what u said man ........
Yeah just keeping your name like Ahle Sunnat wal Jamm'at don't make you guardian of all the Sunnis in Pakistan. That is much of a self proclaimed designation. I am a sunni and I am not a follower of this Jamm'at. Rest in peace, and let Pakistan and Pakistanis live in peace!
Even if that is on USA directive its GOOD As for some bashing on liberal extremist and freedom of speech , we are all for it but provoking hate etc is not the way
Why would the US be concentrating on ASWJ when you have other already banned groups walking around right next to them doing the same things?
Its a section of GHQ strategic thinkers that have sympathy with this jihadi mindset, otherwise who does not know how brutal these barbarians are!
I agree with above comments that this mindset does not represent majority peaceloving sunnis living in Pakistan peacefully. But, when will this majority stand up?
I oppose this ban, it is undemocratic and illegitimate. The ASWJ has been peacefully working amid demos and protests, there has been no violent incident linked to them, theyre clean as far any accusations are concerned. Banning them can only be linked to intl pressure, this is our country and it is our right as Sunnis to form a legit represntation of our in the political arena. We want proof, liberals, you call this a step in the right direction? I call this a violation of our freedom of speech and expression, a violation of our freedom of religion. because there still remains NO PROOF.
Good job against the self appointed, violence mongering reps.
A ban only on paper is not good enough to control these jihadi organisation who have brought the country on the brink. There should be total ban on holding any future rallies which might bring some sort of stability and relief to people who are living in constant fear.
So how many $ we will be getting by this action? How many people we will sell to US this time? and for how much?
@Ansari
Freedom of speech doesnt apply to militant organizations that openly spread hatred against other communities
Using politics of hate and religious symbols to control masses, ASWJ is not a representative of majority of Sunni community in Pakistan, it is foreign funded terrorist organisation whose domain is it's hate spreading, violent madrassas built with Saudi and other Gulf monarchy's financial help, because these monarchies feel uncomfortable to see prosperous Shias. Does not matter if US pushed for the ban, it is for the good of Pakistan.
@Ansari The constitutional freedom of speech that we have is subject to "public morality" - If i were to represent "liberal extremists", I'd say yours is a nonsense argument.
I think there is some truth in this ban being at the behest of the US. @Much Amused is correct, they'll just re-spawn and continue their activities.
What a great news on weekend! Bye bye ASWJ;)
ASWJ can be equated to a terrorist organisation. You can ban them but they will surface with same terrorist designs under some other name/garb.
Sorry, the warmongering, violence promoting ASWJ doesn't represent the peaceful Sunni majority of this country, they are represented by Tariq Jameel, Ghamdi etc.
finally a positive step taken by the government...............
Hey Liberal extremists, Now what you say about "freedom of speech"? !!