Talking to the media at his residence, Khan said that the present confrontation between the institutions was unfortunate but the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) pushed itself into it, so that they can get sympathy votes in the upcoming elections.
PTI media advisor Shafqat Mehmood said that the Supreme Court is as supreme as the parliament and no institution is less significant than others. “The PPP just wants to become a siyasi shaheed,” Mehmood said.
However Mehmood said that he doubted if the military will takeover. “I think the situation would eventually fizzle out and I don’t see any signs of a coup,” the PTI media advisor said.
Earlier PTI Chairman Khan welcomed former PPP leader Khalid Kharal and former Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) provincial leader Inamullah Niazi along with former PPP provincial minister Shah Nawaz Cheema from Gujranwala into the PTI fold.
“I pledge to work for the implementation of Quaid’s vision in the country. The current political system has become rotten and the political parties have turned into dynasties,” Khan said.
The PTI Chairman further said that his party has gained momentum on its own and those who say that it is supported by the security agencies, are themselves the creation of the agencies.
Khan said that at the moment, his party was busy organising itself for the upcoming elections.
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@Ahmad: For someone who signed a maafi naama and denies it?
@Ahmad: why on earth would you vote?
@Super pak:
its ironic that you say "a leaders is to make tough decisions even though they may not be popular" because IK is the epitome of a reactionary populist. supported mush when everybody did and then ditched him as soon as his popularity began to fade.In fact, its Nawaz Sharif who has been critical of the army even though its costing him votes. He fits much better into your correct definition of leadership. but something tells me you're gonna vote pti.
@Mia Khan: Thank god we got rid of you showed us you were just a bandwagoner. Go vote for ppp or pml Im sure they will lead pakistan to prosperity. A leaders job is to make tough decisions even tough they may not be popular. Any thing that get him the premiershipthe better for pakistan
@zak, a couple of points among many that you conveniently forgot ...
Illegally overthrew an elected civilian PM and subverted the constitutionDid not like the CJ so imposed emergency and "suspended" the constitution
The above two should be reasons enough to charge him with treason in a civilized society.
The real Macho Man
Thats real imran who changes his mind and thoughts accordings to the situations. Great Khan sb for acting like an opportunist. you deserve to be our leader.
We with you Mr Prime Minister (Imran Khan) :)
'Sympathy votes', that is next play of the PPP just like in 2007/2008. Fool us once, shame on you, fool us twice, shame on us
Musharraf had 1) kicked out IMF and world bank for good! 2) he had an empty (less than 3 billion dollars) foreign reserve which he took upto 17 billion dollar. 3) Look at Karachi and Lahore stick exchange in 1990's and in 2005-2007 4) look at the oil and commodity prices in 2006-07 and now! 5) compare the 5 or 6 total drone attacks between his tenure and the number of drone attacks that occurred in a week starting 2008-2009. 6) look at Karachi law and order in 2004-05-06 and compare to now. 7) look at development at his tenure and compare to now. 8) efforts for woman rights were commendable. 9) don't forget the lal masjid operation was not done all of a sudden. There was about 10 hours negotiations before it began. How can you forget that maulana Abdul AZiZ tried to run. These maulvis say that his mother was shot through the window. My question is why would you keep your mother in front of the window and simultaneously be fighting pak commandoes besides her? Had she been kept inside in a safe room she would have survived? The maulvis were responsible for massacre and 10 commando deaths!
@ Abbas from the US, the gross misgovernance and sheer ineptitude shown by this worst ever civilian government of Pakistan has done more than enough to turn people away from democracy. The image managers in ISI didn't have to do a thing.
Its easy to mock people suffering from the misrule of this government while sitting cosy in the US!
IK, again beyond my expectations :-) all i have, Respect for you Sir.
@Ahmed What about the remaining 170 Million People of Pakistan who didn't vote for PPP? Do they have any mandate? I have told you that by law it is possible to disqualify the PM.Obviously, court will listen to PM's stance on contempt of court matter before making any decision but it is not bound to bow to the wishes of government.Democracy is not being equal to remaining of PPP in the government.
@Azmat: Yes, he did and does, latest one was in Khyber Agency pick up incident, get yourself registered on PTI's facebook page or go to PTI's website, you will find all the articles there.....but what our forces are being forced to do for the sake of other's war isn't right, perhaps you should visit that parts of Pukhtoonkhwa and Tribal areas...and Baluchistan then you will know...
@Azmat: Short answer: No.
@hamza khan.. Dream on.
Also, those who used to call PTI establishment party should now shut-up or hide !!
@Ahmad
"Please tell me just one policy of Imran Khan that he’s ever mentioned. EVER"
Why do you also not ask other parties what their policies are? Do you know what PPP and PMLN plan to do? Have they ever mentioned what they think should be done about the things you mentioned?
Clearly im in a minority here, so really no point in talking further. I am now taking ME2's advice now. Maybe somebody else will convince you. Go watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2JpxjHOUryg
Will Mr. Khan ever condemn the terrorists attack in Pakistan?
@Ahmad:
You could argue all your lifetime, but the prejudice that has been created against civilian rule by the image managers in the ISI will never allow people to see thru the lies and deception.
SC has the ultimate the authority to interpret the law in any given situation.... PM is clearly violating the orders to you know @ahmed it is tantamount to serious deviation from oath..... Just read the oath....
And one THIng always remember ... CONSTITUTION IS SUPREME ONLY IN A TRUE DEMOCRACY not any parliament or its members. Since parliament is the maker or changer of constitution that's why the supremacy of constitution can be altered but it is the ultimate authority. Constitution HAS given great powers to judiciary AND ANY VIOLATION IN THE EXERCISE Of the supreme court order is VIOLATION OF Constitution and thus PM is under fire...
And last thing... there are always slight GREY AREAS in constitution ( bc it cannot be 100% perfect) and in that grey area the power lies with one which has a moral authority or a good perception among 3 pillars of states
Since SC is unblemished in our times that grey area ( i call it moral authority) is currently resides with SC and i think PM is a goner...he is going to JAIL or even suspension or removal from power ( maybe for the life time )...
@Ahmad: I started reading your memo, but after a few words I realized life is too short. Don't work too hard. Forget Imran Khan, he doesn't know anything about the constitution. Constitution, as interepreted by the Chaudhry group judges, can feed the nation and defend the country. If we write to the Swiss Court, the GDP will double, and the enemployment rate will go down. Besides, we should form another Supreme Court to hear cases other than anti-PPP ones, like for example my neighbour's case which has been pending for the past 12 years. P.S. Brother Ahmad: Can you please post an executive summary of your comments?
@Ahmad: Yes, you are right. Instead of pretending all that, lets pretend that our country is doing great. Its economy is improving. People are happy with the status quo. Lets also pretend that our last elections were fair and there was no bogus voting. All our parliamentarians are honest, committed and sincere people. While we are at that, lets also pretend that the law and order situation in Pakistan is very good. There are incidents of ethnic violence, extremism and suicide bombing. There were a few but our police was able to get to the criminals. The criminals are behind behind and justice has been served. Lets pretend all that and forget about what Imran Khan said. Or we can forget what happened in the past, People do make mistakes because they are human beings. Imran Khan also made some mistakes but he corrected himself and now he is our only hope. Or maybe you are right. He is not our hope. Lets pretend that we don't need to bring any change whatsoever.
@Ahmad: " Khursheed Mehmood Kasuri into his party, a person directly responsible for the Balochistan situation by being Mush’s FM"
This tells all about your political understanding. Let me get it right. A foreign minister is responsible for a military operation in the country. How about Musharraf and his INTERIOR minister???
@Abdul Maalik
I believe that this is the article you are referring to 63 A person shall be disqualified from being elected or chosen as, and from being, a member of the Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament), if:- (g) he has been convicted by a court of competent jurisdiction for propagating any opinion, or acting in any manner, prejudicial to the ideology of Pakistan, or the sovereignty, integrity or security of Pakistan, or morality, or the maintenance of public order, or the integrity or independence of the judiciary of Pakistan, or which defames or brings into ridicule the judiciary or the Armed Forces of Pakistan, unless a period of five years has elapsed since his release.
However, one cannot simply be held in contempt, the charge has to be proven. A whole trial has to take place. In which case many other factors come into play. If the court has held a person in contempt, is it competent to try that person, given the conflict of interest? And keep in mind, these are rules regarding MPs, not the PM. (though they may not be any different) And after the conclusion of such proceedings, the Election Commission also becomes involved. And these are rules with exceptions. Practically speaking, how would it look for one more democratically elected PPP PM in the court? And common sense begs the question, how can a court of a handful of judges overturn the mandate of 10.5 million people? Won't that be tantamount to derailing democracy, if not treason?
@ Ahmed, respect ur views but here is an answer to policies. Tax collection by finishing indirect taxes, declaration of assets n collection of taxes through collaboration of chembers (same people give charities to organisations), economy will be knowlege based economy spanning across all sections u mentioned as we have resources for all that sectors, Balouchistan problem wil be solved by giving there rightfull rights to them n involving Balouchis into decision making n by economic regeneration in deprived areas as the problem there is socio-economi, forign debt will be cleared by FDI by overseas Pakistanies, we have complete plan ready with companies ready, PIA, PR, PS etc will be run on merit n by depoliticising m making them institutions and when we talk of institutions we wud never give extentions to individuals as we believe in institutional capabalities not individuals, their budget will be discussed in parliment n secrets bits in camera but will be scrutanised, jobs will be created by regeneration n investing in education n health, Kashmir issue will be resolved by the will of kashmiri people n by 1948 resolution as if USA can,t enforce its will in afghanistan how can we do that in kashmir, Kashmiries will decide their future, yes we will talk to india re water m bilateral issues, we will build more dams that is part of economic regeneration n economic growth, we will bring FATA into main stream by giving them equal rights as other Pak citizens and TTP n other militents will be re-integrated into society n making them usefull n loyal citizens of state by giving their rightfull rights n by dylogue. Just give us this opportunity to correct Pakistan as our country has everything, we just need good leadership n rule of law n then u see this country taking off im couple of years......can u remember there were floods few months ago....we r resilient nation, hard working, talented, eager to do something for our country, resourcefull and most of all believe in Allah. Nasr
@Mr.Ahmad You have quoted article 204 very rightly.But one important connection you missed; if any member of parliament (whether a minister, a PM or simply a member) becomes convicted by contempt of court, he is immediately disqualified from his seat by election commission.This is described in the another clause of constitution which states the qualifications for a member of parliament.So, punishment on contempt of Court=Disqualification from NA seat by election commission=Removal of PM from his office
So, is he still sponsored by the establishment ?
The PPP just wants to become a siyasi shaheed Oh cover already blown ..lolz
While the definition of a balance of powers of the three organs of state as stated by various people here is correct, I am yet to find that written in the Pakistani constitution. I may be wrong about that. But relating to this case (NRO), the removal of the PM by the SC simply cannot happen. The only way to do that is through a motion passed by Parliament, regardless of what the SC does. Same for the President. So maybe the SC shouldn't be threatening to do things it doesn't have the power to do in the NRO verdict. Here is the relevant part regarding powers of the SC:
204 Contempt of Court. (1) In this Article, "Court" means the Supreme Court or a High Court. (2) A Court shall have power to punish any person who, (a) abuses, interferes with or obstructs the process of the Court in any way or disobeys any order of the Court; (b) scandalizes the Court or otherwise does anything which tends to bring the Court or a Judge of the Court into hatred, ridicule or contempt; (c) does anything which tends to prejudice the determination of a matter pending before the Court; or (d) does any other thing which, by law, constitutes contempt of the Court.
Does holding in contempt equal removal? It doesn't. End of story
PMLN and PPP are family parties. PMLN was created by General zia ul haq while PPP founding leader served as general ayub foreign minister.Imran kahn created his party from his own intiative. however imran khan should be very careful as these old people can damage his party reputation particularly those who are involved in corruption.I do hope PTI policies will prevail in the end
@Imran Mohammad:
you are in for a rude awakening very soon. you are among the few misguided who were saying this for the past year, that he is done and will never come back. now when he is returning inshallah, the politicians are saying he is going straight to jail. we will see who will go to jail. president musharraf will return and the PML-N and PPP will run away. inshallah!
@dv sikka:
spoken like a true patriot. the man has governed and did so successfully. mistsakes apart, anyone supporting imran who thinks once he comes to power he will not make grievous mistakes is out of his mind. imran will make mistakes, but do we know how he will govern? we dont. president musharraf zindabad. pakistan first.
Khan Sahib, my two cents, if you have ambitions to rule then err on the right side and don't say things you can't bet your life on. Stay clear of this situation....
Hasan Nisar Said: Allah Na Karey Imran Nakaam Ho. Let us all wish Allah answers Hasan Nisar's prayer.
@Ahmad: Your assertion that judiciary serves at the pleasure of the PM is incorrect. There are three, indpendent institutions: the legislature, the executive and the judiciary. In simple words, the legislature makes the law, the executive implements the law and the judiciary interprets the law.
That's political speech for "that's my job - keep your hands off of it.".
@Mr.Ahmed You are absolutely mistaken and that's perhaps in the love of bhutto.Take out any book on parliamentary democracy, it will say that any state has three orgrans; the parliament, the executives and the judiciary.Parliament is headed by the Speaker and the Chairman Senate, the executives is headed by prime minister or president (depending upon whether there is parliamentary democracy or presidential democracy) and the judiciary is headed by the Chief Justice.The Chief of Army Staff comes under executives.No judiciary in the world can work under the instructions of prime minister or to the pleasure of parliament.Parliament has the role of making or striking down any law and that's it.
Please don’t vote for PTI in the next elections, you probably think PML-N,PPP, ANP or MQM are better choice, do you?
Imran Saheb; " You ought to have used the word Tolerate instead of Support any Unconstitutional Step by the Army". If we seriously with an unbiased mind dissect and introspect all our problems whether these are Socio-economic,Terrorism or Political ninth-tenth of the blame would go to the Army's myopic and self-serving approach.
This is right statement by the MAN OF PRINCIPLES-
We trust Imran political strategy. PTI supporters will follow you and will never try to lead you Imran. Do what you thnk right strategy. However,if you deviate from objective then we will not be with you.
This news item has been published approximately 44 minutes ago. Those who keep saying PTI is pro-establishment should stop making baseless allegations and instead start asking as to why is Nawaz Sharif quite at this extremely crucial moment of Pakistan's democratic history.
@dv sikka
Where have you been living all these years,man or woman? Look beyond Musharraf now. He is done.
We are still with you Khan .. and we trust your judgement on whoever u let join the party.
Respect for IK for a brave tone set! Will see what Nawaz says!
I have lost all hope in you Mr imran khan and your party,,, your party sold us loyal supporters out by letting in the rogues...
@Ahmed: bro, pls educate yourself before you unleash your ignorance. In any true democaratic system, Parliament and Judiciary are given same weight, however, Judiciary is considered ultimate authority on the interpretation of the law and to protect the spirit of the constitution and the freedom of rights. So your argument of ‘chosen’ vs. 'elected' does not make any sense, and particularly in our ‘democratic’ set-up where almost 40% votes were bogus and a vote sells for Rs100 – give me a break.
And for your comments on IK, pls grow up and stop this propaganda. For people like you, I have a simple question: let’s take IK/PTI out of politics for a minute, now who do you see to take this country out of the mess - those who have been in politics for the last 3-4 decades and have bankrupt and disgraced this country??? There is no one except IK ! Do not agree with me but I am sure if you think with a clear mind you will come to the same conclusion.
Haha,alarm bells ringing for everyone.Oh army,may you come in and show boots to everyone.We are not made for democracy;ours is a nation which can only thrive best under a secular,liberal dictator.Hence the obvious,Mushi is in the driving seat again probably!
@Ahmad: Please don't vote for PTI in the next elections, you probably think PML-N,PPP, ANP or MQM are better choice, do you?
Ahmed: Not really .. the CJP, the PM and Governor State bank all work at a similar level. Only the president is above the 3.
These organs are not in an heirarchy over one another.
Be sure IK the move will be totally constitutional while you are doing the job assigned quite efficiently -- transforming people's mind that anything happens should be constitutional.
Good job khan sb we r always with u
Spoken like a true (future) Prime Minister! :)
Good Job IK, democracy must reign. Go for election if GHQ cant work with this set up. No more Boots in PM or Prez House.
Thats like a MAN !!
There is only one man who enjoys the respect of both Civil and Military in Pakistan and that is Musharraf. Let him come and take over and set the house in order. The current infighting will destroy Pakistan.