Tribune Take: Difficult for civilian govt to seek a military official's resignation

Published: December 16, 2011
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In today’s episode of the Tribune Take we take a look at Mansoor Ijaz’s latest allegations, this time against Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) chief Lt General Ahmed Shuja Pasha.

Zia Khan, reporter The Express Tribune Islamabad, says tensions are running high between the civilian and military leadership. In a National Assembly session on Thursday a female parliamentarian demanded that Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) chief Lt General Ahmed Shuja Pasha should resign and face an inquiry based on the allegations that he had met some Arab leaders early this year to discuss a military coup in Pakistan.

Khan says that it is difficult for the civilian government to seek a military official’s resignation, let alone asking the head of the ISI to resign and volunteer for an investigation.

Khan also says Pakistan Muslim League – Nawaz’s latest petition – asking the Supreme Court (SC) to summon Pakistan’s High Commissioner to the United Kingdom (UK) Wajid Shamsul Hasan – is just an attempt to get political mileage out of the scandal.

Read Zia Khan’s articles here.

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Reader Comments (11)

  • sam
    Dec 16, 2011 - 8:53PM

    i think Pakistan political leadership should first deliever something to people and than think of confronting military .Otherwise it looks to me you are only fighting for your share of Cake. couple of years ago a survery was done and 98% of Pakistanis were against a civilian chief of ISI. you can imagine. There are evidances against Haqqani while against Pasha only allegations.

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  • M. I. Aslam
    Dec 16, 2011 - 9:32PM

    This is a strange article , I fail to understand the resemblance between the two cases ……
    On one side is Mr Haqqani who deny but there are EVIDENCES against him which lead to his resignation not only by Mansoor Ijaz but also by BBMs , James Jones and Mike Mullen …..
    now on the other side there is one statement by Mansoor Ijaz in which he says that SOME US INTELLIGENCE official told him about mysterious activities of DG ISI in Arab States and he himself has told on various Pakistani tv news channels ( I ve heard him on 2 channels) that he cannot prove this about DG ISI’s activities and its only media which is SPINNING (he used the same word on Geo) the case to shift the blame on ISI and hide the actual case.
    now the same thing is being done through this news item ……… i dont care about any one who works against Pakistan and constitution may it be a civilian or a uniformed person but media MUST not SPIN the statements

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  • Jadugar
    Dec 16, 2011 - 9:38PM

    Difficult it maybe, agreed, but there is always a first time, least these law makers can do is have it on the record. Ms Gohar took the bold step, why can’t these loud mouthed political leaders take the step, if they cant then they should be wearing the “Dupatta “

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  • Cautious
    Dec 16, 2011 - 10:08PM

    If your politicians can’t demand resignations of the military — who can? You try and hold yourself out as a Democracy – well no Democracy works without leadership and leadership takes guts — something that seem to be reserved for internet warriors only in Pakistan.

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  • rehmat
    Dec 17, 2011 - 1:13AM

    @M. I. Aslam: “On one side is Mr Haqqani who deny but there are EVIDENCES against him which lead to his resignation not only by Mansoor Ijaz but also by BBMs , James Jones and Mike Mullen …..
    now on the other side there is one statement by Mansoor Ijaz in which he says that SOME US INTELLIGENCE official told him about mysterious activities of DG ISI in Arab States and he himself has told on various Pakistani tv news channels”

    1. Neither Mulen nor Jim Jones have said that Haqqani was involved in a memo. In fac Mullen says that he trashed the memo because it was unsigned and he could not authenticate who it came from. Both of them have simply agreed that they received a memo from Ijaz. There is nothing except Ijaz’ word to show that Hussain Haqqani dicated the memo. The blackberry messages do not once mentione the word memo NOr is there any evidence that Haqqani dictaed the memo over the phone. Since Ijaz has been able to show his email sent to Jim Jones, he should have been able to show an email sent to Haqqani where Haqqani reviews Ijaz’s draft butno such email exists.

    2. The same blackberry messages that supposedly should be taken against Haqqani also mention about ISI talking to Arab rulers to remove Zardari.Anyway way back in 2009 also there are Wikileaks that talk about Kayani mentioing to Us that Zarari would have to be removed.

    So if Ijaz Mansoor’s word is good enough to prove that Hussain Haqqani is the one who dictated teh contents of the memo to him, his word should also be good enough on the other issue. Both cases either stand or fall on Ijaz’s word.Recommend

  • sajid
    Dec 17, 2011 - 6:38AM

    SO tribune had to write a whole article to explain this extremely obvious thing to us

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  • ayesha
    Dec 17, 2011 - 8:42AM

    @M. I. Aslam:
    “On one side is Mr Haqqani who deny but there are EVIDENCES against him which lead to his resignation not only by Mansoor Ijaz but also by BBMs , James Jones and Mike Mullen …..
    now on the other side there is one statement by Mansoor Ijaz”

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  • Feroz
    Dec 17, 2011 - 9:43AM

    I think most citizens have not understood what is a Democracy. A Democracy is a system of governance where the Government is run by leaders elected directly by the people. The constituted body of elected leaders is normally called Parliament. Parliament is the sole body that can make Laws, amend them and implement them. Every organ of the State is subservient to Parliament in any Democracy. Parliament is answerable only to the people and none else.
    After reading the above paragraph people must decide whether Pakistan is a Democracy or not.

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  • Mirza
    Dec 17, 2011 - 11:34AM

    Gen Jones has poured cold water by his affidavit to the SC. It is a shame that the whole elected govt is made a hostage of one American man Mansoor Ijaz. Now there is no reason to waste time and national resources against the elected govt by the unelected PCO SC. Like all govt servants generals are paid public servants and should be accountable for all their visits to Arab countries after they were found in bed with OBL. Recommend

  • Jang
    Dec 20, 2011 - 1:13PM

    I as a true Pakistani trust the military much more than the civilian government!

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  • Jan 6, 2012 - 4:46PM

    @Jang: Qite AMAZING!!!

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