Hazara Town blast: Suspect’s identity confuses investigators
Last Saturday, a man died in his own terror plot when the explosives he was planting in Hazara Town went off prematurely. The man has now been identified as Pervez Ali, whose father is a local Shia leader in Jaffarabad district.
With this revelation, the probe has taken a new turn as investigators had earlier believed that the attack was an incidence of sectarian violence that has escalated in volatile Balochistan.
“The suspect is Shia and the son of the general-secretary of Wahdatul Muslimeen Jaffarabad chapter,” confirmed DIG investigations Nazir Kurd. “The police is investigating the matter from different perspectives and his father, Farhan Ali Haideri, has been asked to report to the police within a week.”
According to the Jaffarabad police, Pervez was a resident of Shahbaz Colony in Jaffarabad’s Jatpat area. In an apparent attempt to conceal his identity, he had listed the name of his uncle Noor Hassan as his father on his identity card.
Published in The Express Tribune, November 10th, 2011.
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@ michael "so what if they are shias"
I don't think that hazaras will find it comforting at all to think that you regard them as lesser citizens than you.....
I feel very bad about the hazaras in quetta .I have known these people for a very long time. in fact I have grown up with them, they are very hard working people, very honest, and very clean, so what if they are shias .all this target killing should be stopped why is the goverment not doing any thing ,
Khadim Husain! Is not doing any Khidmat to Husian these days. He overtime has become a master fabricator of stories, hypotheses, conspiracies that are politically & racially charged creation of his own. He believes all the races, religions & political parties he is not affiliated to are involved in scams & frauds of some kind. No education or courses can open the eyes of such individuals, sadly because they are looking for "convenient theories" where not much brain is used. His stories are so easy that one can create in a short trip to men's room. Mister Husain even boasted about his "study or research" into the matter. One can only enjoy his letters. He just showed us a classic example of a sample letter for the education of innocent first time readers.
@Ahmed Qureshi.
MMMMMM...So this is all about the killing of Hazaras ahmmm. A jealousy and a narrow mindedness of a typical local! aaahhmmm... Australians at least do their humane duties, what so ever the reason you may portrait.Where as a local like yourself concerned and being a Pakistani has always been denial of any minorities rights in Pakistan. Do not forget the 3 Hindo Doctors death... and Do not forget the ceremonies of the lawyers and barristers when the Governor of Punjab assassination and the christian's mp's death. that's why you people going backwards in stone age or people like livvingi cave. To me you got double jealousy. One that why Hazaras in Balushistan's offices and the other Why they get nationality in Australia and when it comes to other Pakistanis they are never welcome to any other countries of the world..
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@Ahmad Qureshi, You have raised two main points 1. Hazara are killing themselves to get asylum in Australian for nationality, The first incident which occur in 1999 on Sardar of Hazara, At that time no issue was to go out of Pakistan, 12 cadets of Hazara police were shoot dead in Sariab Road, Attack on Imambaragh Kalan in Makangi Road killed more than 50 Hazara, Ashura procession which killed more than 50 Hazara in 2004. that was only a beginning of killing the Hazara has lost Political Leaders, Doctors, Engineers, Traders, Land lords & Olympian sportsman. So simply in other words we can say it hurt the Hazara so badly, 2. Hazara get jobs in government offices, A question was asked by a journalist from CM of Balochistan why you don't give jobs on merit, In reply the CM answer the journalist that If i give job in merit than non of seats can be taken from Hazara, As the CM of Balochistan know that Hazara are hardworking & talented. they will get the seats on merit.
i have worked with Hazaras and found them better pakistanis than punjabis, pathans, sindhis, balochor any other ethnic group. i am stunned after reading Mr Qureshi,s Myopic Remarks...
This revelation is not bizarre in anyway. infact, it explains why this kid blew himself up before reaching his target. It seems likely that he was kidnapped from jaffarabad and used by his handler as a suicide bomber.
@Ahmed Qureshi: try to familiarize yourself better with hazara history.
@ Khadim Hussain
Don't talk of things you have no idea about. I am a Hazara and a Pakistani and I love Pakistan and will serve Pakistan as long as I can. I don't know and don't care about the rest of the Hazaras but I was born in Pakistan, will live in Pakistan and if it comes to it I will die there. You can keep on saying that Hazaras are anti Pakistan but our actions speak louder than your words. Every Human being has the right to find a better place where there are better opportunities and so Hazaras migrate from Pakistan because they have been neglected like the rest of Balochistan.
@Khadim Hussain:
General Musa is a much respected and honored Chief of Army staff in the history of Pakistan and a great example of true patriot soldier. believe it or not doesn't make any difference. Don't you think it was the well organized planning of establishment to tranfer General's grave to Iran to burry his honor and achievements with him, not only to make him deprecated but to make sure that no General Musa should born again.
*Establishment has been faithfully running foreign interests in Pakistan for decades.
Rest of your points are based on your fascist nature revealed by your writings, no comments on them. May Allah bless you.
@Khadim Husain: why ur heart is burning so rapidly. u read ur own history then talk about hazaras after washing ur mouth. HAZARAS are the nation who ruled over the sub-continent, u came from Arab, the nasl-e-jewz, u r now talking about Hazaras. HAzaras are those whom u r damned father Abdur Rehman (LNH) could not finished, who u r. ur remarks show that Hazaras are stronger than u. u r burning ur self.HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA
HAZARAS ARE THE GREAT
LIVE LONG HAZARAS
General Musa was buried with full honour at Quetta grave yard, next day peoples astonished that his grave was opened and body was missing. His dead body was mysteriously flown to Iran and later peoples were told that he was re-buried at Iran. Hazara's are politically proxy of Iran. It is not our headache that who declared Hazara's as non-Muslim by Amir Abdul Rahman, now there is no Amir at Afghanistan, so go back now. One of the vice president of Afghanistan is Hazara. We did not question that Hazara's are not good peoples, surely they are human and Pakistan always provides assylum on huminatarian basis to Afghans. Still there are 3 million Afghans. Presence of a few dozen Hazara's in 1883 does not make their claim solid, when thousands moved to Baluchistan and Para Chanar within last 30 years. Go back now to Hazarajat, your original place of migration. Storey of migration of Muslims from India is different after partition, we never talk sectarianism. Any sect who migrated from India is Pakistani citizen after partition. Hazara's by heart against Pakistan and their demonstartions and websites clearly shows that their goal is to seek immigration by making base to Pakistan, because their Afghan origin is considered to be suspecious. Type in google and search that who are those interpreters that are seeking assylum is NATO countries and what origin those might have.
Mr Quershi,U r totally wrong as i live with hazaras and knows hazara people they r true Muslim they are hard worker they love Pakistan all of them are against Terrisom and they never involved in terrisom.I asked you question.Why majority of punjabi peoples r in southhall London,Manchister,Bermingam and even they r in Glasgow.Punjabis are not suspect of terrisom but y they r taking asylum in all over the world.Even i knows one Punjabi who took asylum in the name of hazara in Australia.If u knows Farsi u can also apply for asylum as Hazara. People and Gov of Australia welcome Hazara people in Australia..
Mr. Ahmed Qureshi for your kind information ,don´t forget that Hazaras are living in their own land and territory .Have u forgot the Mughuls who ruled in the sub-continent for several hundred years.Our grand fathers Mughuls have ruled over u . I think that you don´t know the old name of Quetta city (Shalkot) which belongs to Afghanistan. The Hazara nation joined Pakistan with their homeland Shalkot. A very famous urdu idiom for u ( hamari billi hami ko miaoon) .
@Khadim Husain: you totally wrong hazara work hard for Pakistan general Muhammad mosa did hard work for Pakistan you thing general mosa come about 3o years ago?
Some of the comments against the Hazara community are racist and uncalled for. I personally have seen that Hazaras are one of the most talented people around and probably the only Afghan migrants who have assimilated successfully and call themselves proud Pakistanis. This is very contrary and opposite to the millions of hypocrite Afghan Pashtuns who are living in places like Peshawar and Karachi since decades and backbite Pakistan any given day of the week.
Hazaras are not the enemy; they have played a big role in the economy of Quetta. Its the useless pro-India Afghan Pashtuns living in our country and taking up our resources who need to be sent back to Afghanistan.
@ Ahmed Qureshi and Khadim Hussain
Hazaras came to Quetta in 1888 which at that time was part of India under the British Empire. They were forced to leave their homes because of Amir Abdul Rahman of Afghanistan who declared a Jihad on all Hazaras because he considered Shias as non-Muslims.
Pakistan's Chief of Military during the 1965 war with India was a Hazara, would you say that he got the job because Ayub Khan didn't like Pashtoons, Punjabis or Balochis?
What a disimformation that has blinded ur visions and u guys know nothing except ur ignorence...
@Khadim Hussain: DONOT try to mislead yourself or people.with your bogus statements. you gave big statements, can you share trusted links that should support your statements? othere wise your statements will be lie or could be your lack of kowledge, personal hatred or hyporcacy.
Mr. Ahmad Qureshi is quiet right because I know many Ahmadi's, Shia's, PPP workers and MQM workers who claimed political assylum in Europe, Australia and North America. It is a business and run by local mafia's in Pakistan and that nothing to do with sectarianism rather find better prospects in Western countries. I studied how those work and came to know that those peoples use many tactics. Use media to propagate against Govt. of Pakistan and claim persecution. Name those groups to whom West did not like (Change time to time). Create self made terrorism cases, propagate and make backing for cases. By paying bribes to police obtain fake copies of FIR's and represent them with asylum case. Local Pakistani media is also involved and some journaists are part of mafia. Hazara's are not Pakistani, those are Afghans and all of Hazara's must sent'back to Afghanistan like other Afghans. Hazara's living overseas are die heart against Pakistan and Western media used them against Pakistan. Their stringes are in the hands of Iranian Mullahs and still their headquarter of main Afghan Hazara political parties is situated at Iran. We have no problem what Hazara's are doing at Afghanistan but 80% NATO-ISAF translators are Hazara's and by any means those are trying to migrate. Current drama's of sectarian terrorism could be self fabricated like Ahmadi's, Agha Khanis and Shia's have been doing previously and many countries have stopped to consider them under persecution.
@ Ahemd Qureshi:
Please do not create confussion and conflict among people like the mafia establishment does. And do you know: What about those millions of borderless Pashtuns who are at the same time Pakistani and Afghan? What was the total population of Pashtuns in Karachi 15 years ago compared to today 3 million? What was the total Pashtun population in Balochistan and NWFP two decades ago? Why Baloch educated people are being kept away to have high level Government or Military services? Why Baloch activists or leaders being killed systemetically? Why Baloch poeple are intentionaly being kept deprived in Balochistan?
About the identity of this bomber. It is just another plotted drama by the mafia establishment. This same deadly drama is going on all over Balochistan and Karachi too. God knows what are the plannings of this mafia establishment?
This news is though true but it is incomplete, there could be several possibilities apart from the one that Mr Qureshi has mentioned in his hate comment. The fact that he had acquired 6 CNIC make the person not less than a terrorist. Without a doubt the person might have been one dangerous fellow, and he might have been associated to one those several anti development groups. How ever the person's purpose of carrying explosives remains unidentified. We cannot give any conclusion to this new development because it still is only a development. The authorities never before had gone so deep, investigating terror attacks on innocent civilians in the past and now that they have found a weak and tiny link of this terror plot to Shia they shamefully are revealing incomplete news which will create more hate for already discriminated minority Shia. The identification of this man as Shia should not divert our attaintion from the culprits who have already killed several hundreds in barbaric attacks. We cannot close our eyes to the fact that the killers are still moving freely, and are still planing further attacks and the authorities are deaf and blind on that. I also request Ahmed Qureshi to refrain from spreading hate and discrimination, you surly will not benefit for such evil act and if u have faith in Allah you should be afraid of the day of judgment. The person controlling this page must remove such hate comment. Hazaras already are going through grave and pain of losing many of their loved ones in the hand of terrorists.
Is it not a good thing if you give the professional job to the person who is talented, hard worker and sincere than to those who cant write his name in English and struggling with Urdu?
If a Hazaras for a particular job, then he/she should get job, if that person live in a civilized country. The Hazaras deserve to have good post because they work hard for it. Unlike some others they go to university to become a doctor..
Ahmed Qureshi - as per you statement:
"if 2.5 million refugees came from Afghannistan in 1979 and if today the Hazara polulation has only reached 300,000."
Let's take a deeper look into this:
This means that in 1979 (30 years ago) less than 80,000 Hazara refugees came from Afghanistan - apply 3-4% growth rate.
And this means that 2.4 million Afghan Pushtun refugees came to Pakistan?
Keeping in mind that today Australia has over 90,000 Hazara refugees then all of the Afghanistani refugees have left Pakistan whilst all Pushtun Afghans are still living in Pakistan illegally?
Time for the Afghan Pushtuns to go back to there country I would say!
I am very much opposed to what Mr. Qureish has claimed about Hazaras. I should say that Hazaras have proved to be civilized people. They have given their lives for Pakistan in its battles against India. Unfortunately, despite discrimination imposed on them by Pak government and local authorities in Balochistan, they make all their efforts to survive and co-exist peacefully with other hostile ethnic groups like Pusthoon and Baloch. Compare the Hazara neighborhoods with those of Pushtoons. Despite being poor, the Hazaras keep their environment clean and tidy. There is no or less garbage in their streets as compared to Kandahari bazaar that is owned by Pushtoons. The Shia culture is opposed to suicide. Never in the history of Shia can you find someone who may have killed innocent children and women through suicide attacks.
Noting can be said conclusively as the investigation is still under way - however,
We all know how people are kidnapped, drugged and used as bomb carriers with explosives strapped to their bodies. The initial reports were claiming that the bomber slipped - now the police are saying that the bomber was planting the bomb?
As far as Hazaras being refugees are concerend - everyone knows that Pushtun refugees from Afghanistan outnumber by a huge margin anyother ethnic group in Pakistan.
The so called 'few families' pre 1979 can be confirmed from the census. The legit Hazara population in Pakistan is now more than 600,000 - apply the growth rate and 4 decades - this number is not very surprising -
Also, if on the basis of merit Hazara and other settler groups are beating the Afghanistani Pushtuns than this should be appreciated that talented individuals are taking repsonsible positions in government.
Incomplete information! Shame! It's deplorable that ET did not come up with the whole truth. Today's local dailies of Quetta (Jang and Mashriq) tell you that this 'bomber' was kidnapped four months ago only to be used for whatever purpose.
@Ahmad Qureshi: Got to be one of the most nuttiest delusional conspiracies out there.
Please keep your anti-minority or anti-Hazara prejudice and resentment to yourself.
While the story has taken a bizarre twist and may have a different motive (or still the same motive, if he was brainwashed or kidnapped and strapped on), it by no means invalidates any of the other earlier massacres and discrimination, and other current realities, with the strong ample of proof and evidences behind it.
@Ahmad Qureshi, So you mean that now Hazaras are using a shia from Jafarabad( punjabi/sindhi Shia ) or Shia from all around Pakistan to kill Hazara ? So that hazaras could get assylem in Austrailia? Mr Ahmad Qureshi , how many Hazaras have you seen in local offices in Quetta compared to the ratio of Hazaras population/ hazaras Talent/ Hazara Education / Hazaras hard work to the rest of ethnicities of Quetta?
According to sources a large number of Hazara get Political Asylum in Australia mentioning the attacks and prosecution they face in Pakistan due to sectarian violence against their community, couple of months back Australian Govt started denying asylum to Hazara's in Australia, as a result they needed to create a havoc and ciaos, in order to get sampathies of international communities and relaxation in immigration procedure.
Hazara tribe was comprised of few dozen families in Quetta before 1979, after the soviet invasion of Afghanistan about 2.5 million afghan refugees migrated to pakistan and the Zia govt gave them freedom to move and live anywhere in Pakistan. Today the number of Hazara tribals has increased dramatically from few hundred to more than 300,000. who have not only acquired false CNIC but also joined Army, ISI and Civil services in a very planned fashion. most of the seats in medical and engineering colleges from quetta district which were previously owned by pashtoons are now taken by hazaras, the number local Pashtoons and balochs has dramatically decresed in govt office as most of the staff in govt office is comprised of these refugees from afghistan who had made illegal documents and are snatching the right to live for the local real inhabitants of Quetta.