The after-party: PML-N, PTI - the suggestive rhetoric begins

Published: October 31, 2011
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PTI chairman says his party will consider reconciliation with PML-N only if its chairman declares his real assets.  PHOTO: REUTERS/ FILE

PTI chairman says his party will consider reconciliation with PML-N only if its chairman declares his real assets. PHOTO: REUTERS/ FILE

ISLAMABAD /LAHORE: A day after the surprisingly large show put up by Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf (PTI) in Lahore on Sunday, Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) stressed that it is willing to work with all opposition parties to root out corruption – something that it insists cannot be done by a single political force.

For his part, Imran Khan, the leader of the PTI, has also said that he could consider entering into a dialogue with PML-N chief Nawaz Sharif if he declares his complete assets.

The statements by both parties indicate accelerating intrigue in Pakistan politics – particularly in its largest province, the Punjab.

“No single political party can steer the country out of crisis and if the opposition agrees on one point of saving the country, working together is a possibility,” Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, opposition leader in the National Assembly, said at a press conference in Islamabad on Monday. “We will also contact people from the original PPP, not for the sake of power but for Pakistan,” he said.

Nisar also sought to dismiss speculation that PML-N is panicking after PTI’s rally in Lahore, long considered the stronghold of his party. “We welcome Imran Khan but politics is not a T20 match. You cannot conquer Pakistan through one demonstration,” he said. However, he said, we have several questions for Imran and would like to know who finances his rallies.

Also, Nisar said, it is surprising that Imran had filed a case against Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain in the UK but had spared the party from criticism. He also criticised MQM’s pro-government rally, pointing out that some six months ago, Altaf was demanding that the president resign over corruption and now the party is expressing solidarity with Zardari.

Meanwhile, over in Lahore, encouraged by the incredible success of his party’s rally in Lahore, PTI chairperson Imran Khan invited ‘honest’ and “trapped” politicians from all political parties to join him.

“So many politicians are trapped in other parties but do not leave them for fear of their political future. They should leave and join the PTI,” Imran told reporters at Lahore’s Allama Iqbal International Airport before leaving for China on Monday.

There has been speculation that seasoned politicians, such as Pakistan Peoples Party’s Shah Mahmood Qureshi, are considering joining the PTI.

Talking about Sunday’s massive rally, he said that his people are a force which will destroy older political parties. “People will forget 1970 after seeing the unprecedented revolution that my people will bring in Pakistan,” he said.

(Read: The rise of Imran Khan)

Many of Imran’s critics have said that although PTI had managed to pull out a huge crowd of youngsters, it cannot be used as an indication of the party’s eventual success in the 2013 general elections because they might not vote.

“The Supreme Court has already ordered the Election Commission of Pakistan to register 3.5 million new voters. Due to social media, the young generation is aware of its right to vote and those who are under-age are asking their parents to register their votes,” Imran responded, reiterating that seeing the pervasive corruption, rising unemployment and lawlessness and the unavailability of water and electricity, the youth has decided to support him.

He said that he could consider entering into a dialogue with PML-N chief Nawaz Sharif if he declares his complete assets. He said that his party has set up a cell to collect details of politicians’ assets and as soon as they have enough material, they will move the SC and the ECP.

(WITH ADDITIONAL REPORTING BY QAMAR ZAMAN IN ISLAMABAD)

Published in The Express Tribune, November 1st, 2011.

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Reader Comments (111)

  • PP (Punjabi Pakistani)
    Oct 31, 2011 - 6:32PM

    When will PIT and Imran khan going to declare how much and who paid for expense for rally on 30th OCT?

    Yes, Mr. Nisar we all know Only PML-N is most innocent and well behaved party on earth.

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  • Majid Urrehman
    Oct 31, 2011 - 6:51PM

    PMLN is doing politics of principles. No need of IK.

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  • faraz
    Oct 31, 2011 - 6:54PM

    Reconciliation with PML-N would mean 2 ministries at most

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  • EnGinEer
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:02PM

    Imran Khan you dont need to reconciliate with PMLN….coz
    You are in Power whole Lahore is with you.
    Till the next election continue your full campaign and you will own whole PUNJAB.
    if you reconciliate whole purpose of your PTI is just another cheap politics like happening last 10-20 years.
    We Dont like PMLN/PPP thats why we(LAHORE) are with you.
    when you were week PMLN didn’t care about you..now you are stronger why should you.
    Be different and be unique.
    the only reason masses like you is You are against current Politicians and so does the masses.
    and above there is not a single Person like you in Pakistani Politics thats why …
    we see a Quaid e Azam and Bhuto in you.

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  • Mani
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:04PM

    @PP (Punjabi Pakistani):
    I’ve seen you post this crap on other articles as well. All PTI expenditure is audited and can be made available. In fact it is the only party to do so.Recommend

  • SUPERB
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:08PM

    I think this should not be a bigger demand and PMLN must consider it seriously otherwise their future is very bleak I guess.

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  • Kung
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:09PM

    Only Imran Khan can save Pakistan.

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  • Mir
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:21PM

    PTI should not ally with PML(N) this won’t change the corrupt system which runs down from chief secretary to peon, we need change of system not change of faces.

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  • Ali Tahir
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:23PM

    @PP
    Me and many fellow countrymen living abroad paid for arangements.
    I can assure you no transport was provided to any member, regional members of PTI paid from their own pockets.

    And we are not Zionists :)

    Its easy to criticize to put blame but
    really hard to give money for some
    cause.

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  • Oct 31, 2011 - 7:24PM

    lol @ MLN’s politics of principals.

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  • musa ghaznavi
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:26PM

    The agenda of both parties is same but Imran khan is working for it since 15 yaers…

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  • PP (Punjabi Pakistani)
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:27PM

    @ Jani Mani
    come to the point.
    NS and AAZ also say they are innocent … why Imran khan doesnot believe on them?
    So try to DO yourself first what you ASK others to do.

    By the way, if PTI expenditure is audited as you mentioned then it should not be a problem to publish the audit report.Recommend

  • iD
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:27PM

    I think it’s a smart move from IK. Since he knows that PMLN leadership will never declare their assets as this would be shooting in the foot. Foot that’s already been fractured by that huge jalsa…

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  • M Rahman
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:34PM

    @PP (Punjabi Pakistani): did you just wake up after a deep sleep or you are just new to these forums. We have discussed this issue thousands times and have set the records straight. But no problem, we will explain again and again as I strongly believe that you pose the question not get an answer but only to spread misinformation and doubts in ordinary folks’ minds. But hey, too little too late, this propoganda wont succeed…

    So here we go.. Read the press releases issued by PTI. Then on PTI’s website, do you see a big number of regular contributors. I am one of them. All of my family members living in Canada, and the US are regular pledge members of PTI. Our total monthly pledges is almost $400/month. Now I am not boasting mysekf, but for small minds like yours, it’s a very new phenomenon. But that’s how real political parties in all true democracy generate funds because these party leaders are not feudal lords nor they are corrupt wealthy industrialists like leaders you want us to follow.

    Further, if you bother to read the press releases, you will see even very recently, IK did a tour to USA, UK and UAE to raise funds for his party to BRING A CHANGE. On average he raised $65000 to $80,000 from each fund raising dinners. Get the idea where he got the money!

    Now I hope you won’t question our intention to support PTI and IK, as being Pakistani it’s our democratic right as much as it yours.

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  • M Rahman
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:36PM

    Don’t worry Faraz, they will never declare their looted assets. They are shameless and will continue to play dirty and cheap polictics.

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  • M Rahman
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:37PM

    @PP (Punjabi Pakistani): did you just wake up after a deep sleep or you are just new to these forums. We have discussed this issue thousands times and have set the records straight. But no problem, we will explain again and again as I strongly believe that you pose the question not get an answer but only to spread misinformation and doubts in ordinary folks’ minds. But hey, too little too late, this time you wont succeed…

    So here we go.. Read the press releases issued by PTI. Then on PTI’s website, do you see a big number of regular contributors. I am one of them. All of my family members living in Canada, and the US are regular pledge members of PTI. Our total monthly pledges is almost $400/month. Now I am not boasting, but for small minds like yours, it’s a very new phenomenon. But that’s how real political parties in all true democracy generate funds because these party leaders are not feudal lords nor they are corrupt wealthy industrialists.

    Further, if you bother to read the press release, you will see even very recently, IK did a tour to USA, UK and UAE to raise funds for his party to BRING A CHANGE. On average he raised $65000 to $80,000 from each fund raising dinners.

    Now I hope you won’t question our intention to support PTI and IK, as being Pakistani it’s our democratic right as much as it yours.

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  • Saad Ullah
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:42PM

    @pp paki
    im sure its well audited and PTI can never blame anyone so strongly if it has these type of issues!
    And this is a totally irrelevant matter, and u are ignoring a very big issue here! Tax evasion and corruption is a very big crime !! They are all enjoying on public’s funds! How can u deny that!! how can it be innocent!! Recommend

  • ubaidnaeem
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:44PM

    dony wory guys .. nothing like that going to happen because pml n is full of cowards. how can they declare there assets lol. IK is very shrew he just want you to show there faces .

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  • saeed
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:45PM

    Imran khan what ever you wants to do to save this country we are with you..If you can force these corrupt leaders to declare there assets and pay taxes properly and force them to think and feel for the nation as you do then this will be the biggest victory of all of us..Pakistanis thank ALLAH that he has given this kind of guy to Pakistan at this time of crisis…The good time of Pakistanis are nearing soon.

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  • Muddassir
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:47PM

    Folks, no need to worry. IK is not insane to merge with a party that has been ruling since 1985 but did absolutely nothing for the public. That’s why he used a genuine declaration of asset as a precondition for an alliance. Since they will never declare that, there will be no merger.

    Having said that, I admit that PMLN has some great brains that if used rightly can be big asset for any government. But in this family politics those people will have no chance to shine except defending the incompetence and corruption of their leaders in TV Talk shows…just see Nisar who unleashed his loyalty to his corrupt masters by expressing his disappointment from the people who really want a change for a better Pakistan.

    Chao.Recommend

  • Majid Urrehman
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:54PM

    @Natasha y lol?

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  • raja nisar
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:55PM

    In my openion!
    Good change is always good,intially its very hard to accept the
    Change but latter on every one adopt the change
    And yes change we need,
    Change not only faces but mentality alsoRecommend

  • Palvash von Hassell
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:57PM

    Pakistan is very lucky to have Imran. Vote for him, unless you want revolutions with violence and carnage as in the Arab countries.

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  • Gul Bahadur
    Oct 31, 2011 - 7:58PM

    Billions accumulated in less than two decades can’t be surrendered so easily.

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  • Aadersh
    Oct 31, 2011 - 8:00PM

    It’s not gonna happen…Nawaz can’t do that & for God sake Imran Khan we really don’t want reconciliation with PML-N

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  • PP (Punjabi Pakistani)
    Oct 31, 2011 - 8:00PM

    @ M Rahman @ Ali and @ all with big minds

    Just publish the audit report and stop writing the BIG stories.
    PTI website and press releases are not a reference.

    And learn to listen and answer the question without abusing some one.

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  • u_too
    Oct 31, 2011 - 8:11PM

    PTI reconciling with PML-N will be a very bad decision. We want Imran and Imran alone.

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  • Anum
    Oct 31, 2011 - 8:17PM

    Registration is still on for Voters. Contacted the Election Commission Pakistan. Last date 4th Nov 2011. Please register.

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  • PP (Punjabi Pakistani)
    Oct 31, 2011 - 8:18PM

    How a person can bring a change OR even claim to bring a change who accepts Main Ahzar, Zaheer Abas khokhar and shahid akram bindar (a few turncoats to name) to his honest party?
    Shame on munafiqat…
    Shamelessly but truly his supporters say “O Miya sab jaan dyo….Saadi wari aan dyo” Recommend

  • Jahangir Siddiqui
    Oct 31, 2011 - 8:20PM

    It is a big victory for Imran khan that he convinced big fish to consider PTI to enter main stream of politics.

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  • Beghariyiti
    Oct 31, 2011 - 8:24PM

    Another hilarious U turn from him. First he says PML-N is equally corrupt if not more than PPP and now he wants repraochment. He will do the same with PPP if PML does not respond positively. How can such a person who changes his basic ideloagy everyday be trusted to run the affairs of state.Recommend

  • ProPak
    Oct 31, 2011 - 8:29PM

    Imran Khan Zindabad ! Pakistan PaindabadRecommend

  • MarkH
    Oct 31, 2011 - 8:33PM

    It’s kind of pointless for supporters on either end to care. That reconciliation won’t happen under those conditions. At least not at this point if PML-N still holds hopes of success in any upcoming elections, and it’s quite clear they do, because it’s an undeniable and damaging sign of weakness. I’m not an Imran Khan fan, but I’m less of a fan of those two brothers due to their political style. I can easily bash the foundation of the claims Imran Khan makes. However, on a person-to-person character level, he comes off more as the type I’d maybe clash with from time to time in a work environment and at the same time someone I’d get along with and maybe even like “outside the office.” The way those brothers do things just makes it hard for me to like them from any angle and maybe even come close to despising them on a personal level.

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  • ENGR Mjahanzaib
    Oct 31, 2011 - 8:39PM

    Hai Engineer,

    IF Hazrat MUHAMMAD PBUH made a pact even with jews (Misaq e Madina) for the protection and safety of the city.

    WHy NAWAZ SHARIF & IMRAN KHAN should not unite for safety of this home land from Corrupt personalities?

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  • Usman
    Oct 31, 2011 - 8:44PM

    Imrans only deal is to blow up PML N right wing votes. Its already happening. So much money has been spent on recent chow of powers by PTI that no one can justify. Why dont they put the expences and income sources on the internet for the public to see where are these millions of rupees coming up?
    Are they our own tax payers money? as it has been done in the past?
    Imrans credibility is going down as much deep he is getting into politics. And i wonder by the time he come close to power there would be no difference between him or others. Recommend

  • karim
    Oct 31, 2011 - 8:55PM

    I would like to solo vote to IMRAN , if he reconsiles with any other party I will not vote to anybody

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  • kojack
    Oct 31, 2011 - 8:55PM

    “We have formulated a cell to collect information on PML-N’s assets and when we are ready, we will go to the Supreme Court and the Election Commission,” he said
    but why not investigating the assets of Mr.Zardari,altaf hussain and Army Generals.Becuase they are supporting imran khan for fighting against PMLN.Imran khan will become fool again in next election and zardari and his party will take advantage of it in next electon.

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  • Oct 31, 2011 - 8:59PM

    My bothers ,the seats of Lahore are not enough to make the Govt,,you should consider about whole the Pakistan .what condition of being famous of Imran Khan in whole the country ,how many seats of NA,(national Assembly ) are needed to make the government .and how many seats Imarn khan can win from the Punjab and Lahore ,,and how many seats are needed from Other three province ,,?? if you are sincere to PTI and Imran khan ,,you should about the seats which are needed to settle the government (wafaqi hakoomat ) and provincial governments ,,at once ,,PTI can not get all the Governments ,,I am against both the old parties PPP and PMLN and I am so much emotional to change the system ,in Politics ,,but still much and much is needed to do ,,please think again ,,

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  • ViSha
    Oct 31, 2011 - 9:01PM

    Pakistan Zindabad!
    With lots of duas for a positive change in Pakistan, I believe this move is in accordance with the way a politician’s course. As IK has learnt from his mini-project in Mianwali,

    Get the youth swell your numbers
    Small-time patwaris and ministers, MPAs and MNAs will follow – they are like weeds which will be removed overtime InshAllah..however, in this game called democracy, these are the rules you play by
    As the big guns loose power, they will try to follow the course of the above mentioned pawns

    As for those who call his resolve fickle and his move a U turn – please read the news item again and let me know if you would like a walk through.
    Reconciliation is conditional to declaration of assets.
    Provided this declaration happens, the ghairatmand jiyalas (for the lack of a better term), might resort to a self-reflection. The baighairat ones will remain where they are.
    Pakistan Zindabad!

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  • Ahmed Khan
    Oct 31, 2011 - 9:12PM

    I am really unable to understand peoples of my loving country. They start chanting slogans who ever impress them and started crying when they dont understand.

    Mian Nawaz Sharif is two time tested Prime minister and has good team of professionals like Sartaj Aziz, Ehsan Iqbal, Khawaja Asif, Ishaq Dar and most of it Shahbaz Sharif. They have given you very bravely Nuclear Assets, Motorway and many big project. If you peoples remember how many companies were registered in that small period of two three years. Quite a big number……

    Have good relationship with Turkey, Suadi Arabia, China and any European countries which is very much required for good foreign relationship.

    Imran need not to play in the hand of PPP and need to reconcile with PML (N) for bigger cause of country….

    Thanks

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  • Yasir Mehmood
    Oct 31, 2011 - 9:18PM

    yes nawaz should declare his assets.Recommend

  • Lone Star
    Oct 31, 2011 - 9:18PM

    Imran & PTI should not join or reconcile PMLN or any other party. He’s going to lose the left-leaning votes. People are supportive of him because he is against these corrupt parties…now he’s planning to become part of it????

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  • Think
    Oct 31, 2011 - 9:22PM

    @PP (Punjabi Pakistani):
    My friend have you noticed that you are the only one supporting PML-N on this forum. Think may be you are not the only smart one left in the world. May be other people have minds too. Think my friend think. Chaudhary Nisars response to Imran is totaly childish and off the target, which tells me how self centered PML-N is and thats why even after ruling multiple times they failed to deliver and instead built their up their estates. He disappointed me and lost a few sympathies that I still had for PML-N. But since you have the right of opinion.”Lagey Rahoo Munna Bhai” but keep in mind the change is knocking at your door, better let it in and give it a chance or else tell us a better alternative except PML, MqM, PPP, JUI, JI etc who have been eating the foundations of this country since their existance. Speech less???? right…..I knew it.

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  • Zaid
    Oct 31, 2011 - 9:29PM

    @PP (Punjabi Pakistani):
    Dear Punjabi Pakistani

    I will answer your question for that rally. You cannot make comparison for PMLN Rally which consist of government employees, Patwaris, School Teacher, etc but it was mostly consisted of youth who came on their own expenses. However, some were given transport expense as mostly students dont have enough money to reach these distances place.

    We being well off have to contribute and many like us have contributed to let that change happen from abroad.

    I hope I have answered your question.

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  • Zaid
    Oct 31, 2011 - 9:31PM

    @faraz:

    Those who think that PTI is still Tonga Party living in foolish paradise and I cant blame them. Probably that is their fate that ppl like Sharifs etc leading them from many decades. We cant have Mahatir, we cant have Irdigan, but we will definitely have Imran Khan…..Recommend

  • antanu g
    Oct 31, 2011 - 9:33PM

    whats wrong with the offer…u have to chose from availables. main thing is to keep a tight leash on politicians and IK can do it best

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  • Shabnam Khan
    Oct 31, 2011 - 9:46PM

    No doubt Imran is a honest person, but why he is collecting corrupt politicians around him.Recommend

  • Imran butt
    Oct 31, 2011 - 9:49PM

    we ordinary people is big voters of pml n but after watching Khan Jalsa I m sure that we r all wasting our times and resources now we and my friend circle are join PTI and always support Imran Khan thats is a real fact … Because such ko koi anch nai…

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  • Mango Man
    Oct 31, 2011 - 10:05PM

    Good Imran Khan. Now it’s Mian SB’s turn to show his assets if he really wants to save Pakistan and democracy. Please it’s request to PMLN and PTI to be united against corruption and for democracy. May Allah guide you…Recommend

  • Abu Arqam
    Oct 31, 2011 - 10:06PM

    Reconcilation not only PML(N) but also other parties those declare asset and get rid off slave from America

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  • goggi
    Oct 31, 2011 - 10:10PM

    Reconcilation with these leaders? I thought people want to demolish the very fundamental of the existing corrupt system and this man is ready to cook halal meat with pork…….bon appetito Pakistan!!!!!Recommend

  • white collar
    Oct 31, 2011 - 10:12PM

    If Imran tries to even think of reconciliation with PMLN his political carrier will be spoiled beyond repair and at the same time loose hundred of thousands of his fan.

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  • Oct 31, 2011 - 10:17PM

    @PP (Punjabi Pakistani):

    its so innocent question, but here is the valid answer:

    There are 2136 paid members of PTI, (im also going to be one soon).

    All of them pay minimum 10 $ per month in party fund. (10$ is minimum)

    lets suppose its 10$

    2136 x 10 = $21360 / per month
    which is PKR = 1815600 / per month

    So, this is truly funded by the party workers and the money is not looted.

    Thanks

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  • Oct 31, 2011 - 10:31PM

    @PP (Punjabi Pakistani):

    LOL Audit report for what ?? isn’t it obvious,

    PTI don’t have looted money, audit for what ??
    PTI never came in power, audit for what ??

    audit should for those who ruled the country, took the loans, looted the money. !!

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  • ASQ
    Oct 31, 2011 - 10:47PM

    OMG Mian Azhar gona bring revolution!!!!!!!!!!!! The day IK accepted Mian Azhar i left PTI.

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  • Punjabi Pakistani (PP)
    Oct 31, 2011 - 10:54PM

    namaz and songs (music) on the same one stage…
    only a inqalabi leader like imran khan could do… mean bring a change to every thing…
    By the way, what does Islam say about it?
    Or Islam is silent on this point ?

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  • Think Tank
    Oct 31, 2011 - 11:17PM

    @Imran butt:
    U got it good . welcome to PTI

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  • Punjabi Punjabi (PP)
    Oct 31, 2011 - 11:25PM

    @ Zaid

    I appreciate your contributions for PTI and good for you if you are well off.
    However, question remain the same,
    Where are the numbers on papers?
    Is this not what Imran khan asking from Corrupt politicians?

    As you sound a reasonable person, can you also explain to me.

    with main azhar, zaheer abbas khokhar, ijaz jazzi, main hamid miraj etc on his left and right…which kind of change imran khan talking about?
    and did imran khan ask list of their assets before letting them join pti?

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  • Punjabi Punjabi (PP)
    Oct 31, 2011 - 11:31PM

    @ think…
    please think…what made you think i am supporting pml-n ?
    I am just asking a question…
    where is the audit report of spending on pti rally or rallies, which held recently in 3 cities of punjab?

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  • akhtar
    Oct 31, 2011 - 11:57PM

    great show

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  • Nov 1, 2011 - 12:08AM

    Majir ud Rehman,

    Shouldnt be difficult for you to figure that out.

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  • Nov 1, 2011 - 12:18AM

    @PP (Punjabi Pakistani):
    Cowards, arrogant, Hypocrites and Jealous Turn is Over !!!!!!

    Now This is Time For Change and Time Of Imran Khan ….

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  • Blithe
    Nov 1, 2011 - 12:37AM

    The people of Punjab, especially Lahore,
    can potentially vote on ideas.

    Can the same be said about Karachi?
    Can Imran conceivably win a single seat from
    Karachi? Or is Karachi just going to be about
    race politics?

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  • Nov 1, 2011 - 12:49AM

    In a historic public gathering at Minar-e-Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chief Imran Khan has asked all the politicians of the country to declare their assets. This is a very appreciable demand from PTI Chief. It will also be good that when politicians declare their assets than a reputable intuition should check their assets as they are telling truth or still hiding their assets.
    But I also want to know the assets of Imran Khan and other Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf leaders. It will be appreciated if Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf declares the assets of their leaders and also National Tax Number (NTN) on a platform where everyone can easily access. Recommend

  • Bilal
    Nov 1, 2011 - 12:59AM

    I like PML(N) and PTI. but both fight. I m upset. I think Imran Starts fight with Shareef. Mere Khayal se Shareef Brothers Pakistan ke dushman nahi balkay wo Pakistan ko Neucleare power banane wale hain aur bikne wale nahi. I advice Imran Khan to stop fight with PML(n) make re-conciliation with PML(N) other wise PPP & MQM take advantage.

    in Karachi PTI cant do anything without help of any political party. Its up to PTI to decide fight or friendship.

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  • bukhari
    Nov 1, 2011 - 1:18AM

    Lol Imran Khan already looking for alliances. Tsunami?? PML-N would never accept Dengue Khan

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  • Aftab Kenneth Wilson
    Nov 1, 2011 - 1:30AM

    Mr. Imran Khan should not fall in the trap of PML-N. Sharifs or others will never declare their assets so keep them at your arms length. Net in some new faces or give a call to those who are not corrupt but are MNAs, MPAs and Senators of different political parties.

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  • JUNAID RIAZ
    Nov 1, 2011 - 1:44AM

    where is his stance against MQM leader and his party .previously for this he wants to sue him in british court .this was not in his mintopark speech ,issssssssss he bartered this with MQM leader altaf husain.Recommend

  • Junaid
    Nov 1, 2011 - 1:53AM

    I’m a Punjabi Pakistani and I support Imran Khan and dislike Nawaz Sharif. Nawaz already has his turn as leader and he did a horrible job. Benazir and Nawaz taking turns to rule Pakistan in the 90’s pushed Pakistan back atleast 50 years. Nawaz wants the same to happen this decade and we will never let that happen. We want prosperity. We want development. We want to use the natural resources Allah blessed our land with to produce electricity and wealth for the country. We want peace, no war. We want our society to be happy again. We want equality for all Pakistani citizens. Only Imran Khan can bring these changes for Pakistan. Enough is enough, we Pakistanis suffered so much in the hands of Nawaz Sharif, Asif Ali Zardari, and Musharraf. We want a leader who will put Pakistanis first, and not Americans. We dont want to kill our people for dollars. We want to exploit our coal, gas, copper, and oil to bring dollars. Imran Khan Zindabad. Pakistan Zindabad.

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  • Ris
    Nov 1, 2011 - 1:54AM

    @PP (Punjabi Pakistani):
    Dude, save yourself from embarrassment and just stop trolling. On a side note if you really were interested in the audit reports you would’ve already contact PTI through their website. Time is a precious thing so do everyone a favour and stop wasting ours.

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  • JUNAID RIAZ
    Nov 1, 2011 - 1:59AM

    PPPP, MQM, ANP, JUI, Jamat e Islami, PML Q , PML F, Establishment and a lot of more people only Targeting Nawaz Sharif……..; Nawaz Sharif is the only Leader who can target Zardari, MQM , ANP and PML Q, and he is only one person who can face Army chief’s and USA’s pressure , all other are kids of Establishment and ARMyRecommend

  • Majid Urrehman
    Nov 1, 2011 - 2:35AM

    @Natasha, I’ve tried my best but could not figure out. It will be so nice of you if you could help me in figuring it out.

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  • Majid Urrehman
    Nov 1, 2011 - 2:40AM

    @ASQ congratulations, this was the move which made me think too. Nevertheless welcome back to principled politics of pmln.

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  • Danish Kamal
    Nov 1, 2011 - 3:16AM

    Best luck for PTI and Pakistan – I just feel a hope for the better future of our generation.

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  • Realist.
    Nov 1, 2011 - 3:31AM

    @SANA:
    Imran Khan & his supporters are HIGHLY arrogant & a bit hypocrite & cowards too (remember zohair toru) ? :P
    you can ask any neutral person for it. :)

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  • tauseef31
    Nov 1, 2011 - 3:56AM

    I am waiting for the time when PTI, PML(N), PML(Q,A,…) and Jamat-e-Islami will fight against the coalition of PPP, ANP and MQM.

    It’ll be Right vs Left in the end.

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  • tauseef31
    Nov 1, 2011 - 4:10AM

    I’d want to know who financed the #PTI Oct 30th jalsa and what was the total amount spent? Let the “clean party” set an example.

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  • GB
    Nov 1, 2011 - 5:15AM

    B team of Army and C team of Bureaucracy will be seen together for another sinful alliance for further exploitation and religious fundamentalism.
    People of Pakistan should consider the outcome of the rightwing parties in Pakistan. This country has been ruled and destroyed by Military-Molvi Alliance and offspring of Military dictators.

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  • M.Akthar
    Nov 1, 2011 - 6:15AM

    IK calls PML (N) & PPP corrupt and is willing to reconcile with PML(N). He also reconciles with militant religious parties. So hes perfectly OK with Sectarian/Religious Militancy & also hes ok with Corruption. He`s fooling Pakistani public;Recommend

  • Think
    Nov 1, 2011 - 6:36AM

    @Punjabi Punjabi (PP):
    Ok now you are confusing me. You are not against Imran Khan but you wana know who financed his rally? Whats the point by the way…..?. And you are so stuck up with the issue that even after multiple people have told you that he had a big support from overseas Pakistani (which I have no doubts) and XYZ yet you still want it in black and white…..what is the point here? And by the way lets assume he is being sponsored by establishment or by his X-susral.or by any XYZ…Dude who cares????? Stop beating arround the bush. How many so called these pillars of democracy in Pakistan had issued audit reports on their expenditures???? PML-N and MQM recently held rallys did people ever asked them???? No…….why suddenly out of nowhere you woke up and thought Oh where the money is coming from?…..Point is my friend…look at the big picture…Zardari and Nawaz regimes need to go…with a hope that Imran(since there are no worth trying options left) may help Pakistan….if he fails we have nothing to lose since nothing can get any worse than where we stand today…..Imran has now turned into a PHENOMENON…..lets give him a chance….hope this will convience you. And by the way I apologize if anything that I wrote would have hurt you…since we both want Pakistan to be prosperous…but have different views.

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  • Qaisrani
    Nov 1, 2011 - 6:43AM

    Sharif brothers hate Saraikis and want to keep them slaves for ever.For Lahoris,he is like Khadim e Alla but for Saraikis in South,he is just like British Viceroy back in undivided India.They are racist.I will vote against PMLN.

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  • zalim singh
    Nov 1, 2011 - 6:52AM

    good combination.

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  • Saad
    Nov 1, 2011 - 6:55AM

    Well I am a big time PTI supporter, but if an alliance like this happens, I dont think IK can possibly do what he claims to do because having 2 ministries i Punjab wont change anything. Recommend

  • anybodyagree
    Nov 1, 2011 - 7:44AM

    “Imran Khan, the leader of the PTI, has also said that he could consider entering into a dialogue with PML-N”

    SO WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN … PTI…. PML…. & PPP…..??????

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  • anybodyagree
    Nov 1, 2011 - 7:48AM

    “He said that his party has set up a cell to collect details of politicians’ assets and as soon as they have enough material, they will move the SC and the ECP.”

    ITS NOT VERY EASY IMRAN BAHI, THEY ARE VERY CROOK PEOPLES…….!!!!!

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  • Not me
    Nov 1, 2011 - 7:53AM

    I think an alliance between PML-N and PTI is the way forward. They can in national interest agree on certain bare minimums on policy issues eg seek information from foreign treaty countries under Income tax avoidance of double taxation treaties about assets,bank accounts , investments held abroad by Pakistanis..As it is FBR should be seeking this information every year.This set-up will bring confidence in people and business.

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  • Ajnabi
    Nov 1, 2011 - 8:08AM

    @Punjabi Pakistani (PP):
    My dear these rallies do not cost that much. You mentioned the thousands of flyers he had in Gujranwala for that one event – do you realize that consumer good companies all around you are putting up thousands of fliers in every market in every city in the country – all year round? And it is still supposed to be a cheaper advertising method than TV commercials I have heard! To put the fliers for one single event is nothing.
    There are companies in Pakistan that have purely recreational company events that cost more than these rallies. They take hundreds of their employees for two or three days to Dubai or Thailand and all stay in four star hotels, all on company’s expense. It is just a minor cost to them. Don’t you think these companies are supporting IK? If such events are minor cost to them than what are these rallies.
    IK is supported by all the big money-makers in Pakistan, and there are dollars coming in from Pakistani doctors and engineers in US and elsewhere.
    But you are right, there absolutely should be an audit of PTI’s expenses. And PMLN’s expenses too of course. We should call for an audit of both.Recommend

  • Imran
    Nov 1, 2011 - 8:42AM

    If Imran Khan joins with PML-N, it would great idea. I wish them to be success in future endeavors and eradicate corruption from Pakistan for good

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  • Mubashir Amin
    Nov 1, 2011 - 9:06AM

    Pakistan is Not For Sale anymore. We Own it….. the so called Patriotic leaders must put their houses in order or prepare to exit… the Winds of Change are Blowing…. Imran shall Inshaallah Sweep the Next Elections… opponents beware!

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  • zia ur rehman
    Nov 1, 2011 - 10:08AM

    @PP (Punjabi Pakistani):
    sarcasm.?????

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  • kamran
    Nov 1, 2011 - 10:12AM

    @Think:
    Punjabi question in very clear how imran can do accountibility when he in his party gathering corrupt politician as punjabi mentioned.

    Sharif brother declared there assets u can check by the recent list prepare by Elcetion commission of pakistan.

    I think if imran and his party member declare there asset in jalsa it will create more opportunity of attracting new voter.

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  • Cynic
    Nov 1, 2011 - 10:17AM

    @ Punjabi Pakistani
    What is the difference between PTI publishing their audit report against you looking it up on their website? Will the paper it’s published on make the difference?
    And incidentally, what’s wrong with “Pakistani Pakistani”? :)

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  • kamran
    Nov 1, 2011 - 10:17AM

    Its not jalsa of PTI its all pakistan party convention all memebr from PTI come from different part of country all not belong to lahore or near to lahore thats why it seem huge crowd.

    If N-league call its all party worker convention from all over the country then space of minar e pakistan is very short please be realsitic

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  • Hassan
    Nov 1, 2011 - 10:19AM

    @makramwattoo.

    Only you make sense here. I don’t know why everyone’s NOT looking at the big picture here. If Imran Khan wants to win big, its about time he should introduce some known party followers to the scene. One man party can win hearts of people but defies voting logic.

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  • starboy
    Nov 1, 2011 - 10:54AM

    It is impossible for PML(n) to declare its billions of dollars worth assets abroad. So it is impossible for PTI to work with PML(n). Smart move by Imran Khan.

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  • RP
    Nov 1, 2011 - 10:59AM

    Can somebody please post a link to Imran Khan’s declared assets.
    I have been looking for it but could not find.

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  • Nov 1, 2011 - 11:45AM

    You can view PTI’s audit reports by simply using google search. I have found quite a few links for your kind consideration. Click each link available at the following URL

    http://www.google.com.pk/search?q=pakistan+tehreek-e-insaf+audit+report&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

    For PTI’ to upload each individual rally’s audit report is a bit hard I suppose but I will try to ask officials to make your wish come true. Even if they agree to put it up, it may take a bit of time to get an audit done and get published online. In case you didn’t know, PTI gets it audit done through a professional firm and it takes time as well as money. Hope you can understand and hope the details including the URL links satisfy your justified curiosity.

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  • gp65
    Nov 1, 2011 - 11:50AM

    @Yasir Mehmood:
    “yes nawaz should declare his assets”.

    Actually he has already done so. Imran knows this so it is disngenuous to make this a condition.

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  • Zaman khan
    Nov 1, 2011 - 12:58PM

    Imran Khan has set the tone for the change . Those who are worried about the no of seats his party can muster in next election should not bother their mind too much. It was the first huge pulbic gathering. Now all Jialas and Matwalas must hold their breath when IK and his party is going to hold such gatherings in Peshawar , Abbotabad , Pindi, Faisalabad , Gujranwala, Multan , Quetta and Karachi and many other cities they would get the answer to all their questions and queiries. InshaALLAH the wind of change has started blowing and now it is a matter of few months or maximum one year. Recommend

  • Nov 1, 2011 - 1:07PM

    Imran Khan is surely coming but he has still long way to go to oust PPP and N from Punjab, If he wins 60 percent in Punjab and KPK he would be in a great position to implement his agenda…..

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  • ZAFAROOQI
    Nov 1, 2011 - 2:49PM

    Lahore, the epic center of Pakistan’s Politics has given its verdict Loud and Clear on the fateful day of reckoning October 30 2011

    Thumbs up for Change; Time up for corrupt mafia!

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  • Fasih Ali Khan
    Nov 1, 2011 - 2:49PM

    Collation with PML(N) means killing the trust of Millions of Supporters, Be careful Imran !!!

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  • Khan
    Nov 1, 2011 - 3:05PM

    Every thing is possible in Pakistani Politics but it is better for Imran Khan to go with Jamat Isalami and other nationalist in others provinces.. PML N record is also not good but not worst then PPP so Imran Khan should be careful because He is leaders of Young and energitic youths..

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  • Nov 1, 2011 - 3:28PM

    @PP (Punjabi Pakistani):
    When was the last time you heard of a fund raising event for the PPP or PMLN?

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  • Parvez
    Nov 1, 2011 - 4:45PM

    All politics and more so Pakistani politics is about alliances, compromises and strategy.
    The PTI is doing the right thing by talking with other parties.

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  • correct option
    Nov 1, 2011 - 6:05PM

    Nisar Sahab,

    WE paid for it…you wouldn’t know what having supporters who are willing to do that means…for I doubt anyone will give you or your party a penny after you pocketed billions from the ‘karz utaro, mulk sawaro’ scheme.

    Na karza utra, na mulk sanwra, but your ‘leaders’ definitely ran away with all our money!

    Return our money first before you speak, please!

    Thanks!

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  • shaukat
    Nov 1, 2011 - 8:27PM

    @Usman:
    we dont care from where ik is getting money from as long as he is spending it for the betterment of this country, for that the bigest example is shaukat khanum hospital, openup your mind my dear bro.

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  • Omer Ahmed
    Nov 2, 2011 - 3:31AM

    PTI has already started corruption

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  • starboy
    Nov 2, 2011 - 4:28AM

    Imran will never work with corrupt pml (n).

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  • Nov 2, 2011 - 3:11PM

    IMRAN said “agar nawaz sharif assets declare karein sahee wali (jo mulk se bahir hein wo bhee) to n.league se ithaad ka socha ja skta ha.”
    MR. NAWAZ SHARIF WILL never ever declare his assets which are abroad
    so THE GREAT KHAN will never do ‘ithad’ with nawaz or zardari.Recommend

  • master mind
    Nov 3, 2011 - 9:27AM

    to challenge the statuesque,a change is must,imran alongwith like minded people should get a chance to prove his worth. at least we will see a new face in our politics and ice of traditional politics of Pakistan which is based on community and tribe system would melt……We must remember that change is always better.

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