For his part, Imran Khan, the leader of the PTI, has also said that he could consider entering into a dialogue with PML-N chief Nawaz Sharif if he declares his complete assets.
The statements by both parties indicate accelerating intrigue in Pakistan politics – particularly in its largest province, the Punjab.
“No single political party can steer the country out of crisis and if the opposition agrees on one point of saving the country, working together is a possibility,” Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, opposition leader in the National Assembly, said at a press conference in Islamabad on Monday. “We will also contact people from the original PPP, not for the sake of power but for Pakistan,” he said.
Nisar also sought to dismiss speculation that PML-N is panicking after PTI’s rally in Lahore, long considered the stronghold of his party. “We welcome Imran Khan but politics is not a T20 match. You cannot conquer Pakistan through one demonstration,” he said. However, he said, we have several questions for Imran and would like to know who finances his rallies.
Also, Nisar said, it is surprising that Imran had filed a case against Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain in the UK but had spared the party from criticism. He also criticised MQM’s pro-government rally, pointing out that some six months ago, Altaf was demanding that the president resign over corruption and now the party is expressing solidarity with Zardari.
Meanwhile, over in Lahore, encouraged by the incredible success of his party’s rally in Lahore, PTI chairperson Imran Khan invited ‘honest’ and “trapped” politicians from all political parties to join him.
“So many politicians are trapped in other parties but do not leave them for fear of their political future. They should leave and join the PTI,” Imran told reporters at Lahore’s Allama Iqbal International Airport before leaving for China on Monday.
There has been speculation that seasoned politicians, such as Pakistan Peoples Party’s Shah Mahmood Qureshi, are considering joining the PTI.
Talking about Sunday’s massive rally, he said that his people are a force which will destroy older political parties. “People will forget 1970 after seeing the unprecedented revolution that my people will bring in Pakistan,” he said.
(Read: The rise of Imran Khan)
Many of Imran’s critics have said that although PTI had managed to pull out a huge crowd of youngsters, it cannot be used as an indication of the party’s eventual success in the 2013 general elections because they might not vote.
“The Supreme Court has already ordered the Election Commission of Pakistan to register 3.5 million new voters. Due to social media, the young generation is aware of its right to vote and those who are under-age are asking their parents to register their votes,” Imran responded, reiterating that seeing the pervasive corruption, rising unemployment and lawlessness and the unavailability of water and electricity, the youth has decided to support him.
He said that he could consider entering into a dialogue with PML-N chief Nawaz Sharif if he declares his complete assets. He said that his party has set up a cell to collect details of politicians’ assets and as soon as they have enough material, they will move the SC and the ECP.
(WITH ADDITIONAL REPORTING BY QAMAR ZAMAN IN ISLAMABAD)
Published in The Express Tribune, November 1st, 2011.
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to challenge the statuesque,a change is must,imran alongwith like minded people should get a chance to prove his worth. at least we will see a new face in our politics and ice of traditional politics of Pakistan which is based on community and tribe system would melt......We must remember that change is always better.
Imran will never work with corrupt pml (n).
PTI has already started corruption
@Usman: we dont care from where ik is getting money from as long as he is spending it for the betterment of this country, for that the bigest example is shaukat khanum hospital, openup your mind my dear bro.
Nisar Sahab,
WE paid for it...you wouldn't know what having supporters who are willing to do that means...for I doubt anyone will give you or your party a penny after you pocketed billions from the 'karz utaro, mulk sawaro' scheme.
Na karza utra, na mulk sanwra, but your 'leaders' definitely ran away with all our money!
Return our money first before you speak, please!
Thanks!
All politics and more so Pakistani politics is about alliances, compromises and strategy. The PTI is doing the right thing by talking with other parties.
@PP (Punjabi Pakistani): When was the last time you heard of a fund raising event for the PPP or PMLN?
Every thing is possible in Pakistani Politics but it is better for Imran Khan to go with Jamat Isalami and other nationalist in others provinces.. PML N record is also not good but not worst then PPP so Imran Khan should be careful because He is leaders of Young and energitic youths..
Collation with PML(N) means killing the trust of Millions of Supporters, Be careful Imran !!!
Lahore, the epic center of Pakistan's Politics has given its verdict Loud and Clear on the fateful day of reckoning October 30 2011
Thumbs up for Change; Time up for corrupt mafia!
Imran Khan is surely coming but he has still long way to go to oust PPP and N from Punjab, If he wins 60 percent in Punjab and KPK he would be in a great position to implement his agenda.....
@Yasir Mehmood: "yes nawaz should declare his assets".
Actually he has already done so. Imran knows this so it is disngenuous to make this a condition.
You can view PTI's audit reports by simply using google search. I have found quite a few links for your kind consideration. Click each link available at the following URL
http://www.google.com.pk/search?q=pakistan+tehreek-e-insaf+audit+report&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
For PTI' to upload each individual rally's audit report is a bit hard I suppose but I will try to ask officials to make your wish come true. Even if they agree to put it up, it may take a bit of time to get an audit done and get published online. In case you didn't know, PTI gets it audit done through a professional firm and it takes time as well as money. Hope you can understand and hope the details including the URL links satisfy your justified curiosity.
Can somebody please post a link to Imran Khan's declared assets. I have been looking for it but could not find.
It is impossible for PML(n) to declare its billions of dollars worth assets abroad. So it is impossible for PTI to work with PML(n). Smart move by Imran Khan.
@makramwattoo.
Only you make sense here. I don't know why everyone's NOT looking at the big picture here. If Imran Khan wants to win big, its about time he should introduce some known party followers to the scene. One man party can win hearts of people but defies voting logic.
Its not jalsa of PTI its all pakistan party convention all memebr from PTI come from different part of country all not belong to lahore or near to lahore thats why it seem huge crowd.
If N-league call its all party worker convention from all over the country then space of minar e pakistan is very short please be realsitic
@ Punjabi Pakistani What is the difference between PTI publishing their audit report against you looking it up on their website? Will the paper it's published on make the difference? And incidentally, what's wrong with "Pakistani Pakistani"? :)
@Think: Punjabi question in very clear how imran can do accountibility when he in his party gathering corrupt politician as punjabi mentioned.
Sharif brother declared there assets u can check by the recent list prepare by Elcetion commission of pakistan.
I think if imran and his party member declare there asset in jalsa it will create more opportunity of attracting new voter.
@PP (Punjabi Pakistani): sarcasm.?????
Pakistan is Not For Sale anymore. We Own it..... the so called Patriotic leaders must put their houses in order or prepare to exit... the Winds of Change are Blowing.... Imran shall Inshaallah Sweep the Next Elections... opponents beware!
I think an alliance between PML-N and PTI is the way forward. They can in national interest agree on certain bare minimums on policy issues eg seek information from foreign treaty countries under Income tax avoidance of double taxation treaties about assets,bank accounts , investments held abroad by Pakistanis..As it is FBR should be seeking this information every year.This set-up will bring confidence in people and business.
"He said that his party has set up a cell to collect details of politicians’ assets and as soon as they have enough material, they will move the SC and the ECP."
ITS NOT VERY EASY IMRAN BAHI, THEY ARE VERY CROOK PEOPLES.......!!!!!
"Imran Khan, the leader of the PTI, has also said that he could consider entering into a dialogue with PML-N"
SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ... PTI.... PML.... & PPP.....??????
good combination.
Sharif brothers hate Saraikis and want to keep them slaves for ever.For Lahoris,he is like Khadim e Alla but for Saraikis in South,he is just like British Viceroy back in undivided India.They are racist.I will vote against PMLN.
@Punjabi Punjabi (PP): Ok now you are confusing me. You are not against Imran Khan but you wana know who financed his rally? Whats the point by the way.....?. And you are so stuck up with the issue that even after multiple people have told you that he had a big support from overseas Pakistani (which I have no doubts) and XYZ yet you still want it in black and white.....what is the point here? And by the way lets assume he is being sponsored by establishment or by his X-susral.or by any XYZ...Dude who cares????? Stop beating arround the bush. How many so called these pillars of democracy in Pakistan had issued audit reports on their expenditures???? PML-N and MQM recently held rallys did people ever asked them???? No.......why suddenly out of nowhere you woke up and thought Oh where the money is coming from?.....Point is my friend...look at the big picture...Zardari and Nawaz regimes need to go...with a hope that Imran(since there are no worth trying options left) may help Pakistan....if he fails we have nothing to lose since nothing can get any worse than where we stand today.....Imran has now turned into a PHENOMENON.....lets give him a chance....hope this will convience you. And by the way I apologize if anything that I wrote would have hurt you...since we both want Pakistan to be prosperous...but have different views.
B team of Army and C team of Bureaucracy will be seen together for another sinful alliance for further exploitation and religious fundamentalism. People of Pakistan should consider the outcome of the rightwing parties in Pakistan. This country has been ruled and destroyed by Military-Molvi Alliance and offspring of Military dictators.
I'd want to know who financed the #PTI Oct 30th jalsa and what was the total amount spent? Let the "clean party" set an example.
I am waiting for the time when PTI, PML(N), PML(Q,A,...) and Jamat-e-Islami will fight against the coalition of PPP, ANP and MQM.
It'll be Right vs Left in the end.
@SANA: Imran Khan & his supporters are HIGHLY arrogant & a bit hypocrite & cowards too (remember zohair toru) ? :P you can ask any neutral person for it. :)
Best luck for PTI and Pakistan - I just feel a hope for the better future of our generation.
@ASQ congratulations, this was the move which made me think too. Nevertheless welcome back to principled politics of pmln.
@Natasha, I've tried my best but could not figure out. It will be so nice of you if you could help me in figuring it out.
@PP (Punjabi Pakistani): Dude, save yourself from embarrassment and just stop trolling. On a side note if you really were interested in the audit reports you would've already contact PTI through their website. Time is a precious thing so do everyone a favour and stop wasting ours.
I'm a Punjabi Pakistani and I support Imran Khan and dislike Nawaz Sharif. Nawaz already has his turn as leader and he did a horrible job. Benazir and Nawaz taking turns to rule Pakistan in the 90's pushed Pakistan back atleast 50 years. Nawaz wants the same to happen this decade and we will never let that happen. We want prosperity. We want development. We want to use the natural resources Allah blessed our land with to produce electricity and wealth for the country. We want peace, no war. We want our society to be happy again. We want equality for all Pakistani citizens. Only Imran Khan can bring these changes for Pakistan. Enough is enough, we Pakistanis suffered so much in the hands of Nawaz Sharif, Asif Ali Zardari, and Musharraf. We want a leader who will put Pakistanis first, and not Americans. We dont want to kill our people for dollars. We want to exploit our coal, gas, copper, and oil to bring dollars. Imran Khan Zindabad. Pakistan Zindabad.
Mr. Imran Khan should not fall in the trap of PML-N. Sharifs or others will never declare their assets so keep them at your arms length. Net in some new faces or give a call to those who are not corrupt but are MNAs, MPAs and Senators of different political parties.
Lol Imran Khan already looking for alliances. Tsunami?? PML-N would never accept Dengue Khan
I like PML(N) and PTI. but both fight. I m upset. I think Imran Starts fight with Shareef. Mere Khayal se Shareef Brothers Pakistan ke dushman nahi balkay wo Pakistan ko Neucleare power banane wale hain aur bikne wale nahi. I advice Imran Khan to stop fight with PML(n) make re-conciliation with PML(N) other wise PPP & MQM take advantage.
in Karachi PTI cant do anything without help of any political party. Its up to PTI to decide fight or friendship.
The people of Punjab, especially Lahore, can potentially vote on ideas.
Can the same be said about Karachi? Can Imran conceivably win a single seat from Karachi? Or is Karachi just going to be about race politics?
@PP (Punjabi Pakistani): Cowards, arrogant, Hypocrites and Jealous Turn is Over !!!!!!
Now This is Time For Change and Time Of Imran Khan ....
Majir ud Rehman,
Shouldnt be difficult for you to figure that out.
great show
@ think... please think...what made you think i am supporting pml-n ? I am just asking a question... where is the audit report of spending on pti rally or rallies, which held recently in 3 cities of punjab?
@ Zaid
I appreciate your contributions for PTI and good for you if you are well off. However, question remain the same, Where are the numbers on papers? Is this not what Imran khan asking from Corrupt politicians?
As you sound a reasonable person, can you also explain to me.
with main azhar, zaheer abbas khokhar, ijaz jazzi, main hamid miraj etc on his left and right...which kind of change imran khan talking about? and did imran khan ask list of their assets before letting them join pti?
@Imran butt: U got it good . welcome to PTI
namaz and songs (music) on the same one stage... only a inqalabi leader like imran khan could do... mean bring a change to every thing... By the way, what does Islam say about it? Or Islam is silent on this point ?
OMG Mian Azhar gona bring revolution!!!!!!!!!!!! The day IK accepted Mian Azhar i left PTI.
@PP (Punjabi Pakistani):
its so innocent question, but here is the valid answer:
There are 2136 paid members of PTI, (im also going to be one soon).
All of them pay minimum 10 $ per month in party fund. (10$ is minimum)
lets suppose its 10$
2136 x 10 = $21360 / per month which is PKR = 1815600 / per month
So, this is truly funded by the party workers and the money is not looted.
Thanks
If Imran tries to even think of reconciliation with PMLN his political carrier will be spoiled beyond repair and at the same time loose hundred of thousands of his fan.
Reconcilation not only PML(N) but also other parties those declare asset and get rid off slave from America
we ordinary people is big voters of pml n but after watching Khan Jalsa I m sure that we r all wasting our times and resources now we and my friend circle are join PTI and always support Imran Khan thats is a real fact ... Because such ko koi anch nai...
whats wrong with the offer...u have to chose from availables. main thing is to keep a tight leash on politicians and IK can do it best
@PP (Punjabi Pakistani): Dear Punjabi Pakistani
I will answer your question for that rally. You cannot make comparison for PMLN Rally which consist of government employees, Patwaris, School Teacher, etc but it was mostly consisted of youth who came on their own expenses. However, some were given transport expense as mostly students dont have enough money to reach these distances place. We being well off have to contribute and many like us have contributed to let that change happen from abroad.
I hope I have answered your question.
@PP (Punjabi Pakistani): My friend have you noticed that you are the only one supporting PML-N on this forum. Think may be you are not the only smart one left in the world. May be other people have minds too. Think my friend think. Chaudhary Nisars response to Imran is totaly childish and off the target, which tells me how self centered PML-N is and thats why even after ruling multiple times they failed to deliver and instead built their up their estates. He disappointed me and lost a few sympathies that I still had for PML-N. But since you have the right of opinion."Lagey Rahoo Munna Bhai" but keep in mind the change is knocking at your door, better let it in and give it a chance or else tell us a better alternative except PML, MqM, PPP, JUI, JI etc who have been eating the foundations of this country since their existance. Speech less???? right.....I knew it.
Imran & PTI should not join or reconcile PMLN or any other party. He's going to lose the left-leaning votes. People are supportive of him because he is against these corrupt parties...now he's planning to become part of it????
I am really unable to understand peoples of my loving country. They start chanting slogans who ever impress them and started crying when they dont understand.
Mian Nawaz Sharif is two time tested Prime minister and has good team of professionals like Sartaj Aziz, Ehsan Iqbal, Khawaja Asif, Ishaq Dar and most of it Shahbaz Sharif. They have given you very bravely Nuclear Assets, Motorway and many big project. If you peoples remember how many companies were registered in that small period of two three years. Quite a big number......
Have good relationship with Turkey, Suadi Arabia, China and any European countries which is very much required for good foreign relationship.
Imran need not to play in the hand of PPP and need to reconcile with PML (N) for bigger cause of country....
Thanks
Pakistan Zindabad! With lots of duas for a positive change in Pakistan, I believe this move is in accordance with the way a politician's course. As IK has learnt from his mini-project in Mianwali,
Get the youth swell your numbers Small-time patwaris and ministers, MPAs and MNAs will follow - they are like weeds which will be removed overtime InshAllah..however, in this game called democracy, these are the rules you play by As the big guns loose power, they will try to follow the course of the above mentioned pawnsAs for those who call his resolve fickle and his move a U turn - please read the news item again and let me know if you would like a walk through. Reconciliation is conditional to declaration of assets. Provided this declaration happens, the ghairatmand jiyalas (for the lack of a better term), might resort to a self-reflection. The baighairat ones will remain where they are. Pakistan Zindabad!
My bothers ,the seats of Lahore are not enough to make the Govt,,you should consider about whole the Pakistan .what condition of being famous of Imran Khan in whole the country ,how many seats of NA,(national Assembly ) are needed to make the government .and how many seats Imarn khan can win from the Punjab and Lahore ,,and how many seats are needed from Other three province ,,?? if you are sincere to PTI and Imran khan ,,you should about the seats which are needed to settle the government (wafaqi hakoomat ) and provincial governments ,,at once ,,PTI can not get all the Governments ,,I am against both the old parties PPP and PMLN and I am so much emotional to change the system ,in Politics ,,but still much and much is needed to do ,,please think again ,,
“We have formulated a cell to collect information on PML-N’s assets and when we are ready, we will go to the Supreme Court and the Election Commission,” he said but why not investigating the assets of Mr.Zardari,altaf hussain and Army Generals.Becuase they are supporting imran khan for fighting against PMLN.Imran khan will become fool again in next election and zardari and his party will take advantage of it in next electon.
I would like to solo vote to IMRAN , if he reconsiles with any other party I will not vote to anybody
Hai Engineer,
IF Hazrat MUHAMMAD PBUH made a pact even with jews (Misaq e Madina) for the protection and safety of the city.
WHy NAWAZ SHARIF & IMRAN KHAN should not unite for safety of this home land from Corrupt personalities?
It's kind of pointless for supporters on either end to care. That reconciliation won't happen under those conditions. At least not at this point if PML-N still holds hopes of success in any upcoming elections, and it's quite clear they do, because it's an undeniable and damaging sign of weakness. I'm not an Imran Khan fan, but I'm less of a fan of those two brothers due to their political style. I can easily bash the foundation of the claims Imran Khan makes. However, on a person-to-person character level, he comes off more as the type I'd maybe clash with from time to time in a work environment and at the same time someone I'd get along with and maybe even like "outside the office." The way those brothers do things just makes it hard for me to like them from any angle and maybe even come close to despising them on a personal level.
It is a big victory for Imran khan that he convinced big fish to consider PTI to enter main stream of politics.
Registration is still on for Voters. Contacted the Election Commission Pakistan. Last date 4th Nov 2011. Please register.
PTI reconciling with PML-N will be a very bad decision. We want Imran and Imran alone.
@ M Rahman @ Ali and @ all with big minds
Just publish the audit report and stop writing the BIG stories. PTI website and press releases are not a reference.
And learn to listen and answer the question without abusing some one.
It's not gonna happen...Nawaz can't do that & for God sake Imran Khan we really don't want reconciliation with PML-N
Billions accumulated in less than two decades can't be surrendered so easily.
Pakistan is very lucky to have Imran. Vote for him, unless you want revolutions with violence and carnage as in the Arab countries.
@Natasha y lol?
Imran khan what ever you wants to do to save this country we are with you..If you can force these corrupt leaders to declare there assets and pay taxes properly and force them to think and feel for the nation as you do then this will be the biggest victory of all of us..Pakistanis thank ALLAH that he has given this kind of guy to Pakistan at this time of crisis...The good time of Pakistanis are nearing soon.
dony wory guys .. nothing like that going to happen because pml n is full of cowards. how can they declare there assets lol. IK is very shrew he just want you to show there faces .
@PP (Punjabi Pakistani): did you just wake up after a deep sleep or you are just new to these forums. We have discussed this issue thousands times and have set the records straight. But no problem, we will explain again and again as I strongly believe that you pose the question not get an answer but only to spread misinformation and doubts in ordinary folks’ minds. But hey, too little too late, this time you wont succeed...
So here we go.. Read the press releases issued by PTI. Then on PTI's website, do you see a big number of regular contributors. I am one of them. All of my family members living in Canada, and the US are regular pledge members of PTI. Our total monthly pledges is almost $400/month. Now I am not boasting, but for small minds like yours, it's a very new phenomenon. But that's how real political parties in all true democracy generate funds because these party leaders are not feudal lords nor they are corrupt wealthy industrialists.
Further, if you bother to read the press release, you will see even very recently, IK did a tour to USA, UK and UAE to raise funds for his party to BRING A CHANGE. On average he raised $65000 to $80,000 from each fund raising dinners.
Now I hope you won’t question our intention to support PTI and IK, as being Pakistani it’s our democratic right as much as it yours.
Don't worry Faraz, they will never declare their looted assets. They are shameless and will continue to play dirty and cheap polictics.
@PP (Punjabi Pakistani): did you just wake up after a deep sleep or you are just new to these forums. We have discussed this issue thousands times and have set the records straight. But no problem, we will explain again and again as I strongly believe that you pose the question not get an answer but only to spread misinformation and doubts in ordinary folks’ minds. But hey, too little too late, this propoganda wont succeed...
So here we go.. Read the press releases issued by PTI. Then on PTI's website, do you see a big number of regular contributors. I am one of them. All of my family members living in Canada, and the US are regular pledge members of PTI. Our total monthly pledges is almost $400/month. Now I am not boasting mysekf, but for small minds like yours, it's a very new phenomenon. But that's how real political parties in all true democracy generate funds because these party leaders are not feudal lords nor they are corrupt wealthy industrialists like leaders you want us to follow.
Further, if you bother to read the press releases, you will see even very recently, IK did a tour to USA, UK and UAE to raise funds for his party to BRING A CHANGE. On average he raised $65000 to $80,000 from each fund raising dinners. Get the idea where he got the money!
Now I hope you won’t question our intention to support PTI and IK, as being Pakistani it’s our democratic right as much as it yours.
I think it's a smart move from IK. Since he knows that PMLN leadership will never declare their assets as this would be shooting in the foot. Foot that's already been fractured by that huge jalsa...
The agenda of both parties is same but Imran khan is working for it since 15 yaers...
lol @ MLN's politics of principals.
@PP Me and many fellow countrymen living abroad paid for arangements. I can assure you no transport was provided to any member, regional members of PTI paid from their own pockets.
And we are not Zionists :)
PTI should not ally with PML(N) this won't change the corrupt system which runs down from chief secretary to peon, we need change of system not change of faces.
Only Imran Khan can save Pakistan.
I think this should not be a bigger demand and PMLN must consider it seriously otherwise their future is very bleak I guess.
Imran Khan you dont need to reconciliate with PMLN....coz You are in Power whole Lahore is with you. Till the next election continue your full campaign and you will own whole PUNJAB. if you reconciliate whole purpose of your PTI is just another cheap politics like happening last 10-20 years. We Dont like PMLN/PPP thats why we(LAHORE) are with you. when you were week PMLN didn't care about you..now you are stronger why should you. Be different and be unique. the only reason masses like you is You are against current Politicians and so does the masses. and above there is not a single Person like you in Pakistani Politics thats why ... we see a Quaid e Azam and Bhuto in you.
Reconciliation with PML-N would mean 2 ministries at most
PMLN is doing politics of principles. No need of IK.
When will PIT and Imran khan going to declare how much and who paid for expense for rally on 30th OCT?
Yes, Mr. Nisar we all know Only PML-N is most innocent and well behaved party on earth.