IPL says no to Pakistan third year running
IPL's newly appointed chairman Rajiv Shukla had earlier said that it will be up to the franchises to take a decision on Pakistan players whether to buy them or not.
Eleven Pakistani players were in the auction list for IPL’s third season in 2010, but none of them were picked up by any of the franchises. Uncertainty over diplomatic relations between the two countries, and hence the availability of the Pakistani players, was cited as the main issue by some franchises.
“This decision has to be taken by the Governing Council. It is not that Pakistan as a country has been banned in IPL,” Shukla had said ahead of the meeting.
“Their (Pakistani) referees’ services have been utilized. Some franchises have taken Pakistani former players as coaches also and supporting staff as well. So it is not that Pakistan as a whole has been banned or something. There is no question of banning anyone.”
However, he had insisted the final decision of picking up the Pakistani players remained with the franchises.
Today, the council upheld the decision to exclude Pakistani players for the third consecutive year.
Earlier this year, Shahid Afridi had called for the inclusion of Pakistani players in the Indian Premier League (IPL).
Speaking to the Press Trust of India, Afridi had said that Pakistani players had no problems with playing in India as they had just played a match in the country.
“It is high time Pakistani cricketers also get a place in the IPL. For three seasons, including the current one, we haven’t been a part of the IPL,” said the Pakistan captain.
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guys its all business and has nothing to do with anti-pak sentiments ...recently the force india team of formula 1 didn't select karun chandiok to drive, rather selected a foreigner to go for the action and represent india ...while narain kartikeyan was representing a foreign team on indian soil ..so sports like ipl or formula one have nothing to do with nationality ..its money honey !!
personally i am not a big fan of ipl, but i think that pak players should not clamour much if they feel they aren't getting a chance, moreover, if wasim akram can be a bowling coach of kkr, then it clearly means that indians are not against pak players (although they don't care if they are included or not) !!
@Y Khan: which color?
@Aadersh: Ask General Kayani or Gilani, or Zardari and each galli cricketer of Pakistan, your mom n dad, your teacher, the bhajiwala, the milkman, the postman, even Osama bin Laden would know about IPL. and you dodn't?? dude, you need to catch up. For your information, its is an Indian cricket lague where players are payed three times more than what China paid pakistan for flood victicms.
@Fawad: Make a trip to Kuwait you might like to change your priorities.
@csmann: My nationality is to identify myself as a Muslim first it means one Umma not any country. I am more patriotic to my religion after then I consider myself as a Pakistani. Got it.
@Fawad: so why do you go to usa when you consider it to be your enemy;what kind of nationalism are you talking?there are no kinds but one kind . so you can go to other countries and indian-muslims should not.why you have the exclusive privilege. why wont indian-muslims not show their nationalism when they are nationals of india have you loked at your statemnts,do you see any logic in it?
@Jameel: You guys can't even think of new name.. :-) Popat
@Adnan Khan:
I dont know about Anti-Pakistan feelings, but those I have met are livid that the colour of their skin and a Muslim name will not get them an easy visa to even study in US or other Western Countries. I dont have to tell you who they are blaming.
No where did I expect Indian Muslims to be pro-any Country other than India. I know quite a few of them personally and I know their love for their Country.
OMG, Shahid Afridi is now interested in playing IPL 4 but arn't these tamashas are being run by Hindus who can't trusted as per his last statement which he later made u turn.
@Adnan Khan: Adnan bhai if zaida sentiments show karein woh toh kehna go back to India and work. Why do they come to Dubai or USA if they have so much nationalism and patriotic nation. Why Indians go overseas and show nationalism just because they don't like to go back to India and work. I live in USA but I don't do this kind of nationalism stuff here.
@BruteForce.. Living in Dubai I know how Indian Muslims are they have very Anti-Pakistani sentiments.. Within there hearts they are First Indians then religion comes over. At work the sort of unity they have irrespective a person is Hindu or Muslim they have strongly within their hearts Nationalism... So don't expect Indian Muslim to be pro Pakistani.
First the world tells us to be friends with India and accept them as our Big Brother. When Indians do things like this and Pakistanis retaliate, then we are told (by our own citizens) that India is our friend. How confused we are!
IPL? Whats that? :\
Wow, some people have slave mentality. Pakistan and India don't even care to feed and clothe their own citizens and yet here we have people defending their 'Masters'.
Pakistani cricket players as well as cinema behave like India is their ultimate acheivement. C'mon find your own identity guys!
@antanu: "Who said India is a secular country? Its only a facade behind which religious fundamentalism and bigotry are rampant."
Secularism is a concept that applies to the state not individuals. It states that the state wil not fabor or discriminate against any citizen on the basis of religion. And there are no laws that discriminate against non-Hindus in India unlike in Pakistan where a non-Muslim cannot become PM, President COAS or Chief Justice of Supreme court, where Hindu marriages are not registered, where blasphemy laws apply only protect feelings of Muslims etc.
Do I claim that there are religious fundos or bigots in India? Ofcourse not. Every country has those. It is the proportion in Pakistan and the frequency with which they exercise their violent methods which is a problem.
@antanu: "No Manju…according to your media" You did not say according to our Indian media. SO here you clearly you are not claiming to be Indian. In another article which was about India, you conveniently pretended to be from Eastern UP. Please stop faking your identity. You are entitled to express your views no matter whatever your identity - no need to fake.
A HUGE GAMBLING SPOT IPL Nothing more than that.
Us Pakistanis should just wake up and realize we are the world's biggest hypocrites. We will move to the US in a heartbeat but we criticize the US. Our cricketers want to play in IPL but they say awful things about Hindus and then say that Indians have a small heart.
Get over it. Pakistan's game of cheating and hypocrisy is up. No one trusts us. No one believes us. We can clean up or be cleaned out. Fellow Pakistanis, if you are too hypocritical and dogmatic and can't realize the truth, we are done for.
@Fawad: Why should IPL share money with PCB?. The players are paid to perform in a private enterprise. It is not IPL's responsibility to keep PCB in good finanical shape.
I truly believe that sports should not be affected by politics even had many small brats with my friends reg this issue. We used to chant the 'Afridi ' mantra when he used to play in Hyderabad for DC(ipl1),but I dont think any of us will support him even if he is allowed to play after his hypocritical statements abt India and Indians..I still couldnt understand how he wishes to play in IPL even after knowing that we are petty minded..LOL.
@Uzair : Plz dont be rude,,its not that ET is ur personal forum nor does it blocks any non-paki reader from reading/posting.
Why are you dying to play in IPL when they dont want you??? Plz have some self respect, money is not everything you know. Our players should refuse to play even if the IPL asks for them. But than again, why would someone do that if he prefers money over dignity.
@Pervaiz Majeed: A secular indian will not be able to draw any sense of what you said. What the heck are you talking. There is a word called 'word salad' which possibly comes somewhere near what you said. Please anyone who understands what he is talking convey it to everyone else debating here so we can get back to sense.
@antanu: Oh, you mean to say according to your media pakistan lost a fair and square match. Then whats there to whine about. Indian team after all is a world champ. You see people in india don't deny having a problem because it is the acceptence of it that is the first stage of finding a solution. Our own police discovered the cronje and azharuddin fiasco and as a result more than 5 of indian team members lost their position in the national team. That is a mature response of a society trying to rebuilt itself. DENIAL is on the other hand is an immature/psychotic defense (you can refer the meaning of the word in any psychiatry text book). Going by your comment i can only expect a denial.
@ayesha: Who said India is a secular country? Its only a facade behind which religious fundamentalism and bigotry are rampant.
Indians have small heart, their cricketers are coward, not match winner etc.etc.
But then we still cringe if they don't take our cricketer's in IPL. Will someone tell me, why?
@Mohd Rifaye: And just to add, Sri Lankan "version" of IPL got scrapped because Indian cricketers were not allowed to participate and NO channels were ready to telecast. However, like in all other spheres, India is way ahead of Pakistan, so it will do no harm to us if we allow Pakistanis to play in IPL. BTW, Mr.Butt just visited India to request India to play a series, even at neutral venue
@David why ur economy is so small against china? compare ur country with has population equals to urs. Joke of the century. India is a super power.
@sanwar: Can you think of one good reason why Indians should not hate Pakistanis?
My Pakistani friends please look at it from as business and security angle. I am from Mohali for the world cup semi final there was very strict security it became difficult to move around in Mohali.These were the problems in staging one match involving Pakistani players at Mohali and the final at Mumbai . Please imagine the security nightmare when you have Pakistani players in the 10 IPL teams and there are a total of 74 matches to be played .Whether the GOI ,BCCI & the PCB admit it or not in this situation we can not afford to further spoil or relations. This was the security problem now look at it from the point of view of the IPL team owners. If you have picked Umar Gul (who is one of the premier fast bowlers today) and due to some problems that happen between the to countries the Pakistan govt does not allow the players to take part like it happened in IPL2 who will be your pace spearhead Chawla .The saving grace is that this time the Pakistani players are not included in the auction what happened last time was a disgrace.I am a cricket fan and would love to see India Pakistan matches but there are other matters between the two countries which are far more important we need peace and cordial relations.
So what if pakistanis is are not playing in IPL? Let iPL go to he'll . What is the importance of IPL? Nothing!
@Mohsin: Its the money boy
@kashan and other: Good Idea,Start PPl, and the teams would be Haqqani hunters, Abbotabad Osama Rockers, LeT Bombers, JuD Jihadis and so on.....
Leave IPL and start PPL.
@ali: Thats because corrupt people in india go to jails. I am a 100% sure pakistan has no corruption. Thats why india is trying to malign pakistani cricketers!!!!!! (like they need to be maligned) and funnily enough they fall to the trap.
Fellow Pakistanis ..... Its not the issue of India & Pak its BCCI and the way they are operating.......and the kind of nationalism they are promoting...........IPL governing council is run by some of most corrupt people in India. Head of BCCI it self have stake in one of the team all the member are earning ample amount of money with 0 tranperency of the operation they niether fall under goverment games ambit neither RTI.........Please understand its not the people of india who dont want to see Pakistani players its our Politics and so called politicians.
Sanwar : Typical muslim mindset of associating everything with religion. No wonder Pakistan is the most hated and despised country in the world. If your cricketers have any shame, they should quit playing cricket after all the scandals in Pakistani cricket. IPL is Indian , underline, Indian and we have the right to choose the participants. Your noises are all for our entertainment only.
Typical cheap Hindu hatred for Pakistan.
@maulunadiesiel in a indian who pretends to be muslim IPL is full of corruption thats why its founder is now hiding in south africa
Well the real issue in IPL is about money. Paki players can improve much better in English county cricket and make handsome money. So why care for IPL. Issues are.
1) First thing that IPL doesn't allow paki players to make money. 2) IPL doesn't agree with PCB shares when Pakistan players go to play cricket in India. 3) PCB doesn't get enough money from IPL shares. 4) Final, PCB avoids and discourage Paki players to go and play IPL because PCB is in loss afterall where IPL doesn't agree the terms of money shared between both boards.
Finally, Paki players go to Honkong sixes, Paki play England County cricket to play and improve cricket on International tours rather than playing domestic IPL.
I dont understand the double standards. We are usually seen cursing their league, blaming it of fixing and biased results. Sohail Tanvir even attacked their Hindu religion , saying 'Hindoon ki soch he ghatya hai'. But here we are, so want to be a part of this setup once again. Self respect naam ki koi cheez he nahi hai Pakistani players me. I know that if selected , the very players who were criticizing it , would be the first to submit their names.
IPL is crappy cricket and a quick money scheme. Pak players should focus on domestic improve their performances for next T20 world cup and next worldcup from now. SAY GOOD BYE TO IPL & PCB Doesn't like when Paki players for IPL.
T20 FORMAT SHOULD BE BANNED ALL TOGETHER!! BRING ON A TEST CHAMPIONSHIP -- PLAYED AT VENUES ACROSS THE WORLD.
@Aamir: "Indian hatred for Pakistanis is strong."
Hmmmm, Jedi Master Aamir, much reason behind the dislike, there is.
Amitabh: IPL, ab aakhri saval, 5 Crore ke liye.
Who is the most corrupt/dangerous/detrimental to cricket? Your options are...
A) INDIA B) AUSTRALIA C) BRITAN D) PAKISTAN..
IPL: It's Pakistan.
Amitabh : Are you sure ? Lock kar doon?
IPLi: If you really lock them up, I will give you 100 Crores
@Nasir: "IF you wanna go in that debate then first remember Ghambir Comments about Pakistanis.
And if Franchise are really interested in profit, they should be playing Pakistani cricket because even indians want to watch players like Afridi, Razzaq and Akhtar in action. "
Guatm Gambhir dedicated the World Cup win - which happened in Mumbai to the Mumbai terror victims. He did not say a single word against Pakistan or any Pakistani person.
It is true that Shoaib Akhtar and Afrid were very popular in India. However both Shoaib and Afridi continue to alienate their Indian fans through their verbal diatribes.
As for profits, IPL 3 and 4 have been highly profitable even though Pakistani players did not play.
whatever!!! they didnt even invite our players when we were the t20 champions! sarru kahin k...
@maulanamaudidi: "Make MPL = Muslim Premier League " You can ofcourse have such things but most other people would call it Bangladesh/Pakistan T20 series.
May be Sachin Tendulkar scared of batting against Akhtar and Pakistan bolwers and requested franchises to ban Pakistani players.
@omg!: haa haa you sound so much like a typical sore looser !! and Pakistani off course !! WC 2011. Still so bilssful. Semi-final was even sweeter !!
here comments from pakistani are so funny. really don't they have any common sense about business and profitability. by the way do they eat only sour grapes.
@Nasir: A nations secular policy extends only to its own citizens.
@Aadersh: IPL is BAAP of all d cricket series. And that's why you bothered to comment on this news..
@ayesha: You got spunk!!!!!!
Ayesha,
May be he does. Im not answerable for what he says you see...
@Nasir:
Secularism is for Indians, not for Pak.
@omg!: You seriously need to go to geography and history school. 1) Pakistan is bounded by india, iran and afghanistan and neither of these countries have good relation with it. Any guess who the reason is? No prizes for this.. 2) No.1 bookie of the world sits right in the middle of lahore the founder of the infamous D-Company as he so called in india. 3) Sports as you rightly said has no religion but i seriously doubt you understand the essense of your statement. 4) Thankfull to pakistan for what 26/11 mumbai, 92 mumbai, kargil, kandahar, indian parliament attack, 1947, 1965 etc,etc??? 5) Atleast you accepted you fix matches but then stop deflecting..
there goes chance for pakistani players to earn millions of dollar. now they will resort to spot fixing to earn money.
@maulanamaudidi: You said -"Make MPL = Muslim Premier League "
Great Idea! Just like the Great Idea about a country for Muslims called Pakistan!
those who have noting to do they watch IPL....come one guys get life, its modern world watch english county pure cricket
Vienna,14-10-2011 The loss is suffered by Narendra Modi´s bania bookies. I am glad about it.Even The News of the World died by spot fixing.May be baroness will help to open up the British Commonwealth League at Tuvalu capital what is its name Futunaki? Taravadu Taranga Trust for Mdia Monitoring TTTMM India --Kulamarva Balakrishna
@ uzair : I have fiduciary oblligation to defend against something that i love the most..I wouldnt be commenting here, had ET didnt report this. Neither am i complaining ET, as its their Journalistic duty, nor am i surprized your childish attitude ? after all you guys behave as cry babies most of the time.;)
you are right...
@Jameel: "Make PPL, Pakistan Premier League" 1. Who would fund it? 2. Where would the matches be played? No teams are willing to play in Pakistan.
Make MPL = Muslim Premier League
@Mirza: I agree with you completely. I think this is a purely business decision. Not just the post World match Afridi tirade but the recentShoaib Akhtar statements stating that he had been cheated by IPL franchisees (which apparently have not been substantiated e.g. no complaint has been registered 3 years from the time that he was supposedly cheated), people like Sohail Tanvir who played IPL 1 and later made hateful comments about Hindu zainiat has definitely alienated Indians from Pakistani cricketers.
As you said though this is a very small part of India Pakistan relationship. Also even at individual level Pakistani performers still continue to get love and affection in India. SO there definitely has not been any blanket rejection of all things Pakistani.
In fact as mentioned, Pakistanis are participating in other capacities in IPL e.g. ,atch referees, coaches for individual team etc,
Make PPL, Pakistan Premier League.
@Mohd Rifaye: Please go to your own forum to make comments. I am sure TOI is providing an unbiased view of this situation as always.
@zehra hassan: "IPL. Yes it is good money no doubt but for heaven’s ske get some self respect !"
SO why do so many Pakistanis live and work in USA when US is hated so much?
@BruteForce: "Franchises are business entities and they are always looking at protecting their investments" In addition to the risk due to visas in case of terror incidents, there are other risks. Ultimately IPL wants to select players that are going to be popular in India. The type of statements Afridi, Shoaib Akhtar, PCB has been giving has really alienated Indians from Pakistani players. @Aamir
If Indians hated Pakistanis, then atif Aslam, Rahat Fateh Ali Khan, Ali Zafar, Shafqat Amanat Ali would not get the respect andlove that they doin India. But yes the statement of Pakistani cricketers have definitely alienated Indians from Pakistani cricketers.
@Maulana Diesel: After winning the world cup you mean in which they thrashed pakistan in a semifinals.
@Natasha: "IPL that Bollywood show?
So why did Afridi request just this May to allowPak players to play in next IPL? or is it that he wants to work in Bollywood?
@Nasir: "So this is what is called Secularism in India?"
I do not think you understand the concept of seculaism. It means that the state insititutions will not differentiate between citizens on the basis of religion. Secularism is irrelevant here because: 1. Neither IPL governing body nor its franchisees are a state institution 2. IT only applies to citizens of the country. So if US is secular, an Indian in India cannot say, you must give me a job in US if I am a Hindu. Same applies to Pakistani players who want to work in India. Secularism does not give any such entitlement. 3. Even within the country, it just means equal chance - not an entitlement to play IPL. There are several non-Hindu players who played in IPL last time Yusuf Pathan, Irfan Pathan, Mnaf Patel, Harbhajan Singh. So it is clear that IPL does not distinguish on the basis of religion.
What is IPL by the way??
This is not a good political or sports decision to exclude all Pakistani players from IPL. However, it may be a good business decision on the part of the individual IPL teams. In a free market system the star players would have been an automatic choice even if they were from Pakistan. After the Afridi tirade aganist India, he had closed most of the Indian doors on Pakistani players. One can only wish that the Indians were better men than they are on this policy. Let us not forget that IPL is only a tiny part of relationship between the two large countries. IPL would have benefitted only a few players and not the whole nation.
@Lobe: If that is true then you should also realize that austrlians wre named as well... from the same men.. how can you belive oen thing that is said about pakistan and not belive same thing that is said about australia.. also everyone knows india is behind all this gambling money.. i mean india is the hub.. why don't you catch them so nothing will happen.. Kill the root not the leaves because leaves will come and go but roots are only going to get stronger..
I think the chairman should not have said even one word. Let the Pakistan players be brought to auction. It should be upto the franchisees to make the right commercial decision. I am sure that they would not select pakistani players for valid commercial and logistical (visa) reasons. So instead of getting dumped in the auction, it is better they are not called to the auction. It will atleast save them their faces. Only Afridi is not qualified on health reasons , everyone knows he has heart enlargement problem, and his teeth are stuck in the balls too. isnt it
Afridi's and PCB's statements against India did not go well with BCCI which not only harmed his own prospects but his team-mates as well.
Indian hatred for Pakistanis is strong.
@PostMan: Easy to say when you're not the one missing out on the money. I am sure the attitude would be different when it is our money on the line.
I prefer to watch paint dry rather than watching some IPL match.
This is just like asking ur friend "why did you not invite me to ur party ?" .What ever IPL does is the decission of an privately held ,money spinning organisation. GOI or People of India have no rights to say .
Again why players of Pak expect this from small hearted non muslim Indians ?
@globalHeadache: true, the franchises kept the corrupts crickets out !!
Pakistani players are notorious for fixing matches and i guess franchise don't want any more controversies so they are playing safe.
...India's gambling syndicate must be very upset that pakistani players are not included in lucrative IPL.
IPL that Bollywood show?
@Syed: Say what? How can they boycott when they don't have an invitation?
@ Maulana diesel :so you mean indians lost d all games due to IPL fatigue... Do you know your team ranking ? or should i remaind you ? they are not even in top 5 ranking
For god sake, stop speaking like saint. That we have cheap money in IPL...do you know why three of your esteemed players are in London court? its all money honey !!! you, me, cricketers, business man, politicians , we are all after money..Right from Foreign minster to PCB, have been pressing BCCI, and indian govt to include your players..why ? they know it will get them lot of money.. check out top 10 valued league in the world.. IPL stand at 4 according to Forbes..remember we are just 5 years old..you could see the potential in 10 years from now..
your nation is more mad abt cricket than us. you could build a better domestic cricket league..show us your ego to us. and tell indian players that they are not allowed to play in pakistan or even snub us at the airport..Otherwise dont shout here in this forum, it doesnt help anyone..
bottomline : IPl is EPL of cricket..Chennai superkings is like our version of Man united. did i tell you that I am CSK fan ?
@BruteForce: I totally agree with you. Afridi has been the most vocal for the past few years for wanting to play in IPL. He created such a sensation sometimes back about the PCB and when he was allowed to play overseas everything became quiet and he even accepted to pay the fine. If he felt that he was been victimised why did he apologise and agree to pay the fine. Greed personified!
standard responses...i think some people are posting the same stuff they posted last year ...
c'mon...indians don't want to see your players.....please live with it
@omg!: oh and we have the best neighbour in the world.....yeahhhhhh ....pakistan. We are so lucky to have pakistan as our neighbour......not.
P.s india gave most favoured nation status to pak in 1997,so we've got it covered.
They (indians) will make you work hard and play like dogs...and the money you will earn wont leave India. Howzzat!! You still want to play ??
Where are all the Bollywood obsessed, SAFMA loving Aman Ki Asha-ists who like to keep reminding us that we misunderstand India every now and then? Our brotherly neighbor displaying such brotherly sportsmanship!
@BruteForce so indians hav proved... lolz,
@all we do not cry on not in IPL.. we cry of having the most pathetic neighbor in the world. :'''( (in other news, pakistan decided to put india, the most favorable country)
IPL is tamasha cricket. Look what happened to Indian team after playing IPL. They lost all test matches and all one dayers in England. LOL!!!!
IPL is killing cricket guys. I think IPL itself should be shelved completely. Real cricket is Test Cricket, I think IPL should host 5 day matches instead of this stupid 20-20 game. I think this is a blessing in disguise for Pakistan Cricket Team. I solely blame IPL for the drubbing we got in England. All major players injured during IPL season.
screw it guys....there is the aussie big bash, south african pro 20 and english t20 to look at, apart from our own, yes the money is nowhere near IPL money but you know what, its fine....times change...kabhi kabhi kai din baray kabhi kabhi ki raatein.
I think its high time that these idiots stop looking for IPL's cheap money and put their self esteem ahead of greed.
Good for PAK cricket although cricketers may feel denied yet again.
Franchises are business entities and they are always looking at protecting their investments. Another Terror attack happens in India which is traced back to Pakistan, then no more visas for Pakistani players. Think of the risks!
After all Afridi thinks Indians have a small-heart and no Indian can have a bigger heart than Muslims(assuming only of Pakistan). Why does he want to play in a small-hearted people's IPL?
May I request our players to do just one thing... if they ever decide to include Pakistani players in IPL, kindly boycott it for the first year. Money should not be the priority always - pride comes first too.
I dont think its a big news. Its was all expected.
There are a lot of hawkish elements in Indian society too.
Our team should have some decency and boycott the IPL for atleast one season!
I dont get it. This report contradicts itself. If pakistani players are not banned what does the councils decision decision mean?
Why Pakistanis are keen to play when Indians are not interested to give them chance?
institutionalized bigotry on india's part....nothing new, IPL is simply a repackaging of a game they're playing for centuries now...
So what? why do we have to cry fro a place in their IPL? I feel all pakistani playesrs should concenterate on domestic and other interantional commitments rather than eyeing and hoping for opportunites of playing in IPL. Yes it is good money no doubt but for heaven's ske get some self respect !