Pakistan our only all-weather friend: China

Published: September 28, 2011
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Chinese Minister of Public Security Meng Jianzhu (L) shakes hands with Pakistan's Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani (R) prior to their meeting in Islamabad on September 27, 2011. Two rounds of talks in the Presidency matters concerning Pak-China relations, mutual cooperation, regional situation, fight against militancy and recent devastation caused by heavy rains in Sindh came under discussion. PHOTO: AFP

Chinese Minister of Public Security Meng Jianzhu (L) shakes hands with Pakistan's Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani (R) prior to their meeting in Islamabad on September 27, 2011. Two rounds of talks in the Presidency matters concerning Pak-China relations, mutual cooperation, regional situation, fight against militancy and recent devastation caused by heavy rains in Sindh came under discussion. PHOTO: AFP

ISLAMABAD: With no signs of an improvement in strained Pakistan-US relations, Islamabad and Beijing on Tuesday warmed to each other with rhetoric loud enough to be heard across the Atlantic.

“China categorically supports Pakistan‘s efforts to uphold its sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity,” said visiting Chinese Vice Prime Minister Meng Jianzhu at a meeting with Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani. Meng went on to say that Pakistan was the only state with whom China enjoyed an “all-weather friendship.”

The PM responded to Meng’s resounding endorsements with equally grand words. “Your friends are our friends, your enemies are our enemies and your security is our security,” he told the visiting leader.

According to a statement from the PM’s media office, Gilani particularly mentioned close ties between China and Pakistan in the fields of terrorism, intelligence sharing and anti-narcotics. During Meng’s visit, China provided over Rs110 million in aid for law enforcement agencies in Pakistan.

“We will cooperate with you to the extent you want us to cooperate,” Gilani told Meng, who also held meetings with Pakistan’s top military and intelligence leaders during his two-day visit. Meng called on the Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani and senior army officers at GHQ on Monday evening, accompanied by a delegation of high ranking Chinese officials.

Meng, a prominent leader in the Chinese State Council, arrived in Islamabad on Monday at a time when relations between Pakistan and the US had plunged into deeper uncertainty and distrust over the Haqqani network.

Experts said the Chinese were willing to support Pakistan in its efforts to counter pressure by the US but wanted Islamabad to defuse tensions with Washington, at least for now.

Meng stated that the Chinese foreign ministry would soon issue an official statement of solidarity with Pakistan in its right to sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity.

During Meng’s visit, the two sides signed $250 million in economic and technical agreements, according to the office of President Zardari.

(With additional INPUT from WIRES.)

Published in The Express Tribune, September 28th,  2011.

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  • msn
    Sep 28, 2011 - 8:48AM

    Indians must be undergoing intense painRecommend

  • Arindom
    Sep 28, 2011 - 8:52AM

    No wonder the “Friends of China Club” consists of Burma, N.Korea, Iran, Cuba and Sudan!! Welcome to Pakistan to this Elite Club!!Recommend

  • Troll be gone because Kal ho no ho
    Sep 28, 2011 - 8:53AM

    Let the troll fest from across the border begin…..

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  • Atheist, India
    Sep 28, 2011 - 9:31AM

    @ msn “Indians must be undergoing intense pain
     
    …no we find solace in the fact that we have Billions of dollars worth of trade with China and don’t need their support to establish our pride. India stands on her own and it has been long since we looked desperate for any other country’s approval.Recommend

  • anil
    Sep 28, 2011 - 9:32AM

    I wonder if Pak is china’s only all weather friend,then what about N Korea,Iran ,Burma and Chili ??

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  • Adarsh
    Sep 28, 2011 - 9:40AM

    All beware !!! Nobody touches Pakistan otherwise China …….

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  • John B
    Sep 28, 2011 - 9:40AM

    “Your friends are our friends, your enemies are our enemies and your security is our security,”

    If US, and India are China’s enemies, then PAK needs salvation from heaven immediately.

    Chinese ships are anchoring in US and Indian coasts even before Pakistan was invented on the map.

    Friends are made over centuries in international relations and there are no enemies in international affairs. Recommend

  • Ranthambore Tiger
    Sep 28, 2011 - 9:48AM

    China-Pakistan friendship is 63 years old. Other countries joined latter. Even Pakistan was instrumental in establishing diplomatic relationship between China and US. We Pakisanis did not forget that China used her VETO in favor of Pakistan when the country had been under immense pressures.

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  • Troll be gone because Kal ho no ho
    Sep 28, 2011 - 10:00AM

    @Arindom:
    Son, How many times are you going to repeat yourself? get on a blog and make it your signatures.
    China practically own the US .ask me how! If you me , they are the sharpest tool in the shed.really think about it. Do you realize that had it not been for China, our savings would ve been 50% less than what they are now as we would not have been able to buy inexpensive ( not cheap items?
    I see more Indians in the 1 Dollar store than any other ethnic group so ask your own! Now , switch the koolaid!

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  • Troll be gone II
    Sep 28, 2011 - 10:02AM

    @John B:
    Ask an india: do you trust USA?
    Exactly……. so dont worry about Pakistan Pick another hobbyRecommend

  • saeed
    Sep 28, 2011 - 10:06AM

    Can some one explain to me that why this sentence “Pakistan our only all-weather friend: China” is of so much pain to Indians….Pakistan and china have a history of decades long good relations..this is the only one issue on which All political parties..leaders…and Pakistanis have the same opinion..We are giving CHINA the strategic depth which was started by building the Karakorum highway in 80’s and still going on with gawadar and other projects…Recommend

  • shi huandi
    Sep 28, 2011 - 10:20AM

    “Pakistan our only all-weather friend”: China – with the expense of your economy :D

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  • narayana murthy
    Sep 28, 2011 - 10:26AM

    I think what China meant to say was “Pakistan is our all-weather lackey”.

    No matter what happens, Pakistan will keep pleasing China and China will be giving some goodies in return.

    I think that’s what the statement meant. Because friendships are usually between the equals. Or at least on equal terms. Do you people see that here?!!!

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  • ripu
    Sep 28, 2011 - 10:28AM

    …..china is happy that ..they can capture the ramain market from USA to sell Arms to Pakistan……..for china….pakistan is a market nothing else……..

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  • lollypop
    Sep 28, 2011 - 10:54AM

    Indians especially in north of baharat have problem in forgetting that who ruled them for several hundred years lives across the border. Same is the problem with Pakistanis

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  • AH
    Sep 28, 2011 - 11:52AM

    @ripu:
    Sunshine, business is business… and Chinese are reliable suppliers!

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  • curious
    Sep 28, 2011 - 11:55AM

    Did I read that correctly – “China provided over Rs110 million in aid for law enforcement agencies in Pakistan”. US was giving Pakistan $3Billion annually in AID and Pakistan’s all-weather friend comes up with $1.26Million? Some friend!!!

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  • AH
    Sep 28, 2011 - 11:55AM

    @narayana murthy:
    China made clear what It meant. If you come here and try to give your own chankya spin, you are not contributing toward anything so what then is the purpose?
    BTW, forget about equals , you will learn the ropes in your friendship with the US. Recommend

  • host
    Sep 28, 2011 - 11:55AM

    strange to see almost all comments are from indians on a pakistani local website – what entices that? i’ve seen many indian blogs in past begging china for a friendship chanting the same slogan ‘what pakistan can give china in return?’ ‘indians can return china with business blah blah’ .
    funny part is that china don’t seem to agree with indian philosphy and it propagates ‘all weather friend’ slogan quite frequently. A soon-to-be-sole-super-power is certainly wiser than their bragging neighbour in seeing ‘something’ that pakistan can give to china which can’t be given by indian.

    Wise would understand and fools would argue.

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  • Iceman
    Sep 28, 2011 - 12:29PM

    @msn:
    “Indians must be undergoing intense pain”

    Indians have known about the collaboration between China and Pakistan for a long time now. However, it is quite amusing to know that this collaboration now is against US, not India. India has hardly any stake in this one. So your statement defies logic.

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  • Iceman
    Sep 28, 2011 - 12:30PM

    Oh dear! We live in strange times. I am following the latest conflict (b/w Pak & US) with great interest. We all know who’s gonna win, but I am curious to know how ridiculus can the things turn. Currently, neither US nor Pakistan is budging down. If things go down as they are currently and the war-mongers (Republicans) get to power in US, they’ll fullfill what the Democrats are now threatening with Pakistan. You are counting on China against US! God help you. China is a shrewd country. They don’t do anything until it is really beneficial to them. Remember, they refused to help Italy recently.

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  • Sep 28, 2011 - 1:25PM

    Excellent. Great news. We have been telling this for month.

    Now Pakistan should ask China for Chinese Nationality to all the Pakistanis. Recommend

  • citizen First
    Sep 28, 2011 - 1:53PM

    @Adarsh:
    your statement seems racial Recommend

  • Gadhay kay pechay bhains.........
    Sep 28, 2011 - 2:05PM

    @Iceman:
    you stated:
    You are counting on China against US! God help you. China is a shrewd country. They don’t do anything until it is really beneficial to them. Remember, they refused to help Italy recently.

    Now, when a Chines delegation shows up at your door you brag about it as if it as going to be detrimental to Pakistan, which it is not( it is just business) Recommend

  • Sundeep
    Sep 28, 2011 - 2:19PM

    There we go lord-ling pronounced. Pakistanis reply saying your security is our security and we are happy to serve. Why can’t for once Pakistan seek a ‘Partner’ relationship rather than a ‘Master-Servant’ relationship?

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  • Beta
    Sep 28, 2011 - 2:39PM

    A state run Chinese web site yesterday published an article,
    Asian powers start key dialogue
    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/2011-09/27/content_13798171.htm

    The above article is about China and India cooperation on various fronts.

    So, all Pakistanis, don’t live in fools paradise come to reality. China is expert on treat the states on their merit and for their own stake.

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  • vickram
    Sep 28, 2011 - 2:52PM

    Now Pakistan will be flooded with cheap mobile phones with 4 sim cards and a powerful torch. And comes with a 20-day warranty.

    You might particularly need that torch feature in the coming days !

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  • R S JOHAR
    Sep 28, 2011 - 3:17PM

    Dont start the celebrations so soon, wait till the weather goes bad and real face of China would emerge.

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  • amit
    Sep 28, 2011 - 3:27PM

    How foolish to sharpen knife against US and think China is all weather friend. Well time will tell. US still has more to offer be it money, influence in world, their democratic and educational institutions.
    And Indian trolls coming here.. i mean seriously.. which world these people live in.. 1860s. Grow up!!

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  • Aristo
    Sep 28, 2011 - 3:28PM

    We as Pakistanis need to fix our selves on pririty, forget about USA and China. Learn how to live on our own, is this so difficult to comprehend.

    After 65 years, we should not merely switch masters, i.e. China instead of USA, we must become masters of our own destiny, if we want to survive as a nation.

    THERE IS NO OTHER WAYRecommend

  • khan
    Sep 28, 2011 - 4:58PM

    The Chinese are one nation that is famous for planning years ahead. Its leadership decided decades ago that there were only two billion people countries in Asia and one day, it was only natural, that they would rival each other for regional dominance.

    Helping Pakistan, while it has suited us, has served long term Chinese interests. There is no friendship when it comes to nations, only permanent interests.

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  • Nadeem
    Sep 28, 2011 - 5:09PM

    @Aristo: 24 karat gold. But what you ask for requires painful changes in the state machinery, the first one being army relinquishing charge to civilians in every facet of state business. Don’t see that happening any time soon.

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  • G. Din
    Sep 28, 2011 - 5:32PM

    @lollypop:
    “Indians especially in north of baharat have problem in forgetting that who ruled them for several hundred years lives across the border. “
    Across the border, live Muslims of Pakistan. Did Muslims of Pakistan rule our Bharat? If they did, why are they now in Pakistan? So, evidently, it is not those Muslims who ruled us. Here is a lesson of history for you who are being lied to everyday of the week. It is Mughals who ruled a portion of India. Are Muslims of Pakistan descendants of Mughals? No, of course not!
    Analogously, it is the British who ruled India, not Christians. Not all Christians are British and not all British are Christians. Get the difference?Recommend

  • Brasstacks
    Sep 28, 2011 - 6:03PM

    @lollypop: That was history my dear brother. My advise is, see if you can rule over even ur own truncated country (minus Bangladesh) now ? Let me see how many of ur co country men support you on this.
    Stop dreaming and start living in the present.

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  • DesiOnTheLoose
    Sep 28, 2011 - 6:50PM

    To all my Indians Neighbors to the East…Lets not forget that the US uses you for cheap labor, and yet they are still trillions in debt they OWE to China. In other words, the US is your daddy if thats how you want to compare Sino-Pak relationships. If you want to talk economy, India will do everything it can to stop Pakistan’s goals. Take Gwader port for an example, Why are Indians/Americans so against the project? They know it will be the biggest, tax-free, warm water sea port in the world. Yet they sit and make the “terrorist” excuses. India is no great superpower, you still have beggars, slumps, racial tensions. Working on $3/hr wage is nothing nowadays.

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  • Ali Tanoli
    Sep 28, 2011 - 7:14PM

    If india solved the kashmir then nothing left to fight on we pakistani will gonna say jai hind?

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  • Shyam
    Sep 28, 2011 - 7:42PM

    After N Korea, Burma Sudan etc, Pak is new client state for China?? Recommend

  • Shyam
    Sep 28, 2011 - 7:52PM

    @DesiOnthe loose
    “If you owe a bank thousands, you have a problem; owe a bank millions, the bank has a problem”

    US owes China trillions, that’s even more reason China would not US to lose any wars and default on its debt. That situation is definitely not in Pakistan’s favor. How many chinese ships are docked at Gwadar?? Pakistan keeps talking about its potential but when will it start delivering on its potential? Stop begging and start earning.
    $3 and hour makes it 70,500 Pakistani rupees per month taking 9 working hours per day, I guess that is a lot more money than the average Pakistani earns, so start respecting it

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  • Naveeda Shaikh
    Sep 28, 2011 - 7:56PM

    So many trolls! I wonder why can anyone not understand the sudden arrival of Meng in Pakistan while intense statements were being passed by White House leadership. The statements and arrival, additionally Hina rabbani’s talks surely meant to deliver a message to White House leadership.

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  • omg!
    Sep 28, 2011 - 7:57PM

    @msn
    1) China and Russia are also growing friends they had non-agression agreement, even they had war once. China is the 2nd biggest weapon importer AND they had the border, they both are COMMUNIST
    2) Venezuela, a super oil rich country is also in this club, in latin continent
    3) Iran, is way rich, educated and responsible than ur and mine pakistan
    4) Pakistan is poor, otherwise it is no where less than any nation. Pakistanis are everywhere in the world. From NASA to Boxing, Cricket to Music.
    5) Saudi Arabia gave the highest aid to China after 2008 earthquake, another country seeking love. A couple of months back, US had a huge defense deal of history with KSA
    6) US defeated Japan bcz of Bomb, the elite club of China includes N.K, Pak, Iran as bomb holders, how many NATO have “the bomb”?
    7) China’s economy is growing slow but stable, not like a turtle, but like a bull-dozer, a China with a gdp per capita of 10,000 US dollors, is way rich and difficult to undo, than a 40,000 US dollors per capita US. Bcz their economy and population ratio. Otherwise Qatar would be the superpower. (Deep thought)Recommend

  • omg!
    Sep 28, 2011 - 7:58PM

    also, Russia is moving its influence from India to China and Central Asia, it will make him an ally of Pakistan or atleast neutral. But no more the enemy. They cannot like to see facing Chinese.

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  • Prasad Mumbai
    Sep 28, 2011 - 9:39PM

    After making Haqqani Network its strategic asset, Pakistan has now successfully settled as China’s strategic asset!!! Wow!

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  • Long Standing
    Sep 28, 2011 - 10:21PM

    Curious case of benefactor praising the beggar!

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  • Freeman
    Sep 28, 2011 - 10:23PM

    @Arindom: Grow up and Check history. Pakistan and China are not new friends. Pakistan introduced China to the world and opened its doors for china to contact the world and do business. Pakistan made china and America close to each other. China is now givng back to Pakistan and appreciating Pakistan’s help. This is what is called True friendship. A friend in need is a friend indeed – True.

    China is not a bully country on the other hand America is a bully country towards poor countries.

    Indian toops has killed 100,000 yong Kashmiri people and also raped and tortured 80 women in Kashmir in last 22 years.

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  • John B
    Sep 28, 2011 - 11:50PM

    @Freeman:
    Without PAK, China could not have entered world market. So China owes a big deal to PAK.

    Now I understand the PAK egomaniacal mind!

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  • Ishant
    Sep 29, 2011 - 12:14AM

    lol….some loser above has written that ” the US is your(India’s) daddy”…hahahaha…dude your 64 yr old Pakistan has always been a baby of US, had it been not for US assistance in 80’s there would have been no nukes for Pakistan, no F-16s, no cruise missiles, nothing…India has an equal relation with US, India doesn’t go around the world saying “your enemy is our enemy and vice versa)…India selects its own friends and enemies, we do 100’s of billions of dollars worth of trade with US, EU and your fraaand China, we don’t take aid from them:-)))

    @lollypop
    We know who has ruled on Afghanistan, Pakistan and North India for centuries…Turks and Mughals

    @msn
    dude, why will it be a “pain” for us, China and Pak have been fraaands since 1947(before that there was no Pakistan).

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  • kumail
    Sep 29, 2011 - 12:28AM

    We are giving in this illusion of China being our all-weather friend. China has much better relations with India than with Pakistan. Just imagine that China trade with India is $60 BILLION! where with Pakistan is just mere $2.5bn. The US-China-India triangle is dominating the world. I guarantee you that China will support India’s bid for permanent seat at the UN.

    Pakistan relation with China has been so low that China blamed that the terrorists responsible for the riots in their Xinjiang province have been trained in Pakistan. This hurt our President so much that he offered his Eid prayer in Kashgar. China cannot help us with neither trade, aid or military support. Pakistan has been increasingly isolated nowadays and we have no true friends in the world today.

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  • Arindom
    Sep 29, 2011 - 12:51AM

    @Freeman:
    your delusion is phenomenal!!! Forget about the daily disappearances in Baluchistan, the world still hasn’t accounted for the 3 million butchered in Bangladesh. You should thank India that it pardoned the 90,000 Pakistani war criminals.. in ’71

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  • Antanu
    Sep 29, 2011 - 3:23AM

    Dont forget ee faced similar proelelms in 80s n 90s ans sang hymns in praise of USSR.

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  • Antanu
    Sep 29, 2011 - 3:36AM

    @DesiOnTheLoose:
    !wrong.not 3 dollors per hr. Last weeek only indian govt. Has declared any one earning rs.29 per day ( 0.5 dollors) as above poverty line.

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  • Umar
    Sep 29, 2011 - 8:26AM

    I’ve never seen so much comments from indians on a pakistani news website and on an article that has nothing to do with indians or india AT ALL. I dont think I need to say more!Recommend

  • Indian
    Sep 29, 2011 - 8:48AM

    boo !!!

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  • harkol
    Sep 29, 2011 - 9:41AM

    He He! Two things to note.

    China didn’t say we are Pakistan’s all weather friends!

    So, far China’s weather has been good for Pakistan, and it was a great freind of USA when the weather was good with USA too. Let’s see how it fares, when weather in China isn’t so good for Pakistan.

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  • omg!
    Sep 29, 2011 - 4:34PM

    @lollypop, @G.Din @Barrsstack, @Ishant
    1) Being the oldest religion and civilization, what hindus hav ruled and gave to world anything big or universal or worth mentioning?
    Except Gupta’s who had ruled a province of far east, did any hindu ruler ever ruled outside the territory of Hindustan? any country in Europe? Arab? Central or North Asia? can they?

    2) Mughals rule undivided india,
    Pakistan rule the divided india (west)
    Bang rule the divided india (east)
    Still Muslims rule the parts of undivided india.. Not you. Okay?

    3) Islam is not based on nationalisation, every muslim is muslim either from any country, any tribe or any ethnicity. Chrisitian world is based on ethnicity like germans, frrenchs. So there is no comparison. The world calls us “Muslim World” there is nothing like “Christian World” or “Hindu world”. We hav our own way of life. We are all same. We do not hav castes. A turk, arab, mughal, persian is in your eye, but not in our eye.

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  • Ishant
    Sep 29, 2011 - 7:50PM

    @omg

    LOL…seriously, is that the result of those notorious “Pakistani school textbooks”?

    1) Mughals ruled an “undivided India”, so did Guptas (including Punjab, Sindh and Bengal), Mauryans (first two kings were Hindus and later converted to Buddhism, another INDIAN religion), Palas (a multi faith Indian Empire) and Christian Britishers…

    2) You asked, “did any hindu ruler ever ruled outside the territory of Hindustan?”

    The answer is Yes, Mauryas, Palas, Guptas….and please, please read about Cholas

    Hinduism and Buddhism are Indian religion and are an integral part of Indian culture, they are to India, what Shintoism is to Japan and Confucianism is to China…we in India do not differentiate between the two…most ancient temples in India are multi faith Hindu-Buddhist temples.

    3) You also said that

    “Pakistan rule the divided india (west)
    Bang rule the divided india (east)
    Still Muslims rule the parts of undivided india.. Not you. Okay?”

    lol are u kiddin me? Are you saying that you are all Pakistanis and Bangladeshis, just coz they are muslims, are immigrants from Arabia or Khorasan?…if not, then aren’t you people ruling on YOUR OWN LAND?

    Just like you said, Islam is neither a Country nor an exclusive culture, its a religion, I bet u will even say that Indonesians and Somalians are Pakistanis, just co they are muslims:))

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  • omg!
    Sep 29, 2011 - 11:38PM

    @ishu
    Mughals ruled an “undivided India”, so did Guptas. Mughals came from central asia. they captured south asia. did thousand year guptas (your apple of eye) ruled outside their india?

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  • Bipul Rajput
    Sep 30, 2011 - 12:26AM

    @omg!:
    did thousand year guptas (your apple of eye) ruled outside their india? ..
    This is our vision of India – here is a link.
    The Great Guptas may not have ruled outside of India – but cultural empires created by successive Hindu/Buddhist rulers of India exist even today. All of South East Asia is part of the Indian cultural empire.
    You must wait a few decades for India to become more prosperous, then you shall see an even greater revival of our cultural empire. Recommend

  • Ishant
    Sep 30, 2011 - 3:05AM

    @omg

    Pakistan is out of India, right?…it was ruled by the Guptas, So did Mauryans, Palas and Cholas…

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  • Cynical
    Sep 30, 2011 - 5:23AM

    China,North Korea,Sudan,Pakistan,Myanamar….
    Welcome to the latest ‘League of Nations’ a paradise for dissenting voices.

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  • Manzoor Ahmad
    Sep 30, 2011 - 4:06PM

    International relations are based on the phenomenon of “self-interest.” We must improve relations with our neighbours whether it will be china or india because having good relations with these states are benificial for our glorious future. The integrity of our sovereignty is related to the relations of our nieghbours. So, forget the past and shake hands of good relations with our surrounding states.

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