White House calls on Pakistan to break ties with Haqqani Network

Published: September 23, 2011
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White House spokesman Jay Carney Carney said that it was "critical" Pakistan "break any links they have and take strong and immediate action against this network so they are no longer a threat to the United States or to the people of Pakistan." PHOTO: FILE/AFP

White House spokesman Jay Carney Carney said that it was "critical" Pakistan "break any links they have and take strong and immediate action against this network so they are no longer a threat to the United States or to the people of Pakistan." PHOTO: FILE/AFP

White House spokesman Jay Carney Carney said that it was "critical" Pakistan "break any links they have and take strong and immediate action against this network so they are no longer a threat to the United States or to the people of Pakistan." PHOTO: FILE/AFP Hina Rabbani Khar says the US cannot afford to alienate Pakistan or its people. PHOTO: AFP/FILE

NEW YORK: White House spokesman Jay Carney on Friday called on Pakistan to “break any link they have” with the Haqqani terror network, blamed for attacks in Afghanistan including the recent strike on the US embassy in Kabul.

“We know that the Haqqani network was responsible for the attacks on our embassy in Kabul,” Carney said.

“We know that the Haqqani network operates from safe havens in Pakistan, and that the government of Pakistan has not taken action against those safe havens. This has been a longstanding concern of the United States, and one that we discussed with Pakistan, in public and in private,” he said.

Carney said that it was “critical” that Pakistan “break any links they have and take strong and immediate action against this network so they are no longer a threat to the United States or to the people of Pakistan.”

Pakistan warns US: ‘You will lose an ally’ if accusations continue

Earlier on Thursday Pakistan’s foreign minister said that the United States risks losing an ally if it continues to publicly criticise Islamabad’s performance in the war against militancy.

(Read more: ISI targeted in bitter Mullen tirade)

“You will lose an ally,” Hina Rabbani Khar told Geo TV in New York.

“You cannot afford to alienate Pakistan, you cannot afford to alienate the Pakistani people. If you are choosing to do so and if they are choosing to do so it will be at their (the United States’) own cost.”

Khar was responding to Senate testimony by the outgoing chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mike Mullen, who said Pakistan’s top spy agency was closely tied to the Haqqani Network, the most violent and effective faction in the Afghan Taliban insurgency.

Mullen said on Thursday that Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI) played a role in the September 13 attack on the US embassy in Kabul, supporting militants known as the Haqqani network. That network, he said, is a “veritable arm” of the ISI.

The embassy attack was the latest in a series of violent episodes that have set back US efforts to bring the Afghan war to a peaceful close.

Mullen’s comments and Khar’s retort mark an unusual escalation of rhetoric between the allies in the struggle against militants and, at least in public, marks a low point in their relationship.

“At the operational level it will be appropriate to say that there are serious difficulties (between the two countries),” Khar told Geo.

In a separate interview with India’s NDTV, Khar added: “Pointing fingers at each other will not help. Finding scapegoats will not help … We want to be a mature, responsible country that is fighting terrorism with a lot of maturity.”

The tensions could have repercussions across Asia, from India, Pakistan’s economically booming arch-rival, to China, which has edged closer to Pakistan in recent years. A complete break between the United States and Pakistan – sometimes friends, often adversaries – seems unlikely, if only because the United States depends on Pakistan as a route to supply US troops in Afghanistan, and as a base for unmanned US drones.

Pakistan relies on Washington for military and economic aid and for acting as a backer on the world stage. Washington does not want to see further instability in the nuclear-armed country.

But support in the US Congress for curbing assistance or making conditions on aid more stringent is rising rapidly. And Mullen, CIA Director David Petraeus and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have all met their Pakistani counterparts in recent days to demand Islamabad rein in militants.

‘Tough messages have been delivered to Pakistan on Haqqani Network’

Amidst harsh public statements on the Haqqani Network to Pakistan from the US government, a US government official told The Express Tribune, “There shouldn’t be any doubt that tough messages have been delivered — from all levels of the US government — to Pakistan on the Haqqani network.”

However, the official speaking on background to The Express Tribune said, “the US-Pakistan relationship continues to have real strategic value for both countries, and both countries are committed to continuing to discuss those issues where our interests diverge.”

The statement follows Admiral Mike Mullen’s testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee where he accused the Haqqani Network of being supported by the ISI and being responsible for the attack in Kabul carried out on September 13.

Joint operation against terrorists: Mukhtar

Defence Minister Ahmed Mukhtar on Thursday advised Washington to formulate a joint strategy for an operation against the Haqqani network.

The defence minister was responding to a question in Karachi on the recent warnings of the United States, following the accusation that the ISI was involved in the attacks blamed on the Haqqani network.

Mukhtar stated that if the Haqqani network is the target, then both countries should devise a strategy and take unilateral action against the group.

He was of the view that the US cannot choose to alienate Pakistan at this moment.

He also denied allegations that the ISI was supporting the militant group led by Sirajuddin Haqqani.

He urged Washington to share proof of their accusations before making them public.

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Reader Comments (113)

  • Was A Pakistani
    Sep 23, 2011 - 10:14AM

    BEST THING FOR PAKISTANIS AND BEST FOR WORLD WOULD BE US DITCHING PAKISTAN AND STOPPING ALL ITS AID. Recommend

  • Amit
    Sep 23, 2011 - 10:19AM

    We are trembling in US after this Pak warning.

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  • Clifton
    Sep 23, 2011 - 10:21AM

    “You will lose funding and your economy will be plunged into chaos just like the rest of your country”, Hillary Rodham Clinton tells FoxNews.

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  • Sep 23, 2011 - 10:27AM

    Please stop calling a banana an apple ..

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  • Was A Pakistani
    Sep 23, 2011 - 10:29AM

    @Clifton:
    Shows US is not going to hide its frustration and I believe they are ready to go cold turkey.Recommend

  • Maher
    Sep 23, 2011 - 10:29AM

    Its time to sell USD and transfer all FC into other strong currencies.. In this way US economy will face a hard time….

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  • ayesha
    Sep 23, 2011 - 10:33AM

    USA cannot lose what it does not have.
    Pakistan has chosen to provide sanctuary to Afghan Taliban and Haqqani network who attack NATO troops with impunity and run back to Pakistan where they are safe.
    Yes- Pakistan does provide a route for the NATO logistics trucks and is well compensated for that. This makes it a transactional relationship. And even that is not reliable since dozens of NATO trucks are burnt or looted and no security is provided. US has been actively reducing the % of goods transported through Pakistan and the goal is to get it down to 25% by year-end 2011.

    On the other hand what Pakistan gets from US ins not just the Kerry Lugar aid but also significant military aid plus supportive decisions from IMF, World Bank and ADB. Also 40% of Pak exports (which is the one bright spot in Pak economy) go to US.

    Insted of advising the US to hide the truth, she should review whether the things US accuses Pak of are true and whether they are even in Pak’s own interests Recommend

  • Observer
    Sep 23, 2011 - 10:35AM

    The escalation in diplomatic tension is a normal happening. No heavens can fall with the words of a US commander who has miserably failed in the discharge of his own duties. Remember General Mcrystal who was asked to resign simply for speaking the truth – all about the incongruent internal policies that ruined their own internal position.

    In academic sense, it will be an interesting comparison to re-visit actions and words of US leadership now about Afghanistan and what they did and said during an embarrassed withdrawl from Vietnam.

    It is not only Pakistanis who learn nothing from history. The trail leads us to the cosy context of northern hemisphere as well!

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  • Was A Pakistani
    Sep 23, 2011 - 10:40AM

    @Maher:
    You mean globally or just Pakistan? How does it impact the asset one holds?

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  • Foxbat
    Sep 23, 2011 - 10:44AM

    Hmmm….. lets see what will happen to Pakistan if just the EU and US impose trade sanctions

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  • Abdul Lateef
    Sep 23, 2011 - 10:46AM

    Pakistan should now straight forwardly tell USA to trust its efforts and cooperation with US in War Against terror because we are the only frontline ally who has sustained physically and financially. And if still America thinks or asks for DO MORE they may loose an ally at any cost.

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  • Raj
    Sep 23, 2011 - 10:47AM

    Pakistan warns US…reminds me of a Hindi film dialog….DEEWAARON PER TANGI BANDOOKON MEIN KARTOOOS NAHIN HOTE

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  • Shahrukh kazmi
    Sep 23, 2011 - 10:49AM

    I think we should stop criticizing and start supporting our country now and by country i do not mean government, Its time to be United.

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  • Faiz
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:01AM

    We Pakistani want that US stopped her aid to Pakistan, because, debt is a curse. And also read the book “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man” by John Perkins, in which the author discussed what are the purposes of aid to a developing country.
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  • A J Khan
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:01AM

    Some sore Indians wants to see USA fighting their War with Pakistan. Sorry bunnya !!! Its not going to happen.

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  • Bilal
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:02AM

    Stupid move. Shouldn’t have done it. Better would be get rid of haqqani network, and stop funding terrorists, destroy Miranshah hideouts, rather than doing this. Sure, Pakistan is safe due to its nuclear bomb, and America can’t afford destabilising it but Islamabad keeps on pushing itselves to destabilisation.

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  • Maher
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:03AM

    @Was Pakistani….. US economy is already facing downturns, if we convert our foreign reserve in other currencies it will definitely impact US economy…I think impact will be not too big but that will shake US economy… May be other countries of the world also convert their currencies from USD….We know that fighting with US in battle field is not easy and we may face hard time so why not fight on economic grounds….

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  • moon
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:03AM

    @ayesha: USA has every thing to lose there lady. Hope you are not in U.S. mass media mind-set and truly know what is its like getting out of Afghanistan beaten badly. Check Russian and British sentiments when they were beaten alike.
    On the other hand, Pakistan and Afghanistan became good toys for the USA & NATO forces, now turning into toy-bombs. Come-on guys offer sincere apology and get out of that region. Or another Vietnam is already in place for USA….Recommend

  • faraz
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:03AM

    I thought all along we received the aid

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  • Bilal
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:07AM

    The quicker Pakistan severs this relationship, the better. We are addicted to the US’s divisive agenda and dollars like heroine addicts. Time to go through a period for weaning off, re-invention and renaissance. Time to focus back on Pakistan and get our house in order with no external strings attached.

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  • Zeya bacha
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:16AM

    The american cannot handle the situation and it is very easy for them to blame others. Why didnt they kill Haqqani two years back when Pakistani intelligence shared with them that he is residing close to NATO forces in Afghanistan???

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  • Sep 23, 2011 - 11:16AM

    @Clifton:
    Most important thing in economy is growing food. Alhamdulilah Pakistan can do it. Even Cubans did it and they have the best healthcare system in the world with crippling sanctions for decades. Sure imported products will be missed by handful of people but chances are they already have dual nationality or plans to run out of country.

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  • Sajid
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:17AM

    If US stops it’s annual charity. If US and its allies stop all trade with Pakistan (Pakistan’s nearly 40-50% exports go to US and Europe, Japan). If you are subjected to trade embargoes. If IMF and WB stop bailing Pakistan out repeatedly from verge of economical collapse. If the little foreign investment pulls out. All of you banawatti ghairatmands will die in hunger, no country will need to conspire against you, you will be cause of your own death. Your own stupidity will finally put you to rest, deservedly!
    China doesn’t buy from you, it only sells, so don’t fool yourself. Saudi will shun you too, even if it doesn’t shun you otherwise, it will ruin your country anyway! Only idiots can be so confident on surviving in isolation, your mangoes and oranges can never earn you a living! Recommend

  • Sep 23, 2011 - 11:18AM

    @Faiz:
    Thanks for the info.

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  • Kallu Mama
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:19AM

    @Maher:

    Wake up Pakistan – your plate is full now ( with Karachi Korma, Haqqani Haleem, Floods Falooda, Baloch Batata Curry and what not ) and you want to pile more than you can chew.

    Here we are talking of Pak US relations, now consider Pak sells whatever meagre dollars it has, tell me in the bargain who bleeds more ? Pak or USA

    Much better for you to to toe the US line , and be happy as a client stae of USA

    Khuda Hafiz

    Kallu Mama

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  • Sep 23, 2011 - 11:19AM

    Pakistan has taken the stance in this regard is good and based on principles.

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  • Shailesh Bhavsar
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:19AM

    Dear friends in Pakistan

    Please wake up from your Paranoid that US cannot do without Pak. Unfortunately, all incidents of terrorism across the world (forget India) points fingers on Pakistan’s involvement – directly or indirectly. Has any body in Pakistan given a thought on this statement coming from other countries. Pakistan is fed up of India blaming it for all terror attacks in its country but now your long trusted friends in the US are also blaming Pak for such incidents.

    The Govt in Pak and its citizens urgently need to introspect its current approach there is nothing like Good Taliban and Bad Taliban.

    The earlier this is acknowledged, the better it is for all in Pakistan

    Good Luck to you’ll in Pakistan Recommend

  • Sep 23, 2011 - 11:21AM

    @Foxbat:
    Last time I checked EU is nearing collapse unless bailed out by European tax payers. As for US things are not bright either with 40 million or so on food stamps. Only Swiss are having referendum to block gold sale. Chavez is getting his Gold back from Western banks.

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  • Bilal
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:22AM

    The USAID hasn’t really done any good other than filling up the swiss bank accounts. The only thing I’m worried about is Islamabad destabilising.

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  • Jamal
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:25AM

    It seems plausible, if we look to Islamabad’s side of the story. Maybe, maybe America is just making this up to get its roots deep in Pakistan. We know America’s desperate to get into Pakistan and Pakistan has been resisting.

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  • sree
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:33AM

    @A J Khan:
    So what do you call the ever increasing number of drone strikes and the US ground operation to kill Osama bin laden!

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  • Sep 23, 2011 - 11:34AM

    @moon: Even if you are right about vietnam repeating all over again, you are missing something quite important here. Irrespective who lost or won that war, USA still continued to be economically and military super power and vietnam is still a struggling nation. No body remembers vietnam except for vietnam war. Nobody remembers iraq after iraq war, nobody talked about Afghanistan after Russia war, I hope you are smart enough to infer the rest. Sometimes you have to follow wisdom rather than following blind macho-ism.

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  • Arindom
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:37AM

    “lose and ally”???Great!!
    Time for PAK to well and truly join the China’s Friends Club — North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, Sudan and Burma!!!

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  • Cautious
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:43AM

    If the American accusations are correct then Pakistan isn’t much of an ally anyway — so Khar’s threat doesn’t really carry much weight – does it?

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  • Usman Ayub
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:46AM

    US : First Al-Qaeda than Taliban and now Haqqani’s :

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  • Pundit
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:51AM

    @A J Khan: Watching the non stop batterring that Pakistan is getting is fun enough…even if no fighting happens.
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  • Was A Pakistani
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:52AM

    @Maher:
    Ok! lets accept your assessment… We sell the USD 17 billion of it. It makes a run on dollar… China loses out on the 1 trillion dollar reserve and the arabs lose something in same.. Fuel prices go up… USD dips to such an extent the US exports become more affordable… US starts exporting… your factories dry out… fuel is high hence all the things go expensive leading to people going hungry and we dont have the money to feed them. electricity bills increase so does the load shedding and we further lose as we dont have a functional economy… US is still facing trouble but since $ is so cheap that outsourced work can now return to US thus adding to economy.
    So tell me how does your assertion help you?
    Dont you think we should act smart and take advantage of benefits than always settling scores.

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  • Was A Pakistani
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:54AM

    @Moise:
    Where do you live? Have you been to Germany? I know there is a correction in economy but Germany and Benelux have largely defied recession. They have problems but still ruling them out doesnt make sense. I mean of all the countries us ruling any country out.

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  • Rizwan
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:55AM

    One has to define friendship US is a friend fine but do not take dictation from them .

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  • Sep 23, 2011 - 12:01PM

    @Shailesh Bhavsar:
    When the robbers on your doors would you sit inside and do introspection or try to fight back?

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  • Antanu
    Sep 23, 2011 - 12:09PM

    dont worry….us is just looking for an escape goat. Today its pakistan next it may be india. U can not trust us for anything.their lust for power and blood is to overpowering to fathom.

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  • Foxbat
    Sep 23, 2011 - 12:15PM

    @ Moise:

    What ever is happening in Europe is basically far far away from whats happening in Pak… eventually whatever happens here affects all ( EU and Swiss) the repercussions of Greek default is known and holders of the Greek Euro bonds will suffer right now how to save the banks involved is being sought (long story here and also Swiss is affected by all this and I am in Swiss )

    However Pakistan needs to decide what it wants to do ..Its evident that now the international community is really fed up with this game.

    Sanctions from EU will destroy whatever is left of the Pakistan economy.Irrespective of whatever that’s happening in the Euro Zone.Recommend

  • Galneco
    Sep 23, 2011 - 12:17PM

    @ayesha: The US has also sheltered anti-Pakistan terrorists in Afghanistan, from where they’ve been routinely launching cross-border raids into Pakistan, groups such as the TTP, LeJ, SSP and Nuristan Taliban. The US will have more credibility if it first goes after those groups and controls its side of the border before making any demands of Pakistan. Pakistan is just a scapegoat for the US’ own failure to protect its fortress of an embassy against no more than 8 assailants for over 20 hours at a location more than 100 miles away from Pakistan.

    Also, in the 2010-2011 fiscal year alone Pakistan received more than $10 billion worth of remittances from overseas Pakistanis (not all of it came from the US), that’s more than the Kerry-Lugar money.Recommend

  • M. A. Mughal
    Sep 23, 2011 - 12:26PM

    If USA stopped all its aids to Pakistan, that will be a blessing in disguise for Pakistanis,
    Its all frustrations, frustrations and frustrations from the part of USA, who after 10 years could not win a battle in Afghanistan and now they are trying to make Pakistan a scapegoat.

    But remember one thing, Pakistani nation although looks divided but when ever such thing arised in the past, when any country showed aggression against Pakistan, the nation become united and once it become united, no one can beat us,

    do’nt forget Pakistan is a nuclear state and have the capability to defend its soil, its a different matter that concerned authorities have kept their eyes closed for some reason and once they are fully awake, oh God save all human being.

    Never ever try to test the patient of Pakistani nation, we are united in case of any agression and fully behind our beloved armed forces to defend our mother land.

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  • Hxnain
    Sep 23, 2011 - 12:37PM

    @Shailesh Bhavsar
    1- US being a friend? well,everybody in Pakistan takes US as a “fair weather friend”. This newly found love was also out of need. Its only military and ruling class who dont want to leave this unneeded blanket bacause many of them will have to eventually settle in US post retirement or elite class with childen calling islamabad “Izlamabad” and having a US citizenship. Neither US has taken or will take a stake in the betterment of an average man in street in Pakistan. It’s actually very funny of Americans that they wonder on why do muslim population in general dislikes them without realizing what have they contributed to them rather than taking away from them. Taliban, Al Quaida, Haqqani all are the “gifts” of US to this world from Afghan Russian war. Its just like, one creats a beast to kill hundreds and then kill thousands in order to kill the beast it has created.
    2- The culture of religious extremeism was introduced,nurtured and financed by US for hiring a force of mercenaries in Afghanistan to protect its interest, then it altogather abondoned them without proper disposing them. Did america care about warlords, taliban and Haqqani before 9/11? They didn’t care how many afghans lost lives just because all they cared was about themselve (and even to date, US openly states that all this WoT is to protect americans). 5 Million Afghan refugies didn’t come to Pakistan because they had a dream last night. Riddled by hunger and no job, madrissas offered a perfect place for them to not only live,study but also get something to eat two times a day. Will US accept that?
    3- Its sometime quite interesting how our Indian friends make a loud hue and cry about war on terror, If they are so concerned and sincere why doesn’t GoI send its troops to afghanistan to fight the Haqqani and both (Bad and Good) taliban? it would certainly be a worth contribution towards making this world more peaceful……Recommend

  • gghghghggf
    Sep 23, 2011 - 12:40PM

    china will attack america

    if america attack pakistan

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  • John B
    Sep 23, 2011 - 12:43PM

    Words should be carefully chosen when responding.
    She comes out quite inexperienced, agitated and animated. Not a character for a diplomat. She should know. She studied hospitality management. Recommend

  • moon
    Sep 23, 2011 - 12:50PM

    @Call me Troll: Well talking of smartness, pal I ain’t forging any previous US “expeditions”… They have done good in the past (good in terms of realizing “survival for the fittest” theory). Snake charmers are always prone to snake bites, usually they die of that. US has gone too far in its quest. To a certain degree its a point of no return for US, they are struggling on a number of fronts. Furthermore, US hadn’t got such mass economic down fall during Vietnam or previous Iraq war. Now they have it all… Btw, After Iraq war, US is still tied down to it, and after Afghan War, Russia broke down. So definitely deep worries are on ground for USA…

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  • Sep 23, 2011 - 12:50PM

    @Was A Pakistani:
    Here is reply from China and Japan since no one else is buying European bonds.

    “Officials from China and Japan, the world’s second- and third-biggest economies, indicated that their support for Europe will have limits and the region needs to solve its own debt crisis. Japanese Finance Jun Azumi said in Washington today that while his nation can buy European Financial Stability Facility bonds if needed, there is no blank check. “At the margin we can do quite a bit to help,” Chinese central bank Deputy Governor Yi Gang said in a panel discussion yesterday at the International Monetary Fund in the same city. At the same time, “the real solution of the European sovereign debt crisis has to be done by Europeans themselves.” Good luck in that whole Europeans coming up with a solution: after all it was mere hours ago that France’s Baroin said that the Eurozone is “open to support from others.”

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  • Clifton
    Sep 23, 2011 - 12:52PM

    @Was A Pakistani
    I agree with your sentiments to some extent. We (current Pakistanis) need to cut ourselves off from the addiction of depending on foreign aid – and that will wake up the people of Islamabad that the hundreds of projects that they take on (without realizing where the money is coming from, hoping it’s from aid) and finally make them accountable.

    The short term effect on the economy however will be disastrous: sharp devaluation of the rupee, hyper inflation, etc. etc. Perhaps it’ll make us stronger and more self reliant in the long run, but the question is, will the floor crumble completely below our feet in the short run. Given my microscopic view from the ground here in Pakistan, corruption and malaise has permeated every institution in the country. This may be the wake up call we so desperately need but I fear there may not be the safety net the institutions that remained once the government fell (or was made to fall) last time around.

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  • faraz
    Sep 23, 2011 - 12:53PM

    The delusions of a bankrupt state on IMF lifeline is just amazing. Default could trigger a collapse of the state; there are vicious ethnic, religious, sectarian, criminal and local gangs out there which will take over the state. There are nationalist movements in every corner of the country; defualt would further weaken the writ of the state and could lead to fragmentation.

    I think US wont land troops in Waziristan; there could be an increase in drone strikes but nothing more

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  • Clifton
    Sep 23, 2011 - 12:57PM

    @ Maher, @ Was a Pakistani

    If Pakistan sells or converts its 17B USD in foreign reserves it will have zero impact on the USD dollar. You actually think there will be a run on the dollar based on this? 17BN of currency change is like a fart in a hurricane.

    On the other hand if the US stops supporting our economy and embargoes our exports, our currency will collapse (eventually). Lets not have the illusion that we are like Iran and can bear such an embargo. Iran’s GDP per capita is 5x Pakistan with International embargoes on it and it exports and inelastic commodity: oil.

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  • chandran
    Sep 23, 2011 - 1:01PM

    doshmani be barabar loguse karanahai dushmani with US never possible
    she need some more diplomatic skill.

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  • Saira Rehman
    Sep 23, 2011 - 1:13PM

    To my mind, Pak-US relationship are heading towards serious and completely unexpected situation. Soon Pakistan has to make certain hard-to-take decisions, which would be the defining feature for the future of Pakistan. Recommend

  • Abbas
    Sep 23, 2011 - 1:16PM

    Dear its a USA s old tectic to blame any one after thire work done,
    as all knows USA is completly faild in Afghanstan nw he wants to blame pakistan fot it
    All high level authorites are nw confuse how to fully blame pakistan
    cz thire admistration completly fail
    n u wana make Senction
    why?
    Is Usa a Lord of the world?what ever they wana do thay can??
    My dear thre is Only One God who is watching the Evil things of USA
    Beaware one they USA’s whole nation could bear the eveil act of USA s govt
    cz they have blood hands from many inocents lives
    Wait For the God anger
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  • Maher
    Sep 23, 2011 - 1:30PM

    @ Was A Pakistani…. If we sell $ than demand for $ will decrease and supply will increase….Simple rule more supply less demand prices will be down……We have to make start from some where… We are buying more Dollar, is it benefiting our economy or US economy ???

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  • Sep 23, 2011 - 1:43PM

    @Ayesha. US is well aware of all this because, this is the way which we (Pakistan) adopted to tear apart USSR which was then more powerful as well as bigger than what is USA today. I mean, whichever world power, whether it be USA, USSR or British Rule, when it comes to poking nose into Pakistan, it always resulted in being chopped into small pieces and ending up in being good for nothing. USA is destined to witness exactly the same what USSR (poor) underwent. So, have patience and do not speak up, because, what USA cannot dear to unveil in public, the same will not serve you any good. Recommend

  • haha
    Sep 23, 2011 - 1:48PM

    funny ,,,, previous was ‘give us aid and fund, otherwise we will continue supporting taliban, laden’

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  • woohoo
    Sep 23, 2011 - 1:59PM

    You can’t lose something you never had

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  • Ahmer Ali
    Sep 23, 2011 - 2:02PM

    Assalam-o-Allaikum Warahmatullah.Now the time has come to talk to US officials from eyeball to eyeball on all the internal and external security conditions because Pakistan has lost already thousands of innocent lives in the war of fake terrorism mostly to defend US interests in Afghanistan and as a consequence of these innocent lives’ sacrifices the US leaders are still seeing Pakistan as a suspected and are threatening Pakistan to be declared as a terrorist state and attacking on Pakistan if possible any time any where and not stopping playing old blame game by accusing the Pakistani intelligence agencies of having links with Taliban and Haqqani group.
    Now the water is seeming going on the head and in this the most crucial conditions our leaders the most especially all political parties must be reunited to defend Pakistan,its nation and its self-reliance and sovereignty and Pakistani leaders and Pakistan Army must never forget it that USA is the enemy of Pakistan and its sovereignty because now all the US’ officials’ harmful intentions about and for Pakistan have been clearly disclosed.Trust Allah Almighty and Insha Allah the Almighty Allah shall never leave you alone and US’ troops are facing the most worst defeat in Afghanistan and to take revenge US’ defeat in Afghanistan the US’ officials are trying to destroy and disrupt Pakistan’s and its sovereignty.Recommend

  • dude
    Sep 23, 2011 - 2:03PM

    now they don’t need Pakistan, the goal is reached, killing of OBL in Pakistan and whatever way you tell no one is going to trust Pakistan after OBL episode.

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  • Azharuddin Masood
    Sep 23, 2011 - 2:08PM

    @A J Khan:
    Believe me Nada, America don’t need to fight with a Stone age country. Even if America stops throwing morsels @ Pakistan then Alhamdulilla Allah willing Pakistan will implode itself.

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  • Zain
    Sep 23, 2011 - 2:11PM

    I dont know what is the credibility of Khar’s “Statement” but its evident from the statement something going to happen between US and PAK in near future

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  • Asad
    Sep 23, 2011 - 2:12PM

    Well done Hina Rabbani Khar..It requires some guts to say what you have said. Salaam to you Ma’am. very well said.

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  • Galneco
    Sep 23, 2011 - 2:22PM

    Let’s say Pakistan goes after the Haqqanis:

    1) Will the US help Pakistan against the onslaught of suicide bombings it will incur in retaliation?
    2) Will the US help Pakistan handle the large numbers of internally displaced refugees that will be produced as a result of the operation?
    3) Will the US keep its side of the border secure this time instead of letting the Haqqanis take shelter in Afghan territory and using it to launch attacks on Pakistan, just like the US did with the TTP, LeJ, SSP and Nuristan Taliban?
    4) Will the US compensate Pakistan for the financial costs it will incur in such an operation, at a time when it is dealing with the floods and the Dengue outbreak?
    5) Will the operation bring the Haqqanis and the Taliban to the negotiating table?
    6) Will the operation make Pakistan secure against the terrorists already based in Afghanistan?
    7) Will the operation prevent the US’ defeat in Afghanistan?
    8) Will the US stop blaming Pakistan for its continuing failure in Afghanistan?

    Please let me know if any of these questions could be answered with a Yes.

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  • Galneco
    Sep 23, 2011 - 2:24PM

    I don’t think it matters much what Hina Rabbani Khar’s qualifications are as a diplomat; her job is only to articulate Pakistan’s policies, not formulate them Recommend

  • Fghafoor
    Sep 23, 2011 - 2:47PM

    I agree with Ms. Khar, Rather we should stop all the cooperation with USA on the so far called war against terrorism UNTIL US Govt apologizes on and terminate Mr. Mullen from his job. I mean not retirement.

    This is ridicules we have lost more Army men than USA
    we have lost more public LIVES than USA
    We have lost everything in our ECONOMY.

    What else they want more???????????????

    I think now this is time for USA to do more and train their forces.

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  • Mom
    Sep 23, 2011 - 3:01PM

    Oh.. Haqqani.. Charlie Wilson once called you “Goodness Personified.. ” And you even sat with Reagan.. What happened to you buddy now?

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  • Sep 23, 2011 - 3:01PM

    Since Pakistan is working as partner with U.S.A. for eradication of terrorism from the country so they must be ready to face these allegations. Another side U.S.A. is also not sincere to fight against the terrorism due to their defeat in various regions. If there is any proof available with US Intelligence regarding the availability of Haqqani Network in Pakistan then US must confidentially share with Pakistan.Recommend

  • Azharuddin Masood
    Sep 23, 2011 - 3:04PM

    @A J Khan:
    Believe me Nada…. All America needs to do is to just freez throwing Morsels at Pakistan and ailing rogue Pakistan will die its own death.Recommend

  • bashir
    Sep 23, 2011 - 3:27PM

    I fail to understand whether USA is a friend or a foe

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  • Asim Khan
    Sep 23, 2011 - 3:45PM

    US, CIA and US Generals in particular have failed in Afghanistan miserably and they use Pakistan as an scapegoat for their failures and incompetence. After 10 years of occupation the ISAF can’t even protect Kabul, this is the level of their failure and incompetence. Terrorists operating from ISAF controlled Afghanistan infiltrate our border and kill innocent civilians and security personnel have been killed number of times. But Pakistan never pointed finger on ISAF but complained.

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  • Umar
    Sep 23, 2011 - 3:46PM

    thankfully someone atleast showed that Pakistanis too have some say, people here just have the aid to discuss, nobody realizes the cost Pakistan has paid in the war against terror. The number of lives that have been lost, infrastructure, schools, hotels, worship places destroyed. That just did not use to happen before we were involved in this war on terror. Rather then needing us to be grateful, it should be US that should be thankful to us for standing with them in their war. Okay if we are partners then we both have played important roles! I dont see any acknowledgement from US rather they just have the complains.

    Besides US itself doesn’t seem to have any sincere policies to get done with this war on terror. Besides they are creating more terrorists just through killing civillians through those drone attacks. They got to think just what on earth doesn’t let any common Pakistani(i am not talking about those dual nationality holders) accept US as our friends? Get off your horses people, we are ourselves struggling to maintain peace in our country, its hardly an objective to cause dis rest in other countries.

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  • Pundit
    Sep 23, 2011 - 3:47PM

    whether the knife falls on the fruit or the fruit falls on the knife….
    end result is the same!

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  • Pundit
    Sep 23, 2011 - 3:49PM

    “Pakistan warns US: ‘You will lose an ally’ if accusations continue”

    Why? where will the ally go?

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  • Khashatria
    Sep 23, 2011 - 4:00PM

    India should take the lead and send forces into Afghanistan; we can be a better slave to Americans than Pakis, We will sacrifice any number of men for Uncle Sam, after all we are America’s strategic partner!

    Since we are an upcoming superpower, we need to have our own people running the show in Afghanistan, we can teach these Talibans some lessons… we will succeed where Soviets and Americans have failed, JAY HIND…

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  • kazi jawed akhter
    Sep 23, 2011 - 4:18PM

    God forbid.Is it going to be like famous wolf and the lamb story.

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  • AG
    Sep 23, 2011 - 4:19PM

    @Clifton:

    and how is US economy any better than Pakistan’s economy? Wake up!

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  • MK
    Sep 23, 2011 - 4:46PM

    Pakistan Zindabad. . .There is a great saying that, who are US friends always in loss and who their enemies always get benefits.

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  • HRK
    Sep 23, 2011 - 4:46PM

    Pakistan had been telling the US since day one that you are going to lose this war and then you’ll make us your fall guy. That’s exactly what’s happening now. The US would be giving Pakistan a lot of undue credit if it thinks that that small, weak, decimated country on the brink of collapse is singlehandedly responsible for the defeat of the world’s only superpower and its 40+ NATO allies in Afghanistan at the hands of a bunch of ragtag hillbilly village hicks armed with little more than IEDs, suicide vests and stingers.

    Hina Rabbani Khar’s right; blame games and scapegoating won’t help the US win this war, these are just stress relievers meant to vent out frustration over a side-issue.

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  • Kallu Mama
    Sep 23, 2011 - 4:54PM

    @gghghghggf:

    You just fantasised “china will attack america
    if america attack pakistan”

    Khuda Hafiz

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  • Yasser
    Sep 23, 2011 - 5:31PM

    Prime minister said very well that US can and can not live without Pakistan. I wish US dare to move with out Pakistan as Pakistani nation needed it the most.
    Atmost US and its adverseries like western countries, IMF, World Bank and ADB will stop Pakistan’s financial aid. The very American Slaves, in form of our leadership, will run away to survive and Pakistani nation will have their chances to get up at their own feet (after a good hard time).Recommend

  • Bangash
    Sep 23, 2011 - 5:59PM

    Baloney !!! US aid is a major source of income for Pakistani politicians, they will lose Pakistan but will not lose free money.Recommend

  • call me crazy
    Sep 23, 2011 - 6:07PM

    @Khashatria:
    in your dreams imposter,we are too smart to become a slave to uncle sam,instead of sending troops to afghanistan we are sending construction workers so that afghans have schools,hospitals,dams and a better future.what is your contribution there?

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  • KDP
    Sep 23, 2011 - 6:33PM

    @Faiz:

    Aid to Pakistan is not creating debt. All American Aid to Pakistan is charity.Recommend

  • Amjad
    Sep 23, 2011 - 7:30PM

    Put things into perspective. The US and the West created the Haqqanis to fight the Soviets and now they are out of control. They alone are not responsible for the West’s failure in Afghanistan but it becomes convenient to just blame Pakistan. This has been the Afghani game all along; Blame all of your problems on Pakistan but no one in the world believes it.

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  • Sep 23, 2011 - 7:37PM

    No need to debate and worry. Prepare yourself to face the ground reality and a worst situation if that must come. We should respect a free world but protect our honour. Let the USA know that Pakistanis are different.

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  • Dave
    Sep 23, 2011 - 8:04PM

    @M. A. Mughal:
    No country need to attack Pakistan so there is no use of nuclear weapons or arm forces. You can see yourself, Pakistan is bleeding from all parts..Karanchi, Balochistan, day to day sucide attacks, Shia-Sunni, Sunni-Ahmedi etc. Pakistan will be divided by its own policy and eventually it will fragment in pieces as it did in past. Unfortunately people of Pakistan made to believe in conspiracy theories.

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  • Hammer
    Sep 23, 2011 - 8:05PM

    I can’t see the American or NATO winning a decisive war against Taliban or the Terrorist but I can surely see Pakistan being returned back to the Stone Age. It wouldn’t take much because the Pakistani Leaders are already working on it. “Stone Age” with or without American and NATO Aid Is well underway.

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  • observer
    Sep 23, 2011 - 8:22PM

    @Galneco

    With reference to your questions,

    1) YES

    2) YES

    3) YES

    4) YES

    5) NO. As both will be eliminated without state support from Pakistan, negotiations will not be required.The fate of TNSM in Swat shows it is possible.

    6) YES

    7) YES. If Pakistan and US could defeat USSR, why not.

    8) YES.Actually it is a nobrainer. If Pakistan stops conniving with the terrorists there is no reason why US should continue to blame Pakistan.

    There you have your answers. What next?

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  • Ali Tanoli
    Sep 23, 2011 - 8:46PM

    its a long list may be time has come to say No.

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  • deepak
    Sep 23, 2011 - 9:02PM

    this is a joke! Pakistan can not afford to do that.Recommend

  • Thomas
    Sep 23, 2011 - 10:44PM

    @Amit:

    Start to fret! Malik threatened U.S with his big mouth, and now you!. Awesome!!!

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  • Arjun
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:11PM

    You cannot afford to alienate Pakistan

    If that was true, there wouldn’t have been a May 2nd raid.

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  • nayla
    Sep 23, 2011 - 11:34PM

    Good job Hina

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  • Still a Pakistani
    Sep 24, 2011 - 1:34AM

    Initially there were WMD in Iraq, Osama in Afghanistan and now Haqqani Network in Pakistan is becoming a threat, keep noting a couple of more incidents….!
    I think, no brains required, if you are just a Human only, would do…!

    Americans: We know it is still classified; you can tell us but then…. so we are waiting for it to happen…!

    Pakistanis: Everyone please fasten up your seat belts, rollar coaster ride is finally coming to your country…! (Mr 10% you can discuss your share, earlier the better)

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  • True Believer
    Sep 24, 2011 - 3:44AM

    You tellum American cowboys that we not Indians. Its almost month-end.. so please also ask if they have mailed next months check !Recommend

  • Ali
    Sep 24, 2011 - 7:07AM

    I think we should accept all american demands, and focus on the Real Enemy India

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  • narayana murthy
    Sep 24, 2011 - 7:40AM

    With so much overt support for various terrorist organizations by ISI/army, what is the guarantee that the army itself will not stage a fake hijacks of nuclear weapons, hand it over to the militants, to be used against India?!!

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  • islooboy
    Sep 24, 2011 - 9:21AM

    bad idea haqani is supported by local pashtuns and dint taliban take responsibilaty for the attack on us embassy? i have no problems with americans but atacking haqanis is stupid

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  • Galneco
    Sep 24, 2011 - 11:34AM

    @observer: Your replies are all untrue.

    1) No, the US didn’t after Swat and South Waziristan and it will not this time either.
    2) No, not with the US’ economic woes and overwhelming opposition to any further help to Pakistan within the American public.
    3) Absolutely not! The experience of Swat and South Waziristan has shown that the US will most definitely not make its side of the border secure even after Pakistan has repeatedly raised this issue with the US. The US will simply let the Haqqanis take shelter in Afghanistan and set up shop there if they’ll now turn against Pakistan.
    4) No, the US has not done that in the past and will not do so this time
    5) Then why is the US trying to negotiate with the Taliban and has even independently approached the Haqqanis in the past? It is nothing but self-delusion to think that they will be eliminated without support from Pakistan because the Taliban are largely independent and much less reliant on Pakistan now. The US couldn’t eliminate them in 10 years it is not going to eliminate them now. You talk about the fate of the TSNM in Swat; TSNM fled to Afghanistan where it’s now living in complete safety!
    6) No it will not because the terrorists based in Afghanistan are separate and operate openly under the noses of the US and probably with their consent.
    7) No it will not, the Haqqanis aren’t the real problem, the Taliban and the broad public support they enjoy in Afghanistan is. Pretending that taking out the Haqqanis is the magical solution to the war in Afghanistan is just more wishful thinking.
    8) That’s funny, the exact same thing can be said about the US who has been openly sheltering the TTP, LeJ, and SSP, among others, letting them use Afghan territory to launch attacks on Pakistan. The US will continue to blame Pakistan no matter what, simply because it absolutely needs a scapegoat to blame its own failures on in its ill-thought war that it has lost.
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  • Shane
    Sep 24, 2011 - 11:41AM

    Look, I’m no fan of Pakistan or the Haqqani Network but looking at things objectively, the Americans are using drones in Afghanistan. If the Americans reserve the right to use all tools they have at their disposal, including tools that Pakistan doesn’t like, who’s to tell the Pakistanis they too can’t use all tools they have to secure their own interests, including tools that the US doesn’t like?Recommend

  • Sep 24, 2011 - 12:24PM

    all of you must support Pakistan as we have sacrificed a lot for the world …US must be ware of her statements… and all of you think same statements going for your country

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  • Ammarttitude
    Sep 24, 2011 - 3:28PM

    USA should keep quiet, after all those casualties (35,000) and all that destruction (of over 89 billion $ US) this is what we’re getting ” stop supporting the Haqqani Network ” , Pakistan should break ties with the US, block the NATO supplies, hunt those terrorists in Pakistan like Raymond Davis, send back America’s ambassador and call Pakistan’s ambassador to the US back home, work with China, Iran, Sri Lanka, Japan, Korea and Arab countries like Turkey, Qatar etc..

    Then Pakistan wont be needing such a backstabber friend like the US – and take my words, US needs Pakistan more than Pakistan needs the US, their 150,000 NATO solders would die if Pakistan wants it to be like that..

    Message from a 19 year old Pakistani boy..Recommend

  • Sep 24, 2011 - 5:55PM

    the US has been patient with Pakistan too long it is the time for they the Pakistan to act aganist the terrrosit in north waziristanRecommend

  • R. Khan
    Sep 24, 2011 - 7:01PM

    I see bad days for Pakistan unless they wake up from deep slumber!

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  • Still a pakistani
    Sep 24, 2011 - 8:02PM

    Good time to say good bye to America and rely on own resources. Better shake hand with Iran and China openly now, it would be a twister for american think tanks….!
    Good relations and trade with these two countries are enough for survival even if there are sanctions from US and EU…!

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  • Johnny
    Sep 24, 2011 - 8:16PM

    If any one wants to have the right perspective on this, please read the editorials by the leading english newspapers in pakistan for the past few weeks.

    Every action has it reaction but unfortunately actions created by few is going to affect millions. May be chaos theory is unfolding infornt of our eyes.

    I read some where that Kuran discourages praising some one if he/she is not worthy of it.Please do not praise those who kill others.

    If people with wrong ideology can sacrifice their life, why not those who have good intentions atleast fight it out.

    Good always wins.

    Hope your country will come out of this problems and become a leading nation in the future.

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  • observer
    Sep 24, 2011 - 10:36PM

    @Galeco

    You talk about the fate of the TSNM in Swat; TSNM fled to Afghanistan where it’s now living in complete safety!

    OK, so drive Haqqanis out to Afghanistan where they may live in ‘complete safety’.

    the US who has been openly sheltering the TTP, LeJ, and SSP, among others, letting them use Afghan territory to launch attacks on Pakistan.

    Brilliant, so the US signed peace treaties with TTP ceding Waziristan to TTP.
    And it was a US court that let LeJ and SSP killers out?
    And it was the Law Minister of US Punjab who was seen with them?
    And the place where Shia pilgrims got massacred is under US control?

    As I said most brilliant lies so far.
    http://tribune.com.pk/story/258789/lej-leader-ghulam-rasool-placed-under-house-arrest/

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  • Galneco
    Sep 25, 2011 - 11:00AM

    @Observer:

    Also, just like the TTP is not included in the US government’s list of terrorist organizations, neither is the Haqqani Network (because it will “scuttle chances for peace”). This is why Pakistan has every reason to fear that if it goes after that group the US will shelter it and use it against Pakistan, just like it did with those other groups.

    Also, Marc Sageman, ex-CIA, says whoever is in power in Kabul will have to make a deal with the Haqqanis, but you are advocating military action against them here.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/25/world/asia/brutal-haqqani-clan-bedevils-united-states-in-afghanistan.html

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  • junaid abdul
    Sep 25, 2011 - 12:25PM

    Pakistan Shouldn’t warn the USSR, Erm I mean USA, lol

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  • Galneco
    Sep 25, 2011 - 4:36PM

    @Express Tribune: I had posted 2 comments today in response to Observer, not one. Thank you for posting the latter one of them, please post my first one as well, it would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you.

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  • Galneco
    Sep 25, 2011 - 6:40PM

    @Observer

    “OK, so drive Haqqanis out to Afghanistan where they may live in ‘complete safety’.”
    So they could continually attack Pakistan from there while the US does nothing? Just like how it played out with the TTP, LeJ, SSP and Nuristan Taliban? Sure. Pakistan will definitely take that under advisement.
    http://www.jamestown.org/programs/gta/single/?txttnews[ttnews]=35706&cHash=c186410c2e

    “Brilliant, so the US signed peace treaties with TTP ceding Waziristan to TTP.”
    First of all it ceded Swat, and that was something Pakistan tried to bring peace but when it didn’t work it attacked them but then the US withdrew its troop presence and let the TTP take shelter in Afghanistan from where they’ve been attacking Pakistan with complete impunity ever since.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/7590182/Pakistani-military-officials-claim-Nato-forces-failed-to-capture-Taliban.html
    http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99/ID/674796/NATO-Commander-Pakistan-army-chief-discuss-security.aspx

    “And it was a US court that let LeJ and SSP killers out?”
    They were let out because of poor witness protection, not because Pakistan wanted them freed, those acquittals are in no way indications that Pakistan somehow supports them.

    “And it was the Law Minister of US Punjab who was seen with them?”
    No, it was a CIA contractor Raymond Davis whose cellphone was found to have records of contact with the LeJ.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/8316286/Detained-US-official-in-telephone-contact-with-Islamic-terror-group.html
    http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-02-22/news/286215941raymond-davis-taliban-mobile-phones

    “And the place where Shia pilgrims got massacred is under US control?”
    If you mean Balochistan, it’s ridden with an insurgency that is being backed from out of Afghanistan. Just ask UN workers in Kabul.
    http://home.comcast.net/~christinefair/pubs/11springFair.pdf

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