The five-member bench, which is headed by Justice Chaudhry, said it was not happy with the “one-sided” arguments being presented by Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) counsel Farogh A Naseem.
The chief justice asked why the MQM had not presented a list of other innocent people killed in Karachi and why only a list of party workers and supporters had been presented.
During the hearing, the MQM counsel also accused the Awami National Party (ANP) and Lyari gang members of involvement in incidents of kidnappings and killings. The chief justice asked where the names of ANP members accused of target killings were in the First Information Reports (FIR) filed.
The MQM counsel said more than 36 people had been killed and their homes torched in Pashtun-dominated areas on August 13. He argued that the MQM had pointed out 26 points in the city where there was a dire need of setting up checkposts.
The MQM counsel also requested the court to review Zulfiqar Mirza’s statement in which he claimed to have issued 300,000 thousand arms licences.
Advocate General (AG) of Sindh Abdul Fatah Malik had earlier presented a report on the 1992 Army Operation in Karachi to the bench as the suo motu hearing on violence in the city resumed.
Meanwhile, Baloch Ittehad counsel Jameel Ahmed has requested the court to call in the army to control the law and order situation in Karachi.
Officials of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) have arrived in court and will be appearing before the bench.
On Tuesday, Chief of the paramilitary Pakistan Rangers Sindh had called Karachi’s situation graver than that of terrorism-hit South Waziristan but solvable once the state decides to act against criminals.
“Karachi, unfortunately, has political, ethnic and religious polarisation. The problem begins as an ethnic one but once that is quelled, religious violence erupts,” Maj-Gen Ijaz Chaudhry told the five-member bench of the Supreme Court.
Updated from Print edition (below)
Karachi violence: Democracy must deliver now, says SC
The men in uniform have always used a breakdown in law and order to send a democratic government packing, the Supreme Court chief justice has said, warning a seemingly hapless democratic government to put its act together and secure Karachi.
“We have closed the door on a military intervention but at the same time, democracy has to deliver while adhering to the Constitution,” Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry said, as the court continued its proceedings into the Karachi violence suo motu case on Thursday.
The bench, which had earlier criticised Sindh’s police force for inherent weaknesses in its investigations, dwelled on the failings of the political system which had led to the massacre in Karachi that saw over 400 people killed.
“The entire situation in Karachi is due to the policy of remaining in or grabbing power,” said a member of the bench. “If all political parties expel criminal elements [within their ranks], Sindh can become the safest area.”
Referring to appointments at senior police positions, the CJ said that as many as 14 officers who had been posted had no training. “We have a list. People from [unrelated organisations such as] the Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority (Pemra) and National Accountability Bureau (NAB) were brought in. Two of them are retired military colonels. They had never seen a police academy,” he said, addressing the Muttahida Qaumi Movement’s (MQM) counsel Farogh Naseem who opened the party’s arguments at the hearing.
“Why did the MQM keep quiet on such postings?” the CJ asked.
“The MQM repeatedly opposed such appointments but as coalition partners, we were powerless and hence left the coalition,” Naseem said.
But the bench rejected the argument, saying the MQM had stuck to its government. “The parties in the coalition must be more worried about bodies in gunny bags than clinging to power,” observed Justice Sarmad Jalal Osmany.
“Why is the situation’s gravity not being realised?” the CJ said. “It will invite those who come and say ‘my dear countrymen’,” he said, referring to the army.
(Read: Army voices its concerns over Karachi)
Naseem reiterated that the MQM had walked out of the coalition for the people’s sake. “No, you came out for yourself,” Justice Osmany responded.
“Improved law and order is in the interest of the party and the people it represents,” the MQM counsel said. “MQM is a clear and most dominant stakeholder,” Naseem said, citing the results of the 2008 general elections.
Giving figures of MQM workers and supporters killed between 2008 and 2011, Naseem said that the party remained in the coalition as “a powerless component” to keep Karachi stable and avoid derailment of democracy.
Holding the Peoples’ Amn Committee responsible for killing party workers, MQM alleged complicity between rival parties against MQM.
He said that either the chief justice or a high court judge be appointed to monitor police investigations. “Do you want us to appoint a judge as IG police?” the CJ asked.
Later, the bench was briefed by officials of the Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI) in the committee room. Attorney-General of Pakistan Maulvi Anwarul Haq had earlier informed the bench about the briefing and requested confidentiality.
Hearing was adjourned till Friday, after which the bench will resume proceedings on September 13.
Meanwhile, the Supreme Court has been requested to summon MQM chief Altaf Hussain, former Sindh home minister Zulfiqar Mirza and Interior Minister Rehman Malik in the light of accusations that they have levelled on each other.
The petition has been filed by Advocate Tariq Asad who had earlier moved the court to call the army in Karachi.
“Whether any political party operating in a manner prejudicial to the sovereignty or integrity of Pakistan or indulging in terrorism is not liable to be dissolved/banned under Articles 15 and 16 of Political Parties Order 2002?” the lawyer has asked in his petition.
If the allegations levelled against the MQM are proved, the party and other parties should be banned and the federation should be directed to call the armed forces to conduct a clean-up operation in aid of civil power, Asad prayed.
(With additional reporting by Qaiser Zulfiqar in Islamabad)
Published in The Express Tribune, September 9th, 2011.
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Then who is stopping it. . . . Is not about time for military? Will be good for reviving Karachi's economic health and safety of citizens.
Karachi is cosmopolitan city. Peoples of karachi want peace not unjustice. We live in Karachi, we should know the value of Karachi. Main problems of karachi unstability are Illegal Immigrants(about 25 lacs) who do not know the value of Pakistan espiceilly the Karachi.Our weak, politcal base and international agenda holder Pakistani intelligence agencies, i think we forgot the incident of Mehran Base Karachi, who is responsible. Why the Chief Justice of Pakistan is enjoying Sat and Sun in sensitive & worse condition of karachi. We Pray to Allha for peace in Karachi.
The CJ needs to understand that democracy needs safeguards to function,. If it doesn't it is liable to go off the rails. Proof of the need for safeguards lie in sich disparate countries as India and the US See: http://www.tehelka.com/story_ main50.asp?filename= Ne100911coverstory.asp Time to Rock the Vote Corruption in politics begs for a larger reform than a Lokpal Bill. It requires funding of political parties to be made transparent. Prem Shankar Jha on what ails the system and how to stem the rot http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/09/people-dont-realize-how-fragile-democracy-really-is/244559/ 'People Don't Realize How Fragile Democracy Really Is' http://www.truth-out.org/goodbye-all-reflections-gop-operative-who-left-cult/1314907779#%5B3%5D Goodbye to All That: Reflections of a GOP Operative Who Left the Cult
@Ali Tanoli Not many western government have a two party system. US has one but now even insiders are saying it is malfunctioning. See:http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/09/people-dont-realize-how-fragile-democracy-really-is/244559/ 'People Don't Realize How Fragile Democracy Really Is' http://www.truth-out.org/goodbye-all-reflections-gop-operative-who-left-cult/1314907779#%5B3%5D Goodbye to All That: Reflections of a GOP Operative Who Left the Cult Pakistan needs a PR system.
Military takeover is good for Pakistan...
Has Zulfiqar Mirza, the lion of Sindh, son of the soil filed his cases in court yet? He has a ton of evidence doesn't he? 90% of that evidence is still with him. According to him, one party, and one party only are responsible for all the bloodshed in Karachi and HE CAN PROVE IT.. he even swore on the Quran that it's true!!! And, he's a respected politician, has numerous supporters, and again 'has evidence.' So, if that means getting criminals off the streets, and restoring peace in Karachi, why is he NOT doing the right thing? Why is the CJ not insisting ZM produce all his amazing evidence? If it's all so open and shut (according to ZM) then get it over with right? Otherwise, hold him accountable too.
so well CJ bring in the ARMY please & End this now & kindly open this blocked road on shaheens please we have to face a jam daily
Could that be CJ signalling green light to the Generals?
I think before closing th chapter of this suo moto action; Mr. CJ should take some strong steps of bringing peace Karachi. For that de-politicizing of Police is the major cure and locals of each and every city should have right to serve their city. Imposing LENAs from different cities who are not aware of the demography of Karachi is not the right step. Mr. Cj should ask all the records of the religious schools and should pay surprise visit to all the localities and those religioius schools because the city is not only suffering from ethnic but sectarian also. And don"t forget the gang war in Lyari and everybody is well aware of the history of Rehman Baloch and his successor Uzair. Each and every root cause need to be checked and fixed according to law.
@Ishrat Salim: Well fellow citizen...the end of the comment was intended as a 'tongue in cheek' thing, hence the' :) '.
If anything I think we have as a nation lost respect for our men in uniform because of the deeds of our men/women in parliament. Being raised in a forces family of the days when all our fathers got from their job was the respect of the nation...(money is hardly good for the true soldiers), I have nothing but respect for the institution which has been of course maligned by the actions of some, but is and probably always will be respected for the services of an ordinary man in uniform who risks all for the sake of a higher ideal and others in the time of need. This respect for the forces is a global phenomenon and has been for ages in human history. Our tragedy today is that we do not even have any respect for the person sitting besides us for all we can think about is our immediate and momentary benefit.
@sunny: If you live in Karachi you know that MQM is omnipresent and all pervasive throughout the city barring a few areas. You also know that the party is feared by almost everyone including their own cadres. PPP's hold on the city is nominal and is restricted to Lyari area and even that is questionable. ANP is a newcomer in the city and is not an organized force and their claim to leadership is only based on the fact that there is a sizeable population of Pathans in certain areas so without questions they should be able to represent the Pathans as an inherent right. ANP does not have any programs of social welfare or any kind of efforts to deliver any services to better the lot of their so-called constituency of Pathans. MQM, at least in words, have been claiming, as you know by their efforts to hold meetings in other parts of Pakistan, to represent other ethnicities other than "Urdu speaking" Muhajirs. If they are sincere in that claim it is incumbent upon them to bring in the knowledge of the Supreme Court names of all the victims of the recent killings and mayhem in Karachi without regard to the fact whether they were Urdu speakers or not. I happen to know from my childhood days that there are Punjabis and Pathans settled in Karachi from 60 years ago and many of them speak better Urdu than I do, how can they be any less Karachi's citizens than any so-called "Urdu Speakers" could be????? So basically what I said above, to which you responded, is that MQM needs to be a more responsible party. We need a party that will unite all of us whether we are Sindhis, Punjabis, Balochis, or Pathans as Pakistanis and work to safeguard the rights and lives of all these oppressed and dis-enfranchised communities, not a party that will further divide the divided.
This is the Chief Justice of the same "independent" judiciary which has acquitted dozens of terrorists, even those who were captured during their attack on a police academy. This man is no savior, he is just another pawn.
I don't think so that we will get any justification from present bench of SC in Karachi because we are facing such type of environment for the last five decades. The majors culprit and conspiraters are the rulers of Pakistan in the shape of Jageerdars, Sardars, Nawabs, Chaudhries, Wadaraz who has there own jails and our agencies know very well who don't follow the law and order rule of Pakistan. Why MQM is the only target of operation and what did you get from 1992 operation against MQM, because MQM is the only big political party in Pakistan who has sent educated, poor and medium class people in the parliament. If the operations happened like this in Karachi will never bring any changes until unless not extend operation towardes the big fishes belongs from PPP, ANP, JI, and all others. We don,t have any hope from present bench of SC to get a fair and justified decision. What happened in East Pakistan dont,t we remeber, where are the Hammdur Rehman Commission Report. Why Chief Justice and five members of Judges did not raise this question from ANP, PPP, JI and others to present a list of other innocent people killed in Karachi. In one question raised from CJ why MQM providing the list of their workers and supporters killings not other nationalities, MQM supporter covers the all innocent peoples killed in Karachi.
I think there are crimnals in all parties most of them are on pay rolls of party and i think pakistan should just make a two party democratic sys like many westren countries have its gonna save us from this peoblem forever.
@Tanzeel: Please wake up. Sooner the better.
Please God, let the Military take over this country! Please save us from the curse of this pseudo-democracy!
Please God, destroy the Feudals, who are trying to destroy our country...please get rid of these criminals!
@Arzoo Who else submitted the list of murdered peoples in karachi other than MQM. MQM at least submitted the list of his workers and supporters. Is only MQM responsible for all the remaining ones>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.while other came to see the show and fanning the flames!
@Hairaan , why are you alwyas against an individual ? There are other sane people just presenting their viewpoints . Live and let live unlike Jamate Islami's Ameer .
CJP Mr.Iftikhar Chaudhary, we expect justice from you and your fellow judges. The reality is that MQM is the major stake holder in Karachi and with 85% of the people's mandate, the party and it's millions of voters are the one's who are worst affected by violence. If the abductions and killings are being conducted on the linguistic basis and there is an ongoing genocide of Mohajir Nation then what the court expects from people to say ? Mr. Iftikhar Chaudhary, please give instructions to the security forces in Karachi to take decisive action against extortion mafia, land mafia, drug mafia and Lyari gang war criminals. This is the key to bring peace and prosperity in the city of Karachi.
@Tanzeel,
No not all innocents are supporters of MQM, the pathan/afghan boys picking up trash on the road side are not MQM's supporters, neither are the baloch's, nor the punjabis
I am amazed that why military has not taken over the country despite the grave situation of Karachi and terrorism in rest of the cities?
Your Honor, you and your staff will be the first to legalize and endorse their take over; at least our past history is the evidence. Case closed.
@Tanzeel: You have repeatedly been requested to stop representing your views as those of all Karachites.
The real culprit is tremendous growth in population. No expert knows how much Karachi has grown in recent years. After military operations in Tribal areas, Swat and Baluchistan, millions more have come to Karachi. Only God knows how many of them are terrorists and other criminlas. Before their arrival, Karachi was already full of criminals and Mafia Gangs. Karachi is out of control, our army and LEAs are incapable to handle Karachi. They can just talk, blame others but cannot do anything. Nothing will change, get used to it.
The people who are involved in deteriorating Karachi's law & order situation, were actually showing their foreign bosses that they hold Karachi. They failed and now I feel that circle is tightening against them now and I hope soon their will be again a nice law abiding, intellectual Karachi.
Rangers sources said that a raid was conducted early on Thursday morning in Yusuf plaza where they found a torture cell and large quantity of arms and ammunition.
Whose area is this ?????
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"Situations like Karachi lead to military takeovers" and our CJs and other judges take oaths under PCOs/LFOs and give the unconstitutional takeover legal cover in violation of the constitution.
@Tanzeel: Dont expect any justice...
"Chief of the paramilitary Pakistan Rangers Sindh had called Karachi’s situation graver than that of terrorism-hit South Waziristan but solvable once the state decides to act against criminals."
and here in lies the problem... our political parties and the democratic government does not want an end to these issue for all have their own axes to grind... Time and time again the army officials have said they can start working on these issues IF the government wants, but they don't...so who is to blame??? Of course the Army :)
The real culprits are long gone in hiding after repeated warnings from our Interior Minister. Now the cosmetic operation is going on for low level culprits. The king kongs will be back after operation is over. Lets pray that innocents are not catched to impress media. Images like these give wrong impressions too so Rangers should carry suspects in covered and safe vehicles.
Well, Chief Justice is one hundred percent right to ask for a comprehensive report to point out all the murders and crimes involving all ethnicities in Karachi. MQM is shamelessly presenting only one-sided picture of the 'muhajirs' being victimized. What about the Punjabis, Pathans, Balochs, Sindhis, and whoever else that was killed or maimed? As a person from Urdu speaking community, (and I hate to categorize myself as such since I only consider myself a Pakistani and nothing else) I am disappointed that a party, which not too long ago was making tall claims to penetrate Punjab, Kashmir, and other areas of Pakistan, is so woefully inadequate as to fail to mention victims belonging to other ethnicities. That's why they say 'talk is cheap.' This would have been an excellent time for MQM to prove that they want to represent all the people of Pakistan, by demonstrating their fairness and equal treatment of all. We are a nation of oppressed people not a nation of Sindhis, Punjabis, Balochs, & Pathans. I know that there are many educated people in MQM. It would behoove them well to think to raise their voice for all of us not just for one community. "Rising tide lifts all boats."
Consider Summoning Mr Zulfiqar Mirza and also hear him out. It would add to the information/knowledge that could assist the Honourable court.
I feel no political party should view the break down in law and order in Karachi through a narrow prism of it's own interest. Citizens of Karachi should live in peace and their has to be safety and security of life and property
The chief justice asked why the MQM had not presented a list of other innocent people killed in Karachi and why only a list of party workers and supporters had been presented.
CJ Sahab, In Karachi even other innocents are MQM's supporters (Read not workers).
who is gona Speak for Other Innocents Chief Justice ????
WHO ???????????????????????????