If this latest PTI sit-in was being covered in the entertainment section of newspapers, the report would end with an upbeat “and a good time was had by all”. And with a dharna scheduled every Saturday of Ramazan, the good times will continue to roll. But since the fun and frolicking was ostensibly political, a deeper analysis becomes sadly necessary.
More than even the staunchest PPP jiyala, PTI diehards have learned the art of parroting their chosen one. One attendee at the sit-in patiently explained to me how the judiciary is being unduly timid in its cases against the government. The solution, explained this man who had perfected Imran Khan’s talking points, is that the army must use its ‘full force’ in favour of a supposedly beleaguered Supreme Court. Since the army’s full force includes its nuclear arsenal let us assume that was rhetorical overkill.
Here, then, is the dilemma facing the PTI. To become a viable political party that does something other than be the cool kid at college who throws awesome parties, the PTI needs the army. Given that the PTI spent much of the last decade railing against Musharraf, this requires either schizophrenia or amnesia.
Imran Khan has, according to most observers, spent the last few months cosying up to the GHQ and coordinating his message on drones, the PML-N, PPP and America, all of whom both the army and PTI are opposed to.
Even in a best-case scenario, one which involves lots of ballot-stuffing, the PTI can only play the role of a spoiler in the next general elections. By forming a right-wing bloc with the religious parties, the PTI can capture 10 to 15 National Assembly seats in Punjab, and prevent the PML-N from winning too many seats by taking a slice of their vote and thus allowing the PPP to retain power.
This works out well for the army which, although mistrustful of the PPP, would prefer to deal with the devil it knows rather than an unpredictable Nawaz Sharif. The PML-N leader has made a habit of fighting with every army chief during his previous two terms - Kakar, Karamat, Musharraf. And his recent rhetoric against the army has only reinforced the army belief that he must not be allowed back into power. Thus, it is Imran Khan’s lot in life to be a pawn.
Pawn though he may be, Imran Khan is going to act like he has free will. The theme of his dharna was “Hakumat hatao, mulk bachao”. In trying to remove the government, though, he is giving the PPP its best shot at securing a second term. Party on!
Published in The Express Tribune, August 8th, 2011.
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Dear Bahaudar Khan Shahid
You are absolutely right.Recent vikileaks have further enhanced the image of Imran Khan.He is one of few politicians of Pakistan who speaks the TRUTH.
What he said in Public..... he said the same to Americaln Congress team and to Americal Ambasidar.He does not have two faces like most politicians have in this country.iI am not in the youth age group but I will support him inshallah.
Imran is great
Imran Khan is the future of Pakistan. I apeal All youngesters please give the chance to Imran Khan Please Please.
This is probably one of the dumbest articles of i have ever read regarding politics in Pakistan. You have no Idea whats going on my friend.... There is no possible way for the PPP to regain control without losing Pakistan. Unfortunately it is the lack of support that leaders like Imran Khan have which render them useless... How about trying to write articles that uplift the people by writing the truth instead of propaganda. Hmmm as a wise one said in the Enlightenment.... " Common sense is not so common".
Biased articles. Show the facts!
Koidad Khan
I am with you in your support for Imran Khan.Many of my colleagues who used to support other parties are now changing their mind and lending support to Imran Khan.For true democracy to prosper in Pakistan and which can take the country to prosperity we need
1.Independent ELECTION COMMISSION consisting of honest people like Justice Fakhruddin Jee Ibrahim.Justice Bhagwan Das and Nasir Aslam Zahid etc 2.Independent Police System (appointments should not be made by politicians) 3.Free and Fair Election under honest leadership of Pakistan Army (Intelligence agencies should not be allowed to play any role in the election process 4.All those who have taken loans and not returned or looted country’s wealth s or have fake degrees should not be allowed to contest election (This will disqualify almost 70% of current MNAs and MPAs)
This whole process should be held under NEUTRAL CARE TAKER GOVERNMENT .
This NEUTRAL setup could be headed by people like Dr AQ KHAN with ministers like Marvi Memon, Justice Javed Iqbal, Talat Hussain, Ansar Abbasi, Dr Adeeb UL Hasan Rizvi,etc
Imran is the best and last hope for Pakistan. PML, PPP, ANP & MQM are the worst examples of governance. If you want Pakistan to be a progressive nation free from American influence with a strong economy then the only man with a proven record of doing good for Pakistan (Shaukat Khanum & NUML Uni). What have the Sharif biradran or PPP done besides making beggars out of the awam? Please be sensible and vote for IK!
@Ali: N this is what the fans of immaculate khan dont like, they don't understand why the poor in this country are like this and why the illiterate masses will not vote for IK? May be because they way too different and sagacious than us educated Sir!
Imran is the only honest politician of Pakistan. Even his rivals don't challenge that. Don't confuse people if you are confused yourself. What we want is an honest politician with some integrity. Imran Khan is the only choice for me and many more.
@ all I am also a supporter of PTI and you guys are too. So, dont get offended too sudden by the analysis. See the realities, have anyone of you attended the dharna? no? I did. That is true it was a comedy cum music cum jalsa. No sighs of dharna there. Witer has truely expressed his observation about the standard of dharna plus the future of PTI so no offence and face the reality. Infact be with KHAN truelt to raise him as a future PM
Wasted my 30 minutes. Avoid such writing.
It seems like the writer put all his daily 500 calories behind to bash Imran Khan. Shame !!!!
@Rohail: May god protect India from Imran Khan-Raam Raam.
Another cheap-piece here !!!! Again Criticizing IK / PTI for the sake of being Noticed...
for you kind information, Imran Khan criticizes PML(N) for nothing but being hypocrites, for supporting Zardari rule & for doing friendly opposition.
The future is unpredictable. Even if PPP comes in to Power this would not be because of KHAN but CHOUDRY'S.
Imran's PTI is going to get good hold in KPK affairs while Punjab will not be a easy cake for two corrupt brothers.
Would you (anti-Kaptaan) people never appreciate his stands against these corrupt politicians having their property and interests outside the country.
Lastly, Votes of PPP / PMLN and ANP would be equally draw out and put in favour of PTI making it one of the few largest party in the National Assembly.!!!
Now I am waiting for an intelligent write-up from you regarding PMLQ's - PPP recent romance for saving GILANI / MUNIS... and make up another coalition government.
some people have a belief that facebook fans make imran khan's strength and on polling day they will be sitting in their air conditioned rooms updating their facebook statuses..
You're right! we will be sitting in our air conditioned rooms updating our fb statuses and that status would be.." hey my entire family voted for IMRAN KHAN :D!! " :P
Great article. Imran has about five thousand, On call, Jobless, Young supporters in whole Pakistan. On his call they gather anywhere he wants. The parents of these supporters permit their off springs, because his gatherings are very safe and there is absolutely no chance of any terrorist or sucide attack on these gatherings. This a favour from terrorists to their best friend in Pakistani politics. Because of safety and security, supporters of other political parties come to these gatherings to entertain themselves and feel good. That is the reason no political leader objects when these small gathrings are called Tsunami or "Millions of people", as most of the participants are from other parties.
@biryani... didnt get you... you want a verdict whether he ll go to heaven or hell??? I am sure the writer will definitely have an opinion on that too.. he might as well tell you that as per his analysis all pawns go to hell... what if??? well the better phrasing would be WHEN imran dies cos we all have to.... nobody is indispensable but the day he dies, this nation will feel what a gem he was, i just hope that he is able to make a difference in pakistan politics before he or us for that matter are called to judgement..
I agree with the views expressed by Zoaib.Looking at the current political leadership Imran Khan is the answer for this country.I wish Imran Khan best of luck.Inshallah he will have enough seats in the future National Assembly to be a major player in the any political set up.
what if imran khan dies ??
@Riaz Shahid: We will meet up
[begin sarcasm] Great analysis. Could you also do write-ups to bring to light the fact that Imran Khan is the root of every thing that is wrong with Pakistan. I sincerely believe he is the reason we have corruption, why we had floods last year, why PPP (3 terms in government) and PMLN (2 terms in government) have failed to deliver at all.
But given all that, being an honest man with integrity, even if IK fails to deliver, he can atleast create a platform for true leaders of Pakistan like NFP, Najam Sethi, Nusrat Javed and this Nadir Hussain guy to come lead us to salvation. [end sarcasm]
man of principles and has the ability to lead the country out of present crisis and is the only politician if comes in power can increase the self esteem of the country its people.lets not only pray for him but VOTE FOR HIM
3 anti-Imran Khan articles on ET within a span of 24 hours? Someone is really working on an agenda here.
He is a sincere man. Atleast give him a chance !
good to see this positive discussion i wont be getting in on the debate but have got one question to all who support their leaders .... mention the achievements or Mr. Shariff, Mr. Zardari and other heads of the parties .... or try n mention the taxes collected from them ....
these are the only two points which are more then enough for any person with a sane mind wanting prosperity for Pakistan to support Imran Khan's Tehrik e Insaf
his taxes/properties/bank accounts are declared ... his achievements... one must be blind not to see them
Good to know that the status quo is really feeling the pain now. I'll be making it a point to attend Imran's 13 Aug rally now, though I was undecided before.
not that i hate imran khan or love the other parties, but i dont think imran khan is ready to be in power yet. i feel he stll has a lot more to learn about politics. its a dangerous place. if one is not careful it could ruin many lives.
'Lets bash Imran Khan to sound intellectual'.
Oh the dilemma. Grow up, kid.
Now this is one funny article. Hopefully writer comes up with a better effort next time.
Well Iam Big Fan of Pti and Imran khan , I wish and hope that imran khan will be the coming PM, and i know hes only person now to change pakistan but there are some ground realities which everyone should think about !!! q
with such and many other articles which are published, frankly speaking E tribune is a pile of crap!!
@ Dr. Aslam... its not because of any lack of genes or reproduction abilities of our nation.. it's because if ever Allah does give us someone who has the potential to become a great leader we conveniently label him a pawn..
Well, etribune ensures a weekly IMRAN KHAN "opinion" on their webpaper to ensure maximum "hits" and you know what they are successful.
However, its going to bring down the etribune to the level of a cheap eveninger who create stories to be 'sellable'.
These IMRAN KHAN stories usually are about Left wing/Right Wing, PML-N vote divided, PPP vote secured-why?- because its infallible PPP, their voters live in a COCOON.
Is there any LEFT WING party in this country at all? PPP, MQM, ANP, oh sorry yes there is one called Mazdoor Kissan Party.
All the left wingers are going to vote them and bring SURKH INQILAAB-which doesnt mean welfare state but division of country (I'll break your legs, if you go in Mujib-ur-Rehman majority assembly) or genocide of innocent Baluchis for three continuous years starting from 1973 and creating highest number of political prisoners in the history of any civilian govt of Pakistan.
Well done etribune, you have succeeded in making another Tom or Dick (augurs well) or Harry an ANALYST and above all made your webpaper "sellable".
And etribune this is the last 'hit' you got from me.
@Bangash: I agree! Is Imran Khan the best we can do? He seems to be a pawn in the hands of military and ISI. Why can't we produce great leaders like other countries? It's a time of self reflection. A cricketer at the helm of affairs, that's a frightening thought for me. As much as we love to hate India they have produced some noteworthy leaders including Dr Singh. Why can't we do the same
Rs: 18,50,000/-
I am telling you the tax paid by Khan in last year. Doest it seem to be a meager figure??? Compare to Sharif and Zardari. Khan has made every citizen learn how much tax they have paid..............
I wish this enlightened writer had taken the bother to go through the PTI website to develop an informed knowledge base before taking the initiative of writing a scathing critique. Had he gone through the vision, manifesto, constitution, lists of spokespersons and some of the articles on the blog, his conclusions would have been different. Opinion writers are not supposed to have a free run with non verifiable statements and it is as much responsibility of the editorial boards to double check the contents for their correctness.
Perhaps PTI is the only center of the left Political Movement of Pakistan with a Socio-Economic Agenda. It believes in all articles of the Lahore Resolution rather than the selective implementations made by successive governments for political expediency.
It is the only party that has made Jinnah's 11 August Speech to the Constituent Assembly as a corner stone of its political evolution. hence its unique policy of Syncretism Political Pluralism and Instrumentalism amongst the diversities to forge Social Capital. It believes that all Pakistanis are Pakistanis irrespective of religion. It would be a surprise for many that PTI is the only party that does not exclude Non Muslims into Minority Wings. I am A Spokesperson of the party on the basis of my competence and not religion.
Somehow most critics have chosen to ignore these realities and pick up Imran Khan on being pro Taliban and Pro JI. PTI policy on Drones is consistent with the UN Charter of the rights of a Nation State and application of Human Rights and equitable Justice. The policy seeks to restore the credibility of a long lost National Deterrence and Dissuasion that can make us a proud nation of Pakistanis. In no way does PTI support militancy. All it does is to attack the root causes of this militancy.
Well Mr. Nadir, I don't think I have ever heard of your name or ever read your opinions anywhere before that.. But I do know Imran Khan and what he has been doing over the years. He has been in the public eye long enough to help me form an opinion that he ll never act a pawn... Though I am unsure about you..
As much as I would like a change, I still have to agree with this.
People most certainly are fuming on the streets but that all is very different in the rural areas, which makes good percentage of our population and the feudal lords once again will have their way with the people from these areas. And we once again will fall into same vicious cycle.
Really Pathetic article. You are saying there is no place for third party as these two parties especially PML-N consists of angel. The change is coming and status quo could not be able resist this time. Please also elaborate the difference of PML-N / PPP policies so that we change chose which is right winger and which is left winger. There are only two facts right and wrong and we are on the right path.
a biased article.....more accusations than facts..immature journalism....
InshaAllah! Imran khan will shook the world..
The irony of this article is that what the writer wants to prove against imran khan, he has unknowingly demonstrated that he himself is a pawn of political mafia which want to maintain status qou. The writer seems to be hair splitting when he says that one of the attendees said to him that the ""Army should use its full force". And this pseudo intellectual has inferred that the attendee means that army should use its nuclear arms. what a pathetic logic, what a shameful analysis. This writer's analytical skills are at par with a primary school kid. He must raise his standard or stop writing. that is it.
Some paid work???
imran khan zindabad win or not but he is trying for good and is a fair guy better then the lot
There is a negative propaganda being created by pml-n supporters these days that PTI breaking pml-n votes will indirectly benefit ppp. I totally disagree with this notion. There is a history of ppp being comprehensively defeated in the 1997 general elections where they did not even win a total of 5 seats in Punjab or KP. That was because of their poor performance. The current situation is even worse where people have just totally lost faith with the current ppp. Therefore IK breaking N leagues vote bank will benefit PTI directly because majority of PPP voters will either not vote or will vote for PTI. This will eventually result in PTI sweeping the next election.
These so called intellectual, analysts, political mafia and beneficiaries of this status quo want PTI to stop doing any politics or at least do politics which suits them otherwise they believe that Punjab the “birth right” of Nawaz sharif will fall
Please grow up we the new generation of voters are only loyal to Pakistan only, we have not given promise of our votes for life to Mr Nawaz sharif. We can change our parties, we can pick the one we feel is better, this is called democracy.
It will also help all political parties to strive to change their old politics thus benefit us the people.
Me and my whole family will vote for Imran khan doesn’t matter if he wins one seat or clean sweeps, We’ll vote for him because he is better than Zardari, Nawaz and other tried and tested rotten political parties.
We have left religion and politics to worst of our country no wonder we are in chaos
@ Nadir
Thanx for ur concern but no thanks, Height of yellow journalism. Imran Khan is the Lion of PAKISTAN
He is the only True Brave Leader unlike your employer Nowaz shareef
Its time for change .... Its time for PTI
PPP (Yahya) and PML under Nawaz Sahrif (Zia Ul Haq) also got boost from the army. A case of amnesia here on author's part it seems. However, today's parties should be able to mature without any such help. PTI should show how it is able to run a local government before it tries something larger in scope. Local government is a terrific source of training for politicians. maybe flaws in PPP and PML can be attributed to their not having this needed experience-so they do poorly on a larger canvas?
Problem with these half-cooked ketch-up fearing Journalist is that thy cant stand reason. They will like anyone with beard being killed for nothing n will cry for the violation of gay rights. More Ironic is they want to get their articles being sold either by half hearten support of MOST POPULAR party i.e PTI or start criticizing it.So the author seems to be recent passed out from Nusrat javid / Najam sethi academe for over-night fame Jurnos.
Get a life n write some reason.Stop treating people as they are in mid 70's - 80's.
@sameel: wELL SAID...tHATS EXACTLY WHAT I THINK about this article. Unfortunately our Journalists fail to realize that by mocking movememnts like this, they are Killing the much needed HOPE!!!
may god help us get rid of the likes of mian bros and the peers from larkana and ther supporters who are happy for our great country to go down the pan.
i am little late guys but long live apna kaptaan har dem.
More censorship from ET on comments about how Imran Khan is a terrorist sympathizer. Why not let the truth come out?
As a Pakistani seeing his country on the verge of collapse I don't care if Imran Khan is a Jewish agent or a pawn of military. All I want is a different leadership because frankly the usual players have only brought social, economical and political disasters to this country. PPP, PML-N, PML-Q, ANP, MQM are not acceptable. I pray to God that the more and more Pakistanis see this situation the way I do and not care about biased articles and jealous propaganda by supporters of the traitors and looters.
yes Imran Khan is a pawn in the sense that the independent media is using him to boost their viewership. bash zardari or nawaz or anyone else and no body cares no body reads the news and you end up with zero viewership which results in lower advertisement revenue.
bash Imran Khan and u have a host of people who come to see it and comment and voila your advertisement revenue rises.
Simple.its not national interest that drives such publications it is revenue.
Seems like a POOR effort by a LIBERAL FASCIST trying to demoralize the awakening of the youth of pakistan!!!!
He has mentioned 'forming an alliance with the religious parties of pakistan' AS IF it is something CRIMINAL (although every leftist party has done that be it PPP, ANP or MQM)! Dont try to create a RIFT between the right wingers with the EXTREMELY biased viewpoint of the ET writers (all of whom seem to be extreme leftists)!! . JIYE IMRAN KHAN!!!
man this is one pathetic article...the writer should attempt to write on anything except for politics
@Rohail: and give us Zardari as President for the next 50 years :)
My friend a man does not say the same things for 16 years in order to finally become a pawn. the agenda for PTI involves the most pressing issues the country faces today first is the easy and cheap dispensation of justice to the average man in pakistan, without it a country can never stand on its feet its a chaotic country otherwise. secondly the collection of taxes. this will eventually cut down your debt which has more than doubled now tell me do the other parties raise these issues they are too busy in creating new provinces or resuurecting ZAB cases or defying SC orders. in nearly 4 years has our tax collection system improved have we been able to see an improvement in our education system. this is why we need change of leadership to wake our leaders from their collective stupor and spark a change in our country which goes downhill with each passing day.
A very unfair article. It is a sin to discourage a man who at the peril of his life is fighting for the people of Pakistan. Come on Tribune, have a heart, don't pull down the man who is today the 'brave heart' of Pakistan's politics. If me, you and others like us vote for him, he will win. After all PPP and PML have not descended from heavens. It is we who have made them big and it will be us who will delete them now. Why should Imran be spoiling? Does he not have the right to follow an independent path. Why shouldn't he win the majority? If he is struggling for the right God will help him. Let us all be confident and give him a hand -- for the sake of Pakistan!
After years of bad governance and devastated state of the state and its people.. Mr. Nadir comes out to bash someone who have clearly given much more to this country, be it sports or social service. Only thing I don't understand is why, why these reporters, instead of investigating corruption, mafia, attacks on people and bringing truth to the people, put their pseudo-intellectual political analysis in publication?
Pathetic piece of writing! Either you are being funded by the status quo or you never leave your home - Pakistan is changing... and the article you wrote shows you know nothing about the public anger against all the parties in power right now! Grow up!
yes IK is a pawn in the sense that the independent media is using him to boost their viewership. bash zardari or nawaz or anyone else and no body cares no body reads the news and you end up with zero viewership which results in lower advertisement revenue.
bash Imran Khan and u have a host of people who come to see it and comment and voila your advertisement revenue rises.
Simple.its not national interest that drives such publications it is revenue.
Most of the comments appear to be from Imran Khan's fans. It confirms my viewpoint that that Imran Khan's following mainly consists of young, computer-savy playboys, who seldom bother to go to pollong stations on election day. So, I was ammused at learned writer's expectations that the "Great" Khan may get 15 /20 assembly seats from the Punjab in next general elections. I believe thes are highly exaggerated expectations. There are clear indications that Imran Khan is being jacked up by the powers-that-be of Pakistan, but I do not think the people who actually visit polling booths will think to vote for him. Except this 'high hope' of the learned writer, the piece is exceptionally good & well-written.
it's actual good fun reading comments posted by IK's supporters. the kind of loyalty on display here would have put the third Reich to shame. As for Imran becoming the PM and PTI winning a majority in the house, well let's just say that although you need one seat to become eligible for the highest office in the land, you certainly need a hundred or more just to even get close to a majority in the NA. Does he even have 100 candidates lined up? or is he planning to stand from a hundred different constituencies all by himself? alas IK will remain the man with all the right questions,but not a single answer to them. cheers!
More people like the article than the number that liked the comment against it (or for PTI). Enough said.
Imran Khan is a political idiot who can only win in Facebook elections.
He is the only man in Pakistan with integrity.
Oh my, this is real shock for me. So many comments that too on political issue in such a short time. I never thought pakistanis are so much interested in politics. This is just like war of comments from both sides. As an indian, i love imran khan for his cricketing skills and of-course his team leadership. But off the field he has terrible personal life, so no comments on personal life. We know that he started cancer hospital after death of his mother. Even Indians(NRIs) donated for his nobel cause. Now you guys are saying he has chosen political front, man that too a new party. It's a big challenge. Real big challenge. He has to fight on many fronts in a country where institutions are so weak. Only option for him he has to choose his men carefully and has to work very very hard. Atleast 12 years down the line he will have 1 state under his belt. Later on he can target for entire country.
This article, however biased it sounds, should be taken with a grain of salt. This should be a Wake Up Call, an Eye Opener for PTI / IK's supporters. They all need to pull up their socks, get more organized, and direct their energies towards targeting the Two Thirds Majority in the Federal and Provincial Assemblies. We need to get rid of all the Corrupt and In Competent Parasites that have ruled us since inception. This will not be an easy task, but it is certainly achievable. This will not be 'wished' away. We all will collectively need to work very hard to bring in the desired change. "Girtee hui Deewaroon Ko Aik Dhaka Aur Doo, Sadeion Kay Bemaroon Ko Aik Jhatka Aur Doo."
The main problem I have with Imran Khan is that he is outspoken against drone attacks but hardly says a word against terrorism by Islamic radicals which has claimed more than 30,000 lives in the country. Furthermore, he refuses to recognize the real harm extremism is doing to the country and instead keeps repeating 'drone this,' drone that.' Even if drone attacks were to stop we'd still have many thousands of terrorists plotting against the country.
Secondly, PTI revolves around the charismatic personality of Imran Khan and Mr. Khan has hardly mentored a leader within his organization in all these years.
@Farhan:
Lol
The author is unable to explain what the people should do. He crticized IK, So he should not be voted. So then who should we vote ?
Imran Khan is the current best option available to us. We should not only vote him and also strengthen his team. If democracy continues, We hope more honest and competent politicians will join the race for power, at that moment we can rethink about IKhan. But for now, IKhan is the best. Mine and My family will vote for ImranKhan.
Good article because there is a large number of people like me who want to find a leader in Imran khan but are soon disappointed with his whimsical plans and immature attitude as a politician. The other day on a TV show he was literally going frantic when a senator from PML N tried to criticize him . is this what we want to see in our new leader? impatient,, stubborn? and to top it all delusional. I have no political affiliation with PML N or PP or any other good for nothing party but it does not mean that PTI can win by just parading on the talk shows without much of an agenda ,, just the usual rant against the politicians. if PTI is serious about bringing change then they better learn to tolerate, they need to grow up, and they need to talk sense ,, Do u think it is a party? can anyone name one more person who can represent this party other than Imran khan himself. and we think he can give parties like PML n and PP a tough time , huh , lets stop being naive talk of the ground realities.
Nice piece. The sooner IK fans come out of their bubble the better.
I am waiting for the day when Imran Khan will become the PM of Pakistan.
On that day, US will shut down its embassies in Pak. And announce sanctions.
Say bye bye to US Visas gentlemen !
Imran may appear a "spoiler" for the PML(N) supporters but the fact is that Nawaz and party have a competitor who would be their destroyer in the next elections if they are held under free and fair EC and with a genuine voters list.
Imran Khan is the only hope for Pakistan ...may Allah protect him Ameen.
Most of the people say and surveys show that youth and educated people are with Imran Khan but I regret to say that the PTI supporters are ill mannered and they use to abuse their opponents.
I will request them to listen to the criticism with cool mind.
Oh wow, PTI Trolls on the attack :D
Mr. Nadir you have a very Biased approach. This is not journalism. I hope you reply to some of the comments, but I doubt.
So basically, the whole point of your biased article is that Imran Khan should quit politics and allow PML(N) to form government?
Most of the PTI supporters participating in this discussion fail to understand that neither they themselves, nor the randomly selected individual on the street is a common Pakistani. The common Pakistani, as very aptly put in one comment, is sitting in his village and is going to cast the same vote that he has since forever.
The dynamics of parliamentary/constituency politics also apppear to be alien to the said group. Anyone arguing against this either has a short term memory or is woefully ill read since the recent AJK elections should serve as a case in point.
Those venting their frustration and anger on the author (probably) fail to understand that this is hardly a piece of Imran bashing, rather I believe that it provides a sound analysis of PTI's strategy. Rather than accept positive criticism (a characteristic incidentaly extolled by their leader time and again), most commentators are simply dismissive of the points raised in the article.
I agree with the implication made in the article (after witnessing the same in the comment section), that most (twenty-something) PTI supporters cannot manage to think over a point all the way through (probably in their enthusiasm and excitement). I often wondered if a government brought about by the semi educated, but immature urban (twenty-something)baboos would be any better than that voted to power by the illiterate dehaati, and the logic of Imran Khan supporters participating in this discussion havs given me no basis for alleviation of my pessimism.
Till such a time that either of our prophecies come true, in the words of the author, party on!
I'll regret wasting my time reading this absurd analysis. I have only one word for this article, "Pathetic".
Its strange that PTI supporters cant even take a single bit of criticism against the party or the leader ! I hate to compare PTI with religious parties, but on this occasion I have to, same as religious party, when ever they face criticism they will label the person as enemy of Islam, or Enemy or Pakistan, or person following Zionist agenda etc etc. or if you compare with other parties, such as PML and PPP when ever they are criticized they instead of defending themselves indulge in counter criticism. Or if you compare with the likes of MQM & PPP, (party which i support along with PTI), most of the supporters cannot take criticism of the leader, and the Leader is supreme and he has all the answer,(even if he is good that doesnt mean he is unique, or theres noone like him , and he somekind of ultra super man).
All three of the above mentioned properties are deeply rooted in PTIs supporters, which they need to get rid of.
How can he be giving PPP its best shot by initiating a movement against the government? He didn't run in the current elections, why didn't everyone else boycott to keep Zardari out of governement? What about the bogus votes that are now out and the new votes that are being registered, how can PPP win now?
Its very easy to criticize Imran Khan but the fact is that he's the only anti-status quo force in this country, the only politician who is not corrupt, and the only one who openly criticizes the army and the US.
It takes time for the PTI Trolls to sink the ground realities into their heads. No matter what IK did, was he able to stop the drones? How many seats have IK won in the AK elections? Who controls Karachi? Other than Anti America stance, has he every condemned militants or radicalization? How
s he going to save the economy? & when there
s no aid? IK is nothing more than Zaid Hamid & the day ISI pulls out the run, that`s the end!I agree with Mr.3footNinja. This comment thread is quite telling of the state of Pakistani thought. It tells us that Pakistanis would rather fall for demagoguery rather than statesmanship. It tells us that Pakistanis are naive enough to think that 57 people make up an accurate sample of 160 million population. It tells us that people with Pakistanis have such misconceptions about their electoral system and it's history that they believe that a party like PTI can actually bulldoze every other in the next election.
Of course, these same people would stand in disbelief when such events would not transpire. They'll blame vote rigging, fraud, corruption and graft. Because that is what we always do. Our beliefs are true and everything else is false. Lonely little kings on their lonely little hills.
did the PPP get along with the army chiefs during its previous 2 tenures?
"Imran Khan has, according to most observers, spent the last few months cosying up to the GHQ" and "And his [NS] recent rhetoric against the army has only reinforced the army belief that he must not be allowed back into power." Brilliant journalism ... such deep analysis. First statement attributed to "most observers" and the second one obviously gathered while sitting at the corps commanders conference table.
May God protect Pakistan from Imran Khan.
Well for Imran Special Interests .....party with 37 comments in favour and around 30 average recommend, that is around 1000 supporters , guess how many of these will vote when the time comes at Mianwali , or maybe Toba tek singh
Not the leader.Just the pawn
Imran Khan's PTI will not win the majority vote. Guaranteed. But he will win enough seats in NA to be an important part of yet another coalition government.
Dharna is all very good.....PTI needs seats in the assembly....Seats!!!
imran khan zindabad! next PM InshAllah!!!!
@Sad Panda: Lets wait for that day, that will awake you up from your dream.
PTI doesn't have a rural foothold, how will it do well in the elections? The rural people will always vote for their vadera!
Brilliant analysis...
"Imran is going to cut the vote of PMLN and PPP will benefit from it". This is the most ridiculous argument i am hearing there days from Imran's opponents. How absurd
The reality is people are ashamed of even mentioning that they will vote PPP in the coming elections.
@QB: and fazal Rahmans and asfandyars
Good to read some PTI back burning :):) Bravo, Nadir Hassan.
Mr. Nadir Hussain,
If you want to stay with many times tried and tested people, that's your choice. But tell you what, we are going to clean this mess up because we are fed up of this corrupt (so called ashraafia) We need to move forward and we will. Step by step with Imran Khan!
We are educated people with hands on approach, Do you really think we will be sitting in our air conditioned homes??? Where there is no electricity? No Gas, No water??? Are you that crazy?
I have studied people who were against our great leader Jinnah... They used to say his followers will not vote for him. People like you then even ridiculed the resolution of Lahore and called it resolution of Pakistan... The joke became a reality only 7 years later. So please vote for Imran Khan in next election for a big change!
PTI will NOT DIVIDE the PMLN votebank as this time around a delige of new votes will be coming in thanks to new registered votes and bogus votes that have been (hopefully) eliminated. The vote predominately will be anti or pro-change and established parties will suffer the maximum. . Also worth noting is that contrary to popular opinion, there is no left wing or right wing vote in the rural areas where boradari/constituency politics is the major deal. The left/right split is also limited in urban areas. The vote there will be dictated by the emerging trends in the urban areas which are now pointing towards a massive protest vote in favor of PTI and Imran Khan.
Tehreek e Namoos e Imran is on fire. You cant argue with PTI fanclub. Just wait for the elections; after getting 5 seats, they will blame the people for not voting for PTI.
Its very sad that writers like you are constantly criticizing Imran Khan. Well let me ask you something if you are sick of the government and according to "YOU" Imran Khan is going to help zardari win again why dont you come out and do something about it. If Not, then you better keep quiet about the ones that are actually doing something. And next time when you are writing an article, try not to write it while you are in the Raiwind Palace, because it reflects in your article.
it was pathetic
no content to write ONE WORD "PATHETIC"
Terrible article
He is a spoiler and a pawn too. The analysis is correct. Imran cannot dent the PPP vote bank. He will be a spoiler for the PML-N thus reducing its vote bank. Unless Mr.Nawaz Sherrif comes down from his high horse & shakes hands with the PTI. Jamaat e-Islami & also woo Maulamna Fazlur Rehman his dreams will be shattered. Sheikh Rashid is a dark horse. he might also bag a seat or too. Unfortunately we have an illiterate electorate who cannot vote according to the need of the times. The only upset I can foresee is if Imran Khan can come up with a slogan which can beat the Roti, Kapra & makkan.
Absolute wonderful analysis. IK & PTI is only the new form of Establishment. Establishment has just changed its face, but It is the same. Mr Edhi said in an interview about IK, that he threatened him to join him otherwise consequences. Everyone, can go and check out that link on Youtube. That interview clearly states IK's link with establishment.
Imran Khan ... a pawn ?? haha dude are u kidding me ... if IK is a pawn then what would zardari/nawaz be ? and what exactly is your point ? u r arguing that IK should quit politics beacuse he will be a spoiler and help PPP regain power .... what an absurd childish analysis ... I can understand that PKR 10 crore media fund to malign IK is resulting in a few nonsensical write ups like this ... but all ur efforts will go down the drain and you will realize this very shortly ...
im a imran khan supporter, and wish he becomes our PM..but the bottom line is he is not goin to become one...hes just goin to win a few seats here and there..reasons..he doesnt want to be an alliance with the feudals/chaudhris, etc, therefore no rural votes for him, since all the poor farmers will have to vote for there cheif..In the urban areas, he doesnt want to be an alliance with mqm, or ppp, as he has issues with them...as an individual he has the whole pakistan with him, but as a leading contender to the top slot, needs much more then just popularlity, u have to have miles and miles of land where poor helpless slaves work for you, and in the city u have to be a gunda badmash to grab the seat..unfortuantly, he doesnt come in any of the above category... plus he will erode into the PML n vote bank, and cut there votes, which will make the PPP , come in to power again...Therefore he is the PAWN.. Braise yourself for another 5 yrs of corruption
Fair analysis, the spoiler is gonna make smooth path for PPP and hence damaging our country in the long run. I wish people understand the situation and reject him just for the sake of this country which should definitely not be governed by PPP.
lol - and this is supposed to be an analytical and subjective report?? Give me a BREAK!! Wow ET is really going down the drain as a worth "news" publication as shown by the pathetic calibre of their "journalists" - lol....
hahaha... OUCH!
Thanks to such so called journalist who alway has something to go into papers no matter how mindless. No wonder this country has followed a path of destruction as people like Mr. Shah always bring their “intellect” on the way to create confusion for some petty monies. Time to grow up my friend and let the youth play a role. Enough of the landlords and feudals, and paid journalism. This is the time for people who have some practical credits on their account and undisputed integrity.
My dear just studied the elections of 1970 when no critics like you believes in bhutto.I am praying to God in the up coming election this nation must come up with flood of votes against these ruling parties .Its not the matter of PTI as a party rather than the matter of every citizen of Pakistani
Isn't article 190 part of the constitution? Are there not about 18 supreme court orders which are not implemented by the government? If this is the way to go, then why should I a citizen of Pakistan follow any court order. I mean I should be given the luxury to rob a bank at my behest and then change the inspector investigating the case, appoint the judges I like and even after that if I am convicted and arrested I should not be put in a jail because that would be so against my taste, I would be put under house arrest until my lawyers could appeal for me and get me out of this mess. And this whole process should be delayed as much as possible with witnesses bought by me and made to change their statements.........I don't want my country to be like this anymore.
57 people have either (a) commented, or (b) expressed their endorsement of views on this forum. And 57 have disagreed with the writer. Good enough hint as to what the country thinks of this post, no? Anyone want to be in the writer's shoes now?
Pathetic argument of PTI dharna will become a source for 2nd term of PPP. ILLOGICAL.
@Salman Qureshi:
sorry to disappoint you Mr Qureshi but the Pakistani people are fools and you will see it in the next election. The average man is not who you meet. The average man is sitting in his village and he isnt voting for Imran Khan.
One of the most crappiest piece of writing ... You look very confused brother ... clear ur head !
The respectable scribe needs to know that PML(N) has appointed TWO ex-generals (check any online or published news source) to be it's secretary generals to get close to the establishment, for that is the way they believe they can get to power as that party and PPP has no public support. They're muckracking Imran with false allegations as they know the old concocted stories of the jewish lobby, "playboy scandals" etc. have run through their life-cycle.
spot on!
Are people in denial about the fact that the people of Pakistan are no fools, are tired of the old parties, and will vote for PTI for change? Articles like these point to that clearly. I'm not even being optimistic here but there is a sweeping change coming - all you need to do is get off your high horse and meet the average man on the street. They will tell you the same thing - we're going to vote Imran in.
Yellow journalism at it's very best.
Now this is what I call an intelligent analysis on PTI. Imran Khan with his isolationists, anti US and anti PML-N rhetoric is a god send angel for brass hats. His party has no grass root appeal with hardly any representation in the rural areas of Punjab and Sindh. The urban middle class cum facebook warriors make most of his strength and come election days instead of voting this class will be sitting in their air conditioned rooms updating their facebook statuses.
Oh another Imran Khan bashing article! What a pleasant surprise. All you liberal fascists need to get off his back, if you don't agree with him..how about lets start with you proposing a better alternative? And I am amazed by the lack of bashing articles about PPP and PML-N! Has Imran Khan become a scapegoat for all those people who have failed to make a difference themselves? I think so, yes.
Though i am not a PTI supporter..but isnt the use of force by Army on orders of judiciary absolutely constitutional?? Further, i think the author left too much to his inference on the maximum use of force by army demanded by a participant!
It is my considered opinion that Imran Khan is worse than PPP & PML-N. He talks tall but when we look at the way he has lived and continues to live is demoralising. He is a well-known playboy character. He talks a lot about taxes paid by other politicians but the nation has still to learn evidence of his tax payments upto 1992 (when he retired from cricket) and since 1992 till todate. We all know his sons are being brought up by Jews. He talks a lot about beghairati of others but what is this???
What do you really want? --- what kind of politics you really want is Pakistan? Can you even think about a 3rd force? --- when you say that PTI will win only a few seats, you actually insult the youth of this country, who make up to 65% of population and are strongly pro-PTI. Do our preference mean nothing in this power politics? By what standards should people of Pakistan vote for so called big parties like PPP, MQM or PML-N.
It is people like you that we are stuck with Zardaris, Sharifs, and Altafs.
While commenting on how much PTI is going to bag, you did not mention your expertise in electoral politics or how much you have actually traveled these areas, or how much people on ground you interviewed to come up with your assertions.
For me, the PEW research survey seems to be far more credible than this report of yours.
Either way, he is your next leader... like it or not... plus we have no better alternative. Whether he is backed by army, ISI... I couldn't care less. Pakistan needs a drastic change, and this man will bring it. End all.
Nadir, I wish you were one of the many down trodden citizens of this country you call your own. Indeed you would then know what the true meaning of "party on" meant. Shame on you.
Pretty bias article. Pathetic piece of work.
If you had written this article some six months ago, maybe some people would have believed you. But a lot has happened since then. PTI has shown that it is popular and is attracting huge crowds of charged supporters in jalsa's everywhere. And most neutral observers have admitted they show the rising popularity of PTI and that there was no trace of ISI-sponsored ghost participants present in any of them. If you want to find out whether PTI is getting popular or is just acting as a pawn, then go on the streets and ask common people about Imran. You'll get your answer. The people are with PTI, then why would Imran take the help of the establishment at this time, when in worse times he even refused to be PM under Musharraf?
And your last line really displays your intellectual level, I'm afraid. So he is helping Zardari by criticizing him and taking the side of the Supreme Court? Even an idiot can understand that Imran has never been and will never be a good actor.
Seriously, your article looks like a "conspiracy" theory dreamed-up in free time by a teenager. I'd say GROW UP.
Imran Khan supporter painfully accepting an evident analysis of PTI's future. well said sir!
Aren't there just too many left wingers writing for our English newspapers to compensate for the right wingers in the general public? Even though Imran Khan uses a lot of religious (as well as nationalist) rhetoric in his speeches, this doesn't mean he will act like the Islamist parties when in power. He's not there to implement "sharia" or the version of sharia interpreted by those who want sharia to be implemented in Pakistan. His central policies include the need for less intervention from the United States in Pakistan and less influence on its foreign policy, the need to eradicate corruption and to provide welfare for the poor and reduce poverty. Except for the first policy all the rest are generic and promised by every government but none are right wing policies. In fact the policy of ensuring that the rich pay their taxes and that the poor have a welfare mechanism to protect them are policies typically associated with the left wing. Furthermore, the demand for independence from US meddling is neither left nor right wing.
I am not debating about the ability of Imran Khan to deliver on these promises. I'm just saying that if you look beyond the rhetoric of PTI, its not entirely on the right wing (which many of our journalists seem to despise).
You are clearly delusional if you think PPP is going to make it to power in the coming elections. You need to get out of your house and gauge the temperature on the street. People are fuming at their heads and foaming at their mouths with the political mafia ruling us. Agreed that PTI needs help from the army, but at the same time the ground realities point towards a revolutionary shift in the dynamics of politics, even at the grassroot level. The fact that you cannot comprehend it doesn't mean PTI won't bulldoze the next elections. PTI will take down this mafia, and putting your head in the sand will not change that fact.
please raise the standard of your articles. Its a very pathetic analysis. If someone is doing the effort of raising awareness it shouldnt be called a ' music party '. I guess people like the author deserve a Zardari led PPP government. At least he gives you something to write about. If everything gets better in this country you might end up reviewing Tom and Jerry.