Intelligence warning: Hizb ut-Tahrir planned ‘Arab spring’ in Pakistan
Several weeks before the military detained a group of senior officers for alleged links with the radical group Hizb ut-Tahrir earlier this year, the country’s intelligence agencies warned that the banned organisation was planning an Egypt-style uprising in Pakistan by seeking support from ‘like-minded’ elements within the armed forces.
In a correspondence among the Punjab police, the Directorate of Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), and the government in April this year, made available to The Express Tribune, there was a clear warning of the outfit attempting a ‘deep infiltration’ of the military and academia.
Wary of its burgeoning network and in what appeared to be an early warning of the group’s growing influence, the Crime Investigation Department (CID) of the police called for taking ‘appropriate’ steps to control the group that calls for establishing a caliphate in Pakistan by overthrowing the government.
“All were forewarned about what was coming,” an official told The Express Tribune on Sunday about the letter.
Officials said the arrest of Brigadier Ali Khan and four hitherto unknown majors in May came after months of such correspondence between various law-enforcement and intelligence agencies, hinting at ‘suspicious’ activities of Hizb ut-Tahrir activists and their possible collaboration with military personnel, particularly in Punjab.
The brigadier and majors are still in the military’s custody and might face a court martial for ‘inciting fellow officers for a mutiny’.
The crucial letter urged law-enforcement officials to take ‘preventive or pre-emptive measures’ to avert any untoward incident and make efforts to “identify and apprehend the miscreants before they succeed in their nefarious designs.”
According to the document, Hizb ut-Tahrir was working on a plan to seek an uprising in Pakistan similar to ones in Tunisia and Egypt earlier this year. “They wanted an Arab spring in Pakistan,” said an official familiar with the letter.
Hizb ut-Tahrir had regularly been distributing pamphlets and leaflets in middle and upper-middle class residential areas of large cities. This activity gained momentum after the successful uprising in Tunisia.
In its pamphlets, Hizb ut-Tahrir specifically addressed the armed forces, urging military personnel and the general public, especially the youth, to make a concerted effort to get rid of the government, citing the example of Tunisia.
The pamphlets also sought to utilise the public’s anti-American sentiments, inciting them against what it called the ‘pro-American’ generals who they said had engaged a ‘Muslim’ army in a war with their fellow brothers in the tribal areas at the behest of the United States.
Intelligence agencies warned that Hizbut Tahrir was trying to mobilise public opinion in favour of establishing a caliphate in Pakistan by overthrowing the government. As a first step towards their proposed revolution, they want to have an Arab-style uprising which would have the support of the armed forces.
If the organisation could not get generals to support its plans at the institutional level, it would seek officers who were supportive of its ideology to carry out its mission in an individual capacity.
After the arrest of serving army officers for their alleged links with Hizb ut-Tahrir, the government also detained some office bearers of the banned group.
Hizb ut-Tahrir has launched a campaign for their release, with posters seen on walls in different parts of Islamabad, condemning the arrests.
Published in The Express Tribune, July 25th, 2011.
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6.The check and balances are very inmportant, In Khilafah system, no man is above the law or accounting, even if one is a ruler or judge. The Qadi Muzalim of the Court of Unjust Acts can hear cases against all rulers for any policy they implement. The decision of Khaleefah removal is only in the hand of ‘Mahkamat ul-Madhalim’, for it is the one that decides whether the Khaleefah has lost any of the contracting conditions or not. This is because any matter for which the Khaleefah has to be removed, or for which his removal becomes necessary, is known as a ‘Mathlima’ (an act of injustice) and it should be removed. The matter, however, should be investigated and evidence provided as the ‘Mathlima’ must be proved before a judge. Since the court of unjust acts (mahkamat ul-madhalim) is the body which rules over any complaints (mudhalim) received, and its judge is the person entitled to prove its occurrence and to decide upon it. Therefore, mahkamat ul-mazalim is the body that decides whether or not the Khaleefah lost the contracting conditions, and it is the one decides the removal of the Khaleefah. However, if such a situation did arise and, as a result, the Khaleefah stepped down, this would be the end of the matter. If, however, the Muslims thought that he should be removed and the Khaleefah disputed with them, the matter would be referred to the judiciary to be settled. Also, Khaleefah can’t dismiss Qadi Muzalim while a case is opened in his court against Khileefah.
8.Does Pakistan really need foreign aid or can it withhold restrictions, the only thing Pakistan need is the independence from west and its puppets. It has abundant energy resources. The estimated value of the Thar Coal deposits are 25 trillion dollars, 420 times the value of all foreign loans, gas reserve at Sui estimated to be 250 trillion cubic feet, 74 million ton of aluminum, 500 million ton of copper, 46 million ton of Zinc, 600 million ton of Iron, 350 million ton of gypsum, 22 million ton of Phosphate, dozens of ton of silver, precious stones and building stone. Reko Dik gold mines are included in the world largest gold mines and the estimated worth of the gold is increasing rapidly, in all its blocks is 500 to 3000 billion dollars. The wheat production is 24 MT, is more than that of the entire Africa, which stands at 20MT and equals that of South America. Despite so many resources bestowed by Allah (swt) - more than that which some of the major world powers possess – the capitalist system has turned us into a nation of beggars. These facts and figures are enough to prove that not only do we have enough resources; rather, we have the full potential to sustain another country of our size and even more. It is obvious that we are neither dependent on any other country nor at the mercy of the coffers of others. However, our rulers want to show the public that we are dependent on west and therefore we have no choice to implement IMF policies and wage war against our own people.
Regarding Media, media means do not require any permission for work. Rather, every citizen in the Islamic State is allowed to set up any media means, whether readable, audible or visible. He/She only needs to inform the information department about the media means he established. In all cases, the owner of the media means is responsible about any information he/she publishes, and he/she will be accounted for any violation to the shar' like any other citizen.
8.Poverty and deprivation can only be truly alleviated by fulfilling each citizen’s basic needs and giving each citizen a fair chance to acquire luxurious needs. The error of the current capitalist system is that it wrongly seeks to treat poverty and deprivation by increasing production, without addressing the real issue, which is the distribution of wealth to each and every individual. The free market also does not distinguish between the needs of the people and neither does it ensure that the basic needs of people are satisfied rather it hopes that the ‘invisible hand’ will solve the problem. That is why it is not surprising that the study of the factors which affect the size of the national production (GDP and GNP) takes precedence over all economic studies
There are a number of other items that mark out the Khilafah’s economic policy. To demonstrate some of these, the following are highlighted policies in the context of Pakistan: • The state will fund its priorities by abolishing Income Tax and General Sales Tax, and will replace them with wealth taxes (Zakah) on those who can most afford it and land taxes (Kharaj/Ushr) on feudal landowners. • The state will bring all energy resources into public ownership and end all current contracts with the foreign owned Independent Power Producers (IPPs). Not a single megawatt has been added to the National Grid since 1999 and power shortages (load shedding) are an everyday occurrence. • WAPDA and KESC will be in public hands. A clear distinction will be made between national ownership of such resources and the use of private expertise for services in these sectors. • To ensure effective land redistribution and to avoid an over concentration of wealth, measures will be put in place to dissolve Pakistan’s feudal structure. Land will be confiscated from existing landowners if not productively used for more than three years and will be given to those who can use it. • The state will eliminate all interest and short term speculative based transactions replacing them with economic transactions which align with Islamic principles of risk and reward, which channel investment into the real economy rather than obscure financial instruments. Savings on interest paid on domestic bonds and other foreign exchange liabilities, including the external debt of $40 billion will be invested into solving poverty and public services. • The state will initiate industrialization as a long term strategy and shift Pakistan away from its dependence on the agricultural sector. This will be done through greater investment in education, skills and training. • The currency will be formally pegged to the Gold and Silver standard rather than shadowing the US dollar. The US dollar as a fiat currency has no intrinsic value and as such depreciation is common as has been witnessed in recent times. • The state should provide free health care for all but will not prevent the use of private medical services.
7.The Ummah has proven that it is ready to sacrifice and support any cause in which it believes. A recent surveys done by Gallup and PEW shows overwhelm majority of the person in Muslim lands wants to live under strict Islamic laws. The biggest treats are not from ordinary people like you and me it is from puppet rulers and they are able to rule based on nationalistic ideas. We remind ourselves and people that, Indeed nationalism has also been forbidden by the saying of the Prophet Mohammad (saw): "Leave it. It is Rotten.” (Bukhari & Muslim)”. Once Ummah become aware of these ideas Insha’Allah they will drop them with in no time.
The fact of the matter is that even before the birth of the concept of free speech in the west, Islam had given Muslims a concept more precious and worthwhile then free speech, enjoining the good and forbidding the evil. Freedom of Speech is an emotive topic in the west since it is one of their fundamental values. As Muslims we need to understand the reality of freedom of speech and the Islamic viewpoint towards it. Absolute Freedom of Speech is a myth. Noam Chomsky, summed up the western concept of freedom of speech when he said: "If you believe in freedom of speech, you believe in freedom of speech for views you don't like. Geobbels was in favour of freedom of speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you're in favor of freedom of speech, that means you're in favour of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise." However, the reality is that every society including the west has limits on public speech and views they don't like. The only difference is in who defines the limits of this speech and how restrictive these limits are. Racism, national security, holocaust denial, incitement, glorification of terrorism, racial hatred and libel among many others, are all limits imposed on freedom of speech by western nations. The Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten could never have printed cartoons denying the holocaust in the name of free speech. Geert Wilders could never have produced a film likening Israeli's treatment of the Palestinians to the Nazi treatment of the Jews, without charges of anti-Semitism being brought against him. It's contradictions like these, on the limits of free speech where the clash of values between Islam and the west is currently taking place. "You only have freedom of speech to propagate western ideas not Islamic ideas" not only holds true for Muslims living in the west but also when it comes to western colonial interests in the Muslim world. The concept of ‘freedom of speech' is derived from the Capitalist ideology that is based on the belief that God and religion should be separated from life's affairs. Human beings define how to live their lives free of the constraints of religion which is why freedom of individual, ownership, religion and speech are essential cornerstones of Capitalism. The right to speak and what are the limits of speech are therefore all defined by human beings. This view completely contradicts Islam. In Islam it is the Creator of human beings Allah swt who gave the right of speech to people and defined the limits on what is acceptable and unacceptable speech. Therefore if He swt obliges Muslims to speak out against munkar and oppression then no government in the Muslim world or western world can take away this right. Muslims who account their governments or speak out against oppression are not doing it because of freedom of speech or because the west allows them to speak. Rather they are doing it as an obligation from Islam even if it leads to their death
4.This may have been a strong argument a year ago, but recent uprising in Muslim worlds tells a different story. Unarmed people went out en mass to remove their ruler in a region, which has a shoot to kill policy. We can now lay to rest the argument that we are weak as an Ummah. Some people are calling for democracy, but at the same time they are shunning the west and its system, why; because " democracy " to the Muslims merely means being able to account the ruler. Muslims knows what it does not want, what it needs is still unclear to the people at the moment. Although there have been chants of "Allahu Akbar", the call of Islam is just reemerging in the region, simply because West work very hard to removed it from public life and then the minds of the people upon the destruction of the Khilafah. Some Muslims, fearful of being labeled extremists have gone to great lengths to downplay any favor for Islam in governance while the Western media have reported events to support their bias for democracy. However, this should not lead to confusion. Muslims have risen, with Iman in their hearts. They’ve put their lives on the line facing tanks, jets, artillery, machine guns and snipers, chanting loudly that they want the fall of their regimes and that they want their rights. There is certainly more to democracy than elections and it should not surprise any of us that the people of a Muslim-majority region want Islam. Now imagine if one of the Muslim countries declares Khilafah tomorrow, what it will do to the Muslim uprisings (clear vision), because only Islam can fulfill their demands (Justice, equality, fairness in due process and economic growth)
3.Any group that is to re-establish dar ul Islam would have to abolish all kufr laws and appoint a Khaleefah first so that he could implement the laws of Islam comprehensively on the newly restructured society thus placing the security in the hands of Muslims. At this point the state would become dar ul Islam and Muslims would obligated to give the Khaleefah the baiyah of obedience. This process doesn’t need blessing of wider Muslim Ummah, if they don’t agree with his way of implementation. Ummah can take him to mahkamat ul-madhalim.
There're lots of sincere personalities that we don’t get to hear because of media bias. For example, who could be more fitting then the ameer of HT Ata Abu Rashta, who have worked all his life for this cause, Abu Rashta was designated a prisoner of conscience by Amnesty International after his detention by the Jordanian authorities.
2.Yes, if such a personality exists chances are they are already working to re-establish the Islamic way of life. Dr. Israr Ahmed may Allah swt pleased with him work his entire life for this cause. However it is important to understand selection process. The future Khaleefah must satisfy seven contractual conditions in order to qualify for the Khilafah post. Must be Muslim, must be male, mature, sane, just, freeman and able to carry out the task of the Khilafah. Anyone who possesses these conditions qualifies for Khileefah post. The Khaleefah will be drawn from the pool of existing government posts. The Khaleefah may be a former governor, Ameer of Jihad, Delegated Assistant or Treasury Secretary with a wealth of political experience and well known to the Ummah. As we saw with the Rightly Guided Khaleefahs it's likely the Khaleefah will always have served as a former Delegated Assistant. For the other government posts the Khaleefah is free to choose whoever fulfils the contractual conditions of that post and is able to perform the task at hand. These posts may be filled by former university professors, military generals, newspaper editors, heads of political parties, tribal leaders, imams, members of the Regional Assemblies (Majlis ul-Wiliyah) and members of the Council of the Ummah (Majlis ul-Ummah).
To put things in prospective here a scenario: Abdullah joins an Islamic political party in his youth. He is an activist of the party through his schooling and university. After completing university he pursues a full time career as an army officer in the Khilafah's army. He rises up the ranks and then decides on pursuing a full time political career. His political party put him forward as a candidate for the 5-yearly majlis elections. He campaigns and wins his seat. He then becomes a member of the Majlis ul-wiliyah and makes a strong impression on his constituency and the majlis. In the elections for his second term he gains enough votes for a seat on the Majlis ul-ummah in the Khilafah's capital. His work on some on the majlis committees impresses the Assistants (Mu'awinoon) who recommend his appointment to a government position. He works his way through various government posts finally becoming Foreign Affairs Secretary which is a cabinet position. From there he becomes a Delegated Assistant and when the Khaleefah unexpectedly dies he is shortlisted by the Majlis ul-Ummah for candidacy for the post of Khaleefah. His previous political and military experience wins over the Ummah who believe he can successfully manage their affairs and be the commander in chief of the armed forces. He gains the majority of votes during the election and becomes the Khaleefah.
1.Conflicting and confusing models of supposed Islamic governance, whether the Taliban, Saudi Arabia or Iran or in the literature of some religious parties, has not only obscured a clear picture of what the Islamic state will represent, but has also deterred others from considering the Islamic System as a viable or credible solution. As far as I know, Taliban neither declared Khilafah nor Mullah Omar called himself Ameer ul Momineen, its people who gave him this title because their inclination toward Islam.
No president will be able to give you any concrete answers to today’s economic and social problems but most probably he will give you some guidelines about solving those problems. If you don't believe me just see the American presidential debates where every candidate will give you different solution to those problems and the irony is that after becoming president he wouldn't be able to implement his own promises to solve those problems. Please keep in mind that Islamic system is not being implemented anywhere in the world today and because of that Muslim world is going through this turmoil. My point is, if a current system is unable to give answer to the problems how can you expect all the answers from a system which is not being implemented today. For Muslims, who do you think is going to implement system of Zakat, Ushr, Khums, Jizyah, Fai, and Kharaj, which Allah (swt) mentioned in holy Quran? Which system do you think is going to prohibit Riba (Interest) and Hoarding (Hoarding of goods and wealth), also mentioned in Holy Quran? Who is going to implement the law of inheritance also mentioned in holy Quran? And who is going to carry punishments if someone doesn't abide by Islamic rules? It is the Islamic State which runs the Islamic system. There are so many laws and regulations mentioned in holy Quran and in Hadiths of prophet (PBUH) about all spheres of life. How can a sane Muslim come up with a blank statement that Islam doesn't have a system? I can understand if a non-Muslim argues that Islam is only a religion and not a way of life but I cannot understand if a Muslim comes up with a same argument. For a non-Muslim, religion and state are two separate institutions but not for a practicing Muslim. Even if someone tries his best to separate religion and state in Islam he wouldn't be able to do it because Islam has laws and regulations about every single action of a Muslim.
@Abd'Allah: Please do not use the limited blog space for long winding / high sounding speeches full of clichés and platitudes exploiting religious beliefs and feelings. Come down to earth and answer simple questions. 1. The most recent example of Muslim rule by Shariah was under so called Ameer ul Momineen Mullah Omer in Afghanistan 1996~2001. Do you accept / condone or condemn it? 2. Do you accept someone with combined qualities of Dr. Israr and Hameed Gul for the post of Khalifa or Naib Khalifah? YES OR NO 3. If not how do you propose to search for it? As per Brother Bilal even someone as highly admired for intellectual / personnel integrity and adherence to strictest Islamic principles as Imam Khomeini is unacceptable as a role model and summarily dismissed as a French Import. HT is a unique movement with no leader proposed or even on radar. HT may presumably succeed in preparing the ground for Khalifat but fall apart and torn asunder the moment Khalifah is nominated. 4.Original as well as hereditary system of Khilafat was based on outward expansion of Islamic state by Jihad and Preaching in non Muslim states. In the present case the Khilafat has to first conquer 50 Muslim states and bring them under one central authority. From where do you propose to start this? Saudi Arabia or Indonesia? Maybe you are assuming the rich Saudis / Gulf inmates will revolt and clamour to join Khilafat so as to share their riches with poor Muslim brethren across the globe. 4. What will the status of freedom of speech and freedom of association as presently understood in Khilafat? 5. If Khalifah proves incompetant or goes rogue how will he be removed? After all he wont be GOD SEND or even a patch on Khulfah-e-Rashideen. 6. Contrary to glorious Islamic past the Ummah is divided on multiple levels such as ethnicity / language / culture / sect with varying adherence to religious principles with secular Turkey on one end and dogmatic Saudi Arab on other hand.Without a non controversial / universally acceptable personality with divine sanction, how these differences will be eliminated? 7. Since the door of Ijtihad has been closed many centuries ago, who will interpret the basic Islamic guidelines and principles applicable hundreds of years ago to fit the modern day secular problems of global warming, environmental degradation, TAX / GDP ratio, balance of payment, ideal energy mix, import liberalization, export promotion, inflation, recession, media policy, IMF conditionalities, urban transport, agricultural subsidies, taxation, WTO restrictions and so on on so forth.
You maybe sincere in your beliefs but the path to Hell is mostly paved with good intentions.
Its our weakness that we don’t see Qur’an which is sent down as Guidance for mankind and criterion between right and wrong. "Verily,We have sent down to you the Book in truth that you might rule between men by that which Allah has shown you" [4:105]. Khilafah is the only mean/method to implement the ideology of Islam. As I have explained in my previous post that the model HT is trying to emulate is based on sunnah of RasulAllah (saaw). The way he (saaw) changed the society from dar ul kuf to dar ul Islam and implemented first Islamic state in Medinah which all the four Khulfah Rashidoon kept according to the Method of Prophethood then there were times when power was abused (hereditary rule, oppressive rule) but the same system was kept in place till 1924. Isha’Allah soon to be re-established Islamic state will have Khaleefah,Assistant Caliphs,Cabinet Secretaries,the Provinces(Governer and Mayors), Military Department,Foreign Affairs Department,Internal Affairs Department,Industry Department,The Treasury(Bait ul-Mal),Information Department,Administrative Ruling Units,Judiciary,Majlis al-Ummah,Departments such as Health, Housing,Transport,Religious Affairs,Agriculture,Education & NaturalDisasters.
@Abd'Allah, Belief is something to do with your own, but here we talking about the system to rule, do you still feel that islam is here to rule, not at all. Look nobody in Khalafat claimed that they are Holly Prophet, now people like you are demanding that you want to elect somebody to be Khalefa, that is not acceptable to muslims. If the time comes,tell me who you are going to elect and which system of khalafat you will accept, many of us will like the shura, many more like appointment, many more may like the system through which the 4th Caliph was asked to rule.
For thirteen centuries under Islamic state, the issues you mentioned never mount to any power struggle or culture differences or sectarian violence or resource sharing(numerous example where one whilayat helped another whilaya in the time of need); these issues have been artificially created by enemies of Islam to keep us divided, Islam came to solve these differences. No doubt mistake were made in the past and mistake will be made in the future because implementation of the Islamic ideas and systems were performed by human. What percentage did leaders who acquired power in 99 and 08 had when they came to power, if they can come to power why wouldn’t this be a possibility for sincere Islamic leadership?
Such claims as society undergoing continuous social change and that the Shariah has to adapt to this social reality means that whenever a change occurs Islam has to be molded. Then where is the uniqueness and miraculous nature of Islam. In fact, why do we need Allah (swt) if the system He (swt) provided us with ends up being changed? Why do we need Allah (swt)'s system if it is similar to Marx's or Jefferson's?
These efforts to deviate the Ummah from Islam should be viewed very seriously because they amount to nothing other than the current degree of submission of the Muslim Ummah to other than Islam by replacing its label with a false Islamic one.
It must be a matter of Belief that Islam is relevant in all places and all times for all people as their way of life. The emerging needs are fulfilled by Ijtihad process. Which ensure that the rules are correctly extracted from the Shari'ah for new problems.
Similarly HT works with the Ummah throughout the Muslim world on this method: building an Islamic culture that rejects all non-Islamic (i.e.whether Capitalistic or any man made systems) measures of life, interacting with the Ummah through leaflets, weekly halaqas, webinars and conferences, and calling the Ahl Al-Hal Wa Al-Aqd (People of Power and Influence) to yield the authority to Islam, by establishing the Islamic State, appointing the Khaleefah, and giving him the authority to implement Islam. Ultimately, the success of this effort is with Allah (SWT). May Allah (SWT) guide this Ummah and the hearts of those with the authority to replace the current corrupt rulers with a Khaleefah Rashid. May Allah accept this work, forgive us our shortcomings, and bring victory to this Ummah. "You are the best Ummah brought forth to mankind - enjoining the good and forbidding the evil and believing in Allah." [Al-Imran, 3:110]
Also, RasulAllah (saaw) did not seek change through the democratic system of the day, which was known as Dar-ul-Nadwa - the place that the leaders of Quraish would gather, consult one another, and decide on how to settle their affairs. Furthermore, when the leaders of Quraish offered RasulAllah (saaw) kingship, he refused. That is, he did not become the ruler of the society based on a kufr system to later implement Islam once he was "on the inside". As a result, the Ummah cannot work through the democratic system to change it once they are "on the inside". RasulAllah (saaw) also did not use violence to establish the Islamic State. Rather he restricted his actions to those in the political and intellectual sphere. RasulAllah (saaw) followed three specific steps to attain authority and applied Islam comprehensively: 1. First, he built the Sahabah through an intense culturing process, in Dar Al-Arqam Ibn-Abi-Al-Arqam, where the Sahabahs' thoughts and concepts were transformed. Through intense study of the ayat of Quran, RasulAllah (saaw) changed their measures of success and failure from those that were used by the Quraish to those defined by Allah (SWT). For example, the Sahabah abandoned the concept of the tribal bond and embraced the bond of Islamic brotherhood.
The method of installing the Khaleefah is through the process of Bai’yah. Authority belongs to the Ummah and it deputizes the Khaleefah to enact the Shari’ah. The process of Bai’yah may occur after the Ummah has voiced their opinion on particular candidate (elections) or through those who the Ummah has appointed as their representatives (Ahl-il-Hal-Wal-Aqd).If all the Muslims are voting then bai’yah of iniqad (by which he becomes Khaleefah) is given to the man elected. However if the vote occurs through the representatives, then a second bai’yah of obedience (Taah) is given by the Ummah, to the person elected. An important point to mention here is the fact the since the Khilafah was destroyed on March 3rd 1924 and Muslim Ummah have been living under dar ul kufr and allotted time (2 days and three nights) have expired. For re-establihing a new Khalifah, Method Prophet (saw) will be utilized, the way He (saw) changed the society from dur ul kufr to dar ul Islam. The da’wah should be carried today as it was delivered in the past and should proceed in compliance with the example of the Messenger (saw), without the slightest deviation from that method in its general and specific details. No regard should be given to the difference in time, for this difference amounts to nothing more than the means and forms. However, the essence and the reality of life has not and will not change, regardless of the passing of ages and changing of peoples and places.
Oh my sincere brothers these are all valid concerns and I apologize for being vague and in my ability to present these ideas in the best possible manners. However I’ll try my best to address these concerns. The one who claim that Ummah is not in a condition that would make it ready to accept the rules of Islam and Islamic state fail to realize that the life of the Prophet (saaw) clearly shows how to change the condition of the Ummah and how to implement the change. Why is kufr dictated upon and readily accepted by us? It takes kings and dictators only seconds to force their whims and desires upon us. Yet, when it comes to the cry for implementing Islam then the above pretense is readily made available. Since it was easy to establish the secular states, which rule the Muslims by force and oppression and implement kufr ideas and false principles, why should it be difficult to establish the Khalifah which implements the creed which Ummah believes in. Again, such claims are made to pacify the Ummah and dilute the efforts of those who are trying to revive the Ummah.
@Abd'Allah: Please answer the specific queries raised by me and others in different replies instead of theoretical / vague and fuzzy ideas. These queries basically relate to :
Mode of Khalifah election / selection / nomination whatever. Any person even remotely close to Khalifah material and acceptable to 50% population? Once in power how to hold together culturally / ethnically / linguistically diverse people of different sects.(We are unable to unite people on city / mohalla basis) Why would rich countries merge in one Empire and share their resources with poor Muslims in other countries? The present day problems as listed by me and others are basically secular and how Khilafat will solve those problems?It has been conclusively proven that Democracy is the worst form of Govt. except all others.
@Abd'Allah; So you want to rule the whole world, Islam never thought that it will be used to control resources, to be powerful and to convert all non muslims into islam, I advise to concentrate on other aspects of islam which is human rights, justice, education, equity, equality, peace. lets work on building on such measures through which we can show that despite living in different regions and having different colors and ethenic background, we are same. The population, land mass, resources, a big kingdom is not what Islam expect from the followers as by design it is religion, not a system to rule people. I stress again, Islam is not a tool that you can use to out number and out power those who not following Islam. If we do that, then we ourself are responsible to answer Allah.
@All Khalifah Dreamers, Keep dreaming for the system which is based on following systems of selection:
Elected and the 1st Caliph was selected Shura, 2nd Caliph Nomination, 3rd Caliph Requested by the people to come and rule, 4th Caliph Later it converted into kingship,Now, tell us HT lovers, which system you would like to implement, if whatever whatever then it is a huge problem.
On the current situation on earth, no muslim country would like to share its resources with others, in 1971 East and West Pak divided through both parts were muslims. It is no harm to dream, but work on intellectual ideas, this one is not possible which may be one of the agenda of middle east countries to bring some of the muslim countries under their Kingdom. Good Luck,
Despite collectively possessing more land, sea, soldiers, material resources and able sons and daughters than any other nation on the earth, the Muslims find themselves divided into over sixty states, with less ability and control over their affairs than nations that are so tiny they can hardly be seen on the world’s map. Pakistan is no exception. Despite possessing the world’s seventh largest army, nuclear capability, sixth largest population in the world, a rich and diverse agriculture, considerable mineral resources, it finds itself subservient to the will of the colonialists, unable to fulfill its real potential. The fundamental problem that afflicts the Ummah today is that Allah’s سبحانه و تعالى sovereignty has no presence in the life of the Muslims. Indeed, if one or more strong Muslim countries were merged as a Khilafah state within which Islam was implemented, this would be a powerful starting point for the re-unification of the entire Muslim World as the world’s most powerful state. The HT has prepared a vast treasure of culture, which outlines the Khilafah, which is coming soon by the permission of Allah سبحانه و تعالى. I would suggest you to read some these books to get the feel that this not mere talk. Khilafah State Organization Ruling System Social System Economic System Funds in the Islamic State The Ideal Economic Policy The Penal System Rules of Evidences Draft Constitution These books are available on line from at website http://www.hizb-pakistan.org
Islam came to be implemented in practical life. Islam is realistic; it deals with realities and it is not difficult to implement. It lies within the potential of every human being; no matter how weak is his thinking and how strong his instincts and needs are and before any discussion on resources and how they will be converted into useful material can take place, the will is needed which will then give direction to a people and this all comes from a vision. Islam offers such a vision to Muslims globally as it makes the Islamic belief the central pillar for the people and makes dawah to the world its mission.
Islamic economy is based on Gold and silver thus there is no inflation, who needs loans from bank when you have Bait ul-Mal to give u interest free loans, the islamic economy rules that deal with the economy are thus based on three principles: 1. Initial ownership, 2. Disposal of the ownership, and 3. Distribution of wealth amongst the people.(no gimick like GDP so that world wealth is in the hand of few hundred families.)
@Abd'Allah: {In the Islamic State, the Khaleefah would administer the resources, but would have to consult the citizens of the Islamic State as to how it can be used}
So you assume the Khalifah (for which no HT supporter has yet laid down the criteria or mode of getting power) shall administer the resources of whole Ummah equitably. Presumably the rich Saudis and Gulf citizens would readily agree to share their oil wealth with the teeming / poor / under developed citizens of YEMEN / SOMALIA and of course 180 Million Pakistanis. Remember there wont be any national boundaries. Maybe if they dont fall in line, the Khalifah will declare them renegades and ask Pakistani volunteers to bring them to their senses. (We do have experience in Jordan, Saudi Arabia and recently Bahrain)
If so, please send me the membership form of HT.
What is idealistic or insane is to think that Islam is utopian, impossible to implement, and is composed of supreme ideals and standards that man cannot implement or maintain.
If we look at contemporary issues, we can readily find solutions from the Shariah. For example, in Canada, there has been a dispute between the oil companies and the Alberta provincial government about how the revenues from the oil & gas should be shared. The government wants to increase taxes, royalties, etc on the oil & gas, while the companies want to keep the profit for themselves. The crux of this issue is: to whom does the oil belong to? Regarding the ownership of oil, we find the following Hadith that would solve such a dispute (had it occurred in an Islamic State): Ibn Abbas narrated that the Prophet (SAW) said: “Muslims are partners in three things, in water, green pastures and fire.” [Abu Dawud] Scholars have understood the word fire to mean any resource that can be used to generate energy – including oil, uranium, electricity, etc. As a result, the solution to the problem as to who owns the oil is neither the state nor the individual –it is rather the entire Ummah who owns the oil. In the Islamic State, the Khaleefah would administer the resources, but would have to consult the citizens of the Islamic State as to how it can be used.
@Qambar: You are right. The problem with HT supporters is that they live in idealized world and preach loosely defined / vague concepts. Just saying ISLAM is perfect and solution of every problem is not enough. There are certain day to day / real life problems that have no relation with Islam but depend on general consensus and logical thinking which in itself is not prohibited by ISLAM. e.g how to increase exports, how to balance primary and university education funding, how to provide safe drinking water to all, how to control inflation, how to reduce budget deficit, how to increase tax / GDP ratio, how to ensure universal health coverage, how to recover bank loans, how to prosecute bank defaulters, how to increase energy production, how to balance development and environmental degradation, how to reduce global warming without sacrificing growth, how to balance judiciary and executive powers, how to increase food production and so on and so forth. All these are secular issues and require concrete steps and answers in simple language using well understood terms. Why we wish to drag Islam into it?
The other issue is Khilafat. When in the best of times we could not follow one method how can we do so now in drastically increased polarization based on cast / creed /culture/ language/ ethnicity / sectarian differences etc from Indonesia to Saudi Arabia. Even in Pakistan is there any person which can even remotely be considered to be Khalifah with at least 50% following in all provinces and all sects. All we have are likes of Dr. Israr and Hameed Gul or Nawaz Shareef who once tried to be Ameer-ul-Momineen.
So, I will repeat my request to stop chasing rainbows and concentrate ones intellectual powers in solving bread and butter issues. BUT I AM SURE HT SUPPORTERS WONT LISTEN TO SANE ADVICE.
democracy is the true spirit of Islam. there are people who have been using religion as a political tool to come into power. this is a big conspiarcy against Islam and i must say there is some kind of great game going on.
@qambar: I know about Jang Jamal and I know Hazrat Aisha regretted the war. But the point I am trying to make here is that some Muslim individuals including rulers made mistakes but they kept ruling by Islam. Therefore, you see Islam spread in three continents within thirty to forty years. Historians are surprised till this day that how Islam was able to spread on such a large scale in such short period? Some western historian would say that Islam was spread by sword but they are dead wrong. If US with its entire military might is not able to subdue any nation then how Islam was able to spread through sword? It was Islamic justice that attracted large masses towards Islam and not the sword. The Irony is that we always mention Jange Karbala but what we forget is the cause of Hazrat Imam Husain's sacrifice. The reason Hazrat Imam Husain embraced Shadat because Yazid broke an Islamic rule to became a ruler by using wrong means and Hazrat Imam Husain stood firm and fought against Yazid. Therefore, by looking at Hazrat Imam Husain's example we should remove our rulers who are breaking every single Islamic rule. One thing doesn’t make sense to me and it is the double standard of people who don’t want Allah’s rule on this earth. When a Khalif made a mistake in Khilafah state then they would blame Islam for that mistake. But on the other hand, if some president makes a mistake in a liberal secular democratic system then it must be that individual president’s fault and democracy must not get any blame for that. Similarly, if a murderer kills over ninety people in Norway then he is portrayed as a lone gunman. But if a murderer is a Muslim then he must be committing a murder on behalf of 1.6 billion Muslims. We Muslims need to open our eyes and shouldn’t take all this bickering and propaganda against Islam on its face value.
@HASAN MEHMOOD: Asslamu Alykum brother Hassan - I appreciate your sincerity, and I do understand that there is no good example of Islamic rule in any country that we can follow today. I also don't consider Iran as an example because I know how Khomeini was imported to Iran from a western country. I also understand that today’s media and some so called Muslim scholars are giving Islam a very bad name. Islam is a complete way of life and Allah (SWT) says "enter in Islam completely". Therefore, we shouldn't pick and choose, take what we like from Islam and leave what we don't like. For example it wouldn't be fair if we start cutting hands of thieves but don’t provide basic living by implementing Islamic economic system. Unfortunately we don't have any proto-type today but we have Quran and Sunnah of Prophet (PBUH), as he (PBUH) mentioned it in his last address. We have Prophet (PBUH) example of ruling by divine rule in Madina. We also have examples of Khulfah Rashideen when Khilafat spread to three continents in very short period of time. I know for sure that human being cannot come up with a just ruling system because he doesn't have that capability. We think world has progressed so much today that rules came down fourteen hundreds years ago are not implementable today but the fundamental socio-economic issue are still the same. Human to human relationship, basic needs for food, clothing, and shelter are still the same. Therefore, if you read Quran you will know that how beautifully Allah (SWT) address all these issues that humanity is facing today.
Dear all followers and opppositions of HT, please go to this web site and read carefully to the http://www.chishti.org/khilafat.htm, which makes it clear that Holy prophet did not choosen any body as his successor. Did he trusted on his followers that they will do what they learned, but then from where the term Khalafat came into existance, did holly prohpet mentioned Khalafat before??? did he defined any terms and condition of for Khalafat or later any Khalefa was able to tell how a Khalefah should be selected.
@ Bilal Khan, Muslims were fighting with Muslims during Kalafat time, and most of Kalafaht ul muslimeen were martyred. Khaflat did not worked well after many fights b/w family of Muhammad (PBUH) and the tribe of quresh. The family of Muhammad PBUH never competing for Kalafat, but they were being asked by the each Kalefah to accept their Kalafat (beyyat). I hope you know about Jang e Jamal (b/w Hazrat Ali and Hazrat e Aisha), Jang e Marwan and Jang e Karbala. I urge you to study why Kalafat failed who failed it, and also study if Kalafat is in conjunction of Islamic practices, or someone induced it. Also study why Kalafat ended, why kalefah of each time was selected through different means, election, selectiona and nomination.
@Bilal Khan: Dear Bilal, I appreciate your commitment and I believe you are writing from the core of your heart. I dont know your age group, but unfortunately I have outgrown these outlandish ideas. As I wrote earlier please start from baby steps and maybe in due course of time we may reach the pinnacle you are aiming at. NO MUSLIM CAN DIFFER FROM YOUR IDEAL but unfortunately at this stage it will only distract from real life problems and induce false hopes in the masses. As of today the closest example of divine rule is in IRAN(claiming to act on behalf of 12th IMAM being direct descendants). And you know even then the system has not gained country wide acceptance and the Supreme Guardians have to filter out undesirable candidates from contesting elections. And mind you their rejected candidates are head and shoulders above the best we have on offer in Assembly. Unfortunately the stuff we have shall need a similar saying for religiosity comparable to: Patriotism is the last refuge of a scounderal. Religiosity is the last resort of...................(I leave it at that)
@Muneeb Shere: {Your “democratic” rulers can hardly engage in a ideological debate with the Hizb. Islam is the system of your Creator, and therefore perfect} With that mindset who can dare argue with you and make oneself liable to fatwa of Kufr. None of the defenders / propagators of HT have been able to answer real life questions / ground realities without resorting to clichés and shooting off into stratosphere. As for the grand PIE IN THE SKY SCHEME of Grand Khilafat spanning from Indonesia to Saudi Arabia, why not start from convincing people of a Mohalla to offer prayers in a single mosque behind a single Moulvi. We don't find any glamour in small steps but aspire for a bullet train that will take us straight to the top (A single Khalifah for entire Ummah in this case).
@Bilal Khan, PEW never did anything of your intered, don;t take it wrong, make it simple if we are in a stage to choose Khalifah, who you are going to choose from the lots of Mullahs who are in waiting in dark rooms for the time when some ignorant muslims will call them out to rule them and they will present to the world how wrost mullah can be, no matter how much Islam will be affect by this. they already did a big damage to Islam. Take the on going examples, is this the way Khalfat was called upon, Is this a martial law????
@Abdul Rehman. Your "democratic" rulers can hardly engage in a ideological debate with the Hizb. Islam is the system of your Creator, and therefore perfect. How can human made systems such as democracy and dictatorship hope to compete with it? Islam provides a perfect solution for each of today's "21st century" national and international problems. When you can't face the truth, silence it. That's what your "democratic" leaders are doing today.
@Bilal Khan, All Muslims believe on Mohammad, but they were divided in sects after Mohammad duing kalafat, why Muslims today don't work to unite the, rather stressing on keeping the division through demanding Kalafat regime again which has neve been practiced ealsewhere in the world as it was not in conjunction with Islam, do we blame others for this or we understand it righlty that it is not in line with religion. We can't use religion to rule people, rather we can use religion to educate people, set examples for others why Islam is the best. if you still stress on what we negated and not practiced in the past hundered years, now we recall it as a solution as other systems of governance failed. I stree that Muslim should talk about the governance system of Muhammad not of those who used it to rule people according to their own rules. You might of be well aware that each Kalifah was selected through different methods, lets decide which system of selection we want, then we can go ahead with that, otherwise, we will be further divided into more sects.
@Hasan Mehmood: If we look at European example, we can see that Europe has united after fighting two world wars. Therefore, by looking at European example Muslims have better chance to unite Muslims into one Khilafah State. Also, it is not the Muslim public which wants the status-quo but it is their so called leaders who want to keep Muslims all over the world disunited. These Tyrant leaders are making Muslim public fight with each other on ethnic, religious, and social issues. These leaders are making Muslim armies fight Muslims. Where our sisters are kidnapped and sold to the enemies. Where corruption is systemic, everyone has to take a bribe or usury in order to make his/her living. What Muslim Ummah wants is reflected in recent surveys of major Muslim countries by Pew Research Center and University of Maryland. The results of these surveys show that the overwhelming majority of Muslims want Islam to run the daily affairs of their lives and not a liberal-secular democracy or capitalism. We see many issues in Muslim countries from wide-spread corruption to no authority of law. But all these issues are not because we are living under Islamic system but on the contrary these issues exist because we are not living our lives under Islamic system (Khilafah). If we are able to solve this core issue of living under Islamic system then all other issues will be resolved or diminished with very little effort. Therefore, we should always try to solve the core issue or problem first. In Islam, all the resources of nature which are for common use of society are classified as public property and are not allowed to own privately. The Prophet (PBUH) said that all Muslims are partner in three things include water, pasture, and fire. We need to understand this concept of distribution in Islam in order to make this world better place. Capitalism always stress on production with almost little or no emphasis on distribution. The result is the accumulation of wealth in few hands and rest of the public is growing poor by day. The Khilafah is the real change that Muslims all over the world are seeking. To bring this real change every Muslim needs to call for the re-establishment of the Islamic Khilafah. We have had enough of these puppets in our lands. Let us this time comprehensively uproot any foreign interference in our affairs.
@Bilal Khan: {Having a one state rather than fifty mini sates is a future} Why not try overriding all linguistic / sectarian / ethnic differences within Pakistan and uniting all Pakistanis under the sole banner of Islam? Couldn't keep Pakistan united but dreaming of uniting diverse Islamic countries from Indonesia to Saudi Arabia.
{Imagine what we can become if we combine the wealth of the Gulf with labor force of South Asia} I hope you have taken rich Saudis / Gulf inmates on board and they are willing to share their immense per capita income with the millions of poor Somalis, Yemenis and of course we Pakistanis. Considering unlike UK/USA they dont even give Nationality to their supposedly Muslim brethren. STOP DREAMING FOR GOD's SAKE. THE WORLD IS'NT A NASEEM HEJAZI NOVEL.
@White Russian: Some of you are saying Khilafah system will be very extreme. Let me tell you what is extreme, it is extreme to bomb countries for oil, it is extreme for politicians to cheat the public and the system, it is extreme to sit and do nothing when billions of people starve each night. Some say Khilafa system is unrealistic because it is impossible to have one state for entire Ummah from Morocco to Malaysia. My argument is if 1.5 billion Chinese can live in one state why 1.6 billion Muslim cannot live in one Islamic state. It should be easy for Muslims to live in one state because they believe in one Allah (SWT), the last Prophet (PBUH), and have very sacred brothers and sisters relationship which is define by Allah (SWT) in Quran. Having a one state rather than fifty mini sates is a future. On issue of poverty, environment, and investment the 17th century mini national state model that west came up with is now obsolete and west have realized it themselves. Therefore, they are struggling couple together a European Union with one currency and now they already have started talking about one government in all those countries. The benefits are numerous if Muslims combine their strength. We will control the 70% of the world’s oil reserves, a military of five million soldiers, and control of all the strategic water ways of the world. Imagine what we can become if we combine the wealth of the Gulf with labor force of South Asia. No wonder, why the enemies of Islam is trying to divide us, whether it is dividing us on national, ethnic, tribal, and religious levels or dividing us through drawing artificial maps and boundaries.
@adam: One thing doesn't make sense to me and it is the double standard of people who don't want Allah's rule on this earth. When a Khalif made a mistake in Khilafah state then they were very quick to blame Islamic system for that mistake. On the other hand, if some president makes a mistake in a liberal secular democratic system then it must be that individual president's fault and democracy must not get any blame for that. Similarly, if a murderer kills over ninety people in Norway then he is portrayed as a lone gunman. But if a murderer is a Muslim then he must be committing a murder on behalf of 1.6 billion Muslims.
@Hasan Mehmood: Some of you probably wouldn’t believe if a Muslim historian tells you the achievements of Khilafah state but you will listen to any western speaker comments on Khilafah very carefully. This is what Tony Blair has said about Khilafah and Islam. In 2006 he said the Quran was a ‘reforming book, it is inclusive. It extols science and knowledge and abhors superstition. It is practical and way ahead of its time in attitudes to marriage, women and governance’. Under its guidance, the spread of Islam and its dominance over previously Christian or pagan lands were breathtaking. Over centuries, Islam founded an empire and led the world in discovery, art, and culture. The standard-bearers of tolerance in the early middle Ages were far more likely to be found in Muslim lands than in Christian ones. Probably Tony Blair will never endorse forward-looking way of Khilafah but he even cannot deny what Khilafah has given to this world. This is a recorded history and they cannot deny it. They cannot say that it is some kind of experiment that Hizb-ut-Tharir came up with in 1953 and had no tradition in the Islamic world. This is the system was physically there for thirteen hundred years.
All caliphas were selected through different system which kind of system pepole of Pak want to implement, can somebody elaborate this. Is this model HT asking has ever been implemented any where in the world, after Caliphates, turks alread rejected it,
is there any body who can see @adam comments, and reply
@Muslim: No concrete argument but FEAR of ALLAH as always. As I said earlier True Caliphate lasted till 4th Caliph. What role model you are looking at? UMMAYED or ABBASI?
Why don't the HT people concentrate on doable / public good task instead of chasing rainbows? With their intellectual support and resources why cant they expose and publish names of tax evaders / bank defaulters etc. They can name and shame and put up pictures using online means. Why cant their volunteers ask strangers coming out of shopping malls and 5 star hotels as to whether they have paid taxes?Why cant they organize Dharnas outside offices of corrupt and throw rotten eggs on their cars. There are hundred other means of indirectly establishing an Islamic state.
No they wont do it as it has no glamour value compared to pie in the sky Islamisation schemes with no concrete / verifiable outline.
@White Russian: Before you criticize, it would be better if you have a solution to fix the "rotten" system as you yourself mentioned.
"Yes, present system may be rotten, but HT inspired military coup is not the answer."
If you had studies what Califate is, and had little bit of fear of Allah, you would not like the rotten system to rule over you, and let your muslim brothers in other countries be tortured and killed. If they are let loose next will be your and my turn to be tortured and killed indeed. Read Quran to understand this.
Democracy, in reality, is a system on behalf of some not on the behalf of many. We see a media and police which is a part of political class, instead of counting the political class. Democracy represents freedom of speech, freedom to own, and freedom to elect but we don’t see this in reality. In reality, we see Abu-Graib, Gautana-Mobay. In economics we see a system which cuts the taxes for the rich, cut benefits for the poor, and privatize resources for rich. India is the largest democracy in the world yet third of its parliament is convicted. Seventy Four Indian parliamentarians have charges of murder or kidnapping against them. This is Indian parliament or a gang of the gangsters in a largest democracy of the world. So, why America wants to export democracy to the Muslim world? Hizb-ut-Tahrir doesn’t oppose democracy because it opposes elections but on the contrary Hizb is for elections. Hizb-ut-Tahrir does not oppose secular democracy because of holding leaders accountable but hizb is for holding leaders accountable. Hizb-ut-Tahrir is for presumption of innocence, fair-trial, and independent judiciary. Hizb hold all these principals dear. In fact, these principals were part of Islam long before they were part of any western system. Why Hizb-ut-Tahrir oppose the concept of secular democracy because innately human beings are foul able. They subject themselves to need of legislation. Allaha (SWT) says in quran that "legislation is only for Allah (SWT)." This is the reason, when human takes legislation in his own hand, he cannot divorce himself of self-interest. This is the reason we have crime against humanity by all the so called liberal democratic countries. This is why we have a rigging of economic system by the rich against the poor. Please read Hizb's material about ruling, economy, judiciary before blaming this great Islamic liberation party. Hizb-ut-Tahrir is only option left for pakistanies if they want to save their country from tyrants, thieves, and thugs. If we claim to be Muslims then we should always ask for Islomic economic, judicial, and social sytem "Khilafah."
Democracy and dictatorship have failed. Islam is the true vehicle for revival of the nation on an intellectual and practical level. The western-wooed pseudointellectuals can go on as they like, they cannot stop an idea whose time has come.
khilafah is what pakistan was made for. pakistan is a miracle but most of us cant c. Allah (swt) granted muslims what we ought(pakistan) for but pakistan broke the promises made with Allah (swt), may pakistan rise from the sleep. ..... i love u pakistan coz of fact for what u came into being a request from kashmir (Indian Occupied)
@asif: Why not give chance to others to make hay besides Maulana Diesel?
@caliphate: If that is the case try feeding your people first without AID, as i don't really see the Arabs queueing up to offer their Largesse at present!!!! So in order to have a Caliphate in any society, one has to take responsibility of the people's basic needs first, and than have illusions of granduer!!!!!
For once let us put humanity first. All religious teachings have humanity at heart. Change yourself first if you want to change anything. We don't want any uprisings and armed struggles for whatever reason.
@A J Khan: Its called Data Protection Act, which we in west demand as basic right, however in Pakistan, its a different story, I don't even believe such act exists at present, hence the problem, and the worse bit is that these sort of messages will attract the sheeps who lack education or IQ,so these outfits will benefit in long term from their support too !!!
@Hamid Niazi: So very typical.When you have no rational argument resort to emotional / religious blackmail. Zia did it perfectly. You want Islam? Then vote for me. Please do not question the religious credentials of someone just because he does not want to blackmailed by a sweeping statement.
@Saad: Start living in a cave and your problems will be solved ? We have democracy if you think its not working then improve it and don't vote these leaders ... They didn't drop from the sky but some of us voted these thugs But the worse are those who are sitting on the side bench and not participating in elections or voting these thugs out and then when they are come into power the same people who didn't cast their vote suffers due to load shedding, unemployment, lawlessness and inflation etc. Instead of cursing for no benefit Cast your vote and Vote them out, Period!!.
In indian subcontinent it is not possible because india is having third largest muslim population nearly 160 million living as minority and they will be in trouble.
How can a Muslim who is about to engage in Fasting NOT support SHARIAH!!!
60 years of vicious cycle of democracy and dictatorship has left us nowhere. Now we should get out of it and Implement Islam through the classical method of Khilafat e Rashida. It will elevate us in this world as a nation and hereafter.
Secular values are on the retreat in the whole world. Banning the Hijab and veil in Belgium and France , banning the minarets of mosques in Switzerland , illegal detentions and torture in Abu-Ghurab and Guantanimo are clear signs of it. What does it say about an ideology that is scared by a piece of cloth i-e the Hijab ...On the contrary Islamic values are universal , for all ages and times. Caliphate was the leading state of the world for over a 1000 years.
These are all arab funded organizations trying to install a strict wahabi system in Pakistan much like in Saudi. What they don't realize is Pakistanis are not arabs and are mostly secular in political ideology! No religious party has ever got more than 5% of the vote in any election. They cannot impose themselves into power through democracy so they are resorting to other tactics including terrorism and brainwashing Pakistani kids through their madrassah networks. Mark my words, the arabs are Pakistan's worst enemies. Recall that uptill the late 60s Pakistanis were so respected around the world that we didnt even need visas to travel through Europe. Until the 80s even, a Pakistan could get a UK visa stamped on landing in the UK!! Look where we are now. Wake up Pakistan! Religion lives within the individual, not to be imposed upon others by force or to judge others for their actions. This is not the Pakistan Jinnah envisioned and fought his whole life for! Worry about your own lives and livelihood! We all answer only to God not to any so called "maulvi"!
@Ali: No chance of that happening as long as Secularism is equated with being Anti Muslim. End of line.
THE situation in Near East is a result of CIA operation that wanted to create fragile states of Arabs but the real goal is Iran. If unrest in Bahrein is to be a problem Iran will be accused of having their "fingers" in this revolution (let call it like that) Several people of CIA have been directly involved in creating this chaos. Zoran Veljovich , Jeff Conroy are among them. Some ex CIA officers even admit this. Iran is a target and for the rest of us is to watch what is going to happen. As CIA officer said - it will be very ugly!
KHILAFAH is the voice of the Muslims of Pakistan, seculars are trying their best to keep the public opinion in favour of demoncracy but have utterly failed......lol
@Mohammad. Bro what was there in Khilafah which is not present today. Khilafas were being murdered so have been our leaders. Muslims were killing Muslims as are we today. Dynasties were made than so do we have today. Tell me a single law in Pakistan today which in the opinion of most Muslims is Un Islamic. The non implementation is the fault of we the Muslims not the law itself.
Salam Alekum.
The Khilafah is a duty from Allah ta3alah. Allah has sent the Qur'an to guide us so that we must govern with it all our affairs. It is one of the points you have to fulfill in Islam in order for your Iman to be complete. Islam is not only prayer and fasting. Islam is a complete way of life, and the same Creator that told us to make Namaz/Salah, also told us to govern with his rules. The Same prophet that we love and cherish, Mohammad Peace be upon him that told us to love our mother and father, to help our neighbour, also told us to govern with the law of Shariah, and he was the prime example to us and he showed us how, when he established the Islamic state in Madinah!
The Khalifahs after him ruled by his exact model, and so are WE ordered to do!
A Muslim who believes in secularism believes that Allah is not the legislator, and thus he has left the folds of Islam.
Any Muslim with a bit of caring for Islam and for the Muslim people in general, not just Pakistan, would support the idea of the Khilafah, for it is the solution to all our problems in this day and age, and it has been missing for nearly 100 years now!!
@Mudassar.R: bro u r right but no body is perfect and its not sunbody its us,the muslims ourselves who r struggling to rectify ... u cant reject working for good becuase your prayer r not perfect or so on...!! be an all rounder ,strugle for personal and collective issues together!!
@carefree: but whole country should know a solution too,which can be system of Allah only n no manmade system can replace it!!
@jutt. No sir it doesn't. Seeking support of a soldier for him to misuse his official position is wrong. Military personal cannot even participate in active politics. They can vote and thats it. Otherwise whats wrong with martial law?
@Ahmad: demand khilafat dont worry about khalifa!!
@faraz: no,its against kufr systems and tyrant,agent rulers
@A J Khan: are the messages scarier than oppression ,...,.., tyrant of government??? if its still bothering ,just reply back n ask to drop ur number!
@Maher: it needs you to stand n join it!! n for doing that all you need it watch news everyday!
@Usman Ali: it is so,because H.T is the reall threat to these agent rulers and their masters, a sincere struggle which they cannot stop
@sheikh: you can study our books n articles on vorous websites: khilafah.com,khilafat.dk,hizb.org.uk,hizb-pakistan,...
@Hasan Mehmood: Why Faraz bhai ? Nail ne tumhara kya bigada tha ?
@A: And more killing of fellow Muslims. Its always easier to kill fellow non conforming Muslims than to go after Kuffaar. Visa problem maybe?
Why not islamic revolution, why caliphate, is mohammadan islam is different from caliphates. i think that most muslime belive on mohammadan islam over the caliphate.
@Neutralist:
Please go study the Islamic history. There has been no accepted / non controversial Caliphate in true / spiritual sense after Khulfa-e-Rashideen. If it was not possible in the heydays of Islam, how can you expect now. Please whatever your frustrations with the current obnoxious / unpopular system, do not chase dreams.
@faraz: You have hit the nail on head.
@Salman: You must be crazy to compare Egypt and Pakistan. How many change of Govts / Elections in Pakistan since 1985 and how many in Eqypt excluding 97% landslides.
HT cannot be compared with the Arab Spring. The Arab Spring was about overthrowing corrupt dictators with democracy. In Pakistan, we have democracy but it is corrupt. We don't want HT or the Armed Forces to stage a coup. We need the citizenry to demand more accountability and have a true political force that can clean up Pakistan so we can regain our national pride and walk tall.
Pakistan was built on the name of Islam and Muslims are living in this country. Pakistan is an Islamic state as every Muslim is free to practice and preach Islam. Muslim blood was spilled during the creation of Pakistan and it is the only country that was actually acquired in the name of Islam. So, Pakistan is an Islamic State. I have studied HT deeply and properly, met HT´s officials and have been in a few sessions also. They think that they are on the right path? They say that a person having the flag of Pakistan with him is spreading "Kufr" and this is the act of Hizbu Shaitaan, supporting Pakistan is supporting "Kufr", The map of Pakistan was a blasphemous act against Islam. I have met Ulemas from all the sects and I have never heard such things about Pakistan. If HT is on the right path then why not the Ulemas from Pakistan or other countries support you? HT is so right then why are they in such a minority?
I and majority of the Muslims in Pakistan don´t want such a revolution that HT talks about, yes we want to restore the Caliphate but not like the way you people want, you people are against Pakistan and you play with emotions of people and brain wash their minds. Who is going to be the Caliph when you store the Caliphate? Why don´t you ask the youth and young blood to observe and follow Islam properly? You people say that no, there is no need to talk about following Islam properly, first Caliphate, abolish Pakistan and then talk about following Islam.
Pakistan is a land of Muslims, a country with Muslim blood in its basic foundation. You are the people who were against the establishment of Pakistan at the time of 1947 and still are but your dreams will never come true. Leave Pakistan and try your luck somewhere else.
Why is HT only banned in Pakistan but not in European countries, USA and Australia? The West is against all the revolutionary organizations especially when it comes to Islam. Then why are you not banned in West? Because you both have the same motive, Destabilize Pakistan, the difference is that they use Forces and you hide under the veil of religion.
And all that I am writing, I have been in you people and you have been weighed and measured. Don´t use the name of Islam for your own goals and desires. You are just taking the advantage of the situation and nothing else, you just see that all the Military and Intelligence organizations are engaged in such crucial matters, so we should step in and achieve our goal to destabilize Pakistan. You wont be successful!
yeah man that sure is wat we need..Give the mullahs a freehand so they can ruin watever is left of our country. It's ironic that the HT calls democracy anti-islamic, have the dudes forgotten how the first caliph was elected by the tribes....Organizations like the HT are truly evil and they are slowly poisoning the minds of the Naive people of Pakistan in the name of Islam. I fear the day these psychos get a grip on power in Pakistan. It will spell disaster for the minorities who are already being slaughtered by Islamic extremists.
Has Pakistan not experimented enough with Islam and religion in politics? Look at the sorry state of affairs! The only thing that can help is Secularism, removing religion from Govt. bangladesh has done this, they have not become any less Muslims. Those countries that are plural and secular in nature do far better than religious ones.
When will we learn?
Pakistan never ceases to amaze !!
Yes! yes! Thats what we need! More right-wing bigotry! More Hudood Ordinances and more tyranny!
@Asad, FactCheck
Who indoctrinated children of poor families to wage proxy wars in Afghanistan and Kashmir? Who used sectarian groups for political motives? Zia and his cronies and Musharraf are responsible for terrorism. Our so called strategic assets have now turned against the state. Bengal nationalism emerged in Ayub era, Sindhi and Mohajir nationalism emerged in Zia era and Baloch nationalism remerged in Musharraf era. Who took half the budget for first 4 decades, and quarter of the budget for next 2 decades, and lost all the wars? Roots of patronage politics lays in the Zia era. Hamid Gul and Ehtisham Zameer openly confess that they rigged elections. Musharraf is responsible for splintering of major parties of the country. Who signed the NRO? US supported Ayub, Yahya, Zia and Musharraf while opposed Bhutto and imposed sanctions during the Nawaz-Benazir era. Another decade of dictatorship will only lead to another Dhaka fall. 60 percent Pakistanis are below 24 years of age. New parties are now in the playing field. Youth should vote for the new faces if they are fed up of the old ones.
And read the history of caliphate and monrachy. Believe me, its not that pleasant at all.
A Country created in the name of Religion will be ruined in the name of Religion. Ironic isn't it!
What is our problem? Is our problem our established government structure? Is our problem our political system? I am sorry do we have a political system? No. We do not have any political system. We, the nation, likes to condemn people who has a fire in their heart to burn national dignity and when nation recognizes the fire, the same fire assassinates our national heroes. They end up being hung up on walls in frames.
This is what I have seen. Let the security be there, decide and discuss government structure then.
Good luck for the time! Peace!
In Egypt, the people were angry with Mobarak, not because he is a dictator, but because he is not sufficiently anti-Israel and anti-Us.
Egypt revolutionaries don't care much for democracy and they are okay with one dictator replacing another dictator. All they want is the liberty to close down girls' schools and the freedom to have beards minus whiskers. And they expect their government to be hostile to Israel and US. Mobarak did not tick these boxes, and hence had to go.
This is,in fact, the essence of Arab Spring.
@faraz: Arab spring is against dictatorship; Hizb ut Tahrir is against democracy. Arabs are fighting and gaining a foothold but name one country in which the HT has succeeded? None since since its inception in 1953. Also look at our democracy; giving empty stomachs, jobless persons, increasing corruption, complete negligence in non- implementation of Supreme Court orders, non-payment of taxes and loans, breakdown of law and order, no accountability and MILITANCY. So where is the harm if we say "hello" to Hizb ut Tahrir??? Democracy can be modulated with certain restrictions on the Caliph and his advisors. Cant it??? Salams brother.
Why is establishment and the government letting these cancer like groups called HT, JuD, ST etc etc etc ... Why do we have them at first place?. We have democracy if any one doesn't like current leaders they can vote new crop ... ban all these groups put their leaders behind the bars I'm sure there are many illegal activities they are doing. Why would you need any Islamic parties ... Its our religion so just do your prayers and perform your religious duties .. why force or impose it on some one. end of discussion.
@Salman: @Mirza: "They know they can only come to power via backdoor and not through democracy. " Don't count on Democracy as a shield against Islamic fascism. Nazi fascism came exactly through that door and so did Islamic Brotherhood in Egypt at one point. Even totalitarianism such as Communism wears the deceitful facade of Democracy. Democracy is only a neutral tool or a process. You can use it in any manner you want. Eternal vigilance is the answer!
In order to deserve the label modern democracy, a country needs to fulfill some basic requirements - and they need not only be written down in it's constitution but must be kept up in everyday life by politicians and authorities: •Guarantee of basic Human Rights to every individual person vis-à-vis the state and its authorities as well as vis-à-vis any social groups (especially religious institutions) and vis-à-vis other persons. •Separation of Powers between the institutions of the state: Government [Executive Power], Parliament [Legislative Power] und Courts of Law [Judicative Power] •Freedom of opinion, speech, press and massmedia •Religious liberty •General and equal right to vote (one person, one vote) •Good Governance (focus on public interest and absence of corruption) Our Government is fail to fullfill above all these. If they really fulfill above this than democracy has no problem i.o any other options. Basically all Human Beings are "ALLAH" creations but the different way of understanding of humans each other gets / start problems. But If our selected leaders get more sincere and work with Islamaic "Faith/Iman" than we the Nation of Pakistan will come out from all the difficulties. "MAY ALLAH GIVE THEM A GOOD FAITH / IMAN IN THEIR HEARTS" So they can understand problems of Pakistani Nations and come up with their practical solution. Which each person of Pakistan received the same. INSHALLAH (AAMEEN).
Better late than never.
after importing jihad....culture and rest of the things now we are going for importing revolution...........we can't even imagine to get a Pakistani revolution.....shame on us
Injustice, subjugation, cruelty, indiscrimination, nepotism etc etc when prevail tchange and revolution become iminent and people welcome any movement and force which can bring the change. In current scenario HT work looks easy, bravo prepare for the REVOLUTION!
Alas!!! Jazbati qaom,,,,,without even thinking for one sec, just get fascinated by "caliphate" or even if you dont know what is that, by, "some thing new will happen" and that will also be good for us.... and people here are so emotional about islam,,,,see from above comments "Authorities hate islam" "this will happen, and this must happen" "Mashallah. If Egypt-like thing is going to happen, it will be great. full support" "Cool"
we want some one to come and do all for us, all the mess we have created in last 60 sixty years, some one come and clean for us ...BUT we will not anything....a system will change and everything will be alright like movies....if we will not stop deceiving others, back biting, running away from duties, hypocrisy, lies, 2 numbri, short cuts,self-interests first, rules must apply other than me, ....the people wanting caliphate , even you, are you saying your own prayers like they should be, so polite to your parents as ordered by Allah, your take care of your relatives in every way and your neighbors, so choose same for your friends the things you choose for yourself,,,do you always speak truth....common people....stop making fool around yourselves and do something practical,,,the things will automatically chnage...but atleast change urself..
Month of Ramadan is near. A month in which we work to re-establish our weak links with our Creator. Surely the Shariah is good for us and will bring us closer to Allah SWT which is the goal of Creation.
Personally I have had enough of these rulers who are nothing but common thieves one after the other they worsen the situation of Pakistan. I am of the opinion we should return to our roots of Islam. I say give Hizb a chance!
sooner or later things will change
Is Pakistan an Arab state? I don't think so! Pakistanis are linked to India since historic times.
@faraz:
Is that what the current dysfunction is called these days? More like anarchy to rest of the world.
@woohoo: Well said !! could'nt have put it better myself!!
Please stop making fuss about HT and giving it undue coverage. It's not a force to reckon with in Pakistan.
HT innocent? Their modus operandi is anything but innocent. Using military coup to impose a dubious agenda of few obscure individuals upon 180 million Pakistanis, cannot be called innocent.
Yes, present system may be rotten, but HT inspired military coup is not the answer. And flaws of present order are not an excuse to invite the worse by imposing these delusional lunatics upon ourselves.
HT's concept is not at all practical in today's world.
Egypt revolution has failed bitterly itself in Egypt. People are still struggling for a change but change can not come in a tray. People has to sacrifice their life not by killing them self but to leave all comfort and moving on principle, not like sitting in retiring chair in a villa or in London covered under British Nationality. Yes Turmoil is their after failing big service department like Railways, Power Generation and even Army, Police and Rangers.
huh.....thats the only work left for agencies..... instead of tracking the terrorist, they are interested to protest the govt. which is itself the major illness of country..... do hell with democracy.....no matter what HT says.....one thing is obvious that this govt and this system is useless and the whole nation wants to get rid of it.
But on the contrary, Mr. Faraz, they don't seek a dictatorship, but a caliphate which is the finest form of a system with seamless accountability and justice.
who will be khalifa....i think hammed gul or Malik Ishaq are right for the job.
@faraz: Is this democracy????
What a brilliant plan. Alleged top military officials are the flag bearers, religion is the tool, arms and ammunition is provided by the anti US/West sentiments. A perfect recipe for disaster. GOD save Pakistan.
Unfortunately we have reached a stage where any person who likes to follow Islam is considered by Pakistani authorities as a terrorist. I don't understand why all our intelligence agencies are trying to capture Hizb-ut-tehrir who on record are not terrorists, and why these agencies are not playing any role in capturing terrorists in Karachi. This city is at the mercy of killers and intelligence agencies very shamefully trying to find something wrong in Hizb-ut-tehrir Imran Khan's party is also asking to overthrow Govt. does it make Imran Khan a terrorist? Hizb-ut-tehrir is also asking the same thing which i believe most of the people want. Terrorists with beards have played a major role in labeling the real pois muslims as them, but its very important that we do not label the innocent people as our enemies otherwise we will be Hizb-u-shaitaan as God labels it and we wont even know it
Arab uprising was against dictatorship; HT's uprising is against democracy!
Hizb ut-Tahrir is constantly generating a tirade of unwanted and unwarranted messages on mobile phones. As a customer of a certain telecom company, our rights of being harassed by such organization is not protected in spite of my complaints. I am of the view that the details of the customers are passed by the employees of such companies to these organizations who constantly and continuously bombard them with messages. I reported against them to the telecom company to stop their unwanted messages but failed to get any result. Is there any way to get rid of such harassment.
Scary!
uprising is not possible
but your war with india is something that can happen
-Prahaar: A tactical missile
If not today, then tomorrow ... This will happen, and this must happen without exception. Expect them
Whats wrong with intelligence? why they worry about HT they are non-voilent an intellectural group as official says - HAMID GUl, they are working for an Islamic State - the slogan was used to get Pakistan. Quite strange in this region other terrorist parties are permitted to work on ethnic basis, killing thousands of people they are not banned even they are appreciated by the government official but HT oppressed be the government and Intelligence - this shows that the high authorities hate ISLAM and with those who are sincere with ISLAM.
Pakistan - the land where wiki leaks are fake, history is made-up, genetics are imagined and leftist revolutions are started by extreme right!!
Cool!
What is wrong in having the caliphate in Pakistan? Is present system delivering enough which they seek to protect or are our rulers so pious trustworthy whom these agencies people are protecting? Can't they see with their own eyes that USA is destroying Pakistan!? Arresting innocents like members of HT will only do good for Islam NOT for USA and its croonies
Each one of us want to impose his own thoughts over the rest of the country...
could they be the true alternate leadership as i see cunning and thinking...... not repeating eygpt mistake by ignoring army... masses did turnup in eygpt but at the end it was CIA backed generals who are now sitting and nothing has changed despite masssssive public mobilization........ what HT is doing good is taking them both along, so the change in their favor is both inevitable as well as sustainable... though i wud still like to see a bit more and skeptical of their solutions to pakistan's problems.....
So, the so-called 'spring' is good in Egypt, bad in Pakistan, right? Hypocrisy 101!
A secular coalition is in power so now is the time to make a rightwing alliance to topple it. That has been the history of Pakistan, sad to say. The word democracy is an insult for rightwing terrorists and their apologist supporters. They know they can only come to power via backdoor and not through democracy. No surprise here.