Malik hints at TTP involvement in Lahore attacks

Published: May 28, 2010
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Screen capture of one suspect arrested by security officials during the Lahore attacks.

Screen capture of one suspect arrested by security officials during the Lahore attacks.

Screen capture of one suspect arrested by security officials during the Lahore attacks. Screen capture of one of the terrorists in the Lahore attacks. Security officials continue operations against militants in Lahore. Security forces cordon off both localities in Lahore. Police officials take up rooftop positions in ongoing operations. Security forces cordon off both localities in Lahore.

Interior Minister Rehman Malik hinted at the involvement of the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan and Al Qaeda in the attacks that took place in the Model Town and Garhi Shahu areas of Lahore on Friday.

At least 88 people were killed while over 200 were injured in two separate attacks, involving blasts and gunfire, in Ahmedi worship places in both the areas of the city during Friday prayers.

View a slideshow of the day’s events here.

Garhi Shahu

DCO Lahore Sajjad Bhutta said that 33 people were reportedly killed while 70 others were injured in the attack on the Ahmadi worship place in Garhi Shahu.

Ten people who were injured were shifted to Mayo hospital.

Eye witnesses said that there were about six to seven terrorists armed with automatic weapons and suicide jackets who attacked the worship places when people were busy in their prayers.

Over 1,000 worshipers were present in the building when the attacks took place.

They took people hostage and started firing at random.

Model Town

Twently-three people were killed and at least 21 were injured in an attack on an Ahmedi worship place in Model Town area of the city.

Eyewitnesses and police sources said that there were four attackers involved in the model town attack of which two entered the building and attacked people with hand grenades, while a bomb planted on a motorcycle went off outside the building.

During the rescue operation, police killed one terrorist and another was arrested in injured condition, while eyewitnesses said two terrorists managed to escape.

According to witnesses one of the attackers was a clean-shaved man in western attire.

The bodies and injured were shifted to Jinnah hospital.

Among the injured were a twelve year old boy and three women. Police said two suicide jackets and eight hand grenades were also recovered from the scene.

Malik condemns, Taseer blames

Both Interior Minister Rehman Malik and Governor Punjab Salman Taseer tweeted regarding the attacks:

SenRehmanMalik Lahore, all Pak is with u. Terrorists, these hired assassins, will be dealt with an iron hand. No mercy for these enemies of humanity.

SalmaanTaseer Punjab govt has failed 2 prosecute and convict killers from hate organizations GHQ Hamza camp Lt Gen Mushtaq Baig.In jail with VIP status

SalmaanTaseer shameful attack on ahmedis is direct result of PML N linkages with Taliban Only answer is zero tolerance

SalmaanTaseer Sip sahaba Jangvi Taliban r al part of same brotherhood and coalition partners of PML N Law minister openly supports them What can u expect?

SalmaanTaseer Let me be clear Law and Order is a provincial subject Directly under CM Punjab it is NOT under my control I am being bombarded wth ???

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Reader Comments (83)

  • May 28, 2010 - 2:16PM

    very badRecommend

  • Faryal Tahir
    May 28, 2010 - 2:40PM

    Its a double face exposed when they are still crying over Draw Prophet Day. This is Pakistan’s tolerance to other sects. Then why to blame West for not respecting Islam. We get what we deserve.Recommend

  • Umayr Masud
    May 28, 2010 - 2:41PM

    Another sad day in Lahore.!Recommend

  • Aroob Akbar
    May 28, 2010 - 2:46PM

    Disgusting terrorists spreading their sectarian hatred. Very unfortunate. Recommend

  • Juvaria
    May 28, 2010 - 3:20PM

    “worship place” ??
    so it’s incorrect to say mosque?Recommend

  • May 28, 2010 - 3:22PM

    Feeling v sad for Lahore :( God help us. Recommend

  • Fasih Ali Khan
    May 28, 2010 - 3:25PM

    Death to the Bloody Terrorists …. May Allah Kareem Save Pakistan from their Sh’r. Ameen.

    My Respects for those who lost their lives. May God Almighty grant patience to their dear once. Ameen. Recommend

  • May 28, 2010 - 3:28PM

    I don’t understand why Punjab Govt has turned a blind eye towards Ahmedis and other minorities. , till when we ll treat minorities as animals…

    Today when I shared this story with one of my colleagues, he told me not to say its an attack on mosque, Mosques belong to Muslims…

    Shame on us!Recommend

  • umar tosheeb
    May 28, 2010 - 3:36PM

    Ahmedis don’t deserve this, they have done so much for Pakistan. My heart goes out for the Ahmedi community. Recommend

  • Jawad Zafar
    May 28, 2010 - 3:37PM

    Very sad indeed. Pray places should never be attacked, no matter to which religion they belong toRecommend

  • Sabahat
    May 28, 2010 - 3:47PM

    Allah reham karde!!!
    I am shivering right now!!
    I am Ahmadi… and its just heartbreaking!!!

    “O Allah! We make You a shield against enemies and we take refuge in You from their evils.” (Abu Dawood)Recommend

  • A.S. Zara
    May 28, 2010 - 3:53PM

    Everyone has got the right to follow his blief.
    No body has got right to claim himself to be Supreme.

    Killing of any human being is a crime.Recommend

  • A M P
    May 28, 2010 - 3:59PM

    Model town has been famous as one of the peaceful areas of Pakistan. Its sad to see such a blow again.
    But every crises brings an opportunity.
    Our police is not trained to handle such situations. Same is the case with our intelligence agencies; they are failed to predict and act proactively. That is why, whenever such incidents happen, we call our army, because they are trained for war.
    Its a high time to revamp our police dept. Their hiring, staffing, training- every matter related to them. Responsibility again will be on our much sleeping governing bodies, who must be planning to form a new committee for investigation of these incidents. The case will be closed after few days of media trial and life will go on. Enemies will cheer and form a new plan.
    They have intentionally ruled out the participation of RAW and Black Water in such activities. I request everyone that please don’t be deceived with the guise of “executors”. They are paid and have nothing to do with Islam; unfortunately they are the same executors fighting against us now, who used to be paid by us to fight against others few decades back.Recommend

  • Nadir El-Edroos
    May 28, 2010 - 4:03PM

    Its quite ironic that on the day that we “celebrate” our nuclear detonations which was supposed to make our nations defences impregnable, our fellow citizens are gunned down as they pray.

    @Syed Kashif: Don’t justify hate and violence based on your own biases. What evidence do you have on these “hidden forces”? What evidence do you have of international protection of “Germany” and “Britain”. Why cant you condemn the acts of mindless criminals? Does the religious affiliation of the criminals somehow justify killing people?Recommend

  • May 28, 2010 - 4:04PM

    It is yet another tragic day,reminding us that in the holy name of KHATM E NABUAT these persons brought blood shed and lawlessness in Pakistani Society.Now they are an active part of Alqaeda.Had these ignorant persons known the meaning and resposibility of the faith in KHATIM UN NABIEEN,which promises all the human generations to come in this world that “WE” are the torch bearers of “last civilisation” based upon last holy book which was transmitted to us through last prophet[PBUH],they would not have made Islam and Muslims as laughing and weeping stock.Recommend

  • Truthseekers
    May 28, 2010 - 4:12PM

    @Juvaria
    On this truly tragic incident instead of condemning this cowrdly act and crime against humanity cranks like you are worried out why their worship place is being referred as mosque.

    Which type of Islam you follow?Recommend

  • Irfan Tariq
    May 28, 2010 - 4:15PM

    Very sad incident. Govt cannot protect majorities nor minorities what the hell is this . Recommend

  • Khurram Bukhari
    May 28, 2010 - 4:17PM

    This act of inhumanity, rampage and indiscriminate murder of innocent people is beyond description. I think people of Pakistan have simply crossed the lines where ” respect of human life ” is considered sole agenda of any civilized society. We have become so inhuman and low yet we make empty rhetoric of ” ISLAM ZINDABAD ” , ” PAKISTAN ZINDABAD “.

    A nation like our which publicly denounces minorities such as Ahemadis,Ismiles, Hindus traitors, infidels and heretics doesn’t belong to category of nation rather deserves to be called gang of murderers only.

    I feel ashamed to be a Pakistani now. Recommend

  • Jawaid Iqbal
    May 28, 2010 - 4:18PM

    Truly tragic incident and a serious crime against humanity. My sympathies with the families who beloved lost their lives. Down with these terrorists.Recommend

  • Nadir El-Edroos
    May 28, 2010 - 4:19PM

    @anwaarahmad: “It is yet another tragic day,reminding us that in the holy name of KHATM E NABUAT these persons brought blood shed and lawlessness in Pakistani Society.Now they are an active part of Alqaeda.” So the victims are the ones orchestrating the violence against themselves? Recommend

  • AZMAT KHAN
    May 28, 2010 - 4:22PM

    REALLY SAD NEWS.GOD BLESS THE INJURED AND THE DEAD.Recommend

  • Faryal Tahir
    May 28, 2010 - 4:27PM

    Shame on you Syed Kashif, You could have been born in Africa playing drums with leaves around your waist and having no religion at all. How could you say that YOU HAVE NO MERCY FOR AHAMDI’S. You are the kind which promotes negative image of Pakistani’s. The ones killed are some one’s brother or father and it’s about LOSS of human life.

    Pakistan can never be Zindabaad with people like you living here.Recommend

  • Juvaria
    May 28, 2010 - 4:27PM

    @Truthseekers; you seem to have missed the point. I am not the one who initiated the use of the term “worship place” and was questioning its relevance. I was curious to know why the author did not use the term “mosque” or “masjid”. This has been the case across other publications and TV channels too. Perhaps you did not notice.
    “what type of Islam do you follow?” why would a response to that hold any meaning for you? It’s usually none of your business. Recommend

  • Hasan R. Sheikh
    May 28, 2010 - 4:29PM

    May Allah rest these souls in peace and haven and bring the light to these lost souls who’re spreading fear and terror. Ameen.Recommend

  • Khurram Bukhari
    May 28, 2010 - 4:35PM

    @Nadir El-Edroos : Read my comments as I have said clearly that Pakistani nation is no more a civilized nation rather our social norms and behaviour clearly reflect how much violent and blood thirsty we are.

    So I would rather consider our Pakistani nation as ” Bunch of hypocrites, murderers and liars”. The concept of “Sufism” has been forgotten long time ago. WE HIDE OUR FILTH AND BLAME OTHERS.Recommend

  • mak
    May 28, 2010 - 4:51PM

    Truly tragic incident, my heart goes out to fellow pakistanis, brothers & sisters who lost their lives today. Humanity lost today! Any Kashif, please refrain from making such immature and inciting statements. Human lives were lost today and sadly those of our fellow citizens. I denounce religious extremism of any kind and it has no room for in Quaid’s Republic of Pakistan. Recommend

  • Muhammadi
    May 28, 2010 - 4:53PM

    Sad incident.
    People losing their family members during this terror wave in pakistan since 2001.
    Its all because musharaf leave us in American War and local jehadi got a new version of killing eachother in the name of ALLAH.
    Sad…….I am Muhammadi Sunni Person and against the religious ideas of Ahmadis but this incident is sad and not acceptable in our society.
    All living here have right to live.

    May ALLAH bless our nation.Recommend

  • farhan
    May 28, 2010 - 5:27PM

    Tragic incident!Recommend

  • farhan
    May 28, 2010 - 5:38PM

    Tragic incident!
    why dont we directly name the real threat to the existance of pakistan? why do we try to drag in US and India in all bad deeds against pakistan?

    This is not the first incident in which we brutally murdur our minorities. Not months ago we saw Gojra incident in more than 7 christians were burnt alive in their houses. Investigation agencies did take the name of Sipa e Sahaba behind the attacks, but did they take action against the organisation?

    Its time to stand up and tell government: enough is enough! give these barbarians final blow right in the face! so that we can save the priceless lives of common Pakistanis.Recommend

  • rehan
    May 28, 2010 - 6:08PM

    Just another act of terrorizing ordinary citizens.My heart goes out to all the grieved people;the dead are gone.PLEASE LET US NOT GIVE THIS A RELIGIOUS TWIST AND PLAY INTO THE HANDS OF THE “HIDDEN HANDS”.Recommend

  • Farhad
    May 28, 2010 - 6:11PM

    First we treat our first Nobel Prize winner like dirt because he came from the Ahmedi sect, Pakistan continued to persecute them and they STILL stayed in Pakistan. Now individuals have started targeting them along with terrorist groups like this?

    If you ask me, it is only a true patriot that puts up with this kind of relentless attack on ones character and belief, chooses to live another day in this country and continues calling themselves a Pakistani.

    I hope we recover these goons alive so that we can find out why they targeted Ahmedis only. A dark day for Pakistan indeed.Recommend

  • Faryal Tahir
    May 28, 2010 - 6:31PM

    If a profound gulf separates my neighbor’s belief from mine, there is always the golden bridge of tolerance.Recommend

  • Ali Sher
    May 28, 2010 - 6:52PM

    animals, there is no other word.
    ask a child what he thinks of this day. to an orpphaned one, religious sects don’t mean a thing.Recommend

  • Pure Pakistani
    May 28, 2010 - 7:14PM

    This indeed not a good act, and one should condemn this sort of act by the individuals.

    The important point I want here to mentioned is that the offical declare figure of Ahmedi(s) living in Pakistan is much less than the number of persons worshiping in those two mosques.

    Though it is not good to say, but I am interested to know the names of the person murdered in the blast.Recommend

  • Ali Haider
    May 28, 2010 - 7:21PM

    It is a very sad incident. Ahmadi’s have the right to worship and stay in peace. The white in the Pakistani Flag represents minorities. We HAVE TO respect them. However, the incident does not seem like a hate crime. There may be more than that to it. Only God knows who did it!!!!Recommend

  • Anwar Ahmad
    May 28, 2010 - 7:23PM

    Indeed killing anyone in the name of religion is most heinous and condemnable act but unfortunately in Pakistan this is religious duty to some like the one who commented earlier on this forum. How can you justify killing a human in the name of Allah who love His creation and Prophet (saw) who is “Rahmatul-lil-Alameen“.

    For those who want to know why Ahmadiyya Mosque cannot be called Masjid. It is due to Ordinance XX by Gen Zia ul Haq which prevents them to call themselves Muslims, use any Muslim Salutation or terminology like Assalam-o-Alaikum, Bismillah, Alhamdolillah, Masha’Allah etc. They cannot pose themselves in such a way to be understood as Muslims. They cannot pray openly no feeling of other Muslim are not harmed as they pray like Muslims. They cannot recite Kalima etc and the list goes on. All above acts can land them in Jail and on top of this if prosecuted under Blasphemy Laws they can be put to gallows. BTW for all above mentioned crimes, they are tried in anti-terrorism courts which means no bail.Recommend

  • Anwar Ahmad
    May 28, 2010 - 7:33PM

    @rehan

    There is big difference in terrorism and religious terrorism. Punjab is now heaven for religious terrorists. BTW just after shahadat of Qaid-e-Millat we started crying for “hidden hand”. Even if there is one; this hidden hand will go away when we take our hands out of other’s affairs.Recommend

  • Ali Haider
    May 28, 2010 - 8:12PM

    We need Quiad-e-Azam’s Pakistan. NOT Mullah’s Pakistan!!!!! For God’s sake, leave us alone!!!!Recommend

  • Abid
    May 28, 2010 - 8:28PM

    Please don’t call these Zaliman animals. It is a disrespect to animals as they never kill unnecessarily. Read Mark Twain peopleRecommend

  • May 28, 2010 - 8:29PM

    This is a sad event, but the most sadness which I felt was when watching the live stream on TV from Channels like GEO, EXPRESS etc showing those people with guns out in the open and clearly visible, If our Law Enforcement Agencies has some good snipers they could have taken them out in a matter of minutes. But unfortunately there are rare good Class A snipers in our police, I wish our govt. will introduce programs for our brave men & women to become good level Snipers.Recommend

  • AZ
    May 28, 2010 - 8:31PM

    For your childrens’ sake, I beg the people of Pakistan to come out of state of denial. These barbarians have been bred in our own backyards. If we don’t act quickly, we might be doomed. On the other hand, i see any effort to rehabilitate the minds of the popular mass will be futile. If the jamaat-e-islami representative can come on tv and show no respect for the minorities and clearly deny the loss of precious life and only stick to their damn agenda of American hand, then there is no hope. I believe that it is gone beyond the point of reconciliation. Those who want to do good for our country are out numbered. Now we are the minority. I am ashamed.Recommend

  • Mahvesh
    May 28, 2010 - 8:55PM

    Such is the lack of humanity and the state of apathy in our ‘nation’ that although 70 died, no one will give a damn about this incident because it wasn’t ‘Muslims’ that were targeted but ‘Ahmedis’… not in ‘mosques’ but in their ‘worship areas’. They weren’t declared Muslims, hence they’re not exactly part of our nation, hence we have no sympathies for them. Even if you don’t agree with their religious beliefs, nothing can justify you condoning this act of terrorism against people in your own country.

    And then we expect this country to do wonders – when your fellow citizens are killed by terrorists, you seek excuses instead of condemnation. Recommend

  • M. Salim
    May 28, 2010 - 9:44PM

    Pakistanis need to come out of their intellectual bankruptcy to counter the educated “illiterates” leading the country to further disintegration. Shias versus Sunnis, Muslims vs Christians, Baluchis versus settlers (Punjabis), Mohajirs vs Pathans, Talibans vs The Establishment, Sunnis vs Ahmedis, Sindhis vs ……. – all this after fighting and exploiting the Bengalis till 1971.

    what next? another break-up in the offingRecommend

  • May 28, 2010 - 9:48PM

    @ ALL

    We need anti sectarian laws and immediately ban of all sects preachers and devil advocates of religion in general and Islam in particular, enough is enough now, can anyone tell this C.J of Lahore high court to BAN V.VIP protocol Police personnels and guns in Punjab and all over the Pakistan. Punjab Government is totally fail to protect the Citizens of Punjab now these Sharif Brothers need to resign and give the administration under Supreme Court of Pakistan.
    I hope it is the lesson for our so-called Army generals who have cultivated all dirty seeds during the Afghan War and still some devil minded GENERALS find Pakistan future and foreign policy in the hand of GOD’s terrorists.
    My Respects for those who lost their lives. May God Almighty grant patience to their dear once. Ameen.

    Karakorum Students Organisation KSO.
    Gilgit
    Recommend

  • Faryal Tahir
    May 28, 2010 - 10:02PM

    @Pure Pakistani !!

    Ahmadis of Pakistan
    Alternative names: Qadianis, Lahori group
    Location: Pakistan, mainly Punjab and Sind
    Population: 3-4 million
    % of population: 3.1%-4.2%

    The Ahmadis accept four of the five basic principles of Islam, namely prayer five times a day, the Ramadan fast, the Pilgrimage to Mecca (Haj) and alms-giving. They do not accept the fifth principle, that of the Jihad or Holy War against non-believers. Many Muslims regard them as heretics and refuse to accept them as a legitimate part of Islam.

    BUT they still have a right to live peacefully, you can’t kill someone for his thoughts. I have never seen an Ahamdi terrorizing people or involving in heinous activities. As a matter of fact they survive with keeping their profile low. More exposure more hatred. It was shameful to kill who has already been killed politically, socially, religiously.Recommend

  • Faryal Tahir
    May 28, 2010 - 10:24PM

    By the way I would like to know how did the ‘most watched TV channel’ restrained itself from taking live interviews of victims and injured. Anyone enlighten me please? A few days earlier The ‘exposed tape’ of an anchor revealed a lot against Ahamdi’s but I thought those were his personal views. Were they PERSONAL?Recommend

  • May 28, 2010 - 10:43PM

    Its simply very Sad…..
    My Respects for those who lost their lives. May God Almighty grant patience to their dear once. Ameen.Recommend

  • pakistani
    May 28, 2010 - 11:07PM

    Musharraf Zindabad Recommend

  • al-haqq murr
    May 28, 2010 - 11:30PM

    The only ethical reaction to this terrible incident would be to start referring to Ahmadis as they would like to be referred to i.e., as a MUSLIM sect and their places of worship as MOSQUES, demand the repeal of all laws and ordinances dealing with apostasy and blasphemy, a mass refusal to sign any official documents in which one has to profess one’s belief in the Finality of Prophethood (how is this relevant for a passport application?) and in which the Ahmadiyya are condemned as heretics, organizing a symbolic day of common prayer in which all the various Muslim sects will participate. It is now time to end this shameful state of affairs, this hatred and vitriol once and for all.Recommend

  • May 28, 2010 - 11:34PM

    Our tag line needs to be “No Compromise!” – and this is exactly what we need at all levels of our society. From our leaders to each citizen – the law has to be obeyed and respected!

    It’s compromises that has brought us to this lowest of low levels!Recommend

  • Bangash
    May 28, 2010 - 11:50PM

    More murder of Pakistanis by terrorists. Recommend

  • Juko
    May 29, 2010 - 12:00AM

    It is said that more people die defending an ideology than actually practicing it…
    I am ashamed and embarassed to call myself a pakistani today! Recommend

  • Anjum Hameed
    May 29, 2010 - 12:13AM

    Where was the voice of the Pakistani public when Zia-ul-Haq decided to issue an ordinance proclaiming Ahmedi’s as non-Muslims?..who gave him the right to do so?..why didnt anyone protest that development?..is Martial Law frightening or religious bigotry?..this country has been destroyed by the very people it was made for—MUSLIMS..it is disgusting..and to drive home my point, I am a Muslim, albeit a very ashamed one today..Recommend

  • Anwar Ahmad
    May 29, 2010 - 1:10AM

    @Faryal Tahir
    Ahmadis do believe in all princiles of Islam including Jihad but Jihad has some conditions and criteria. Please check their website http://www.alislam.org for their beliefs.

    @Anjum Hameed
    Zia did not declare them non-Muslims Z A Bhutto did. Zia enacted strict laws which striped them of every right and freedom. Pakistan is one of the signatory of Universal Declaration of Human Rights but unfortunately violates that declaration severely. Ahmadis do not even have those rights guaranteed under Constitution of Pakistan.Recommend

  • Fakhar
    May 29, 2010 - 2:08AM

    **Government should ban all extremist religious groups and their leadership should be brought to justice for killing innocent people. Religious parties that do not condemn these acts of barbarism should be banned as well.That is the only option to save Pakistan and its citizens.Terrorists are never punished by our courts rather they get freedom to kill from judges of lower, higher and highest courts of the country.Have ever our judges thought that most of the time terrorists are not nabed and if rarely any terrorists are arrested our courts free them.**Recommend

  • Ari
    May 29, 2010 - 2:22AM

    The blame must be directed at that which has poisoned tens of millions of minds. The intolerant fanaticism amongs some Muslims is the most serious threat facing this planet. Personally, I believe all Pakistanis, at least those who originated in India, would have been much better off had their ancestors remained Hindus. Islam has harmed the people of the nations where it is in the majority.Recommend

  • joe
    May 29, 2010 - 2:28AM

    why?Recommend

  • Faryal Tahir
    May 29, 2010 - 2:33AM

    Thank you Anwar !! Though I believe I posted what I read online too. I wasn’t provoking anger in any case, thanks again for the correction.Recommend

  • Umair
    May 29, 2010 - 4:04AM

    @ Ari
    ” Islam! The intolerant fanaticism which has been a hallmark of this belief system since its very inception is the most serious threat facing this planet”

    -No, you got it completely wrong, the actions of a few criminals cannot be blamed on all muslims. Majority of Muslim Pakistanis are peaceful and non-violent, Islam remains a religion of peace and universal brotherhood and true we need to stand up and let others know what Islam truly stands for. This was a horrific crime and we will pull ourselves together, there was no justification of killing innocent people in the Mosque in Lahore. This incedent should be condemned, justice must be done and also keeping in mind of those servicemen, rescue workers and policemen who in the line of duty respond in support of innocent people to protect them. We all Muslims and Pakistanis must stand together and defeat the forces of terrorism. Recommend

  • Anwar Ahmad
    May 29, 2010 - 5:16AM

    @Ari

    I feel sorry for your attack on a very peaceful religion. This attitude is same as religious fanatics and bigots here who are only a few thousand. Religion should not be blamed for personal conduct of some lunatics. Had Islam been an intolerant religion there would have been no other religion in India. Your existence is proof of Islam’s tolerance.

    Your direct attack on Islam exhibits your tolerance level which is no better than those terrorists who attacked Ahmadiyya Mosques.

    Peace.Recommend

  • Khurram Bukhari
    May 29, 2010 - 5:56AM

    Welcome to our beloved land of BUTCHERS, MURDERERS and SAVAGES called BARBARISTAN instead of PAKISTAN. Still we think that our country is fortress of ISLAM. I think it is the best land of showing talent of savagery and butchery. Recommend

  • uXuf
    May 29, 2010 - 9:50AM

    @Ari: Capitalism cursed us, and the lust and greed of men who have a noticeably fairer tone of skin.Recommend

  • Anjum Hameed
    May 29, 2010 - 11:32AM

    Thanx for the correction Anwer..where do we go from here though?..this rampage has to stop..it is totally unacceptable in any terms, human or religious..Recommend

  • Shabah
    May 29, 2010 - 12:45PM

    To Anjum hameed

    Ahmedis are considered Non Muslims all over the Muslim world and not just in Pakistan. Zia had nothing to do with it. Pakistan declared them Non Muslims during ZA Bhutto’s era. Get your facts straight.Recommend

  • Babar
    May 29, 2010 - 1:12PM

    Intelligence agency, Army and Elements of our country are involved in the wave of terrorism………. I have a question for all pakistanis why is attack on quetta ignored????Recommend

  • Salman
    May 29, 2010 - 1:58PM

    Mr. Malik is your responsibility is over by hinting the TTP involvement?

    Can you tell in public what actions are taken on if TTP exists?
    When will you bring them to justice or again the president house will pass the order of pardon to these criminals even before they are sentenced.

    What a shame that being an interior ministers the leader of the 7th largest army of the world just giving out hints and doing nothing.

    What is happening in Karachi did Mr. Malik knows the number who died for nothing what is happening in Quetta who many of Pakistanis are killed there.

    Do you feel the responsibility on the killings in last two years?Recommend

  • Peter
    May 29, 2010 - 4:40PM

    Here we are living in the 21st century and the ‘rules and regulations’ which control the lives of most of the people on this planet are still those which came about in antiquity. Life has advanced technologically but philosophically most people are still living in the Dark Ages. Let us be done with these primitive ideologies from the Past we call religion and emerge into the present day with ethical systems which acknowledge the Humanity of ALL living beings on Earth.Recommend

  • ari
    May 29, 2010 - 5:21PM

    Anwar, if and when muslims will ever begin to put into practice that verse in the Qur’an which their apologists love to quote, “Let there be no compulsion in religion…” (Surah 2:256), on that day I will agree with you.Recommend

  • Malcom B
    May 29, 2010 - 6:27PM

    It is China which is hopefully the model for the future. The destructive nature and opportunities which organized religion offers to the most deranged individuals as leaders and spokespersons, is understood very well by the Chinese. Tight regulation and monitoring by the authorities ensures that the type of fascistic authority which presently controls the worldwide islamic community, will never have a chance to develop in China.Recommend

  • Khan
    May 29, 2010 - 7:40PM

    very sad incident. Indication of a nation that is in coma and no doctor would be able to save it.Recommend

  • Anwar Ahmad
    May 29, 2010 - 8:22PM

    @Shabah

    Can you name any other country except Pakistan where they have constitutionally been declared non-Muslims ad have laws forbidding them to profess and practice their faith? Indonesia recently issued a decree asking them not to preach their faith. They did not restrict them to pray or use any Islamic terminology for them. Pakistani constitution on one hand gives everyone right to profess and practice one’s belief; on the other hand it takes back all freedom from Ahmadis completely isolating them.Recommend

  • Anwar Ahmad
    May 29, 2010 - 8:30PM

    @Anjum Hameed

    People like you are ray of hope. We should not only condemn terrorism, discrimination or religious hatred on these forums but in our practical lives we should courageously question those elements spreading venom in our society be it a relative, neighbouror Imam. I think this will be our Jihad against those who paint bleak picture of beautiful Islam.Recommend

  • Anwar Ahmad
    May 29, 2010 - 8:39PM

    @Peter

    I strongly disagree. Religion is not primitive ideology and it does not restrict you in that time frame. If it is then it is dead religion. Every Religion emphasises on humanity and it also encourages you to move further. Its some narrow minded and selfish people who twist religion for their ulterior motives and they can be found in every religion.Recommend

  • Anjum Hameed
    May 29, 2010 - 8:48PM

    To Shabah…no country in the world except Pakistan has declared the Ahmedis as non-Muslims OFFICIALLY..what , do we get a ‘gold star’ from God in our notebooks when we finally meet Him for doing so?.. Recommend

  • Anwar Ahmad
    May 29, 2010 - 8:56PM

    @ari

    Your point is valid. We are facing all the troubles just because we do not practice religion in toto specially matters relating to intolerance. Sooner or later we have to practice the right path otherwise the situation will continue to rot. But then God has His mysterious ways to punish and bring back astray people to right path.

    @Malcom B

    Russia did try that model but failed. Anything which goes against Nature gets destroyed. Chinese may succeed because they do provide some liberties to their people. Some checks and restrictions are necessary otherwise countries may end up in theocratic states.Recommend

  • Peter
    May 30, 2010 - 12:16AM

    I repeat, organized Religion is the worst calamity which has afflicted earth. It breeds intolerance and violence. Better to be rid of it all and see a New Age emerge free of this fossil from the past.Recommend

  • Shabah
    May 30, 2010 - 3:32AM

    To Anwar and Anjum

    Where do you guys live? Saudi Arabia and the other members of the GCC don’t recognize them as Muslims and they are forbidden from entering the Holy mosques OFFICIALLY. However, Ahmedis enter the areas without declaring themselves to be Ahmedis. But that is another matter.

    And no, we don’t get gold stars from God for declaring them Non Muslims. Such emotional statements don’t change a thing. Recommend

  • Vijay Bhatt
    May 30, 2010 - 7:57AM

    @Peter

    Why stop with religion? ALL belief systems are ultimately destructive because it is FEAR which has given birth to them. Religion, politics, science, law, community are all ways to cover up the FACT that there is no one there. There is no ghost in the machine, even science has come to accept this (see self-plex). We are just lonely thought processes passing by a boundless universe.Recommend

  • Anjum Hameed
    May 30, 2010 - 1:21PM

    To Shabah..
    Emotional statements dont change what??..if the Ahmedi’s are declared OFFICIALLY to be non-Muslims, perhaps some other minority sects should also suffer the same fate??..we are all so busy deciding who is and who isnt a Muslim that we seem to have forgotten the essence of religion..if we cant even figure out who we are, what belief do we follow??..to me at the moment it seems hatred and intolerance rule the day..and neither of these two are termed as religion..Recommend

  • Anwar Ahmad
    May 30, 2010 - 2:28PM

    @Shabah

    Saudis do not do it officially. Every year tens of thousand of Ahmadis perform Hajj and Umra from all over the world except Pakistan. They consider themselves Muslims and thus perform Hajj.

    There is only one incident on record when 104 Ahmadis living in Saudi Arabia were arrested and deported but there is nothing in their law and constiturion. Only Pakistani ID Card and Passport idenify one’s religion. Thats discrimination.Recommend

  • Juko
    May 30, 2010 - 9:49PM

    “religion and media are two weapons in the hands of elite to control the masses”Recommend

  • Shabah
    Jun 1, 2010 - 2:04PM

    To people who are claiming that Pakistan is alone in declaring Ahmedis as Non-Muslims. Here is a whole list of Fatwas from across the Muslim world including Saudi Arabia declaring them to be Non-Muslims.

    http://www.central-mosque.com/aqeedah/fatwas.htmRecommend

  • Jul 2, 2010 - 12:45AM

    Data Darbar Killings. Shameful.

    Pakistan Zindbad and “PAKISTAN SAY ZINDA BHAAG”.

    zAHRARecommend

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