A Pakistani in Dhaka — on March 23

Published: March 24, 2011
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The writer holds a BA in history from the London School of Economics and is a sub-editor at The Express Tribune 
saleha.riaz@tribune.com.pk

The writer holds a BA in history from the London School of Economics and is a sub-editor at The Express Tribune saleha.riaz@tribune.com.pk

The most exhilarating part of being in Dhaka, to watch Pakistan’s quarter-final against the West Indies, wasn’t the fact that it was an extremely easy win that has sent us sailing to the semis or the fact that me, my brother and his friend, with our painted faces and Pakistani jerseys, came on TV so many times that our phones wouldn’t stop buzzing with messages from excited relatives and friends back home, or even the fact that our decisive victory was on Pakistan Day — it was the Bangladesh crowd’s relentless support for us. The shirtless man with the Bangladeshi flag painted on his forehead, ‘Boom Boom Afridi’ on his chest and the Pakistan flag on his jiggling tummy said it all.

Whether it was the group running around the stands with the Pakistani flag or the boys making fun of how Chanderpaul stood when he batted — every few minutes I would forget I wasn’t in Pakistan, that we weren’t allowed to co-host the World Cup, that our inability to protect our own citizens, let alone foreign teams, had deprived us of watching matches at home for years, and I would start talking in Urdu to the man selling souvenirs. Only to have him look at me all confused, making me realise I needed to switch to English.

And the extreme support wasn’t just because the West Indians had crippled the Bangladeshi team in their group match and then complained that the Bangla supporters had stoned their bus, it was also because, before they had an international level cricket team, their support had been completely for Pakistan. And now we were number two on their list of favourites, for the simple reason that they were once a part of us.

During the match, the Mexican wave would just not end, and after doing it for the fifth time the (only other) Pakistani next to me said — “I’ve had enough, I’m not getting up for the next one. I don’t understand how these supporters are so enthusiastic about a team that’s not theirs.” But the Bagladeshis definitely didn’t see it that way.

One would think that given how unfair West Pakistan was to East Pakistan, they would still harbour negative feelings towards us, but not even a tenth of the India-Pakistan rivalry was evident in their attitude, and their genuine love was obvious from the enquiries of where we got our Pakistani jerseys from, at least a dozen of them wanting pictures with us, treating us like celebrities and the crazy celebratory stampede we witnessed post-match outside the stadium.

When the Pakistani anthem had played at the start of the game and my brother and I were half-shouting, half-singing along, a Bangladeshi boy next to us said: “We know the words, this was once our anthem too.”

Published in The Express Tribune, March 25th, 2011.

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  • jun
    Mar 24, 2011 - 10:55PM

    I am in Dhaka nowadays.I found all bangalies support Pakistan team and Pakistan is their all time favourite team .Recommend

  • saad hafeez
    Mar 24, 2011 - 10:55PM

    it felt so good watching the match on tv. it’s true, the atmosphere didn’t seem different from pakistan at all.Recommend

  • Wake up
    Mar 24, 2011 - 11:01PM

    Quote

    One would think that given how unfair West Pakistan was to East Pakistan, they would still harbour negative feelings towards us

    this is what India media and propaganda wanted us to believe…and now our so called literate youth are following suit….
    same indian propaganda machine is now trying to give traitor feeling to baluchis and break Pakistan further………Recommend

  • Mar 24, 2011 - 11:14PM

    :’)Recommend

  • Danish+S.
    Mar 24, 2011 - 11:17PM

    Your last sentence almost brought tears to my eyes…Recommend

  • Mar 24, 2011 - 11:20PM

    Speechless :)Recommend

  • Qudsia Sadiq
    Mar 24, 2011 - 11:38PM

    Brilliant article! Made me very emotional. Loved the Bangladeshi support for us. I watched that match in amazement as the crowds cheered “Thank you Pakistan!” and “Pakistan Zindabad!”Recommend

  • Hassan
    Mar 24, 2011 - 11:41PM

    Love Bangladesh! :-) From a Pakistani!Recommend

  • God
    Mar 24, 2011 - 11:55PM

    whattay, whattay ending line, miss!Recommend

  • Yasser
    Mar 24, 2011 - 11:58PM

    Impressive article…. full of emotions…!Recommend

  • Ashraful.Bengali
    Mar 25, 2011 - 12:00AM

    Thanks for praising. We are respecting Guests. But same respect we are not getting at Karachi or Islamabad. Same situation like in 1970s. Insaa Allah.. We are free birds now even though we are Poor. Please don’t think we will again join with You. We are no more East Pakistan. We are Proud Bangladesh.Recommend

  • akram
    Mar 25, 2011 - 12:05AM

    a Bangladeshi boy next to us said: “We know the words, this was once our anthem too
    Now how is that possible ?Bangladesh was born in 1971 out of us.
    And if that ghost boy next to you knew about paksitani national anthem at that time, he must be
    of atleast 5yrs old for argument sake.It means he was born in 1965.
    Now a person born in 1965 , must be 55Yrs old.
    Now can you please illustarate how can be just BOY.im sure he is your fictional ghost boy
    just to spice up and emotinalise the subject.Recommend

  • Akbar
    Mar 25, 2011 - 12:05AM

    I live in London and have come across genuine love from Bangladeshi friends. We are natural allies.

    Long live Bangladesh. Pakistan Bangladesh friendship ZindabadRecommend

  • a Pakistani in dhaka
    Mar 25, 2011 - 12:20AM

    the writer is right in saying that bangali people support pakistan. but it doesn’t mean that they like pakistan as a country or want to be with pakistan. cricket game is running like blood in their veins. and they have to support one team either pakistan or india. its that you saw the people supporting pakistan. you havent seen those who are anti pakistan and support india,.
    i am here in dhaka for last five years as a student, and i know how they hate pakistan and its people, and how they treat us. they even change the channel for 5 minutes when pakistans anthem is played, before starting the match.Recommend

  • Hassan :)
    Mar 25, 2011 - 12:43AM

    very nice article!
    hoping bangladeshis world wide will help us in prayers for crushing india on wednesday inshallah! Recommend

  • Blunt!
    Mar 25, 2011 - 12:54AM

    Emotional Attyachar! :DRecommend

  • Humanity
    Mar 25, 2011 - 12:55AM

    Pakistan owes a formal apology and compensation to the victims of its atrocities. Without the Bengali Muslims, Pakistan would not have been! Pakistan betrayed itself by betraying the Bengali Muslims. It still has not learnt any lessons other than chest thumping and hollow self praise.

    “Ironically and tragically, March 25 comes just one day after March 24, the day the resolution was passed. On the night of March 25, 1971, the army action began in former East Pakistan and soon turned into genocide, with millions of Bengalis mercilessly butchered and thousands raped by the defenders of the country. ‘Operation Searchlight’ was a complete negation of the independence and sovereignty embedded in the Lahore Resolution. The West Pakistani rulers, both military and civilian, refused to hand over power to the duly elected Awami League, which resulted in a resistance movement that culminated with the liberation of Bangladesh in December 1971. The unit of the federation in which the Muslim League was established in 1906 seceded from the federation!”

    http://pakteahouse.net/2011/03/24/we-have-failed-the-lahore-resolution/Recommend

  • Zeeshan Swalaheen
    Mar 25, 2011 - 1:03AM

    “We know the words, this was once our anthem too.”

    Damn…why the hell for their vested interest they stabbed to them. And I am more afraid that God forbidden someday more people will be saying this that ‘this was once our anthem too’.Recommend

  • mumtaz
    Mar 25, 2011 - 1:33AM

    lets not make an issue of what is just a writeup of someones personal experience during a match.we sitting at home saw and heard the cheers for the Pakistan team.thankyou Bangladesh for supporting us and cheering us on.may you enjoy your homeland and its sovreignity and we ours.Recommend

  • Bengali
    Mar 25, 2011 - 1:52AM

    I were half-shouting, half-singing along, a Bangladeshi boy next to us said: “We know the words, this was once our anthem too

    So bangladeshi boy ‘is’ 40 years old…LOL…cook it up but make sure it doesnt over cook!!Recommend

  • ani
    Mar 25, 2011 - 1:58AM

    @Akram:
    Brilliant observation. To add to what you have pointed out, we must believe that despite the shameful conduct and atrocities of the Pakistani armed forces against thier own citizens, the Bangladeshi’s were so magnanimous that they kept the Pakistani national anthem alive in their culture for almost three generations! It was popular enough for the “boy” to recognize and comment on it. Yes – almost three generations: 1) that suffered 2) their children (they would be 40 years old assuming they were born in March 1971) and 3) their children just like the “boy” who sat next to the author. Possible but really? Recommend

  • Umair Khan
    Mar 25, 2011 - 2:07AM

    Last lines made me way too upset and i felt like that when in bangladesh world cup celebrations were going on. That day i wrote few words at Thursday, February 17, 2011 at 11:06pm

    which i want to share with you.

    Just a while ago, i was watching ICC WorldCup 2011 Open Ceremony. It was wonderfuly arranged and beautifuly decorrated . While watching the cermony, in the background of my mind i was continously thinking that this is Bangladesh which was once part of Pakistan?

    Bangladesh of Bangali brethrens who were as much struggling for Independance from India in 1947. Bangali who were as much as Pakistani as others are since 1971 Bangladeshi and not Pakistani. All the story of how they separated from us was running in my mind while i was listening to their beautifuly sung national anthem. Sadly, our national anthem was once same which got different after 1971. Whome to blame, in few words i would say it was not giving them their due rights and share, and the indifferent attitude of leaders of the then Pakistan which led them to become Bangladeshi from Pakistani.

    Pakistan which was not made however for unequal distribution of wealth between its different units rather for the safeguard of the Muslims of East and West of India. Pakistan which was made on the call of “la Ilaha Illal Laho” the same Muslims who were once threatened that their rights might not be saved under the Hindu Dominated India were in 1971 fighting for their own rights under their muslim country fellows. It shouldnt have happened and could have been avoided , however maybe it was destined like that.

    Its lame to cry over spilt milk but its foolish not learning from History. After thinking for some while about Partition of Bangladesh, Balochistan came to my mind. Independance movements however are not active over there but they have been neglected for sure like Bangladesh since time out of mind. Balochistan is comparatively decades behind then rest of cities of Pakistan, with compare to Lahore, Karachi and Islamabad it might be century behind in development.

    Suddenly i thought What if in future same celebration of ICC World Cup were going on in a new country by that time called Balochistan. What if they were singing another National anthem tomorrow? What if it separated from Pakistan the way Bangladesh parted away. Bangladesh parted away after were not given their due rights, Balochistans cry is the same. Bangladesh was 50 percent of the then Pakistans population, Balochistan is 50 geography of present Pakistan. Good some revenue at that time was generated by east Pakistan and spent on West Pakistan, today Balochistan`s case is no different. Despite its Sui Gas alone being trasnmitted to other provinces, Balochistan it self is deprived from it.

    Situation in Balochistan how ever is not completely similar to that of 1970s Bangladesh to be compared in detail but it was Niglecting Your own People, not giving due rights to your own people, not developing the less developed areas, using their resources for other areas and not giving the share of their wealth to them caused the feelings of separation and inahilation. It was much earlier then 1971 that feelings of being treated as indefferent started in the Bangali people, 1971 was the show down of final partition time.

    What today`s Balochistan is little like Bangladesh can be similiar to Bangladesh in future if no good steps are takken. Shahzain Bugti last year in a tv interview said that all the independance movements will be burried forever even now if baloch people are given their due rights. He also said we want Strong Pakistan but will not let our share to be eatten by others while our own people are suffering.

    Truly even now its early and not late. Government should take good steps for more packages of development in Balochistan Province. Balochistan should be focused with regard to development like other major cities of other provinces are focused. As I do not want to see Cermony of some future Cricket World Cup celebrating in a new country being made on the land which was once land of Pakistan which Jinnah made. Recommend

  • Ghulam Mustafa Chaniho
    Mar 25, 2011 - 2:33AM

    Joy Bengal Joy Bengal.. Recommend

  • Samy
    Mar 25, 2011 - 2:35AM

    This is not propaganda. Pakistan is the source of propaganda. My parents and grand parents lived through Pakistan’s reign of terror, and has tried and continues to try and re-write history. Until you stop making excuses for crimes against humanity, until you strongly condemn the murder of innocent civilians, until you condemn violent gang rape against women, you will always be an enemy of Bangladesh. When I read about the Taliban and al-Qaeda saying things like they are healing the world, it makes me wonder how you are any different than them when you continue to deny the atrocities against Bangladeshis. You have to stop blaming all of your problems on India and realize that there are problems that are Pakistan’s creation. End your culture of apathy and there won’t be any looking back as your people take back their country! @Wake up: Recommend

  • Azmol
    Mar 25, 2011 - 2:43AM

    Im a bengali living in the UK. I am proud that Bangladeshis supported pakistan. it is natural, I know that all bangladeshi people and pakistani people genuinley have a mutal love and respect. we consider ourselves brothers and sisters. Bangladesh and pakistan have a shared history and as such there is certainly an emotional attachment. Yes the war was tragic but i think the people of pakistan and Bangladesh can remain proud of thier distinct nations yet have a shared unity. this is unlike the sad relationship between pakistan and India. Long live Pakistan, long live Bangladesh. Love pakistan. from a bangladeshi.Recommend

  • Golden Horde
    Mar 25, 2011 - 3:14AM

    Awesome article.

    Long live bangladesh and love live pakistan!!Recommend

  • Patriot
    Mar 25, 2011 - 3:20AM

    Typical …thats all i will say. Propagating us as the wrong doers and source of evil, then telling her own country how we were unfair. Where as the story if researched into is otherwise. @ wake up , well said most of us Pakistani’s have fallen prey to the Indian Propaganda. I m studying here in USA and there are very few Bangladeshis who donot abhor Pakistan. However i would believe the author to a certain extent, as during the whole dismemberment phase there was large percent of the Bengali Population who were known as the Pakistan loyalists. Some might have passed that on to their children…..Otherwise this article is a figment of someones imagination, a person who has fallen prey to the wide spread propaganda. However its not the authors fault, its the fault in our nation that we believe things before looking into it.Recommend

  • owaise
    Mar 25, 2011 - 3:39AM

    I hope you realize that March is a special time in the history of Bangladesh’s Independence movement. The army crackdown on March 25th when thousands of students and others were massacared is etched on the memories of Bangladeshi people…..and proved to be the last nail in the coffin of Unified Pakistan. Wouldnt it have been an appropriate gesture if our Captain Afridi would have paid a tribute to the Bangladeshi fans???..after thanking Allah he praised all those Pakistani fans who had been praying back home….not a word about the outstanding support from Bangladeshis!!! Only Hafeez thanked the crowd for their support. When will we learn to be sensitive??? As Faiz Sahib said” kitni barsaton ke bad metain gay khon ke dhabay”Recommend

  • Saif
    Mar 25, 2011 - 5:52AM

    @akram:
    Boy knew the anthem, maybe bcuz his parents are pro Pakistani. And his parents taught him the anthem. There are few pro Pakistani living Bangladesh and they want to return to Pakistan. They supported Pak nation in 1971….maybe that’s why he came to support Pak team. Makes sense?Recommend

  • bokalok
    Mar 25, 2011 - 7:14AM

    Thank you Ms Riaz for the article. You said:
    “…a Pakistani next to me said — “I’ve had enough, I’m not getting up for the next one. I don’t understand how these supporters are so enthusiastic about a team that’s not theirs.”

    You tried to answer this way:
    “But the Bagladeshis definitely didn’t see it that way.”

    I hope you will write again after the India-Pakistan semi-final. I hope you visit one of the public places where the match will screened (I would suggest (TSC area in Dhaka University).

    I also hope you ask people why(and who) they support (certain team/country) most

    My guess is that: most replies will amaze you.

    As for me, I consider most Bangladeshis of my generation are unreasonable. I wait for a new generation of Bangladeshis (say 10 year form now) who are reasonable, wise, honest and more ‘human’.
    (definition of reasonableness: you have same standards for others even if that means you as well)Recommend

  • Majeed
    Mar 25, 2011 - 7:33AM

    @Yasser: Right indeed! Full of emotions. But absolutely zero on facts and ground realities.

    =====

    The Bangladeshis have taken hands on the task of creating a nation by the bootstraps. They will likely never forget / nor forgive the atrocities heaped on them by Niazi-Bhutto. And we are cajoling or kidding ourselves into thinking that Humdoor Rehman’s report was a farce? Where is our own want, nay need, to accept the reason why East Pakistan no longer exists. Instead, we get all dewy eyed to this honey syrup ‘feel good’ khawateen gup-shup?

    =====

    Trust me, the Bangladeshis harbour no such illusions. They live in a very tough geographical terrain, with the poorest of resources and to ‘eek’ out a living, is not just some airy-fairy muhawaraa to them! That IS the national mode of existence. They are amongst the most pragmatic and seasoned people. Yes people, because of their identity … it is grounded very strongly in the Bengali / Bangla language, it’s literature and it’s overall secular ethos.

    =====

    They made the mistake once in 1947 siding with the West Pakistani brigade and wisened up the moment, they realised that they were being had all along. They will tell this to our face, and after I’ve met a couple, I don’t even bring the topic up. It is, needless to say, embarrassing and I have no stomach to face it for the nth time.

    =====

    And talking of the national anthem, Bangladesh has a simple one in the simplest of Bengali, called Amar Shonar Bangla (My Golden Bengal). And it was penned by a Hindu Brahmin. His name, in case we don’t know him, was Rabindranath Tagore; the first Indian / Asian / Bengali to be awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature.
    @Yasser: Right indeed! Full of emotions. But absolutely zero on facts and ground realities.

    =====

    The Bangladeshis have taken hands on the task of creating a nation by the bootstraps. They will likely never forget / nor forgive the atrocities heaped on them by Niazi-Bhutto. And we are cajoling or kidding ourselves into thinking that Humood Ur Rehman Commission Report was a farce? Where is our own want, nay need, to accept the reason why East Pakistan no longer exists. Instead, we get all dewy eyed to this honey syrup ‘feel good’ khawateen gup-shup?

    =====

    Trust me, the Bangladeshis harbour no such illusions. They live in a very tough geographical terrain, with the poorest of resources and to ‘eek’ out a living, is not just some airy-fairy muhawaraa to them! That IS the national mode of existence. They are amongst the most pragmatic and seasoned people. Yes people, because of their identity … it is grounded very strongly in the Bengali / Bangla language, it’s literature and it’s overall secular ethos.

    =====

    They made the mistake once in 1947 siding with the West Pakistani brigade and wisened up the moment, they realised that they were being had all along. They will tell this to our face, and after I’ve met a couple, I don’t even bring the topic up. It is, needless to say, embarrassing and I have no stomach to face it for the nth time.

    =====

    And talking of the national anthem, Bangladesh has a simple one in the simplest of Bengali. And it was penned by a Hindu Brahmin. His name, in case we don’t know him, was Rabindranath Tagore; the first Indian / Asian / Bengali to be awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature.

    =====

    Its constitution was originally defined for a Secular state. The word Islamic was injected into it by force. Till date, the fight is between those who want to prevent the radicalisation of the state by the Islamists. And why are the Bangladeshi secularists such a tough lot to contend with? Because they know what Islamisation has done to Pakistan. There you go, a secular state with a linguistic identity and a hardworking progressive ethos. It’s everything Pakistan should have been from the very beginning. Are we? Nuff said? I think that about seals it. Recommend

  • Haris
    Mar 25, 2011 - 7:56AM

    Yes you seem familiar now the cameraman must have got you and your brother about 4 or 5 times!Recommend

  • Noumaan Shamsi
    Mar 25, 2011 - 9:07AM

    @Wake up:
    what rubbish are you talking about? indian propaganda? We are talking about facts here. Educate yourself before you comment on an educated persons’ article.Recommend

  • IluvU
    Mar 25, 2011 - 9:31AM

    A drawning man will clutch at straws to save himself. Such is case with the Pakistanis with nothing going for the nation any small “crumb” of good news is enough to make Pakistanis filled with joy!
    Has any Pakistanis been to bangladeshi web-site? They spew venom against Pakistan. If u happen to be in UK try approaching a strange bangladeshi man, indroduce ur self as a Punjabee from india, then hear them spew venom..this is a real bangladeshi!Recommend

  • Ahmer Butt
    Mar 25, 2011 - 9:56AM

    Em Speechless.. :’)Recommend

  • Arif
    Mar 25, 2011 - 10:02AM

    My eyes are filled with tears on the last sentence of your column. Its really touchy even more in the sense that there is the ban on Pakistani anthem in Balochistan and sooner or later a Libya type situation will be made in Pakistan where we will not be allowed to keep Balochistan as our part. I pray that our leaders use their sensibility and skills that such a day do not come atleast in our lives that we see Pakistan getting broken again.Recommend

  • Narmeen
    Mar 25, 2011 - 10:02AM

    Very well written. loved the last line!Recommend

  • anil
    Mar 25, 2011 - 10:07AM

    “It is not possible by doing harm to someone”.Recommend

  • A pakistani
    Mar 25, 2011 - 10:15AM

    they have every right to hate us yaar!Recommend

  • Abu Saeed Khan
    Mar 25, 2011 - 10:15AM

    My first trip to Pakistan was in May 2000. I stayed in Islamabad Club for a week. That was the “pre-Internet era” in South Asian standard. I was hungry for local and international news. To the height of my surprise, all the Indian entertainment channels were crystal-clear except PTV. When I reported this “disorder” the Islamabad Club’s receptionist gave me a blank look. I immediately learned an invaluable lesson – entertainment knows no political bound. Cricket is just another entertainment. It should not be taken so seriously, let alone equating with any political view. Having good time time with my friends at a kebab-shop by the dusty sidewalk in Peshawar is more desirable than meeting the elites of Pakistan.Recommend

  • owais swati
    Mar 25, 2011 - 10:17AM

    loosing east pakistan is like getting a hand cut but the exceptional courtesy that the people have shown to our team still makes me feel bangladesh is a part of pakistan. thanks to lovely bengali nation long live the brotherhood.Recommend

  • Abu Saeed Khan
    Mar 25, 2011 - 10:21AM

    @a Pakistani in dhaka: Please contact me son and be my guest. You seem to be hanging around with wrong crowd. We don’t mistreat the foreigners regardless race, religion or nationality.Recommend

  • Muhammad Ali khan Golra
    Mar 25, 2011 - 10:33AM

    truly a reflection of muslim brotherhoodRecommend

  • Ahmad
    Mar 25, 2011 - 10:44AM

    Nice article but i think the support that Bangladesh crowd showed during the match was for two reasons;
    1. Pakistan was the obvious choice because of once common country
    2. And the second and more strong reason was the crushing defeat they had from WI during group match and they wanted a revenge.

    It was still, however, good to see overwhelming support for Pakistan. But Pakistan missed to score a point when none of the Pakistani players who were interviewed post match (including the Captain) showed their gratitude for Bangladeshi fans. They kept on thanking Pakistani people who went all the way to see the match.Recommend

  • rg
    Mar 25, 2011 - 10:44AM

    @Wake up:
    Thats right, The people in Bangladesh love us. We are their favorite country and people of all time. They want to be just like us. Never believe those propagandists in India. They are all liars. Recommend

  • Mar 25, 2011 - 10:44AM

    @Ashraful.Bengali:
    I am a Karachite and I love Bengalies more than some of the ethnicities live in Pakistan, I think it would be unfair to generalize like that. We love Bangladesh!

    http://tanzeel.wordpress.com/2010/12/16/man-behind-the-fall-of-dhaka/Recommend

  • rg
    Mar 25, 2011 - 10:46AM

    @Akbar:
    What a great thought. We should ask Bangladesh to join us again. I am sure they will agree. Those Indians are such liars.Recommend

  • grr
    Mar 25, 2011 - 10:47AM

    @Qudsia Sadiq:
    Me too. I was getting really emotional also.Recommend

  • awais
    Mar 25, 2011 - 10:48AM

    hum ke Thairey ajnabi itni madaraatooN ke baad
    phir banain gaiN aashnaa kitni mulaqatooN ke baad

    Kab nazar maiN aaey ge bai_daGh sabzey ki bahar
    Khoon ke dhabbey dhulain gaiN kitni barsaatooN ke baad

    dil to chaaha par shikasht-e-dil nay muhlat he na di
    kuch giley shikvey bhi kar laitey manajaatooN ke baad

    thay buhat baidard lamhey Khatm-e-dard-e-ishq ke
    theeN buhat bai
    mehar subhaiN meherbaaN raatooN ke baad

    un se jo kehney gaey thai “faiz” jaaN sadqa kiye
    unkahee he reh gai voh baat sab baatooN ke baad

    with love to all Bangladeshi brothers/sistersRecommend

  • A Neutral
    Mar 25, 2011 - 10:55AM

    Hi friends

    Don’t be too emotional by stadium support. entire BD establishment, intellectuals, academics, and media are staunchly anti pak. to them Pak is worse than nazis. BD at core is a confused nation. they are muslim when convenient and hindu alll the time. Recommend

  • Prof. Tahir Husain
    Mar 25, 2011 - 11:01AM

    God bless you, baettay.You have made a father very proud of his Pakistanee daughter.Since I know what was the original Pakistan, I have only tears of sorrow for what was ,and happiness for what is ,now in Dhaka….They are yours, my dear…A poor Pakistanee father has nothing more richer to offer to his daughter.Thank you, for being there, in our stead.Recommend

  • IamConcerned
    Mar 25, 2011 - 11:16AM

    Well you being in bangladesh, Kindly confirm (or deny) these reports:
    http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=178804

    ..this shows a totally different picture on roads of bangladesh! Recommend

  • Mar 25, 2011 - 11:24AM

    “We know the words, this was once our anthem too.” It watered my eyes !Recommend

  • Mar 25, 2011 - 11:45AM

    @akram
    Great argument.will the author rebut it ? Stop playing withe emotions.We have enough politicians for that.Recommend

  • Bangali Bhai
    Mar 25, 2011 - 11:50AM

    Dear,
    Pakistan Army had killed millions of Bangalizzz, despite this you people blaming whether Bangladesh hates Pakistan or not. you People should read the history. If we support Paki then you people should be thankful if not, it is our right because we are independent State. And i know how you people treat in Pakistan.Recommend

  • Tony Singh
    Mar 25, 2011 - 12:05PM

    Its strange! Blame everything on India. You won the game. What India has got to do with it? This author would even sing “long live the queen” as that Bangladeshi boy and feel emotional about it.. If Pakistan looses the semis with India then yes, they have every right to blame India.Recommend

  • Shehzad
    Mar 25, 2011 - 12:11PM

    Not to mention that the match was being played on 23rd March at Sher-e-Bangla Stadium named after A.K.Fazlul Haq….does this ring any bells to Pakis…..Yes he is the author of 1940 Lahore resolution….passed on 23rd March, 1940…Recommend

  • Arsalan J. Sheikh
    Mar 25, 2011 - 12:13PM

    I SERIOUSLY doubt any “boy” would be old enough to remember the words to our joint national anthem from before 71. A very emotional ending line, but highly suspicious.

    I’m a Pakistani, but I’ve had Bengali friends. The Bengalis are a brave, hard-working, and intelligent nation, and I wish them all the best. It saddens me to think of what the Pakistan Army and politicians did to them in ’71. I honestly think we owe them all an apology.

    However, I must also say that the idea that two areas separated by that much distance could possibly remain as one country was lunacy from day one. It’s like asking Spain and Bosnia to form one single country.Recommend

  • IamConcerned
    Mar 25, 2011 - 12:31PM

    @IamConcerned:
    Ooops! it read ‘1971: Kindly consider my post null and void.

    But still, Bangladeshi newspaper posted “hate” material against Pakistan , hope it wasn’t the similar mood in public.

    Hope to see more love shared among ppl of Bangla and Pakistan:
    http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1695224746518&oid=135961646428360&commentsRecommend

  • somel
    Mar 25, 2011 - 12:38PM

    We are still good friends and brotherly.Thank you very very much for your article.I think it is time for Pakistan say sorry to Bangladesh and be friend for forever.Recommend

  • Adnan Tariq
    Mar 25, 2011 - 12:54PM

    “The shirtless man with the Bangladeshi flag painted on his forehead, ‘Boom Boom Afridi’ on his chest and the Pakistan flag on his jiggling tummy said it all.”

    haahahahhhahah….. true!!!!!Recommend

  • wahwah khan
    Mar 25, 2011 - 12:57PM

    I ended the reading with misty eyes. very well written. I am in Australia. I have 5 Bangladeshi families all doctors. They cook for me, they feed me, they love me and they care about me. We watch the matches together. No doubt, they support us.Recommend

  • shahid rasheed gill
    Mar 25, 2011 - 1:01PM

    so attractive,realistic article, this made me emotional,watered my eyes.May Alllah reward u.Recommend

  • Shahriar
    Mar 25, 2011 - 1:07PM

    how badly we wanted to see Shoaib Akhtar play that day ..never mindRecommend

  • Shahnawaz
    Mar 25, 2011 - 1:17PM

    @Wake up: stop blaming India for God’s sake! If they make you believe that you should eat poison, would you do that? Look, that “brave” Musharraf boasting about his own people– in his book– being sold to Americans. Time to point fingers at us, and accept that we are our worst enemies. Just imagine what our collective wisdom could choose to sail us into the iPad age beyond 2011– Zardari. That’s what we are, an infantile nation which prides itself on selling our national identity, allowing it’s own people to be slaughtered by others, and opress the poor. It’s not India, we do it to all ourselves. Recommend

  • a ercelan
    Mar 25, 2011 - 1:18PM

    joi bangla!Recommend

  • IRFAN URFI
    Mar 25, 2011 - 1:19PM

    Excellent Post !Recommend

  • Mar 25, 2011 - 1:42PM

    They were one of us.

    Good article. Old memoriesRecommend

  • Mar 25, 2011 - 1:44PM

    I loved teh articleRecommend

  • Uza Syed
    Mar 25, 2011 - 1:50PM

    @a ercelan: Yes, indeed —– joi bangla! and joi Pakistan, too.

    Both Bangladesh & Pakistan ZindabadRecommend

  • ArifQ
    Mar 25, 2011 - 2:07PM

    Winning in the quarter final was sweet, getting Bengali support behind the Pakistani team made it even better. Sadly, there was no such acknowledgment from the Pakistani captain or man of the match.Recommend

  • Osman
    Mar 25, 2011 - 2:17PM

    @Azmol:
    Long live Bangladesh from a Pakistani.Recommend

  • Mar 25, 2011 - 2:37PM

    saleha
    I wish both parties have restrained themselves, and 71 would have been nothing more than 69………………….Recommend

  • Mar 25, 2011 - 3:05PM

    They were supporting the Pakistani cricket team. You should have said that you were associated with the Pakistani army and then seen what sort of response you got.

    When the Indian cricket team toured Pakistan over the past decade, and many Indian spectators crossed over to Lahore, they all wrote similar articles about how everyone was so nice to them. That however, doesnt mean that we today dont blame India for everything from terrorism to the electricity going off.

    Tomorrow is the 40th annivesary of Bangladesh’s Independence. Has anyone gone and read what Bangladeshi bloggers and writers are saying?

    Rather than owning up to West Pakistan’s role in a massacre, offering this emotional camoflahouge doesnt do justice to those who died, and gives yet another reason for all of us not to take any responsibility for what happened in what was East Pakistan.

    Also, theres a big difference between being Bengali and Bangladeshi. We dont even know how to properly identify the people with whom links we are celebrating and everyone is taking about how “Bengalis love Pakistan”.

    As for, “Bengalis were Pakistani’s statement above”. Please conisder that the Muslim Leage was formed in Bengal, the population of East Pakistan was greater than West Pakistan, so who seperated from Pakistan in the end? Recommend

  • Chilli
    Mar 25, 2011 - 3:16PM

    We were divided by wrong doings of few of us but the whole nation cannot be blamed for this. We still love our Bengali brothers and sisters and we will love them forever. We all share same history as and we are proud of it.Recommend

  • Titumir
    Mar 25, 2011 - 3:31PM

    And now we were number two on their list of favourites, for the simple reason that they were once a part of us.

    Why don’t you say we were together !Recommend

  • Junaid Manzoor
    Mar 25, 2011 - 3:48PM

    Its time the Pakis should admit the attricities they commited in Bangladesh and appreciate their support for our country in the World Cup… At least try to be neutral. LosersRecommend

  • Atif
    Mar 25, 2011 - 4:04PM

    oh wargay sub emotions. pakistan won and thats what mattersRecommend

  • Fahad
    Mar 25, 2011 - 4:23PM

    We know the words, this was once our
    anthem too.

    Tears in my eyes :( Recommend

  • G. Din
    Mar 25, 2011 - 4:49PM

    @Prof. Tahir Husain:
    Your heart-felt blessing is quite moving. I am an Indian. Nevertheless!
    History always puts its imprint on those who live it. No one can or should blame Bangladeshis for feeling the way they do. Their memories of mass massacres, above all mowing down of the entire faculty of Dhaka University (you are a professor yourself) will forever remain. But even such horrible and heinous acts can be forgiven. For that, Pakistan should tender a national apology to Bangladesh so that all that pain can be washed away. Nothing else will do! Those who are too proud to do that are leaving a bitter legacy to their future generations. Look at the Turks who still do not admit, much less apologize for, their Armenian genocide!
    Imprints of history are otherwise indelible. Five hundred years after, an abhorred symbol of humiliation, Babri was demolished because of a gene, planted by history, was activated! Recommend

  • Addu
    Mar 25, 2011 - 6:11PM

    Loved the fictional ‘boy’ standing next to you in the stands !!Recommend

  • Swati
    Mar 25, 2011 - 6:25PM

    Oh it makes me teary eyed to see so much love from pakistanis who slaughtered 3 million bangladeshis and waged a war on them. Is it really love or just to get a neighbour of India on your side and help with you islamic militancy?Recommend

  • Ali
    Mar 25, 2011 - 6:26PM

    You wrote,

    “And now we were number two on their list of favourites, for the simple reason that they were once a part of us.”

    Pakistan was also once part of India, Pls learn from Bengalis and suppost India.Recommend

  • Khalid Rahim
    Mar 25, 2011 - 6:52PM

    @Bengali:
    Next time make sure you write the name of your alley in Kolkota! After all you failed to bring the separated province back into your fold. With every passage of time Bangla Desh Muslims
    will learn how Indian created terrorist MB played havoc with their lives. Why not play the Semi in BD between India and Pakistan? Recommend

  • Just a Pakistani
    Mar 25, 2011 - 6:54PM

    May both the countries prosper as friends of each other!

    To all the Bangladeshis who will read this: We are sorry for how ruthless and cruel we were. Hope you can find it in your hearts to forgive us some day!Recommend

  • Amna
    Mar 25, 2011 - 7:04PM

    @Everyone saying she is making it up because the “boy” is too young to know about East/West Pakistan:

    I know many Bengalis that were born long after 1971, and they are taught a lot of hate and are very politicized by their parents. It is not something that should be so hard to believe. Most indians were born after the partition. They seem to know an awful lot about the partition. Or at least claim to.Recommend

  • LOL
    Mar 25, 2011 - 7:09PM

    Stop kidding yourselves. Young Bangladeshis are not as hateful of Pakistan in the same way that Young Indians don’t have the painful memories of Partition that their grandparents do.

    Bangladesh has no desire to reunite with Pakistan. India has no desire to reunite former Colonial India. We are all happy with where we are. We want to get people out of poverty, reduce corruption, protect others’ rights, etc.Recommend

  • sana
    Mar 25, 2011 - 7:24PM

    Bangladeshi people dont love pakistanis. i lives in uk in Bangali area and i work with alot of banglai people. They dont like pakistanis. Writer got too emotional with Pakistani win and forget the facts. she was there only for one day , Bangladeshis were angry with West indies for crashing them so badly in group match so they supported pak. Remember they stoned West indian team after that match against bangladesh.They got no love lost for Pak.
    Recommend

  • Truthseeker
    Mar 25, 2011 - 8:33PM

    An interesting article which in proper historical perspective could be summarised as
    ‘Sentimental Nonsense’.Recommend

  • Salman
    Mar 25, 2011 - 8:50PM

    Well let’s be honest with our selves what we did in Bangladesh was criminal. Although it was our military establishment that carried it our but we are all responsible for it. The least we can do now is apologizes. It show the bigheartedness of our Bangladeshi brethren that they are supporting the Pakistani team after all that.Recommend

  • Salman Raza
    Mar 25, 2011 - 9:04PM

    I seriously doubt the facts of the article now that the “Bangladeshi boy anthem” line has been exposed. The must have been atleast 6 or seven to learn the lines and remember it then. so I guess the boy was a minimum 45 or 46. The Bangladeshis supported us and its good. We would have done the same….just dont try to make it emotional. If u ask anyone in Germany why did they do what the did in the second world war he will give u one nasty look and tell u that he wasnt not alive in those time and has no guilt for it coz the simple fact is his generation did not do it. Same here…..we are a nation with a young population and whatever hapenned in Bangladesh was not done by my generation so dont pin the blame on us.
    Times have changed so we must just move on….there is Bangladesh and there is a Pakistan…two facts of history.
    I still think the boy knowing the anthem story was way overcooked. Was he on botox.Recommend

  • Mar 25, 2011 - 9:31PM

    I have tears in eyes , after reading the last lines.

    khaun key dhebbey dhulein gay kitni berstaun key baad???Recommend

  • rk azimuddin
    Mar 25, 2011 - 9:50PM

    let me tell this. I am a bangladeshi. Bangladesh will never forgive the pakistanis for what they in 1971. it will be in our history books for hundreds of years. We will not forget what you guys did. The support you got in dhaka is because of the spirit of the game. you either gotta choose india or pakistan, get it? we equally hate india and pakistan. get it? bangladesh will look down on u from the hill. mark my words! for ppl who doesnt beliv karma, it is already happening. look around u pakistanis. 1971 !!! joy bangla!Recommend

  • Bangash
    Mar 25, 2011 - 10:02PM

    You don’t have to know whole Pakistani anthem to recognize it. Its quite possible the boy next to author recognized the hymns and tune of Pakistani anthem.Recommend

  • shanta
    Mar 25, 2011 - 10:20PM

    im a bangladeshi 90% muslims here support pakistan in crcicket @ pakistani in dhaka plz tell me whr u live i wanna see mysel who hates pakistan like dat r muslims or hindus, if dey r muslims dey r among da rest 10% who still thinks pakistan is our enemy we dont , i guess urnt a paksiatni ur a indian supporter in disguice dat vry cummon here , pakistan national anthem i heard dat 2 im 28 i heard dem whn my parents say dey used to sing dat if sum1 knws dat anthem doesnt amaze me . and dats da love pakistan team gets frm bangladesh dey alwayz will sum people dnt want 2 see pak people like brothers dey always try to reate ight plz dnt pay attention to dem , Recommend

  • shanta
    Mar 25, 2011 - 10:25PM

    love for pakistan from dhaka may ALLAH help pak 2 win semifinal ameenRecommend

  • Madiha
    Mar 25, 2011 - 10:56PM

    @akram:
    the boy didnt say, “..i know the words”. he used “we”. its entirely possible that he knows the anthem. he probably has a pakistan-patriot grandpa or something. plz dont be cynical about everything. sometimes its OKAY just to enjoy beautiful emotions words. and no one can deny that Bangladesh was supporting Pakistani Team that day. lets not get cynical. Recommend

  • Mar 25, 2011 - 11:30PM

    Well if Bangladeshis are good to Pakistanis, it shows how civil they are. Can Pakistanis reciprocate by not calling their leaders ‘Indian Agents’ and their freedom struggle ‘Indian propaganda’. Can we revisit the Pakistan Study textbooks please.Recommend

  • Mar 26, 2011 - 12:01AM

    Well, its true that we had been unfair to the east Pakistanis and somewhere deep inside we regret. Recommend

  • akram
    Mar 26, 2011 - 12:02AM

    @ani:
    Thanks Ani.
    I am paksitani , but i have lot of UK bengali firiends and business partners.
    All i want is facts to remain facts , we as Pakistani owe a huge appology to Bangladesh
    for genocide, rape and thuggry committed by our holier than holy army.
    Any talk of Indian propaganda is absolute nonsense.
    Its about time that we young generations of pakistani admit the blunders made by our elders.Recommend

  • Mahmood Saeed
    Mar 26, 2011 - 12:22AM

    Good read……………………..and a well composed storyRecommend

  • A R Khan, Wisconsin
    Mar 26, 2011 - 12:53AM

    Love this article! Recommend

  • A R Khan, Wisconsin
    Mar 26, 2011 - 1:31AM

    Here in US, I have a friend from Bangladesh, a senior student in my graduate program. He and his wife have always been very very helpful to me in study and non-study matters… I have never detected even a hint of hateful feelings from them. From day 1 he has been like an older brother to me, we go to the mosque together, celebrate Eid together, listen to Atif Aslam together and discuss current affairs and stories from Pakistan and Bangladesh and India… there are no hateful feelings on either side. It’s all because we are NOT racists or bigots or emotional actors in the name of religion or country. We are among those who have learned the value of human relationships, and we believe in equality of all. Recommend

  • Arijit Sharma
    Mar 26, 2011 - 1:44AM

    @rk azimuddin: “bangladesh will look down on u from the hill. mark my words! for ppl who doesnt beliv karma, it is already happening.”

    If Bangladesh gets a handle on its population and is able to rein in Islamism, I see why it can not become another Malaysia in South Asia.

    Curious, that you mention “karma” – is there a concept of Karma in Islam or is it a Hindu import ?Recommend

  • G. Din
    Mar 26, 2011 - 1:52AM

    @Salman Raza:
    “whatever hapenned in Bangladesh was not done by my generation so dont pin the blame on us.”
    As long as you call yourself a Pakistani, you inherit both good and bad that is associated with that appellation. If you renounce that citizenship, you may have a point then! Don’t shirk your responsibility; honourable people don’t!Recommend

  • andrea
    Mar 26, 2011 - 2:55AM

    @rg: Live and let live my friend. I hate it when Pakistanis are not being truthful. Most Pakistanis are secretly content that Bangladesh separated and has formed its own nation. Ask yourself how many times you hear that among Pakistanis when they let their hair down and are more relaxed. We just feel peeved that our military and political leaders were so inept in having a war and not realizing the obvious: Bangladesh is 1000s of miles away to the East of India. They have a different culture, language and race than the native peoples of Pakistan. In many respects their culture is closer to the Indian people. My Pakistani family members respects brotherly Muslim nations but no one wants to join any of them. Frankly we don’t like it when other nationals settle in Pakistan on our land- be they from any of our neighbouring countries. Bangladesh deserves the respect and support of Pakistan but let’s not delude ourselves into thinking we want to join with them any more than they want to join with us.Recommend

  • Zeeshan Khan
    Mar 26, 2011 - 4:46AM

    @ Neutral – The entire Bangladeshi establishment is not anti pakistan, just anti what pakistan did in 1971.

    BD is not a confused nation – but you must be if you dont know thatRecommend

  • Mir Agha
    Mar 26, 2011 - 8:12AM

    Abu S Khan, obviously that ‘pakistani in dhaka’ is not a pakistani. A pathetic attempt at making a point, probably by an indian or our pseudo-intellectuals.Recommend

  • Avanti
    Mar 26, 2011 - 8:49AM

    I have an idea. What if Pakistan let Kashmir and Baluchistan go. Add Sindh to it too. Then they all will say “Pakistan Zindabad”. On the other hand, following Bangladesh’s example, shouldn’t the Pakistanis say good things about India? Well. It’s just a joke. Don’t take it too seriously.Recommend

  • Md.Abu Sufian
    Mar 26, 2011 - 10:15AM

    We Maximum Bangladeshi love Pakistan & Pakistan Cricket team as they are Muslim but remember we didn’t forgot 1971 when Pakistani government killed 3 million Bangladeshi.Pakistani new generation don’t know the real story of 1971.I think you should know how your corrupted devil government killed Bangladeshi & damage our property. If your military government showed respect to democracy then we were in a same country and could protest India more powerfully from both side but the military government didn’t handover power to winning party as a result they divided their nation and made India happy.Recommend

  • Dr. A Raja
    Mar 26, 2011 - 10:32AM

    We wish you good luck…Bangladeshi brethrens… if yo ufeel happy living on your own..so be it and all the good wises for you Long LIVE PAKISTAN … and long live bangladesh..
    Our elders might have done some mistakes but that does not mean we should carry on bad memories and don’t look to better future….
    learn from developed countries like for eg: UK and France who fought a war for 100 years and now they have joined hands to move forward…
    I know many many friends here is Uk who are from Bangladesh and they love pakistani people and may be pakistan too….

    Damn those people, wherever they live, bangladesh or
    India or..who spread hatred !!!!! They use the country name to spread the venom…Recommend

  • bhutjolokia
    Mar 26, 2011 - 4:00PM

    “We know the words, this was once our anthem too.”*

    Yet another Pakistani expatriate. Recommend

  • shafayat
    Mar 26, 2011 - 4:15PM

    ” this was once our anthem “????? booooo 2 the guy who said this(if actually that is uttered)…Recommend

  • Saq
    Mar 26, 2011 - 9:16PM

    Blockquote

    Blockquote> and now our so called literate youth are following suit Blockquote

    Blockquote

    As someone who falls into your demographic I can assure you that we were taught these things lessons in our mandatory Pak History classes where the books were authored by Rabbani (et al) and by teachers who I’m pretty sure were Pakistani like you and me.

    General Tikka (!) Khan is one name that comes to mind when talking about the love showered by our leaders in the day.

    @Author: Thank you for sharing your wonderful experience. We as a society can learn a lot for (all) our neighbors and exposure to humanity is essential for growth.
    I still remember when we lost to Bangladesh in the 99 WC; people responded with the typical “Satta laga tha” but I never came across a single person who was bitter that we lost to Bangladesh!Recommend

  • Rashed
    Mar 26, 2011 - 9:58PM

    There are many Pakistani supporters in Bangladesh. Infact,there are people fasting on the day of a Pakistani game! So this is what you can expect from Bangladeshi. Even though Afridi’s words, during the presentation, were arrogant and heartening, the Bangladeshis will still keep up the support.Recommend

  • Arsalan
    Mar 26, 2011 - 9:59PM

    BD is second home of all PakistanisRecommend

  • Salman
    Mar 27, 2011 - 3:01AM

    The last line was so fake, that it took legitimacy away from the article. How is it possible that a small boy Bangladesh would know the Pakistani national anthem, a well written obviously fictitious article.Recommend

  • Rajaniboss
    Mar 27, 2011 - 6:11AM

    I’m not trying to riposte every single comment against us, rather I would reply only one person named himself “A Neutral” here. Some of your idiot ancestors who were as idiots as “A Neutral” are the reasons of that broken Pakistan. I am Bangali, I am muslim and above all I am an Imaandar who never touches any alchohol….but some of you Pakistanis never spent a night without drinking….and u say u r saccha muslim! You called us ‘Hindu all the time’ …huh!

    There were no Indian auxiliary behind our birth. We were 50% of the whole Pak population in ’71 and we had our own ethnic language. We have thousands years of culture in our blood which your ancestors tried to oppress. The Lahore resolution was offered by She-E-Bangla A.K.Fazlul Haq who is a Bangali and after whose name the Mirpur stadium is labeled. Without that resolution, you could never have a separate country for muslims. Sher-E-Bangla Fazlul Haq was also a governor of East Pakistan. He is our pride. Mate, I know what you are learning on your text books since you were young. You are being said that it’s India who injected rivalry among the brothers of East and West Pakistan and it’s India who made us separated. No! It’s wrong. We are separated because of your despot behavior.

    Only few examples will show you our distinct identity. We are Bangali and we are muslim. There are Hindu Bangalis who are living in West Bengal a.k.a. Indian Calcutta, are also a part of us. The first Nobel Laureate from whole Asia is a Bangali whose name is Rabindranath Tagore. One of the topmost business tycoons in the world Laxmi Mittal was born in Calcutta, Nobel Laureate Amartya Sen and Dr.Muhammad Yunus are Bangalis, most of the top Bollywood performers are from Hindu-sided Bengal(Just check profiles from Wikipedia)….this will give you the whole idea how distinct we are from any other nations in the world. If we got the same opportunity before ’71 we could run your Pakistan as a 50-50 share….but you didn’t like that. You tried to impose Urdu on us. But we are different….we eat red meat….but we are not Bihari or Panjabi, we are BANGALI.

    In the end, I have a request to everyone, plz kick those stupids like “A Neutral” out of your border….so that at least you can save Beluchistan. Lastly, watch this video and you will know what ur ancestors did to our people http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbxQdRPHc4w.
    Regards.Recommend

  • suddho
    Mar 27, 2011 - 10:42AM

    We love Cricket, we love BANGLADESH. I think you are wrong Miss Saleha Riaz. You are confused with the emotion. From our ‘crazy about cricket’ attitute we support pakistan cricket team.
    The boys who told “We know the words, this was once our anthem too.”, they may not know their anthem now “Amar Sonar Bangla Ami Tomai Valobasi.” Recommend

  • IluvU
    Mar 27, 2011 - 12:18PM

    @shanta..a muslim from bangla desh..LOL what a joke..at least pick a muslim nick.
    ur a S(h)anta Claus!!!!!!!!!!Recommend

  • tanwir
    Mar 27, 2011 - 12:27PM

    @Azmol:
    just saying bangladeshi doesnot make you bangladeshi…stop spaming as a bangladeshi being a pakistaniRecommend

  • tanwir
    Mar 27, 2011 - 12:30PM

    @A Neutral:
    ya first part is true…but killing people in the name of jihad does not make you true muslim… In that case u can call us whatever u want..by the way..i have seen girls in karachi shopping center…wish i had taken some pictures…lolRecommend

  • A Bangladeshi by Heart
    Mar 27, 2011 - 12:39PM

    Stupid writing…. We Bangladeshis hate Pakistan by heart… and would hate until death… There’s no way to forget the atrocity, brutality of the genocide of 1971.Recommend

  • Nashid Sharmin
    Mar 27, 2011 - 12:52PM

    Listen,may be 10% or less Bangladeshis support Pakistan team only because they don’t want to mix the game with political issues..but that doesn’t mean that what happened in 1971 was just Indian Media’s propaganda..we heard from our parents about the actual situations of 1971..& be sure,most of the Bangladeshis will never forgive Pakistan for what they did with us..NEVER EVER..only some cricket lover people of a stadium don’t represent the rest 16 crore people of Bangladesh…we hate Pakistan & will hate till death…Recommend

  • salahuddin
    Mar 27, 2011 - 12:59PM

    It is our misfortune that the write got a totally wrong impression from some bihari people living in Bangladesh and some illiterate Bangladeshi who were present in the stadium and cheering for Pakistan. Most of the Bangladeshi who know a bit history regarding our liberation war just cant support Pakistan by any means in any issue. What pakistan did to us was absolutely inhuman. Although we will not be able to forgive them but yet they should have asked for an formal apology which they didnt.Recommend

  • wedont support frm hearts
    Mar 27, 2011 - 1:59PM

    no being bengali i definitely dont like the fact that some bengalis supported pakistan soo much..
    mainly because OUR country, our INDEPENDANT country Bangladesh isnt in the icc world cup anymore so why on earth would we support Pakistan, we all know that ppl who supported pakistan didnt do so from their hearts, they did support because of the heat of the moment, because it was happening in our country, the semi final..thats all you know so dont be so proud cuz u think we bangladeshis truly deeply support pakistani cuz we dont, remember 1971?Recommend

  • Mar 27, 2011 - 2:06PM

    the writer is right in saying that bangali people support pakistan. but it doesn’t mean that they like pakistan as a country or want to be with pakistan. cricket game is running like blood in their veins. and they have to support one team that is Bangladesh.Second option is India or Pakistan.We are not like west Pakistan.We hate them.Recommend

  • Rakibul Hasan
    Mar 27, 2011 - 2:27PM

    I am not a nationalistic freak,but that much support towards Pakistan is very unfortunate and it’s not the whole picture.The real literate and historically conscious Bangladeshi people have different views because what Pakistan did to Bangladeshi People before and during 1971 is unforgivable.Only some people do support Pakistan like that and say things like ““We know the words, this was once our anthem too.” (really I can’t believe a Bangladeshi can say that and how ignorant some people can be) Only because they are too ignorant about the history.I am feelings ashamed as a Bangladeshi citizen who said that.I do not have anything again the present Pakistan or its people, but we can’t forgive or forget what happened in past.But I am happy that Pakistani people felt good while enjoying cricket in Bangladesh and I am saying this only as a citizen of the host country.We don’t want to make our guests feel bad, but I can’t cheer for a country who not only ruthlessly exploited us financially and physically for 23 years, but also ruthlessly killed millions of people during 1971 and also did much more than that.Recommend

  • aamir ayub
    Mar 27, 2011 - 3:04PM

    @Wake up:

    it is high time we pakistanis learn to call spade a spade. We treated bengalis like if they were not humans. Ask the officers of the civil service who were posted there and what were their instrucrions from west Pakistan. Our enemy lies within.. soul searching is needed Recommend

  • Shahriar Mostafa
    Mar 27, 2011 - 4:34PM

    @ A Neutral :

    “BD at core is a confused nation. they are muslim when convenient and hindu alll the time”.

    how poor stupid Pakistani you are! you know, this is why Pakistan is going to finish…for you bull headed people! Listen Neutral…we are the most modest Muslim in the whole world. We know how to react..how to support..how to welcome the whole world. We were never confused. We supported you as a part of sub-continent..not for the love to ‘paak sar jaamin baad sar’ (to the ’emotional’ author Saleha Riaz)

    We are proud of 1971 !Recommend

  • Zakariya Moin
    Mar 27, 2011 - 4:46PM

    hi guys,

    Actually , West Indies bold out BANGLADESH CRICKET TEAM only 58 runs, so peoples wants PAKISTAN win against west indies .

    Just same like , NZ vs SA , BD people support New Zealand because South Africa bold out BANGLADESH only for 78 runs.

    Nothing else, BANGLADESH have 10000years long History , they don’t need or ruled by other guys now. BD economy & future much better than Today’s PAKISTAN.

    Moin
    Recommend

  • Rezwana
    Mar 27, 2011 - 5:35PM

    @A neutral…”Bangladeshis are Muslim when convenient and Hindu alll the time”. how dare u say that? u call ur self Muslim?u people are bombing in every Friday at jumma prayer..you dnt give respect to your womens- and u are calling ur self Muslims?what do u know about Bangladesh???never comment about something u dnt know.and all those Pakis commenting here- some Bangladeshi supports Pakistan cricket team but we all hate you as a nation , as a country. We are very fortunate that we are know longer a part of a hell god forsaken country named Pakistan. we have’nt forgot the history of 1971. west pakistanis killed 3 million people and raped 1 million women in Bangladesh. we kicked west pakistanis from our land once and never ever want to join u again.y would we want to join u? we are a independent country now and in much better shape than pakistan.we have’nt forget about 25th march when pakistani army killed thousands of people in the name of “operation search light”. u people dnt know what ur ancestor did in east pakistan. know about ur history. u people should ask for mercy to Bangladesh other than brag.u people have’nt changed yet. ur behavior with Baluchistan proves that..Recommend

  • Sabbir ahmed from dhaka
    Mar 27, 2011 - 5:48PM

    @ A Neutral :
    If BD is a confused nation at core, then look at pakistanis..are they not now?
    “they are muslim when convenient and hindu alll the time.” seriously what i learnt from history- paks differ from bangladeshi at one point-their military knew how to rape well, if that’s your taught you well, then i am an atheist..for your god’s sake

    I am a bangladeshi student and just want to u to know that ,when a country invaded another country for foreign diplomacy and all that stuffs and ended up with a war ,then the sufferers never forget & forgive for what had been done to them…..yes, To BD, pakistan is Worse than nazis, their military (should i say your military) killed lakhs & lakhs “civil” people , raped few lakhs, killed intellectuals………pretty wicked way to paralyze a country..IT”S NOT A PROPAGANDA , get yourself a history book and next time if you ever come to dhaka , ask any educated boy if he knew pakistani anthem..see what happens…i really doubt any “Boy” can sing pakistani anthem supporting a cricket team doesn’t mean anything..we love to watch cricket..and as a neighbouring country of this sub continent ..you got some cheers,applause,mexican waves..all that thingy i hope pakistan youth will oneday understand what their forefathers did to us till then forgive me, i have to use some slang against you Recommend

  • Manir
    Mar 27, 2011 - 5:52PM

    @a Pakistani in dhaka:

    do you even try to know why we hate you……..do you know what happened here in Bangladesh(East Pakistan) from 1947 to 1971…..do you know how your ancestors treated us….you can’t imagine how brutal they were……plz search the truth and u will find the answer why we hate you…….because you remind us some terrible experience that we went through during the period of your regime…….Recommend

  • Avanti
    Mar 27, 2011 - 6:33PM

    @Shahriar Mostafa:
    “how poor stupid Pakistani you are! you know, this is why Pakistan is going to finish…for you bull headed people! Listen Neutral…we are the most modest Muslim in the whole world. ”

    Agree 100%. The most confused nation right now in Pakistan. Like all of us, their original culture is Indian based, but they want to look like the Arabs who treat all of us like dogs. Bengalis – whether Indian or Bangladeshi – are probably the most proud of their cultural heritage. You can speak Bengali an still be a Muslim or a Hindu. You can wear a Saari and still follow your religion.

    My prediction is that Bangladesh will be a shining example of economic growth once it crosses a few basic hurdles because it’s citizens are not confused between economy and Islam or Bengali and Arabic. It’s a tale of two cities – India vs Pakistan or Pakistan vs Bangladesh. Pakistan is the one who will get left behind.

    We sincerely hope that Pakistan fixes its internal problems fast and join the club. Centuries ago, our land was a very progressive and rich country. We can make it happen all over again – as three independent brothers living in peace and harmony.Recommend

  • A neutral bengali
    Mar 27, 2011 - 7:59PM

    Cricket should not be confused with patriotism. Pakistan is a great cricketing nation like Sri Lanka for example. And Bangladesh respects that. There are ppl who support the Indian cricket teams too, however you will be very wrong if you think they support India because of their help during 1971 or support Pakistan as sadly BD was once East Pakistan. For future reference Bengalis hate being referred to as East Pakistanis. Why there was a war, why the lands divided is no mystery and yes Pak is to blame as most of you agree. But having said that, not all Pakistanis are bad! Specially the present generations. We are all capable of harbouring friendships. Yes some ppl will hate Pakistan but believe me most dont. They certainly dont want to become East Pak again because the spirit of freedom is important, but they are friendly. And they love Shahid Afridi. They also know how to greet their guests politely. The West Indies incident was a sad one performed by road side illeterate ppl who didnt even go inside the stadium. The general public is not so rude unlike most Indian fans.

    The last line where you mention that a boy says it was once their anthem too cant be true. My own mother was a school girl during 1971 and she cant remember a single word of that anthem. So if you want to appreciate BD your most welcome because we love all of you as fellow asians and muslim brothers and sisters. But DO NOT FOR ONCE SUGGEST THAT THE MEMORY OF BEING EAST PAKISTAN LIES FRESH IN OUR HEARTS AND WE CHERISH IT. Because we dont. Recommend

  • Salim Ansari
    Mar 27, 2011 - 8:52PM

    Pakistanis by nature are deceivers – not only do they deceive others, they deceive themselves. This feel-good article is an attempt at self deception. The last line depicts a superiority complex. History repeats.Recommend

  • tahan
    Mar 27, 2011 - 9:23PM

    … The support provided by the people was just bcz they don’t have any idea what happened in 1971…. the hatred will always be in our heart… nd also we feel shame as some of Bangladeshi people supported Pakistan with making flag print in their faces…. Recommend

  • Foysal
    Mar 27, 2011 - 9:25PM

    @ A Neutral: so you are trying to be the self declared Imam who is claiming all of the Bangladeshi people Hindu? Come on brainless person. Fear ALLAH and hold your tongue. Don’t try to be over smart as a Muslim because only ALLAH knows who is closer to HIM. Recommend

  • Foyzul Karim
    Mar 27, 2011 - 9:26PM

    @ A Neutral: so you are trying to be the self declared Imam who is claiming all of the Bangladeshi people Hindu? Come on brainless person. Fear ALLAH and hold your tongue. Don’t try to be over smart as a Muslim because only ALLAH knows who is closer to HIM. Recommend

  • tahan
    Mar 27, 2011 - 9:33PM

    story telling is good… BUT BANGLADESH IS ALWAYS DIFFERENT & WILL ALWAYS BE DIFFERENT THAN Pakistan.. Far goodRecommend

  • Roney
    Mar 27, 2011 - 9:57PM

    Judging Bangladeshi stereotype just by looking a match at stadium is insufficient. Only those who have have soft corner for Pakistan went to see the match which is clearly not the whole Bangladesh. Recommend

  • jabed
    Mar 27, 2011 - 10:34PM

    I think Pakistan will lose Baluchistan soon. Pakistani is the most worst nation in the world. They are rude, cruel and rascal. Most of the youth here are related with drug or terrorism. But they have many good players in Cricket & Hockey . Without it they have nothing. Pakistan is a country in the world, like HIV in human society. Please reform this country…….Recommend

  • a bangladeshi
    Mar 27, 2011 - 10:46PM

    stadium support is not the real scenario…..Recommend

  • Mar 27, 2011 - 10:47PM

    @a neutral…. what d hell… Recommend

  • another neutral
    Mar 27, 2011 - 11:06PM

    ooo !! Pakistanis are the real Muslims !! what a shame!!… Muslim couldn’t kill 3 million people and rape 200000 women and child… what a criterion of being Muslims…!!!..suppose, We are your so called Hindu.. Allah has not given you permission to kill people of other religion, could you please find any quote of the Holy Quran regarding this. You were given punishment from Allah in 1971 and it was Almighty’s will..SO DON’T TRY TO BE SO CALLED EXTREMIST MUSLIM rather THINK WHAT YOU’VE DONE AND REPENT TO ALLAH bcz WHO IS WHAT ALLAH KNOWS BETTERRecommend

  • hasnat
    Mar 27, 2011 - 11:10PM

    akbar, yes we will agree to join together. Our new country name will be Bangladesh. Capital will be Dhaka. Recommend

  • hasnat
    Mar 27, 2011 - 11:15PM

    @rg:
    we will agree to join together. Its a good idea. But ur new country’s name will be Bangladesh. Capital will be Dhaka. R you agree? Plz tell your govt.Recommend

  • raj
    Mar 27, 2011 - 11:27PM

    hi,
    writer….thanx for the report but don’t mix stadium environment with our mental sentiment of our nation. Your country’s young generation may not know the real fact what a massive genocide has been done by your country’s army in Bangladesh 1971. Your text-book in school may be ploted as a conspiracy of India but if you look through the web & books, u can find 3000000 innocent & unarmed people killed. So is there any difference betn your army & Nazis. Being a muslim, one can support a muslim but the brutal act your army has done, for that the major portion (96%) people of country will never support Pakistan again as long as Pakistan want forgive to Bangladesh for their act in 1971 in Bangladesh…..I have no problem with common people of pakistan but ur government should apologize for their past genocide in BD.

    Joy Bangla..Recommend

  • mary
    Mar 27, 2011 - 11:40PM

    @akram:
    I agree in order to prove a point the writer has made a major blunder there. She could’ve wondered aloud here, something along the lines of how it left her wondering how many in the spectators remembered the words to the anthem which afterall had been there’s too.Recommend

  • Mushfiq Us Salehin
    Mar 27, 2011 - 11:49PM

    I am a Bangladeshi & i am a crazy fan of “Pakistan cricket team”. I supported them from the time i knew cricket. I jumped in joy when Shoeb Akhtar bowled Sachin & Dravid like a Pakistani would do. & yes, now, they are my second favorite team. Nothing comes before my country Bangladesh.
    But Remember one thing, i support & love “The Pakistan National Cricket Team” not “Pakistan the country”. I don’t support Pakistan because we were once a part of that country but because i like the cricketing talent they have, because of the unpredictable nature of that team. Purely cricketing reasons.
    Pakistan enjoyed a great support here, if India played here, they would also enjoy this kind of support. There is a huge amount of Pakistan-India fans here. Indian fans don’t support them because they helped us to achieve independence but because India have lot of great players. There is a huge excitement over here about the Pakistan-India match. When Bangladeshi people came to know about cricket, Bangladesh Cricket team was not in a good position. So, we supported teams like West Indies. Than Pakistan & India won world cup then people started admiring them. It had no political reasons behind it. Don’t mix cricket with politics. We don’t do so.
    We, Bangladeshis are proud to be Bangladeshi, we are happy that we are not part of Pakistan. We don’t have any hatred for the Pakistani people. But we don’t like the Pakistani rulers. We can never forget what they did to us. Killing 3000000 people of our country, abusing 200000 women of our country. & they never even said a sorry for that. How can we forgive & forget?! Thats impossible. I don’t know what Pakistani people think of us, but i would like to think they are not like their rulers.
    We have our own culture & heritage & we are proud & happy with that. Don’t judge others based on yourself. We respect your feelings & culture, you should also respect others.
    We have our own beautiful National Anthem & you have yours. We know the words of yours cause that was once our National Anthem. But we are happy that “Pak Sar Jamin Saad Bad” is no more our national anthem. That anthem reminds us the pain of the past. We are happy with our very own National Anthem “Amar Shonar Bangla”.
    I want Pakistan to win the world cup because thats my second Favorite team. But if i read these kind of thing again then i don’t know, may be i could never be able to support them any more. Recommend

  • W Alim
    Mar 28, 2011 - 12:12AM

    I cringe at the last line of the article.Recommend

  • Sami
    Mar 28, 2011 - 12:37AM

    @A Neutral:
    WTF… “they are muslim when convenient and hindu alll the time”, what do u know about Bangladeshis’? u have no idea about about their nature and i am sure that u have no clue about the genocide that happened in Bangladesh!! Forgetting these, the Bangladeshis supported Pakistan Cricket Team for the sake of Cricket and only Cricket. They are crazy about Cricket, otherwise its totally unfair to hold up PAKISTAN flag and singing National Anthem as their OWN ANTHEM!!! that’s totally ridiculous!!Recommend

  • Please look at your bad points and other's good points.
    Mar 28, 2011 - 12:41AM

    I wonder if the author was born at that time i.e. 1971. May be she missed this portion of History thus hard to understand the feelings of Bangladesh brothers. But its true being a 9 year old then I used to feel the behavior of some away-from-care-elders attitude degrading even today sorry to say its the same. But we receive tablighi jamaats from Bangladesh and many similar ones from Pakistan sent to Bangladesh Alhamdolillah no problems. Recommend

  • dhakaiya
    Mar 28, 2011 - 12:45AM

    though lot of us support Pakistan cricket team, still we don’t like the COUNTRY Pakistan. Because the murders & rapes of 1971 can never be forgotten by any Bangladeshi.

    “BD at core is a confused nation. they are muslim when convenient and hindu alll the time.”
    – I strongly disagree this comment. he/she who wrote this doesn’t have any idea about Bangladesh. I will just ask one question to all muslim friends, does being a muslim means that you have to hate other religion?? if your answer is yes then i will suggest you to read the Quran.Recommend

  • Samreen
    Mar 28, 2011 - 12:59AM

    Hey everyone up there, we on Facebook are having fights with a few negative people who are spreading hatred by saying they hate Pakistan just because we were supporting Pakistan openly. I have been a fan of Pakistani team since 1990 when my dad taught me cricket! I met many of the players including Aamir sohail, Zaheer Abbas, Imran Khan, Javed miandad (who told me the meaning of my name which I didn’t know before ). I was so happy to meet them. We love pakistanis as my parents were born in the then Pakistan. My parents never taught us to hate your country or your people. In fact my paternal grandma and my dad’s younger sister stayed back in Karachi after partition. My dad’s sister even married to a Pakistani. We do not hate you. We genuinely support your team as you guys play really well if you want to and play really bad at times too-unpredictable as I always say. Majority loves the team but somehow some people namely politicians incline in using historic incidents as an object to influence people-people who are naive and innocent. We cannot Blane these people for believing anyone else’s made up theories although the genocide did Take place no matter who denies it. But we are there almost to make people accept the world with more openness than any other country I know. It us also fault of some USA born pakistanis, Indians and bangladeshis who love to spread hatred among others by being racists or making remarks in religion or country-automatically their historical enmities are pulled in. Don’t compare pakistanis and Bangladesh or Indians who are born in USA with those who are norm in the original countries. We are not bad people. It is only news from mouth to mouth that makes everyone sound bad. Please let’s stop spreading hatred and start loving everyone and encourage everyone to love others too. Don’t forget pakistanis that even people in your country, innocent people are victims of your own govt. and we don’t support that too. May Allah bless all if us so that we can live in peace by forgiving everyone and looking ahead and not behind!Recommend

  • Anti-Pakistan
    Mar 28, 2011 - 1:24AM

    Pakistan sucks!!! We Bangladeshis hate Pakistan. May be less than 1% Bangladeshis support Pakistani Team. You guys don’t know what your previous generation did with Bangladeshis. They killed 3 million Bangladeshis during 1971. If other country kill this much people do you still love them?Recommend

  • hussain syed
    Mar 28, 2011 - 1:55AM

    @Wake up:
    Seems like the “wise bhudda” who himself has taken a pill of morphine laced with nationalism is asking for the youth to “wake up”. “Indian propoganda and lies”, get real Pops. The attoricities that Pakistan committed on the Bengalis are as real as the moon and the sun. Whether you chose to ignore the facts or not does not change the course of this dimension us “illiterate youths” live in, and its called REALITY. Recommend

  • Puttolika
    Mar 28, 2011 - 2:06AM

    Well… Being a Bangladeshi, I am ashamed about the statement the boy uttered ““We know the words, this was once our anthem too.” As far as I am concerned, Anything from pakistan was never ours, neither will be. I don’t know who loves pakistan in our country, but i know millions of people who HATES Pakistan more than anything else. I can proudly say that, I AM ONE OF THEM.

    But still There are bunch of Stranded Pakistani’s in Mirpur and Mohammadpur area (living in slums and camps) , who still worships Pakistan and who never managed to enter their “Paak Sarzamin” in last 40 years .. and we BANGLADESH gave them shelter, Thats our kindness and Mirpur stadium was full of those stranded PAKI people as supporters, i can assure that.. but a genuine Bangladeshi, can never support, love and forgive pakistan, neither they can forget 1971…

    whatever you say, whatever you write, Can you return our 30 lac lives? Can you return the honor of our mothers/sisters that are brutally snatched by your people? The ans is, NEVER!!! So.. To hell with your column, to hell with your emotions.. Be thankful to Allah that you are lucky enough to see our Beautiful country. You, Pakis.. are never forgiven.. anywhere.. we and our next generations will keep this fire f hatred in our heart , FOREVER !!! Recommend

  • Steve Walker
    Mar 28, 2011 - 2:12AM

    I think the only reason they put the camera on you is you are so very pretty!Recommend

  • dr.ali
    Mar 28, 2011 - 2:15AM

    i can understand the feeling, i have watched the matach and fortunatly i have read the history.During all these years of propaganda game in which they are taking revenge of 500 years of ocupation, they forgot that truth can never be hiden.
    The reality now is bangladesh is a proud nation,it is brother who is seprated from us, blam game is not acceptable , who is wrong letus leave it to history, we cannot hide our emotions and love for eachother and as a proud pakistani i love bangladesh and my bangla desh brothers and i can rest assure them that if a bangla desh versus anyother nation match in pakistan they will not gets national emotions in pakistani soils but also tears of joy. for my bangladesh brothers please read book bloood and tears written by a bangali. Recommend

  • Riaz Ahmed
    Mar 28, 2011 - 2:26AM

    @a Pakistani in dhaka and The Author:

    We Do not have any hard feelings for any Pakistani as an individual (who was not involved directly or indirectly in the Genocide of 1971). But when we hear the word Pakistan we visualize 3 million dead bodies of our country man and 300000 of our raped mothers and sisters.Put yourself in our position. Can you tolerate? Even after 40 long years your nation is cruel and inhuman enough not to show a formal apology. We are kind enough just to change the channel not change your name(Putting a “Late” before your name). What would you do if you were in our position.

    Till today, I personally appreciate two persons of Pakistan. One is Hameed Mir, a journalist, and Imran khan who said sorry to us(Hameed Mir, in his column and Imran asked your Govt to apologize).

    I am clearing one thing to the writer about the “Boy”she referred in the story. There are few thousands of Urdu spoken people live in this country and their native country is Pakistan. These people or their parents/grand parents were in Bangladesh for earning their livings. But when we defeated your Army these people were refused to enter their own land and we also refuse them as Bangladeshi. But for Humanitarian ground they are allowed to stay in this country and earn their living as a normal citizen, but they are not allowed to participate in our Elections. Government of Bangladesh Tried to solve this issue several times in the diplomat level but again your Government did not show any respect to the right of these people and denied to rehabilitate them in Pakistan.

    Now my friend, if you(Pakistani Government is elected by the people of Pakistan, that is why I am stating “You” ) are not allowing your countryman to stay with you in your country how could you talk about friendship and brotherhood between Bangladesh and Pakistan.Recommend

  • Riaz Ahmed
    Mar 28, 2011 - 3:04AM

    @Amna:
    Dear Amna,
    A nation is nothing without its history. The reason for hatred is absolutely logical. Recommend

  • Imran Dayan
    Mar 28, 2011 - 3:10AM

    Thats not true i use to support pakistani cricket team alot when Wasim akram and other players were their .But after reading this blog i will never support them .We hate Pakistan because of 1971 and we will till the end of the world ….Recommend

  • riyadh
    Mar 28, 2011 - 3:16AM

    no, never, we are not agree with you, those some people in the stadium, they actually son of razakar and albodor as we call in our Bangladesh, who betrayed our country Bangladesh.

    take a look at this that your fater did to Bangladesh

    see some article and video clips.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x-94U1bVUQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x-94U1bVUQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgKPui9VtU0&feature=related

    http://www.google.com/search?q=bangladesh+1971&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=VlJ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=ivns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=7raPTdyxKMfDswbI6MSGCg&ved=0CEkQsAQ&biw=1360&bih=518

    finally i want say, i am Bangladeshi, i am proud to be a Bangladeshi and our one demand to Pakistan government, you must apologize nationally. Recommend

  • Gollay Ja Bokchod
    Mar 28, 2011 - 4:18AM

    @ A Neutral: So to you, supporting pakistan makes people muslim? And not supporting pakistan makes people hindu? What are you … God or something? Get a freaking life.Recommend

  • bangladeshi
    Mar 28, 2011 - 5:09AM

    to the writer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playerembedded&v=bO9lhnZK1M

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10rsTodevOo&feature=related

    we are friendly with you because hatred does not bring any good. but that doesn’t mean we forget. you people should know how ugly your ancestors were. see those videos (only 2 videos of many) and study then decide whether you can claim yourself as good human being (claiming Muslim is far away) Recommend

  • Mar 28, 2011 - 5:29AM

    Well… Being a Bangladeshi, I am ashamed about the statement the boy uttered ““We know the words, this was once our anthem too.” As far as I am concerned, Anything from pakistan was never ours, neither will be. I don’t know who loves pakistan in our country, but i know millions of people who HATES Pakistan more than anything else. I can proudly say that, I AM ONE OF THEM.

    But still There are bunch of Stranded Pakistani’s in Mirpur and Mohammadpur area (living in slums and camps) , who still worships Pakistan and who never managed to enter their “Paak Sarzamin” in last 40 years .. and we BANGLADESH gave them shelter, Thats our kindness and Mirpur stadium was full of those stranded PAKI people as supporters, i can assure that.. but a genuine Bangladeshi, can never support, love and forgive pakistan, neither they can forget 1971…

    whatever you say, whatever you write, Can you return our 30 lac lives? Can you return the honor of our mothers/sisters that are brutally snatched by your people? The ans is, NEVER!!! So.. To hell with your column, to hell with your emotions.. Be thankful to Allah that you are lucky enough to see our Beautiful country. You, Pakis.. are never forgiven.. anywhere.. we and our next generations will keep this fire f hatred in our heart , FOREVER !!!Recommend

  • Moin
    Mar 28, 2011 - 6:28AM

    @Zeeshan Swalaheen: Vested interest !!! you must be kidding. Please read the history carefully before making any judgement. whole saga happened due to the then west pakistani military action and their vested interest. i am sure the civilian didn’t want the separation. A proud BANGLADESHIRecommend

  • Farooq
    Mar 28, 2011 - 7:27AM

    I am a bangladeshi; and I have seen atrocities committed in 1971. Personally I bear no hatred towards Pakistani people. But I have come to know that Pakistani school text books do not teach the truth about how Bangladesh came into being. I have seen that most of the Pakistani people still think that it was the Indians who separated us from west Pakistan. This is not the truth. Dear Pakistani people -please read all the literature, articles, vidieos etc. available in the internet and learn the truth. You certainly will feel good, and your respect and love for neighbors
    will certainly increase. For starter- may I suggest you to read “Hamudullah commission report”, and “witness to surrender”; and than please review Pakistani budget till 1970. You will find how East Pakistanis were treated and see the economic disparities created by the then Pakistani government. I wish all the best for Pakistani people and their cricket team. People of East Pakistan shed lots of blood, and lost millions of lives to make Bangladesh. I hope, you respect us as Banglesdehis, and we respect you as you are.Recommend

  • Nawshin
    Mar 28, 2011 - 9:21AM

    @ A Nuetral: Fortunately enough, the last nation that Bangladesh would ever want the certificate on their Muslim identity would be Pakistan. We are a secular nation and thus we dont face special screeing at every single airport we go through. And we pray 5 times a day yet we respect the religion of others unlike you guys who had eradicated your minority polpulation and now have started to kill some more muslim brothers. Pakistan is probably the only “Islamic” state where mosques are bombed! Recommend

  • Munzar Ata
    Mar 28, 2011 - 10:37AM

    Till the time Pakistan is fit for holding international cricket matches, I suggest that Pakistan Team should share the venue of its matches between Dubai and Bangladesh.Recommend

  • Gaara
    Mar 28, 2011 - 11:00AM

    @A Neutral:listen to urself,why are you talking abt religious view,did this religious view do any good during 1971 or earlier??
    U are right abt stadium support,we,bangladeshis dont like pakistan as a country for what they did to us and this can never be forgotten or forgiven…..
    There are pakistanis who live in Bangladesh and some of them are my friends also…but if any pakistani thinks that ,for giving the support in a game,we have a warm feelings for them he is mistaken.If my friends hold the ideology that we like pakistan and we have forgiven them and (most hilariously) we want to be together with them and we are a part of them,i will surely abandon them.We have different culture and by culture we are hospitable.So,dont get the wrong idea.Recommend

  • bangladeshi
    Mar 28, 2011 - 11:41AM
  • Mar 28, 2011 - 11:42AM

    First of all, the last line of this article is absolutely a pathetic lie and definitely a sympathy attracting fiction of this fancy writer. I like Pakistan cricket team, they are unpredictable! “Cricket has no particular bound” It is the only reason for Bangladeshis to support a team although they hate that nation more than anything they can hate. Here i’m repeating again, many Bangladeshi like and support Pakistan cricket team. But except cricket, almost every Bangladeshi hate Pakistan nation from heart and soul. And we have all and every rights to hate Pakistan nation. So don’t dare to mixup.Recommend

  • global_bangladeshi
    Mar 28, 2011 - 11:54AM

    @a Pakistani in dhaka:
    As a Bangladeshi born in the 1980s, I can vouch that your comments are inaccurate. The current political party does a lot of anti-pakistan propaganda whenever they come in power, and rewrite history books. Because of that misinformation, some young people who have never been outside of BD all their lives and never interacted with a pakistani person face to face imagine Pakistanis, especially the military, to be ruthless monsters. This image is based on partially true/exaggerated accounts of the events of 1971.
    I myself have a very close childhood friend who is Pakistani, and your comments are insulting to our friendship. Recommend

  • Mar 28, 2011 - 1:24PM

    That is just the reason why we say sports can stir marvels … a Bangladeshi boy saying “We know the words, this was once our anthem too.” really touchy … I just loved it … even we are very far apart … a long distance … at least we once shared the common history … our hearts still beat as one … i remember when Bangladesh beat Australia for the first time i was cheering , shouting and praying … I guess that’s called a sense of belonging !!!Recommend

  • Proud Bangladeshi
    Mar 28, 2011 - 2:02PM

    @rg: u should read the previous comments before giving such complement. Here, I clearly want to declere that, we Bangladeshi, hate Pakistan and will hate forever. ‘they have every right to hate us yaar!’ thanks @ “A Pakistani” to understand the main point. Just think..if A Bangladeshi army with cool brain, shoot all ur famity member and rape ur mom..can u still think about muslim brotherhood? We Bangladeshi know very well what Pakistani did named by Islam. And yes, for the Bangladeshi Pakistan supporters, who dont want to mix 1971 with “fair game”..we use a local word for them..”Bangistani”. They are our true SHAME.
    Another thing I want to make clear here that.. dont create any issue relating India with it. Its ur problem. Bangladesh is a land of both Islam, hindu, Buddhist and Christans (Muslim majority) and we are living without any religious conflict. We r thankful to India for helping us at 1971 bt not PET..and will never. Now, Bandladeshi young generation is not so stupid to being motivated by any country like India or by religion. Our identity is “Bangladeshi” and trust me..I am proud of that.Recommend

  • i m bangladeshi
    Mar 28, 2011 - 2:53PM

    @rg: ”We should ask Bangladesh to join us again. I am sure they will agree.”’
    what a funny comment ..
    You guessed totally wrong ”rg” .We don’t want this,NEVER EVER.Recommend

  • Shafayet
    Mar 28, 2011 - 4:08PM

    Hi,

    We Bangladeshi always wanted to have a worm relationship with other. I am ex-trimly glad that you realized the fact and understand that. We support Pakistan Cricket team for their lively game. Really nice and fun to watch. We appreciate Paki Cricket very much. We also have a vast supporter of Indian Cricket team as well specially Sachin:). We are always curious and love to take the good part of the JOY :)

    Yes, once we were together. But now we are not. That doesn’t mean we don’t feel you. We do feel Pakistan. On the other hand it is also true we are proud of being independent. We love our independence most of anything in this world.

    Now I saw somebody says

    “this is what India media and propaganda wanted us to believe…and now our so called literate youth are following suit….
    same indian propaganda machine is now trying to give traitor feeling to baluchis and break Pakistan further………”

    In this case I hope my brother should visit the Muktijodha museum located in Dhaka. You will see the pictorial prove of West-Pakistan army’s brutality. How they raped the woman and kill them, fired the house and killed the innocent civilians and buried them. We just recently [5-8 years ago] found one grave yard with thousands of people’s skeleton.

    I am sorry if I hurt anybodies feelings but it was true. Unpleasant truth!
    And that is also true that we don’t hate Pakistani general people never do actually. Because in the deep down of our heart we know if they knew, they didn’t support this massacre either.
    I will request to all of my paki bro and sis to read book like “A legacy of blood”.

    Until that you are always welcome to our city/Country for visit. We will host you and make you feel home and it will be fun together :)Recommend

  • Mohd Ikram
    Mar 28, 2011 - 6:14PM

    @Ashraful.Bengali:
    100% correct & we all Pakistani respect your views.Recommend

  • bikash
    Mar 28, 2011 - 7:17PM

    It clearly reveal the soul of RAZAKAR is still growing in many Bangladeshis………….This is the bad luck of BangladeshRecommend

  • Azhar
    Mar 28, 2011 - 7:27PM

    I born in 1985.Whole heatedly I hate pakistan,pakistani people,pakistani cricket.Dont believe on the crowd.They r just the simple- generous people of BD..I hate pakistan for what they did 1971 and will make my children realized to hate pakistan.
    That was just not a war ……it was a genocide ..a massacre .
    Check it……http://www.genocidebangladesh.org/Recommend

  • Abdul-Mughis Rana
    Mar 28, 2011 - 7:35PM

    I agree to the extent that Sheikh Mujeebur Rahman deserved to get leadership of Pakistan but when a group of people are in a country do they need people to respect them to make them stay with the country or you stay do deeds so the people respect you for that. I have many brothers like freinds in Bangladesh. I have never thought of them as anything less than my brothers!!
    I lost a very near one in 1971 killing in defence or getting killed was his choice he choosed the latter.
    The Author wrote what she saw in some spirit she was not even there in this world then but being a history student she should have known the sensitivity of the subject. Lets watch cricket now.Recommend

  • HASSAN REZA SAEED
    Mar 28, 2011 - 9:28PM

    @rg:
    keep dreaming gentleman. you all are living in fools paradise. will bangladesh join pakistan again. what a foolish inquisitiveness.apart from few collaborators every single bangladeshi will seek justice and answer to the atrocities committed by the then pakistani regime. i know the young pakistanis knows less about how the creation of bangladesh came into being. just dont get messed up with cricket and politics. we support you for the sake of cricket cause you really play cricket the way it should be played. the last line brought tears in the eyes of many pakistanis. but we have been crying for the last 40 years seeking answers to a simple question is there any barometer to measure attrocities and brutalities committed by your ancestors. did you ever feel guilty of what you people have done during the period of 1971.
    and to the islam loving pakistanis…….. secular bangladesh does give freedom to all religion. i being a muslim proudly announcing that, we will never mess up religion with politics which pakistan has failed to do.Recommend

  • A Hossain
    Mar 28, 2011 - 10:38PM

    Thank you for appreciating our support. We love our cricket and we know how to separate sports from politics and history (for most part, at least). And while we are extremely happy that our hospitality towards our guest and our support for the Pakistani team were so well received, I would still like to make just a couple of points.
    @ A Neutral: for your information, Bangladesh is not a religiously affiliated country. It’s a Muslim majority but secular nation. That does not make us a “confused nation”.
    @ owais swati: “loosing east pakistan is like getting a hand cut but the exceptional courtesy that the people have shown to our team still makes me feel bangladesh is a part of pakistan.” as much as we appreciate your gratefulness, Bangladesh is not a part of Pakistan. Neither do we want to be, thank you very much. I wholeheartedly agree with Ashraful.Bengali when he says “We are free birds now even though we are Poor. Please don’t think we will again join with You. We are no more East Pakistan. We are Proud Bangladesh.”Recommend

  • Ibad Jamal
    Mar 28, 2011 - 11:32PM

    To all my Pakistani brothers and sisters!

    I think in all fairness, its about time that our Government should Officially say Sorry and apologize to our Bangladeshi brothers and sisters for a high-handed conducted in fromer East Pakistan by our forces in 1970-71. This is a civilized way of handling our past embarrassments and moving forward as a Nation so that nobody in our future Governments dares to repeat the same in future.

    As an individual I would like to say SORRY to my Bangladeshi brothers and sisters through this forum !Recommend

  • Meerza
    Mar 28, 2011 - 11:51PM

    After going thru the comments (which initially were largely positive towards Pak, but i guess after the article has been shared on facebook, alot of Bangladeshis have come forward to make their hate for Pakistan so obvious), I guess its good to know the truth, that they dont like us Pakistanis. The article I think didnt really portray a true picture about Pak-Bangladesh love/hate for each other. Or maybe a stadium support in general doesnt portray a true picture.

    Now that we should be satisfied that we are hated by these Bangladeshis, lets focus solely on our own country for good. We definitely are a nation that have tremendous potential to grow and progress. Let them all spew venom at the time when we are in difficulty. Things will definitely get better and we will progress. All the nations in the world have experienced bad times in some way or the other. Dont give a damn about these haters. We will rise!!Recommend

  • Mar 28, 2011 - 11:52PM

    Nice article. I would like unfold the mystery of the ‘anthem’ boy. The first verse of pakistani anthem is mentioned in many of our novels on liberation war and pakistan period. As a result most of the Bangladeshis know the first verse “pak sar jamin saad bad”. Many of our elders had to sing it at school. So knowing pakistani anthem is not a big deal. Well i guess most of pakistanis know indian anthem too( as a side effect of indian satellite channels )

    Our people are over-enthusiastic. If anyone visit Bangladesh during football world cup, he will hardly find a roof without any flag( mostly Brasil Argentina ). Many years ago they brought out procession for Maradona, when he was sick!! Pakistan team had wakar- wasim-anwar-shoaib. Man, they are legends. Moreover, naturally muslims have soft corner for other muslims. So, most of the Bangladeshis support pakistan after our own team.

    The new generation of Bangladesh believes in the uniqueness of our nation from pakistan and india. We have not forgotten 71. What pakistan army did here is unforgivable. Truth is bitter. However I cannot blame all Pakistanis for what a portion did. Hating each other will not give us anything good. With love and peace world will be a better place to live. Well wishes to Pakistanis.Recommend

  • Meerza
    Mar 28, 2011 - 11:59PM

    Plus…

    Someone early wrote that Pakistanis are secretly content with the fact that Bangladesh got separated from us. That is actually so true. You are so different. You were never really a part of us! Hope we had realized that in 1947, and had not lost so many of our dear soldiers.

    Believe me i still know mothers who are even today, not sure about where their sons (the soldiers) are, dead or alive? you think its only you who has bitter memories. Looking at these mothers, one can only wish we had recognized those huge differences between us way back in 47.

    Anyway… Lets move on for our own good!Recommend

  • Md. Nazmus Sakib
    Mar 29, 2011 - 12:19AM

    We Bangladeshis will not ever forgive and forget what Pakistan did to us in 1971 and before that. We hate the name east Pakistan. The truth is Pakistan or India wont ever be our true friend.And honestly , both these countries have done us more harm than good.

    I thank Allah every day that we are not a part of pakistan any more. The amount of violence that is going on there makes me sad

    @A Neutral

    You are a classic example of what West Pakistanis used to think of Bangladesh. They used to think writing in Arabic alphabet and speaking in Urdu , for some weird reason makes you more Muslim. The lack of respect you showed portrays the pakistan of the old perfectly.

    Pakistani Muslim army has killed more muslims than any other country in the world. They didnt remember their religion when they were raping their ‘muslims sisters’ here in our land.

    Bangladesh is a country where people of all religions live peacefully. It has been the case since 16th century. Unlike India and Pakistan. We don’t judge a person by religion. We judge them as a human being.

    Culturally , linguistically we are way way different to Pakistan. And politically, Pakistan should never expect any favours from us.

    And now to cricket and the support :

    We madly love our cricket . We are passionate and also appreciative of good cricket. As subcontinental teams, Pakistan and India get huge huge support here. and trust me the percentage is 50 50. This support is purely from cricketing perspective only. Dont read any thing more here.

    I am a huge Pakistan cricket team supporter. But that does not mean, I have forgotten what happened in 1971; not for a single moment. I enjoy watching Pakistan play, I want them to do well . My support is limited to cricket only.

    I am proud to be a Bangladeshi . In this great month of Independence, I pay my heart felt respect to the 30 million martyrs of 1971 who were brutally killed by the most Barbarious and the most Coward military force of the world.

    AMAR SONAR BANGLA AMI TOMAY BHALOBASHI.Recommend

  • Omar Faruk
    Mar 29, 2011 - 6:30AM

    Yes a am bangladeshi and i love pakistan as a Muslim Broherhood.Whatever India trying to break relation between two countray in any Issu.Recommend

  • hasan
    Mar 29, 2011 - 7:12AM

    Only bihari and Razakar are supporting Pkistani in Bangladesh. We are proudly Bnagalis awalys hate paki from our heart and soul.Recommend

  • Arif
    Mar 29, 2011 - 8:40AM

    One would think that given how unfair
    West Pakistan was to East Pakistan,
    they would still harbour negative
    feelings towards usfeelings towards us

    It seems India has also succeeded on instilling the same propaganda into the supposedly educated young Pakistani! In Bangladesh they still teach students about the manufactured figures of 3million killed and 7lac raped just to maintain the same propaganda message.

    Please do not fall into the same trap and study the history.

    Behind the Myth of 3 million

    The Wastes of Time: Reflections on the Decline and Fall of East PakistanRecommend

  • uzzal
    Mar 29, 2011 - 9:49AM

    Lots of Bangladeshies love pakistan cricket for some weird reason but that does not mean that we love pakistan, the brutalities shown by pakistan army cannot be expressed in words and you are saying that you are getting misconception about war from Indian media, well if you think so then dig deeper and you will see what actually happened in 1971…what kind of heinous crime the then pakistani army committed.

    well you may say that past is past but after all the brutalities shown by you cant you just feel apologetic and at least say sorry ..whats bothering me right now is after the huge support shown by Bangladeshies your captain didn’t even feel to thank them…shame!!!!! check this out
    http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=179504Recommend

  • uzzal
    Mar 29, 2011 - 11:15AM

    @Ibad Jamal:
    thank you brotherRecommend

  • shameem
    Mar 29, 2011 - 11:50AM

    We,Bangladeshi people always support Pakistan Cricket team- we like the way pakistan team plays.It has nothing to do with the past politics.Maybe, some people support Pakistn team because it is a muslim team.Politically, Bangladeshi people are far matured and economically no longer a subsistance economy as some Pakistani believe.It would be difficult for a Pakistani to understand our language ,culture etc. Nontheles, Good Luck, Afridi! Good Luck, Pakistan!Recommend

  • Mohammad Mamun
    Mar 29, 2011 - 12:16PM

    I am a Bangladeshi, and i love pakistani crecket team, and this time i expect world cup will be for pakistan. for our supporting we got many thanks from pakistani people. We appreciate to their thanks, but one thing we want to remember to you taht we are not of part of pakistan we are an individual nation and we have individual country. And our nation expect from you apologize for 1971. but still we did not get it. If one day our nation patience will break about that so our love will be converted by hate. because we are human.Recommend

  • Mahmud
    Mar 29, 2011 - 1:07PM

    @IluvU: and so r u my friend………a typical 70’s generation “West Pakistani”…….spewing venom to the then East Pakistanis!!!!…………

    Please look into the articles of Umair Khan & Majeed…….they have been so conscious regarding what happened in 1971 and which is still left unaddressed by the Pakistan government in any acceptable formal way……….thanks to the human rights workers, journalists and the youth of Pakistan for their countless reminder to the political leaders for a long due apology……

    c’mon, this is the call of time…….wake up dear……..we, the post ’71 generation are aware of the facts and deserve justice to our belief…….no more divisive acts or words…we had enough in the course of time……….

    may be u r right mentioning a Bangladeshi spewing venom to a Pakistani in ur community……..but to a Punjabi from India!!!!!…….don’t believe that to be a mass reaction…the guy might have had some personal bitter experience with any Punjabi…..

    we are known as a very hospitable nation worldwide…….very soft-spoken too…….please don’t categorize us that way, u hv been trying in ur mail, my friend……

    let’s unite for our common issues and please start with an apology first…….everything will be fine Insha Allah……….

    @Majeed: thanx for ur informative write up and a small correction…

    Rabindranath Tagore was the first Nobel Winner in 1912 amongst the Indian Sub-continent….means he represented Indian, Bangladeshi as well as our Pakistani fore fathers at that point of time…..:-))…….we all were one before 1947, don’t forget…..cheers!!!!Recommend

  • Mar 29, 2011 - 3:54PM

    Dear Sir

    As much as your article is inspiring to a Pakistani, this is far from the truth. Bangladeshis, in cricket have always supported either India or Pakistan before 1999. After 1999, BOTH India and Pakistan moved to number 2.

    If you witnessed the India Pakistan match held in Dhaka back in 2008 (I was at the Shere Bangla Stadium), you would’ve seen equal numbers of blue and green, all cheering their favorite side, and jeering the other.

    This comes from a passion for the sport, and love for good cricket, NOT because we were part of Pakistan. Trust me, try hoisting a Pakistan flag on Bangladeshi soil any day of the week – you’ll be stoned.

    With love,
    An ardent fan of Afridi’s team
    A proud BangladeshiRecommend

  • Amir
    Mar 29, 2011 - 4:11PM

    @A Neutral:
    I have worked with lots of Bangalis people. I agree with ‘A Neutral’Recommend

  • Bengali
    Mar 29, 2011 - 5:51PM

    @A Neutral
    On what basis do u say all that? Which Bengali told you we think Pakistanis are worse than Nazis???? And your last statement is baseless! Do some research about the 1971 war and you will find every reason for Bengalis to hate what Pakistani army did back then. Our parents have suffered and we know the stories of their hardships by heart. A stadium full of 25000 people was no illusion. We do not bring history into cricket, and we do not hate the present Pakistani generation for what their ancestors have done. Its punishment enough that many people judge an entire nation for their past deeds. The stadium support was genuine, and the BD people are big fans of the Pakistani team. Hats off to the writer for an article like this. If we show love and respect for Pakistan only then we will gain respect from them too.Recommend

  • Nwaq
    Mar 29, 2011 - 6:22PM

    Very emotional piece.Thx for yr support dear Bangladeshis,we love you too.Recommend

  • Mahfuz
    Mar 29, 2011 - 10:09PM

    Wow you what people i was reading comments and its like never ending. At one side I see the love for both the country and at another side I see hatred, but like always a coin has two sides. I don’t expect all Pakistani’s to love us, and neither all Bangladeshi will love you people. There is always a section of people who would spread hatred in the wind, but it is love that again give the birth of lost/new friendships, a new way of seeing this. To all Pakistani people yes it is true most of the Bangladeshi (including me) loves your cricket team and also you people. We cherish when your cricket team win and became sad when they lose, otherwise why would draw your flags on our face??? But it is also true the history that we share can not be denied, and that story still haunts many people. When you get to know during the war what happened to your families it really become a scar, although killing and rape is a part of war but we were same people and this history can never be erased from books or minds. But i believe most of us have managed to heal this feeling and extend our hands and heart from friendship and love, and we hope that one day we will be able to write new histories about these two countries, that will make not only us but also other countries praises us. And I thank from my heart to the writer of this article. May Allah bless us allRecommend

  • Rummon
    Mar 29, 2011 - 10:52PM

    Someone has commented about Bangladeshi “they are muslim when convenient and hindu alll the time”. How you be a muslim Bro?? you have killed 3 million people in 1971, Raped almost half million women.Those are the sign of being Muslim?? I am not an anti Pakistani. I have just asked you a question. According to my belief to Allah…i dont think i am less Muslim than a Pakistani.Recommend

  • Rummon
    Mar 29, 2011 - 11:06PM

    @Mushfiq Us Salehin:
    yap..you r ryt bro. I cant understand why most of the Pakistani people think they r better Muslim than Us?? Recommend

  • Amitabh Dewry
    Mar 30, 2011 - 1:38AM

    “We know the words, this was once our anthem too.”

    Yup……Still now some Nazi supporter at Germany. And they keep tears for Hitler.

    And the comments of a so called Neutral is interesting –
    BD at core is a confused nation. they are muslim when convenient and hindu alll the time.
    After 40 years the thinking is same what was thought by their forefather gen tikka khan (BUTCHER of BELUCHISTAN) before committing genocide against the people of BANGLADESH.
    No change over last 40 years. The people of BD are not taliban….. not fundamentalist like pakistani, thats why they r hindu… wow ! what a joke !Recommend

  • Sujan
    Mar 30, 2011 - 2:21AM

    Thanks to Saleha Riaz for her beautiful article. I am glad to know that, she had a good experience here in Bangladesh. But she misinterpreted some facts about Bangladesh and her people. Let me clarify those facts.

    Bangladesh has started playing top level cricket very recently, some ten years ago. Before then Bangladeshi cricket lovers supported two of their most neighbouring country Pakistan and India. As a consequence, most of us still support Pakistan or India as our second favourite team after Bangladesh. There are no political reasons behind this.
    The number of Pakistani and Indian supporters are somewhat equal in Bangladesh. You will see the same enthusiasm when India plays in Bangladesh. That doesn’t mean, we feel ourselves as Indian or Pakistani.
    Most of the Bangladeshis support Barzil and Argentina in football. The whole country is covered by Barzilian and Argentine flag during the world cup football. Then, should anyone say, we feel ourselves as a part of Brazil or Argentina?
    The boy she wrote about saying “We know the words, this was once our anthem too”, may be a stranded Pakistani (Bihari) who could not make their way to home after the liberation war. They still think they are Pakistani, but they are enjoying all the civil rights in Bangladesh as other Bangladeshis do. And for her kind information, a large number of Biharis live in Mirpur at a stone throwing distance from Sher-e-Bangla stadium, therefore, no wonder if she sees one of them.

    Actually we never sang the anthem ‘Pak sar zamin sad bad’. When Bangladesh was East Pakistan (we said East Bengal in that time), we sang ‘Purobo bangla shamolima, poncho nodir tire orunima’ – a Bengali version of ‘Pak sar zamin sad bad’, as our anthem.

    Don’t think, we don’t have respect for Pakistan, her people and her anthem. We like Pakistan and her people but love Bangladesh.

    Only a few thousand people in Bangladesh who are basically extremist Muslim or Hindu think, it would be better if Bangladesh were a part of Pakistan or India.

    Another thing, never mention Bangladeshis as ‘our Muslim brothers’. We have Hindus (nearly 20 million), Buddhists and Christians here. If you consider us as your brother, you should not consider only Muslims, but also Hindus, Christians and Buddhist. Bangladeshis like to be introduced as ‘Bangali’ rather than Muslims or Hindus. We are Muslim or Hindu as person but Bangali as a nation.

    Me too, support Pakistan in today’s semifinal against India. I also have sympathy for Pakistan as they were not allowed to co-host world cup. But, there is always a difference between Bangladesh and Pakistan, and will be.

    Love for Pakistani people. May peace be upon Pakistan. Best of luck. :)Recommend

  • OA
    Mar 30, 2011 - 3:56AM

    Part of the problem is that Pakistani’s like myself like to see things/events through their own lens only. I see several people have become gushy over “….they were once part of us….”

    I believe it’s more suitable, sensible as well as respectful to recognize that we were just as much a part of them as they were of us.

    Time to learn or blame it on someone else?Recommend

  • hassan
    Mar 30, 2011 - 7:46AM

    these people are bunch of idiots… IT DOESN’T SAY ANYWHERE IN ISLAM THAT, WE SHOULD NOT SEE NON-MUSLIMS EQUALITY!!!!
    Instated of blaming other countries and religion, why don’t you guys try to develop your country. do you guys know why ICC world cup didn’t took place in Pakistan??
    clean your dirt b4 coming to a judgement about other countries and religion. Recommend

  • KhepaBaul
    Mar 30, 2011 - 10:50AM

    I have lived in Dhaka for 21 years of my life and am yet to meet anyone, young or old, who knows the Pakistani anthem. The writer, if she really did meet such a person, by God its a miracle! After Bangladesh, I support the Pakistani team whole heartedly because they were (Wasim squad) an extremely capable cricketing nation, and I believe still are. And while Bangladeshis are very emotional about their past and disapproving of the atrocities the Pakistani military carried out, we still share a lot of ethnic, religious, and cultural ground with other SAARC countries. People say things like: lets keep the cup within the sub-continent.

    On another note, there are Anti-Indian sentiments in a lot of Bangladeshis because of their openly unfair use and misuse of our border and our highways and waterways. With all that said, I am not sure if your rationale regarding Bangladeshi fan support of the Pakistan team is fully correct.

    We all romanticize with what each of our history books say. But please live in the present and try to be politically correct. Go Pakistan, Go Bangladesh. Go Cricket.Recommend

  • Deep
    Mar 30, 2011 - 11:42AM

    @Wake up:
    What you guys saw in the field was our open-heartedness. It was in no-way a sign of us wanting to come back. We are proud bangladeshi and we will never forget the genocide your army did on our soil in 1971 and still your government does not apologize for it. We do have some boneless idiotic fans whose over enthusiasm hinders the atrocities from Pakistan and sometimes we tend to forget the past. Bangladesh is Bangladesh and we are NOT East Pak. Recommend

  • madiha khan
    Mar 30, 2011 - 6:23PM

    .the writer shudnt have written abt not xpecting the support she should have been more than happy for getting dat kind of support for their team.also the wave part…was just a way of the crowd having fun at the match nothing to do wid who was playing.and she missd that every 10 mins or so the crowd wud be cheering BANGLADESH BANGLADESG.i mean we wernt even playing but thats jus our way of having fun!-_-Recommend

  • Bangladeshi
    Mar 30, 2011 - 11:17PM

    How sould you right such a thing?? The only reason we supported Pakistan was because we hate West Indies! We will never forgive you for what you have donee you never even apologized to us!! How could you even dare to say we are a ‘part’ of you!!!!! Recommend

  • joke of the year
    Mar 31, 2011 - 3:29AM

    what a joke in the last part… who told you?? didnt you take his number and visit to his home… and have some food with him… after all he found u guys after a long long time….Recommend

  • ILLUSHA
    Mar 31, 2011 - 10:48AM

    To ‘A Neutral’

    BD is NOT a confused nation, to start with. And since when does Pakistan have the authority on deciding how to become a ‘good’/ ‘full time’ muslim? We all can see what all the fanaticism on religion has done to Pakistan! This should’ve been an eye opener for you.

    If you meant to say that BD is not a hard core ‘muslim’ country (whatever that means), you are maybe correct. We here believe that the indentiy of a nation should also also involve the culture, origin and history of its inhabitants. Religion should not be the only factor to identify a nation. So,as Muslim as we are, we are also proud Bangalees!

    Yes, we do welcome people from other religions/culture to be very much a part of this nation(very unlike Pakistan, and maybe thats the reason why you call us a confused nation!).And we ARE very proud to be able to do that! Thank GOD for the Liberation WAR !(which is NOT by the way, an Indian Propaganda!)Recommend

  • Indian
    Mar 31, 2011 - 5:49PM

    Well from many of the comments here it is clear that there isn’t much change in Pakistan, since you try to endear yourselves to “muslim”Bangladesh but blame allegedly “Hindu” India. This shows that you truly don’t believe in the secular ideals. Pakistan would happily repeat what they did in Bangladesh on the Hindus in India given half a chance. So much for the reformed Pakistan who is apologetic for what they did in Bangladesh.Recommend

  • Bharat
    Apr 1, 2011 - 2:57PM

    Hi,

    This is exactly what happens when you have SELF PITY. Why you Pakistanis blame every thing in India and have self pity.

    Agree for once what is right. You have confused your own history by glorifying religion and molded it the way you wanted it. You can not run away from your past.

    East Pakistan and West Pakistan were divided because of your own deeds. Looking in to the history and authentic documents and you want have to write these sorry statements about India misleading youth.

    Pakistan is a state built on religion. Jinna and Nehru divided the country for their own ambition. Here we are today still fighting battles over UNFINISHED DIVIDE INDIA AGENDA.

    Come on the youth has changed. Look at the world from different angle. We are two sides of same coin. Believe me if Pakistan keeps away from India we have no intention and time to look at what you are up to.Recommend

  • Shuchis
    Apr 1, 2011 - 9:47PM

    the only reason we supported Pakistan is because it is a good team. How could you even think that we would EVER want to be a part of you again! Have you never studied history! Pakistan never even apologized to us for the HORRIBLE things they did! And Afridi only thanked the Pakistani supporters! We will never forget what you did to us! Either you have no brain or you just have no idea about history! We are willing to be friendly towards Pakistanis just like we are to all other nations but that does not mean we want to reunite with Pakistan!! Recommend

  • DIG
    Apr 2, 2011 - 4:53PM

    Very true! Global Bangladeshi commented “the present Government i.e. of Sheikh Haseena Wajid has put all the hate through propaganda and rewritten history”. Sheikh Haseena must be knowing well who killed her father? Not a Pakistani for sure, but a local!!
    PAK ARMY DID NOT RAPED ANY BANGALI WOMAN!!
    IF AT ALL THIS HAPPENED IT WOULD HAVE “SURELY” DONE BY Indians or their supporters TO PUT BLAME ON PAK ARMY!!
    As for casualties during retreat are unavoidable especially when you can’t differentiate between enemy and freinds!
    Pakistan as a nation did the best they could prior to 1971 except the political decision of PPP. ALLAH R.I. knows best!Recommend

  • An Elder Pakistani
    Apr 2, 2011 - 5:47PM

    May all Pakistani know or ask an retired Soldier of Pak Army as is also confirmed by a senior BD (Globalised Bangladeshi) that whenever Sheikh Haseena’s government is in power they beef up efforts by rewriting history and highlighting anti Pakistani sentiments. Sheikh Haseena Wajid who is the daughter of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman who had the majority for making government but was denied his due by PPP leaders. As for PAK ARMY, IT DID NOT PLAYED ANY PART IN CRIME AGAINST EVEN A SINGLE BD WOMAN!!!
    Casualties while retreat (though figures here are xtremely unreal) as freind or foe cannot be distinguished. Kill or get killed. Recommend

  • Montasir
    Apr 3, 2011 - 11:43AM

    I don’t support neither India nor Pakistan’s cricket. I am no place to judge them both. But in political view Pakistan’s warlord are animals. Even their cricketers are dishonest. How could even a person could support their players that I don’t understand. Those who supports Pakistan’s cricket by any means they are in love with their Rapist. Don’t you have a guts Bangladeshi? Recommend

  • Apr 3, 2011 - 3:16PM

    I got tears in my eyes when I read the last sentence of this post…:'(Recommend

  • Mehvish
    Apr 4, 2011 - 3:04AM

    It’s high time that pakistanis started addressing people from Bangladesh as Bangladeshis and not ‘bangalis’. They fought very hard for their freedom and deserve at least this much from us. Recommend

  • Anam
    Apr 4, 2011 - 1:05PM

    Very moving piece :)Recommend

  • Shuvro
    Apr 5, 2011 - 2:16AM

    @Meerza: Surely Pakistan will rise. To international terrorism and self destruction. The day is not far when US will stab ur back and u’ll need Bangladesh/India aid to recover from paralysis. Heavens forbid!! Either way I wish all luck to your extremists or so called Jehadis. Down with Pakis, Long Live BD and Bengali Language…Recommend

  • Shuvro
    Apr 5, 2011 - 2:20AM

    @amna tariq shah: Crocodile tears!!! U shud’ve got tears when u read the fact that ur ancestors committed genocides and rapes. I’m sure ur govt manipulates all the history. Better watch the videos on youtube and get convinced.. Seeing is Believing. And next time try to cry for better reasons.Recommend

  • Apr 5, 2011 - 12:37PM

    @Shuvro:
    No crocodile tears! We are emotional people, we find it difficult to fight back our tears at such occasions. Surprisingly enough our text books give a very true picture of what the then politicians did to our Bangladeshi brothers. It tells us clearly how all the wealth coming from the then East Pakistan flowed down to the West wing; all that happened in Ayub’s era; the search operation; language controversy; issue of the capital city; unjust representation of Bengali in the assembly and so on. So, we really don’t need to go to utube to understand the reality.

    What I don’t understand is one thing! Whatever the politicians did to our Bangladeshi brothers in the past, why do we have to suffer the hatred of Bangladeshis at present :(. Those leaders/politicians were as mean to us as they were to you. They created such circumstances that led to the division of our country into two pieces. We suffered the loss as much as you did. If they were your enemies, they were also our enemies. And the trend continues.

    But, I certainly understand the anger found in Bangladeshis…after all, it’s natural to hate the entire nation after all that happened. We respect the sovereignty of Bangladesh and we are always happy to hear any good news coming down from there. Not under any circumstances would we want you to join us back, but we just regret for what happened in the past. We share a history, we struggled together to get rid of the British and the Hindu raj. Although, the era from 1947-1971 is marked by bitterness and ugliness, but we (Pakistanis) just want to have good relations with our Bangladeshi brothers and this is all what the article is about. Recommend

  • Ananya
    Apr 8, 2011 - 1:49AM

    “@Akbar:
    What a great thought. We should ask Bangladesh to join us again. I am sure they will agree. Those Indians are such liars.”

    @rg you have a great sense of humour….LOL…..

    to the author Saleha Riaz:
    the OLD boy that u speak of is rather alarming to me…maybe he is some Shakespearian apparition that is speaking from the depths of betrayal….the spirit of the rajakars perhaps…
    but it’s sad that subcontinental cricket cant do away with undercurrents of political/religious issues….it’s hard for a Bangladeshi patriot who has lost family during the war to ignore the atrocities of 1952 and 1971…but a rational Bangladeshi shouldn’t have much reservations for supporting pakistan for whatever sport……but it’s the irrational ones who support pakistan only cos they have rajakar descendants or simply cos they follow islam, is what bothers me…..and I would say you should re-think on the last line u wrote, although it brought tears to emotional eyes…..whether u wrote it responsibly……it could hurt some sentiments you know….

    question: can a degree from some ivy league institution really bring about a paradigm shift in a person? or, should we even expect an institution to make it happen so???

    (probably not….probably not…)Recommend

  • Ananya
    Apr 8, 2011 - 2:01AM

    @ HASSAN REZA SAEED and @ i m bangladeshi:

    pls note that rg wrote
    “@Akbar:
    What a great thought. We should ask Bangladesh to join us again. I am sure they will agree. Those Indians are such liars.”
    in good humour….rather sarcastically…. so please spare him/her…. :) if u think from the tone and language used by the commentator i mean…..written words often lack in meaning…..Recommend

  • Ananya
    Apr 8, 2011 - 2:09AM

    @ An Elder Pakistani

    you said pakistan army did not do any crime against a single bd woman…….wow, u r a genius, u remind me of President Nixon….long live Pakistan :PRecommend

  • Apr 8, 2011 - 3:18PM

    We Are Not Bangladeshi Nor Pakistan WE ARE FIRST AND LAST MUSLIM , just Have to Realize This The All Issues And Hatred Will Be Resolved INSHALLAH.Recommend

  • Shuvro
    Apr 9, 2011 - 11:09PM

    @Muslim: Be a good human being first and then a muslim. We should not love Pakistanis because they were muslims (tht wot makes half the bangladesh blinded) but because they have good ppl as well. We should hate their govt. and the wrong people for the atrocities they committed on us. Being muslim brothers should not change tht feeling. If u want to love Pakistanis, love their good people who do not represent the Inhuman lot.Recommend

  • Muslim
    Apr 10, 2011 - 9:32AM

    @Shuvro. A Human Cant Be Good Or Bad . His Activities Makes Him Good Or Bad . We Are Islam ,Obliged Not To Hate The Human {Good/Bad}. Infact We Are Obliged To Hate That Bad Quality . Am i Clear Now ??Recommend

  • rk azimudding
    Apr 11, 2011 - 1:23AM

    @Arijit Sharma: “If Bangladesh gets a handle on its population and is able to rein in Islamism, I see why it can not become another Malaysia in South Asia.
    Curious, that you mention “karma” – is there a concept of Karma in Islam or is it a Hindu import”
    — anjit sharma. i think u made a small mistake in your english there. i think it should go like- “if Bangladesh gets a handle on its population and is able to rein in Islamism, I cannot see why it CANNOT become another Malaysia in South Asia.” u missed one CANNOT there its happens to most indians who studied in INDIAN english schools. :)
    and as for karma- it makes you more foolish to say that. you should heard about the golden rule- So, As You Do Unto Others, So Shall You Be Done Unto you! :DRecommend

  • Shuvro
    May 6, 2011 - 6:47PM

    @Muslim: It’s the way you grow up that makes u good or bad. It’s the way ur taught the way of life that makes u gud or bad. It’s the way u analyze and interpret things that make u gud or bad. If muslims are obliged not to hate humans, then why are terrorists killing their muslim brothers in Pakistan? In minority states, u shout secularism and in majority, u suppress other religions and make things insecular. Is this what Islam teaches their followers? Religion is meant to teach u the way of life but you inject religion into politics and state governance. Tell me how many countries in the world can be called successful just by keeping religion is in the forefront of their agenda (Oil rich spoilt Arabs aside who are experiencing temporary success and exceptions like Dubai who have had to break the rules of Islam to attract investors from all over the world). Invest more time in work and less time in religion. U can’t spend all ur time in religion and expect to develop a country.Recommend

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