Davis safe from prosecution: Wahab

Published: February 15, 2011
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The PPP spokeswoman said the government has to handle the case with care.

The PPP spokeswoman said the government has to handle the case with care.

KARACHI: 

Raymond Davis, who is accused of killing two Pakistani citizens in Lahore, is covered by immunity and cannot be kept in confinement, Information Secretary of the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) Fauzia Wahab said on Monday.

Talking to media persons during her visit to the Karachi Press Club, she said: “Not just diplomats, but technical staff of consulates also enjoy immunity under the Vienna Convention.”

Wahab reminded reporters of the precarious situation developing after the incident and the chill in relations between Pakistan and the United States and said that the former could not afford any further trouble. She said that the government was handling the matter very carefully.

Wahab said that the US was the largest market for Pakistani products, adding that the country earned more than $4 billion annually from trade with it. “More than a million Pakistanis are living in US, send remittances, which supports our economy. But unfortunately, we are talking against the (same) country and its people without any logic. We should respect and abide by national and international laws,” she said.

Referring to various clauses of Pakistan’s Constitution, she said that the Pakistan Law Digest  “contains (several) judgments of the Supreme Court and high courts also provide diplomats immunity under articles 29 and 37 clause-A”. She also refuted reports that David did not possess a diplomatic visa. “The case is now in courts. Let our independent judiciary decide on it,” she said. Commenting on Shah Mehmood Qureshi’s recent statements, PPP spokesperson said he had violated party discipline and the portfolio of foreign ministry would soon be given to some other party leader.  “Qureshi should abide by party policy and stop making allegations.”

Meanwhile, terming Fauzia Wahab’s statement “personal”, the president’s spokesperson, Farhatullah Babar said: “The party’s position on the issue is unambiguous. The issue is before the court. It is imprudent to comment on it before court’s verdict.” He said that Wahab’s statement was neither party policy nor government policy. “She herself has clarified that it is her personal opinion,” he added.

Munter meets Salman Bashir

US Ambassador to Pakistan Cameron Munter met Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir on Monday and repeated the demand for the release of Raymond Davis. According to a TV channel, Munter said Davis enjoyed full diplomatic immunity and hence he should be freed.

Sources said that Foreign Secretary Bashir insisted that it was a sub judice matter, and the judicial procedure should be respected.

He clarified that only the court will decide about Davis. Meanwhile the US Embassy spokesperson has expressed the hope that the Davis issue will be solved soon.

Published in The Express Tribune, February 15th, 2011.

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Reader Comments (114)

  • Nasir
    Feb 14, 2011 - 6:42PM

    Govt started mentally preparing the public before releasing the killer.Recommend

  • Ali
    Feb 14, 2011 - 6:46PM

    Good, they are slowly but surely building his path to freedom. Great example to set for the rule of law in a country where most of the population is illiterate.Recommend

  • Blithe
    Feb 14, 2011 - 6:53PM

    Sh will sell Pakistan downthe river at the first chance — and that is what she seems to be doing. Depressing to have such people in our country!
    She is not qualified to make such satements to begin with.

    Trechnical staff do not fall in diplomatic rank.
    In a standrad embassy only the Ambassador and two or three other officer hold diplomatic immunity. It does NOT apply to a consultant working in a counsulate. Recommend

  • Abdul-Mughis Rana
    Feb 14, 2011 - 6:59PM

    Today its someone else relatives, tomorrow it may be careful government’s self! No wonder why they traded Dr. Aafia Siddiqi. It seems PPP government needs Egypt’s like movement here.Recommend

  • imkarachi
    Feb 14, 2011 - 6:59PM

    Sold GovernmentRecommend

  • Babar
    Feb 14, 2011 - 7:04PM

    Pakistan should give Raymond in exchange for closure of US embassies and they can also keep their aid dollars. Nothing should matters more than sovereignity and self respect. Recommend

  • Kamil Bangash
    Feb 14, 2011 - 7:18PM

    She is absolutely right. The ruling military-civilian kleptocracy has sucked the people of Pakistan dry over a period of 60 years. How can it be expected to survive without US aid with the country lying in ruins now?! All political parties and the military elite agree that the murderer should be handed over to the US if this resolves their problem. What can be the worth of three murdered people in a country where thousands have already been killed in the war of terror? The only thing cheap in Pakistan is human life and we can get rid of many millions without making a dent in our population figures. So, hurry up and hand him over. Just get rid of the few minor irritants Recommend

  • Tahir
    Feb 14, 2011 - 7:18PM

    This just shows how much our politicians are controlled by the US.Recommend

  • Robin
    Feb 14, 2011 - 7:19PM

    Thanks Fauzia Wahab. Now release Raymond Davis ASAP.Recommend

  • syed kashif Hassnain rizvi
    Feb 14, 2011 - 7:20PM

    they cannt put him in jail cause USA could do what ever they like they can make Pakistans situaion like afghanistan or iraq…
    on the spot if davis is killed by shooting then it will not make this situation…Recommend

  • Uzair Javaid
    Feb 14, 2011 - 7:23PM

    Government at TREASON now. Creating a public opinion and mindset that the killer was actually a saint and needs to be free. What a shame, this pathetically pathetic apologetic government would set free the killer with a word of sorry for him.
    SHAME.ON.YOU. – PPP –Recommend

  • Aamir
    Feb 14, 2011 - 7:25PM

    Their main aim is to get Davis out of jail so they can start getting more aid money from US to fill their personal coffers and avoid the freezing of their personal bank accounts in foreign countries.

    I feel pity about the families of deceased young men, please do not expect any justice because puppets do not care. Recommend

  • Muhammad Wajid
    Feb 14, 2011 - 7:26PM

    Now drone attacks should be stopped and let the diplomats start the holy immune job,Recommend

  • Mohsin
    Feb 14, 2011 - 7:27PM

    Oh well I thought the courts were going to decide
    Seems the pak nation has sold our for dollars
    Once again……kabhi khuda par bhi yakeen Raka KaroRecommend

  • Feb 14, 2011 - 7:34PM

    Kamil Bangash:

    The country is lying in ruins because the PPP led government refuses to enact tax and economic reforms, has recruited tens of thousands of incompetent Jiyala’s into the IB and other State institutions, with back pay,and benefits covering several years, costing the taxpayers billions.

    Our major State Owned Enterprises cost the country $3 billion in losses every year – double the amount of the KLL aid funds. Pakistan can survive very easily without aid from the US and IFI’s – what is needed is the will to govern properly and enact reforms, which is apparently too hard for the PPP government and therefore it would prefer to sell out Pakistan’s interests instead for aid.

    Don’t blame the military for this – the current economic mismanagement and inept governance is entirely the fault of the PPP led coalition. Were the PPP at least attempting to rectify things and enact reforms and offer good governance, your point might have had some validity.Recommend

  • gupshup
    Feb 14, 2011 - 7:36PM

    Its all over for this govt,, pakistani nation, would you surrender in this way,,come and stand out for your own soveriengnity and immunity,,govt has nothing to do for you,,the have been sold out for dollars,,if our nation did not stand to change the situation now and remove and kik out all these bloody politicians, then i would say we peopele deserve to face such harsh and coward statmensts and acts, anyone can come to kill a pakistani person,,any on can send drone and missile doest not matter untill these bloody politicians are gettting money.Recommend

  • Dr Pakhtun
    Feb 14, 2011 - 7:37PM

    So the countdown to Raymond’s release has started.Nice precedents being set by the PP government for the rule of law in the country

    Let me quote from an informative piece by Najmuddin Shaik, former Secretary Foreign Affairs, that was published in this paper, to make the at least some legal aspects of this case clear.

    “The Vienna Convention on Consular Relations of 1963, which came into effect in 1967, states in Article 41(1) that “Consular officers shall not be liable to arrest or detention pending trial, except in the case of a grave crime and pursuant to a decision by the competent judicial authority.” This would mean that no immunity from arrest would be available even to the head of the Consular post, or any officer having consular rank, if the crime committed is grave.

    Najmuddin Shaikh then continues

    The point, however, is that the Vienna Convention is very clear about who is part of the “diplomatic staff”. Article 1 states that “the ‘members of the diplomatic staff’ are the members of the staff of the mission having diplomatic rank”. Nowhere has it been stated that Mr Davis had a diplomatic rank, nor is it usual for “members of the technical and administrative staff” to be granted such diplomatic rank.

    It is, however, correct to say that the administrative and technical staff also enjoy immunities under Article 37(2) of The Vienna Convention. The same facility is also accorded under Article 37(3) to service members sent from the sending state.
    Mr Davis could be termed a member of the technical and administrative staff or a member of the service staff, and be entitled to this extent of immunity while performing functions in the course of his duties

    The question, therefore, is whether Mr Davis was in Mozang Chowrangi in the ‘course of his duties’? The second question that clearly arises is: Who should determine this? And the answer would seem to be the courts of Pakistan.

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/115417/the-curious-case-of-raymond-davis/Recommend

  • Feb 14, 2011 - 7:40PM

    and wahab is no more a information minister.

    But now a days, to be ppp, You should suport davis :)Recommend

  • Kamil Bangash
    Feb 14, 2011 - 7:51PM

    Agnostic+Muslim

    I do not blame the military. I know facts for what they are and the miltiary is equally, if not more, responsible for all our miseries. It is not just the PPP that is to blame. Granted, they are sort of in power now. But our history did not start with the present PPP government, it started much before that. All our so-called politicians are the products of Pakistan’s military usurping power. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto (Ayub Khan’s ‘son’), Nawaz Sharif (Ziaul Haq’s ‘son’), to name only a couple. So please do not pretend that the military is the best thing that happened to Pakistan since its creation. We know better than that. Just a reminder to you, in case you have conveniently forgotten, is the fact that the NRO enabling Mr. Zardari to take over was promulgated by a military government. Recommend

  • Ch Imtiaz Ali
    Feb 14, 2011 - 7:53PM

    The problem is the most of talking heads will not step out for protest. They just talk and waste their own and other’s time either singing Zardari’s or NawaZ’s praises. My friends there is a Punjabi saying. Jinna Aappay Khaana Mang Kay Unna Magtay Maray Tung Kay. Do you really think these two parties can change anything, who have robed this country. One did it with kickbacks the other thru SROs. This system will keep producing same trash even if you hold 1000 elections. Thee answer: Give them 24 hrs to declare assets here and abroad. Give another 24 hrs to justify their lifestyle and its sources in open trials. Then use poles in Liberty market. Recommend

  • Ali Turk
    Feb 14, 2011 - 7:54PM

    What is her locus standi to give such a statement.She is not information Minister of the Govt.
    she should restrict herself to PPP issues.
    Please let the courts decide the issue.Recommend

  • Abrar Ahmed
    Feb 14, 2011 - 7:55PM

    Not a very long time back, does everyone remember what she said about Honorable CJ Iftikhar Chaudhry and other Honorable Judges of Judiciary, when govt was hesitant to restore them.Recommend

  • Feb 14, 2011 - 8:00PM

    PPP ex-Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi recently told Pakistani press-media: Raymond Allen Davis, an ex-US Army Special Forces soldier and US Defense/CIA Contractor, is a fake American diplomat. Pakistan Foreign Ministry or Embassy did NOT grant any diplomatic visa of Pakistan to Davis, because he is NOT a real US diplomat. Therefore, Davis has NO diplomatic immunity.

    Only the Lahore High Court (LHC) or the Supreme Court of Pakistan (SCP) has the constitutional right to decide and resolve the issue of diplomatic immunity.Recommend

  • shahid malik
    Feb 14, 2011 - 8:11PM

    Fouzia Wahab thinks that all the people living in Pakistan are stupid, if Raymond Davis was a diplomat or even technical assistant enjoying the diplomatic imunity, he would have been released the same day. It is clear to all of us that the ruling party dont even care to lie to 17 million people. She instead of caring for the international laws should also care about the constitution of Pakistan, which clearly gurantees the protection of life and property of a pakistan citizen. It is the responsibility of the state to protect the freedom and life of every single citizen. I wonder if this is the last mistake the PPP government is going to make before its too late for them to face the wrath of the people of pakistan. Its the last thing they want to do to make the people come out.Recommend

  • Khawaja Faraz
    Feb 14, 2011 - 8:11PM

    @Robin:
    we are here to safeguard our coutrys intrests if she or her party ever came in way there are going to be removed….Recommend

  • hani
    Feb 14, 2011 - 8:14PM

    now we issue licence to every foreigner to kill every pakistani……………………. Ghulam ka koi haq nai hota k woh apnay AQA k samany sir nai uthaein,,,……….Recommend

  • Feb 14, 2011 - 8:16PM

    Lahore High Court (LHC) should issue an arrest warrant for Fauzia Wahab, because she has intentionally committed the crimes of Obstruction of Justice, Contempt of Court and Perjury by illegally claiming, without any documentary proof, that US Defense Contractor and US CIA Consultant Raymond Allen Davis has diplomatic immunity.Recommend

  • M M
    Feb 14, 2011 - 8:19PM

    Plz release this guy as soon as possible.Recommend

  • Concerned_American
    Feb 14, 2011 - 8:19PM

    This is the right decision by the Pakistan government. If they want to prosecute Raymond, then they should ask the American government to revoke his diplomatic immunity status. To all the pakistani friends who want his head: any sane foreign diplomat would do the same in self defense if someone were to approach him/her with guns. Recommend

  • Rauf Khan
    Feb 14, 2011 - 8:22PM

    A killer is a killer. No law whether local or international, can excuse a killer. The accused should be tried under the law of the land. Simple as that. Come on Pakistan stand up for a change!, don’t let your people down yet again.Recommend

  • Amer
    Feb 14, 2011 - 8:30PM

    So, the count down for this govt to go has begun….. There will be a general election by the end of this year for sure! Recommend

  • Abbas Khan
    Feb 14, 2011 - 8:39PM

    Why the lives of two robbers killed by someone in self defence have become more important than future of 180 million people? If this someone had belonged to another country or a local folk, then same blood thirsty people would had made him a hero. Its a shame that crowd present at the scene confirmed two dead people were armed robbers, then with passage of time and pressure from police aided by American haters, they became innocent people and now they have become Shaheed. God forbid, if we become bankrupt, currency value is slashed hundred percent, exports to America are banned, turning millions more jobless, then these two robbers will become our greatest heroes, perhaps we will have their photos on our currency notes, (only to be used in toilets.) Recommend

  • kamaal
    Feb 14, 2011 - 8:43PM

    Where is “Gairat”?????What happened to “ghas bhi khaiyenge”…It seems Pakistani people has no selfrespect.These guys are good at talk only…Recommend

  • karachiite
    Feb 14, 2011 - 8:46PM

    Nice one Fauzia this will surely antagonize public, before your govt acts just remember 18 days before running Mubarak thought no one can touch him just a pointer tell your cronies to buy tickets for Saudi Arabia before making this decision (as US will surely not help you)Recommend

  • Swati
    Feb 14, 2011 - 8:46PM

    Every time she speeks..”phool jarthe hain”.I wish the lady could just SHUT UP.Recommend

  • Khalid Rahim
    Feb 14, 2011 - 8:47PM

    Now that Lady Godiva has spoken we must turn blind eye and deaf ear to the judiciary of our country. In fact the Emperor in his new clothes should have appointed her as Foreign Minister!
    Incidently selling the sovereignty of your country is not “Blasphemy” and therefore our bigoted political leaders would rather look for Ways & Means to save their Interest abroad. Lets see how strong these leaders outside the PPP arena are in case Raymond Davis is released in the
    next few days? Will they be able to create the same situation as in Cairo or stoop low to be patted.Recommend

  • imran
    Feb 14, 2011 - 8:47PM

    license to kill…. what type of crimes are exampted?Recommend

  • Pakistan One
    Feb 14, 2011 - 8:50PM

    Who gave her the authority to speak on state matters when she is just a party worker and not holding any cabinet portfolio. She is neither a parliamentarian nor an advisor. As a laywoman she would not have access to the files of diplomatic staff members kept at the foreign office. If you speak to her for 5 minutes you will realize that she is “fake it if you can’t make it” type.

    The Killer code named Raymond Davis does not hold a diplomatic passport, nor the diplomatic visa nor the diplomatic ID card isssued by Ministy of Foreign Affairs. It was this very attitude of the goverment that the widow of the victim Mohammed Faheem feared and committed suicide.

    From the limited information that has surface, one cannot rule out the policy that Raymond Davis is a hostile alien in Pakistan. Police recovered several mobile phones from him, obviously he is not a mobile phone dealer, but if you connect the dots you will notice that he has been to several madarassahs and he had made/received calls from the tribal areas where army is hunting the terrorists.

    It is interesting to note that in the last several years over 50 bombings were done using mobile phone as detonator. These bombings include religious gatherings, security installations, mosques, schools, markets.

    A serious blunder that PPP is about to commit. Dont let constitution avenue become Al Tahrir Square. Remember even the army can’t shoot 1 million people.Recommend

  • Ben
    Feb 14, 2011 - 8:57PM

    There are some very intriguing questions. The first is that why is the US ready to sacrifice its core values of respect for law for an intelligence operative, or lets say a diplomat, like Mr Davis. Equally intriguing is the question why is PPP ready to commit political suicide for this man. Read more at: link textRecommend

  • saad hafeez
    Feb 14, 2011 - 9:29PM

    well it’s all a bit too obvious what the government wants to do regarding this case. what she said about davis being a member of technical staff of the consulate therefore he has immunity, didnt the former foreign minister say davis’ name wasnt even mentioned in the list given to the foreign office before all this happened? so how can the govt now claim that he is indeed a diplomat. now everything relies on the courts, we need answers, the nature of the photographs and other things found in his car needs to be invesigated with utmost transparency. but we do need to ask ourselves this one question, can we really survive without america now that the country is in such a depressing state?Recommend

  • AM
    Feb 14, 2011 - 9:30PM

    Thank you Ms. Wahab for saying the right thing. Now, please follow-up on what you have said. It is absolutely the right thing. And all those here who are against what you say, I suggest let them starve a while and then let’s hear from them. Stoppage of US aid and any shortage of remittance from folks like me and your subsidized culture comes to a screeching halt! Do these “joshelas” know what this means! If I came to Pakistan, had a gun, knew how to use it and some one pointed it at me I’d make absolutely sure that guy never took another breath again. What is this non-sense about trying to shoot them in their legs, etc. Such a comical police report. Seems like Mian Sahib dictated it to make PPP look bad. And I don’t like either political party!

    Yes, I am a Pakistani living in US and I back you and the government completely. Those who oppose don’t have the first clue as to how the world economy, politics and existence works. They are just full of “josh” completely brain washed by illiterate, stupid mullahs. Government needs to do some thing about these mullahs before they do any thing else. Money hungry, ego patting worthless souls!

    Thank you for showing your courage!Recommend

  • Feb 14, 2011 - 9:35PM

    @Jazbaati Qaum
    So far none of the above respondent has come up with the rational reply with references. Just ‘baduaaen and laan taan\ like a typical political worker. If you guys really think Davis should not be released and Wahab is misinterpreting the law then respond her in the language of law under section sections and subsections. Recommend

  • AB
    Feb 14, 2011 - 9:39PM

    @Kamil Bangash:
    Some one soundng pragmatic,at last!Recommend

  • Rizwan
    Feb 14, 2011 - 9:42PM

    I wonder what Fauzia would say had Raymond killed her own son or daughter…!!Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Feb 14, 2011 - 9:44PM

    The PPP government is becoming unpopular due to these self-assumed kind of leaders. Some one should ask her that no one has elected her and no one expects her to say whatever she wishes on public matters.Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Feb 14, 2011 - 9:44PM

    Almighty ALLAH removing masks from our politicians and showing us there real faces. They are not looking after interests of Pakistan but want to prove we are loyal to USA. The people of Pakistan should not recognise the USA puppets. And start the countdown from these LOYAL Puppets. May ALLAH forgive us and show us right path and right people. AmeenRecommend

  • Somdet
    Feb 14, 2011 - 9:48PM

    Pakistan has finally started wetting itself after holding for long time. now the pain is excruciating and needs to relieve before it burst the dam and soils the pant. so much for the bravado of government. same thing will happen to all those showing ghairat, machosim and demanding immediate hanging of RD. the beautiful part is that even after soiling their own pants, pakis will blame it on whole world.Recommend

  • Noble Tufail
    Feb 14, 2011 - 10:00PM

    very well said Dr.Pakhtun…..The whole issue is not all about sovereignty vs sold, anti vs pro US, remittances vs starvation BUT what is the standard process to proceed this case??? Recommend

  • Mujtaba Abid
    Feb 14, 2011 - 10:06PM

    she is right, diplomats do have the immunity, 3 Pakistani diplomats have been arrested in foreign countries before this incident and all of them enjoyed the diplomat immunity.
    And i am not a pro govt, not at all !!!Recommend

  • KP
    Feb 14, 2011 - 10:14PM

    @Blithe:

    You are wrong … as per Pakistan’s own law Technical Staff at the Embassy and their family members get full immunity. It is about time people in Pakistan to get aware of their own laws Recommend

  • Feb 14, 2011 - 10:17PM

    Guys… She is just testing water..

    Relax!Recommend

  • saleem muhammad
    Feb 14, 2011 - 10:23PM

    She is right. The stoppage of aid from US will hurt only Poor. Our rich do not want to pay Tax (RGST is the case in example which nawaz shareef oppose….as representative of the business community), so we have to rely on US. Your roads, schools, hospitals, income support programes, and even Army is surviving due to US aid.

    If you ask this Ghairat Brigade to give Tax they will never but they can curse US day and night.Recommend

  • Ghulam Abbas
    Feb 14, 2011 - 10:24PM

    Ms Wahab after creating the whole mess declared that what she said was her personal view. The official stance of PPP and its Government known to all i,e let the court decide. Today’s statement of Ms Wahab clearly contradicts the policy and stance of PPP. If Mr Qureshi has done any violation of party discipline by issuing any statement , Ms Wahab did the same.Recommend

  • Mohsin
    Feb 14, 2011 - 10:27PM

    @AM:
    Go keep ur remitances u sell out

    We need good governance and rule of law, we have enough resources to become an economic powerhouse, we won’t need Americas aid which theygive so they can stage manage our affairs.
    We need to eat grass and become an honourable nation
    Rekodiq alone is worth 250 billion dollars Recommend

  • Jahan
    Feb 14, 2011 - 10:27PM

    If Davis is freed like this next time people will not wait for the police or anybody if there is any foreign involved in an alleged crime and they will end his story right on the road.Recommend

  • Nael
    Feb 14, 2011 - 10:27PM

    Oh Allah please do not allow them to play with our dignity. YaAzizo Ya Ghaffar.Recommend

  • a ercelan
    Feb 14, 2011 - 10:40PM

    how would Ms F Wahab feel if she is to be murdered in cold blood by, lets say, a bangladeshi diplo as revenge for ZAB’s complicity in the massacre of Bangladeshis? an afghan diplo for massacres by the Taliban? a sikh diplo for the betrayal of …Recommend

  • a ercelan
    Feb 14, 2011 - 10:41PM

    Ms Wahab wants to discipline ex FM Shah Mahmood Qureshi. it seems that she must first discipline herself!Recommend

  • Shazad Khan
    Feb 14, 2011 - 10:52PM

    @AM: Thank you for your opinion, how about this: you may also be thankful to Ms wahab and the PPP for putting Pakistan in the situation where we are totally dependent on begging for aid from other countries, if they had any guts and competency to run the country, they are in the government from a long time, they would have done it by now. Further we don’t see any future planning as well, please do enlighten me on this issue if you happen to know anything.
    Only thing i know is that the economic condition of the country is getting worse as each day passing, we don’t have electricity, we don’t have Gas, prices of commodities is getting out of reach, the government has failed to provide security, we are burying bodies every day, every member of the parliament is allegedly corrupt and by that u know who am i talking about.
    so what exactly is it that you would appreciate about this government? Recommend

  • Blithe
    Feb 14, 2011 - 10:59PM

    How much depraved can one get!

    Just look at the statement:

    She said that the government has to handle this case with care as the United States is the largest donor of foreign aid to Pakistan.

    Even a primary school child knows that tule of law SHOULD NOT take into account such considerations.

    Ms. Fauzi, I don’t know how you can get away with such a statement!
    You and your ilk do not represent Pakistan. Recommend

  • Blithe
    Feb 14, 2011 - 11:02PM

    @Blithe:
    RULE OF LAW.Recommend

  • steven
    Feb 14, 2011 - 11:02PM

    Pakistan is not a free country, it the state of USA. Nothing absolutely nothing could happen in Pakistan without the approval of its masters.Recommend

  • karachiite
    Feb 14, 2011 - 11:08PM

    if this is the case it is such a good idea lets send our ISI operatives as consultants to other countries shoot some leaders and claim immunity hope this enlightened public will support us with same fervour as they are supporting DavisRecommend

  • S. Asghar
    Feb 14, 2011 - 11:16PM

    -= Vienna Convention 1961 =-

    [UN Website: http://untreaty.un.org/ilc/texts/instruments/english/conventions/911961.pdf ]

    – Article 37 (2) states (pg 11):

    Members of the administrative and technical staff of the mission, together with members of their families forming part of their respective households, shall, if they are not nationals of or permanently resident in the receiving State, enjoy the privileges and immunities specified in articles 29 to 35, EXCEPT that the immunity from civil and administrative jurisdiction of the receiving State specified in paragraph 1 of article 31 shall NOT EXTENDS to acts performed outside the course of their duties.

    – Article 31 (1) (pg 9):

    1.A diplomatic agent shall enjoy immunity from the criminal jurisdiction of the receiving State. He shall also enjoy immunity from its civil and administrative jurisdiction, EXCEPT in the case of:

    (c) An action relating to any professional or commercial activity exercised by the diplomatic agent in the receiving State OUTSIDE HIS OFFICIAL FUNCTIONS.

    -= Vienna Convention On Counselor Relations 1963 =-

    [ http://untreaty.un.org/ilc/texts/instruments/english/conventions/921963.pdf ]

    Article 41 (1) pg 17:

    1.Consular officers shall not be liable to arrest or detention pending trial, “EXCEPT” in the case of a grave crime and pursuant to a decision by the competent judicial authority.

    —= Role of Courts =—

    Diplomatic Immunity: Principles, Practices, and Problems‘ By Grant V. McLanahon [Published for the Institute for the study of Diplomacy, Georgetown University, Washington DC, 1976 pg.125]

    The Courts:

    The court’s role in relation to question about Diplomatic immunity has been clarified and simplified by the guidance on the law provided by Vienna Conventions.It is still the courts of a country that have final word in many cases on who and what are entitled to diplomatic immunity.

    For many years, after Act of 1970 in the United States, An ambessdor or Servant can not be sued by a citizen EXCEPT before the supreme court. The foreign missions were notified of this change by the State department circular note of 31st October, 1978.

    P.S: Raymond Davis detention is lawful, and fully accordance with Vienna Conventions (UN Treaties). Pakistan is rightfully entitled to pursue the case against Raymond Davis. My sincere apologies for excessive use of highlighting key points. Forward, and share our principle stance; based on International laws.

    S. Asghar.
    Recommend

  • AM
    Feb 14, 2011 - 11:18PM

    @Mohsin:
    Mohsin Bhai, you are dreaming. First you need to take some steps to enable the nation to stand on its own feet. Then (and after a long time after that) can we ever dream of becoming an economic power. There is not an example in history of this world where a beggar became a billionaire. Can you point to one; just one? And please do not bring our holy book or religion into this! Please back-up your “josh”! We have HUGE issues and this is only a very small/non-issue the nation is spending so much energy on. Go solve energy shortage; food shortage; housing for flood victims and on and on and on…Recommend

  • parvez
    Feb 14, 2011 - 11:30PM

    When its time for handing out political Oscar Awards, Fauzia Wahab must get best supporting actress. Recommend

  • KP
    Feb 14, 2011 - 11:50PM

    @ S Asghar

    You seem to be jumping from one Convention to another. As US has identified him as member of the technical staff at US Embassy he is to be given diplomatic immunity under the Vienna Convention 1961. This immunity for him is also provided in Pakistan’s own laws which are based on Vienna Convention. As such his detention is illegal.Recommend

  • Ali Haider
    Feb 15, 2011 - 12:04AM

    Why is there is immunity anyway? If the US want to exercise immunity, it should at least promise to try him a US court. But having killed two guys and getting away with it….??Recommend

  • arsibux
    Feb 15, 2011 - 12:09AM

    its real example of capitalism. no humanity no ethics no laws just power and mony.Recommend

  • ahmed
    Feb 15, 2011 - 12:14AM

    what a beautiful logic by Mrs. Fouzia, since US is giving us millions of dollars so we should release killer of two persons, whose matter is in court. What a beautiful expression of respect for human rights by my american friends. Just for my understanding, can anybody give any example for such immunity for any killer under geneva accord before this incident in any country. Anexiuosly waiting to see any…Recommend

  • KP
    Feb 15, 2011 - 12:18AM

    @ Ali Haider

    Diplomatic immunity is given so that members and families of diplomatic missions don’t get caught in hostility between two countries. Members of India and Pakistan diplomatic mission, (and this includes people like drivers etc) are regularly “caught”for espionage. Now if this Vienna Convention is not their to protect them , they can be shot for such an activity.

    So this act protects them (all diplomatic staff irrespective of country) in such a situation. The most a country, if they do catch a diplomatic staff member, is to declare him person non grata and send him back to his country.The maximum that can be done is to cut of all diplomatic relations …. which has happened in past i some cases. But you never arrest a member of the embassy.Recommend

  • Aamir
    Feb 15, 2011 - 12:34AM

    @KP:

    What about the confession he made during preliminary investigation that he works for US consulate as a “Consultant”. Now US government and corrupt PPP regime will try to fabricate every excuse to get him out of jail.Recommend

  • Kamil Bangash
    Feb 15, 2011 - 1:07AM

    @AB:

    You may have misunderstood me, friend. If it was up to me, I would put the military and political (including religio-political) elites of this country where they rightly belong – in the dustbin of history. But unfortunately I can only express my frustration in these opinion columns. I do not understand what the use of a separate country is when we cannot even hope to lead a slightly dignified life. May be you can enlighten us on this question?! Recommend

  • AM
    Feb 15, 2011 - 1:22AM

    @Shazad Khan:
    Shazad Sahib. I appreciate nothing this government has done. I wish people (hopefully like you) rise, get rid of them, get rid of the system, get rid of the land lords, corruption, mullahs, etc. It is then that we begin to right the terribly wronged ship. I cam to Pakistan to provide Pakistani’s with job opportunities in IT and I got robbed or should I say ripped-off. Had to go to India to get it straightened out at a very substantial loss. Still will and do help Pakistani’s but it’s time we begin to help ourselves. I hope you agree!Recommend

  • Saad Durrani
    Feb 15, 2011 - 1:24AM

    Lets see. Haqqani, kill 3 Americans and come back to Pakistan. After all, you have the diplomatic immunity.Recommend

  • Danish Ali
    Feb 15, 2011 - 2:09AM

    ITS MEAN ANY ONE CAME PAKISTAN AND DO WAT THEY WANT AND WE PAKISTANI WATCH THEM AND ENJOY LIKE A FOOL.
    Recommend

  • Mehmood Sheheryar Khan
    Feb 15, 2011 - 2:14AM

    For whom Fauzi Wahab and Farhatullah Baber toil and toll? Which of the two foolish or naive. Fauzia seems to play to the one gallery that is pro-Raymond Davies and Barber to the other that wants the Aamericcan hanged or exchanged for another deranged person like him who is now in a US prison. Let them sing varying tunes for different audiences as that is democracy.

    Ustad Zauq said two centuries ago:

    Gulhaey rung run sey hay zeenat-e-chaman

    Hay Zauq is chaman ko zeb ikhtilaf say

    which was endorsed by Chairman Mao in recent decades:

    Let a hundred flowers bloom, and

    A thousand shools of thought be content.
    Recommend

  • Kamran A.
    Feb 15, 2011 - 2:34AM

    What’s there to say, the entire sorry saga speaks for itself. We have a political leadership that’s bought and paid for, not directly but through their unscrupulous manipulation of the nation’s resources. They hold dual nationalities and foreign bank accounts and if we think for a second that their American puppet masters will let them dictate anything that is counter to what the Americans want, then just ask the ex foreign minister, Mr Qureshi. All the well meaning people in this forum who suggest that somehow Pakistanis need to focus inwards, seem to forget that the road that leads to economic progress goes through the same hallways where these parasites lurk. It’s a paradox. People who have the power to legislate policies that in the long term will benefit us as a nation, are the direct beneficiaries of the absence of such legislation. Who’s going to give us an independent election commission, or amend eligibility laws for holding public office, or bring swift and exacting punitive measures against those who are sucking our life blood ? It may seem like i’m beating a dead horse but as long as we have political leadership who are bereft of ideology and whose only agenda is to lookout for themselves, we will always be dictated to by others. So yes, in the big picture , this RD affair may be a non issue and we should be pragmatic about it but people like Wahab are not preaching caution due to any concern for our larger national interest but rather what’s politically expedient for their own survival. They are not in a position to take a moral stand for Pakistan because frankly they did away with any moral integrity a long time ago, they are moral zombies. RD will be freed and sent back, whether we like it or not and if that leads us to an Al-Tahreer square type scenario then the thing we should learn from all this and take forward and strive for, is the absolute accountability for any one who is elected to public office, and the discourse needs to focus on all legal and constitutional steps that need to be taken to move towards a more infallible political leadership. Until that happens we as a nation will forever be compromised and in this case forever may come sooner than we think. Recommend

  • Nadeem Saeed
    Feb 15, 2011 - 3:12AM

    Section II, Article 41 of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations of 1963, in its first paragraph regarding the “Personal inviolability of consular officers,” states:

    Blockquote

    Consular officers shall not be liable to arrest or detention pending trial, except in the case of a grave crime and pursuant to a decision by the competent judicial authority

    Blockquote

    So, in the case of Raymond Davis our police and judiciary are the competent authorities. Raymond has prima facie committed a gravest of the crimes and it’s up to investigative agencies and judiciary to decide whether he acted in self defence and that is he entitled to diplomatic immunity? Let the judicial process takes its courseRecommend

  • maestro
    Feb 15, 2011 - 4:05AM

    @Concerned_American: Bud – Davis shot with pinpoint accuracy, had pics of sensitive sites from the India – Pakistan border on his camera, an illegal firearm without a license, driving in a vehicle without diplomatic tags in a part of Lahore that most Pakistanis do not venture into let alone foreigners, shot one of the “assailants” in the back when he was running away, the American vehicle that came to his “rescue” ran over a third innocent civilian killing him, and one of the “assailants” wife committed suicide due to zero expectation of justice. Police reports have proved that neither one of the assailants guns had bullets in the chamber so the self-defense claim goes to naught. Add to that the fact that the American govt is freaking out big time over this from day one plus changing the story on his status in Pakistan repeatedly. This is clearly fishy – sorry – Pakistan is not the 51st state. And you can throw at us the argument that you give us aid – hellooo – we have lost thousands of soldiers and civilian lives fighting your war on terror – you owe us a lot more than a few billion bucks, Add to that the fact that not one of the 9/11 hijackers was Pakistani – uhh – 18 were Saudi, one was Egyptian – the leader. I don’t see the US going after the Saudis – aww – they have this thing called oil! lol…..Recommend

  • Singh
    Feb 15, 2011 - 4:32AM

    This lady talks so sane.
    Why such false pride are on stake in pakistan??Aid money directly impacts poor.
    Raymonds killed 2 robbers.They were not saint.

    In india,if something like this happens,it doesn’t even come in media.And india dont want such trivial things to disrupt democratic process.

    Why pakistan are trying to undermine your own democracy.If you give it time,it will surely flourish.Let PPP work for 5 years and if it doesnt deliver ,vote them out .Why so many hues and cries before 5 years ?
    The amounts of rallies,revolts,public anger in pakistan is too biased against politicians.
    All democracies mature slowly.Indian democracy was/is more corrupt and corrupt indian media toes the government as proved from Nadia tapes.Corruption in india is on larger scale and poor people are suffering. somehow they have little faith in system.This faith has made 300 million poor come to middle class in last 50 years.On the other side,poverty is less in pakistan.
    There are about 450 million poor people in india and 50% of indian children are malnourished .
    We have more poor than subafrican continent.Has those people lost faith in indian democracy??
    I have personally never heard of such poor in pakistan.
    Coming back to scandals=>
    The commonwealth scandal and 2 G spectrum scandal alone costs government 50 billion dollar.

    But it doesn’t make indians lose faith in democracy.1.4 trillion dollar of Indian money is deposited in UBS swiss banks which they are not ready to disclose.Does india stop business with switzerland?American company caused 15000 death in “MIC leakage in bhopal :the worst industrial disaster in world”.

    India was not in condition to stay a word against usa ,although it got some pennies for casualty.

    Why to possess false emotions which are hollow??Raymond davis incident is a simple act.Let your government and country use it as bargaining tool. pakistan economicy is not in good shape.So its absurd to hurt the poor.Recommend

  • karachiite
    Feb 15, 2011 - 4:45AM

    @ KP: Art 37 (2) of 61 convention states
    2.Members of the administrative and technical staff of the mission, together with members of
    their families forming part of their respective households, shall, if they are not nationals of or
    permanently resident in the receiving State, enjoy the privileges and immunities specified in articles 29 to 35, except that the immunity from civil and administrative jurisdiction of the receiving State specified in paragraph 1 of article 31 shall not extend to acts performed outside the course of their duties. They shall also enjoy the privileges specified in article 36, paragraph 1, in respect of articles imported at the time of first installation

    In light of the evidence found on him courts are doing their job ascertaining whether he was acting within his course of duty (if so US MUST explain why he is allocated duties contrary to Pakistan’s interests, but that is just my opinion) if it is found he was acting within his duties he will be released until then his detention is justifiedRecommend

  • karachiite
    Feb 15, 2011 - 5:20AM

    @karachiite .. contd read my previous comment in light of following provision within the aspects of presumed blackwaters claim

    31(1)(c) An action relating to any professional or commercial activity exercised by the diplomatic agent in the receiving State outside his official functions.Recommend

  • karachiite2
    Feb 15, 2011 - 5:20AM

    @karachiite .. contd read my previous comment in light of following provision within the aspects of presumed blackwaters claim

    31(1)(c) An action relating to any professional or commercial activity exercised by the diplomatic agent in the receiving State outside his official functions.Recommend

  • Ali Haider
    Feb 15, 2011 - 6:59AM

    Mrs. Wahab,

    “You say it best, when you say nothing at all” literallyRecommend

  • Feb 15, 2011 - 7:25AM

    I just ask Ms. Fouzia and all the government officials if your own son was killed by Raymond Davis instead of those killed then will you let this killer go away??? and as per your statement that he enjoyed the immunity since he was having a diplomatic visa. Ms. Fouzia read this which clearly says in Viana convention 1961 that

    “while providing immunity to diplomats, allows the detention, judicial review and possible prosecution of diplomatic individuals if they have committed a “grave offense” as the immunity is not granted in the case of “grave offenses”. He have commited a grave offense by killing two human beings and he have to face Pakistani courts.

    Ms. Fouzia I would like to warn you and all the corrupt government offcials in Pakistan and those so called leaders of Pakistan that Pakistani youths are closely watching enough of it and will come out in millions on the streets of Pakistan and around the world but not only for the change of the Government this time but truly overhaul change where you all can’t escape from Pakistan and will face the youths of Pakistan if you or your leaders let this killer go away because the pressure of US Government. Watch it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it doesn’t seem to be far now……..Recommend

  • Anoop
    Feb 15, 2011 - 8:09AM

    Pakistanis are shooting themselves in the foot and they dont even realize it.

    India will get its long cherished dream fulfilled- Cutting off of Western Aid to Pakistan. Not now, but certainly after 2014 after Afghan withdrawal is finished. This is absolutely certain.Recommend

  • M Bilal
    Feb 15, 2011 - 9:34AM

    Now its government turn to take disciplinary action agst Ms. Wahab as she has made her own feelings public agst party policy just like Shah Mehmood Qureshi.Recommend

  • Kazmis
    Feb 15, 2011 - 9:41AM

    Raymond Davis preferred to take visit visa to visit Pakistan not diplomatic one which shows that he was interested to complete some work including Mozang event, out of Diplomatic bindings.Recommend

  • Khalid Mashhood
    Feb 15, 2011 - 9:51AM

    Just like everyone has the right to become an expert on Vienna Convention (without many even knowing what and where Vienna is), at least FW had the courtesy to quote the relevant sections of the convention in the press conference and read it. If she is wrong, then you got to prove her wrong. And you don’t need to quote reports and interpretation that has appeared in Ansar Abbasi, Ahmed Noorani and others’ reports in another newspaper.

    People are just acting irrationally. I was befuddled last evening when I heard a lady say on Capital Talk that now Pakistanis should show some courage and all rich pakistanis should bring their money back. Is that a sensible statement and that too on live tv? Recommend

  • jz
    Feb 15, 2011 - 9:53AM

    I wish I was a diplomat ….. in Pakistan! Recommend

  • M. H. Hussain
    Feb 15, 2011 - 10:10AM

    “”Wahab said that the US was the largest market for Pakistani products, adding that the country earned more than $4 billion annually from trade with it. “More than a million Pakistanis are living in US, send remittances, which supports our economy. But unfortunately, we are talking against the (same) country and its people without any logic.”

    Whether Raymond enjoys immunity or not, saying things like this is way out of context.Recommend

  • Well wisher
    Feb 15, 2011 - 10:20AM

    I wish somebody from abroad come and kill The Corrupt Man …. huh we would luv to provide him the immunity from our law!Recommend

  • Hammad Ali
    Feb 15, 2011 - 10:36AM

    Its again like selling the blood of your nationals for money and trade. Ya Allah save this country from such insensible and self-motivated individuals… Recommend

  • imran
    Feb 15, 2011 - 10:51AM

    The End Result- Davis will scot free cos he can neither be hanged or imprisoned being a citizen of United States not Pakistan.Recommend

  • imran
    Feb 15, 2011 - 11:02AM

    The End Result- Davis will go scot free cos he can neither be hanged nor imprisoned being a citizen of United States not Pakistan.Recommend

  • Afridi
    Feb 15, 2011 - 11:06AM

    There is no need of preparing people for the ultimate release of the Davis. We are prepare and know from the very incident that the blood of three Pakistani is extremely cheap and worthless like a moth for both USG and Pakistani government, and we also believe that whoever party was in authority they would be considering Davis immune, so I am writing without any grudge for the PPP government. We have came out of the day dreaming, and know our helplessness in face of American, slave country is not a chooser.
    As Liaqat Ali Khan said, now Allah help this country. Recommend

  • drsaif
    Feb 15, 2011 - 11:08AM

    In the wake of Davis imbroglio, some poeple are of the view that “They( U. S) want Davis and we ( Pakistan ) want Aafia “. Taking this opportunity , I would like to comment that Aafia siddiqi was the member of the terrorist group Al -Qaeda , hence both Pakistan & U. S had to curb her under law. Though her trial was unjust beyond any shadow of doubt . But it was also fact she was a international terrorist belonging to an international terrorist group Al- qaeda. while on the other hand , Raymond was on his diplomatic visa so he has right to enjoy his immunity. According to vienna convention Pakistan is bound to handover him to U. S.
    Raymond davis had his diplomatic visa( american official ) . And in this way he must enjoy his diplomatic visa immunity for what he did in his self -defence. Mullahs & section of Media are actively engaged in politicising this issue for their own vested interests, othrwise it is fairly clear that Raymond issue is almost over now. Regarding davis issue PPP central information secretary Fauzia wahab ‘ s version is very accurate and correct. Discussing on Raymond davis diplomatic status , she reminded that Pakistan is signatory of vienna convention, and pakistan should abide by national and international laws , She also said “case is now in courts, let our independent judiciary decide on it “. There is huge furore over davis is only and only because of that he is american. We being pakistani local nationals and citizens know very well that there are alarming incidents of street crimes happening in our country and so far reports about the case emerged that he did his best in self defence.Recommend

  • N
    Feb 15, 2011 - 11:09AM

    they shoud put Qadri and Raymond in one cellRecommend

  • khan
    Feb 15, 2011 - 11:36AM

    Today bigTargedy for PPP is that Zardari has sideline all good, educated and hoest members who were are true companions of Benazir Bhutto. current example shah memhoood (They have no idea how much important is foreign ministry and see who will run by now Hina rabani khar .. is it not a joke with country which is facing lot of problems on international matters ).

    All who promoted by Zardari are un-expreince, unedcuated and corrupt who does not know how to speak and how treat the matters national or locally. Hope Allah will keep Pakistan safe during this period of PPP.

    Fozia wahab should first learn to speak and they try to give comments on serious matters of Davis…
    if there should be produce one more ramond davis who can kill the son or daughther of president or prime minister then these people should say that person is Safeer and enjoy immunity .. they does not know the grief of victimized family becuze therse sons and duagthers safes .. Recommend

  • S. Asghar
    Feb 15, 2011 - 11:38AM

    @KP: Oh, you have missed the ever changed stance of US Embassy. Read on, matey :-)

    U.S. Embassy issued the following press release on 28 January 2011, a day after the arrest and detention of Raymond Davis:

    A staff member of the U.S. Consulate General in Lahore was involved in an incident yesterday that regrettably resulted in the loss of life. The U.S. Embassy is working with Pakistani authorities to determine the facts and work toward a resolution.

    In other words, A Consular Officer [Read Article 1 Definitions of ‘Vienna Convention On Consular Relations i.e. “members of the consular staff” means consular officers, other than the head of a consular post, consular employees and members of the service staff]

    Even 29th January, US embassy press release had same words to offer :-).

    Now again Read Vienna Convention On Consular Relations Article 41 (1) pg 17 ;)

    My dear KP, you must have MISSED the leaked letter from US embassy to Foreign Office, Islamabad dated 20th January, 2011, clearly stating:

    It is informing Pakistan’s Foreign
    Ministry that Raymond Davis is a
    member of the Embassy’s
    “administrative and technical staff”
    and requesting for him the issuance of
    a “non-diplomatic ID” card

    All diplomats in every country of the world carry the precious Diplomatic Card issued by Foreign Office, which to the date has not been produced. The list of US diplomats published on 15th January, 2011 DOES NOT contain the name of Raymond Davis. Surprisingly, his name popped into list, few days after the incident :-)

    You also have missed the later changed stance of US embassy, where it declared R.D. as “Member of Embassy administrative and technical staff”.

    Pakistan’s stance is clearly according to International treaties :-). Now lets relax, and see how this drama unfolds, and which laws will be bent to give way to the accused. KP, It is not me, who has been jumping through the Conventions, it has been clearly the failed PR machine of US embassy, which made things miserable for the status of fake identity Raymond Davis..

    @All others: Do must read my last post related to the actual Vienna Convention, and it’s articles in favor of Pakistan’s stance; in accordance with Vienna Convention. Correct Links (missed in last post are as following):
    Vienna Convention On Diplomatic Relations 1961
    Vienna Convention On Consular Relations 1963

    P.S: Lets FORGET the 4 Gun touting SUV backup team, which hit, killed Obaid-ur-rehman, and ran away, beside US embassy still *not cooperating in investigation.*Recommend

  • Yasir Bin Tariq
    Feb 15, 2011 - 12:40PM

    I wondered, what took her so long to show her loyalty to her masters. This statement was expected much earlier. Never mind.Recommend

  • QAMAR
    Feb 15, 2011 - 2:49PM

    @Rizwan im with u man.. not only fouzia … this is to ask every single person who is saying to relaease this guy or he has diplomatic immunity… Recommend

  • Nasir
    Feb 15, 2011 - 5:18PM

    Regardless of whatever is said. If American’s offer Citizenship to all Pakistani’s all hatred will go down the drain and every single person will head for US. I guess none of us believe in self pride or reliance. If you are expecting literate decision from illiterate Leaders you must be out of your mind. Half of them cannot even read what is said. They are ruling for five years to ensure Pakistan is left with no wealth, pride and integrity.

    The countries who talk about ethics are breaking all the rules. They have the power to make Peasants / Beggars do as they please. Beggars have no choice but to rely on aid. All Muslim countries poor are begging rich are scared. If all Muslim world come together and form an alliance to help assist each other they will be the stongest nation on Planet earth. Unfortunately, rich muslim countries ae following Blonds and poor the Dollars.

    Sanity and insanity only applies if you have the coult and integrity. In our case we are seriously short of both. Puppet on chain “Leaders” they are enjoying the benefits and accomulating wealth for future and draining the our economy. Recommend

  • Feb 15, 2011 - 6:24PM

    America’s ABC News reported on 14-2-2011 that PPP Fauzia Wahab could be assassinated for illegally announcing the PPP diplomatic immunity for “US CIA spy” Raymond Allen Davis, because a Taliban spokesman told the Associated Press (AP) of America Sunday that anyone involved in Davis release “whether he is a judge, police, lawyer, army, policy-maker, or a politician – we will target him. We will kill him.”Recommend

  • Abdul-Mughis Rana
    Feb 15, 2011 - 7:27PM

    Case is clear lets wait for the learned Court’s decision.Recommend

  • parvez
    Feb 15, 2011 - 11:39PM

    After watching Senator Kerry’s interaction with the press in Lahore a few minutes ago it becomes clear as to why Fauzia Wahab had to make the statement that she did. As Mr Kerry refers to her statement to strengthen his argument. The fact that the government disowns her statement is not mentioned.Recommend

  • Syed Rizwan
    Feb 16, 2011 - 12:26AM

    we Pakistani people as per Quran-e-Paak simply knows that “Khon ka Badla Khon”. i humbly request to Pakistani Govt for God Sake plz plz plz follow the Islamic rules. nothing is better then Islam. A day will come when we all r front of God then…..
    if America can impose their rules on Dr. Afia then why we can not…….. Recommend

  • pakistani people
    Feb 16, 2011 - 5:58AM

    she is not a true pakistani coz every pakistani life have worth like devis lifeRecommend

  • pakpinoy
    Feb 16, 2011 - 7:26AM

    “Emotionalism”. It rules the lives of the entire nation. It causes its people to constantly repeat the same mistakes. I’ve never seen a people or nation so frequently fight for the wrong things. Fifty innocent people blown up in a mosque — no big deal. No one moves a finger. Innocent, defenseless village lady falsely accused of blasphemy — no big deal. No one, but one assassinated one, defends her and the nation anoints her only defender’s assassin a hero. Sick. Disgusting. Pathetic.

    Pakistan stands as the epitome of the saying, “Cut off your nose to spite your face.”Recommend

  • Feb 16, 2011 - 3:30PM

    if it is so, then wait for a bloody revolution…. good luck PakistanRecommend

  • M>W
    Feb 17, 2011 - 9:30AM

    Ahaan!! So I guess the all respected Mr. Maymond Davis should also have the rights to rape Ms.Wahab on account of diplomatic immunity. Recommend

  • Feb 17, 2011 - 10:06AM

    Fauzia Wahab is historically known for supporting and defending the cause of “immunity”, be it in the case of ‘Presidential Immunity’ of Asif Zardari or ‘Diplomatic Immunity’ of Raymond Davis. The concept of Immunity under NO LAW is neither justifiable nor fair to the system of Justice. Why and how can one “enjoy immunity” for heinous crimes he commits is beyond my comprehension.Recommend

  • Abdul-Mughis Rana
    Feb 17, 2011 - 3:37PM

    Killer is a killer even if he belongs to America! Lets wait for the Court decision. Recommend

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