CII proposes husbands be allowed to ‘lightly beat’ defying wives

Published: May 26, 2016
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CII bill proposes more curbs on women. PHOTO: FILE

CII bill proposes more curbs on women. PHOTO: FILE

ISLAMABAD: The Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) has proposed its own women protection bill, recommending ‘a light beating’ for the wife if she defies the husband.

The 20-member CII is a constitutional body which gives recommendations to parliament regarding Islamic laws. However, parliament is not bound to consider its recommendations.

CII rules women’s protection law ‘un-Islamic’

The bill was drafted after the CII rejected Punjab’s controversial Protection of Women against Violence Act (PPWA) 2015 terming it un-Islamic. The CII will now forward its proposed bill to the Punjab Assembly.

The council has proposed that a husband should be allowed to ‘lightly’ beat his wife if she defies his commands and refuses to dress up as per his desires; turns down demand of intercourse without any religious excuse or does not take bath after intercourse or menstrual periods.

It has suggested that a beating is also permissible if a woman does not observe Hijab; interacts with strangers; speaks loud enough that she can easily be heard by strangers; and provides monetary support to people without taking consent of her spouse.

Available with The Express Tribune, a copy of the 163-page bill proposes several bans on women.

It says there should be a ban on co-education after primary education, ban on women from taking part in military combat, ban on welcoming foreign delegations, interacting with males and making recreational visits with ‘Na-Mehram’. It says female nurses should not be allowed to take care of male patients and recommends that women should be banned from working in advertisements.

Religious groups say law protecting women from abuse ‘un-Islamic’

It recommends that an abortion after 120 days of conceiving should be declared ‘murder’. However, it says a woman can join politics and contract a Nikah without permission of parents.

The bill suggests that anyone who tries to force women to marry with the Holy Quran or facilitate this should be awarded 10-year imprisonment. Similarly, the proposed bill says if any non-Muslim woman is forced to convert, then the oppressor will be awarded three-year imprisonment while the woman will not be murdered if she reverts to her previous faith.

Sources in the CII told The Express Tribune that the proposed bill is under consideration by the body and further deliberation will continue on Thursday (today), when CII Chairman Muhammad Khan Sheerani will give final recommendations with the consent of other members.

They said during the deliberation on Wednesday three members, Justice (retd) Manzoor Hussain Gilani, Dr Noor Ahmed Shahtaz and Muhammad Abdullah raised objections on many clauses of the proposed bill and urged the chairman to moderate the bill.

They said the bill was drafted by Mufti Imdadullah, a member who belongs to JUI-F, adding that above three members have insisted the chairman and Imdad follow the current circumstances while drafting the law.  They said the bill was discussed by a panel comprising men as the only female CII member, Dr Sameeha Raheel Qazi, was not present on Wednesday.

Published in The Express Tribune, May 26th, 2016.

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  • Faisal Awan
    May 26, 2016 - 9:13AM

    You cannot wake up someone for prayers if they did not request for it but you can beat your wife (who is supposed to be an adult) Nurses should not treat the male patients, from the history; Muslim women used to actively participate in the wars and assisted the wounded on the battle field. Islamic Ideology Council, which is supposed to be the highest platform for consulting religious perspective is such an utter disappointment. Members of IDC are to be the most notable scholars from all sects. This reflect till what level extremism has integrated into our society. This is the reason I don’t mind anymore when I am pulled for random screening every time. Recommend

  • Raju
    May 26, 2016 - 9:13AM

    Welcome to the 14th centuryRecommend

  • Razia
    May 26, 2016 - 9:29AM

    Can I please shoot this guy. Can I actually kill them all??
    He should have mentioned that this law also applies other way round…that is women can beat up their husbands for any of the above offenses.Recommend

  • May 26, 2016 - 9:31AM

    Government should carry out psychiatric evaluation of all these guys running or rather ruining this organization!Recommend

  • Rajesh
    May 26, 2016 - 9:32AM

    Still living in 18th century.Recommend

  • JamaatEKhusra
    May 26, 2016 - 9:32AM

    How considerate of them….Maaro magar pyar se!

    I’ve done marriage counseling for twenty three years and all, I repeat, all cases of wife-beating I’ve seen were done by men who either suffered from erectile dysfunction or were unemployed or abused substances. That says a lot about this bunch.Recommend

  • Last Man Alive
    May 26, 2016 - 9:51AM

    We have never ever heard or seen this CII denouncing and proposing punishment for

    Corruption, Acid throwing, Rape of Women and Children, Dishonesty,

    Cruelty, Adulteration, Cheating, Land Grabbing, Deceit, Filthiness,

    Waste of Water and other resources, Cutting of Trees,

    Traffic Violations endangering others’ lives, Price Hiking,

    Hoarding, Trespassing, Teasing of Women, Stealing.

    Their focus of Islam appears to wholly solely

    revolves around women.

    When will we come out of dark ages ???

    Will we ever? Recommend

  • Ashfaq
    May 26, 2016 - 9:51AM

    OMG is he serious? Does he have daughters? Can someone please lock him up and throw away the keys. Disgusting!Recommend

  • Proud Bharatiya Muslim Mahila
    May 26, 2016 - 9:52AM

    Is this called Progress in Pakistan…Thanks my grandparents did the right choice to stay back in Bharat. Jai HindRecommend

  • MARTIN KAPLAN
    May 26, 2016 - 10:06AM

    I think it’s OK to let husbands “lightly beat” wives that defy them, as long as their wives are allowed to “lightly shoot” husbands who do so.Recommend

  • Malang Jan
    May 26, 2016 - 10:27AM

    Since we are all so fond of conspiracy theories, here is one; I say that these guys are part of an international conspiracy to disgrace this country! Doesn’t need Bush to take us back to the Stone Age!Recommend

  • Ali S
    May 26, 2016 - 10:28AM

    @Rajesh:

    More like 10th.Recommend

  • ilyas
    May 26, 2016 - 10:29AM

    What a bunch of wankers,wife beating but lightly,
    What’s lightly? And women can take part in politics,but they can’t talk to strangers,so when they meet other mens in politics they will keep their mouths shut, if I could ever get my hands on these wankers I don’t know what I would do them.Recommend

  • Anon
    May 26, 2016 - 10:31AM

    Nothing wrong……this is what Dr. Zakir Naik also says…….Recommend

  • Rollin & Trollin
    May 26, 2016 - 10:39AM

    First of all there is no such thing as “lightly beat”, that statement enough is an insult to the intelligence of men and women alike ! If one is to administer beatings, then it should be done with the full rigor and severity of a gangland stomping. But, of course, one should expect the repurcussions of one’s actions and possible retaliation. That being the case, a man should face it honor, and may the better party win. That’s all I have to say on this topic.Recommend

  • Asif
    May 26, 2016 - 10:44AM

    Who actually appointed him to this post? Recommend

  • PakPower
    May 26, 2016 - 10:50AM

    Abolish this archaic organization, please.Recommend

  • Tp
    May 26, 2016 - 10:51AM

    Amazing Islamic innovations are coming from Pakistan !!!!!Recommend

  • Tp
    May 26, 2016 - 10:52AM

    @Razia said: “Can I please shoot this guy.”
    No. You are liable to be “lightly beaten”.Recommend

  • Adnan Siddiqui
    May 26, 2016 - 10:55AM

    Future of Pakistan is safe in the capable hands of these great thinkers!
    Research and development in Pakistan (on wife beating) deserves a Nobel Prize.
    Now we know how life would have been in the past where there were no media to monitor these geniuses. No amount of denial can hide that anymore.Recommend

  • inam
    May 26, 2016 - 10:59AM

    How about doing something to prevent acid attacks on womenRecommend

  • F Khan
    May 26, 2016 - 11:02AM

    And this is the Quaid’s Pakistan? He is probably turning in his grave. Since this is such an unconstitutional setup, who can the people turn to, to help them? The PM — I am not sure he has a backbone? Imran Khan? He lost his spine when he had fallen down. Who does that leave us with — Gen Raheel Shariff. Can he put them in a ship and did what Attaturk did???Recommend

  • Adil
    May 26, 2016 - 11:03AM

    To My American Friends, Please drone the fellow. Thanks …..MANY ThanksRecommend

  • BlackHat
    May 26, 2016 - 11:10AM

    The man looks so pious and kind, just like Santa that kids love. That is why he is saying “lightly”!Recommend

  • vinsin
    May 26, 2016 - 11:12AM

    @Proud Bharatiya Muslim Mahila:
    India has more Sharia laws for Muslims then Pakistan.Recommend

  • ZAK
    May 26, 2016 - 11:31AM

    Proposals of CII are like making women a sex machine or washing machines.

    I think women must be given preference for all those jobs which do not involve physical hardships.

    Here in Pakistan 50% of population is sitting idle. Whole day these ladies stay at home and depression is on the rise.

    So inbolve them in positive activites like office jobs.

    Child care centres should take care of their babies and they should take care of nation.
    Bill must address sexual harassment and glaring at women. Those glaring women must be punished.Recommend

  • SGN
    May 26, 2016 - 11:35AM

    @Anon: “this is what Dr. Zakir Naik also says”.

    You just destroyed your own argument by trying to use in its support the statements of an incorrigible bigot. He is one of India’s great assets and may he remain so for a long time to come.Recommend

  • Thora Bora
    May 26, 2016 - 11:54AM

    Not understand “lightly beat”… It means beat by sweeper or Chappal… or or anyother thing…the equipment and the intensity to beat should be clear in figures.Recommend

  • Human
    May 26, 2016 - 12:08PM

    Will someone please please beat this man up !!!!!!!!

    or shut him up pleaseRecommend

  • Haji Atiya
    May 26, 2016 - 12:13PM

    @Thora Bora:
    He is actually parroting what that Saudi marriage counselor said a few weeks back in using something like a handkerchief to do the deed ! Besides absurdities, nothing even original coming from CII !Recommend

  • Husain
    May 26, 2016 - 12:21PM

    Please present this bill in the assembly. I would love to know how many and who supports this.Recommend

  • SKChadha
    May 26, 2016 - 12:35PM

    Very Good ….. Implement it fast in Jungle.Recommend

  • guy
    May 26, 2016 - 12:50PM

    Welcome to 7th centuryRecommend

  • Kavita
    May 26, 2016 - 1:50PM

    Cringeworthy to say the least. Can’t believe even uneducated people can have a thought-process like that in the present day… let alone people who are on a constitutional body that gives recommendations to a country’s parliament. Pathetic!Recommend

  • Shakeela
    May 26, 2016 - 2:34PM

    Why don’t they propose any law regarding a man deceiving his wife?Recommend

  • Abdul Awwal
    May 26, 2016 - 2:36PM

    These things happen only in countries where Muslims are in majority. Recommend

  • Ashraf
    May 26, 2016 - 3:09PM

    I would like to beat this man not so “lightly”. Recommend

  • hammurabi
    May 26, 2016 - 3:39PM

    Whatever they have suggested is provided in religion.Don’t use your brain in heavenly matters– friends even if your common sense says so.Recommend

  • Mukhtar Shah
    May 26, 2016 - 3:39PM

    Please, note that CII is not 20 member’s body. It has 10 members !Recommend

  • Bilal Mehmud
    May 26, 2016 - 3:40PM

    We are already into mistreating the women, you can’t imagine how further this will destroy the family system where women has a hold into the house matters. We respect our mothers, sisters, daughters of us and all of us. My heart sheds tears when I hear story of a brave man beating a weaker being.

    We certainly don’t want to see beatings happening in our homes. Recommend

  • kilo
    May 26, 2016 - 3:57PM

    Poor Mullan could not explain properly..What he means by “lightly beat” is S&M style beating. Recommend

  • F35
    May 26, 2016 - 4:03PM

    ” CII proposes husbands be allowed to ‘lightly beat’ defying wives”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    ….until they r lightly dead….
    I salute this ultra modern religion.Recommend

  • Frank
    May 26, 2016 - 4:04PM

    The sad fact is that there are many people in our society that agree with him…Will any politician or public figure stand up to him? Definitely not…Naya Pakistan indeed! Recommend

  • Areebah Shahid
    May 26, 2016 - 4:06PM

    CII needs to be disbanded. It is a disgrace to Islam and humanity.Recommend

  • Ch. Allah Daad
    May 26, 2016 - 4:10PM

    Nothing said about those women who beat their husbands. There is a an example of a prominent women who not only thrashed her husband, also dumped him after getting millions. Recommend

  • Syed Taha
    May 26, 2016 - 5:04PM

    We sholuld not beat our wives but if there is anything tthat bothers you then U should tell her and try to do such things that your wife donot do anything against your will
    beating them is not right in any wayRecommend

  • Vikram
    May 26, 2016 - 5:26PM

    That is a good news, acid attacks will be investigated. CII should design a bat that can be used to beat women lightly. CII should sell these bats with instructions on where to hit and how hard to hit.Recommend

  • Vikram
    May 26, 2016 - 5:29PM

    @Ch. Allah Daad: How could a woman beat her husband lightly? Islam does not allow this. She should be stoned to make an example so that no Muslim woman will ever dare to be her husband. If you wife beats you go complain to CII.Recommend

  • Heh
    May 26, 2016 - 7:59PM

    @Ch. Allah Daad – you are my favorite satirical commentator.Recommend

  • JK
    May 26, 2016 - 8:06PM

    This guy should be sent to caves of Afghanistan where he belongs.How much Tax payer money,cars and security being spent on this group of cave people?Recommend

  • Humaira
    May 26, 2016 - 8:18PM

    Council of Islamic Ideology should educate themselves first before these dirty old men can ban women from living. They need to understand that God doesn’t need them to make up laws on His behalf.Recommend

  • Faisal Afzal
    May 26, 2016 - 8:53PM

    I would like to be able to lightly beat the CII. To be honest, I had not heard of this title until about a year ago, stop giving him publicity.Recommend

  • Mirza Asif Baig
    May 26, 2016 - 8:55PM

    You just pointed you the negative Points of the Bills. Recommend

  • Asif
    May 26, 2016 - 9:05PM

    What is for defying husbands?Recommend

  • Jaggu
    May 26, 2016 - 9:08PM

    Maulana has lost it completely. He should be relieved of his responsibilities.Recommend

  • hammurabi
    May 26, 2016 - 9:31PM

    Why Maulana is under severe criticism.He is following the words of Allah.We have no right to interpret these according to our wishful thinking.If anyone differs I can quote from relevant pages.(Authenticated)Recommend

  • Rawalpindi Kid
    May 26, 2016 - 9:42PM

    As deplorable as these recommendations are from the CII, I think everyone is missing the main takeaway. Does anyone doubt that the CII’s recommendations are in contradiction to Islamic law? Why punish the messenger then? CII is not the problem, it is that we have not allowed Islam to come out of the middle ages. Take yourself back 1500 years and these recommendations would be the norm of the Arab society. Today they are repulsive. But we continue to live contradictory lives. Peace.Recommend

  • Safa
    May 26, 2016 - 10:32PM

    Oh dear!. Islam has never been about beating anyone, even less the wife. These people have missed the point. They are stuck in an ancient mindset, they need to get out a bit more, and realise the giving women freedom, will solve many issues ailing the Muslim world. Recommend

  • May 26, 2016 - 11:28PM

    its good that Mullaha some how agree to protect the Women, other wise the Behaving with womens like animal,
    still am appricating these efforts which are made by CII , we all need to Support it to Protect our women, which faces very bad situation in our society, and world are laguhing on us.Recommend

  • Jaggu
    May 27, 2016 - 12:17AM

    @Rawalpindi Kid:
    @Hammurabi
    You are the ones interpreting Allah’s words according to your wishes. Perhaps you people have been taught only lip service religion and not the real one. I pity your wives if you have one/ going to have in future.Recommend

  • Shah
    May 27, 2016 - 12:31AM

    All the hijabis & maulvis & raiwandis & Al-huda lovers need to understand that this (what CII is stating) is part of the complete package, so take it and enjoy.Recommend

  • observer
    May 27, 2016 - 12:44AM

    @hammurabi:

    “Why Maulana is under severe criticism.He is following the words of Allah.We have no right to interpret these according to our wishful thinking.If anyone differs I can quote from relevant pages.(Authenticated)”

    Quite true. People condemning the CII and the maulana don’t seem to have studied the scriptures. For a start, they should study 4:34 and 38:44 before making erroneous commnentsRecommend

  • May 27, 2016 - 1:11AM

    Women protection question basically is connected with mindset; Asian continent considers a woman/wife as shoes of his feet. Maulana Hazraat need to change this dirty mind Without cleansing this dirty mind law cannot reverse the torturous mind/situation. it is a sadist situation. Recommend

  • KANISHKA
    May 27, 2016 - 1:25AM

    He is correct; follow Islam in letter and spirit or else every one will be allowed to indulge in merciless beating of their wives!Recommend

  • Ali N
    May 27, 2016 - 1:29AM

    We seriously need to abolish CII and endorse a secular state of Pakistan. CII and religious parties will take us back to stone age.Recommend

  • Gulshanin Aalani
    May 27, 2016 - 1:33AM

    What nonsense! Islam has already given the rules for everything, We don’t need the Sheikhs
    Imams or Gov. leaders to rule our private lives..Are we that stupid to allow someone else
    to rule our household? It is up to the husband to change his wife’s bad behavior and V/V.
    The Western women, including Hindus, Ismailis, Punjabis etc are being beaten to death,
    so let us forbid that. If the couple do not respect each other then get the divorce and don’t become violent Pigs-Men and women.Recommend

  • Atif
    May 27, 2016 - 2:00AM

    Please beat up CII team.
    Who are those sick peoples.
    A bill to beat such psychopath.Recommend

  • jagmohan
    May 27, 2016 - 2:12AM

    This is a recommendation from the chief of Islamic Council,a constitutional body,in the
    context of a bill/law earlier passed by the Punjab Assembly,and that now petitioned
    against, in the Supreme Court.Yet another law is under making up by JUI,under patronage
    of Zafrulla saab.All such developments show that Pakistan has the only great problem,
    that is reformation of women rights,and they are reformed by light beating,the society
    can not progress on Islamic lines,as per prescription of the Islamic Council.There is no
    novelty or curiosity in hearing beating of wives,as it has had been happening since ages,
    but to make a law in the 21st century is really astonishingly a retrogade step,definitely
    taking back Pakistan to stone age.
    Such brainless suggestions are ludicrous in face of
    terrific problems being faced by Pakistan,it is time to take stock of how and why
    to get out of the chaos,to move on path of peace and progress,and that will lesen
    the chances of wife/husband beating and causes thereof.No sane person can think
    of wife beating even by broom/stick made of flowers,cotton or silk.Recommend

  • Beat the heat
    May 27, 2016 - 3:32AM

    Can someone please lightly beat this guy?Recommend

  • sarwar
    May 27, 2016 - 5:24AM

    Guys come on. The man is a politician. The proposed law is nonsense in its entirety and should be resisted. Wife beating clause is inserted, and then adequately propagated, as a throw off. When he gets the entire nation focusing on this one element, CII can magnanimously take that out of the proposal to get the remaining law through. “Win-Win” situation for all. While focusing on trees please don;t lose sight of the forest.Recommend

  • Anz
    May 27, 2016 - 5:46AM

    Beat lightly like in 50 shades of greyRecommend

  • Prada
    May 27, 2016 - 6:02AM

    @Safa: Stop distorting the truth. It is in the book.
    Look up Surat An-Nisa’ [4:34]Recommend

  • someone
    May 27, 2016 - 9:09AM

    Thanks You Jinnah for creating Pakistan and taking these guys with you.Recommend

  • May 27, 2016 - 10:13AM

    I totally disagree with all those elements that are in direct violation of all Pakistani commitments to international conventions and it is violate the Pakistani constitution and the dignity of the state.I condemn the CII stance which is against the interest of Pakistani womenRecommend

  • Mirza Asif Baig
    May 27, 2016 - 11:13AM

    So they write just 4 Lines in 163 Pages Bill? Recommend

  • Hammurabi
    May 27, 2016 - 11:24AM

    @Jaggu:
    Hahaha.Mine was a satire on bigots and narrow minded people.The people who argue on this fashion.I am only a believer of the Laws of nature.Recommend

  • Hammurabi
    May 27, 2016 - 12:44PM

    @Jaggu:
    See the comments of observer .If everyone interprets the words of Allah his own way,then what is true and what is false.The basic message is to beat whether it is mild or severe. Beating is the requirement..Mild beating is of no consequence. It is not the lesson to be learnd by the wife, which Allah demands.So you have to beat her..Also,all the religious scholars of Saudi Arabia, Egypt,agree on the recommendations made by Maulana Shirani,already.I personally disagree with Maulana entirely. But we have to either accept the commands in the holy books or go otherwise.We cant interpret it according to our wishes or common sense.Recommend

  • hammurabi
    May 27, 2016 - 1:48PM

    @Safa:
    Read the Books.Its your wishfull thinking that nothing is there about women beating.Recommend

  • Ahmed Saeed
    May 27, 2016 - 5:44PM

    Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband’s] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance – [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.Recommend

  • Gary tongue
    May 28, 2016 - 12:41AM

    I am most encouraged by the sensible, non-misogynistic comments in this forum.
    It is most unfortunate that most westerners associate Muslims with the stupid views of the CII.
    I wish views like the ones I see here were more prominent and promoted by the Islamic community in the UK.

    GazRecommend

  • danial
    May 28, 2016 - 1:07AM

    This is the protection of women bill or brutality on a women’s bill ?? Kick out all these CII people in to the ocean. These people are making islam peace religious to extremism religious. Islam say give respect to women’s not ” light beating “Recommend

  • ilyas
    May 28, 2016 - 1:24AM

    @Razia:
    Well I like your comment,but also keep miles clear of you mate you are dangerous lady,wouldn’t wana marry you Recommend

  • hammurabi
    May 28, 2016 - 1:04PM

    @Ahmed Saeed:
    Currently there are many wives who are more educated and intelligent than their husbands.Should a highly polished and saner wife shold carry out the unreasonable dictates by a less educated or spoiled husband and refuse illogical demands made by her husband?Recommend

  • Aced It
    May 28, 2016 - 6:05PM

    @Mukhtar Shah: “Please, note that CII is not 20 member’s body. It has 10 members !”

    Okay. Can you tell me please if they are “experts” on Islam/Sharia Law? Recommend

  • hammurabi
    May 29, 2016 - 9:24AM

    @Jaggu:
    Alright. Interpret yourself the following
    “Beat your wives if they don’t obey you”Recommend

  • sana
    May 30, 2016 - 4:29AM

    wow, their Islam will always revolve around the women. No Hope!Recommend

  • Bunny Rabbit
    May 30, 2016 - 2:40PM

    Gosh and what if that wife herself is a black belt in Judo / KArate ? Recommend

  • nabila
    May 30, 2016 - 8:41PM

    can we lightly beat this group of men? got to practice what you preach you amazing leaders of faithRecommend

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