Pakistan

Biden says US 'not the enemy of Islam'

US vice president says "we embrace those who practise that great religion in all our country".

Express/reuters January 12, 2011

ISLAMABAD: US Vice President Joe Biden delivered a bold message of support for key anti-terror ally Pakistan during a trip to Islamabad Wednesday, telling the country that America is "not the enemy of Islam".

After talks with Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani he described as "extremely useful", Biden addressed anti-American sentiment in Pakistan.

"There are even some sections in Pakistani society and elsewhere that suggest American disrespects Islam and its followers," Biden told a joint press conference at the prime minister's residence.

"We are not the enemies of Islam and we embrace those who practise that great religion in all our country," he added.

Biden said that Taliban and al Qaeda elements in the northwest were a threat to Pakistan.

"A close partnership between Pakistan and its people is in the vital self interest of the United States of American and, I would argue... in the vital self interest of Pakistan as well," he told reporters.

The United States wants Pakistan's military to do more to combat extremist and to launch a ground offensive in the border region of North Waziristan, where it says key Taliban leaders reside.

Biden delivered his message before leaving for a key meeting with army chief General Ashfaq Kayani.

"My hope is God willing, if I'm able to stand here next year with you that we're able to point to greater progress and greater resolve and greater prosperity for your people and mine," Biden said, concluding his speech.

Earlier Biden referenced the assassination of Punjab governor Salman Taseer, who was shot dead by his bodyguard last week over his opposition to the strict blasphemy laws.

"Societies that applaud such actions end up being consumed by those actions," said Biden, offering his condolences over the death.

Gilani gave a brief statement ahead of Biden's speech, applauding "very fruitful discussions" with the US vice president.

Earlier, Biden had met President Asif Ali Zardari at the President House in Islamabad.

During the meeting, Biden appreciated Pakistan's role in the war against terrorism and said that the US wants to see a strong democratic government in the country.

He said that the US will help Pakistan boost its economy.

Zardari said that the entire international community should realize Pakistan’s efforts against militancy.

He added that terrorists will not be allowed to impose their agenda on the public.

US vice president arrives in Pakistan for talks

US Vice President Joe Biden arrived in Pakistan on Wednesday for talks with President Asif Ali Zardari, as Washington seeks to pressure Islamabad to pursue militants while avoiding straining the relationship further.

Biden will hold detailed discussions with Pakistan’s top political and military leadership on a wide-range of issues including efforts to seek an end to the nine-year old war in Afghanistan.

“The US vice president will meet President Zardari, Prime Minister Gilani and the Army chief Gen Kayani” according to a foreign office official.

Biden, who travelled to Pakistan after two days in Afghanistan, said on Tuesday in Kabul that more support was needed from Pakistan if Washington was to continue efforts to control insurgents as it begins to withdraw its forces.

The operation against the Haqqani Network, believed to be based in North Waziristan, will also come up for discussions.

Despite intense US pressure, Pakistan has made it clear that it will alone decide the timing of the military offensive. “The US understands that we cannot open too many fronts at this stage,” said a security official.

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Sulaiman Malik | 13 years ago | Reply Well, my last comment didnt appear here and look at what they did to Freeha's comment. @Aamna Taseer: I'm glad you finally got to the point. Why do you sit behind the screen and wait for others to come to the rescue? People are teaching, flood relief and political activism while you sit and wait for others to come to help. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DujORmN3Sk

Aamna Taseer | 13 years ago | Reply @Sulaiman Malik- I am thrilled beyond belief that you have identified the corruption in our country is due to the corruption in both govt and law enforcement agencies. but what has the "educated class" done and talk is cheap! There are very few young educated people who are willing to go into public service to serve their country. The corrupt political officials will thrive as they seem to be doing while we all moan & groan. Does the "educated class" have any kind of a volunteer civilian national security force as powerful, as strong as a volunteer corps focused on education for the poor, clean health care and senior issues in areas other than the big cities? where young educated men and women give a year of their life to change the hearts and minds of the poor and down trodden? We can do fancy and cutesy pages on social networking sites and get a million signatures but that only adds to a minuscule of public awareness. I think the time would be better spent than worrying about some US marines in Islamabad. The Taliban HAS been accepted as the part of the Pakistan scenery. Look around you they are freely traveling all over the country and they seem to be successful in all their terrorist acts and that alone Pakistan cannot seem to keep them in control but when others offer help our conspiracy and hate genes seem to surface. Also I do not think Express Tribune is in a censor mode, I see a fresh, bold series of views published on a regular basis, some I agree with and others I do not this is an interesting and broad spectrum forum that we should all be grateful to be a part of.

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Burger Boy | 13 years ago | Reply Express Tribune seems to have serious problems with allowing us conservative Pakistanis to post. They have absolutely no problem with the hysterical anti Pakistan comments made by Indians on this forum, but anybody on the conservative side seems to be unwelcome. So far most of my posts have been heavily edited and many haven't even made it past the "moderation" stage though there is nothing in the content that should be censored except a point of view that the editors of this paper likely disagree with.

henry buehler | 13 years ago | Reply The 2048 Project's mission is to educate students and the public about the evolution of human rights, and to provide a process to draft an International Bill of Rights that will be enforceable in the courts of all countries by the year 2048, the 100th anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. http://www.2048.berkeley.edu/ KIRK BOYD HAPPY MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY! Mon, 01/17/2011 - 23:56 — kboyd Greetings all, Happy Martin Luther King Day! I always feel good on this day because the through the 2048 Project, we aren't just celebrating the day, and his life, but we are actually working every day, day in and day out, to make King's vision part of our daily lives and the lives of people in all countries. People typically think of King is a great American hero, and he was, but let us also remember that King was committed to all people in all countries, just like Eleanor Roosevelt. This is one of the most endearing and enduring aspects of his teaching. Let's not forget! In the same way that Franklin Roosevelt believed that the Four Freedoms applied to "everyone in the world" so too does our draft International Bill of Rights. Here's a good quote along these lines that I keep on my phone. I'd like to repeat here is part of today's tribute: "I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. I believe that what self-centered men have torn down, other centered men can build up." So for today please think of the "people everywhere," and then check out our latest version of our draft International Bill of Rights, because it applies to "people's everywhere." Long live Dr. Martin Luther King!

Sulaiman Malik | 13 years ago | Reply @Aamna Taseer: There are American marines in Islamabad too. Now we are not going to get scared of violence and stop writing facts. The mental kooks will stay what they are but we are educated enough to know better. They will be violent regardless of whether we choose the speak the truth or not. Besides most of them are probably not reading Tribune online :) I'm not satisfied with both the drone violence and the domestic extremists' incitement to violence. We have to address both the issues, not only one. The corruption in our country is due to the corruption in both govt and law enforcement agencies. So if the ones responsible for enforcing the law are corrupt than nothing will change. What do you mean you all have accepted Taliban? Were you not here in the past 3 decades when ISI and CIA were setting them up? Did you ever protest or write against that? I accept responsibility, am willing to protest on the street against both kinds of violence, against corruption and inflation. Are you going to join us or just sit there and criticize? http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=115029968558179

Aamna Taseer | 13 years ago | Reply @Sulaiman Malik - I did not realize that burger boy had called in his fan base of the Hate America crowd to assist him in making his case. "There are American troops in Balochistan" statements like that are incendiary words that ignite mental kooks violence and to harm anyone resembling an American. Are you not satisfied that violence against your own fellow men is on an alarming increase? Forget American involvement and look at a simple example; India & Pakistan created the same year and look at the strides where India is and what awful standing Pakistan has achieved. The is wide flowing corruption, nepotism, minorities are living in fear, religious intolerance these are not propaganda facts this is reality. As these burdens are not sufficient the poor citizens have to live with daily violence in schools and mosques and religious gatherings. As long as Pakistanis refuse to take personal responsibly there is NO HOPE for it to succeed. As you all have accepted the Taliban into the fabric of your society be prepared to fall through the slippery slope of despair,

Freeha Shaukat | 13 years ago | Reply We all give way too much importance to the US, which is trying but failing to pursue its own self interest. We should get it together ourselves even if external forces are to blame and focus only on Pakistan, only once we learn to tolerate ourselves can we be a proud and vibrant member of the International community. We are stuck between a the Devil and the deep blue sea. Neither the US or taliban actions in this country can be endorsed or commended. we should focus on positive things within. http://citizensfordemocracy.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/request-for-suo-moto-action-against-vigilantism-incitement-to-violence/ http://www.amanittehad.com/petition/?sign=petition http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV0wGZLM7gg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZPTRrPg4bY www.insaf.pk Get with it.

Freeha Shaukat | 13 years ago | Reply Express Tribune beware cutting crucial words out of comments, I was only agreeing with burger boy, and my comment said "Burger boy, you speak the truth"

Freeha Shaukat | 13 years ago | Reply Burger boy you speak the Truth.

Sulaiman Malik | 13 years ago | Reply @Aamna Taseer: Where did burger boy incite anyone to violence?? Forget the page number on your propaganda book and paste the post where he did that. @Freeha: who do u agree with?

Freeha Shaukat | 13 years ago | Reply you speak the truth.

henry buehler | 13 years ago | Reply The Trial Of Henry Kissinger By Christopher Hitchens paper back page 36 second paragraph For example in the preparations for the invasion of Cambodia in 1970, Kissinger was caught between the views of his staff - several who resigned in protest when the invasion began - and his need to please his President. His President listened more tohis two criminal associates _ John Mitchall and Bebe Rebozo - then he did his Secretaries of State and Defense, William Rodgers and Melvin Laird, both of whom were highly skeptical about widening the war. On one especially charming occasion, a drunken Nixon telephoned Kissinger to discuss the invasion plans. He put Bebe Rebozo on the line. "The President wants you to know if this doesn't work, Henry, it's your ass.' 'Ain't that right, Bebe?' slurred the Commander in Chief Our war with Laos was illegal I guess it helps that you are allowed to sell onions. I would be more concerned about my electricity being shut off for hours a day That the gas has been shut off then some one getting shot at unless I was the one getting shot at. I am still concerned about the people in Iraq having water. water issues kill more people then war.. Here in The U.S. our homes are being scraped from the land I have been ready to move and hope I will be allowed to farm.

Aamna Taseer | 13 years ago | Reply @ @ Burger Boy: Your statement of American troops flooding Baluchistan is a crude statement without any factual data to back it up. The Pakistani Taliban with its murder-mafia the ISI is probably thrilled that it has you & others to cover for it heinous acts of murder and inciting religious violence and promoting an atmosphere of violence and then blaming the US so it can remove the spotlight from its own crude actions against the general population. Sir, do spend your time in defining the true villains of Pakistan and stop with this spewing of hate against the US to cover for your blood-thirsty brothers that continue to harm you.

Peace On Earth | 13 years ago | Reply @ Burger Boy: I hate having to say this as I do not know you, but judging by your comments you and people with similar views such as yours are exactly the reasons Pakistan and its youths are teetering on a very fine line towards radicalism. First, the issue of drone attacks is a serious one, but why blame the USA? The Pakistani Border forces refuse to wage war against extremists in the tribal areas because of the tremendous power of the mullahs. Mullahs have declared fatwa after fatwa chastising Pakistani soldiers for fighting against the Taliban and Al-Qadea. Due to this, the USA has no choice but to chase terrorists who unfortunately wind up in Pakistan and hide like cowards among the people. You blame America? Why not blame the terrorists and the Pakistani Taliban who cower behind civilians and use them as human shields. At least American soldiers don't hide behind civilians like little girls and shoot their weapons! American troops in Balochistan, are you joking? Have you been there yourself? Do you see American soldiers walking up and down the streets of Quetta? I will answer these questions and that answer is NO! People like you are quick to lambaste the West for what it is doing. Yes, it has made mistakes but the bigger mistake has been made by Pakistan as well. The politicians in both of these countries are to blame. Who do you think has been funding and training the Taliban which wrecks havoc on our society today? It is the Pakistani ISI and its Wahhabi supporters. Stop reading conspiracy theories and try to do what you can to end the hate. Also, it is much easier to spit lies behind the screen of a computer. People like you do not know what the ground realities are. Stop the hate... God Bless

Eram Ali | 13 years ago | Reply @Burger Boy-There are American troops in Balochistan, American drones killing our civilians, American “advisors” dictating our political process, American intelligence officials working over time to eradicate our nuclear infrastructure which is our prized national asset, American agencies have literally thousands of our people on their payroll to act as their fifth columnists. Is there a subscription site where I can sign up to to get direct information of the "fifth column" I think US homeland security would be entirely thrilled that our tax dollar are finally working !

Nilofar Khan | 13 years ago | Reply @Burger Boy There would be NO American troops in Balochistan or American drones killing our civilians, American “advisers” dictating our political process, American intelligence officials working over time to eradicate our nuclear infrastructure which is our "so called" prized national asset, or for American agencies to have literally thousands of our people on their payroll to act as their fifth columnists if we were doing the right thing and taking care of business or keeping our hose clean.I think you refuse to get it that we have failed and have no choice at this point. I live in the same country as you and I DO NOT see anyway or trace that you claim is Publicly Available evidence hat clearly demonstrates that America is at war with us. May be I am reading the wrong conspiracy magazines! I guess we belong to two different camps of thinking you have joined a defeatist..conspiratorial..blame others and I refuse to accept those foolish concepts I think we need to rethink who are our friends and who are giving us lip service while working against us.

Burger Boy | 13 years ago | Reply @ Nilofar There are American troops in Balochistan, American drones killing our civilians, American "advisors" dictating our political process, American intelligence officials working over time to eradicate our nuclear infrastructure which is our prized national asset, American agencies have literally thousands of our people on their payroll to act as their fifth columnists....America is pressuring our armed forces and politicians to wage war on different parts of the country, they are getting our government to censor stories that go against American interests, they have kidnapped thousands of people from Pakistan who have disappeared, their influential magazines like Army Times publish maps of our country broken up into pieces, they have pressured our government into allowing thousands of Americans access into our country without any of the regular processes to protect us...there is so much PUBLICLY AVAILABLE evidence that clearly demonstrates that America is at war with us. You are a complete fool to argue otherwise.....slavery is over and you are embarrassing yourself with this ridiculous display of 'chamchageeri'...

henry buehler | 13 years ago | Reply http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=24372&Cat=9&dt=1%2F7%2F2011&smsss=email&atxt=4d27a04bb2b3ded2%2C0 The United States was never, and is not, an enemy of Pakistan. But the US political, military and intelligence thrust in Afghanistan over eight years has decidedly placed the US on the side of our enemies. This is a US choice, not a compulsion. From day one, Washington chose to turn Kabul into the new hub of anti-Pakistanism in the region. A lot of evidence suggests a CIA role in tolerating and exacerbating anti-Pakistan insurgencies along our Afghan border. Today all anti-Pakistan terrorists take refuge in US-controlled Afghanistan. American political engineering inside Islamabad [‘Exhibit A: the crumbling coalition government’] is motivated by an overriding key objective: downsizing the Pakistani military and forcing the nation to accept Indian regional hegemony. If Pakistan does not accept this it will be punished.

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Nilofar Khan | 13 years ago | Reply @Burger Boy....your comments...they have declared war on us displays a naive, immature view that has been brainwashed by the fringe element of hate-America crowd. if I had a crystal ball to see the future I might have sided with the British as I see the condition of a Pakistan besieged by corruption, violence and religious intolerance. Unlike you I can still love my country Pakistan and identify its cracks and faults. I refuse to accept that all the blame for our country in crisis is the fault of outside intervention and we Muslims are our worst enemies. I refuse to accept that countries with a Muslim majority have our best interest at heart and the sooner we accept this simple fact we can heal to a road of recovery. Foreign investment in the country dropped 15 per cent in six months (July-December) of the current financial year 2010-11 as domestic and international economic slowdown and security fears hampered the flow of money to productive channels that drive the economy - who do you think is responsible? Twenty-one people have been killed and several have been injured in target killing incidents in Karachi does this make for a safe environment for our people and children to survive? Inferiority complex does not define itself by those who refuse to accept reality.

Burger Boy | 13 years ago | Reply Nilofar....your comments smack of an inferiority complex. You should not apologize for Pakistani disdain of America...they have declared war on us despite the fact that we supported them in this "War on Terror" I suspect you would have sided with the British against the majority during colonial times. Peggy....Pakistanis don't hate Americans...we hate the American govt and your establishment elite who are waging war not only against us but Muslims in general. If you can't see that...I suggest you spend more time reading and less time posting.

Aamir+Ali | 13 years ago | Reply The US seeks to expand its interests and believes in freedom of religion. There are over a thousand mosques in the US and they don't get shot at or blown up regularly, like in Pakistan.

Peggy Gordon | 13 years ago | Reply @Nilofar I appreciate your views. While I agree that we do have problems with the likes of conservatives, majority of our people wish well for Pakistan and muslims all over the world. Even after 9/11 there has been no backlash against the muslims with the exception of stray incidents. I don't support many of the policies of our government like the Vietnam or Iraq war but do support the quest against Bin Laden and other terrorists who have harmed our country. Why can't we have a world of peacecul co-existence. Wish you and all the peace loving people the very best!

Henry buehler | 13 years ago | Reply I have heard of eletrical power cut back to hours a day and shortage of natural gas in Pakistan. .

Nilofar Khan | 13 years ago | Reply @Peggy Gordon- I do apologize for folks like @YK that live on the fringe of constant conspiracy and mental illness that borders of the hate-America crowd. On the other hand of the coin in America too has its quota of the fringe element that is fueled by FOXnews and other conservative winggnuts like Rush Limbaugh & Sarah Palin. America was divided of building the mosque at the site which was NO WAY close to the the site. Like the different voices in Pakistan the American people were divided on the issue and there were Muslims in many states that were treated with hostility and anger which was counter balanced by others who strongly supported the mosque and Muslims. Compared to America, Pakistan is new in its path to find democracy, we are a nation that is struggling to enter the elder world of nations. When the British left the partition, it left the scars and wounds that have left India and Pakistan biting at each other. The attempt by BOTH countries to resolve the issues that divide us so that combined India & Pakistan can enjoy the success of the economic revolution for its people. President Obama & Secretary Clinton together have offered more hope and support to us than any other previous administration. But as it is our nature the people of Pakistan are suspicious of any one and arguments can be made on both sides about past policies. I know from my heart that President Obama has the strongest feelings for Pakistan in fact he is the first American President that even pronounces - PAKISTAN correctly ! It is a slow process we in Pakistan have to clean our own house, foreign entities do not want to invest in the young people of Pakistan because we have some of the most educated and talented resources available but because of the violence we ALLOW to permeate. We can blame foreign sources for the ills in our society but at the same time we need to do serious soul searching every one of us Pakistanis to see how we can solve to resolve problems that plague us.

The Only Normal Person Here. | 13 years ago | Reply Biden sahib, if you talk like this, how will our politicians do politics then?

Mulla Toofhan | 13 years ago | Reply @ Mehsud, So Biden is then financing the Talibans, and the terrorist group in Pakistan to Kill muslims in Mosque, in prayers, in schools, in Hospitals, in Markets etc. NO It is one of your brotherly. Ummah countries. I suggest you get your head out of that dark Place and start seeing the real world!!!!

Burger Boy | 13 years ago | Reply When the British colonized these lands there was always a class of (local) people that acted as their servant apologists. In the US among slaves there were always a few selected to work in the house because they had proved their loyalty to their master by spying/informing on the others slaves on the master's behalf. These slaves were called "House Niggers". Today these lands are virtual American colonies and we have an abundance of house niggers among us.

G.Din | 13 years ago | Reply @Mehsud "Biden is on mission to see more blood of the Muslim Ummah. American wants to wage war between the Muslims so that a muslim will kill another for the sake of dollar………" America is being foolish by offering dollars for "waging wars between Muslims"(according to you). All it has to do is to stand aside and watch "wars between Muslims" for the heck of it. Remember Iran-Iraq war? Ten million Muslims slaughtered each other for the privilege to enter "Bahisht" from BOTH sides, as "Shuhada"!!!! @Naeem Siddiqui, Australia to Peggy Gordon "India WILL NOT attack Pakistan if there are 100s of attack similar to mumbai, mind it!" All Peggy said was "India has a complete right to attack the terrorists if there is another attack on them like the Bombay massacare. " That India does have but whether India does retaliate or not, we will have to see. I suggest, don't bet on your instincts, Naeem!

Peggy Gordon | 13 years ago | Reply @YK I don't think your comments are even worth responding to but I still will. It is people like you who are a disgrace to your country. You dont even know who is your true friend or enemy since you have been brainwashed from your childhood in your madrassas about how America is against Islam. WE ARE NOT! Muslims live more peacefully in our country than yours without having to worry about being killed by a fellow suicide bomber. Ours is a country that will allow mosques to be built next to the 9/11 disaster site, can you even think of building a temple next to the place if it was hypothetically destroyed by hindus? As far as India is concerned, yes our jobs are going to them because they deserve it not because we like them. If you had the skills or expertise, it could have gone to you but for your madrassa education which teaches you to 'kill' and not 'live or let live'. The Islam you follow is so different than what I was given to understand when I visited your country in the 90's. In your version of Islam, the only peace Islam offers is the silence after all opposing voices of truth have been massacared.

Raj | 13 years ago | Reply @Sharjeel+Khan....Absolutely you are right..we ( people from the sub continent ) are two faced and want best of the both worlds. But one thing is there Indians never bashed USA even when USA were pro Pakistan and India and Indians had to contend with Russian friendship.

sharjeel+khan | 13 years ago | Reply @Raj correct. but unfortunately, this is also 100 % true for indian people,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,isnt it?

mohammed+abbasi | 13 years ago | Reply No the Americans that I know are not the enemy of Muslims or Islam - but its seriously difficult to say that with a straight face and tell it to the public when Anti-Muslim fanatics like Sarah Palin, Pat Robertson can abuse, vilify Muslims and Islam without question on the US media.... then again Fox News - that is certainly not-Muslim friendly is it? May its time the United States withdrew from Afghanistan to fight its own extremists and terrorists - the Tea Party 'Tealiban'!

Freeha Shaukat | 13 years ago | Reply Actions speak louder than words.

G.Khan | 13 years ago | Reply @Raj LOL.. Looks like you had some bad experience with some Molvi. Man. I am really sorry for you. I agree with you that if America issues green card to Pakistanis , 80 percent will go to US. Well, if the same offer is given to India, I think the entire nation will migrate.LOL FYI The disagreements are not with American People , Its just a tiny minority called "The Govt" and its policies which most of the times do not reflect the ordinay's American's viewpoint. Whose view point they reflect and why? I think it's a long debate and you do know about it I suppose.

YK | 13 years ago | Reply @Peggy Gordon, you can only win hearts and support of Pakistani people once you stop supporting terrorism activities in Pakistan, which is happening in many different forms i.e. by directly supporting terrorist activities in western Pakistan (by providing them ammunition and arms via Afghanistan), by supporting terror activities in Baluchistan province with the help of India and by mainly supporting dictators in Pakistan so that you can directly use them against Pakistani people and for your other evil motives, like war in Afghanistan. Being wise and vigilant American (if you are), we thought you must have learn t some lesson from the wars which you have waged against the innocent people of Iraq and Afghanistan and now indirectly in Pakistan but you still look dumb. I quote your words "we are not pitting moslems against moslems, we will attack and whack anyone who propagates terrorism in our country and so will any other country in the world including India", first of all word is Muslims not moslems, which is used by Americans against Muslims in all over the world, secondly you have used India in your statement, they may be of great importance to you as they subsidies jobs in your country but we even do not even count them in our books they know us very well, if they want to attack they are welcome. coming to your other point "we will attack and whack anyone who propagates terrorism in our country " you even could not whack Afghanistan in last 10 years and are still bound in Kabul, Presidential Palace then how would you whack any other country, you are using Pakistan as escape goat for respectful exit from Afghanistan, you have lost this war. Another point, last but not least, talking about your help to Pakistan, we really appreciate your help in our country but don't u forget that Pakistan economy has suffered more than $42 billions in last 6 to 7 years by just fighting your so called war against terrorism (mainly Muslims) we have suffered more than 10 thousand casualties in this your war which includes nearly 4000 army personals (more then your casualties in Afghanistan including NATO) and still you are ungrateful to us.

Naeem Siddiqui,Australia | 13 years ago | Reply Peggy Gordon, India WILL NOT attack Pakistan if there are 100s of attack similar to mumbai, mind it! Otherwise I agreee with rest of your comment :)

Naeem Siddiqui,Australia | 13 years ago | Reply US doesn't need to be the enemy of Islam, Islam already have worst enemies in form of Molvis in our country.

Raj | 13 years ago | Reply I have read the comments by Pakistanis about America on this board. Here are my two cents. If America issues Green Cards to all the Pakistanis, more than 80 percent will prefer to move to America.

Nilofar Khan | 13 years ago | Reply I agree with @Peace On Earth - We Pakistanis are our own worst enemy, the poisonous posts of anti_American sentiment is a perfect example if you ask these posters name FIVE things you have done in your life time to improve the stature of Pakistan or for your fellow citizens. The answer will surprise many we are becoming the nation of blame as it is popular to demean nations that are trying to help PAKISTAN from failing then trying to help ourselves.

Syed A. Mateen | 13 years ago | Reply We do not have a position of Vice President in Pakistan; otherwise VP of Pakistan should have reciprocated the trip of US Vice President Mr. Joe Biden by visiting USA.

Peggy Gordon | 13 years ago | Reply I don't understand the hatred you guys have against us Americans. Ever since your independence we have helped and aided you with millions of dollars and still doing. No other country has helped you as much, not even China. Even during the recent floods, our aid has been the largest (no comparison to china). Its your own leaders & policies that are corrupt - blame them and not us. Also, we are not pitting moslems against moslems, we will attack and whack anyone who propagates terrorism in our country and so will any other country in the world including India. India has a complete right to attack the terrorists if there is another attack on them like the Bombay massacare. I hate to say this but Pakistan will cease to exist as a nation if they don't annihilate terrorism in their country.

Fedup | 13 years ago | Reply U are right Mr Biden you are not the enemy of Islam we have become enemies of islam by projecting ourselves as the caretakers of Islam . Whts wrong with our people why are we giving other people chance to talk about us . We today stand divided as a Muslim in a Islamic state . I wish just for once lets be together as a Pakistani not as a muslim or christian or hindu or sikh , outside world is gone take advantage of our situation and it will be too late for us all to realise it before something happens . Allah ke wastey Jago Pakistanio

Peace On Earth | 13 years ago | Reply Reading the comments on here further proves that most Pakistanis (at least those who have posted grammatically incoherent sentences) are out of touch with reality. Joe Biden was merely suggesting that the USA is NOT the enemy of Islam and was just trying to reach across the aisle. Unlike the mullahs in our country who do nothing productive and instead, waste there time and energy on denouncing America. Really, is that what Islam is about or is that the Pakistani version of Islam? Islam teaches compassion, even in the face of adversity. It teaches us to forgive transgressors and to respect one another, even those who do not return the same level of respect to you. Have you folks stopped to think even one bit about how much the Pakistani governments in the past has made the Afghan people suffer? Tell me, who was the one that secretly armed and supported the Taliban? Who used the Taliban has a pawn so that the Afghan government would be pro-Pakistani and not anything but? It saddens me to the level that Pakistanis have stooped to these days. They have forgotten what it means to be a citizen of the world. For those who scream out against America. At least in America a girl is not forced to marry a man three times her age. At least in America a woman is not forced to have twenty children and than promptly cast out of the house. Let's worry about our own problems and seek out the best solutions instead of treading on the past towards wickedness! Love your fellow brethren, your neighbors, and this beautiful world we live in instead of spewing hateful words at one another. God Bless...

Anonymouse | 13 years ago | Reply I wonder why they even bother with the lies.....the US does not want any country to adapt Shariah or become and "Islamic" country, particularly if it has any weapons capabilities. In our country the US is trying to secularize it and is supporting all kinds of groups that are working towards that cause. They are always busy PUBLICLY AND OPENLY trying to eradicate our way of life and they believe that we'll be stupid enough to believe their lies?

Noor Lodi | 13 years ago | Reply Why hate US? US like any other country will mostly look out for its interest. We have an opportunity to level-head with American's and negotiate fro, the position of strength. What they need from us is of more value then what we need from them. Only if we can realize this we can turn the tables and use them to our advantage. They have a lot of good to offer. Learn from them. There schools and colleges are amazing. Rather then buying F16's and other weapons that we will never fire, we need to have them build world class colleges and schools in Pakistan directly linked with the the like of MIT's, Stanfords and Berkeley's of the world.

Mehsud | 13 years ago | Reply "Biden on mission to engage Muslim against Muslim" Biden is here in Pakistan, the front line foe of america in the war on terror. Biden want to see a pitch battle between the foot-soldiers of chief of army staff general Ishfaq Pervaiz Kiyani and former head of ISI and Chief of Army staff of Taliban army Khalifa Jalaludin Haqqani in north wazirisan. Biden is on mission to see more blood of the Muslim Ummah. American wants to wage war between the Muslims so that a muslim will kill another for the sake of dollar.........

Humanity | 13 years ago | Reply People lashing out as if US is the root of all their problems. The real root of the problems is within. Unless you acknowledge your own failings nothing will change. The country is already teetering at the brink of a hellish abyss. You denial and childish discourse only shows self loathing and despondency. Let's see how you plan to become your own masters !!

Mulla Toofhan | 13 years ago | Reply @ Anoop, I hate to agree but you are correct, Not all Muslims but few branch of muslims are giving a bad name to all. What they don't realize is that it comes with a heavy price tag that the muslims can ill afford.

Anoop | 13 years ago | Reply US is not the enemy of Islam but Pakistan definitely is. Look at how Pakistanis have tarnished the Image of Islam.

Sara | 13 years ago | Reply Why RED CARPET. i pray for that day when these americans will be welcomed with SHOE GARLANDS. Fight ur war by ur self

Random | 13 years ago | Reply US isnt the enemy of Islam, Pakistan is.

aMan | 13 years ago | Reply Don't believe anything until it's officially denied. :)

Timorov | 13 years ago | Reply I think its very interesting that no important leader (not even the Foreign Minister) is there to receive Biden - such a cold shoulder would have been unthinkable even a few months ago (remember when Richard Boucher on his first visit to Zardari's new govt was given the Nihan-e-Qaud-e-Azam). I think Kayani's reticence has brought the US policy in the region to its knees, which is why the US is offering Pakistan promise of new aid in return for helping it get out of the region.

Pakistani57 | 13 years ago | Reply Biden says US 'not the enemy of Islam' but cannot comment if US is enemy of Muslims lol

Maryam | 13 years ago | Reply Oh wise and generous leader, lead us people into the light with your corrupt, "enlightened" values..

@@ | 13 years ago | Reply Grow Up guys ... First try to put together at least one simple task/plan for your beloved Country and if you are able to do that then only you will be your own masters. So don't beat around the bush...Pakistani people has left this vacuum that's why some force will fulfill that space ... so why complain....If you don't want red carpets or these foreigners coming & welcomed like this on Pakiland then get up and fill that vacuum of doing something good/planning & strategy for our Country in terms for departments etc. And believe you me I am not Pro-America or Anti-America, in fact, I am just PRO-PAKISTANI :)

Afzal Rahim Khan Yusufzai | 13 years ago | Reply The first question that would be asked "Hey! did you brought Dollars...we mean $ "

Mulla Toofhan | 13 years ago | Reply The Archangel has descended upon our Leaders with the Lords commandment. O Master!!!! "So it is written and So it shall be Done"

ammal | 13 years ago | Reply our leaders must be there to welcome their jack of all master for none

Hamza Malik | 13 years ago | Reply All hail Master Biden! Correct?

zaigham16 | 13 years ago | Reply where are gillani and zardari? why weren't their sorry §$%&# present to welcome our master...

Yousuf | 13 years ago | Reply Why the red carpet?

Malik | 13 years ago | Reply Welcome sir! I mean 'master' !

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