Veena Malik does not represent me

Published: December 27, 2010

The writer is a sub-editor on the national desk at The Express Tribune zainab.imam@tribune.com.pk

Much has been made about Veena Malik’s “behaviour” in the Bigg Boss House from the twin flirtations she struck to the short clothes she wore. To me, this spells Veena’s victory. Out of 14 housemates — including a global star, Bollywood actors and Bhojpuri film industry’s Shahrukh Khan — Veena managed to make an impression.

While she was busy inside, the world outside was delirious with anger: how dare a Muslim, Pakistani woman conduct herself like this in, horror of horrors, India! The other side was also quick to retort: Veena is representing the ‘modern woman’ of Pakistan. For good measure, they threw in a comment or two about people completely irrelevant to the discussion such as, why aren’t Pakistani, Muslim men criticised for their behaviour while in India? And the answer to that could be that perhaps because we have yet to read about a similar controversy regarding, say, Atif Aslam, Rahat Fateh Ali Khan or Ali Zafar.

As for me, I am neither the ‘moral brigade’ and nor am I part of the ‘immoral brigade’, so to speak. But I am the modern Pakistani woman, the girl who Veena was supposedly representing.

As I observed everything and listened to arguments from both sides, I found one essential thing missing from both arguments: Veena Malik does not represent me. I do not relate to her and our similarity ends where it begins: like me, she is a woman, a Pakistani, a Muslim and she wears heels. And for some women, the latter two don’t hold either.

While I appreciated Veena at some point, especially for the proper Urdu she spoke, she is insignificant because there are much better rolemodels out there, people who I can actually relate to and look up to.

One such woman is Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy. An award-winning filmmaker, Sharmeen has worked with refugees, women’s advocate groups and human rights defenders in over ten countries. (More detail about her work can be found on her website.) Another woman who represents a woman like me is South Asia’s fastest woman — Naseem Hameed. A resident of a locality in Karachi populated by middle-income families, Naseem started her sporting career in school and was eventually spotted by army coaches. The rest is, as they say, history, with her winning a gold medal at the last SAF Games.

Apart from individuals, the modern Pakistani woman is also lucky to have a whole team of good rolemodels. One is referring to the Pakistan women’s national cricket team which recently won a gold medal at the Asian Games.

To me, Veena Malik’s dresses, men and stilettos don’t matter because she does not represent me. The modern Pakistani woman goes out wearing whatever she wants — baggy pants or running shoes — and carrying whatever she wants — a tote or a camera bag. The modern Pakistani woman is a success story who does not flirt with men to show to the rest of the world that she is good and has potential.

I am a modern Pakistani woman who has a job, pays her taxes and drives around town. And I don’t need a Veena Malik to represent me — not in India, not anywhere in the world.

Published in The Express Tribune, December 28th, 2010.

Reader Comments (112)

  • Dec 27, 2010 - 10:58PM

    I like.

    What irked me the most is that her behaviour related to the men was called ‘modern Pakistani woman’ behaviour. Total bull. I was ashamed to have her representing Pakistan at all. We have plenty of ‘modern Pakistani women’ in our media, VJs (not Mathira!) TV actors and the like, and we had to get stuck with that, that thing representing Pakistan. Just what we needed.Recommend

  • m.Kh
    Dec 27, 2010 - 11:48PM

    If you get a chance to be in that house won’t you take it? Many of her actions ofcourse were not some thing that can make any one proud. But may be it was because she experienced new freedom far away from her normal social sorroundings and went overboard? Recommend

  • Iqbal Hasan
    Dec 27, 2010 - 11:51PM

    To each his own. I totally agree with you, she doesnt represent anyone else except for herself. And to all those who point fingers at her, lets deal with our Lollywood/(Pushto film) industry and plus size actresses first before pointing out her actions in India. To me, i don’t see how she was any different than what she was here in her own country. She wore such clothes on morning shows, she talked the way she talked. The minute she walked out of Pakistan’s parameters people start objecting.

    As i said, let her be. Let’s deal with bigger problems first, there are thousands of militants and terrorists and corrupt officials who’re misrepresenting Pakistan. Veena wearing small clothes is trivial in comparison.Recommend

  • ali
    Dec 28, 2010 - 12:22AM

    she did not go there to represent you or any pakistani……and neither has she claimed so. she represented herself. what she did was her own actions as an indiviidual.

    she was just part of a stupid show. for Gods sake stop attaching so much value to this affair or to yourself. Recommend

  • Dec 28, 2010 - 12:31AM

    I fail to understand that why’re we giving Veena Malik so importance that we’re wasting so much paper, ink and web-space on writing about her?

    I don’t know if this is true or not, but i’ve heard that Veena Malik is not Muslim, she belongs to christian community, even if she is Muslim, I don’t think that one should create hue and cry about any one’s individual’s deed.
    She was there in individual’s capacity, she wasn’t send there or sponsored by Pakistani authorities, so please don’t claim that she was representing PAKISTAN there, she was not, certainly NOT.
    btw, she is at least better than blood sucking, corrupt politicians and terrorists who are spoiling the real image of Islam. at least she is not harming any one.
    its her life, and she has all the right to choose the way of living it.Recommend

  • UmEr
    Dec 28, 2010 - 12:33AM

    Thank GOD :DRecommend

  • Noor
    Dec 28, 2010 - 12:38AM

    Scintillating piece. Bravo!

    I specially loved the “immoral brigade” part. You are gonna stir some reaction from them Miss Zainab :-)Recommend

  • amna javed
    Dec 28, 2010 - 12:40AM

    The modern Pakistani woman also has a very strong self-esteem, something that Veena has no concept of. Maybe she thinks that playing up to Salman Khan and scanty dressing makes her look bold and relevant, but all it shows to me is that she has no repect for herself. Recommend

  • Dec 28, 2010 - 12:42AM

    Guess what, unfortunately most of the representatives we have at the moment, be it in politics, religious affairs, media platform, technology communities don’t actually deserve representing this country. The Irony is our real picture have never been portrayed by these so called “representatives” because they lack the real point that their each and act isn’t their individual’s instead representing the whole nation.
    I am second to you for the names who could be potential candidates for our representatives but this Veena Malik. Let choose the appropriate people who actually represents this nation which is hard working, who have won 5 world cup at a time and so on.Recommend

  • Zaki
    Dec 28, 2010 - 12:44AM

    Finally, now this truly can be aptly described as a fine piece of aesthetic journalism in which the author’s opinion is not based on hate or blind defence but on positivity. Veena Malik has always been cheap, the real heroes and role models for the women of Pakistan are those who dared to dream big, and they did it!

    Kudos to the authro :)Recommend

  • rizwan
    Dec 28, 2010 - 12:47AM

    i second ali…
    Tribune shud change this author..she has no idea..Recommend

  • sana moneer
    Dec 28, 2010 - 12:48AM

    @ ali
    agreed! Recommend

  • Amna
    Dec 28, 2010 - 12:52AM

    @ali: Exactly, I totally agree. Who ever said she was representing us?

    Why are we taking credit for her actions? And why is she such a big deal….gosh the Veena drama is way overdone…her actions are embarrassing at the most….for herself that is. She is clearly trying to hard too be a “bold” woman. Recommend

  • Kashif
    Dec 28, 2010 - 12:54AM

    Ahan,… watever meera does it’s none of your business . why you watch big boss or meera if you don’t like her. what r u doing to represent this country?Recommend

  • Raza
    Dec 28, 2010 - 12:56AM

    THIS IS TOTALLY A POPULARITY STUNT OF “VEENA FOR SHOWING HERSELF TO THE DIRECTORS OF BOLLYWOOD. FORTUNATENESS IS THAT, SHE HAS BEEN BIT SUCCEED
    VEENA malik is a character that was not so much popular in pakistan before her atachment with a cricket star Asif. the problem with our actresses is that , they have adopted a method of vulgarity to famous them self, no matter in which kind of sense or word. this doesn’t happened first time . it had also happened when film star “meera” did a same thing with a same guy few years back.
    actually they are foolish because they dont want to utilize theirselfs. our actresses can do something good but unfortunatily these womens are has been paralyze from the state of mind. Recommend

  • Ali
    Dec 28, 2010 - 12:58AM

    An irrelevant argument.

    How many of the other so called celebrities on the show were expected to be role models for anyone?

    Veena was representing herself like any other celebrity does and if someone has a problem seeing her on TV, change the channel!

    And I would expect the modern dynamic independent woman of the 21st century to be a little less judgmental. Recommend

  • Dec 28, 2010 - 1:05AM

    btw, miss Zainab Imam
    did she ever claim that she is representing YOU? or any one?
    or you just assumed it that she was there to represent you? how will you now differentiate yourslef with hypocrite MULLAs who always think that everything happening in west is a SAZISH against Islam? Recommend

  • Umayr Masud
    Dec 28, 2010 - 1:07AM

    Well since you are the modern woman that we should have represented around in the media can we please somehow answer this shoddy piece of journalism

    http://video.nytimes.com/video/2010/12/26/world/1248069485531/women-who-work-struggling-to-provide.htmlRecommend

  • Dec 28, 2010 - 1:07AM

    Good article, those who’re saying that she was’nt representing PAkistan should realize India is pretty much isolated like the world regarding info. about arts, music and culture in Pakistan, and most seeing PAkistan as an enemy don’t tend to follow them also. For them she was to a certain extent PAkistan[it makes me cringe to say this]
    @m.kh This is such a laughable argument that she saw so much “freedom” there that she kinda went “berserk”. Buddy you need to get out of your room a lot more. And some of our posh areas around Karachi[Defence], Islamabad, etc. or at least some fresh air.
    She wore these clothes before also and more revealing clothes in trash lollywood movies. Recommend

  • Ali Salman
    Dec 28, 2010 - 1:14AM

    ya ture and nice article …..she is not representing the ‘modern woman’ of Pakistan bocz we already saw and every body know which class she belonged and which circle is representing ….Recommend

  • faraz
    Dec 28, 2010 - 1:14AM

    An individual cant represent a nation. And Veena Malik has never said that she represents pakistani women. Why are we so obsessed by individuals? Why did you write this article if you arent obsessed by Veena Malik? Why are you trying to prove that Veena Malik has none of the qualities of a typical pakistani woman?Recommend

  • Veena Jee
    Dec 28, 2010 - 1:23AM

    Why can’t people mind their own business. Is Veena Malik Interfering in their daily life??Recommend

  • Erfan
    Dec 28, 2010 - 1:53AM

    The modern Pakistani woman also has a very strong self-esteem, something that Veena has no concept of

    Bhai mujhay bhi toa “MODERN” Pakistani woman dikhao. mein bhi toa dekho k yey MODERN kis tarah ki hoti hai.

    Seriously, She never said she was representing the so called “Modern” Pakistani woman. Since Musharaf era, I have failed to understand the meaning of so called “Modern”. And just because some lady appeared on TED Talk she has turned into your role model? Recommend

  • Erfan
    Dec 28, 2010 - 1:55AM

    And I would expect the modern dynamic independent woman of the 21st century to be a little less judgmental.

    Well Said Ali. Recommend

  • Ashmit Patel
    Dec 28, 2010 - 2:01AM

    Veena Malik rocks… RespectRecommend

  • Dec 28, 2010 - 2:11AM

    Veena simply represents the “show bizz culture” and this artificial culture has nothing to with both Indian and Pakistani cultures. Mullahs don’t understand so do our so called enthusiast “liberals”. Love you all.Recommend

  • Neeraj, India
    Dec 28, 2010 - 2:14AM

    For god’s sake lady, leave that poor girl Veena alone. What has she done to you and likes of you Pakistanis who are hell bent upon making her life miserable. Did she ever claim that she represents you, your country or religion? The answer is big NO. May I ask you a question? As a sub-editor or a media person do you represent your entire media, country, religion, gender etc.? The answer is again a big NO. Same thing applies to me. As a corporate employee, I do not represent entire India Inc. or any other identities related to my country, religion etc. Both of us represent ourselves and nothing more. And of course you and I try our best to reach higher positions in our respective fields by making and showing ourselves more capable, efficient and desirable than others.
    Veena is in no way different from us. The only difference is that she is in a field known as show biz where physical beauty, glamour, controversies and ability to stay in the news are regarded as essential ingredients to success. All she is trying to do is to promote her professional life. Her antics have nothing to do with nationalism, religion, morality and other blah blah things.
    World is such a diverse place and that is why it is so beautiful! Let us live and let others live happily. Recommend

  • A non resident paki chick
    Dec 28, 2010 - 2:16AM

    How could anyone be possibly thinking Veena can be representing pakistani women at all?? i don’t think ány one even remotely can be impressed by her esp her attire!Recommend

  • Sonia
    Dec 28, 2010 - 2:47AM

    Veena Malik is an actress. Your standards of defining Pakistani women are quite conservative. Recommend

  • randomrandom
    Dec 28, 2010 - 2:56AM

    get over it already ! she was not playing in olympics on behalf of Pakistani women. Recommend

  • Sonia
    Dec 28, 2010 - 3:08AM

    The author must get rid of her Pakistani middle class mentality. This hypocritic slogan of representation is useless against a more grave situation of Asia Bibi. Can I ask the author if Asia Bibi represents her? Morever, she is comparing women with her narrow vision. A social worker, sports woman and an actress all work on different streams. I have little recommendation for the author that instead of marginalizing one class of women from the other, she could have seen it as a variety of women roles that we have in Pakistan. Urdu is a language of your upper middle and elite class society. The rest are punjabi speakers or the speaker of other local languages. YOUR DEFINITION OF PAKISTANI IS QUITE BIASED. Please rethink WHO IS A PAKISTANI WOMAN?Recommend

  • sam
    Dec 28, 2010 - 3:10AM

    i loved it very well said….and yes i am a modern pakistani woman and veena does not represent me…Recommend

  • Sonia
    Dec 28, 2010 - 3:13AM

    What a vain and selfish understanding of Modern Pakistani women.Recommend

  • Sheherzade
    Dec 28, 2010 - 3:33AM

    THANK YOU ZAINAB!
    Finally some common sense!Recommend

  • Ali Shafiq
    Dec 28, 2010 - 5:04AM

    Zardari represents you on an international level and you’re angry at veena malik ?! Recommend

  • Nilofar Khan
    Dec 28, 2010 - 5:29AM

    I agree with @faraz- This fluff piece was written because a similar piece of Veena Mallik got a decent response. This is equivalent of a poor written essay by a 12 year old girl.
    I was totally lost by this childish rant: “To me, Veena Malik’s dresses, men and stilettos don’t matter because she does not represent me.”
    Excuse me what does a persons dressing or acting out relate to representation. looks like the author was trying to jump on the Venna bandwagon, well actually Zainab Imam you are a day late and a Rupee short!Recommend

  • Dec 28, 2010 - 5:38AM

    Veena Malik is part of the entertainment industry, and as we can see, everyone is entertained. She has done her job, whether she is applauded or criticized. As they say, in show business, being infamous is better than not being talked about at all. Recommend

  • pfft
    Dec 28, 2010 - 8:35AM

    GOOD NEWS: She doesn’t represent PAkistan or you.
    She went there on her own terms. Recommend

  • Gulalai Ismail
    Dec 28, 2010 - 8:49AM

    Veena Malik never asked any women to related with her! She went their to build her own carrier, to represent herself, not to represent every pakistani women. She may not represent every Pakistani Women, BUT She did represented herself! and yes She is a Modern Pakistan Women, Every modern Pakistani women may not be like her, but she is one of them!

    And I agree to one of the comments above, COMMON think and talk about the other major issues of Pakistan such as terrorism, millitancy, corruption, etc not the dress of Veena Malik.Recommend

  • RK
    Dec 28, 2010 - 9:25AM

    Veena showed the world that Pakistani women are confident! I fully support her. There was nothing immoral which she did on the Show. Recommend

  • Yousuf
    Dec 28, 2010 - 9:30AM

    Win!Recommend

  • samar
    Dec 28, 2010 - 9:30AM

    neither SHE is representing you nor others like ladies you mentioned. mind your own business. thats all.Recommend

  • Afia Jamal
    Dec 28, 2010 - 9:53AM

    I dont understand thr purpose of writing this peice . I liked veena at big boss . she was better than thr rest playing games on others to win . she was being real and for god’s sake why dont you understand she is a girl from showbiz she has to be glamourized to get fame . she cant be an athlete at the show to get fame like you said naseem ahmed is your role model .. totally irrelveant argument .. get a life !Recommend

  • karim,,,,,,,
    Dec 28, 2010 - 10:20AM

    Veena Malik is representing either aspects of a women,,we feel shy commenting on the global system,,,which make a woman non other than a toy,,,,,,,the way veena malik reprents the pakistan is her own choice we believe in objective freedom,,,,her role as an actress is better than a women who just become a silent wall torn picture working in the lands and provide luxuries to some specific class we should appreciate her bold character and must shy ,,,she is a role model if she could threat men chaunism in the country who just consider be a commodity in the market,,,,,Recommend

  • Fizza Hassan Rizvi
    Dec 28, 2010 - 10:23AM

    @ those who say Veena Malik was not representing Pakistan or Pakistani women.

    Every individual is a representative of his/her country either it’s annunciated or not. Whenever a foreigner see’s me he gets an idea how my country-men generally are or what sort of dresses Pakistani women wear. It is natural and happens everywhere and with everyone, Ms. Malik is no exception. So please don’t say that she was not representing Pakistan. If she has a green passport then she was certainly representing our nation.Recommend

  • Yaseen
    Dec 28, 2010 - 10:27AM

    Excellent. Recommend

  • Nosh
    Dec 28, 2010 - 10:43AM

    Absolutely agree with Faizan Lakhani… Veena Malik can never represent Pakistan!
    Let’s just get rid of this argument now and think beyond her and thank Allah that this muharram has been peaceful in our country.Recommend

  • Immymud
    Dec 28, 2010 - 11:02AM

    Haah… after a very long time, i finally read something that satisfy myself. great work young lady you deserve a applause. :) Recommend

  • Burhan
    Dec 28, 2010 - 11:19AM

    Veena has simply destroyed the image of Pakistan..remember all those claiming that she was not there to represent Pakistan..keep in mind wherever u go in the world and when u say u are pakistani..it means u are representing Pakistan..and if u r not pakistani then its ok! Veena has just brought down the standards of modern pakistani women..All such nonsense actors or actress’s should be condemened!@! Recommend

  • AkhtarN
    Dec 28, 2010 - 11:21AM

    Great:You really said what Pakistani want TO SAY about that LADYRecommend

  • non-indian
    Dec 28, 2010 - 11:25AM

    @all the indians who hv sympathies for poor veena
    plz take her,dont let her come back here plzz.Recommend

  • Ali
    Dec 28, 2010 - 12:10PM

    The very fact that you cannot stop talking about Veena Malik is a testament to her genious! She’s got you all dancing to her tuneRecommend

  • Noor
    Dec 28, 2010 - 12:14PM

    As I had said last night, you have put the “i-brigade” on heels :-)Recommend

  • Sankalp
    Dec 28, 2010 - 12:22PM

    @Author

    I am a modern Pakistani woman who has
    a job, pays her taxes and drives
    around town. And I don’t need a Veena
    Malik to represent me — not in India,
    not anywhere in the world.

    Well ofc, now a single women cannot be a representation for the entire women race!
    Obviously she was sort of an ambassador of Pakistan when she came to India, but its not like she was representing all the women in a country of millions and neither can other women which you very eloquently quoted in your post.Recommend

  • Sonia
    Dec 28, 2010 - 12:28PM

    @ Nilofer. Excellent reply Nilofer. We need to get rid of our social class and Identity notions. The author has a very limited view of modern Pakistani women. Recommend

  • Sonia
    Dec 28, 2010 - 12:48PM

    Veena does not represent the author, but she represents many confident and bold women in Pakistan and all across the world. Her sexuality is not supressed and she enjoys being a woman which is actually a fanatsy of those who never get a chance. Recommend

  • Dec 28, 2010 - 1:01PM

    Brilliant article girl :) I was thrilled when i read it ! this is how all pakistani girls feel about this whole Veena episode!
    and yes I too appreciate her for the proper Urdu she speaks!
    Good work!
    Recommend

  • parvez
    Dec 28, 2010 - 1:59PM

    Veena Malik is doing her own thing – good luck to her.
    Ooo! Mathira where are you ? Say something.Recommend

  • Nadeem Asif
    Dec 28, 2010 - 2:27PM

    “The modern Pakistani woman is a success story who does not flirt with men”….. Wow. I’m glad you’re not representing anyone.

    Neither is Veena. Why start churning out insecure clarifications? You don’t see any of the guys writing about Begum Nawazish Ali to clarify that he does NOT represent us. Recommend

  • Ali
    Dec 28, 2010 - 4:54PM

    @non-indian
    I second that my brother! :)Recommend

  • Dec 28, 2010 - 5:38PM

    -

    That’s the issue with the gairat brigatde. They say, Veena does NAT represent Pakistan women.

    Yeah that’s true. Recommend

  • Hussain Shafiq
    Dec 28, 2010 - 6:12PM

    The matter of fact is that Veena Malik did represent Pakistan in the international media. Big Boss has a very vast viewership than you think and wherever the show was aired, they would have said “hey, check her out, this lady in short clothing, in the arms of a guy, is from Pakistan”.

    My only point is that there are bigger, better and respectable platforms to represent Pakistan — literature, science, music, you name it. I wouldn’t side with a person who would use such ways of gaining publicity, making money or should i say trying her chance into bollywood.

    I have got nothing against Veena Malik, the only thing is that she represented my country…and that’s what bothers me a lot.Recommend

  • kk tiger
    Dec 28, 2010 - 6:35PM

    We pakistanis are bunch of hypocrites. we like to keep ‘things’ private and do every possible thing behind doors…. Veena of course doesnot represent usRecommend

  • Qamar
    Dec 28, 2010 - 6:44PM

    voting: veena won the arguments Alas for authorRecommend

  • Inswing
    Dec 28, 2010 - 6:56PM

    What is the point of this blog ? Is she saying women shouldn’t flirt with men ? I’m scratching my head trying to figure out the point that she is trying to make !!Recommend

  • Dec 28, 2010 - 7:10PM

    Great post. Zainab you indeed are the true representative of Pakistani women so as Naseem hameed, Pakistan women cricket team and so on. And in my opinion too indeed Veena doesn’t / didn’t represent us.
    Wonderful post.Recommend

  • Dec 28, 2010 - 7:37PM

    As far as the mind-you-own-business comments are, heres what I think :

    When you are an icon, a celebrity or someone popular on any level and are recognized in both your country and abroad – you and Pakistan become ONE entity and then it becomes a responsibility to uphold our country’s name and image.
    Afterall, if Asif or Amir or anyone match-fixed so what then? Its their business but why do we charge into a national uproar then? Its because they REPRESENT Pakistan, people identify them as those from this country.

    YOU are PAKISTAN and that goes for each and every one of us.
    Nations make countries and nations are made up of individuals – just as Veena was from this one.

    P.S : She maybe from the entertainment business and attracting glamour and attention is her job but you don’t need to massage men or try a ‘seductive’ dance in a bathroom (big time : FAIL) to entertain or draw people. Recommend

  • Amer
    Dec 28, 2010 - 8:23PM

    Good Article.
    If the Indians like Veena so much, they can keep her. We don’t want her back anyways…..lolRecommend

  • muhammad saeed
    Dec 28, 2010 - 9:18PM

    @Neeraj….I think this article is for the many Indians out there who dot spare a minute to stereotype a whole 1 hundred and 80 million Pakistanis..you have your answer in your question that why this article was written your are on spot that no individual can represent the whole nation and this is what you Indians have to understand and learn or you might understand it but you enjoy by stereotyping the Pakistanis on the act of certain groups or people..on the other side of the picture even if veena didn’t mention that she is representing Pakistan..it would be understood in India and to Indian common man that she is a girl from Pakistan and thus an image of the women in Pakistan and as your media only gives you the bad news coming from Pakistan no one in India would have any prior knowledge of Pakistani women and there achievements..thus making this article more sensible that VEENA MALIK DON’T REPRESENT PAKISTANI WOMEN…Recommend

  • Diogenes
    Dec 28, 2010 - 9:22PM

    Well, leave the lady alone. She is free to choose for herself what is right for her and what’s not. If she doesn’t think that she is doing anything wrong by participating in the show, no one should take it upon themselves to impose their views on her. Hers is an individual’s decision and she will face its consequences (whatever they maybe). She is not representing Pakistan so none should be worried about her sullying its image (which in any case lies in tatters). Recommend

  • asma
    Dec 28, 2010 - 9:32PM

    You are narrow minded …..
    But I am a pakistani woman and yes Veena has represented me…Recommend

  • Anoop
    Dec 28, 2010 - 9:35PM

    I wont be surprised if Veena Malik’s life is under threat by the Moral Brigade.Recommend

  • Sarah
    Dec 28, 2010 - 9:36PM

    Agreed with this major comment:::

    Veena does not represent the author, but she represents many confident and bold women in Pakistan and all across the world. Her sexuality is not supressed and she enjoys being a woman which is actually a fanatsy of those who never get a chance.
    Recommend

  • Dec 28, 2010 - 9:58PM

    1) Veena M did not claim to represent anyone other than herself;

    2) She does represent the modern Pakistani woman, because she’s a) Pakistani; b) a woman; c) modern. To deny that would be tantamount to imposing one’s own view of what women should do — the same old narrative that seeks to control women and female sexuality;

    3) ‘Modern Pakistani women’ are not monolithic entities — they’re individuals and have their own sets of attributes, belief systems and worldviews. They might not resonate with your own worldview, but isn’t saying that = stating the obvious?

    Frankly, Zainab: et tu? :-/Recommend

  • muhammad saeed
    Dec 28, 2010 - 9:59PM

    @Anoop….The life of Veena malik willl be less threaten then of MF Hussein in India…Its high time for you Indians to introspect before saying any thing against Pakistan……at least veena will not go to Qatar and ask for the nationality as the poor old fellow MF Hussein has to do….Recommend

  • m.Kh
    Dec 28, 2010 - 10:34PM

    @M.saeed

    Just wait.. the way she was acting in Big boss she looked like she wanted to go away and settle in bollywood…looked like she was ready to do any thing for it. Look at Adnan sami.. the guy still has hopes of living in India… time to think dude.. people want to move out of a narrow minded society. I don’t hve to name them but you know there are quite a few queing up to move to India at the smallest possible chance…Recommend

  • Anoop
    Dec 28, 2010 - 10:39PM

    @muhammad saeed,

    MF Hussein is a big hypocrite. He draws naked pics of God and Godesses of Hinduism. But, ultimately the State comes to his rescue and promises protection. For the similar crime in Pakistan he would be hanged by the State itself or killed by a mob. He stayed in India safe and sound for several months after he drew those Blasphemous Pictures.

    The hypocritical part is this: He goes from India, where the State protected him for blaspheming against the majority Religion to Qatar! A Muslim country.

    I bet he want draw any pictures of any Religious figure while in Qatar, which he so freely did while in India.

    So, Mister, get your facts right before jumping into conclusions.

    You have the gall to compare the relatively Open society of India to that of Pakistan? Please.

    Here, the State doesn’t discriminate. Recommend

  • realMuslim
    Dec 28, 2010 - 11:48PM

    @muhammad saeed Wrote:
    “@Anoop….The life of Veena malik willl be less threaten then of MF Hussein in India…”
    Wrong example! MF Hussein had painted naked figures of hindu godess…let him make a painting of Prophet(PBUH)..even clothed one and see the reaction in pakistan!Recommend

  • angeredreader
    Dec 29, 2010 - 12:44AM

    And we ask why is Pakistan called a “failed state”? Why not? Because our standards of nationhood are obviously built upon warped ideals…Atleast for some women like this author. It irrks me to see people championing morality when Islam is a religion of freedom. Recommend

  • sabrina
    Dec 29, 2010 - 12:55AM

    As an Indian residing in Singapore, I’ve often been fed with images of Pakistan that paint a very fundamentalist and radical picture of Pakistani people. The best thing that has emerged from the Veena Malik saga is the fact that we get to read and watch the liberals, conservatives and different sections of Pakistani society standing up to defend what they think represent Pakistan. It is an eye-opener to many, truly! Recommend

  • Bushra Ali
    Dec 29, 2010 - 1:00AM

    I have always been your big fan Zainab!
    I think your analogies of other role models are amazing. AND YES, there is nothing wrong in VOICING OUR THOUGHTS in ink or on internet.
    I am no “celebrity” but wherever I go I do not forget my background or disregard my association, I am a PAKISTANI and a MUSLIM, both associations which I carry with pride. All my actions, if not watched by others, are watched by me and I know if I am misrepresenting my country. So the association is inevitably attached to me. On the other hand, VEENA has the similar association and if she has chosen to hook herself with a program aired in Pakistan then being a celebrity she carries an unconscious task of responsible representation, especially, when it comes to a program with this kind of viewership, (so much that it has stirred so many comments from us). She cannot forget she is Veena from Pakistan and not VEENA FROM VIENNA!Recommend

  • muhammad saeed
    Dec 29, 2010 - 1:09AM

    @ Anoop you said Here, the State doesn’t discriminate. hahahha look who is talking..typical indian thinking that india have no issues like Pakistan have…let me tell you some thing about your own country and I have read a lot of your comments other then this post..mainly focusing on stereotyping and prejudice of Pakistani nation. Narinder modi is denied visa to enter USA on basis of his involvement in Gujarat riots…congress MP from gujrat Ehsan Jaffrey’s wife shouting for the last 10 years with all the witnesses claiming that Modi is behind every thing..hundred of other witnesses and proofs clearly mentioned his involvement in the massacre and where is Mr Modi now….may be your next PM..and there is no discrimination..dude i told you do some introspection..let Pakistan solve its own issues we don’t want you to come and comment on our news papers articles..and telling us what we do and what we might not..why do you have so much interest in it….If i will continue to expose India only on one point that there is no discrimination in India.. it might take me 1 week to write here..next time before criticizing any one its better to look you self first..
    and all othere indians who replied to my post.. MF Hussein painted these paintings in 1970..where were all of you all that time ..hmmmm..and i replied to this Anoop’s comments who siad that Veena’s life will be in threat ..Recommend

  • muhammad saeed
    Dec 29, 2010 - 1:24AM

    @M.KH….You will agree with me that Indians don’t love Pakistanis that much that they will welcome any one from Pakistan open handily..its Pakistanis singers and artists talent that there is a demand of them..Adnan sami khan is a Canadian and British citizen also so he can apply for indian nationality we dont have any issues….all other pakiatani singers and artists who have performed in India totally survived over there talent..comedian shakeel siddiqui who actually taught your stand up comedians how to perform or likes of atif aslam and rahat fateh ali khan..no one ever showed any intrust in settling in India as you mentioned..may be its your own dream that they might settle in India…..and on your comment of narrow minded society well that is typical of indians as I mentioned earlier a lot of time you are very good in stereotyping and prejudice against Pakistanis……I dont want to go in deep.. same advice to you also as I gave it to anoop.why you guys are so much interested in Pakistani affairs and keep posting your comments on Pakistani news paper articles..its our internal discussion..post your comments on Hindustan times or any other paper where you will find a lot of friend like you thinking..Recommend

  • Umair Savul
    Dec 29, 2010 - 5:51AM

    Very well said, we are proud of people like you!Recommend

  • Raj
    Dec 29, 2010 - 7:18AM

    She very much represents you, that is why you have written this column. If she has not represented you, probably you would not have penned this write up.Recommend

  • AHR
    Dec 29, 2010 - 10:31AM

    Excellent! Really glad you wrote thisRecommend

  • balik
    Dec 29, 2010 - 12:24PM

    here some people are repeatedly saying that the her participation and acts she commited there are her personal matter.i dont agree with this .imagine about the viewers of this show.they certainly believed that the woman veena malik is representing is pakistani modern woman…..she is from pakistan ,so it natural thing for them to think so..
    i strongly agree with writer that the real face of modern pakistani woman is NASEEM HAMEED not VEENA MALIK.Recommend

  • Anonymous
    Dec 29, 2010 - 12:37PM

    The same should then be said about these so called “modern pakistani women” when they go abroad to study and for vacations. The second the plane lands their in their skirts, going to bars, going clubbing, drinking, having the time of their lives. Should it be then that all Pakistani people that go abroad are representing Pakistan and Islam? What’s the difference between Veena flirting in India as opposed to a random pakistani girl cosying upto some caucasian guy in London? Maybe it’s different because its public and what other people do is private? but you didn’t create the opportunity for her to go there neither did the government of pakistan and neither did the ulemaRecommend

  • Atta
    Dec 29, 2010 - 2:09PM

    Yeah,agreed.Recommend

  • SJ
    Dec 29, 2010 - 2:12PM

    The show is entirely scripted, and in the show everyone has to survive, pls dont mistake Dolly Bindra for Indian women or Veena Malik representing Pakistan. It was more of she reaching out to small time director/ producer to get work in Indian serial.Recommend

  • ehsanali
    Dec 29, 2010 - 6:09PM

    Veena Malik is real MISS DUNYA I like her show let the other ladies be jealousRecommend

  • Dec 29, 2010 - 8:00PM

    i have a nightmares of meera being in big boss season 5 :D Recommend

  • AB
    Dec 29, 2010 - 8:58PM

    The writer over here is presenting the same bigoted view.I would like to ask her whether there were similar reactions in pakistan when images of Imran Khan romancing with european girls were published.Or was there a sense of Victory?As an Indian,I can tell u that she was never represented as an Amassador of pakistan’s women etc. in our major newspapers.Why don’t you guys simply leave it to her?We may like something,we may not but who are we to draw to the line of demarcation between moral and immoral behaviour?She did every thing in her PERSONAL CAPACITY.Recommend

  • Mavra Zehra
    Dec 30, 2010 - 2:12AM

    I totally fail to see any point in writing this article in the first place.You wrote an entire piece only to say you hardly care about Veena Malik!!!
    It was only one show to catch people’s attention (which it surely did) and now people won’t stop talking about it.Its now time to drop this discussion altogether.Recommend

  • Amna Ahmed
    Dec 30, 2010 - 7:42AM

    Veena is the best!Recommend

  • S. Asghar
    Dec 30, 2010 - 7:47AM

    Well written. Many times we miss people with balance views among two extremes.

    Cheers.Recommend

  • Assad ullah
    Dec 30, 2010 - 12:49PM

    This is wonderful. Veena Malik is the defining issue of our times. Never mind the shortages of food, electricity and gas. Never mind the sky high food prices. Three cheers for usRecommend

  • ZS
    Dec 30, 2010 - 1:49PM

    Veena malik is a media start she’s not there to represent the modern women i disagree why everyone is looking at the negative side of the picture why not the positive one why isn’t everyone ready to look at her positive attitude the why she come to meet dolly bindra when she was leaving the house the respect she has for human nature she wast playing a doubled faced woman dare she was what she was, if she disagree to one thing she disagree to dat, had no fightz on food stuff, well behaved wdh everyone atleast wdh those who were gud wdh her, activity participated in all de activities, was just doing harmless gossip wasnt playing a role of a fire cracker, was a trust worthy friend wasnt playng games like sara by nominating her own friend people try to look at the brighter side of the thingz tooRecommend

  • ZS
    Dec 30, 2010 - 1:51PM

    Veena malik is a media star she’s not there to represent the modern women i disagree why everyone is looking at the negative side of the picture why not the positive one why isn’t everyone ready to look at her positive attitude the why she come to meet dolly bindra when she was leaving the house the respect she has for human nature she wast playing a doubled faced woman dare she was what she was, if she disagree to one thing she disagree to dat, had no fightz on food stuff, well behaved wdh everyone atleast wdh those who were gud wdh her, actively participated in all de activities, was just doing harmless gossip wasnt playing a role of a fire cracker, was a trust worthy friend wasnt playng games like sara by nominating her own friend ……..people try to look at the brighter side of the thingz tooRecommend

  • Farhan
    Dec 30, 2010 - 4:18PM

    Very good piece with good logical arguments. But at the same time i want to mention that i am not from ‘ghairat brigade’….Recommend

  • Sumera Khan
    Dec 30, 2010 - 5:25PM

    Goooooooooodd zainab :)Recommend

  • Muhammed Ali
    Dec 31, 2010 - 3:37AM

    If a women can wear burka than a women can wear bikini any prob talibans??!! Veena keep it up!Recommend

  • Talha
    Dec 31, 2010 - 11:12AM

    Zainab don’t waste your writing skills on these pathetic topics. Please do something useful. You are in the main stream and can surely do a lot to have an effect on our society.Recommend

  • fatima
    Dec 31, 2010 - 2:12PM

    Lets do BIGG BOSS in Pakistan, with politicians inside; would be great fun!Recommend

  • Iqbal
    Jan 22, 2011 - 4:48AM

    hello

    I hate this Mob Mentality ! Please leave Veena Malik alone. Self Esteem ? Please that’s her business not yours ok, and by the way she is not asking for or begging to represent Pakistan or Pakistan’s much vaunted womanhood. She educated her siblings and stood up for herself alone and now is a business woman. She has the right to pursue happiness as she sees fit and she has not broken any laws. That’s a very strong lady and a healthy self esteem to me. Which brings to question who are these high decibel mullahs and muftis to demonize her while they watch sleazy Bollywood movies in secret ? ( come on I know these hypocrites we have one in our family ) And by the way who are you to judge her ? Look at our state of affairs people are being tried and condemned in media for anything and everything and now this, this can be serious, look some misguided idiots can be led astray to do real harm ! Please stop this lunacy and focus on real women issue like violence on women.Recommend

  • Jan 22, 2011 - 8:37PM

    I am not into reality shows of any kind. Therefore, what she did in the show is the calling of that arena. Just like Sania Mirza must wear mini-skirt if she wants to play tennis at the international stage.

    What I want to talk about is that iI takes courage to face off ignorant and ill-informed fatwah-touting mullah right on the national TV. More power to her for just that.Recommend

  • ST
    Jan 23, 2011 - 4:19AM

    Wow, what a stupid article.Recommend

  • ASK
    Jan 23, 2011 - 12:27PM

    Ya nailed it sis :)Recommend

  • Veena fan
    Jan 23, 2011 - 2:25PM

    Zainab, how ’bout direct your excellent writing capabilities to one of the women you DO look upto:) Apart from her alleged indiscretions the way she carried herself throughout the show was very nice, and sadly if one thinks so, moral police personnel like yourself label us the “not so moral brigade”. Quit it, do we not know what it means for you to have written this:) Recommend

  • Waqas Ahmed
    Jan 23, 2011 - 7:37PM

    Great article! Finally some one has written sensible piece on this “issue” read non issue on this web site.Recommend

  • Waqas Ahmed
    Jan 23, 2011 - 7:38PM

    I pity those who are idealizing veena malik.Recommend

  • Javed Iqbal
    Jan 23, 2011 - 11:05PM

    Babydoll i agree that charity begins at home. BUT:

    If you see something inappropriate happening then (irrespective of whose doing it) AT LEAST consider it wrong in your heart rather than supporting it.

    If that would have not been a public show, I dont care what veena does. Our fore fathers sacrificed to get a shadow where Islam can be practiced. Whether it is practiced today or not is a separate discussion. But when veena agreeed to be a part of BB, she must have realized the responsibility of representing not only Muslims from Pakistan but Muslims from India as well. Now many would ask why… why? because our youth, our children, our society do take inspirations from media. I don’t want this message to be conveyed to my daughter that wearing revealing clothes is alright and people will respect you more. I don’t want her to get a message that if you are giving massage to a female then its alright to give massage to a male as well. I don’t want my wife to hear questions/taunts from ppl all around saying that if a Muslim Veena can socialize with opposite gender and wear such clothes, why can’t you. I don’t want my family to get a message that if you are nice to others, it does not matter how you spend your time to make it joyful. You just need to be polite and sweet and rest nothing matters.

    Veena wanted to change India’s views about Pakistan. Who asked her to do so ? and we don’t want a person whose pictures are all over the internet to change some1s view about Pakistan.Recommend

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