Pakistani lesbian couple seek asylum in UK

Published: May 27, 2013

Rehana Kausar and Sobia Kamar. PHOTO: SUNDAY MERCURY

Two Pakistan women, recently married as a Muslim lesbian couple, have sought asylum in the UK claiming their lives would be in danger if they return to their native country, reported Sunday Mercury on Sunday.

According to the report, Rehana Kausar, 34, and Sobia Kamar, 29, tied the knot at a registry office in Leeds earlier this month and immediately applied for political asylum.

The couple was reported to have received death threats both in the UK and from opponents in Pakistan.

“The couple did not have an Islamic marriage ceremony, known as a nikah, as they could not find an imam to conduct what would have been a controversial ceremony,” a relative of the women was quoted as saying.

“They have been very brave throughout as our religion does not condone homosexuality. The couple have had their lives threatened both here and in Pakistan and there is no way they could ever return there,” the relative added.

Kausar, originally from Lahore, holds a master’s degree in economics from Punjab University and later studied in Birmingham where she met Kamar.

“This country allows us rights and it’s a very personal decision that we have taken. It’s no one’s business as to what we do with our personal lives,” she was quoted as telling the Birmingham-based Sunday Mercury newspaper.

Reader Comments (150)

  • Dr. Asad Sadick, Germany
    May 27, 2013 - 2:05PM

    Brave decision. Hats off to both. Alone in Pakistan there are relatively mild to moderate cases of lesbians. This will be a catalyst to a similar reaction back home.

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  • samar_yz
    May 27, 2013 - 2:17PM

    congratulations on finding love! I hope someday everyone would be as tolerant as the UK :-)

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  • Atif
    May 27, 2013 - 2:26PM

    Remember ! Every one has to die & appear in front of Allah.Recommend

  • Khalid
    May 27, 2013 - 2:30PM

    It is their personal business but the word Pakistani really bothers me.

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  • Stranger
    May 27, 2013 - 2:37PM

    Why should their personal life be ‘publicly’ discussed.

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  • M. Javed
    May 27, 2013 - 2:37PM

    As far as i catch it, its a stunt to attain UK citizenship, otherwise its nearly impossible now a days to get their immigration.

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  • Amer
    May 27, 2013 - 2:38PM

    It is indeed a personal decision, so then why is it on express tribune? Recommend

  • Abdullah Feroz
    May 27, 2013 - 2:40PM

    I don’t know why our media in Pakistan is supporting such kind of things. It seems they have some propaganda against the Islamic part of our name. We have to go in front of ALLAH. Money is not the thing which will save us in our grave. Remember Qaum i loot. It is not good thing for our culture and country i.e. Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

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  • Usama Bin Ahmed
    May 27, 2013 - 2:41PM

    “They have been very brave throughout as our religion does not condone homosexuality….”

    Seriously???

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  • De
    May 27, 2013 - 2:43PM

    No matter what they say. It’s a big sin and their marriage is not valid. Getting recognized as a couple in UK doesn’t mean they are a couple in front of Allah. After death they have to answer to Allah. Not the UK government.

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  • Amer
    May 27, 2013 - 2:52PM

    ET has a habit of printing only the portion of a comment that fits their views/needs and deleting the rest of the comment. That’s just disgusting!

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  • Good
    May 27, 2013 - 2:54PM

    Brave enough? What’s so brave about going against Allah and His laws? It’s disgusting they call such an action as ‘brave’.

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  • Anshuman Tripathy
    May 27, 2013 - 2:56PM

    @Atif,De Nobody knows what happens after death, but atleast they’ll live a happy life. Thats all that mattersRecommend

  • Misha Husnain Ali
    May 27, 2013 - 2:57PM

    Good for them. It certainly is easier to leave than to try and live in Pakistani society in a lesbian relationship. It is their personal business but sadly we are far away still from the time when we stop seeking entertainment in the form of news reports by discussing people’s personal lives and decisions.

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  • Agnostic Khan
    May 27, 2013 - 2:58PM

    ”Two Pakistan women, who are the first Muslim lesbian couple……”…How can you say they are the ‘first’ Muslim lesbians….I cant believe your level of reporting…..very disaapointed….

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  • Sheraz
    May 27, 2013 - 2:58PM

    “Ad-dunya sijnul mu’mini wa jannatul kaafiri.”
    “The world is prison for the believers and paradise for the disbelievers.”

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  • De
    May 27, 2013 - 3:00PM

    @Anshuman Tripathy:

    I’m sorry maybe you don’t know what happens after death. Our religion is clear as to what happens to a person after death for her/his actions committed in this world

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  • Twit
    May 27, 2013 - 3:01PM

    @Atif, @De
    “Everyone has to answer in front of Allah” ….. If that is the case what about humans born before Islam was founded? How will they be judged? Why so many religions – why is Allah letting so many religions to be created? Why did Allah create homosexuality?

    Think about these! As far as I know no one can give a “scientific” answer, only you to believe blindly. In my opinion humanity is the only religion.

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  • May 27, 2013 - 3:03PM

    @Atif:
    @De:

    How do you know? What if there is no God? Science doesn’t talk about any such being.. There is no proof of its existence.

    But, there is certainly proof of the love between these 2 ladies. What they do and who and how is none of anyone’s business, as long as nobody is getting hurt in anyway..Recommend

  • Logic
    May 27, 2013 - 3:06PM

    If native law criminalizes such actions, shouldn’t the headline read Criminal Couple?

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  • Hamza
    May 27, 2013 - 3:07PM

    It really their own business and it does not affect anyone around but by giving statements like “They have been very powerful and our religion does not condones ” is just crossing the line and being stupidly clever and the only thing they are looking for clearly is a UK residency .

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  • De
    May 27, 2013 - 3:13PM

    If people here believe that it’s a personal decision and we shouldn’t interfere, well then I can’t believe how naive and short sighted u are. They aren’t living in a closed cave. They will be part of a society. They will have kids and instill such corrupt beliefs in them as well. A family is the most important and affective element in this world. They are messing with that!
    In this way even incest will be allowed one day because there are ill people present now who indulge in it out of their free will! Some species indulge in it already. Then what will u say?

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  • Hamza
    May 27, 2013 - 3:13PM

    You shouldn’t have published their pictures ET. With the amount of crazy nutters running around, this is a serious threat to their safety.

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  • Not good
    May 27, 2013 - 3:14PM

    Why did they leave pak ? What wrong did they do ?

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  • Abdullah Feroz
    May 27, 2013 - 3:14PM

    Very dissapointed report. Are we turning to be Qaum i loot?

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  • Rahul
    May 27, 2013 - 3:15PM

    “No matter what they say. It’s a big sin and their marriage is not valid. Getting recognized as a couple in UK doesn’t mean they are a couple in front of Allah. After death they have to answer to Allah. Not the UK government. “

    I have heard these very same lines on Youtube by a guy named Sheikh Anjem Chowdhury. He’s quite popular in UK.

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  • Noble Tufail
    May 27, 2013 - 3:17PM

    All the acceptance for them as it is thier personal decision/choice, however reportign this story on a national newspaper may jeopardize thier safety.

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  • akbar
    May 27, 2013 - 3:19PM

    well, we must know that this couple had taken this step ,,, not becz of there love ,, BUT T GET UK NATIONALITYYYY,,,, AS NOW THY TAKING ASYLM IN UK.

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  • viru
    May 27, 2013 - 3:23PM

    Lollywood version of Dostana.

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  • shehnaz hussain
    May 27, 2013 - 3:24PM

    I wish the couple a lot of blessings. May Allah protect you from extremists who have nothing to.do with islam as they are killing innocent people.

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  • Asad
    May 27, 2013 - 3:24PM

    First Muslim Lesbian couple? Certainly not

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  • Yaaz
    May 27, 2013 - 3:28PM

    May be for the intention of getting British Nationality.. because nowadays its very tough even to get visa .. so mostly pakistani guys also moving to gay-ism to claim asylum and in that case you will get your long residency visa with in 3 months … thats funny like if you apply for genuine visa you will get it in 5 to 8 months .. well that shows British / Foreign policies are supporting Muslims to get marry with same sex.

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  • Herald
    May 27, 2013 - 3:31PM

    @Atif: Really?

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  • zoro
    May 27, 2013 - 3:32PM

    So now the cat is out …
    It is a known fcat that “Bacchabazi” is rampant in Pakistan..
    Let us see how many MEN come out in open and do the same what the brave WOMEN have done ..
    Afterall it will be a totally personel decision as everybody has expressed above …

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  • Meera Ghani
    May 27, 2013 - 3:38PM

    Whats wrong with the ET, why are you disclosing their names and pictures in Pakistan where these things can lead to serious harm. You need to protect their identities. Most irresponsible. I dont get why their private lives is being discussed on this forum by people who dont even know them. Live and let live people.Recommend

  • Pro
    May 27, 2013 - 3:38PM

    Its not a matter of being brave, its about being stupid.

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  • opler
    May 27, 2013 - 3:39PM

    @Not Good; they did nothing wrong, its everyone right to live a free life but here in pakistan we punish innocents and codone and even praise murderers and terrorists!

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  • Fahad Hafeez
    May 27, 2013 - 3:41PM

    This is their personal decision and should not be discussed on Tribune, for the people questioning why it is written 1st muslim lesbian couple is because that is what they have stated on the paper , Its just paper information it does not judges one’s Iman or anything. ok .

    The main issue is to find out the route cause what lead to this decision. mostly this happens when there is ill treatment from the other sex side so this should be removed. Rest its their decision and they are responsible for their life after death.Recommend

  • Ayesha Bhaalay
    May 27, 2013 - 3:46PM

    Shouldn’t have shown their pics ET. A lot of self-proclaimed religious nutjobs will be a threat to these ladies now. Live and let live. No one has the right to judge these ladies.

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  • bilal
    May 27, 2013 - 3:49PM

    why they are giving the asylum? is there anyone from the palace who support inappropriate relations?

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  • Usman
    May 27, 2013 - 3:50PM

    apparently his relative seems very proud of her…. pity you

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  • Shuayb Ganatra
    May 27, 2013 - 4:24PM

    Kill the difference, not the different!

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  • this is how we do it
    May 27, 2013 - 4:25PM

    good plan indeed.

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  • Fatima
    May 27, 2013 - 4:26PM

    They are indeed brave enough to play out the act to achieve UK citizenship.. If they claim to be on religion, of course this bond is not recognized, eventually they would get the passports, then finding grooms for themselves would not be a problem.. Who wouldn’t want to marry a British passport holder despite their crooked past records :) cleverrrr!!

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  • Mouzam Hassan
    May 27, 2013 - 4:36PM

    Good way to get English nationality..

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  • FACT
    May 27, 2013 - 4:39PM

    @Herald:
    Just wait and see!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Murtaza
    May 27, 2013 - 4:47PM

    what do they actually do, these lesbians? #JustAsking

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  • SHAGY
    May 27, 2013 - 4:56PM

    ET! you should not publish their names and pics if they already fear threats.

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  • KAY
    May 27, 2013 - 4:58PM

    Those commenting against should know that Gays and Lesbians are created by God himself. Religions do not even mention third sex.

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  • bilal
    May 27, 2013 - 5:02PM

    what if they are interested in the queen?

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  • [email protected]
    May 27, 2013 - 5:03PM

    Ladies, there are easier and less controversial ways to get asylum.

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  • Kay
    May 27, 2013 - 5:04PM

    Allah created them.. didn’t he???

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  • Umer
    May 27, 2013 - 5:06PM

    Ladies, there are easier and less controversial ways to get asylum in UK!

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  • JRR
    May 27, 2013 - 5:07PM

    @ Anshuman..
    If someone doesnot know what will happen in the life hereafter doesnot mean all do not know….
    Anyways its their personal act and should not be discussed in public even though one may personally dislike it.

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  • waseem sarwar
    May 27, 2013 - 5:10PM

    I thought there were other ways to get British passport instead of doing this thing.

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  • Asif Butt
    May 27, 2013 - 5:11PM

    I am a male and by reading this news and seeing the pic , boy I wish i could declare myself a lesbian …

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  • Taimoor
    May 27, 2013 - 5:12PM

    Entirely a personal decision regardless of their intention but not allowed as per Islamic Law. May ALLAH have mercy on them and guide them to the right path.

    “”"”They have been very brave throughout as our religion does not condone homosexuality. The couple have had their lives threatened both here and in Pakistan and there is no way they could ever return there”"”"
    The relative needs to be guided as well.

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  • Historian 1
    May 27, 2013 - 5:13PM

    Abdullah Feroz:
    The case of Quam e Loot is totally different where brothers used to marry sisters thats why they were destroyed! There is no mention of transgenders (lesbians or gays) in the holy book although they are created by God (as per the believers) himself.

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  • antanu
    May 27, 2013 - 5:14PM

    @Dr. Asad Sadick, Germany:
    it is ironoical how an unnatural and alliance has become sacred for people like you.though it’s the free will of the COUPLE it’s people like you who make disgusting impression…

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  • senmc
    May 27, 2013 - 5:18PM

    @shehnaz hussain: dont do that….have some mercy upon u plz….this is ridiculous

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  • abdul
    May 27, 2013 - 5:21PM

    its quite simple. its either islamic or unislamic. if it is islamic then no worry. if it is unislamic then again two things. either islam is good or not. if islam is good and this act is islamic then this act is good. if islam is not good and this act is islamic then it is not good. if islam is good and this act is unislamic then it is not good. if islam is not good and this act is unislamic then it is good.

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  • Shayan
    May 27, 2013 - 5:47PM

    What’s wrong with the express tribune nowadays? Earlier, the moderator only published progressive and secular comments which was a breath of fresh air. Really disappointed to see the bigoted comments above. Please resort to you’re earlier policy, ET.
    Regards,
    An avid ET Reader.

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  • Dawn
    May 27, 2013 - 5:53PM

    24 May 2015
    “After getting immigration from UK government in the guise of Lesbians, two Pakistani girls married their Boy friends in Pakistan and went to Saudi Arabia to perform Hajj.”
    Wait until you hear this news.

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  • Nauman
    May 27, 2013 - 6:04PM

    Taliban practice their own version of homosexuality…..

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  • misbah
    May 27, 2013 - 6:05PM

    wait isnt killing the females unislamic too?

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  • Funter
    May 27, 2013 - 6:18PM

    Lahories should be PROUD OF THESE (BRAVE GAY) LADIES and first registered Muslim gay couple in the history of Pakistan gifted by UK.

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  • Mj
    May 27, 2013 - 6:33PM

    Brave decision by the couple. No ideology or moral system should be forced on individuals. Wish them safety and happiness.

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  • aish
    May 27, 2013 - 6:37PM

    If God created lesbians and so there is nothing wrong with it.. then He also created “extremists” and so there should be nothing wrong with them!!

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  • May 27, 2013 - 6:38PM

    @De:

    “They aren’t living in a closed cave. They will be part of a society.”

    French Govt gave similar reasons to ban the Burqa. They cited bad value system too, just like you. Do you agree with the French Govt in principle then?

    What do YOU care what values they teach their children? If you find it disturbing thats your problem.. There’ll always be clash of values, but that doesn’t mean you jail them or harm them or tell them to run away.

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  • ABKhan
    May 27, 2013 - 6:40PM

    I see a lot of hypocrites here who are bestowing their blessings to this couple but if their daughters do the same they will never accept …..

    The other thing its only an asylum stunt, if its their own choice then why should they get the benefits driven from taxpayers money in UK ??

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  • balti
    May 27, 2013 - 6:45PM

    Fastest way getting citizenship and a way out of the mess, pretty much a cunning move. Idk what they find being a lesbian, it’s so weird.

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  • Amer
    May 27, 2013 - 6:53PM

    Bottom line is that we are not judging anyone since everyone will stand infront of their creator on the day of judgement. If you don’t believe in the day of judgement then there is no point in starting a civilized conversation on Lesbians etc anyways…LOL

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  • Nauman
    May 27, 2013 - 7:02PM

    Salam,
    Being a Pakistani homosexual and have gotten US asylum I can totally relate to these courageous women. All they’ve done is followed their heart. ALLAH has made it very clear that love is the only way to get closer to HIM and hatred causes distance.

    So to all my fellow brothers and sisters who appose such unions, let people express their love, cause if you’ll take away their love all what will be left is a world of ugliness.

    PS stop pointing fingers at others, let ALLAH be the judge, and meanwhile you focus on yourself and your actions.

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  • Naveed Alam Khattak
    May 27, 2013 - 7:07PM

    @BruteForce:

    you can visit the below site to get your answers.

    http://www.al-islam.org/allah/names/natureallah.htm

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  • Mj
    May 27, 2013 - 7:10PM

    Brave step by the couple. It should not be a business of the state or faith to decide what people do, with consent, in the privacy of their homes.

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  • Nadir
    May 27, 2013 - 7:24PM

    Everyone saying that these ladies have to appear before Allah etc, if they have to appear before Allah then why are you being so judgemental. Wish them congratulations and let it be

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  • Dr.A.K.Tewari
    May 27, 2013 - 7:28PM

    @aish:
    A perfect slap indeed !!

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  • Singh
    May 27, 2013 - 7:51PM

    @De: In this way even incest will be allowed one day
    Are you kidding? Islam does permit incest that why mostly Muslim marry their first cousin. Actually they prefer to marry their first cousin. I still couldn’t figure out how they call each other brother & sister in early age then marry to each other on later. It is mind boggling.
    Allah or God nobody have seen him or her so for. Why scare from a entity which is non-existence.
    ET……..Will you

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  • BitteOrca
    May 27, 2013 - 8:05PM

    Everyone who thinks along the lines of ‘they will be answerable to Allah’ and ‘they’re going to introduce corrupt ideas to children and society’ and try to define what religion means to two women they really know nothing about should take a good look at themselves; you are what’s wrong with the world today.

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  • dr j tipu
    May 27, 2013 - 8:08PM

    Give them a break guys, its their life and hence their own decisions…….if they truly love each other, then what better than to legalise their relationship!

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  • leela
    May 27, 2013 - 8:10PM

    Isn’t Islam religion of peace and tolerance? So why should these women be afraid of their co-religionists in Pakistan?

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  • antikhanimran
    May 27, 2013 - 8:18PM

    I love lesbins and gays atleast they don’t blow up innocent people in a market place and spoil the name of peaceful religion Islam. All the extremists do some research if you’ll are not aware taleban practice child sex with boys they have in their custody.

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  • Asad
    May 27, 2013 - 9:05PM

    Enlightened Moderation at its best

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  • Dr. A.K, Tewari
    May 27, 2013 - 9:14PM

    There are many animal insticnts still persisting in our gene pool despite of thousands of years of social evolution . Religions came in to existance to weed out these animal genes but could not do so psrticularly genes associated with sexual behavivour . Now religions seems to be bone of contention and threat to the world peace . Sexual behviour can be gradually regulated through the application of eugenics in long run but there are some religion who openly accept these genetically imbibed sexual distortions . The result is before us . Rape, molestation is now common on the street . On the name of progressive society , social acceptance to these acts could be fatal but it does not mean that we should not accommodate them , We should develop liberal attitude so far as sexul behaviour is concern . These acts can be ignored just by leveling them as personal afair and involed are not culprits . These things are very common as under current in our gene pool . The real culprits are those religion who allow these under currents to surface up ………?????

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  • Mj
    May 27, 2013 - 9:20PM

    It is quite interesting that child marriages are allowed yet marriage between two consenting adults of the same gender is not.

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  • waseem
    May 27, 2013 - 9:28PM

    I think, it is the technique to get British nationality and get publicity in free. Besides this, on the Name of Pakistan both will get lot of wealth from fool European sponsor

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  • Jyotika
    May 27, 2013 - 9:39PM

    While this is their personal decision . . . and religion has got nothing to do with it . . . the fact is same sex relationships are not natural and man and woman are not made that way.

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  • boco
    May 27, 2013 - 9:40PM

    Love is love and family is family regardless of the genders of the ones in the mix and its not like homosexuality doesn’t exist in nature because it does and yes – it is prohibited in Islam but then again its not like you all would burn in hellfire for someone else’s actions so calm down and get over it.

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  • Akshay
    May 27, 2013 - 9:47PM

    Extremely brave girls. May God give them blessings and a happy life.

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  • May 27, 2013 - 10:24PM

    @Naveed Alam Khattak:

    “Human being himself is a proof of the existence of Allah (God).”

    The people who write in those websites don’t know the workings of an internal combustion engine and they talk about Nature and Science and things they have never seen.

    Ask them about Science, they will say Science is derived from Religion, tell them about Evolution, they’ll call it a lie. Yet, they don’t hesitate a moment in visiting a doctor and taking pills which are derived from the very concept of Evolution and Genetics – from Science.

    Only if people believed in Science, more than they do in Religion the world would be a better place.

    As Marx once said: “Religion is the opium of the masses”.

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  • Gp65
    May 27, 2013 - 10:31PM

    @Shuayb Ganatra: You say kill the difference not he different. Would ou be good enough to say, why the difference sold be killed and why diversity should not be respected?

    @bilal: first of they have applied for asylum, the story does to say they have got it. Secondly, even if they did get asylum, all it means is that UK believes their lives would be in threat if they returned to Pakistan as openly gay. It does not mean either approval or disapproval of ay marriage. When Ahmadis get asylum in Germany, does it mean that Germans want to become Ahmadiya? No. It simply means they believe Ahmadiyas are oppressed and their lives too may be under threat.

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  • Gp65
    May 27, 2013 - 10:42PM

    Those that say they KNOW what happens after death, should restate that they have a belief about what happens after death. Your belief is different from my belief but clearly none of us can know which belief is right.

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  • A2Z
    May 27, 2013 - 10:46PM

    Copied from Sun, this is level of ET’s journalism

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  • someone
    May 27, 2013 - 10:47PM

    @De:
    Can you be sure of what happens after death? Did some one tell you about his/her after life experiences? What if , whatever being told to you about after life, is a blatant lie? Ever thought of it?

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  • someone
    May 27, 2013 - 10:52PM

    @De:
    But incest is allowed in Islam. Don’t you people marry your own cousins?

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  • vatican city
    May 27, 2013 - 11:31PM

    I don’t buy this story at all and if they get it there will be a flood of idiots claiming stories like this. You should actually lay low if you are under threat. But I can understand. The UK really is a nice place to live, people are pleasant. I think that is why they want to stay.

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  • Jamshed
    May 27, 2013 - 11:35PM

    @Abdullah Feroz:
    “….Remember Qaum i loot. It is not good thing for our culture and country…”

    Really? I would not advise you to take your young kids to Saudia and live there. When you don’t see women, what do you suppose the men do? Pray all day? Read and weep.

    http://www.arabnews.com/saudi-arabia/child-abuse-deaths-rise-2012

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  • Syed Hasan Atizaz
    May 27, 2013 - 11:52PM

    hope they don’t ever come back to Pakistan again, stay outside, stay happy..

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  • Observer
    May 28, 2013 - 12:00AM

    This is a new and interesting twist for asylum seekers. There will be a huge number of women from Muslim countries using this new technique of lesbianism to gain asylum in western countries. I am sure the gay men community is watching this too. We will soon see gay men couple applying for asylums.

    Having said that, gay or lesbianism is a personal matter. They have the right to choose their private lifestyles.

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  • startrek
    May 28, 2013 - 12:05AM

    @BruteForce:
    How do you know? What if there is no God? Science doesn’t talk about any such being.. There is no proof of its existence.
    Can you prove that there is no God?.How much science do we know.Has science discoverd every thing in universe?.
    If you can tollerate homosexuality then be fair to tolerate those who reject it on the basis of religion.

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  • syed
    May 28, 2013 - 12:06AM

    Allah has sent us in this world with free will. we can do anything we want. Allah has told us about consequences of our actions. only a believer will understand this. if you aren’t a believer then there is no point arguing. i just pray Allah opens your eyes before its too late.

    Koi to hai jo nizam e hasti chala raha hai, Wohi Khuda hai.

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  • startrek
    May 28, 2013 - 12:15AM

    @BruteForce:
    How do you know? What if there is no God? Science doesn’t talk about any such being.. There is no proof of its existence.
    Can you prove that there is no God?.How much science do we know.Has science discoverd every thing in universe?.
    If you can tollerate homosexuality then be fair to tolerate those who reject it on the basis of religion.Recommend

  • Haris Farooq Wattoo
    May 28, 2013 - 12:16AM

    Well its purely a personal matter and media should not give too much coverage.
    But personally I do not appreciate lesbian marriages, because this way you are depriving NOT one but TWO men from having conjugal relations with these otherwise pretty ladies. What a waste indeed.

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  • skhan
    May 28, 2013 - 12:54AM

    People pretending here it to be OK for Pakistani girls same sex marriage, should know that same-sex marriage is still NOT LEGAL in 38 out of 50 states of the USA !!! Being liberal is one thing, but please get your facts straight…
    I agree they should not go back to Pakistan due to death threats! BUT even a regular legal “Love Marriage” has serious consequences in Pakistan, couples get killed! So yes stay in UK now…

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  • a muslim
    May 28, 2013 - 1:05AM

    @Twit:
    The first human being, Adam (AS), was also the messenger of God. At that time the followers of Adam (AS) were muslims so islam came in this world with first human being.Since then God has sent many messengers throughout the ages and the followers of those messengers at their particular periods were muslims. Hence nobody born before the advent of islam in this world.
    Islam is the only true and acceptable religion before Allah as is created by Himself. Other religions are created by man himself under the influence of satan (devil).
    Homosexuality is a satanic deed, also created by humans under devil’s guidance.

    Science cannot give answer to every question. Don’t believe in science blindly.

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  • Yasser
    May 28, 2013 - 1:45AM

    Muslim Lesbian couple, highly absurd and pathetic comments by ET.
    Islam condone homosexuality and any such relationship is highly forbidden in Islam where the persons involved are subject to death sentence hence there are no such thing as Muslim lesbians or Muslim gays.

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  • Arifeen
    May 28, 2013 - 2:00AM

    Allah created human being but he give us brain to think & give us book of Guidelines,
    “this above story remind me “Qoume Looth”
    May Allah give us “Right Instructions” Aameen

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  • Waseem
    May 28, 2013 - 2:08AM

    I don’t understand the reactions here. Two people got married. yes, it is not allowed in Islam. They will have to answer to Allah. But isn’t that between Allah and the couple? Why are you all hyped up?

    Wish you were so furious when innocent people get killed by terrorists. Or is that less important an issue as this?

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  • FAHD ALI
    May 28, 2013 - 2:36AM

    They will get their Immigration and then separation to find their husbands. Shortest way to become British Citizen.

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  • Moiz
    May 28, 2013 - 3:17AM

    Congratulations and may you live a happy life herafter. And highly irresponsible of ET to publish their pictures online. And people saying homosexuality is forbidden in their religion should not practice it, simple; and let others live their lives as they please.

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  • Haider
    May 28, 2013 - 7:10AM

    @Atif: these are your iron-age beliefs, don’t impose them on all.

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  • Haider
    May 28, 2013 - 7:16AM

    @Sheraz: No it is not, visit Africa

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  • AHMAD
    May 28, 2013 - 7:17AM

    Islamic or unislamic, personal or not personal Pakistani or No Pakistani. This does not matter. What matter is, is it natural. I think everyone can agree on one point that it is unnatural. This process of same sex marriage if continues from where next generation will come. Is sole purpose of marriage is sex or family building?

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  • khan
    May 28, 2013 - 7:40AM

    lol thanks for the name and picture. here i come yellowbook.

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  • qhn
    May 28, 2013 - 7:50AM

    @BruteForce
    you can ‘feel’ the ‘love’ between a lesbian couple but you cannot feel the existence of God. how unfortunate!!

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  • syeda
    May 28, 2013 - 8:20AM

    It is funny to see how people are using name of Islam and Allah to justify this highly abhorrent situation. Islam very strictly prohibits homosexuality and there is no place for such disgusting acts in our religion. Hence these people shouldnt have the right to call themselves Muslim.

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  • Masood
    May 28, 2013 - 9:19AM

    @Usama Bin Ahmed:
    Lie. Qaum e Lout (Alaihi Salaam) did the same act act. they were gays. Allah rose them high till sky and then thrown them down to earth.

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  • Masood
    May 28, 2013 - 9:24AM

    @BruteForce:
    There is God. No one can create such a universe. can you? what Science says, Universe was created in result of a bang. then who created that bang? who created the sounds and the fire? can u? certainly not. Definitely, There is Allah!

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  • JA
    May 28, 2013 - 9:36AM

    Disgusting!!!!

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  • EAR
    May 28, 2013 - 9:53AM

    Aaaw I hope they find happiness where ever they decide to live and love. All I really hope is that Pakistan can one day be a country where people, whether straight or queer, can live peacefully and happily, and most importantly be accepted by our society.

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  • Saqib
    May 28, 2013 - 10:16AM

    It’s something totally personal and one should refrain commenting on it. I tell you, however, both will gain immense attention on media all around the globe, keeping UK citizen aside.

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  • May 28, 2013 - 11:30AM

    @Masood:

    “There is God. No one can create such a universe. can you?”

    Just because you don’t know the answer to something now, doesn’t mean you attach God’s name.

    In ancient times Eclipses were thought be God’s message. Now we know how and why they occur. Every 8 year old knows!

    Islam says Man came from God, now we know for sure Humans came from Apes. I don’t know if Science has ever disproved God, but it has certainly disproved a few Religions.

    About the Big Bang, Scientists know EXACTLY what happened. You might want to read Stephen Hawking first before saying absurd things.

    http://www.amazon.com/Briefer-History-Time-ebook/dp/B00351YEZS/ref=laB000AP5X0M1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1369722409&sr=1-4

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  • Muhammad Saleem Usmani
    May 28, 2013 - 12:58PM

    May Allah Almighty in all his magnanimity guide them to the true path. Islam prohibits homosexuality explicitly as this is the disease that will destroy the most fundamental unit of humanity, family.

    Some people say that no one has the right to judge, true, but no one should mix right with wrong. This is the basic ideology of human society, otherwise, how can you tell if someone robbed someone else because of a need or just to satisfy their criminal instincts.

    Our media is paid to bring these news to the fore, for their masters need their service to advance their agenda. May Allah help them to realize that their duty is towards this nation.

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  • Dr. Asad Sadick, Germany
    May 28, 2013 - 1:43PM

    @antanu: Never discussed lesbianism to be something sacred. On the contrary something very normal. Aetiolgy depends on many factors: 1. Genetics 2. Environment (family violence, child abuse etc) and 3. Social injustice. Maybe now you are able to understand this a bit better. Please don`t get personal. You are entitled to have your opinion, just like I am to mine.

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  • AA
    May 28, 2013 - 2:34PM

    @De:
    Homosexuality has been present since the start of time. It is not a ‘modern, western’ phenomenon. You cannot compare it to incest because there is no evidence to prove that siblings can actually fall in love.

    And why do you care about how they will bring up their kids if they ever have kids? They will bring them up presumably with love and care, and teach them not to hate others who are different from them.

    Please spend your time thinking about the countless kids who are being raising under fathers who are terrorists, being taught that killing an infidel will take them to heaven. WHy not concern yourself with worries about families where mothers are abused and killed, where fathers molest their little girls and boys, where girls are forcefully married off? All that is unislamic and corrupt. Not harmless love between two individuals who, I hope, will one day adopt a child and give it a loving home.

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  • Pakistani
    May 28, 2013 - 2:40PM

    Its there personal decision, no one allow to threaten them. but I should say one thing that Islam forbidden us homosexuality. The nation of Hazrat Loot (A.S) involved in the sin of homosexuality, Allah (JJ) vanished the whole nation by throwing the stones from the sky.

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  • AA
    May 28, 2013 - 2:43PM

    And for anyone who blindly believes that homosexuality is a sin, please look further into your religion. Before spreading hatred in the name of God, please read books like “Homosexuality in Islam: critical reflections on gay, lesbian and transgender muslim” by Scott Alan Kugle.

    http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/HomosexualityinIslam.html?id=q7GHQAAACAAJ&redir_esc=y

    As a strong Muslim, I request you to not make others who believe in a kind and merciful God, and who believe in human love, hate Islam without actually knowing anything about your religion.

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  • I am God
    May 28, 2013 - 3:14PM

    My blessings with them!!

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  • Tongue
    May 28, 2013 - 4:44PM

    @BruteForce:
    Kindly don’t dispute, nor interfere. No one is allowed to comment against Islam’s basic thoughts & believes.

    @ET: Kindly control such disputed comments.

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  • Yuri Kondratyuk
    May 28, 2013 - 5:09PM

    @Masood:
    My one true religion of Pastafarianism tells me that between the Earth and Mars a china teapot is revolving in an elliptical orbit.
    Disprove me if you can. I know it’s impossible to disprove me. You know why? Because my religion is the one and only one true religion.

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  • May 28, 2013 - 5:21PM

    @Tongue:

    To say there is no proof of God is unpalatable for you? To say that Evolution is true and hence all ancient documents which talk about the subject are wrong, that bothers you? Why do you want to bury your head in the sand intentionally?

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  • May 28, 2013 - 7:37PM

    @samar_yz: You are very right. But the typical thing about Muslims is that they expect and demand all human rights and democratic rights from all the countries of the world, specially Europe and America. They demand that they be allowed full religious freedom and have musjids etc. but the moment it comes to Pakistan or other Muslim countries all the human rights, democratic rights, rights of religious freedom are denied and people of other faiths are brutalized. I sincerely agree with you when it is said “We should become like UK’

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  • May 28, 2013 - 7:39PM

    Let Allah decide Sir but please tell us why are you jumping as if your pants are on fire. Comic is it not.

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  • Cynical
    May 28, 2013 - 9:05PM

    @a muslim

    @Twit
    “Homosexuality is a satanic deed, also created by humans under devil’s guidance.”

    Great discovery. One question though. What God was doing while satan and humans were playing out this little mischief? Was he just watching it or having a nap? .

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  • Tera
    May 28, 2013 - 10:57PM

    @abdul:
    I think you have been reading R.D. Liang a bit too much.

    All influence is immoral.

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  • The Voice of Logic
    May 29, 2013 - 3:22AM

    Exploring their sexuality, fair enough. Using Art.9 of the ECHR, the freedom of thought and conscince, makes sense; it’s there for a reason. Anyway, that’s hardly relevant. My main point of contention is that why must it be portrayed in such a way that is derogatory to Pakistan and also to Islam? Why is it such a big issue? Being against homosexuality is a social and moral stand of the people of Pakistan. Be it because of society or be it moulded by our religion, the point is that we have certain customs, and no one has the right to challenge our customs, or anyone else’s. Different localities in the world have their own customs. Respecting these customs is imperative in order to be aligned with contemporary rules of having your own opinion.
    Coming back to the issue, I believe that sure, go where you need to go, seek asylum from wherever you deem fit, just don’t put it in such a way that portrays a nation or religion as intolerant.
    I would like to pause here to add a few choice words: Fanatics need to relax. People making the threats have no idea how far they’re straying from the teachings of the very religion they are trying to protect.
    That being said, this issue is not one that needs to be publicized. The whole point of the couple moving to the UK was to get away from scrutiny and judgment. Now they’ve got a whole barrage of social-media based attacks headed their way.

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  • salman
    May 29, 2013 - 9:47AM

    ahh who cares…they got their asylum which they really want and planned for it..job done.

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  • Sad but true.....
    May 29, 2013 - 11:05AM

    Married and directly applied for Political asylum………raises more questions !!!!!

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  • Faraz
    May 29, 2013 - 11:17AM

    They have a freedom to choose whatever for themselves. However, they do not have any right to insist Islamic law accepts them. It is a sin for believers and individual freedom for non-believers.

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  • hasan
    May 29, 2013 - 11:19AM

    The West is happy to accept S.Asian women, but not too keen on the men!

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  • jack
    May 29, 2013 - 11:04PM

    @hasan
    “The West is happy to accept S.Asian women, but not too keen on the men!”

    Why only west? Invaders from Central Asia, Middle East, Pershians, Mongols etc. all were kind to S.Asian women. However, men were not so lucky. Sad that their progeny suffer from a collective amnesia on this part of history.

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  • Rashid
    May 29, 2013 - 11:35PM

    @gp65

    “Your belief is different from my belief but clearly none of us can know which belief is right.”

    Looks like you are groping in the dark, clinging to a belief not knowing if it’s right. I thought each of you know that at the least your own belief is right.
    While knowledge is limited even for the best of us, ignorance has no limit for the unwashed.

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  • Adil
    May 30, 2013 - 12:37AM

    Just a way to claim asylum n settle in England. Smart move!

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  • Yuri Kondratyuk
    May 30, 2013 - 10:41AM

    @Rashid:

    While knowledge is limited even for
    the best of us, ignorance has no limit
    for the unwashed.

    Guess you were washed by someone who knows that sun sets in a dirty pond

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  • Rashid
    May 30, 2013 - 12:32PM

    @Yuri Kondratyuk

    “Guess you were washed by someone who knows that sun sets in a dirty pond.”

    Does it even qualify as a response? Did I appear like a believer?
    I am familiar with your comments. You are certainly capable of better than this.

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  • Jun 5, 2013 - 9:23AM

    They probably haven’t studied the religion, else they would have learned about qom e loot @Usama Bin Ahmed:

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  • Jun 5, 2013 - 9:25AM

    How do you think Allah will protect them when breaking Allah order? I’m sure if you are not one of this kind you will understand. @shehnaz hussain:

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  • Jun 5, 2013 - 8:04PM

    @Someone: I admire your total faith in Allah. But if you really have total faith in Allah and his ‘kaarsazi’ then please accept that these lesbians are also HIS creation and they are on this earth because Allah desired so. Then Sir why would Allah punish them….. HIS own creation. Any reply Sir?

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  • Bali Naqvi
    Jun 14, 2013 - 1:52PM

    Islam teaches that homosexual acts are sinful and punishable by ALLAH.
    This is very shameful. I wonder how people who call them Muslim can call them BRAVE.
    Those who saying it’s their personal life, shall not forget they called them Muslim, will anyone here allow your Muslim daughters, sisters to do the same? Will you encourage them then?
    Punishment is to given by Allah, but such sins are not act of bravery, and must be discouraged .

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  • Jun 17, 2013 - 4:18AM

    Seriously guys….U can Justify yourselves in the eyes of the self-righteous “modern, broad-minded people” (the very ppl who applaud this sinful action), but not through the law of the supernatural, almighty power who rules over the world (whether u believe it or not). What saddens me more that even my country Pakistan is succumbing to the sexual perversions originated in and practiced in the wild west. Iam a Christian, and from what i know about my and other faiths, none of them condone this sinful and sick disease. Three cheers for the women who have disgraced the name of our land by identifying with a perversion that has degraded them below the level of animals!

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