Killing without passion, war without valour

Published: March 8, 2013

The writer retired as professor of physics from Quaid-e-Azam University, Islamabad

Old memories: on September 6, 1965, our class teacher at Karachi Grammar School announced that India had invaded Pakistan and that President Ayub Khan had declared war. I whooped with joy, but it wasn’t because I hated Indians. My delight came from the delicious anticipation of the battles now to be fought with fighter aircraft, tanks and warships. Best of all, we’d now see more deeds of valour and more heroes of war like Major Tufail Muhammed, my number one hero. For years I had read of his epic fight in different newspapers and magazines. Machine gun bullets had ripped through his stomach while his company was fighting off Indian intruders from across the border into East Pakistan. But the Major kept throwing grenades and finally killed an enemy commander by pounding him with his helmet.

The declaration of war was a young boy’s dream come true. Pumping the pedals furiously, I bicycled the distance from Soldier Bazaar to the PAF Recruiting Centre on Ingle Road in record time. Disappointed when I was told that I was too young at 15 to enlist in the air force, I rushed to Napier Barracks only to have a friendly major chuckle and refuse my proffered services to the army. My neighbourhood’s civil defence team was the highest to which I could rise, and hearing ack-ack guns firing at Indian bombers over Karachi was the closest I ever got to seeing action.

Decades later, I can coolly reflect upon my earlier enthusiasm for blood and sacrifice. It was no different from what a lot of young people everywhere have within them. War, aggression and territoriality are instincts that all primates — particularly libidinous males — have inherited from our early ape ancestors. Equipped by Nature with a limbic system, a primitive part of our brains operates below the horizon of consciousness. Survival needs had made it necessary for humans to be programmed to feel fear and rage, making it easy to kill when emotions are suitably aroused.

But what if emotions are not aroused? This issue is epitomised by the soulless killing machines called drones that endlessly circle the skies over Waziristan. They are piloted remotely from 6,000-7,000 miles away at some air force base in the United States. The drone pilots are normal office workers, not warriors. These men and women, safely out of harm’s way, return home daily to sleep in the same bed. The unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) they control with joysticks await a target patiently, swoop down to a few thousand feet, release a missile and then climb back to safety. Their targets — Taliban and al Qaeda militants — have been trained almost from birth to kill or be killed. But they are no match for the drones; these men of war have rightly learned to fear the new robotic weapons. Of course, so do innocents who know that they too, could be blown up mistakenly.

Drones have followed naturally from earlier robotic weapons. Perhaps, the World War II acoustic torpedo, whether launched by a submarine or air-dropped, was the first truly robotic weapon. You turned it lose and it would mercilessly hunt down its prey — a naval vessel or a merchant ship — and terminate it. But ultimately, it too needed a human to select the target. Killing by drones is no different from killing by piloted aircraft or computerised long-range artillery. Now this, too, is about to change.

In the next generation, beyond drones lie the so-called “fully autonomous” weapons. Perhaps, 20 years away or less, they are already the subject of debate. The Pentagon has said it will certainly proceed to develop and acquire them, while the Human Rights Watch is saying that they should be banned. Sometimes called killer robots, these are weapon systems that will function without human intervention. Neither passion nor compassion will affect what they do. In a fraction of a second, the armed robot will itself select the target, track it and then determine when to fire. Humans will be unnecessary, except for deciding upon the algorithm that the robot needs for telling friend from foe.

In a world where battles will be fought by silicon chips, there can be no heroes and martyrs — just victims. For the most part, technology has dispensed with the need for hand-to-hand combat, to walk through the mud, or to smell the blood. Ever more clinical and devoid of passion, the act of killing no longer requires anger and rage. Instead, the decision to kill will be cool and calculated. So, will this reduce the desire to hurt, maim, or kill other members of the human species? Is this good news or bad?

Good, if one follows the logic of Stephen Pinker. This well-known cognitive scientist at Harvard has amassed impressive quantitative evidence that the world of the past, which had just swords and spears, was much worse than the present. Wars between developed countries have vanished and, even in the developing world, wars kill only a fraction of the people they did a few decades ago. Of course, the world is not peaceful everywhere, such as here in Pakistan, but on average, it is more peaceful. The decline of violence, Pinker argues, owes to our “better angels” that steer us away from our “inner demons” that incline us towards revenge, sadism and tribalism.

It is these “better angels” to whom we must turn if we want our country to become peaceful some day. In the age of face-to-face fighting, it perhaps made sense to talk of courage and gallantry. But in the age of science, believing in heroes and martyrs is futile. Killing is merely technical work, valour is a meaningless concept and war is stupid and irrational. While our emotions resemble those of our remote ancestors who clubbed and beat one another to death, cultural evolution has drastically changed all the conditions of human life. So, let us de-glorify war and remove the military junk littering our roads and public squares. Both nationalism and war have become highly dangerous anachronisms.

Published in The Express Tribune, March 9th, 2013.

Reader Comments (53)

  • ruby
    Mar 8, 2013 - 10:26PM

    There is a hint of paranoia in suggesting that fully automated drones are going to be deployed in the short future or even the far future. The American public will never allow that. And let them drive the automated car first.

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  • Uzair
    Mar 8, 2013 - 10:27PM

    Well written Prof. Hoodbhoy. Growing up I too idolized military forces and weapons of war (now it is only a passing technical interest in military hardware). I used to daydream about rescuing the hapless Kashmiries from the evil Indians. Now as an adult I know I was brainwashed by our education system (thanks to Zia and his political heirs), and there is nothing glorious about war.

    In your article closing you made a supremely valid point: we should remove all the monuments to war and killing that litter our cities. Missiles that carry warheads capable of slaughtering a million souls are no artistic beauties to place in our Capital’s roundabouts! In fact the worship of such symbols of destruction (swords, Ak47s, missiles) only belies are psycopathic mindset and our aversion to peace and rationality.

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  • Lyari
    Mar 8, 2013 - 10:27PM

    I couldn’t agree more with Pervez Hoodbhoy, but I believe we need valor to fight poverty and ignorance…

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  • Irony
    Mar 8, 2013 - 10:50PM

    U also know that all wars were initiated by Pakistan and not by India. Just FYI.

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  • Foreign Leg
    Mar 8, 2013 - 11:32PM

    @Author: I share your reasoning and I hope your countrymen would read the latter half as well as they do the first half.
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    Drones did not exist in the aftermath of 9/11. They happened only when Pervez Musharraf started depicting N. and S. Waziristan (basically the FATA areas) as a wild, wild west frontier where even the vaunted Pakistani army could not enter. Having to face an irresponsible ally who wanted to be duplicitous, the Americans had no option but to say that if you cannot, we will. Today the biggest opposition to the drone program is not Kaptaan but US Representatives of Congress and Senate such as Rand Paul.
    .
    These are the days of asymmetric warfare. In the days of yore, wars would be heavily dependent on the number of infantrymen. The one who had the most would generally win unless he (and it was mostly he) had extraordinarily brave soldiers.
    .
    Fast forward to day and a nuke could kill much more than a multitude of infantrymen could. But even if a nuke were dropped, can a country win a war? The answer is an emphatic NO. Indians are well aware of it. Even as a minority, I know about the “Brahmastra” in the Mahabharata — The one who uses it is cursed for life.

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  • Dev
    Mar 8, 2013 - 11:55PM

    I had a friend who wanted to fight for Kashmir in his teenage and now as he is adult , i hardly see any of such emotion in him. Yes this was also due to brainwash by our education system.

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  • Mj
    Mar 9, 2013 - 12:00AM

    Good article. I have often wondered why our public places are so militarized from names of localities such as Defence, Cantonments, to names of roads named after acts of wars or fallen soldiers. Now the naming convention can be excused as many of these areas have at some point in time belonged to the army. However, I cannot fathom why we need to have garish models of our missiles and tanks at multiple locations.

    A parallel can be made between the militarization of Pakistani society and that of North Korea. Both populations fear an invisible and largely nonexistent enemy and revere the ‘establishment’ which has muddled the nation’s objective of progress, prosperity, and cordial relations with other nations. The North Koreans also probably hear non-stop about how their nation occupies an important geostrategic position, and how the ‘evil west’ is conspiring to keep that great nation down, while our neighbors progress and leave us in the dust. It is a sad state of affairs that our supposedly free media is no better than NK’s at informing and education the populace. There can be no peace until we stop glorifying war and warfare through school books, media, and the public space. Japan went from a militant jingoist society to a pacifist and forward looking one within a couple decades. If Japan can do it then so can we.

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  • Mustafa Kamal
    Mar 9, 2013 - 12:11AM

    Thanks Dr. Sahib for this brilliant piece.

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  • Rex Minor
    Mar 9, 2013 - 12:33AM

    A man of Natural science should know the basic law of physic; the world has always been moving from order to disorder. strange that you wish orderly past. The present does not exist as we breath and write, we have the technical expertise to enter into the unknown future, but we dare not since we are unable to return if need be.

    Our early ancestors were not Apes. The modern Homo sapiean was developed in the Arabian land and not in Africa as previousy thought, the latest discoveries of the anthropologists. The land where garden of Eden existed. Besides the signals which the drone opeartors send to kill simutaneously receive electronic signals causing unusual turbuances in the USA climatic conditions including death and destruction..

    Rex Minor

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  • gp65
    Mar 9, 2013 - 1:10AM

    @Foreign Leg: I agree with most of what you say but I would like to point out that the 13 hour fillibuster by Rand Paul during Brennan’s confirmation hearing was to get a commitment from the US President that drones would never be used on American soil against American citizens. HE wasn’t speaking on behalf of Pakistan – although his father Ron Paul has spoken against drones in Pakistan.

    @Author: You may have been told in 1965 that India had attacked Pakistan. But now you know better. Should you at least not have referred to the fact that you had been misinformed then and it was in fact Pakistan that started the war?

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  • Hopefull.Individual
    Mar 9, 2013 - 1:49AM

    War is when the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other. So live and let live I always say!

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  • G. Din
    Mar 9, 2013 - 2:34AM

    ” In a fraction of a second, the armed robot will itself select the target, track it and then determine when to fire. Humans will be unnecessary, except for deciding upon the algorithm that the robot needs for telling friend from foe.”
    Now, my dear author, how is that any different from what was in the past or what is in the present. WWII was started by a mad man. Wasn’t he the man who “programmed his robots” with an algorithm of “Aryan superiority”? So, when his “robots” spied a “non-Aryan” they pounced and killed. His “robots” might have been humanoid in form but they were every bit as “robotic” as the present day “robots”, weren’t they? This holds every bit for the current “Islamic robots”, too!
    “In a world where battles will be fought by silicon chips, there can be no heroes and martyrs — just victims. “
    Oh, there will be martyrs aplenty. All victims will be designated martyrs and awarded “Nishana-i-jurrat”. In fact, in a way, you have already shown the way!
    ” Both nationalism and war have become highly dangerous anachronisms.”
    That is a rather strange statement coming from a scientist of some repute. Nationalism and war are perfectly chronological. One always follows – chronologically – the other!
    It might be of some interest to you and the readers to know that drone submarines are now under development which will roam the seas of the world undetected for years without touching their home base. Here is an opportunity for small nations like Pakistan to save: scrap their small, largely ineffective, navies.

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  • sabi
    Mar 9, 2013 - 2:54AM

    When Enstein was asked his views about third world war (atomic war) he said nothing but disclosed that forth world war will be fought with stones and sticks.I think the way this world is behaving atomic war will not leave any room for robotic war.Yes the cloud of atomic war are looming on our heads whether we see it or not.End of present civilisation to pave way for new civilisation perhaps better and more sustainable and more peacefull.

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  • Arifq
    Mar 9, 2013 - 3:06AM

    Pacifism can work when people are prosperous, free to choose or reject conventional ideas and yet be willing to accept opposing ideologies in a civilized environment. Not going to happen in Pakistan that lacks in basic amenities, suffers from terrible unemployment, intolerant of opposing ideas, condones death in the name of religion and idolizes power. Even though I have great respect for the honorable professor but will have to disagree on this subject. We are at war both internally and externally, pacifism is the last thing we can afford.

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  • A. N Baloch
    Mar 9, 2013 - 4:02AM

    @gp65:

    The 1965 War was not started by India, it was our meddling in Kashmir that provoked India to attack on western border. Asghar Khan is living proof of this fact.

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  • RAW is WAR
    Mar 9, 2013 - 6:04AM

    good article.

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  • naeem khan Manhattan,Ks
    Mar 9, 2013 - 7:01AM

    @Irony: Just read the history, Indira Ghandi planed the war in East Pakistan far ahead of time, you Indians profess to be peace loving people but ask the people from Assam,Goa and Kashmir, why thousands of those people are killed for what reason, think about it, you people always blame Pakistan for all the ills your country India faced or facing.

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  • Mirza
    Mar 9, 2013 - 7:52AM

    An Op Ed off the beaten track and I like it a lot. In almost half a century the wars have changed and so did the image of our army. Now the war and actual power comes not from the barrel of the gun but from the economic progress, science and technology. If we do not wake up we would continue sliding downhill with no hope.

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  • observer
    Mar 9, 2013 - 9:15AM

    @Rex Minor:

    Besides the signals which the drone opeartors send to kill simutaneously receive electronic signals causing unusual turbuances in the USA climatic conditions including death and destruction.

    “.Climatic conditions including death and destruction”

    My vote for Nobel Prize for Physics goes to Rex Minor.

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  • Pankaj
    Mar 9, 2013 - 9:29AM

    Dear SIr
    .
    The 1965 war was the Biggest mistake made by Pakistan
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    Indians realised that Pakistan will Not allow India to live in peace
    so we had to sort out the problem called Pakistan
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    If Pakistan had NOT attacked India in 1965 India would NOT have
    done 1971

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  • Gp65
    Mar 9, 2013 - 10:08AM

    @A. N Baloch:
    Correct. That was my point as well. But the professor in his article said the contrary and I am questioning that.

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  • Naveed Tajammal
    Mar 9, 2013 - 12:54PM

    The logic and argument aside,as propounded by ‘hoodbhoy’,what he fails to perceive,’is
    that,the Americans alone,will’ not forever remain ‘masters in this world of futuristic ‘chip’ technology warfare,as projected by ‘hoodbhoy’.In the due course of Time’,as it happened in the field of nuclear technology,counter-measures did emerge,Such has
    been the ,”ingenuity’ of the human mind,he being a former, scientist,should know better,Now’ if the aim of this article,is to frighten,”us” in a submission,of unknown,in a ‘subtle’ way as ,”they’ usually do,and aim at’.And yet,they forget that,’This temporary supremacy will end and reach its logical end,as larger empires,in which the sun never set too,ended.
    Hoodbhoy’ working for the ‘Carnegie Mellon university’,as given in his profile,has indeed,done his utmost to please his Master’s ,Who’,remain as always behind the veil.
    In history there never has,been a shortage of lackeys,a fact it seems,beyond the comprehension of our seemingly well wishing writer,under discussion ?
    Regards & wishes,ofcourse to the writer as well !
    Naveed Tajammal,

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  • Have a Break !!
    Mar 9, 2013 - 12:57PM

    Indeed we need to honour all those who have served the country in science, literature, arts, however, this should not mean that we forget our war heroes…..One way of honouring our outstanding individuals in every field is to erect a plaque at their place of residence etc…..We could have such plaques at the residences of Ashfaq Ahmad, Munir Niazi, Moin Akhtar, Faiz Ahmad Faiz, Ahmad Faraz, Samar Mubarakmand, AQ Khan, even sportsmen, artistst etc….so they serve a constant reminder to passersby that such people are remembered by the socieity and would encourage youngsters to emulate them. In UK, this is done by the government by installing a “blue plaque”….http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_plaque……We could use a “Green Plaque” !!!!

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  • Sharjeel Jawaid
    Mar 9, 2013 - 1:05PM

    The catasrophe of 1971 was a direct consequence of our blunders in 1965.

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  • Lil Mosh
    Mar 9, 2013 - 1:32PM

    Although i have a deep admiration and respect for the author,i cant understand and thus get confused why the Dr supports Darwinism by indirectly portraying Adam (as) and Hawa (as) as Apes!!
    Otherwise the article was thought provoking!!

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  • Abrar Khan
    Mar 9, 2013 - 1:44PM

    @Pankaj: What was the reason for Training, Financing and providing material support to Tamil Tigers in 30 long year of war imposed upon Sri Lanka. ? They did not attack India. I think India would have involved in 1971 act of State terrorism anyway regardless exactly in the same manner as Making of Tamil Tigers. It is still doing it In shape of Balochistan Terrorism. I think it is very important for Pakistan to keep the Nuclear Deterance for the Hindu State and use it at the last resort IF Hindu State gets into another such misadventure by making sure Nothing absolutely will remain of the Hindu state after that war. Until that threat is clear, there will be No peace In the region. Peace is Not In the Blood Of Hindu.Only language he understands is DETERANCE.

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  • amoghavarsha.ii
    Mar 9, 2013 - 3:17PM

    @author,
    This is one of those articles which I feel will be a jewel in your list of articles.
    strictly being on a straightline, not comparing or favouring any country.
    Strictly to the point, bringing around the examples back to the point of article.

    To me, as I see the various turmoils and wars of the human world,
    I find
    1. Discussing grevences and winning argument is much much more difficult.
    That is the reason lazy minds go to war.

    Culture and development of society plays the most imortant role in pushing humans to the difficult task of arguments and discussion.
    culture of tolerating others views and multi cultural societies interlinked closely to a mesh.

    Greater Knowledge of the power in oneself and the amount of destruction/use it causes had also pushed humans to go for discusion , listen to arguments without getting excited.
    Humans had always used right kind of implements for right job, like they used bows to hunt fast animals and spears to hund tough skins.

    I think the Greatest example of this is Emperror Ashoka , The Great. Nobody has seen in his own lifetime so much destruction and changed himself without any persuation or force.

    So it is the responsibility of the ” Better Angels ” to show a mirror to the not so knowledgeable brethrens about the advantages of arguments and discussions.

    I think the Author should defenitely write more about it here in ET and also specifically in varnaculars.

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  • mind control
    Mar 9, 2013 - 3:43PM

    @Author

    Taliban and al Qaeda militants — have been trained almost from birth to kill or be killed. But they are no match for the drones; these men of war have rightly learned to fear the new robotic weapons. Of course, so do innocents who know that they too, could be blown up mistakenly.

    Sir,

    A couple of clarifications seem to be in order.

    A. Even the Taliban/Al Qaeda militants have abandoned the ‘valour’ of hand to hand and face to face combat in favour of remotely triggered IEDs. Quetta and Karachi being self evident. So the only difference is the distance from which the ‘attack’ is triggered.

    B. Drones, at least, try to acquire a ‘target’ after some visual/electronic verification. IEDs are more indiscriminate in the ‘acquisition’ of their targets.

    C. Innocents have learned to fear both of the adversaries- Drones and Taliban/Al Qaeda ‘warriors’. The people of NWA fear one and the rest of Pakistan, if fact the rest of the world, fears the other.Recommend

  • Haider
    Mar 9, 2013 - 5:02PM

    Well written Dr,Sahb. I was expecting to see a line suggesting to develop ourselves in technology. Can you please mention the no of army in developed countries like USA, UK, Russia etc?
    Secondly the hand that operates the joy sticks that fly the drones are of army men/women or civilians?

    I am a young professional working in middle east and I have analysed the behavior of different nations. I have judged two types of nations
    i) Just eat well, either you have to serve your enemy
    ii) Live freely either you have to go for thinning to bone due to hunger..!!

    Dr.Sahb decision is yours which way of life you like and which way of life you want to live from the people who admire you.!!
    A young admirer of yours..!!

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  • ahmed41
    Mar 9, 2013 - 5:04PM

    Can not regional problems be solved without war and mass killings ?

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  • G. Din
    Mar 9, 2013 - 6:17PM

    @sabi:
    “I think the way this world is behaving atomic war will not leave any room for robotic war.”
    On the contrary! When the madness has worn itself out, it will be the armies of the robots that will be sent in to clean up the mess. Robotics has a brilliant future, even more brilliant if a nuclear war does come to pass.

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  • Rex Minor
    Mar 9, 2013 - 6:20PM

    @ahmed41:
    @Foreign Leg:

    Peace is the standard option for all conflicts War does not solve conflicts bust causes them and those who choose this route are the one who meet destruction.

    Rex Minor

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  • Faisal
    Mar 9, 2013 - 8:18PM

    Suppose India does choke up our rivers? We don’t have drones. Will we go and fight? What solution does the wise professor have for this or such like predicament.

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  • Rex Minor
    Mar 10, 2013 - 4:46AM

    @mind control:

    General Warburton had closer experience with the so called Pashtunsor Afghans or Talibans who had to live under the slow speed flying machines without fear and were successful in bringing them down with pilots with sniper bullets. They fear no one and this gives them the advantage. They are far advanced in robot techniques, and have successfully developed cloned humans who walk into the enemy and explode without leaving a trace. Thousands of years have passed there were thoe who invaded foreign lands with flying dragons spitting fire and they were also brought down by the warriors in the lands of avatars.

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  • Foreign Leg
    Mar 10, 2013 - 10:39AM

    @gp65: Right you are. For obvious reasons, I hadn’t gone through the filibuster speech in its entirety.

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  • gp65
    Mar 10, 2013 - 11:22AM

    @Abrar Khan: “@Pankaj: What was the reason for Training, Financing and providing material support to Tamil Tigers in 30 long year of war imposed upon Sri Lanka. ? They did not attack India. “

    Sri Lanka’s war against LTTE was indeed 30 years long but India’s support for LTTE wasn’t. India supported LTTE in early 80s when India was getting a lot of Tamil refugees. After seeing LTTE’s approach where they even assassinated other Tamil moderate advocates from groups like TULF, India changed its approach. It partnered with Sri Lankan government by sending IPKF (Indian peace keeping force – that on one hand would protect the Tamilian civilians but also on another hand prevent LTTE based terror. This is the reason that LTTE assassinated Rajiv Gandhi in 1991.

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  • rehmat
    Mar 10, 2013 - 11:24AM

    @Rex Minor: “Peace is the standard option for all conflicts War does not solve conflicts bust causes them and those who choose this route are the one who meet destruction.”

    Pakistan started all wars with India so this is good advice for PAkistan

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  • bmniac
    Mar 10, 2013 - 12:18PM

    Professor Hoodbhoy You exemplify the epitome of wisdom. One can only hope that you words are not wasted like drops of rain on desert soil.

    Both nationalism and war have become highly dangerous anachronisms.
    Perhaps the omission of fanatical religion was deliberate so that it is noticed?

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  • mind control
    Mar 10, 2013 - 2:40PM

    @Rex Minor:

    Talibans who had to live under the slow speed flying machines without fear and were successful in bringing them down with pilots with sniper bullets. They are far advanced in robot techniques, and have successfully developed cloned humans who walk into the enemy and explode without leaving a trace.

    And my vote for Nobel in Medicine/Genetics also goes to Rex Minor.

    Incidentally, ‘Taliban’ is the plural of ‘Talib’. So ‘Talibans’ is a bit of an overkill.

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  • Rex Minor
    Mar 10, 2013 - 4:15PM

    @rehmat:
    Not true! Indian Congress were the one who declared war on Pakistan when they aborted the agreement of majority muslim rule .They are still sitting in Kashmir with their miitary.
    They have exploited the tolerence of Pakistan rulers since partition.

    Rex Minor

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  • Rex Minor
    Mar 10, 2013 - 4:34PM

    @mind control:

    The name Taliban is no longer used as a plural for talib.. It has a wider meaning. There are taliban Indian leaders as there are in other parts of the world, the extreme right class.
    Knowlege is a virtue.

    Rex Minor

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  • observer
    Mar 10, 2013 - 7:36PM

    @Rex Minor:

    and have successfully developed cloned humans who walk into the enemy and explode without leaving a trace.
    Knowlege is a virtue.

    Yes.

    Specially ‘Knowledge’ of cloning fully formed suicide bombers who explode without leaving any trace.

    How about imparting this knowledge?

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  • Mar 10, 2013 - 7:46PM

    @A. N Baloch:
    What has Asghar khan to do with the 1965 war ? he had been thrown out for his,cowardice in the Rann of Kutch affair,much before the september 1965 war,Nur khan was the commander in chief Airforce in the War.

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  • mind control
    Mar 10, 2013 - 8:12PM

    @Rex Minor:

    A. They are far advanced in robot techniques, and have successfully developed cloned humans who walk into the enemy and explode without leaving a trace.

    There are taliban Indian leaders as there are in other parts of the world, the extreme right class.
    Knowlege is a virtue.

    And these ‘Taliban Indian Leaders’8 have *’developed cloned humans who walk into the enemy and explode without leaving a trace’?

    Your ‘Knowledge’ of such things indeed indicates ‘Easy Virtue’.

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  • Komal S
    Mar 10, 2013 - 10:29PM

    @Abrar Khan:
    If you do not understand Sri Lankan tamil issue, please do not talk about it. I am kind of appalled that you guys write your own history that suits your convenience.

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  • Rex Minor
    Mar 10, 2013 - 10:50PM

    @observer:

    If you are commenting on Prof Houdbhoy’s article then I take it that you are a scientist as well. Your curiosity, however tells me that this is not the case. I am the wrong address for your snotty cynacism.

    Rex Minor

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  • A Peshawary
    Mar 11, 2013 - 12:52PM

    In-spite reading reading twice could understand the message in the article. Not worth commenting,

    A Peshawary

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  • observer
    Mar 11, 2013 - 2:59PM

    @Rex Minor:

    If you are commenting on Prof Houdbhoy’s article then I take it that you are a scientist as well. Your curiosity, however tells me that this is not the case. I am the wrong address for your snotty cynacism.

    A. Professor Hoodbhoy has not mentioned cloned humans who walk into the enemy and explode without leaving a trace. You have.

    B. Therefore, you are the right address for gaining knowledge about such clones.

    C. Incidentally it is ‘Snooty’ and ‘Cynicism’

    Knowledge may and may not be virtue, but Ignorance certainly is bliss.

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  • Rex Minor
    Mar 11, 2013 - 4:13PM

    @observer:

    Professor Houdbhoy does not give an iota of knowledge without a payment He did not mentor any student for Phd as well, I am trying to provide what an individual with right receptors can follow, and without receiving any payment.The sceptics and the cynics are not prepared for enlightenment.

    Rex Minor

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  • Solomon2
    Mar 11, 2013 - 6:36PM

    “…let us de-glorify war and remove the military junk littering our roads and public squares. Both nationalism and war have become highly dangerous anachronisms.

    Nationalism is not necessarily aggressive – but Mr. Hoodbhoy thinks Pakistani nationalism is. Therefore if Pakistan is to exist at peace with itself and its neighbors it’s going to have to re-craft its identity away from the course set by Z.A. Bhutto and General Zia.

    The paradox is that few people in power can think of such a course to sufficiently distinguish Pakistan from India without fear of giving up their power and privileges, yet not doing so leaves a void in the social contract and thus encourages the very separatism, terrorism, and lawlessness that also threatens their power and privileges. So lacking courage to change course they corruptly gather what fruits they can and stash them abroad for their later retirement, or find a way to join the gangs themselves, and thus the State continues to disintegrate.

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  • Rex Minor
    Mar 11, 2013 - 9:42PM

    @Solomon2:

    The soloman advice if it does not affect you. But please allow me, an observer, to ask a simple question. What should Pakistan do with the nuclear loly pops with short and long range delivery vehicles? Put them in the museum?

    Rex Minor

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  • Mar 18, 2013 - 10:39PM

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