Indian firing kills yet another soldier on LoC: ISPR

Published: January 16, 2013

Pakistan army says the soldier was killed at a position called Kundi. PHOTO: AFP

ISLAMABAD: Indian troops allegedly killed another Pakistan soldier in the disputed territory of Kashmir late on Tuesday, the army said.

The soldier was killed at a position called Kundi during firing from the Indian side that began at 10 pm local time, army said in a statement.

He was the fifth soldier reported killed in Kashmir in recent weeks but politicians on both sides have said the skirmishes should not derail a bilateral peace process.

Last week, India killed at least three Pakistani soldiers with retaliatory firing from Pakistan troops killing two Indian soldiers in between.

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Reader Comments (77)

  • Hammad Mian
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:06AM

    Pak Army must teach the idiots drastic lesson

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  • Nitin Gandhi
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:07AM

    Pak Army Desperately trying help the Militants to cross the Border, Firing at borders are Cover fires for beloved militants…Nothing else!!!! Simple…. Pak army is under lot of pressure from these militants…

    and this will go on and on………. until pak army stop supporting them

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  • yasiry2j
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:08AM

    I am waiting for an Indian to comment,”yes we have the right to defend our selves” but if our soliders give a reply they chicken out and stop every relation with us

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  • What
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:14AM

    Aman Ki Asha coming along nicely eh? So Endian Tribune…who do you blame for these repeated LoC violations? Pak “establishment” or LeT? After all India would never violate ceasefire and Indian aggression was always a myth concocted by our “establishment”, right?

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  • No Pir No Bulle Shah
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:17AM

    @yasiry2j: Don’t be selective in your judgements. India didn’t severe relationship due to deaths on the border but rather the beheading of one of her soldiers. That kind of barbaric treatment to soldiers of any nation is unacceptable.

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  • FK
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:17AM

    as we are in a state of confusion from within. this LOC skirmish is unjustified and should be put to halt. It will benefit us cause we will again unite under the flag once again.

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  • Omar
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:18AM

    Does anyone feel like this is just a “Wag the Dog” tactic by the PPP to take attention away from our internal problems?

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  • Shahzad
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:20AM

    @ Indians: Have we started superhuman militants or we are helping a robotic army to iniltrate? Do you think in this bone crushing cold and snow it is possible for the infiltrator to survive? Make comments which atleast a bit of sense!Recommend

  • haris bin saeed
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:20AM

    India u dnt know what u have done now! u will be given a very powerful reply and the life of our soldier will not be wasted in vain. Get ready for some reaction now. If u think that our internal problems are gonna effect our unity in your case then its your mistake. We will stand united when we are threatened from any outside threat specially when its you India. Mind it.

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  • O2
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:20AM

    ever since Pak won the series, indian army has gone bonkers on LoC since jan 6! Now, if PakArmy retaliates then please don’t come crying here or don’t cry on your media that we killed one of yours.

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  • Hamid Gul
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:21AM

    Pakistan is a useless and hopeless nation, it’s own people do not have any hopes.. so how can it generate hope for someone else, there so called coward “FREEDOM FIGHTERS” are sending a bad name for the Muslims all over because Islam never preaches killing, in fact no religion preaches killing!! So these useless morons are devastating Pakistan and Pakistan failing (or pretending) to realise that it is digging it’s own grave and will fall into it pretty soon!!

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  • O2
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:25AM

    @Hamid Gul:
    chicken, come with your real Indian name.

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  • Omar
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:28AM

    It’s time to teach these cowards a lesson.
    Pakistan fauj zindabad.

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  • Omar
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:29AM

    @Hamid Gul:
    We know your a Indian and are just using the name of humid gul.
    Please go to an Indian wesbite

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  • Mozilla
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:31AM

    *Indians must be taught a lesson now.*

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  • Misery Ghalib
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:37AM

    @yasiry2j: watch ndtv.com – the indians are angry about beheading of soldier – as done by ilias kashmiri before – they are not complaining about soldier dying.

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  • Narinder Modi
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:38AM

    This is just a trailer Get ready to see a full film coming to you very soon

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  • Qaisrani
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:40AM

    hye Pak army, why you are holding your horses and telling us that one more Pakistani soldier has passed away. Come on, we want peace with India but they are crossing the limits. We want similar statements like Indian Army chief by General Kyani as well. An eye for eye will make the world better place to live on.
    Long Live Pakistan.

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  • h.sayeed
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:43AM

    reply to Hamid Gul; if u know the real man he will say over the dead body of bharat mata………why dont u show ur real indian face and dont hide behind some one else nameRecommend

  • Mohammad Ali Siddiqui
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:46AM

    The hate and anger between Pakistan and India is going on since August 14, 1947 when Pakistan became independent state.

    Since then Pakistan fought three defensive wars with India. The government of Pakistan has credible proof that India does not want to see Pakistan on the world map, then why Pakistan is waiting to give a proper and equal reply to India.

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  • Peace for All
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:48AM

    Very sad. And if terrorists killed 17 in Bara then it has no impact but if Indian army killed 1 or 2 then it gets a lot of coverage and has great impact. Why? Every killing in everywhere in this world is condemnable and it requires strong measures. Very Shameful acts..

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  • Najeebullah
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:48AM

    It is all our army’s mess, when ever the peace process escalates they create mess on the LOC just to demonstrate that India is our biggest enemy and we should not even think to reduce the army budget.

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  • Alex
    Jan 16, 2013 - 1:52AM

    @haris bin saeed:
    yes we did not know what happened…..nonstate actors…its not us..we do not know who is doing this. :) Who knows who shot whom …maybe its a conspiracy by Pakistan itself? :(

    PS: English lessons are provided free of cost and also can be learned by reading ET’s very good columnists.

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  • Pan Mat
    Jan 16, 2013 - 2:05AM

    @haris bin saeed:

    u will be given a very powerful reply and the life of our soldier will not be wasted in vain.

    Like the one you gave to TTP for killing 15 of your soldiers?

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  • shahid
    Jan 16, 2013 - 2:20AM

    Indians are again falling trap into hands of Talibans just like they did after the Mumbai incident.Talibans want a war between India and Pakistan which will in thier minds make it easier for them to bring Taliban rule in Pakistan. Indians should realise thier objectives and help Pakistan into crushing them or face a Taliban ruled sucidal Pakistan.

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  • Nitin Gandhi
    Jan 16, 2013 - 2:20AM

    @Hammad Mian:
    On the other hand Why don’t you stop supporting the Terrorism , Teach Lesson to your self first.

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  • Indian
    Jan 16, 2013 - 2:44AM

    As an Indian I offer condolences. The stupidest thing that Indians and Pakistanis do is to transfer the pain of individual events into general hatred of 180 million Pakistanis or 1200 million Indians. This is a SYSTEMIC problem. The solution is: Pakistan needs to ensure no militants groups cross the LoC, and then both India and Pakistan can gradually demilitarize. If we are going to hate each other over this, why right now? 1 month ago, when India-Pakistan relations were improving fast, were all these troops not there on the border? Were there not ceasefire violations on both sides? What is the huge change right now that should start fires of hatred? The LoC is the same as it was before.

    Both Indian and Pakistani nationalism/patriotism should be about strengthening and growing a secular, peaceful, multicultural state and society, with a welfare safety net and opportunities for entrepreneurs and creative people to realize their dreams. I know Pakistan is not going to become a secular state anytime soon, but at least we can agree on the other bits: peace and prosperity. At times like this, many Indians and Pakistanis believe earnestly wish that we could change geography. I understand why; India and Pakistan have two completely different national identities and values today. Pakistan is an Islamic state; India is a secular state. Pakistani nationalism/patriotism is religion-based; Indians reject that. No meeting ground. But we can at least be civilized neighbors.

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  • Ali
    Jan 16, 2013 - 2:50AM

    We have a Sikh Jawan in the photo too. Jinnah would have been proud.

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  • Gaurav
    Jan 16, 2013 - 3:04AM

    Hope this cycle ends soon , for the sake of soldiers and their families.

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  • Aaditya
    Jan 16, 2013 - 3:07AM

    I am Indian and this news saddens me as well. I’m sad to read the hyper-aggressive comments here. Calm down. This is not a school playground. Let’s be mature. STOP THE FIRING. CEASEFIRE MEANS CEASEFIRE. Let both armies be told this clearly!

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  • Alex
    Jan 16, 2013 - 3:12AM

    @Narinder Modi:
    Hilarious!!!

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  • JS
    Jan 16, 2013 - 3:35AM

    anyone else think this is all geting a bit silly now, please dont kill any more soldiers. PLEASE STOP IT NOW.

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  • Nitin Gandhi
    Jan 16, 2013 - 3:36AM

    @Ali:
    its Indian Army’s Pic

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  • Babloo
    Jan 16, 2013 - 3:36AM

    Tactically, India would like to see Pakistan ruled by religious fanatics, extremists and fundamentalists . They will work from inside and teach Pakistan a good lesson on using religion as a political ideology.

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  • Babloo
    Jan 16, 2013 - 3:39AM

    @Ali,
    The picture is of Indian soldiers. How do I know ? The fence is 100 Mt inside LoC on the Indian side , so Pakistani army cannot come close to it because that would be then crossing the LoC and Indian artillery will take care of it.

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  • J. Sandhu
    Jan 16, 2013 - 3:43AM

    @hamid gul please dont use tactics that Pakistanis use, go face to face, its honest and we are not like them.

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  • Khawar Butt
    Jan 16, 2013 - 3:45AM

    It’s time to withdraw our troops from tribal areas, make peace with insurgents so that together we can fight our real enemy.

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  • Arindom
    Jan 16, 2013 - 3:49AM

    Why are Pakistanis getting so excited about? Taliban keeps capturing beheading Pakistani soldiers and not a finger is raised???Recommend

  • Sameer
    Jan 16, 2013 - 4:02AM

    This is grotesque. The way border skirmishes have become a fodder for egotistical nationalists on both side. 65 years of independence and not a tad bit evolution amongst us. Beheading of Indian soldier was brutal and barbaric. But the way Indian media and public reacted was even more proposterous.They automatically assumed that orders came directly from Gen. Kayani’s office. In order to calm the chicken hawks in media, Indian army had to kill one of Pakistan’s. And now Dr Manmohan SIngh himself is saying “business as usual is not possible with Pakistan”. When is Indo-Pak relation going to go beyond these constant one-manship?

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  • NK
    Jan 16, 2013 - 4:14AM

    @ali-
    The file photo is that of Indian security forces patrolling the border and has been used by ET on a number of occasions in the past. this time the ET has not labelled it that clearly.

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  • Jim
    Jan 16, 2013 - 4:15AM

    @Ali Oh, the same Jinnah who thought Hindus and Muslims ought to have separate homelands?

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  • Jan 16, 2013 - 4:28AM

    @Omar:
    I dont know why are you wondering by seeing a muslim name.. Friend, India is the second largest muslim populated country in the world and Indian muslims are most moderate muslims in the world. Look at our foreign minister, he is muslim, our vice president and many more in politics.. Check with any Indian muslims if you have anyone as your friend.. Compare the life of muslims in India and Pakistan… Inda is different mate. Pakistan will propsper only when you guys stop fighting in the name of religion which quran never told about. How do you guys kill your own people guys.. its shame.. pray to god to give wisdon rather not being in the trap of terrorists or terrorist leaders who just look for their survival………….

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  • Misery Ghalib
    Jan 16, 2013 - 4:36AM

    @Ali: the photo is of indian soldiers

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  • gp65 .
    Jan 16, 2013 - 4:40AM

    @shahid: “Indians are again falling trap into hands of Talibans just like they did after the Mumbai incident.”

    Sorry. The onus to control terror emanating from its soil is on Pakistan. If Indians are killed especially beheaded brutally in this case or 26/11 then India has a right to react. It is upto Pakistan to wind down the terror camps, so that its soil is not used as a base for terrorism in other countries.

    @O2: “ever since Pak won the series, indian army has gone bonkers on LoC since jan 6!”

    Seriously? Linking this conflagration to the cricket match is the silliest thing I have heard. If India had won, it would have been accused of unfair tactics. If it lost, that too is somehow being held against it. Very strange.

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  • Abdullah
    Jan 16, 2013 - 4:41AM

    This is the begining of Pakistan’s road to be World Power. It was predicted and all of you will see. Just wait and watch

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  • Observer
    Jan 16, 2013 - 4:45AM

    It looks like the Pak Establishment is again up to its old tricks of diverting the attention of Pakistanis from mounting domestic terrorism, rising prices and fast deteriorating economy. The Pak army apparently is also trying to destabilize the civilian government by raising the India card again.

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  • Truth detector
    Jan 16, 2013 - 4:47AM

    As a reaction can we at least stop showing stupid Bollywood flicks in the theaters & band Indian TV channels. Or is it too much to ask?

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  • janaan
    Jan 16, 2013 - 4:52AM

    @Nitin Gandhi:
    do you ever think other than what is being feeded into your mouth. please talk sense.

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  • Jan 16, 2013 - 6:55AM

    @Hammad Mian:
    And we will give you one more Bangla Desh on your western border.

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  • Jan 16, 2013 - 6:57AM

    @Misery Ghalib:
    But who will bell the cat? You guys dare not for you know the next thing is another Bangladesh on your western border.

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  • Nadeem
    Jan 16, 2013 - 7:53AM

    @Hamid Gul:
    Ok lets assume we are what you say we are. One thing that the whole world knows we are not and you are is RAPISTS.Yesterday a school girl got raped in a school toilet in the rape capital called Delhi. The programmed and systematic annihilation of female foetuses is causing a gender imbalance and you still have the guts to sing ” India shining”. Bollywood has influenced you way too much.
    Stop acting like a developed nation becuase your are not and admit the fact that you are still a third world country regardless of how many billionaires your economy produces.

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  • Yoghurt lover
    Jan 16, 2013 - 7:54AM

    @Hammad Mian:

    “Pak Army must teach the idiots drastic lesson”

    1000% agree with you. Pak army must teach the idiots such as Hafiz Saeed and others a drastic lesson. Finally Pakistanis are coming to their senses.

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  • Javelin
    Jan 16, 2013 - 7:57AM

    @Abdullah:
    “Just wait and watch” How long do we have to wait?

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  • Fundar
    Jan 16, 2013 - 8:01AM

    It’s likely our on army do they can create distraction..l
    Army needs to defend us
    Not run fertilizer plant, banks, housing schemes, cereal companies and great militants!

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  • gp65 .
    Jan 16, 2013 - 8:20AM

    @Ali: “We have a Sikh Jawan in the photo too. Jinnah would have been proud.”

    Um no. This is the Indian army. It not just has a Sikh jawan but a Sikh COAS. Our Air Chief is a Christian.

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  • Hamid
    Jan 16, 2013 - 8:27AM

    India deploying 2000 howitzer to loc and pakistan has no reply in limited war.

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  • Ravi
    Jan 16, 2013 - 8:31AM

    @Truth detector:
    Do that. Who cares if you don’t watch Bollywood films?

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  • Ravi
    Jan 16, 2013 - 8:32AM

    Nobody cares.

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  • bm
    Jan 16, 2013 - 8:52AM

    @ Jim correct your history

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  • True indian.
    Jan 16, 2013 - 9:12AM

    Pakistanis are way better fighters that Indians, there is no doubt… they fire accurately on 2mm width targets and indian firing can even miss an elephant.

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  • Jan 16, 2013 - 9:22AM

    Indian Army was clear: At a time and place of our choosing.. Well this was the time and the place is mentioned in the article..

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  • Stinky Indian
    Jan 16, 2013 - 9:24AM

    @Narinder Modi:
    Why ? You forgot the fate of two of your soldiers…… so soooon.

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  • Analyzer
    Jan 16, 2013 - 9:25AM

    @Observer: Well said. On this side of the border, it also looks like the Indian Establishment is again up to its old tricks of diverting the attention of Indians from mounting domestic terrorism, rising prices and fast deteriorating economy. The Indian army apparently is also trying to destabilize the civilian government by raising the Pakistan card again.

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  • Analyzer
    Jan 16, 2013 - 9:29AM

    The rabid trolls can always be relied upon for their vapid jingoism and juvenile postulating. However, it’s good to see comments from some sensible Indians too.

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  • Nawaz Qadri
    Jan 16, 2013 - 9:45AM

    It is very bad when you behead a soldier. A soldier is always proud of his country. A soldier of any country should be treated respectfully even at war and with a norm. Because both side is fighting for their homeland. You can kill the soldier but do not misbehave with their dead body. Here Pakistani soldier has done wrong and instead Pakistan Army acknowledging their mistake they are misguiding the nation. So Indians have right to respond. I am Pakistani and not Indian by the way and no one has right to declare me Gaddar. I salute all those on both side who died in the line of their duty. Commenting here is just foolish thing. It is not right to behead any soldier and keep it with you. Whoever comments here without knowing both side stories are not doing good thing. I bet Pakistan can not afford war with India can engage Pakistan for longer period and Pakistan has a weak economy.

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  • O2
    Jan 16, 2013 - 9:46AM

    Indians used to cry in front of the Mughals, then the Britsh & now in front of Pakistanis lol Let them live in their dreamy propaganda media world, Pakistan will give them a reality check on LoC & see how they will cry.

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  • Mozart
    Jan 16, 2013 - 9:50AM

    Break all relations with India, increase relations with China and get stronger economically. Just forget that Indiots exist in this world for a decade or so.

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  • concerned citizen
    Jan 16, 2013 - 9:51AM

    what is wrong with both the countries?! everybody needs to just chill out!!

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  • Yoghurt lover
    Jan 16, 2013 - 9:52AM

    @Truth Detector who writes “As a reaction can we at least stop showing stupid Bollywood flicks in the theaters & band Indian TV channels. Or is it too much to ask?”

    If you are a sane person, you will boycott Bollywood out of your sanity.

    Bollywood is the worst horse manure India is mass producing. It’s gud if the entire world boycotts it, especially India.

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  • Avatar Janjua
    Jan 16, 2013 - 10:11AM

    to all pakistani army fans, when indian army strikes it divides nation. remember bangladesh and sikkim

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  • Clear Black Bag
    Jan 16, 2013 - 10:12AM

    @Hamid Gul:
    This man definitely seems Indian by his used words in his comment.He is never General (R) Hamid Gul.So Pakistanis never trust his these Indian-favored words…..

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  • Clear Black Bag
    Jan 16, 2013 - 10:14AM

    @Hamid Gul:
    This man definitely seems Indian by his used words in his comment.He is never General (R) Hamid Gul.So Pakistanis never trust his these Indian-favored words and ISPR,Pakistan army officials and intelligence agencies must take notice of it seriously…..

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  • Super Star
    Jan 16, 2013 - 10:14AM

    @Stinky Pakistani,

    We dont forget any of our soldiers. Even if one is killed its a big issue for us. But you seem to have no problem in the daily beheading and killing of your soldiers done by your TTP or taliban. Just yesterday 14 soldiers were killed by Taliban.

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  • Anand
    Jan 16, 2013 - 10:18AM

    Aman ki Nirasha ! :-((((((

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  • Yuri Kondratyuk
    Jan 16, 2013 - 11:33AM

    @Hammad Mian:

    Pak Army must teach the idiots drastic
    lesson

    Pak Army planning self-study?

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  • Opinion
    Jan 16, 2013 - 4:27PM

    Hahahahah Aman ki asha……..flown away. Hindu Banya can never be our friends..

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  • super star
    Jan 16, 2013 - 10:26PM

    @truth detector
    Have u stopped watching hollywood after USA killed 24 of your soldiers and continues to kill your. Citizens through drones? In that case only movies that you will watch is maula jutt or classic like billu da kharak

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