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100 more Hindu pilgrims cross Wagah Border
The pilgrims denied migration rumors and stated they were just propaganda.
LAHORE: More than 100 Hindu pilgrims, who did not leave for India the previous day, have now crossed the Wagah Border and are claiming they will return to Pakistan, Express News reported on Saturday.
Just yesterday Hindu pilgrims, after protesting against immigration authorities and denying rumours of migration, had crossed the border into India.
The pilgrims leaving today too denied migration rumours and stated they were just propaganda.
“We live for Pakistan, we die for Pakistan,” said one pilgrim, adding that these rumors were futher spoiling Pakistan’s image internationally.
They reiterated that they would return after completing the pilgrimage.
Earlier, immigration authorities had stopped pilgrims from crossing the border in the wake of a rumour that they were migrating to India due to fears for their life and property in Pakistan.
Immigration authorities had initially informed the pilgrims that the interior ministry’s decision would be given in the next 48 hours. However, after a four-hour long peaceful protest, the Hindu pilgrims were allowed to cross borders.
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By seeing their picture, nobody can say they were victims of persecution. Look very healthy and happy. I would be glad if common Indian Muslims were half as healthy as our Hindu denizens are.
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I would like Express Tribune to report similarly when Muslims of Pakistan will leave for Hajj..!
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@A Pakistani:
Just look at Bolywood heroes and heroines!
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@ A Pakistani
really you must be a good mind reader.yes they look very happy going to india. GUESS WHY???????
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@A Pakistani:
I would be glad if common Indian Muslims were half as healthy as our Hindu denizens are.
half?no way,they are not even 1/10th as healthy as Pakistani Hindus,and yet India is their homeland.
Grow up,ignorance costs more than arrogance!
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@A Pakistani:
“By seeing their picture, nobody can say they were victims of persecution”
Has it crossed your mind that it is because they stay away from militant activies and instead focus on education, hard work and staying healthy.
In UK where muslims and hindus are in minority, the hindus are looked upon as loyal and all employers want to hire them. I will repeat what I said in my previous comments:
“Hindus are four times less likely to be unemployed than Pakistani and Bangladeshi Muslims”
This is per UK parliament report (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/feb/20/race.immigrationpolicy).
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According to some of my friends who had personally met some of the people,Majority of these people won’t go back to Pakistan.According to some of the people he met,Situation of Sindh and Balochistan is so bad that in near future there is gonna be a mass exodus of Hindu population from these area.
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@look behind the picture:
Compare their picture with the pictures of Rohingyas coming out of Burma and you will know the difference.
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@A Pakistani, They are happy because they are going to India. Just observe the big smiles and a sign of relief on their faces after finally being allowed to leave Pakistan.
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Gentlemen, foreget all, but remember that they are our country-men, our brothern, and we should be proud of their good health and happiness.
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@A Pakistani:
They look happy as they have finally been able to flee the oppression.
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Dear Indians,
These people are Pakistanis. They are our people, not yours. We share a language, culture, land and, above all, blood with them. You only share a religion.
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@Sapan Kapoor:
Burma is a poor country and no one is particularly in too good a shape there like Bangladesh. This in itself in not a proof that they are being persecuted, they are just poor.
What you don’t see in the above picture are the countless Hindu girls that have been abducted by Muslims in Pakistan thus forcing their families to flee to save rest of children.
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@Sapan Kapoor:
“@A Pakistani, They are happy because they are going to India. Just observe the big smiles and a sign of relief on their faces after finally being allowed to leave Pakistan.”
The people leaving for pilgrimage also go with smiles. Aren’t they? Unless they confided with you of their real purpose and deliberate spoke lies with the correspondent.
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@entropy:
Is that why you persecute them and have a separate colour in the flag for them as untouchables?
Isn’t sharing a common religion a big thing in Pakistan? Hindus are not allowed to be president, PM etc in Pakistan as they don’t share religion with the rest of majority.
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Everyone has a right to go for better life and if they think India is a safe haven then let them go. Time will tell them whether it was a good choice or not. Some may get success other will be forgotten, that’s the story of life.
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@Sapan Kapoor:
brother if you come to Pakistan you will see that Hindus are flourishing here. In interior Sindh half of the businesses are owned by them. Kindly dont pass judgment before research. Media loves to sensationalize they are not a good resource.
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@A Pakistani:
dude, your ancestors were ex hindu and you got those genes in you. so show some respect to the natives of the land.
also indian muslims are more happy in india, thats why you never see the same line going towards pakistan. it is always one way and it will always be one way.
jinda bhag anyone?
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@Entropy
We share a language, culture, land and, above all, blood with them. You only share a religion.
HAHAHAHA!
Now I have seen it all!
Did you become aware of commonality of language,culture,land and above all blood v/s only share a religion after August 1947?
PS- Whatever happened to the Arab/Turkish ancestry?
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@A Pakistani:
“Compare their picture with the pictures of Rohingyas coming out of Burma and you will know the difference.”
Have you said it because they are muslims? I am a muslim in UK (of Pakistan descent) and I am ashamed to say that we muslims do not want to be inclusive. That is one of the reasons why the muslims have failed in the West. Every thing we do is based on medivel times and there is no concept of respecting others. Worst bit is that we get involved in crime. The facts I reported yesterday are worth repeating for you. In UK the statistics for muslims and hindus is 2.7% and 1.0% population(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DemographyoftheUnitedKingdom) whereas the prison population is 12.5% and 0.5% respectively (www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN04334.pdf )
The sad thing is that the muslim population keeps going up .(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8558590.stm)
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Let’s see if the Indian immigration laws also apply to these Pakistani Hindus as applied to Pakistani Muslim visitors. Needless to point out that if any Pakistani is found guilty of overstay or away from the station of his visa, he is charged under spying and terrorism clauses and then he never sees the freedom again. Will tell the Indian Government collaboration if they don’t return.
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@A Pakistani:
In India, Minorities are free to involve in every sphere of the society.. Nobody stops them to live their terms.. No forcible conversion to other religions..
Where as in Pakistan, the minorities are second grade citizens as per the law..
Just come out and see the facts as a human being..
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@entropy, I wish you had treated them well, not like second-class citizens just because they were non-Muslims in an Islamic country. I wish you had not converted a poor Hindu boy on a live TV show. I wish you had not abducted and converted Hindu girls forcibly. I wish you had not sought ransom from the Hindu businessmen. I wish your countrymen, the Pakistani Hindus, did not have to leave their country and seek asylum in India. So much for the plight of the Pakistani Hindus.
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100 More where there are 1.2 Billion.
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If a chance given, even the muslims of pakistan will happily leave pakistan and come india…
Well, in culture of 5,000yrs, we embraced muslims, parsis, christains, and everyone who was willing to saty… Then these paki hindus toh are coming for protection!! Protecting them is our dharma… So welcome back chaps!!! U are 65yrs late, but better late then never
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This is an Indian intenet myth. Pakistani Punjabis have not only retained their pre-Islamic caste identities, they have also retained their caste prides. The old social hierarchies are still there with the various clans of Jatts along with the Bhatti Rajputs at the top.
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I am thinking of plight of Indian from Uganda. Country is not same economically or culturally. Usually people migrating are wealthy and educated with lots of resources.Daily wage earner is usually not the first one on the roll. Pakistan will pay for this plight economically, culturally and loss of credibility. Moreover it is deteriorating law and order situation that is why people and investment, jobs and money to local grocery store, restaurant is flowing out. In Pakistan a good religion is interpreted by bad narrow minded people.
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Sapan Kapoor
Lawlessness has increased in the country in the last 4 years. Everyone is less safe than they used to. It isn’t all just about religious persecution. No one mentions that of the 40 000 Pakistanis murdered by Al Qaeda the vast majority belonged to the majority Sunni Braelvi sect.
That was a regrettable incident, but you don’t appreciate how out of control our sensationalist media is.
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Pakistani Hindus are looking better then Endian Hindus in above picture..
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@Vishnu Dutta:
“also indian muslims are more happy in india, thats why you never see the same line going towards pakistan. it is always one way and it will always be one way.”
Ever you heard the names SIMI, Indian Mujahadeen, and a dozen more in IOK. Know why Zabiuddin Ansari resorted to SIMI. Doesn’t look everything hunky dory to me.
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Every one be happy,Soon this is going to become “PAK SARZAMEEN”.
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just see what muslims did in mumbai today.
destruction seems to be their favorite game.
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@suraj:
Yes the incidents you are right Sursj. But hey renember Gujrat?
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Great. Now they cannot even freely talk about their immigration. Great job Rehman Malik.Recommend
if these hindus dont want to live in pakistan.then migrate to a first world country.a third world country like india with poor law and order is not a wise decision.
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@Umer: “Isn’t sharing a common religion a big thing in Pakistan? Hindus are not allowed to be president, PM etc in Pakistan as they don’t share religion with the rest of majority.”
I never saw a muslim Prime Minister in india nor even a froeign Minister or interior Minister. except Muslim President , and i know how powerful an indian president is.
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The problem is serious.Makes one sad.What is the government doing to protect it’s citizens
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@Ballu: “If a chance given, even the muslims of pakistan will happily leave pakistan and come india…”
Are u day dreaming or what ???????? u should b a mental case ……
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@A Pakistani:
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“Pakistan is sinking ship please evacuate urging to both hindu and muslim community there … ” come to india land of opportunities :) .
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@Imran:
There is no legal restriction on it like there is in Pakistan. When there is a suitable Muslim candidate he will be elected. There is already a Sikh PM for many years now so that position not restricted to Hindus only unlike Pakistan where it is only reserved for Muslims and rest are treated as non-citizens and untouchables. No wonder Hindus are running away.
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Run for your Life my friends and brothers who are so unfortunate to be born in a country were non-muslims are considered to be a burden and are being deliberately denied rights.
Pakistani Muslims should think and start to act maturely now otherwise Pakistan Ka allah hafiz
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@Imran:
Have you not noticed long visa queues outside foreign embassies?
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This is due to the most incompetent government led by CM Qaim Ali Shah!. I myself from larkana , I know the level of kidnappings happending of Hindu People. Islam never allow this. Qaim Ali Shah is punishment on Sindhi Nation!!!Recommend
@Imran: APJ.Abdul Kalam(former president of India)was also former head of Indian Space Research Organisation(ISRO),Defence Research and Developement Organisation(DRDO),Project Director of Agni Series missiles and he was played very important role in 1998 Pokran nuclear test.Mr.Asim Premji($18 billion),Yusuf Hammid($1.5 billion)are the Indian muslim billionares from forbes billionares list.
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@A Pakistani:
Then u would be estatic!
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@Imran:
“i know how powerful an indian president is.”
Then, why is the 2nd most powerful person in the congress, the ruling party, the President today?
If this post is so insignificant why did the all powerful man from Congress had to be the President? Congress wants him because President has a lot of powers. The presence of incorruptible Kalam made sure Sonia Gandhi couldn’t sneak into the PM’s office.
Even Pakistan follows the same of model of Democracy as India, so would you say Zardari is powerless? The people wanting him to bring him down certainly don’t think so.
You say the things you do, because you can’t accept the bitter reality that anyone can rise to the corridors of power in India, even the minorities. Before 2004, Pakistanis were saying any minority person cannot become a PM, after Manmohan Singh became PM, they had to shut up. After his reelection, the modified the line to “No Muslim will become a PM”. Never mind the fact that they are already Presidents, Chief Justices, etc.
FYI, only a Muslim can be the PM or President of Pakistan as per Constitution. So, clearly you are the expert here.
P.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AzizMushabberAhmadi
An Ahmadi Muslim can also become the Chief Justice in India. Can an Ahmadi even call himself a Muslim in Pakistan, forget becoming the Chief Justice?
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@entropy:
No they dont share your culture of oppression n forced conversion with u!
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@entropy:
Same as with Kashmiris! Remember, What goes around, comes around.
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@A Pakistani:
Is that why unhealthy Pakistanis come for medical treatments to India?
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@Aimal:
Bollywood heroes and heroines are all plastic and paint. They are plain ugly.
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@Imran:
In case you missed it: Mahommedali Currim Chagla and Sikander Bakht
Minister of State, External Affairs
Abubakar Abdul Rahim
3 September 1982 31 October 1984
Abubakar Abdul Rahim
4 November 1984 31 December 1984
Khurseed Alam Khan
31 December 1984 25 September 1985
Salman Khursheed
19 January 1993 16 May 199
Saleem Iqbal Shervani
9 May 1997 19 March 199
Omar Abdullah
23 July 2001 23 December 2002
E. Ahamed
January 2011 current
Next time do your homework or you will loose your credibility.Recommend
Pakistan has self appointed it to be the bastion of Islam. Yet is chooses which Muslims to befriend and which to kill. Every Pakistani has the word “Gujarat” on their lips. Yes it happened and was a sad incident. NO INDIAN HAS EVER DENIED IT. The main question is how many Indian Muslims migrated to Pakistan thereafter.Recommend
ET a new home for Indian call center employees and now impostor RSA guys have got a good platform to bash Pakistan all the time and thanks to our absurd media who are masters exploiters of the sentiments of the public of Pakistan. I think Pakistani media must be scrutinized as it seems the so called Freedom of Speech has adversely effected their senses and as a Result Reporting becomes pathetic as well.Recommend
@A Pakistani:
This is what “Two Nation Theory” is.
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@It Is (still) Economy Stupid: Please also provide me the list of ,1- literacy Rate of the indian muslims 2- Poverty ratio as compared to hindus , 3- their quota in indian police or army or other government services…… 4-who demolished babri masjid and dargah hazrat bal 5- who killed thousands of muslims in gujrat 6-who killed hundreds of muslims recently in Asssm ……..and the list goes on
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@Awans:
being a call center employee is lot better than being a suicide bomber.
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@It Is (still) Economy Stupid: I am not talking about provincial ministers….
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Do not go on pictures. It is journalist art of ET to disguise the public and to match the picture with story. Read startling revaltions in Hinudtan Times of today. Mr Kumar who was head of first Hindu delegation crossing the borders has revealed many horroible stories.
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@Usman: Oh really …..I can see ,you left them no less than dumb.Look at the dresses of girl
.Even in so called Bihar girls dont wear full hand kurta .And dupatta is long back story.
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Well Look at the above people who are on Pilgrimage on India healthy and fine and will be back in a month in Pakistan but kindly look at this report that what these pilgrims have to witness when they will arrive in Amazing India.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-19219038
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no more muhajirs from india,burma and afghanistann please in the name of islam.
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@Imran:
when caught, instead of apologising, you are back to the gujarat, kashmir story.
this nature of not admitting to mistakes seem not only nature of pakistani rulers but of common masses as well.
AND YES, mufti muhammad saeed was internal affairs minister during the onset of kashmir insurgency, in 1989. and the way he chickened out when his daughter was kidnapped in kashmir, plunged india deep into the crisis.
regarding quota for muslims, almost every caste, except SHEIKH, SAYYID, PATHAN and MALIK is included in the OBC category. that is they can compete for 27 % seats on quota in every job, college, besides having numerous minority run colleges, like AMU, JAMIYA ISLAMIYA etc.
and the upper caste brethrens compete with brahmins, kshatriyas and vaishyas.
also, in UP where i live, recently 20% quota for muslims has recently been declared, for sub-inspectors post. no brouhaha, no complains. most of muhajirs make make more noise with regard to quotas in sindh.
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I think we should welcome these Hindus to India and send an equal number of Muslims to Pakistan.
Muslims are trouble and failure wherever they go.
Today in Mumbai, Muslims have caused large scale destruction.
Why do we foolish Hindus tolerate muslims? We should give them the same treatment given to Rohingyas in Myanmar.
My Indian muslim brothers, sorry if I offended you. But instead of criticizing my comments, you need to do introspection to find out why you people are hated by the entire world.
In fact you even hate each other and kill each other more than anyone else has killed you.
Why is this?
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@Ballu: “If a chance given, even the muslims of pakistan will happily leave pakistan and come india…”
You are absolutely right.
In foreign countries, Pakistanis claim to be Indians/Hindus to get some respect. If they say they are Pakistani muslim, they won’t get diddly squat even in Arab countries.
By the way Shoaib Malik seems to be spending more time in India than Sania spending time in Pakistan.
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@entropy:” These people are Pakistanis. They are our people, not yours. We share a language, culture, land and, above all, blood with them.” Pray enlighten me how you share blood with them , are you related to any of them (u a arab and they are hindus) or did you donate blood to a kafir there is a third option which i will not mention.Even when one is being jingoistic it is always good remember the truth.
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such news shouldnt even make to papers
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They should live in India. Whocares. Mean while in India, thousands of ppl live their mother land for better future prospects. Funny
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@Imran:
that muslim president was deeply involved in Indian defence, space and aeronautics and is regarded as one of the senior most scientists receiving 1000 likes per day since he opened his official fb page…whose books are one of the bestsellers in india
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@A Pakistani:
have YOU ever noticed BLA, Sindhudesh Liberation army n a number of other MUSLIM groups??
ever heard abt azim premji??…researched on bollywood??…ever??
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If Indians are accepting these Pakistani Hindues illegal stay In India then whats wrong on accepting bangladeshi immigrants in India!!?? is this becouse of religion bangladeshis are not welcomed and Pakistani Hindues are welcomed !!??
But wait a minute I heard india is a secular country :)
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@Imran.
I never saw a muslim Prime Minister in india nor even a froeign Minister or interior Minister. except Muslim President , and i know how powerful an indian president is.
Foreign Ministers Cabinet Minister.(Non Muslims)
1]Sardar Swaran Singh. SIKH—-2 times.
2]M.C.Chagla.
3]Sikandar Bakht Muslim…..Minister B.J.P..Party….Govt…[Well that is height of secularism]
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Foreign Minister non Cabinet Ministers.
1]Abubakar Abdul Rahim—-2 ..times.
2]Khurshid Alam Khan. A very popular and sincere minister.
3]Eduardo Falerio—–Christian.
4]Salman Khurshid.
5]Saleem Iqbal Shervani
6]Omar Abdulla…[that to a KASHMIRI]
7]E Ahmed. present.
Deputy Foreign Minister.
1]Dr Syed Mahmud.
In India we call Interior Minister as Home Minister.
Cabinet Ministers.
1]Giani Zail Singh—-Sikh.
2]Mufti Mohammad Sayeed—–[From Kashmir]
IHome Ministers without Cabinet rank I di not have any list.But there were many Muslims.
In India the most coveted and inportant post is of Defence Minister.
1]Baldev Singh—SIKH.
2]George Fernandes…Christian.Again in B.J.P. Ministry.
3]A.K. Antony….. Christian.
Hope you change your mindset.In India unfortunately for you we see merit instead of Religion
Mind you George Fernandes and present day A.K Antony as Defence Minister are still most popular defence ministers.So much so that George Fernandes could win election from Bihar where there was not a single christian vote!!!!!!!!!!!.
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@Imran.
I never saw a muslim Prime Minister in india nor even a froeign Minister or interior Minister. except Muslim President , and i know how powerful an indian president is.
Foreign Ministers Cabinet Minister.(Non Muslims) 1]Sardar Swaran Singh. SIKH—-2 times. 2]M.C.Chagla. 3]Sikandar Bakht Muslim…..Minister B.J.P..Party….Govt…[Well that is height of secularism] . Foreign Minister non Cabinet Ministers. 1]Abubakar Abdul Rahim—-2 ..times. 2]Khurshid Alam Khan. A very popular and sincere minister. 3]Eduardo Falerio—–Christian. 4]Salman Khurshid. 5]Saleem Iqbal Shervani 6]Omar Abdulla…[that to a KASHMIRI] 7]E Ahmed. present.
Deputy Foreign Minister. 1]Dr Syed Mahmud.
In India we call Interior Minister as Home Minister. Cabinet Ministers. 1]Giani Zail Singh—-Sikh. 2]Mufti Mohammad Sayeed—–[From Kashmir]
IHome Ministers without Cabinet rank I di not have any list.But there were many Muslims.
In India the most coveted and inportant post is of Defence Minister. 1]Baldev Singh—SIKH. 2]George Fernandes…Christian.Again in B.J.P. Ministry. 3]A.K. Antony….. Christian.
Hope you change your mindset.In India unfortunately for you we see merit instead of Religion Mind you George Fernandes and present day A.K Antony as Defence Minister are still most popular defence ministers.So much so that George Fernandes could win election from Bihar where there was not a single christian vote!!!!!!!!!!!.
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@Naeem Siddiqui who writes “If Indians are accepting these Pakistani Hindues illegal stay In India then whats wrong on accepting bangladeshi immigrants in India!!?? is this becouse of religion bangladeshis are not welcomed and Pakistani Hindues are welcomed !!??”
Why do you think Muslims are particularly and mandatorily screened at US airports than the rest?
Non-Muslims of the world don’t like Muslims. Including your Chinese brothers.Recommend
” … I never saw a muslim Prime Minister in india nor even a froeign Minister or interior Minister. except Muslim President , and i know how powerful an indian president is … “
You forget the Election Commissioner of India – who is a UP Muslim. In the Indian Political System the office of the EC is “mai-baap”. .
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@Mr. S who writes “They should live in India. Whocares. Mean while in India, thousands of ppl live their mother land for better future prospects. Funny”
It’s not funny, unless your reasoning capacity has dwindled a great deal due to accumulated beef fat.
Leaving for a better opportunity is not the same as leaving for saving one’s life.
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@ A Pakistani
Compare their picture with the pictures of Rohingyas coming out of Burma and you will know the difference.
My Dear Sir first tell me which pictures? The pictures jehadis used in pakistan calling for jehad which turned out to be all type of pics from various incidents like tsunami deaths to a chinese mother fainting to earthquake deaths?
Coming to topic as my name suggests LOOK BEHIND THE PICTURE..These are some of those LUCKY minority families who don’t have to worry about their minor barely in their teens daughters getting kidnapped, raped and forcibly converted while the court in their country FINDING NOTHING WRONG IN IT forgetting JUDICIAL COMMON SENSE followed elsewhere in the world. So now can you tell the DIFFERENCE between your country and other similar DEMOCRATIC countries in the world?
Now again as I said “can understand why they are so giddy with happiness”
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@A Pakistani:
“By seeing their picture, nobody can say they were victims of persecution”
People released from a jail look very happy. To these people Pakistan is a jail and India is freedom.
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Let’s make a deal. 100 Indian muslims transferred to Pakistan for these 100 pakistani hindus. I bet no Indian muslim would want to go to Pakistan.Recommend
@Imran:
Before you ask for further information you have to accept to the readers that you were dead wrong and apologize for spreading misinformation. India had Muslim Home ministers, External Affairs Ministers, Minister of State for External Affairs Ministers, Presidents and Vice presidents. Now, It’s your turn to name a Hindu/Ahmadi/Christian Interior Minister, External Affairs Minister, President and Vice President of Pakistan. If I am right, Pakistani constitution prevents minority from holding such posts. BTW: Minister of State for external affairs is Junior Minister to External Affairs like Vice President it is a federal post and not provincial as you indicated. Please update your knowledge. India had two external affairs Minister in last 65 years.
List of countries by literacy rate, as included in the United Nations Development Programme(UNDP) Report 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listofcountriesbyliteracy_rate
Rank Country Literacy rate
137 137 India 75.6%
161 161 Pakistan 58.2%
163 163 Bangladesh 55.9%
82 82 Sri Lanka 94.2%
120 120 Saudi Arabia 86.1%
Disclosure: I am not paid by ISI, RAW, CIA, MI-6 or MOSSAD etc
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@Naeem Siddiqui:
Hi..hindus are welcome from any part of the world as they will live peacefully, and dissolve into the society like sugar into milk.Time and again the muslims have tried to uproot the locals..(like the ethnic bodos) who were the original land owners.They do not mingle and blend into the society, they tend to become land grabbers,looters, and bullies.This aggravates the ethnic groups who retaliate.When such retaliation happens, the muslims cry foul and act as though an injustice is done to their religion.It is not right,.So, its not the religion, its the mindset of the people belonging to the religion.The mindset of people belonging to hinduism, is peace and harmony,acceptance and tolerance.
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@Pollack:
“People released from a jail look very happy. To these people Pakistan is a jail and India is freedom.”
Now ET has updated the picture with their video interview. Listen to it before exposing your brainwashed typical Indian mentality. Did they say anything like that.
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@It Is (still) Economy Stupid:
BTW, the first ones to migrate, may be not physically but by moving their assets abroad are the Pakistani elites. Most of the textile industry has been moved to Bangladesh and even leaders like NS have moved their assets overseas. Leader of MQM is still in exile. At one time leaders of all three major political parties were in exile. Baluch leaders are in exile today. Musharraf is now in exile. Only ones moving in Pakistan are the terrorists. Can anyone think of any other country in the world that has a similar situation.
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@Imran:
The literacy rate of Muslims in India is far higher than the literacy rates of Muslims in Pakistan.
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@Naeem Siddiqui:
and u forget 2 nation theory .why they want to come in india when they get their land 1n 1947 .and secularism apply only for indian not for illigal immigrants
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@Naeem Siddiqui: Since you are clearly bigoted as are most of your ilk, let me state the difference between Pakistani Hindus and Bangladeshi Muslims.
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Firstly let me reiterate that India is a secular country which means that we do not consider any one’s religion for anything. We treat it as a personal matter between that person and God. In fact seeing some mails from Indians on ET, this is the first time I am knowing the religion of some important people.
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Coming back to your question which I have seen repeated on ET, please understand that Pakistani Hindus seeking refuge to escape from persecution (religious in this case) whereas Bangladeshi Muslims are migrating to India for economic benefit. There is a clear distinction to be made here.
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India has a consistent policy of accepting victims of persecution and will continue to do so. Even when India was in no position to stand up to China in 1959, despite great risk we gave asylum to Tibetan refugees. We have consistently stuck by this position.
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@look behind the picture:
“Coming to topic as my name suggests LOOK BEHIND THE PICTURE..These are some of those LUCKY minority families who don’t have to worry about their minor barely in their teens daughters getting kidnapped, raped and forcibly converted while the court in their country FINDING NOTHING WRONG IN IT forgetting JUDICIAL COMMON SENSE followed elsewhere in the world.”
You talk about the sufferings of minorities in Pakistan while you don’t ‘look behind the picture’ of your own country where minorities are massacred in mass genocides in which thousands upon thousands of innocents people are killed, hundreds upon hundreds of girls and women are gang raped, and millions of households and property are set on fire. Only in Punjab province, more than 11,000 Sikhs were killed in extrajudicial killings by the security forces and another 6,000 abducted by police were cremated after torturing them to death. You talk about the justice in Pakistan. Read the shameful details in this 275 page report by Human Rights Watch, “Protecting the Killers: A Policy of Impunity in Punjab, India, 18 October 2007″. I am deliberately not talking about Muslims. If you can do this to your religious brethren, then one can easily imagine how you treat the other minorities.
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@Naeem Siddiqui:
“If Indians are accepting these Pakistani Hindues illegal stay In India then whats wrong on accepting bangladeshi immigrants in India!!?? is this becouse of religion bangladeshis are not welcomed and Pakistani Hindues are welcomed !!??
But wait a minute I heard india is a secular country :)”
The best comment ever.
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@Indian Catholic:
“India has a consistent policy of accepting victims of persecution and will continue to do so. …… We have consistently stuck by this position.”
Hello Mr. Indian Catholic. The most persecuted community in the world according to UNO, the Rohingyas of Burma, are waiting for any such offer from Indian government. Or this facility is only for Hindus.
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@A Pakistani:
*”@Naeem Siddiqui:
“If Indians are accepting these Pakistani Hindues illegal stay In India then whats wrong on accepting bangladeshi immigrants in India!!?? is this becouse of religion bangladeshis are not welcomed and Pakistani Hindues are welcomed !!??
But wait a minute I heard india is a secular country :)”
The best comment ever.”*
You probably wrote that comment before you could read the response of Indian Catholic to Naeem Siddiqui. Now, go back and read it. If you can’t understand it, come back and we will to explain it to you -slowly!
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this is really pathetic. you guys even don’t want to let them leave unless they take pledge to return!
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@A Pakistani: Where do you get your facts from? I hope you realize that they are not the only ones being persecuted.
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The Rohingyas people are one of the most persecuted and defenceless communities in the world. According to the United Nations, the population estimate is over 800,000; however support for these people is non-existent. They have faced genocide and ethnic cleansing, with a rise in gender-based violence and torture over the past decade.
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We must all do something about it. Despite calling yourselves saviors of the Muslim Ummah, the western world is the one funding relief and rescue operations in Burma. What have you done?
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@A Pakistani:
yes such a facility is only for hindus.
what happened to your UMMah. of 56 countries.
and even christians have their countries, for hindus their is only one country, so they will get asylum here. PERIOD.
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@A Pakistani:
You are a typical Pakistan who does not want to acknowledge the genocide of around 3 MILLION fellow citizens and rape of almost 300,000 females in East Pakistan in 1971 by his/her own Punjabi-Muslim Pakistani army and their razakars slaves like Al-Shams and Al-Badr.
Will you ever learn to live in peace within your country. Balochistan, KP and GB constitute more than 60% area of Pakistan which is in perpetual trouble because of Jehadi mentality of your hawk friends. I did not include Karachi to shame Pakistanis further.
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@It Is (still) Economy Stupid:
…..and the list includes reps of the following religions: Hinduism, Islam, Sikhism, Christianity and Buddhism, besides at least one atheist. At least 10 native languages are represented. Fine ONE other country in the entire wide world where such a hugely diverse set of people have become the second most powerful person in Governmen in the past 65 years.
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You don’t see fear on their faces!! Anyone who is RUNNING FOR THEIR LIVES has some sort of gesture to it. You don’t see it them, do you? And all you Indies are frowning about how good India is with minorities. Study! Seriously, read some books with HISTORY written on them. Verily, you will cry for your own country rather than commenting on ET!Recommend
@A Pakistani:
Do you know that there are still more than 500,000 stranded Pakistanis languishing in Refugee camps in Bangladesh since 1972?
Tell us what have you been doing to repatriate your fellow Sunni-Muslim citizens back to their own beloved country Pakistan, the land of pure?
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Slap on Pakistani electronic media.
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ET going overboard with sensationalizing this false migration news. Perhaps u should report with the same enthusiasm when the muslims in india leave for their pilgrimage. Highly unethical and irresponsible reporting.
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C’mon guys, this is just sensational reporting by ET. Don’t read too much into it. And please stop feeding the trolls.
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@G. Din:
“You probably wrote that comment before you could read the response of Indian Catholic to Naeem Siddiqui. Now, go back and read it. If you can’t understand it, come back and we will to explain it to you -slowly!”
You also probably wrote this comment without reading my answer to his comment. Ironically it is just above your comment. By the time you posted your comment, not only I read @Indian Catholic’s comment but also posted my response just before you could post your comment. Now go back and read it but slowly and carefully. I am sure it is simple enough to be understood even by a kid.
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@Imran:
Literacy rate of Muslims is bad compared to Hindus and others everywhere even here in UK. Muslims just don’t give the same priority to education as others do. Pakistan is a Muslim majority country and yet it’s so backwards when it comes to education. Who are you going to blame for that? RAW, MOSSAD? Even extremely rich countries like Saudi Arabia don’t have any world class universities.
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@Mahakaalchakra:
“You are a typical Pakistan who does not want to acknowledge the genocide of around 3 MILLION fellow citizens and rape of almost 300,000 females in East Pakistan in 1971″
You should have added couple of more zeros at the end of the figures to make them more impressive. Only an intellectually dishonest low life can distort facts to cover up their own humongous atrocities unleashed upon their minorities.
“Will you ever learn to live in peace within your country.”
Of course, we can, but the problem is we have a very malevolent and hegemonic neighbor. All the four neighbors of this country, China, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, and Bangladesh are the victims her hubris and hegemony.
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@A Pakistani: TOI is reporting your Interior Minister in exchange for permission to exit forced them to say that they are going for pilgrimage. Shame Shame
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@Imran: “I never saw a muslim Prime Minister in india nor even a froeign Minister or interior Minister. except Muslim President , and i know how powerful an indian president is.”
Muslims are not the only religious miorities in India. India – as of today has a non-Hindu (Sikh) Prime Minister an non-Hindu (atheist) finance minister who earlier was home minister – similar to interior minister for you, non-Hindu (Christian) defense minister, non-Hindu (Parsi) CJ, non-Hindu (Muslim) CEC, non-Hindu (Sikh) COAS and non-Hindu (Muslim) Vice President.
If you only restrict yourself to Muslims even then a Muslim has been Chief minister of Maharashtra (Antulay) which is the richest state Head of Indian Navy (Latif), CJ of supreme court in addition ofcourse to several Muslim MLAs being elected from non-reserved seats. India has had a Muslim cricket captain not once but twice (Pataudi and Azharuddin). A Hindu majority India happily watches movie where Muslims are lead actors (Shah Rukh, Salman, Amir) and listens to songs composed by Muslim music directors (A R Rehman, Sajid-Wajid, Salim-Suleiman). has given Bharat Ratna (ythe highest civilian award in India) to a Muslim (Ustad Bismillah Khan). A Muslim also was able to become a billionaire in India because there was no religious discrimnation by government against him (Azim Premji)
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The Hindus are exuding Joy and Delight
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upon entering India because they are beyond the reach of the Blasphemy Law of Pakistan.
Just wondering why that didnt strike to the Pakistani posters here.
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Pakistani State & Society is so egalitarian
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It does not discriminate between Ahamadiyas and Hindus.
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To all the Pakistani sympathizers of Rohingyas
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First please treat the Ahamdiyas humanley!
Charity as they say begins at home.
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To any Pakistani Hindus that may be Reading this
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We welcome you in India. There may not be luxury awaiting you
but can assure that Freedom, Equality,Law, Opportunity and Education is yours.
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@ Immotional Indians :)
Migration of few opportunist Hindus out of 4m loyal and patriot Hindu community from Pakistan is not because of persecution but for economic befits the only difference between Pakistani Hindus and Bangladeshis is that These opportunist Hindus found a very nice excuse that attracts 80% Hindu populist in India.
The fact is that law and order situation in Pakistan is not good and every Pakistani is bearing the burns and being Part of this society Hindus and others minorities have their proportional share. Once the situation will settle down and stabilize they will have their proportional benefits as well.
The other facts is that India’s economic growth is attracting illegal economic migration from all around its neighbourhood (Bangladesh, Srilanka, Nepal, Bhutan and Pakistan) but lucky opportunist Pakistani Hindus have an attractive excuse which sooths new found egos of nouveau riche Indians :)
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@G. Din
Indians has a habit of being personal when you question their cultural dilemma, Mr. ‘Indian Catholic’ answer is nothing more than just yet another show of weakness India as society is suffering. A time being economic growth can hide it but cannot eliminate it.
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For those making tall claims of Hindu-Muslim harmony in India:
http://dawn.com/2012/08/11/two-die-in-clashes-between-police-muslims-in-mumbai/
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@Entropy
This is an Indian intenet myth. Pakistani Punjabis have not only retained their pre-Islamic caste identities,
In that case, all your ‘heroes’ viz. Ghaznavi, Ghauri, Abdali and Babur must either be Punjabis or an ‘Indian internet myth’.
The question is- Which?
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@Naeem Siddiqui
If Indians are accepting these Pakistani Hindues illegal stay In India then whats wrong on accepting bangladeshi immigrants in India!!??
For your kind information more than 20 million Bangladeshis and even 11 thousand Pakistanis are illegally staying in India. Surely you don’t want another 100 or so be turned out?
http://www.arabnews.com/node/227129
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Are we belong to a failed nation where its minorities are hounded, kidnapped, raped, converted, killed, marginalised, neglected eligible to criticize any civilised nation leave alone India.Recommend
Assalam o Alaikum. It’s highly perturbing to see Pakistani’s responding to a news defaming their country like this. Come on, whatever the case is, it is OUR country, n we have to bring up an image, Fighting, denying each other won’t help other than making others sit back and laugh at us. Now please don’t come up saying that you are being “realistic” or “truthful”. Get united people. And for india, we just fantasize how tolerable they are when it comes to religion. Mention not how the Muslims are tortured in Assam and many other places. Wake up, and think twice before you give a comment in any newspaper. Remember that its read internationally. You are making yourself nothing but a laughing stock. I hope i make my point clear. Jazak Allah u Kher.
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@entropy: These are Indians who are now coming back to us.
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@Naeem Siddiqui
“If Indians are accepting these Pakistani Hindues illegal stay In India then whats wrong on accepting bangladeshi immigrants in India!!??
There is a big difference. The Hindus were victims of the Partition. They never asked for the formation of Pakistan. The Muslims on the other hand forced the Partition as they did not want to live with the Hindus- ever heard of the “two nation theory”?
So, India is morally obligated to give asylum to Hindus and Sikhs. There is no such moral obligation with respect to Muslims (or others who supported partition) of Pakistan/Bangladesh.
Actually, Pakistan has a moral obligation to allow in any Indian Muslims, who feel oppressed, wanting to immigrate to Pakistan Pakistan instead closed to the door on them.
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The truth is that even ordinary Pakistanis are living in fear now with violence rampant.
The Pakistanis muslims also die due to everyday violence.
Its not surprising that Hindus are leaving.
Pakistani people are also suffering.
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These are just pilgrims and are coming back Pakistan as they have no stakes in India, time will tell. This is just media sensation they took from one or two incidents.
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