The Condemned: A documentary on Ahmadi persecution

Published: August 9, 2012

‘The condemned’ is an endeavor to capture the persecution faced by the minority Ahmadiyya community in Pakistan – from their eyes.

The short documentary is a collection of testimonies in which those Ahmadis who have faced persecution narrate the target killings of loved ones, discrimination at the hands of fellow students and what it is like to live in jail as a blasphemy convict.

A town called Rabwah

Rabwah, is a town of District Jhang with the highest population of Ahmadis in Pakistan. The town is also home to some who have been convicted of blasphemy and under the anti-Ahmadi Ordinance of 1984, making them prisoners in this town.

A major chunk of the report was filmed in Rabwah and identities of some community members have been hidden for the sake of their security. The young man who shares the story of the horrors his family faced after his brother was accused of blasphemy has now left Pakistan. Therefore, we took the risk of showing his face on-camera. The town still provides a sense of security for the rest, so the condemned could speak with hidden faces.

Terror and truth

“Is she sure she will be able to run the interviews? What about the censorship, what about the backlash?”

These were the questions asked when this scribe approached the Ahmadi community members for the video report on their plight. Such concerns arose as a consequence of their experience with the mainstream Urdu press, who finally dared to address the Ahmadi debate after the May 28, 2010 bombings at two Ahmadi places of worship in Lahore. Unfortunately, the Urdu press continued its precedent of not covering the faith-based target killings of Ahmadis, not raising the question of discrimination faced by this community, and continuing to cover events by different religious organizations that are openly anti-Ahmadi.

However, the regular coverage of Ahmadi persecution and threat to the lives of community members by leading English publications eventually opened space to allow video documentation of the persecution of this minority group.

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Reader Comments (210)

  • ThisMeansWar
    Aug 12, 2012 - 12:04AM

    @Hina:
    PONKA! Never under the banner of Islam! Never under the Flag of Pakistan!Recommend

  • Naeem Rana
    Aug 12, 2012 - 12:21AM

    Rabia Mehmood – Not only a great Job but also a brave job for producing documentary. We will pray for your safety and longlife from extremist wing of Pakistan, as they are tollerent at all. Few example you may find in comments given by some of our friends with the start that they are not in favour of slutter someone but bla bla bla. My only question is what Islam teaches us ?? are we really practicing that ?????

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  • Naeem Rana
    Aug 12, 2012 - 12:49AM

    @Junaid:
    Who are you or any state to decide someone’s faith and religion. My friend can you tell me if God has given the right to you do decide some mone faith and propogate that. I do not think that ou even have a basic knowledge of Islam, Islam is a greatest religion but you know Mulims are called terrorists due to people like you and have similar thoughts. You might not know that million of Muslims are living in non-muslim countries and enjoying full rights, where as Islam claim the same but people like to hijacked Islam and presenting it as a worse religion on earth. Be happy and re-think on your knowledge.

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  • shamamah
    Aug 12, 2012 - 12:57AM

    Asslam-o-alaikum,
    Great job Rabia,May Allah always be with you and reward you for your courage(Ameen).
    LAA IKRAHA FI-DEENthis is what Islam teaches.how shameful it is when a so called Muslim is stopping Ahmadies from calling them selves Muslim(Adnan orders like God).
    AHMADIYYAT ZINDABAAD
    Akshy and sardar,don’t you even think that pakistani ahmadies will thank you for your comments against pakistan,though we are facing problems in our home but we will never allow the outsiders to attack on our land.and by the way, indian ahmadies are also facing such problems in a minor scale.
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  • Naeem Rana
    Aug 12, 2012 - 1:38AM

    @Haroon Baloch:
    Honestly ask the same question from your heart, I am sure you will get the answar. Reply one of my question: Have god given the rights to a human or state to decide about somesone religion or faith?? Is their any example except from Pakistan that any state has declared someone faith ?? By the way Ahmedis are not living only in Pakistan a major count is living in India and other countries as well – had God given the right to any one to kill on faiths grounds ?? expel from school, my dear you are not facing hate propogenda on the basis of faith, otherwise you never have said these word that expel from school is normal job – Allah na keray ke app kabhi hate compaign ka target banoo, specially in Pakistan

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  • Observer
    Aug 12, 2012 - 1:51AM

    How ironic!! The Ahmedis were at the forefront in demanding the formation of Pakistan in order to be free from Hindu “tyranny”!! Not only the Ahmedis, but the Mohajirs have also come to regret the Partition as declared by Altaf Hussain in Delhi. Altaf openly said the Partition was a mistake and asked india to take back the 20 Million Muhajirs. All this proves that the narrow ideology of religion can never be a sound foundation for a nation.

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  • AllahRukha
    Aug 12, 2012 - 3:10AM

    @Muhammad Irfan:
    Just like you have the right to call one whatever you want, others have the right to practice or say whatever they want.

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  • Khalid
    Aug 12, 2012 - 5:45AM

    Murtaza Hussain! No sane person should be keen to pretend or represent the faith that you are presenting under the beautiful garb of Islam.
    I am shocked to read your logic. Right or wrong . . ..does this justify the shameful cruelties on the innocent victims of school going teenage and tender age children????. If this is how you interpret Islam, THE RELIGION OF PEACE, then I am sorry to say that the people around you should be worried about their fate. Because tomorrow if somebody with a stronger muscle applies the same logic to you, then you probably will have no place to run away. The key to understanding is to apply the same logic to yourself and then see how it looks like. Please give some calm and quiet thing to my submissions.

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  • Mufazzil
    Aug 12, 2012 - 7:32AM

    To be very honest, for the first time ever I felt sympathy for Ahmadies. Conversely its a biassed video, like the producer should have added the general opinion of true Islamic Scholars too. An advice to Ahmadies, stop calling yourself Muslim and stop associating your believes with Islam, this is the only solution to stop yourselves from persecution. Islam has limitations, nobody has the right to change it accordingly. However being a Sunni Muslim, I condemn the brutal maassacre of humanity in Pakistan.

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  • Obaid Ullah Khan
    Aug 12, 2012 - 11:03AM

    @Observer: “! Not only the Ahmedis, but the Mohajirs have also come to regret the Partition”, who told you that we Ahmadies are regretting the partition. There is not a single Ahmadi in Pakistan who regrets Partition or creation of Pakistan. This is our homeland more than those mullahs who were against the پ of Pakistan. Ahmadies have been and will always remain at the forefront whenever our dear homeland requires any sacrifices or services. History of Pakistan, of course not the tempered history but the legitimate history, has never faced a situation where our country required the services and sacrifices and Ahmadies were not at the forefront. Ahmadies have fought with the military in 1948 at the front of Kashmir, the battle of Run of Kuch was fought by Gen Iftakhar Janjua, battle of Chawinda by Gen Abdul Ali Malik, In Air force Sqd Leader Munir ud din and many more who have been omitted from the history for they all were Ahmadies. Dr. Salam’s contributions and services are no more hidden, Ch. Zafrullah Khan’s services have been given complete twists and tempered in history books but true accounts are always available for the truth seekers.

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  • Waqar Bhatti
    Aug 12, 2012 - 11:09AM

    this ideology of Pakistani Mullahs show that it was better to be persecuted as Muslims by the hands of Hindus in India. It is far more shameful attitude that some sects who have gained power or influence over others start such persecution especially Ahmadies are facing it at regular intervals and seeking help from Allah Almighty.

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  • Mansoor Bukhari
    Aug 12, 2012 - 4:44PM

    Rabia…

    I must say that “Hat’s Off to you”. You have done a great job…! And people who dare to speak the Truth. Allah is always with them…

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  • Ihtasham Umair
    Aug 12, 2012 - 4:57PM

    @Usama Javed:
    In the history of the Islam the Definition of a muslim has been never made, this is done first time in Pakistan, if u really know the history of Islam.
    What u talking about the other muslim’s rights? Are they having the patent of Words Muslim, Mosque or even verses of Quran. So that no one else can use it for own self.
    And this is not the responsibility of state to decide the faith of any single one. State has no right to make decision regarding anyone faith, this is obvious from the early Islamic state example.

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  • Aug 12, 2012 - 9:40PM

    I fully agree with you.@Akshay, India:

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  • Mobashir Ahmad
    Aug 12, 2012 - 10:21PM

    @Usama Javed:
    What about the arrival of the promised Messiah?

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  • Mobashir Ahmad
    Aug 12, 2012 - 10:29PM

    @tariq:
    You have all the right to call others as Muslims or non Muslims or whatever you feel like. However, if you are a follower of Hazrat Muhammad (pbuh), you must be knowing that the holy prophet (pbuh) considered everyone a Muslim who recited Kalima. So, you may like to ask your self as to what your true beliefs are?

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  • Sardar KHAN
    Aug 12, 2012 - 10:48PM

    Sardar KHAN: @Akhshay;india
    I am surprised to see my name being used by a bunderstani to comment on this story.Either you are a raw paid agent or a habutual liar to use other persons identity.This proves how low these bunderstanis could go to melign the name of Pakistan.To put the record straight:-
    a) Pakistan is not a secular state at all.It is Islamic Republic i.e.Islam is the religion of State
    b)Bunderstan is a so called secular state.But in reality it is a hindu state in all its actions.
    c)Record on the treatment of miniorities of bunderstan is so bad it is known all over the
    world and whatever you do you can’t hide it.
    d)So stop using fictitious name to melign,giving bad name and spreading dirt on Pakistan.
    By using a muslim name,you will not succeed in your dirty games for which you are paid.
    As for as the real truth is you bunderstanis are upto their neck in supressing and killing the people of miniority religion in your country.It is still going on in assam.You must die with shame for all the trouble your countrymen are giving to your own countrymen i.e.to the mniorities.Hope you will never again use someone else’ name to comment.It will be better not to coment at all.On the other hand you bunderstanis are so shameless it will not shame you at al. .

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  • Mobashir Ahmad
    Aug 12, 2012 - 10:48PM

    @Ali:
    Almost all Muslms believe in the advent of a Messiah & Mehdi as was foretold by Hazrat Muhammad (pbuh). Even non Muslims like the Christians, Hindus and Budhists are waiting for the Christ, Krishna and Budha. We, the Ahmedis, do consider Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a prophet, the promised Messiah and Mehdi. Non Ahmedis are still waiting for one.

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  • Mobashir Ahmad
    Aug 12, 2012 - 10:55PM

    @Muslim:
    Isn’t it an utter confession on your part that you can not support your beliefs with reason or reference from the holy book? You, as Muslims, are supposed to preach and spread Islam. Let’s see doing that. But do it following the sunnah of the holy prophet i.e. personal conduct of love, peace and tolerance.

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  • Just an Opinion
    Aug 13, 2012 - 2:54AM

    In every religion they have their own identity and their own name like, Christians, Jews , Hindus Muslims so and so, The Muslims are the followers of Muhammed (PBUH) and believes on one God (ALLAH), Ahmedis don’t believe that the Muhammed (PBUH) is the last holly prophet and they have so many disbelieves with Muslims and the follow Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani then why they keep insisting to being called Muslims? They represent their selves with title “Muslman” and want to use the name “Masjid” for their worship places. If they have conflicts on believes with Muslims then why they don’t come up with some other Title which represent their own identity? Most of the time Muslims got annoyed when Ahmedis called their selves a Muslim, this is not acceptable to most of the “Musalman Community”. Like what if Hindus of Pakistan start calling their selves a Muslim and claim that the word “Musalman” is not registered only for the followers of Muhammed (PBUH) we can also use it.

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  • Waqar Ahmed
    Aug 13, 2012 - 3:17AM

    when I heard that two of our mosques were attacked it was heart-rending news for me then I was informed that my father was martyred there, I recited the verse inna lillahi_ wa_
    innaillaihay_ rajeoon.At that time society was supposed to give me moral support but I was marooned at all, My class fellows were told to stay away from me.My best friends used to abuse me that” I am an infidel and a follower of apostate prophet”,After his demise I along with my family were confined to the premises of our house and we were discriminated in the society but Almighty Allah is with us we have nothing to do with you,but we have to do with the great teachings of Holy Prophet (S.A.W) and Almighty Allah .I leave my case to the court of Allah, I seek justice and refuge from His divine court,not the court of yours.My message is LOVE FOR ALL HATRED FOR NONE

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  • kashif
    Aug 13, 2012 - 10:44AM

    great work done by journalist

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  • Qaisrani
    Aug 13, 2012 - 11:33AM

    Nice work, I hope some has guts to air this.

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  • Fateen
    Aug 13, 2012 - 2:56PM

    Great job!!!!

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  • Sardar KHAN
    Aug 13, 2012 - 7:11PM

    @Mobashir Ahmad:
    You said all muslims are waiting for Esa al salam as a Messiah.But you believe mirza qadiani was the promised messiah.Well and good it is your believe,I have no problem with that.You can believe what you believe.But we muslims were given some certain signs about the 2nd.coming of Esa al a salam.Those signs will come at or 40 years before the end of the world.That timehasn’t come yet according thesigns fortold by Prophet Muhammud SAW.As in all the true muslims eyes mrza ghulam muhammud of qadiani made false claims and from his own writings it is quite clear he can not be the promised messiah.There,ends the argument as he himself negate his own claims.
    Let us see your own admission,that you believe he was a prophet forget it,I believe his claim was false.But as I have said before,I have no problem with that.
    The problem comes when you qadianies insist that he was a prophet for all the muslims and you try to force on us without any proofs.To solve the problem is simpl.Why,then you say,”You believe in mirza ghulam ahmed as your prophet and leader.”Then why don’t you call yourself Mirzai’s,the fallowers of mirza ghulam ahmed qadiani?Or it is to painfull for you to associate yourself with your own leader or you still want to decieve other non believers?
    Hope from now on you will feel proud to say you are a mirzai and not a muslim as I am proud of myself in beleiving Prophet MuhammusSAW.is the last and final Prophet of AllahSWT.forever and till the day of judgement and when the Massiaha will come,He will be the fallower of Islam nd not a new prophet as claimed and refuted by mirza ghulam ahmed qadiani himself.
    If you people start honouring your leader by adopting his name as Mirzais,the no problem,I will give you a cuddle and receive you with open arms.I pray mirza as your leader will give you courage to associate with his name as you acept him as your leader.Recommend

  • Stranger
    Aug 13, 2012 - 7:52PM

    @Naeem Rana:
    Going through all this and perceiving it to be such how else do you have to learn the way to popularity!

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  • Khalid
    Aug 13, 2012 - 8:09PM

    @Sardar KHAN: Name of followers of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmed is Ahmadis and the Passport of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan marks them as ‘Ahmadiyya’ which is the right name of Ahmadis and they proudly call themselves.
    Calling somebody or some religion by a name which is not the name of that religion just to offend or tease is contrary to the teachings of Holy Quran which you as a Muslim must be reciting. It is not expected from a reasonable and a sober person to resort to such a practice.

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  • Mobashir Ahmad
    Aug 13, 2012 - 8:49PM

    @Sardar KHAN:
    We, the Ahmedis, believe Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad to be the promised Messiah who always claimed to be the follower of Hazrat Muhammad (pbuh) and Islam and so we do, the Ahmadis. One of his couplets in Persian when translated in English would mean, “I am mesmerized by the love of Muhammad (pbuh) after the love of God, if doing so is kufr, I have committed a great kufr”.

    We, the Ahmedis, don’t force others to become Ahmedis as we believe in La Ikra fi Din. With the prevalent persecution of Ahmedis, only a fool will become Ahmedi without due conviction knowing the price he/she may have to pay for the conversion. Going by your words that the promised Messiah will be Hazrat Esa’s (as) second coming, please explain as to how this second advent will occur and if Hazrat Esa (as), during his second advent, be a prophet or not.

    Qadyan is the name of a village in Amritsar and certainly all Ahmedis do not belong to Qadyan which is why we call ourselves Ahmedis and not Qadyanis just like all Muslims are not Makki or Madni. Also, Mirza is a caste of persian clan and there are many non Ahmedis who use Mirza as a prefix to their name but all Ahmedis do not belong to that clan which is why we don’t call ourselves as Mirzais. The holy prophet (pbuh) asked his followers not to call others by bad names and not to abuse others and so on. So, we expect the followers (which we, the Ahmedis, too, are) of Hazrat Muhammad (pbuh) to practice what you believe in and follow his teachings and practices.

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  • Sardar KHAN
    Aug 13, 2012 - 10:28PM

    @Khalid:
    The whole argument is that you qadianis/ahmedis yourself do not consider the true muslims as yourselfi.e.non-belivers.To prove my point,I will refer to your present jamat leaders pronouncements on ahmedia television.As for as Holy Quran is concerned,I believe in it wholehearted.
    The trouble with you marzais/ahmedis is if you have nonswer to thepoint raised,you jump to take a sheild of Holy Quran.If youhave ever read the Holy Quran properly and true tafseers of the Muslim Scholars and not tafseers by mirza ghulam ahmed qadiani/your other writers,you wouldn’t be merzai/ahmedi at all.So to argue with me do not bring Holy Quran for your defence at all.Holy Quran was revealed to Prophet Muhammud PBU.and not to mirza ghulam ahmed qadiani.SO LEAVE HOLY QURAN out of this,give any proofs from the writings of mirza sahib as he claims,whatever he wrote was divine revelations to him.Is it you yourself,do not the saying’s of mirza sahib yourself and do not want to present them in defense.Because,there so much contradictions in his own writings an non of the predictions he predict came to fullfill.SO TO ARGUE BRING MIRZA SAHIB’S WRITINGS and NOT HOLY QURAN as your defence.Recommend

  • shahid
    Aug 13, 2012 - 11:00PM

    first of all, i salute Rabia Mehmood and ET for once again giving space to the plight of Ahmadi Muslims in Pakistan. As mentioned above, English media is daring to dedicate its pages for the oppressed but i wonder when will the popular Urdu media will bother to highlight these issues.
    The Urdu paper of the Express group continuously prints Anti-Ahmadiyya hateful propaganda just like Jang, Nawa e Waqt, etc. This tells us that the group owner is pleasing both liberal and rightist forces by his English and Urdu publications.
    Though i am very thankful to ET for producing this documentary, but still i can’t resist saying that the target viewers of this documentary are liberal or at least educated class. I wish Mr Lakhani would allow it to be telecasted on Express News channel as well, which has a wider range of viewers, if he is honest in raising awareness against persecution.
    The 2nd amendment, the Ordinance XX and blasphemy law are a clear violation of human rights in pakistan. Without repealing such black laws we cannot hope for a better pakistan. Ahmadis are loyal and patriot citizens of this country and have equal right to live and demand equal human rights. God bless Pakistan

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  • Rahman
    Aug 13, 2012 - 11:17PM

    @Sardar KHAN:

    I did not read all comments but read your post. I find your logic very naive and irrational.
    Your fist statement amused me. You wrote, “The trouble with you marzais/ahmedis is if you have nonswer to thepoint raised,you jump to take a sheild of Holy Quran.” Brother, is there any shield more compulsive than Holy Quran? If Holy Quran covers anybody than all other theological arguments will not change any true Muslim’s mind. All other arguments automatically become null and void when Quran states otherwise. Mind you, I am not saying that he is right or you are right I am just showing you the hollowness of your logic.
    Secondly, you are assuming and accusing that Ahmadis never read Quran properly. Ahmadis can level similar allegation against you. Therefore, this kind of generalization and sweeping statements does not stand in any intellectual and productive discussion. Brother, generalization is a byproduct of a subjective approach and you can never achieve any results from it, except, maligning each other and each other’s believes.
    May Allah guide all of us on the right path.

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  • Imran
    Aug 13, 2012 - 11:53PM

    Very well done Rabia Mehmood! Really a good documentary. JAZAK ALLAH.

    I salute those who persecute. May Allah give all of us the same courage and strength Ameen.

    Ahmadiyyat Zindabad

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  • Maryam Ali
    Aug 14, 2012 - 12:13AM

    Jazakallah Rabia for bringing this up. May Allah help you in every step of your life. In such a state where one does not have a secured life, how next generations can flourish and grow. This negativity will hinder in the development of Pakistan. Students should raise questions of quality of education and services in the country but not one’s religion afterall they all are Pakistani. Everyone has to face the Day of Judgement. Leave this for that and live the world peacefully and @Sarah Ahmadis are Muslims, you can ask any Ahmadi kid to recite Kalma Tayyaba for you.

    Also, there is a Divine Hand of God on Ahmadis, whenever something bad happen in one part of the world, HE Bless millions other Ahmadis living in other peaceful countries, these sacrifices are not going fruitless.

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  • Aug 14, 2012 - 2:43AM

    @Usama Javed: Dear Usman Salam-a-Masnoon
    You are very much mitaken. If Ahmadie are not muslims in spite of the fact they love Islam, practice it and propagate it, then who else is Muslims, who never care for the teachings of the HOLY Quran, who are erasing Kalma Tayyab from the face of Masajid and who are killing innocent people…, Absolute culmination of Prophethood is against the teaching of Islam and Quran and Ahadiths. Are you not waiting for Hadhrat Eis a s to come? The prophethood which is culminated is with a new Shariah. Din-a-mullah fee sbeelillah fsad. May Allah guide you. No one has right to give verdict in the matter of faith not even Assembly. Ask guidence from Allah. May Allah guide you the path He is pleased with Aameen. Zarif Ahmad

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  • azeem
    Aug 14, 2012 - 2:48AM

    Thanks for showing real face of the society, May Alla enable them to understand the real message of Islam.

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  • Khalid
    Aug 14, 2012 - 5:07AM

    @Sardar KHAN: Thank you very much for the compliments. Yes Sir Ahmadis do take shelter under the Holy Quran always and every time. It is Allah’s Book and to HIM, Ahmadis always fall back to seek guidance and shelter in all their difficult times and also in their moments of happiness. Yes Sir Ahmadis take pride in it.

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  • mirza
    Aug 14, 2012 - 11:07PM

    @Usama Javed:
    I am extremely shocked to read your comments saying that Ahmedis are not Muslim.Ahmdis believe in KALMA and 5-pillars of Islam and Holy Book called Holy Quran.The final shariat from GOD.Read little bit about Islam and history.Please read the last Sermon of Holy Prophat peace be upon .For God sake read and observe how he lived his life his treatment with non-muslims his merci for poor people.Let me ask you do you know what Ahmedis believe in .I want to communicate with if you are willing to and use descent language Other wise God bless you .
    have a nice day.

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  • Ramzan Sharif
    Aug 15, 2012 - 12:57AM

    Indeed a very refined piece of work by Rabia Mehmood, highlighting the atrocities against the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. Now it is a challenge for the journalists in Pakistan to seek answers from the perpetrators, and ensure their answers are enlightened by the teachings of the Holy Quran and the Holy Prophet of islam. They may start by explaining why is it okay to defy “There is no compulsion in religion” and “killing one person is like killing the entire nation”…May truth prevail, Inshya Allah!

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  • Kdspirited
    Aug 15, 2012 - 1:01AM

    SO by most muslims defintion. If you are a non muslim you are eligible to die. I hope that is not the case in other religions because millions of muslims live in western countries. If their religion which we muslims believe is inferior to islam can teach them tolerance against non muslims than we should be fine. But if it doesnt very soon laws would be passed to kill all non christians, jews, Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists in their respective countries. The final judgement is in the hands of Allah. We are nobody to judge someones faith. Its between them and their god. Ahmedis are Pakistanis just like shias, sunnis and deobandis. Our laws should protect them and not allow these murderous factions to propogate hate and discrimnation against. Them We as Paksitanis should be against all forms of hate and discrimination. Becasue it it is their women in children today it can be yours tomorrow. Hate does not discriminate. Also despite all that these mullahs have done to the Ahmedis I have not seen one incident of intolerance from the Ahmedis towards anyone. Not even the ones who slaughter them. I think they are more practicing in their faith of tolerance than most so called muslims I know.

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  • Swedish Ahmadi
    Aug 15, 2012 - 1:23AM

    @A brother in faith:
    It is because Shia-muslims are not condemnd as being Non-Muslim, but Ahmadi Muslims are declared to be non-Muslim by whole so called Muslim Ummah.
    Shia Muslims are allowed to say Assalamoalaikum, do Adhan, say Kalima Shahada, say that they are Muslims, but these rights the Ahmadiyya followers do not have.

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  • M. Islam
    Aug 15, 2012 - 3:00AM

    Kudos to Rabia Mehmood for taking the time to document the persecution of Ahmadi Muslims in Pakistan. If it weren’t for fair-minded and considerate people like her, the plight of one of Pakistan’s most persecuted religious sects would continue to go unnoticed. I applaud her courage, neutrality and professionalism in covering the issue.Recommend

  • Adeel
    Aug 15, 2012 - 3:48AM

    its been more than 200 years, it is not the early years. Ahmadi’s are non- Muslims and its a fact. Otherwise u r trying to say that 1.5 Arab of Muslims are Kaafir.

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  • Aug 15, 2012 - 4:45AM

    I am seriously concerned, why male reporters cannot dare bring forward the truth with a forceful effort, such as this young lady has amazingly done. Perhaps only female journalists are dedicated and committed to there profession. And proudly they have shown many times that truth has no fear.
    simply astonishing…..
    Very well done, Rabia Mehmood , please don’t stop here.Recommend

  • Faisal
    Aug 15, 2012 - 1:31PM

    When a Muslim says “la ilaha illallah muhammadur rasulullah” he/she confirms his/her belief that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is the LAST Prophet. Those who do not believe in this, (like the Hindus, the Christians, The Jews and so forth, ) do not declare themselves as Muslims, so they are tolerated much more than those who try to deceive other Muslims by pretending to be Muslims while they are NOT.

    As for hatred and killings, the report says 200 Ahmadis are killed as a result of hatred since 1984,,,,,, Without being supportive of those killings, I want to draw attention that target killings which happen every day in Karachi alone amount to much more, and need to be addressed on a higher priority.

    On the prevalence of Islamic Law in Pakistan, surely we have astrayed a lot from the main course, and from the reason why our forefathers gave their blood to get us independence. And surely we have forgotten or deleted the echoes of 1947 when scores would chant day after day without fear , “Pakistan Ka Matlub Kiya, La ilaha illallah Muhammadur Rasulullah”

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  • Maqsood
    Aug 15, 2012 - 6:27PM

    Well, I’m sure, no channel in this country has the courage to broadcast it on air. However it is a great effort and courage to discuss the taboo of Ahmadis, and hence appreciable.
    Reading out all the comments above, disappoints me even more. We are so biased, even our so-called educated ones can’t make the sense out of it and their stubborn prejudiced minds against Ahmadis come out with radical thoughts.
    This docummentary does not deal with what their religion is. It deals with what your religion is (i.e. Islam) and what are you doing in the name of islam. Leave them whatever they are until they are not creating disorder or rebellion in Pakistan. At least give them the basic human rights, if you are not willing to give them their rights as Pakistanis. Shame on you. I blame these educated illiterate Pakistanis more than the uneducated ones. what is the use of this education when it was unable to remove the filth of your minds?
    Just think…

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  • Aug 15, 2012 - 7:49PM

    Thank you @TahirHussain for such a profound explanation, I also condemn the persecution of any minority but the fact is fact either they accept it or not, If you will violate the Law you should be dealt accordingly, yes people are taking law in their hands this is because of the malfunctioning of our judicial system in Pakistan and overall disgusted law & order situation. More Muslim Masjids have been attacked in Pakistan but we see only their worship places being guarded by Policeman 24/7,,, thousands Muslims killed in Gujrat, India,,,, America now saying that the weapons being present in Iraq was a misstatement a simple explanation for killing millions of innocent Muslims, champions of hipocracy the Dalai Lamas otherwise are pure not marrying, but raping thousands of Muslim women in Burma was their legitimate duty,,, and ignoring all this the Pop of Vatican only notices Pakistani Blasphemy Laws,,, oh come on stop fooling people around, if we are treating that badly then why the Sheyzan group is earning high profits,,, The Law is for protecting the belief of majority living in this country, as Germany have laws restricting people from talking about Nazis,,, even Iqbal talked about the hypocrisy of this cult,,,If the people thinking, making and living and this country have the same opinion about this law then I believe the Qadians should revisit their policy … I hope my oppinion is not being blocked by ET…Recommend

  • waqar pirzada
    Aug 15, 2012 - 8:03PM

    Hazarat Ghulameahmed of Qadian (AS) was an “ASHIQE SADIQ” [TRUE LOVER] of Hazarat Muhammad Mustafa (SAW) and NO one can match that.
    The Non-Ahmadis who call them Muslims should “READ” the books of the Promised Messiah and find out the true stature of the Messiah,

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  • bilal
    Aug 17, 2012 - 9:37AM

    Brilliant and brave job done.

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  • Mobashir Ahmad
    Aug 18, 2012 - 3:59AM

    @Ahmad:
    I appreciate your condemnation of the persecution of Ahmedis. Examples of all types are available to be quoted and so are the proverbs e.g. Might is Right. However, the universally accepted moral values and more importantly the teachings of the Holy Quran and the teachings/practice of the holy prophet (pbuh) are the beacon light for us while quoting examples and practicing our deeds. I also condemn the killings/persecution of Muslims in Burma, other parts of the world or even in Pakistan. However, these killings and persecutions should not be cited to cover up or belittle the persecution of others like Ahmedis. A bad thing is bad. It’s rather surprising to learn from you that the Law is for protecting the belief of majority living in this country and quoting the example of Germany. I think we need to give good example to support our arguments. The majority should have full faith in its beliefs and needs no protection of law that restrictions are imposed on a minority for fear of conversions from majority to the minority. Hazrat Muhammad (pbuh) did not spread Islam following what you are talking about. The holy prophet (pbuh) displayed strength of his character to spread Islam which manifested truthfulness, honesty, justice, tolerance and kindness. He did not introduce any law to prevent others from practicing their faith and even preaching it. I am really surprised that you think your beliefs to be so vulnerable that you need the support of a law. Beliefs come from within and can’t be forced upon others.

    Let us first agree if a promised messiah was to come in this era or not. Whether that person has come or not can only be dealt with after agreement on the first question. If the answers is positive, then we ought to agree that the advent of messiah will not adversely affect the Khatamiat of the holy prophet (pbuh).

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  • Aaryan
    Aug 18, 2012 - 4:49AM

    Allah grant secure shelter to all Ahmedies.

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  • Sardar KHAN
    Aug 18, 2012 - 10:22PM

    @Aaryan:
    Just come to the true Islam,”Saying I believe Prophet Muhammud PBU.is the FINAL Prophet of ALLAHA SWT. and no one is a prophet after HIM PBU.”
    I assure you will have peace not only in this world but also in the next life.

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  • James
    Aug 20, 2012 - 2:00PM

    @MuzJee:
    When it appears in the Urdu media,then there is hope and a new dawn

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  • Parkha Khan
    Aug 23, 2012 - 3:49AM

    An Eye opening documentary . You’ve really put in your efforts. Wonder if it will ever be on-aired by some news channel.

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  • Mobashir Ahmad
    Aug 24, 2012 - 2:32AM

    @Sardar KHAN:
    What happens in the world hereafter is the business between each person and his God. But how come you are making peace for Ahmadis conditional to accepting a certain set of beliefs. Does Islam lay down such like conditions for grant of peace to its people? La Iqra Fid Deen?

    Who will the promised Messiah be? Will he be a prophet?
    How will the onset of the promised Messiah affect the finality of the prophet-hood? I look forward to response from all Muslims and the sundry, the ones who are not Ahmadis.

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  • 4u
    Aug 24, 2012 - 7:34PM

    @iftikhar ahmad:
    This paper is all for you.
    Staffed by you.
    News about u.

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  • Mobashir Ahmad
    Aug 26, 2012 - 8:53AM

    Belated Eid Mubarik to all.

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  • Sardar KHAN
    Aug 26, 2012 - 11:15PM

    @Mobashir Ahmad:
    As Holy Quran clearly states the conditions under which muslims should spend their lives in this mortal world,we do not have to doubt about the entrance to the eternal world.As this our stay in this world is only temporary and we must strive to attain the entry to the next beutiful world.It is not me who is making any conditions at all,you are mistaken to say it is me who is making up conditions at all.
    As ALLAH (SWT) clearly states in Holy Quran,we must submit ourselves completly to Him and His WORD revealed To Hazrat Muhammud (PBUH) without any whim or excuse.As in Holy Quran it is clearly stated,”Hazarat Muhammud SWA. is the LAST Rasool & Prophet and no more prophet will ever come to this world,ii anyone claims to be a prophet,he will be false and must be rejected.”With that message of ALLAH SWT.I catagorically believe,that the Promised Messiah will not be a new prophet at all but he will follow Hazarat Muhammud SWA.in word and deeds.We all muslims have firm believe in it totally without any questions.I firmly believe in KHATAM A NABUWAT OF HAZARAT MUHAMMUD SWA.so is the believe of all true muslims all over the world.Submission to will of ALLAH SWT.is my aim and will not accept any false prophet at any cost.Recommend

  • aysabakhat
    Sep 1, 2012 - 10:56AM

    @Mohsin Sayeed:
    Reality is bitter so if the persons favouring what present Rabid no matter and if some of them are innocent Muslim beware of the tactics of this Jamaat they only wanted to defaced Islam and Pakistan

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  • Mobashir Ahmad
    Sep 1, 2012 - 9:13PM

    @aysabakhat:
    Making a general statement and trying to defame a person or a community is not fair. So, I request you to prove your allegation.

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  • Syed Zeeshan Haider
    Sep 4, 2012 - 3:17PM

    A brilliantly done job. Keep it up.

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