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US losing patience with Pakistan, says Panetta
US defence secretary says difficult to achieve peace in Afghanistan as long as there are 'safe havens in Pakistan'.
US defence secretary says difficult to secure Afghanistan so long as there are 'safe havens in Pakistan'. PHOTO: REUTERS/FILE
KABUL: Defence Secretary Leon Panetta said on Thursday the United States was reaching the limits of its patience with Pakistan because of the safe havens the country offered to insurgents in neighbouring Afghanistan.
It was some of the strongest language used by a US official to describe the strained ties between Washington and Islamabad.
Panetta was speaking in the Afghan capital, where he arrived for talks with military leaders amid rising violence in the war against the Taliban and a spate of deadly incidents, including a NATO air strike said to have killed 18 villagers.
“It is difficult to achieve peace in Afghanistan as long as there is safe haven for terrorists in Pakistan,” Panetta, who arrived in Kabul a day after a deadly insurgent bombing, told reporters.
“It is very important for Pakistan to take steps. It is an increasing concern, the issue of safe haven, and we are reaching the limits of our patience.”
Pakistan’s cooperation is considered critical to US efforts to stabilise Afghanistan before most foreign combat troops leave at the end of 2014.
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Same is the case with Pakistan Sir! :)Recommend
How about the safe heavens in Afghanistan? have you managed to cleared them up yet?
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Pakistan can no more continue its Kidnap for Ransom policy. Either you are with the US or against it. Agreed with Panetta.
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we also reaching the limits of our patience regarding you and your policies. there is no safe heavens in Pakistan. it’s only your propaganda. you are your people doesn’t seems competent enough to handle affairs in Afghanistan so don’t put the blame on others.
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Not a minute too late.
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Keep losing it =D
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Spell Mistake: “was dificult to secure Afghanistan” -> difficult
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This statement is the consequence of Indian and Afghanistan briefings. Surely they must have polluted him with their toxic propaganda.
After ISAF/NATO patience ran out to stay any further in Afghanistan, USA wants to outsource Afghan War.
After Pakistan’s refusal, the next country which can under take the venture is India. Best of Luck.
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I think Mr.pannetta should also keep it in his mind that,pakistanis are also losing thier patience,at drone attacks,at US involvement in our internal affairs and in our ploitics and backing our corrupt leaders always.Mr.pannetta should also keep it in mind that the whole world might be loosing patience at USA,and espcially the suffering afghans,since they are bing in this war from US,since more than 10 yrs without any results.
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Time to take a glass of cold water.
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and we are losing patience as well! we cant get more of our people killed!
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Time to wake up!
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typo in the foto caption: ‘dificult’ = ‘difficult’
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Pakistan Losing patience with US…..
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There’s a certain de ja vu about this- wasnt it another war criminal Henry Kissinger who once said to the then Pakistani Foreign Minister, Aziz Ahmed that if Pakistan didnt desist from its nuclear programme that the ‘US would make a horrible example of Pakistan’?
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I am also losing patience with Pakistan. When is secularism coming here?
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U r loosing patience with Pakistan, In fact u are loosing a war
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Seems to be paying to the Afghan audience or the electorate in the US. Pk policy is compliant with US requirements. Even the NATO supplies have been routed alternatively, so this ‘threat’ is for a different audience.
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US and Pakistan are both the best allies from decades, their main aim is do destroy Afghanistan…nothing more. sometimes, they get angry at each other and sometimes they solutes each other…this is puzzled game.Recommend
I think NATO supply is about to resume shortly :-)
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this is the time that we Pakistani should realize “friends not masters”
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@Usama Kabbir!! Kidnap for ransom policy? This is real world my friend. If you do any wrong to anyone, expect the same. As for Mr. Panetta!! We expected this ever since you came to the region. If you are losing patience, SO ARE WE!!!
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How come a peace could prevail in Afghanistan when the biggest terror player in the world has kept Afghanistan occupied from the last one decade. Being a Pakistani, our patience is also touching its limits now.
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You have been loosing patience in Afghanistan for over 10 years now…you have lost this war a lot more miserably than Vietnam…!
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@Maz3tt:
you live in denial my friend and there’s no point telling you anything.
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SEE Pakistan , this is the result of all the sacrifices you put up in this war .I am very concern about why our GOV and Army is not raising their voice against US blackmailing. and Mr. Panetta we need evidences and we need answers to the heavens in Afghanistan against PAK civilians ,we need answers against your support to Big Lords in Baluchistan who are causing trouble .
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Invasion of the pure land is coming.
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@Maz3tt:
You really think Pakistani’s are handling it’s affairs or capable? 65 years of your history shows, Pakistan doing a great job in the opposite direction!
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@Maz3tt:
How come then al-Qaeda No. 2 Yahya Al-libi was found in North Waziristan and OBL was found in Abbotabad. We cannot hunt with the hound and run with the hare.
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@Asad:
How about the safe heavens in Afghanistan? have you managed to cleared them up yet?
That was not possible with double faced ally (?), you can destroy OBL’s hideout but not facts !
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Is there any way we can change the people with radicalised views and extremist actions to bring with common public fold? – May be we need another gandhi/ theresa.
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Does Pakistan realise that US and NATO has already signed land transit agreement with Central Asian nations?
Not only they are now able to get their cargo in but also take their troops and cargo out in 2014 without passing through Pakistan!
It is a game of who wants whom more so let us wait for another year and IMF re-payment time! Just like all the noise changed before Chicago conference, it would change again and Paksitan will have to HUG the same Americans!
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Same here, says the people of Pakistan.Recommend
Hats off to Pakistan for scoring self goal after self goal! This just shows the lack opf wisdom in the entire polity and establishment. Having painted themselves into a corner, pakistan has only the wall to stare at. And it will be a hard place between the devil and the deep sea!
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I think Pakistan has given a lot of sacrifices in the war of terrorism, I think with the limited resources Pak is doing its best. USA should share information if there agencies knows about safe heavens.Recommend
Run out of patience?? And do what? Repeat Bush-II concept of “with us or against us” and repeat Armitage promise of bombing the nation to stone age?
USA should realize it can’t give money to Pakistan to ‘win hearts and minds’, when it is also bombing a part of Pakistan. A better method is to bring about change within Pakistan, by making the citizens realize how out of touch they are with their reality.
Economic sanctions, and denial of market would bring that reality home much faster.
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The people of Pakistan have reached the limits of their patience….
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what is the purpose of this war “WAR ON TERROR” y u invaded to afghanistan?because of osama bin laden? his involement in destruction of world trade centre?…first of all the invasion of any independent country it is against the charter of united states.and in america it is cleared that it was a big drama in destruction of “world trade centre” and the majority of intellectual person in USA beleive that there is no involvement of osama bin laden……when the base of fighting is FALSE then what is the meaning of war on terror? i am asking one question that the wat is writ of american and karzai governemt’s limit? only in KABUL?
Talibans are freedom fighter they are fighting with their cause to free their country and taliban are not danger to any country have they invaded to any country ? but i am sorry ! you american’s recard is not safe in regard of INVASION to independent country.
Taliban are freedom fighter same like WASHINGTON (the father of american nation).
we know that u dont want to see the pakistan in world’s map but inshallah it will forever when allah wish.Recommend
India-Pakistan are coming closer with each passing day and the people of both country think they can resolve their issues peacefully but every US official visiting India thinks they can score brownie points with the Indians with statements against Pakistan. It’s really pathetic how they think they can threaten a nation while visiting their neighbour!
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pls help in clearing fata. it is an area filled with notorious criminal gangs, kidnappers, arsonists, murderers etc. No ordinary pakistani can even visit this place.
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And Pakistan is loosing patience with the stubborn attitude of US!!
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thank you for dragging Pakistan into this so called Fight AGAINST HUMANITY Oh I am sorry it’s TERRORISM.
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So America makes plans to neutralize our nukes, sidelines us, invades our country, kills our soldiers, helps India fuel insurgency in Balochistan through Afghanistan. All this, after we have had thousands of ours troops, including ISI officials killed, in this war on terror, thousands more civilians killed, after our economy had been destroyed because of this war and after we have captured hundreds of Al Qaide operatives.
And let me get this right. America is losing patience with us? I think it should be the other way around.
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What about the safe havens (camps) in Afghanistan where BLA terrorists are trained.
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I appreciated the patience of American nation for being high rated fools by CIA, do what ever you can old man!!
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@Maz3tt:
It’s just too bad the US losing its patience could actually be a bad thing. Pakistan losing its patience means it’s time to buy stock in tissue companies.
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Please first clear the safe heavens in Afghanistan. Mr. Panetta have you heard of Nuristan and Kunar in Northern Afghanistan? The ISAF forces cannot even go in there. It is controlled totally and absolutely by Taliban factions/sympathisers. Clean your house first. And PLEASE stop the peanuts aid for once and all. Thanks
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Americans says we have terrorist on our soil, Yes we do have you people on our soil because you have killed more of humanity than any other terrorist groups.Recommend
Those who believe Pakistan is not a safe haven for terrorists, have to explain why terrorist leaders like Osama bin Laden and Abu Yahya Al Libi keep popping up in Pakistan territory.
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Well Well Well !!
Threats after Threats after Threats.
What about the thousands of Pakistanis killed in the so called War on Terror !!
But will the Pakistanis ever learn from experience? Will they ever learn to work for the interest of their own country rather than fingering the neighbors and waging their tails to Super Powers??
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Sure you are losing patience with Pakistan. So what are you going to do about it? Bomb us like Iraq and Afghanistan??? In 10 years you couldnt stabilise and control the 34 million population of afghanistan and your going to take on a country of 180 million? Even sadists wouldnt make that choice!
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To all the commentators above who are harsh critics of US:
Please show some gratitude to Americans; without US billions, Pakistan would have been nowhere. Essentially, Pak was running the show, building infrastructure and building army with other peoples money. Even now, without the US charity, and without the US investments, Pak won’t have money to pay salaries to your army. Without the US aid, Pak would never got the infrastructure built in place. During the 60′s and 70′s when most of India had only narrow, pot-holed roads, Pak had shiny, swanky wide roads.
Let me be blunt: the milk you drink, the bread you eat, the medicines you take, the salaries you pocket….all these comes to you with the courtesy of US. Next time you want to show annoyance to US officials, think of all the billions that have poured from US to you, and then comment.
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I do not think that USA Defence Secy has any moral ground to speak about safe havens in Pakistan. Pakistan sacrifices against war on terrorism are greater than America .The Iraqi WMD rhetoric is not a far past history. An unprecedented be lent lie by Bush Administration of Super power of modern time. Peace loving people around the globe are ”very happy’ that UAS govt has brought ‘peace’ in Libya & ‘doing utmost’ for ‘peace n prosperity’ in Syria by sponsoring killings & displacement. You are trying to be Human Rights Champion & Human Killing Machine at the same time sir.Recommend
Indian commenters stop getting schadenfreude about Panetta’s comments. Americans have making a lot of noise about Iran too (along with Israel) but they still dont have the guts to attack them. Why? Because after their shenanigans in Iraq and Afghanistan, it would be a deathwish to go after Pakistan. On the slim chance that even if that happens, the turmoil in Pakistan will spell trouble for India, just like the dumb war on terror in Afghanistan in the last 10 years, ended up destabilising Pakistan.
So please be careful what you wish for!!!
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Dear Panetta,
May i Dare to teach you a simple law of motion? this is a perfect example you can fit into Your Policies.
1st Law of Motion: “An object at rest stays at rest until acted upon by an outside force.”
You are the force who bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
You are the force who killed masses in Vietnam war.
You are the force who messed up Iraq.
You are the force who messing up Afghanistan.
You are the force killing innocent people in FATA and Waziristan in Pakistan.
You have done more harm than help to human relations. and now you are scolding about Pakistan.
With detest,
Atif Baloch
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US is frustrated of losing in Afghanistan & Pakistan victory. It was the Mighty USSR earlier & now the lone super power USA’s & its NATO allies with all their HiTech turn to lose against Pakistan.
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Now, that’s telling them Leo ! Cut the money too while you’re at it. Nothing hits home like a hole in the pocket.
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I do not think that USA Defence Secy has any moral ground to speak about safe haven in Pakistan. Pakistan sacrifices against war on terrorism are greater than America .The Iraqi WMD rhetoric is not a far past history. An unprecedented be lent lie by Bush Administration of Super power of modern time. Peace loving people around the globe are ”very happy’ that UAS govt has brought ‘peace’ in Libya & ‘doing utmost’ for ‘peace n prosperity’ in Syria by sponsoring killings & displacement. You are trying to be Human Rights Champion & Human Killing Machine at the same time Sir.Recommend
Pakistan’s answer: kya kar loge?
Audience: let’s wait and watch, its going to be fun.
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@hassan, how about we show this gratitude by sending our forces to Afghanistan to fight Taliban? better yet let’s hand over our nukes to US too.
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M Usama Kabbir: Lets not be with US!
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@Faisal yaqoob:
USA should share information if there agencies knows about safe heavens.
How about having a look in North Waziristan? Or may be you can try Abottabad.
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The problem is that the US has double standards. The world would be more peaceful if the Americans learn to live within their gegraphical jurisdiction but then………..MIGH IS RIGHT.Recommend
@Aryabhat:
This is where Indians ignorance is exposed to its peak. US/NATO supply lines thru central Asian countries is costing them 3 times then it was thru Pak. Go and google central Asian map, to your surprise, you will find all those countries LAND LOCKED. US ships with all kind of supplies/stuff can only harbored at Karachi port. Transit through air is much lesser in capacity and three times of the price then of sea
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Mr.Panetta
Pakistani nation was also reaching on the peak of its patience regarding policies and behaviour of Washington. There are no safe havens in Pakistan. US efforts to bring peace and stability in Afghanistan remain totally un-success on one pre-text or the other. Instead putting the responsibility of failure to others, US should review its policies and take positive steps with sincerity towards stability of Afghanisan without any loss of men and material.Please be cool and calm and let us to make fruitful efforts for keeping the peace in the whole world.Recommend
@Aryabhat:
If they have signed an agreement with cental asian states, then what is problem in using that route? Pakistan’s only demand is not to use Pakistani lands.Recommend
No logical words……….feeling happy to listen your cry mr. panetta.
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Who is next? Pakistan or Iran to be bombed after Syria. New Middle east is getting practical shape.
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We are also losing patient; we can’t wait any longer for the CSF funds and aid
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Losing patience? lol, You have the lost the damn War :PRecommend
The anger should be directed against those that have armed, trained and provided shelter to militant groups that operate from Pakistan against India and Afganistan and who have reduced Pakistan to a lawless state at war with itself. Panetta is right. Its not just US whose patience is wearing thin.
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no mr panneta no,don’t loose patience until we get ICBMs.then you will never loose your patience for sure.
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@hassan:
rubbish…US has taken back its investment in many folds. Also giving aids does not mean losing ones dignity.Your logic is absurd and full of bias
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Pakistan helped US to defeat USSR through direct support of Mujahideens, US is now thinking that Pakistan is repeating the same to defeat US “the worries are correct”Recommend
@Drone_Strike:
Truth is that US is losing patience with Afghan problem and its inability to solve it. It only looks for a suitable scapegoat for the benefit of its populace and who is better than Pakistan to beat at the moment. But things will change very shortly…let it lose its patience further it will a PATIENT very soon, incurable by any means. Symptoms are there..Rise Of CHINA, iNDIA & RUSSIA has made US a psycho with no returning back.
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US has to stop bombarding the innocent. For those who think Pakistan has been living over the billions thrown by US, dont forget that YOU dont get a tiniest portion of that “billions”. The infrastructure and the roads you see are built thru the handsome chuncks (Tax) of salaries we get. The bread one eats comes thru the tideous work one does in the scorching heat. Majority of Pakistanis dont drive the Mercs and BMWs on these wide roads or work in the skyscrapers. The so called USAID is actually the money thrown towards few to keep their sincerities for US. We dont mind if the AID is cut and that very little percentage of people suffer. Let US be the biggest sufferer of the defeat in Afghanistan…Recommend
when ever Nato killed innocent Afghans white man starts getting at pakistan what a policy what a policy.
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We are in need of friends not foe. We need development not death & destruction.
What is wrong with NATO demands. They are better than Al-Queda and Taliban’s.
True pakistani
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History tells that US accepts defeat by blaming others :)
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Mr. Panetta whole world is losing their patience against US.
Prejudice, fanaticism, extremism, intolerance and cruelty are some of the characteristics deeply ingrained into the minds of US officials and elites. With such hideous traits and black track record, on what basis the US is voicing its concerns about terrorism when it is the biggest terrorist state of the world? The huge network of CIA operatives secretly deployed in Pakistan is stoking flames of terrorism to create anarchic conditions. Pakistan has no moral justification to become an ally of biggest terrorist state and fight its war when it has been confirmed that it is fuelling rather than curbing terrorism to harm Pakistan.
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For all Pakistani’s including myself, its what we deserved threats after threats and also only people of Pakistan got killed and thousands to come, our rights are at stake only because we the people who kept their tongues on silent and never raised hands on our corrupt politicians who are just taking every thing from Pakistan slowly and gradually, first get rid of these idiots and find a solid leader who is itself a model in every department who can lead us then see how US will react to us I am 100% sure they will not even give a single statement like this again so its time for us to get united and stand for our rights before its too late for all of us, we all are muslims and we only pray to one God than whats the logic in dividing our great country into provinces/pieces its just only games of our politicians to get the people fight with each other and it only give profit to these politicians and see who effected from all this only the people of Pakistan, please wake up…….. Insha Allah our country will rock very soon we are a peaceful nation we do have internal which we have to first address them and then have to resolve them first and then we can earn respect from the world.Recommend
I request all my country fellow that we need to stay away from Strategic alliances and always remain impartial .This is because we need to first develop our country . We have to stay out of any war or terrorist groups and keep equal relations with every country in this world . We are in financial crisis ,please
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Uncle Sam has gone crazy after prolong closure of NATO supply. Where is the apology on Salala and other red lines Pakistan have provided??? Agree to it, release money that US owe to Pakistan for the expenses already incurred on war and apologise on Salala and Pakistan should talk…. … They can’t do anything right now, they are broke and can’t afford a single war in next 20 years…. It was Pakistan who is the graveyard of super powers, not Afghanistan….Recommend
Enough dialogue. Need to see some action now.
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Its time for Pakistan to resume NATO supplies asap otherwise we will be screwed. This ego is going to get us in more trouble. $USD will touch new heights and would be around110-125. Why? because USA will stop aiding us and since we are already alive on “BHEEK” then we won’t be able to do anything, consequently Inflation will increase, rupee will be devalued. We need to understand the fact that when IMF and World Bank gives us loan then they get stakes in certain areas of GDP for the repayments. They usually get stakes in electric and fuel sector since these two sectors are cash cows. So what happens then? Rupee gets devalued and that’s not their problem so what they do is they pressurize you to increase the prices to equalize the inflated amount. They just don’t care they want their instalments. In the end “General Public” is further screwed.
You will find 99% of Pakistanis gossiping this that America chor hai, hamara system kharab hai, Light nahi ati, Zaradi chor hai.. but I bet you won’t find single person with the solution.
Anyone with a solution?
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Pakistan was quite moderate before US & Saudi Arab started dumping weapons & petro-dollars to counter Communism through extremism.They found Pakistan under Zia a perfect lunch pad.
When Russians left, every mujahideen should have been de-weaponized & deradicalized.
Instead they were used to gain strategic depth in neighboring countries (Taliban in Afghanistan & insurgents in Kashmir).
When Taliban got stronghold in Afghanistan, they harbor Osama & rest is as you know it.
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what about safe heavens in Afghanistan!!! hypocrisy is at its peak from american end!!
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US Is Loosing the WAR!!!!!!!!
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I think USA will not attack pakistan. They will continue to pressurize Pakistan with words due to nuclear threat from pakistan. However, we should not forget USSR had more nuclear weapons and army than Pakistan. They came down not because of invasion or USA threats. What USA did was to create an internal conflict through economic, ethinic and miscellanious violence in USSR. It broke up into many countries.
Same thing is being done to Pakistan. Ethnic violence in the south commercial capital of Karachi, Energy violence and interruptions throughout the country and especially in Punjab, Drone attacks in the northern khyber pakhtunkhuwa area and balochistan liberation problems.
Pakistan needs a strong leadership within the country to avoid this collision because Pakistan is nearing a nose dive defeat and a disintegration. We should not live in denial. We should become a country like Malaysia, Turkey or Indonesia instead of boasting about nuclear weapons. Lastly, all these puppets of the west should be somehow diplomatically sent out of the country through political pressures. Once they are out, they should not be brought back in again.
If Pakistan has to survive like a cornered tiger and then go out to become a welfare state, it has to act within 1-2 years. After that we are at a no return position.Recommend
It appears, the War on Terror operation by US is slipping into Pakistan as well.
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We had enough of these lying American and their attacks on our soil. We are better off than their so called ‘aid’ out of which 85% goes back in their pockets. We spent so much that it could keep us in debt for a long time!Recommend
the general says ‘we are friendly’
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drone attacks? bomb blasts in pakistan? orion aircrafts destructions? our soldires martyards in the border of afghanistan? our corrupt leaders?……..these all gifts of usa for the innocent people of pakistan.And now you saying that terrorism is spreading pakistan in afghanistan.?????? All world knows that 48 country defeated by innocent afghaniees.now you become mad.you can not win the afghan war all the life.
Infact USA is at the edge of destruction as its economy is becoming end due to war gainst muslims in the world.If pakistan jumps truly in the war of afghanistan then USA does not live in afghanistan more then a month..it is challenge for you pentaRecommend
give respect and take respect,,,, and don’t be like terrorist…. and what about our patience?Recommend
Patience is a virtue mr. Panetta, I read somewhere that Central Asians will allow only none lethal cargo and more intrusive inspections of cargo, is it right. Lets go to our business, selling our high tech produce.
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@ahmer:
Mr. Ahmer who says that the area is full of kidnapper and terrorists, i live nearby the FATA and often goes there, i never feel any fear there, then how could you say “clear it”.Recommend
@hassan:
My dear, US does not giving this aid in free, in turn Pakistan helps US more then the aid US give to us. All of the world’s development depends on the oil supplied by the Muslim countries, and the US superposition is due to the Pakistan help against USSR.Recommend
@John P:
Pakistan gives two hoots for US money – you saw how much sanctions got you in the past – nil. We still got our atomic bombs, sanctions or not.
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We like to know what US have achieved after losing its patience and invasion in Afghanistan?
How many terrorist have they sentenced for punishment even under US laws and how many people(mostly Non Christian and non-Jew) they have killed through bombardments and deone out of 1000people may be 1 was terrorist
The people of USA are great hard working people, I lived in LA for 8-years, Iknow them inside out, they are good human beings like us, but , the policies of the Government is making them look bad.
One day US is going to apologize to the people of Pakistan and Afghanistan for the attrocities they have commited, same as they did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.Recommend
we are losing too sir.
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1979-1989 : Invading Soviet forces defeated (alhumdulillah) by the Mujahideen based in Waziristan and KPK, Pakistan. The Soviets issued threats of dire consequences to the Pakistanis.
2001-2014 : Invading American forces will be defeated (insh’Allah) by the Mujahideen based in Waziristan and KPK, Pakistan. The Americans are issuing threats of dire consequences to the Pakistanis.
HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF!
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@Ginseng:
not a chance in the world they would even think of that.
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Mr Panetta Pakistani people also lose its patients for listing ” do more do more” from your politicians n policy makers.. Pakistani lost so many innocents lives for doing more n more for.. if u think Pakistan is heaven for terrorist than america is consider as god for terrorist because they are providing all weapons to terrorist whether they are in Pakistan or in Afghanistan. so plz stop interfering in our matters.. you Americans are killing innocent peoples in Afghanistan and by throwing drones in pakistan..Recommend
Pakistan was deliberatle got into this war of terror as Pakistan has nothing to do with it. There was civil war in Afghanistan and still it was. THe USA wants to dominate in this region as well to threaten China and Iran. The currupt politions and disctators presentated Pakistan in a plate by getting bribe in the name of AID and bringing to the mercy of the US…..Recommend
It proves one thing….Pakistan is so strong that even US is frustrated for not being able to rein it.Wow…
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@antanu g, As an Indian muslim you can enjoy feeling a muslim country giving pain to US and feel a sense of superiority . But this conflict between US and pakistan should end quickly with either US apologising and giving a better rate for transit or someother quick win for pakistan. Else if both pakistan and US gets into fighting mode, trade and economy in this region will be hit Recommend
US Pakistan relations are like a forced marriage .. and it will end on divorce and it should because both parties are feeling so much stress and the more they live together they will hurt each other .. so wish both parties .. Divorce..
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@Muslim: if you could cleanup u r own house the others will not have to come in and do it. Anyone who want to run away from the LAW, finds shelter in the FATA area, and then one day they emerge from it as mujaheddin. They strap bombs and come blow up mosques and imambarghas, spray blood on innocent ppl in the street or kidnap others loved ones for Ransom.
First stop killing u r own ppl than point the finger to others, if you are a true muslim the 1st thing u must do it respect life, without discrimination, of faith, color or creed.
Islam, my friend does not allow you to kill even a single innocent soul to punish a guilty.
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@yar: Stop believing the ISI propaganda………….no one want to destroy Pakistan, Pakistanis are doing a fantastic job themselves.
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The only reason America has been defeated is because it has NO patience. When making a statement to international audience one must talk with reason and sense, Panetta has shown he has none.
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i believe pakistan has to realise now and immediate to stay with the world community or to leave the poeple for civil anarchy. i also think the repercusion of not cooperating of pakistan govt with america would be to disintegrate the society and then to divide the country and the best part to cooperate with america. in the great interest of country pakistan govt should be lenient to u s a. i smell rat if govt is not going to settle the matter which ofcourse not a dispute.Recommend
Long time ago we have lost our patience. I wish you try to come our on your words if you a really man. So dont waist even a single second. Come OnRecommend
and here is why he is losing patience
http://www.pakistankakhudahafiz.com/2012/03/18/of-isi-why-ahmad-shuja-pasha-will-never-walk-alone/
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So Mr. Panetta if the problem is serious then why dont you address some of Pakistan issues. For over 60 years US could not help Pakistan solve the Kashmir problem. You did nothing but now go and sit in the aggressors lap and listen to him more than the oppressed people of the valley.
You do nothing there and want us to do every thing for you, more than we can afford. We have already sacrificed many lives for you. Be fair Mr. Panetta. Do something for us too. Give a democratic solution to Kashmir. Then see how US is viewed in the region.
These empty threats will only harm the cause. I am not suggesting any of these extra constitutional outfits survive. They must and all will go once you show some seriousness in the region’s peace and stability.
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My God, the delusions of grandeur!
Pakistan is a $150 Billion economy, US is a $14 Trillion economy. To put it another way, US economy is 94 times bigger than Pakistan.
US economy is even triple the economy of China. NATO countries form well more than 60% of the World’s GDP.
US doesn’t have to fire a single bullet to hurt Pakistan. All it needs to do is sanction it, as it has done with Iran. Pakistan neither has the reserves, the economic strength nor a viable benefactor to withstand these sanctions for even 3 months.
Without any sanctions, US has made sure there are zero investment in Pakistan, the reserves are sufficient for few weeks, no one is willing to fund Pakistani infrastructure projects. Even if Pakistan turns towards the IMF, US being the major vote will not approve any loans.
I am glad that US doesn’t have to use any force against Pakistan, that would have meant too many refugees to India. We would have been forced to do ghastly things to stop them from crossing the border.
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@mpq357:
1979-1989 : Mujahideen in Afghanistan won, Afghanistan became a bad land afterwards with no economic or social progress.
2001-2014 : Mujahideen in Pakistan “may” win. Then it will become the lawless bad land like Afghanistan once it’s economy collapse.
You are very right my friend. HISTORY INDEED IS REPEATING
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@Asad:
Well Said Jani
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I’d rather worry about losing the war
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what pakistan and US do to each other is their business. I just request the Pakistanis to read a news item in yesterday's ET titled... "economic condition termed scary " and that too by none other than one of the respected Pakistani businessman turned politician....
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Why cant Pakistan do the right thing here? Dont Pakistanis see that the Taliban and Al Qaeda committed a crime and a sin when they committed 9/11? If Pakistanis were genuine in this war, do you think America would have even hesitated to apologize for the Salala incident. Why did Pakistanis light candles to mourn for the Mumbai attack victims, but fail to prosecute hafez saeed? Why cant they make a gesture by helping India with the legalities. The authorities even tried to hide ajmal kasab’s relatives in his village after the media identified them. Is this honest behavior? If Pakistanis really have a large heart, why cant they initiate reconciliation with their adversaries. If you did that, you would see world opinion about Pakistan change before your very eyes. Today, almost every country has a negative opinion about Pakistan, is this the legacy you want to pass onto your children. Would you rather be a respected member of the world community or would you rather shut yourself out by listening only to your mullahs?
- Indian.
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@GreenG:
Excellent !!!
Loved your write up..I hope Pakistanis read it & make some sense out of it..
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Losers cannot be choosers Mr. Panetta. Time to pack up because if Pakistanis lose their patience you and your new Indians buddies will need a lot of adult diapers.
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wait soon its going to be America Khappay Khappy Khappy
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Green G loved your remarks but unfortunately nobody listening in PK! Hell bent on destroying itself.
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