Banned drinks: No Shezan, Pepsi at Punjab University

Published: February 26, 2012

LAHORE:  “Coca Cola converted to Islam a year or two back apparently, but not the other beverages, well not yet”, says Khalid* laughing. “Shezan is manufactured by Ahmadis so we can neither sell the beverage nor their jams, and Pepsi is still a Jewish drink, so it is banned.”

Khalid*, a canteen salesman at the new campus of Punjab University (PU) is referring to the unofficial ban on select beverages at the university campus by the the Islami Jamiat-e-Talba (IJT) — an ongoing  protest that was formulated after the publishing of controversial Danish caricatures of the Prophet (PBUH) in 2005.

The IJT, the student wing of the Jamat-e-Islami is known to interfere in the management of not just students affairs at Punjab University but the faculty as well. One duty the IJT assumes as its own is to control what is sold, where and to whom. Their control of such matters ensures that even while discussing regulations forced by the IJT on canteens, Khalid was scared of being seen speaking to this scribe or being overheard commenting against the IJT.

For years only “Shandy Cola” was allowed to be sold on campus, a drink that students found “tasteless”. Shezan a local product was also banned by the IJT because the manufacturers were Ahmadis. This ban on beverages was partially lifted in 2008, however, canteen workers, owners and students say beverage distributors pay the IJT for permission to sell specific products.

Javed Sami, Residential Officer Punjab University who is in charge of canteen contracts and what will be sold at the new campus claims “Shezan is not sold because it is not in demand any more. If you look around, many shops do not sell Shezan. That is why it is not available at the campus canteen.”

The IJT cabinet’s new President Rai Haq Nawaz says “We just represent the students, and because Shezan is owned by Ahmadis, the students do not want it on campus and that is why we do not allow it.”

Aside from banning beverages, the IJT also plays the role of moral police at PU. The reason why Muhammad Aslam* had to stop selling shawarmas at his tuck shop was because the IJT told him that “too many male and female students hang out” outside his shop and eating this food item was their excuse. Aslam, who has been running the tuck shop at PU’s new campus for 12 years says he could sense an ultimatum when given one from the IJT.

Given that he had been roughed up and had his shop closed down on more than one occasion, Aslam was forced to stop sale of shawarmas. Aslam claims that the reason he was targeted was because he asked members of the Jamiat cabinet to return Rs 18,000 which they owed him.

“They used the excuse of opposite sexes mingling to shut me up” said Aslam.

Haroon*, a BS student and former IJT member says “I remember we as a group used to go to canteens and eat as much as we wanted to, then the group told the canteen workers that our Nazim would pay, but those payments were never made.”

Haq Nawaz the IJT President refutes this. “We have to control the quality of food items being sold, so sometimes we even close down the canteens which we think are not meeting the standards,” he said.

To this end, a “Food and Price Control Committee” has been set up by the IJT. The price list with the IJT logo, signed by the current chairman of the committee Nauman Zafar, an IJT member and student at Law College is pasted outside every canteen, tuck shop and cafeteria on campus including those in the hostels.

The IJT says this price control committee is formed by their organisation, the students, and canteen workers, but the PU administration denies this.

Sami says “the IJT is lying, they are trained to lie and I say this on authority that the committee is formed by us and our representative heads it.” He adds that “the ban on beverages was lifted by the current VC as well.”

These official and unofficial authorities at the campus add to the woes of the canteen owners, who say that in order to open a canteen, they speak to the Residential Officer and then to the Jamiat as they need the permission of both.

Hanif* who works at a hostel canteen says he goes to the IJT for increasing the rates of food items or cooked dishes.

“We go to the Jamiat cabinet and request them to increase the charges because we go in loss or end up making sub-standard food. Sometimes they listen to us.” He confirms that “the canteen owners have at times paid the IJT to let them sell a particular food item.”

Haq Nawaz rejects this claim. “we are not involved in any kind of business on campus, it is part of our organization’s rules.”

Student opinion

It is not just the ban on select beverages, but also the control that the IJT has over administrative affairs such as canteen food which students are bothered by.

Ahmad* a student of (BS Hons) Bio Tech says “there should not be a ban on products because of a religious perspective, nor should there be a ban on Shezan because it is produced by so and so”.

Muhammad Shoaib wants the freedom to choose what he wants to eat or buy. A recent graduate of Mass Communication, Shoaib says “I don’t like that I am not allowed to buy the brands that I want because there is an organization of students, a group of thugs which does not get along with them (the product distributors) because they do not pay them the extortion money.”

Female students while complaining about the lack of choice at canteens also find the segregated canteens an inconvenience. Sehrish Mehmood says when she goes to the boys only canteen, the workers refuse to sell them anything.

Fatima Mushtaq, a student (BS Honors) in the department of Philosophy says they get caught between the VC administration and the IJT. “If they want a segregated canteen why do we even study in a co-ed institute? Why can’t the university decide who will make such decisions for us, the administration or the IJT.”

*Name has been changed to protect the identity of the individual

Reader Comments (103)

  • PakPower
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:00PM

    IJT should be disbanded and all the fanatics that make it up should be jailed. That is no way to “study” at a university when you end up controlling a portion of it on the basis of religious values.Recommend

  • spaniard
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:01PM

    We faced it…and its islami jamiat e talba…they are doing all stuff themselves…and stoppping other..

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  • Mujahid Shah
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:01PM

    Good decision of the PU canteen owners and IJT. We should love our Holy Prophet Mohammed (PBUH). Why we buy products which gv profit to those who are using the money against the Muslims. We should promote our local products. So, these beverages are not healthy and causing many health problems, especially stomach, teeth decay, etc. I request all the Muslims, especially students to love our beloved religion Islam and follow our the step of the Holy Prophet Mohammed (PBUH). This step also should be taken in all universities of the country. IJT is not only responsible to oppose, but other student organisations should also come forward. I love my Islam, the true religion on earth.

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  • Feb 26, 2012 - 7:09PM

    It’s a vicious propaganda against the islami jamiat talaba.
    If students do not like Shezan then what is the fault of the IJT?
    Why is it not written that the goods are available on cheep rates on canteens due to jamiat?

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  • Zeffos
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:13PM

    Ignorance institutionalized, brought to you by Jamat-e-Islami.

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  • zeesh
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:21PM

    @Mujahid Shah: seriously dude… u want to take pakistan back to the dark age…if u think this is right, that ban everything that is made by the Westerners…Cars, clothing, cosmetics, cell phones, computers…seriously what will remain available here?? only terrorists?Recommend

  • Feb 26, 2012 - 7:23PM

    Mujie Shah

    The good news is, the tone of this article is less overtly, or even covertly fearful, compared to a Newsweek piece I read on the PU five years ago.

    Now the IJT and it’s semi-thuggish ways come across as more of an annoyance than a mob. I am sure these could still be mobilised, but the important thing is to suppress their behaviour, and if any Jamatia steps out of line and uses physical violence, the entirety of Punjab University’s stakeholders, which means faculty, students, administration, neighbourhod police, should come down on these like a ton of bricks.

    The only way to give a lesson is to use a stick with them if they break the law on blackmail, extortion, property damage and assualt.Recommend

  • Javed
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:26PM

    @Mujahid Shah:
    Are beverages the only things made by non-Muslims? Next time someone falls in your family, don’t buy western medications as they are all made by the infidel west or produced under licence by local companies. Sheer hypocrisy!

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  • Salman Shah
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:26PM

    @Mujahid Shah
    Stop using your pc,laptop,mobile right there..didn’t the PROFIT go to the non-muslims ??

    IJT should be banned for good. Recommend

  • Ali
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:29PM

    Stop driving on that road because it was made using US aid.

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  • mikael
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:30PM

    @Mujahid Shah:
    shezzan is local product!Recommend

  • paki
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:33PM

    that is insane. nobody has the right to dictate to me what to drink and what not to drink.. i dont want to give this right to anyone, even my father for that matter. who are they to dictate me?? these obscurantist elements should be eliminated from all educational institutions.

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  • Ehtesham
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:34PM

    Assalam o Alaikum,

    i just wanted to add one thing back in 05 winter i went to PU from Karachi for Study and stayed at Quaid e Azam Hostel No 1 (New Campus) being a student i was very tight in terms of money and unfortunately my mobile phone charger went of order and i went to Barkat Market where the small mobile phone market is i found the nokia charger of 150 Rs and i dnt have enough money then i came back to my room with nothing. next morning i ask one of my friend if he know where i can buy a cheap charger he laughed at me and took me to tuck shop where i bought that charger in just 70 Rs more than half the price at barkat market and to my surprise they are exactly the same….then i came to know the “JAMIAT has a price control Comitte that works for students” secondly the PCO call charges at that time was very anoying for me but in PU it was around 2Rs per unit….in rest of the lahore it was 4 or 5 Rs…
    if i exactly remember i had a breakfast in 10/12 RS with scrambled egg, toasts and a cup of tea… i also remember “Water Melons” and other fruits in the hot weather of lahore in a very reasonable price..

    I always thanks to Jamiat for all that…

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  • Feb 26, 2012 - 7:38PM

    @zeesh: Jamiat is protracting women’s honor in punjab university according to islam.

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  • Umer
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:39PM

    According to reports manufacturers of Shandy Cola are pro-Jamaat Islami. It is a case of financial extortion disguised under religious cloak just as IJT always do ie use the name of religion for their own interests.

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  • Kamal
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:42PM

    @Mujahid Shah: lol… You are joking surely?
    I notice you are using a computer made by Chinese communists or infidels, designed by Christians or atheists, to connect to the Internet, which was developed from DARPAnet, a research project of the crusader zionist US defence establishment

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  • Mazher Arshad
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:43PM

    This is biased reporting. They haven’t shown the interviews of those who want Shezan banned in Punjab University. I have also studied in PU and some of the students who are being interviewed in this video were my class fellows but there were many others who didn’t want Shezan in PU.

    They must have shown the interview of those students as well who are against Shezan.

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  • Feb 26, 2012 - 7:43PM

    @zeesh: Islam is still applicable as past.

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  • YLH
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:43PM

    Ehtesham mian,

    Should we ignore the inhuman and disgustingly fascist tenor of Jamiat simply because you got a few benefits from them? Recommend

  • tauseef
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:48PM

    this is a one side of picture… Please do show other side of picture too.

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  • anonymous observer
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:49PM

    What the IJT people need to start doing now is

    1) Banning all form of clothes on campus because they are made by infidels.Use leaves instead

    2) Stopping students and faculty members from using cars because they are produced by christians.. Use Khotas instead

    3) Stop the usage of mobile phones cuz they are made by atheists..Use your vocal cords instead

    4) Stop using tap water for performing wuzu cuz all our water comes from India..A hindu na paak country.. Use Makkah Cola for ablution and wuzu

    5) Stop breathing the air around them because Ahmadis, shias , Aga Khanis, Hindus, Christians and Bahais contaminate it.. Recommend

  • ht312
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:52PM

    @Mujahid Shah:

    “Why we buy products which gv profit to those who are using the money against the Muslims. We should promote our local products”

    Isn’t shezan a local product? and before the royalty income (what you are calling profits) go back. You pay salaries to 1000′s of people (most probably Muslims employed here), they pay the government taxes, they generate income for other business, many foreign companies have charity programmes in Pakistan. In short 90% of the income generated stays in Pakistan and only 10% goes out. So you want to damage there 10% income by damaging 90% of yours?

    “these beverages are not healthy and causing many health problems, especially stomach, teeth decay”

    So a student body should decide what’s healthy for you? Isn’t that your choice? Then why not just ban every product that’s not good for health including mutton and beef.

    @Awais Aslam Mirza:
    “If students do not like Shezan then what is the fault of the IJT?”

    Then allow the sale, if the students won’t buy it the canteen owners won’t sell it. Simple economics, where there is no demand, there will be no supply. IJT has no authority to decide what the students want to buy. Student bodies are formed to address the issues to the management. Thats it.

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  • Feb 26, 2012 - 7:54PM

    @YLH: can u provide us any single evidence according to your hatred post ? plz dont mention such a youtube link , i am also graphics and video editor so dont send me any link of youtube as evidence, there are no any one has any evidence against IJT , they are all converting there “bughz” in words.

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  • From Herat with Love
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:55PM

    making money out of Religion at PU!Recommend

  • fido
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:56PM

    @ehtishan buddy,

    All those things you mentioned above are good news but banning stuff made particular countries or communities does’nt make sense. We Muslims have not made a single breakthrough in technology and health over the 2-3 centuries even though we held great kingdoms.

    The fact is that we at this forum having this discussion is only because they were built buy Jews & Americans. Most of the Pharmaceutical research is done my Jewish companies. We can’t even assemble a CRT TV or a Suzuki FX engine ourselves forget micro processors. We Muslims had the chances and the resources but we wasted our resources building pointless buildings and now we are dependent on the west.

    The only way to stop dependence on the west is by raising ourselves to the level where we can actually do genuine R&D so that in the next 50 years we might invent something revolutionary.

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  • Umer
    Feb 26, 2012 - 7:57PM

    @zeesh:

    ban everything that is made by the
    Westerners…Cars, clothing, cosmetics,
    cell phones, computers

    No jamaati has yet started manufacturing these good. Once they do then IJT will use the name of prophet to ban other brands from PU so their Jamaati brethren can financially benefit. It’s all about money. Religion is just used as a cover.

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  • Feb 26, 2012 - 8:06PM

    @ht312: well, can u give me single evidence that jamiat has stopped selling of shezan in campus on their behalf, we admit that IJT has no authority to decide what the student want to buy, but as student manager IJT has right to facilitate the students. Today stuff are available at affordable prices.

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  • Visibly Invisible
    Feb 26, 2012 - 8:13PM

    @Ehtesham:
    Did you ever stopped to wonder who was subsidizing the cost of so called discount? Why in Pakistan we are not prepared to pay the real cost of things and let free market dictate. Put yourself in the shoes of the PCO wala, if you were running the business would you charge Rs. 2 per unit after paying the phone company Rs 1 per unit + the rent of the shop + salary of the employee + equipment cost depreciation. The PCO wala needs to run a profit too as this is his sole source of income.

    Pakistanis do need a lesson in economics, may be only then we will realize as a country how pricing works.

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  • Umer
    Feb 26, 2012 - 8:24PM

    @Awais Aslam Mirza:

    there are no any one has any evidence
    against IJT ,

    How about roughing up of Imran Khan to start with? That was a pretty high profile incident broadcast live on TV.

    Away from PU, I am personally witness to violence by IJT at QAU Recommend

  • Feb 26, 2012 - 8:24PM

    dear all, one thing that is quite evident after reading dis article is the ignorance and reluctance that we as a society show when judging the role of islamist organisations in the world around us.we always find it easy to criticise and pass literary judgement on the character of these organisations disregarding their active participation in the betterment and progress of the country. even when the welfare chapters of these organisations such as Al-Khidmat and al-rasheed are discussed the over-sightedness and pessimism of the so called liberal and secular minded scholars and bloggers is readily apparent.contrary to it we overwhelmingly recognise the contributions of much much smaller NGOs just because they have fancy names and are owned by celebrities. such is the level of hypocrisy and duality that most of us impart while our own participation for the cause is questionable!

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  • from India
    Feb 26, 2012 - 8:25PM

    @ Mujahid Shah – Muslims did not invent internet,mobile phones, automobiles, the list is endless. Don’t you dare use them (since they all have harmful effects on the society). Recommend

  • ahmad
    Feb 26, 2012 - 8:28PM

    @Awais Aslam Mirza:
    yes, lot of evidence.If any media person secretly conduct any inquiry from fruit shop owners and granter assure the shopkeeper that jamiat will not close there shops.
    there are round about 54 shops which allow only those things which are approved by jamiat after taking aiant(commision).Recommend

  • wahab
    Feb 26, 2012 - 8:34PM

    what a shame that names of students had to be changed to protect them from Jamiat.. If some one knows actual meaning of Terrorism, this is exactly what it is. Chief minister and governor of Punjab, its time for u to take notice

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  • Raheel
    Feb 26, 2012 - 8:38PM

    Why Punjab university needs such an organization when well Educated, Experienced and Aged professors are there to decide what is good or bad for the students..I was the student of Punjab university and we had a Annual Dinner at the end of the session and these religious came and just spoiled our function just because in a function some girls n boys supposed to perform together on the stage in some pharmacy Historical Drama..They just barged into the Function and broke glasses,plates,decoration pieces and everything that came in their way..They also attacked on girls,boys and even on some Teachers with their batons..Then our Principle called for the Police..now u can well Imagine how Disgusting and Blind they are.This Group is just a Terror Group and nothing..Recommend

  • ht312
    Feb 26, 2012 - 8:41PM

    @Ammar Adnan:
    “disregarding their active participation in the betterment and progress of the country”

    Somehow I must have missed that.

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  • Mujahid Shah
    Feb 26, 2012 - 8:50PM

    @TLW:
    Totally wrong. I am not IJT supporter, but I have witnessed many good work of the organisation. They always support poor students, care orphans, etc. Why Pakistan is facing many problems today. just think for a while………………..

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  • Pollack
    Feb 26, 2012 - 8:56PM

    @PakPower: This country was formed on religious values whatever they are. So why are you surprised that IJT is doing it at the college level? Recommend

  • Ehtesham
    Feb 26, 2012 - 9:22PM

    @Visibly Invisible:

    They are making profits thats y they are running their shops for tens of years, these price checks was very accurate i can bet, the writter or anyone should have research on it and prove it.

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  • usman
    Feb 26, 2012 - 9:26PM

    Banning is wrong. But i never think Shezan is very demanding brand. Shezan is just one of brand sold in Pakistan. There are no. of brands which are commeicially more popular.

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  • Ehtesham
    Feb 26, 2012 - 9:31PM

    @fido: bhai is Jamiat is responsible for all these??? i know neither mullahs nor liberals has done sth good for pakistan, my pt was only about the report if the writter crying on Shezaan & pops she should mention and we all should acknowledge the price control by Jamiat shouldnt we??

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  • ht312
    Feb 26, 2012 - 9:35PM

    Controlling prices does not give them a right to harass and terrorize people. Period.

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  • Rana Amjad
    Feb 26, 2012 - 9:40PM

    No wonder we are the LAUGHING stock of the whole world! It’s crazy & insane.

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  • Feb 26, 2012 - 10:06PM

    Interesting how they’ve successfully fused the Talibanization and apartheid of Pak’s college society with their communist price control (no generous subsidy here!), yet self profiting cartel.
    And anyone who challenges that gets a good thug beat down in the name of religion…yup, progress…

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  • faraz
    Feb 26, 2012 - 10:15PM

    My father is a professor at PU, so I can provide proof to whoever needs one. IJT mainly consists of students from modest background who join for small inducements. Mostly are average students with no prospect of getting a job, so they join IJT and JI as permanent members so they can earn few thousand a month. As someone said earlier, it’s all about use of religion to achieve financial benefits. IJT don’t pay canteen bills, they have forcibly occupied rooms; they terrorize the students and the faculty. No wonder PU is an extremely mediocre institution despite massive funds and long history. The sad part is that IJT is destroying the future of the middle class who cannot afford expensive education. Elites don’t give a damn what happens at public universities; their children study abroad.Recommend

  • Noise
    Feb 26, 2012 - 10:40PM

    The IJT needs to be given a taste of their own medicineRecommend

  • ather
    Feb 26, 2012 - 10:58PM

    shame to hear that now everything will be banned under the name of Islam. Those who don’t obey will be bombed or slaughetered.

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  • whatever
    Feb 26, 2012 - 11:40PM

    For all those supporting this ban should first get naked and run amock because the clothes that you are wearing were made in industries that were invented/designed/constructed by Angraiz. Oh while you are at it give away computers and all things digital, and yes that includes your mobile. Throw away the loud speakers of Masjid, removes tiles, packup all printed religious books (Gutenberg, remember?) and be backward as you were! (A reminder: Muslims in south Asia had not seen ships until Angraiz landed here) Ahmedis are the most repressed minority in this country. The oh-so-holy, pure Muslims bomb Ahmedi mosques, desecrate their graves, usurp their rights, hold public protests against them, don’t consider them Muslims in constitution. We might as well add a 21st ammendment for our hatred against Ahmedis just to formalize our backward thinking [/last-light-sarcasm]Recommend

  • HelloWorld
    Feb 26, 2012 - 11:47PM

    Great, If this story is true, then I’m pretty sure, Pakistani’s are irrational . I’m not blaming IJT for this as there are always certain section of people’s in societies how will foreever works like this, and the people of Pakistan had to show protest against them.

    “You cannot do anything great, if you believe your actual life starts after death” and if you seriously believe in life after death, then kill your self first or keep praying to get killed by Taliban’s and then there you starts your actual life, why you are worrying doing things here.

    In India also we have group like IJT, but at least the educated people know’s the difference between right or wrong, Otherwise we won’t worship Khan’s Actor.

    “We worship people by their deeds not by their religion”. That’s why we say Sachin is our God as he make us happy, make us feel proud, give us unity. Recommend

  • ali
    Feb 27, 2012 - 12:07AM

    I am a student of PU. There are lot of questions about IJT. How they call themselves student organisation after harassing and threatening all students through arms?, after they shot students claiming against there so called Ideology?, after firing at teacher’s house?, after beating teachers?, after taking ‘Bhatta’ in the name of IAANAT?, after going against the fair decisions by administration for STUDENTS?

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  • Sara
    Feb 27, 2012 - 12:27AM

    All these fanatics should be rounded up and shot. There w should be no room for ignorance in this world. Mujahid shah is a typical case of a blatant hypocrite. Such ppl are a cancer for the society. In the past I would buy food products of other companies but now after this idiotic banning I just buy shezan items.

    With such acts being done we deserve to be spit in our faces like we are being done in the west.

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  • BRUISED INDIAN
    Feb 27, 2012 - 12:29AM

    @Mujahid Shah: Yeah? & the laptop or the phone or the internet browser you used to write here was made in Pakistan? Right!! And am Sir Paul McCartney. (FACEPALM)

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  • basil
    Feb 27, 2012 - 12:43AM

    This ban on beverages was partially lifted in 2008, however, canteen workers, owners and students say beverage distributors pay the IJT for permission to sell specific products.

    by ‘permission’ i presume bribes ?

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  • Ameer
    Feb 27, 2012 - 12:50AM

    @Mujahid Shah: Hah.. what a hypocrite.. you’re living in Liverpool and talking like this. And stop defending persecution by using Islam’s name. Do not tarnish the name of my religion through your ignorance.

    Shame on you.

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  • Asim
    Feb 27, 2012 - 12:54AM

    After reading all these full of hatred comments against IJT now I know why PPP and PML are in power and why Zardari is your president. Why PPP won by-elections. Why PPP candidates got 940000 votes in one constituency. Cool .. People of Pakistan lagay raho …

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  • sheraz ali
    Feb 27, 2012 - 1:27AM

    fake stroy, fake name. these bais journalist just make such story in there home for cheap popularity. challenge for u all. come to campus rite now. i will buy u shezaan juicer… dont believe on this cheap journalist. one thing more. i red comments most of the people r not students of P.U/ current or past.. and they r talking in the favor of this fake report… ahahaha. stupid people

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  • Jap
    Feb 27, 2012 - 1:38AM

    Why is the IJT even allowed to operate in an educational institution? They should be banned from the campus. Let the students get what they go there for, an education. They don’t attend to be terrorized by a political party. Where “gundas” rule and the only way you can survive during the term is by going along with them.

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  • Alyan Kiani
    Feb 27, 2012 - 1:41AM

    A very biased one sided article about Punjab Univeristy..Im not in favour off IJT but still we need to recognise the work they do in the university. This includes helpin poor students, paying for rent of students if they are struggling, organsiing transport for female students. etc etc. It was very strange to see the students and the name people above all belong to the Ahmadi community.. Rabia , you really need to bring a little professionalism in to your reporting and not attempt to create hate. although i do not agree with the manfiesto IJT but we can not fault their sincerity to the Punjab university and there across board support for all. PSF, MSF and even the eilte children go to them in the itme of need, we must learn to give credit where credit is due. THis balme game must stop.

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  • Sam
    Feb 27, 2012 - 2:15AM

    @Awais Aslam Mirza: How is Jamiat honoring women? when all the women in the interview don’t care for ridiculous codes of ethics jamitias are imposing on them. Honor what they say! and stop meddling in womens lives using Islam as your ruse. If Khadijah RA could operate her business in a mans world, female students eating at the cafeteria can manage too!

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  • Iftekhar
    Feb 27, 2012 - 2:18AM

    Pakistan will ALWAYS be the laughingstock of the world. What a bunch of hypocrites many of them are. Pakistan is full of smart people with great ideas and open minds. And then the people “in charge” crush any of their advancements. You say you do things in the name is Islam when you have NO CLUE what Islam really is.Recommend

  • Mohammad Azam
    Feb 27, 2012 - 2:21AM

    these islamic buffoons need a lesson or two in world affairs,economics and life in general. Pepsi company like Cokecola is a publicly traded company and is owned by its shareholders. There is no one owner of any of these companies. Pepsi in Pakistan is operated by Pakistanis, just like coke, and employs pakistanis and so on.

    as for the matter of shezab juice… i think people need to be consistent. stop using ak-47s because the commies made it, stop using the american weapons, stop using printing machines which might i add print Qurans as well. i mean basically stop living in this world because everything we use is made by non muslims and non people of the book.

    The problem in Pakistan is that these mullahs have been given too much power, and are basically jaahils.

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  • Head Shot
    Feb 27, 2012 - 2:56AM

    @PakPower:
    Wishes and Desires … keep living with them. Every inch of this country will be washed with some red liquid, sooner or later

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  • junaid
    Feb 27, 2012 - 2:56AM

    Dear Author,
    From the article it is clear that your intention is not to ensure equity and freedom of choice rather direct publicity of commercial brands. What if you have had interviewed some of those people you have tried to traget and bring equilibrium in your poor biased article.
    And what if you bring the authorities attention to issues which can improve the life quality and health of students int he campus i.e Smoking, hygiene (inside hostels and canteens).
    Regards,
    J

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  • Straight Fire
    Feb 27, 2012 - 2:57AM

    @zeesh:
    You can’t decide what is enlightened or dark … We are enough to do that

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  • Ghairat Brigade
    Feb 27, 2012 - 3:18AM

    @Sara:
    Who care what you and your think alike buy … The question is who will let those product sell and who has ultimate ‘Control’ over things … u need to realize that u people are only living in this country and dies in the same … that’s it

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  • PakArmySoldier
    Feb 27, 2012 - 3:44AM

    Why’re these students tolerating this mullahcracy? This should be adjudicated by the courts!

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  • hammad
    Feb 27, 2012 - 4:07AM

    IJT brought guns to Karachi campuses during the Afghan wars using their Jihadi connections. They started the guns in university culture. I am a witness.

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  • Rizwan
    Feb 27, 2012 - 4:10AM

    These people think being a good Muslim means FORCING others to live by their morals. If I want to drink Shezan, that should be my choice. The IJT should try to convince me (non violently) to not drink it, they shouldn’t deny everyone the choice by banning sales.

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  • Hafeez
    Feb 27, 2012 - 4:41AM

    I studied at QAU Islamabd and the students there rooted out IJT. I still think because of no IJT influence the environment at QAU was so refreshing, and no wonder that QAU has been listed as the top university by HEC. Root out IJT from Punjab University and you will see the improvement in educational environment. As far IJT’s stance on banning products produced by non-muslims is concerned, they should just give one example where our Prophet (PBUH) banned any non-muslim in Makka or Medina, or rest of the Arab region from doing business. IJT is simply a band of thugs and use religion as a tool for their own ends. Nefarious ends. Look at their lies: The IJT cabinet’s new President Rai Haq Nawaz says “We just represent the students, and because Shezan is owned by Ahmadis, the students do not want it on campus and that is why we do not allow it.” Will somebody in government ask this guy, as to who are you to ban something, and that how do you represent the student body? God save us from such fanatics

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  • Nasir
    Feb 27, 2012 - 4:51AM

    @Mujahid Shah – it is individuals like you that make us overseas Pakistanis living in the west ashamed to admit we are from Pakistan. You have given the word Jahil its perfect definition

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  • Radial
    Feb 27, 2012 - 5:28AM

    jamaatis should ban ladoo, chumchum and gulab jamun as well since they cause tooth decay. and puri and parathas because they are deep fried and cause high cholesterol. and they should ban cars, telephones, computers, medicines, watches, and ballpoint pens as well, since they are creations of the infidels. PU students should only have takhti and chalk and sit under a tree. after all, if it was good enough for the 7th century arabs, its good enough for PU students too. wait, there were no trees in 7th century arabia, well no trees except date palms. so all other trees on campus must be cut down immediately. and PU should raise fleets of camels…. and rent them at subsidized rates to poor PU students. but no currency notes should be used to rent the camels, since paper currency is a creation of the infidels. only pure copper/silver/gold coins can be used as currency. or sea shells.

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  • pat
    Feb 27, 2012 - 5:33AM

    Why are idiots like this at a University anyway? They belong in a tent awaiting the next caravan or tending the camels.

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  • Hasan
    Feb 27, 2012 - 6:22AM

    @HelloWorld:

    Thank you sweetheart, but when you manage to stop religious fanatics like te BJP, VHP and RSS from being nationwide political powers in your country, then perhaps you can offer lectures elsewhere on how to deal with religious extremism.

    Believe me, a few nutjobs on a university campus are less of a problem than tens of millions of angry Brahmins looking for the next Muslim-majority neighbourhood to torch and loot. If you’re really in the mood to do some good, start cleaning out your own back yard.

    H

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  • Danny
    Feb 27, 2012 - 9:04AM

    Absolutely hilarious. Don’t want anyone drinking thae EVIL Pepsi!!!

    Just ban everything and get it over with.

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  • Radient
    Feb 27, 2012 - 9:40AM

    Jamiat .>…. Great ………………ALLAH will reward you for this, and those fool who are terming you guys as fanatics, will come to know about the truth the day angel of death will arrive and rip their soul out of their body.

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  • Ata
    Feb 27, 2012 - 10:20AM

    Everything written in this article describes a Mafia-like organization that uses religion as a convenient cloak to mask an arrogant small-minded thuggish philosophy. Beware of people who seek to guard Islam in a Muslim country, if they had any guts (or much intellect) they would be trying to make their country united, honest, and strong; not harrass people in the name of religion.

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  • Karachi
    Feb 27, 2012 - 12:01PM

    IJT should banned. These types of activity should not allowed in University premises. PU lift ban from Shezan and PEPSI.

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  • Waqas Farooq
    Feb 27, 2012 - 12:33PM

    One of My Friend studied in London School of Business & Economics, He said that he was a member of Mess & Cantene Committee in his college. This committee regulates prices and quality of all the stuff bieng sold on canteens and tuc shops. What hram if this is so in PU, difference is only this that it has been done by trimmed beared Mullaas or some people (may be opportunists) taking advantage out of this.

    Dear Friends, This is injustice to blame the initiator, we should blame PU Management that they should better regulate it themself or ask students to elect a body for this (Students Union). Any my friends as a fashion we can critisize on Mullaas, but I would appreciate if any one would try to EXPRESS what’s going on in Sindh Agriculture University, Sindh University and Shah Latif University Khairpoor. Believe me the easiest place to buy Sharab, Chars, Dhooda in their surroundings are the canteen of these institutions, where people feared to send their daughters and hostelers are no more considered as shareef people.

    Criticize to Construct.

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  • Tariq Aziz
    Feb 27, 2012 - 12:41PM

    Shabash ” Jamiat ” Shabash, Keep It up

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  • Umer
    Feb 27, 2012 - 3:34PM

    He said that he was a member of Mess &
    Cantene Committee in his college. This
    committee regulates prices and quality
    of all the stuff bieng sold on
    canteens and tuc shops. What hram if
    this is so in PU, difference is only
    this that it has been done by trimmed
    beared Mullaas or some people (may be
    opportunists) taking advantage out of
    this.

    In UK you cannot ban anything on the basis of religious bigotry and for the purpose of religious persecution as is the case in PU. Why is this difference not obvious to you? Try to understand the real issue here instead of jumping to the rescue of the bigoted mindset. Recommend

  • Mujahid
    Feb 27, 2012 - 3:41PM

    @Salman Shah: Wt wrong to Mr. Saloo. I am using Chinese products, beause China is our best friends. So why u are living in a Muslim country, leave it. go abroad and become slave like others. Why u are against IJT. I am not the supporter of any political parties or organization. But if some do for good i wll support. They protect ur sisters in all universities, colleges of the country. I spent 10 years in Hostel, i closley examined the role of IJT. All the top students come from IJT, any other else. Sorry all brothers, don’t blame IJT.

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  • god
    Feb 27, 2012 - 4:58PM

    this will be the result when you want religion over commonsense.

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  • Azam
    Feb 27, 2012 - 5:06PM

    well dear all no one is doing any good to Pakistan. Everyone is having debate easiest thing to do.Kindly, try to take part in the better future of Pakistan
    Pakistan, is a blend of liberal and conservatives. Majority believes in Islamic values and its very much necessary to have segregated areas for privacy. This is a stupid complaint that we want to buy products from the other cafeteria; if not facilitated you can demand from your cafeteria.
    Living in UK I have seen many places in hospitals segregated for the sake of privacy. Schools for boys and girls are separate so they are called wise, disciplined and blah blah and we are blamed to be nostalgic about past and conservatives; wow say whatever suits you.
    The best solution is to ban the products that are from our enemy countries instead of burning Obama’s caricatures and tires and ruining and destructing our own vehicles.Marching and protecting in streets can’t harm anyone; those American soldiers who have done blasphemy against Quran and Muslims once again. We Muslims are making fun of the people who just intended to give their share in pitching voice against an evil act.

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  • safeer ud din
    Feb 27, 2012 - 7:45PM

    dear great muslims it’s my humble request from you that if it is right to stop using shezan and other sach things than why you are using computers, mobiles, air crafts, medicans, wapons, clothes and a lot of other things which are made by jeuish, christians and others,,,,,,,,,

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  • malik saeed
    Feb 27, 2012 - 7:56PM

    its totally propaganda against those people who drink Shezan.
    i always drink shezan it is not harm full

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  • Rehman
    Feb 27, 2012 - 8:22PM

    I suggest all sane students in PU to just have shezan shots (collectively) in front IJT for heck of it.Recommend

  • Sultan Ahmad
    Feb 27, 2012 - 10:26PM

    Some Jamiat members have written that interview of those students should be shown who do not want to drink Shezan.Well! very simple, those who do not want to drink Shezan, they are free to abstain from it. And those who want to drink it, they should be free to drink it. Doing price control in PU does not mean that Jamiat should be allowed to impose its fanaticism on others.

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  • HelloWorld
    Feb 28, 2012 - 12:57AM

    @Hasan, Don’t call me sweetheart, I very well know what you are trying to say, Never show dubious face in public forum.

    I’m not denying your fact’s, but you only know one side of coin. India under BJP leadership went into boom particularly IT and telecom. Every body that time was almost sure that BJP will return to power, but did it happened ? No, People showed that riots between brothers can never make country stable and still they are sitting in opposition in spite of congress playing dirty politics at center. I ask you a question, why you are not pointing congress as non-secular. In 1984, Rajiv Gandhi himself said that all Sikh will be slaughtered and it happened in Delhi with 2000 sikhs. But you guys are obsessed with only Muslims and target only the party which is against Muslims.

    I went to RSS school from class 11th to class 12th. I pride myself saying that they really imparted good education. Education in field of Physics, Chemistry, Maths not in field of Hindu Gods, Not against any Jews or Muslims or Christians. Not even once we had any talk about religion in school.Teachers knows very well that imparting education makes people mature and not ignorant like you, who thinks Jews don’t have any right to live in this world or don’t drink coke made by Ahmedis. And for you kind notice, I got to know about my school that it is RSS funded only when I came to my 2nd Year of ‘College, because their job was not to impart hatred or make publicity stunt but education.

    Yes, there are people who is fanatic in these groups, and will always be there. You need to choose wisely and that’s why we have election. Do you know what is the difference between India and Pakistan. We both have poverty, health problem, infrastructure problem and the list is endless. But we proudly installed Election Commission who can help to choose mass leader, and this was the words from Benazir Bhutto and Pakistan failed.

    Take a look at your education system, do you think it’s balanced ? Trust me, you need to look the video of Najam Sethi, at least he has courage to speak truth. When you will learn what is happening with Muslim’s in Palestine, what your god said, what to follow, how is hindu’s, christians or any other religion are infidels, instead of Science, Maths or Economics how will you grow and why you want to grow, when your entire life is destined only to your god instead of betterment of society.

    I ask you simple Question “Tell me any Pakistani Muslim who won any kind of Nobel Prize” ?

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  • smitty
    Feb 28, 2012 - 2:57AM

    @Mujahid Shah:
    Ever heard of freedom of choice?

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  • Mohammad
    Feb 28, 2012 - 10:48AM

    when Made in Pakistan is not accepted by Pakistanis, don’t accept the world will accept your products.

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  • Tony Singh
    Feb 28, 2012 - 12:23PM

    @Mohammad:
    Sensibly said

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  • Feb 28, 2012 - 3:03PM

    There you go – a one-sided story. Talking about policing – IJT is still the largest force in KU – but none of this sort ever happens – I don’t buy this crap

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  • athar
    Feb 28, 2012 - 4:09PM

    IJT should accept the reality of its black role in threatening students even shopkeepers.the holy purpose for these negative deeds is just to serve Islam…

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  • Ahmed
    Feb 28, 2012 - 4:36PM

    Why these all so sensitive people are silent on Holy Quran burning in Afghanistan????

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  • Umer
    Feb 28, 2012 - 4:55PM

    @Ahmed:

    Why these all so sensitive people are
    silent on Holy Quran burning in
    Afghanistan????

    Before we start worrying about other countries should we not worry about the persecution of Christians and burning of churches and bibles in our country?

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  • Waqas Malik
    Feb 28, 2012 - 8:27PM

    It was shameful act or decision what has been taken by the people who really does not know the true jist of Islam. Infact every man who is a true muslim has not such narrow minded thinking. Such foolish people what are playing politics in the name of Islam. While banning the shezan products Islam become strong then i myself boycott these products firstly. But awful such people are instigating the simple Muslims against the Ahmadi Muslims.

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  • Cromulent
    Feb 28, 2012 - 9:38PM

    Wow. More stupidity in one story that single human can unpack.

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  • gp65
    Feb 28, 2012 - 9:49PM

    @Mazher Arshad: “This is biased reporting. They haven’t shown the interviews of those who want Shezan banned in Punjab University. I have also studied in PU and some of the students who are being interviewed in this video were my class fellows but there were many others who didn’t want Shezan in PU.”

    The people who do not want to drink Shezan should simply not consume it. It is illogical to prevent other people fro buying a product just because you do not want to use it.

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  • Bob
    Feb 29, 2012 - 4:30AM

    They call it Pakistan but they make it Pleedistan.

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  • gp65
    Feb 29, 2012 - 5:13AM

    People were annoyed with Maya Khan’s vigilantism and people power resulted in her getting fired from her job. Why then is it OK for IJT to prevent a boy and girl sitting together in a canteen when the institution itself is co-ed?

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  • from India
    Feb 29, 2012 - 11:13AM

    My late grandfather was from Bangladesh formerly East Pakistan. It was around 1977, he once told my grandmother that Islam will be the cause of disaster for Muslims in Pakistan. He also added if Bangladesh comes under the political influence of India then it will be saved or else they too will face the music. This entire story was told to me by my grandmother yesterday :-)

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  • Mar 3, 2012 - 7:01PM

    at the time of prophet swa there was no shizan so if he didnt stop us to drink it than who you are ?????????????????????????????????????

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  • faizan
    Mar 24, 2012 - 11:23AM

    The question is whether boycott is the way of HOLY PROPHET [P.B.U.H]? So when we look upon the life of the HOLY PROPHET (P.B.U.H), who is to us the ultimate torch bearer and the one to be followed by all of us, in all walks of life.Now we return our question,whether boycott is his holy path.So when we ponder upon his life we never come across an incident when HOLY PROPHET (P.B.U.H) boycotted any one whether they are the idle worshipers of Makka or the Jews of Madina but they were always his opponents who sorted out BOYCOTT their only solution .So its our own choice to follow whose footsteps?

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