Will support US, Nato or Indian intervention: Brahamdagh Bugti

Published: February 22, 2012

Supporting the US congressional bill on Balochistan, Baloch Republican Party’s self-exiled chief Barahmdagh Bugti has welcomed all foreign intervention in the province whether it is the US, Nato or India. PHOTO: FILE

QUETTA: Supporting the US congressional bill on Balochistan, Baloch Republican Party’s self-exiled chief Brahamdagh Bugti has welcomed all foreign intervention in the province whether it is by the US, Nato or India.

“America must intervene in Balochistan and stop the ethnic cleansing of Baloch people,” said Brahamdagh, 30, as reporters listened with rapt attention to his telephonic address on Wednesday at the Quetta Press Club. “We know that foreign countries have their personal interest but we must think of our greater interest.”

A resolution was introduced on February 17 by Congressman Dana Rohrabacher and co-sponsored by two other congressmen in the US House of Representatives, calling upon Pakistan to recognise the Baloch people’s right to self determination. The bill has outraged Pakistan and leaders and lawmakers have called it against the country’s sovereignty and an unwelcome intervention by the US.

“Baloch women, political leaders, activists, students, writers, poets, professors and intellectuals are being subjected to enforced disappearances and undergoing torture for years. Their mutilated bodies turn up daily. Under such circumstances, we will welcome the support of foreign countries,” he said. “We have been accused of getting support from India but the Baloch movement does not have any foreign support. However, we will welcome any support for independence.”

Balochistan, Pakistan’s least developed but largest province by area, has undergone a separatist insurgency since the country’s inception. The insurgency escalated into rampant violence after the 2006 murder of Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti, the grandfather of Brahamdagh Bugti.

“The American resolution and committee formed for Balochistan is not against the sovereignty of Pakistan. Every country has the right to interfere or intervene [in another’s affairs] if there are state-sponsored human rights violations,” he said.

‘They are protecting Punjab’s sovereignty’

Sceptical of mainstream politicians’ and media attention to Balochistan’s affairs, Brahamdagh said the change of heart was rooted in apprehensions over Punjab’s sovereignty. “Pakistani politicians like Nawaz Sharif are now visiting Balochistan and inquiring about the plight of Baloch people. There are discussions and talks on TV channels and print media in recent days about Balochistan. Because they are now worried about the sovereignty of Punjab and [want] to protect Punjab’s interest.”

If they were sincere, he said, they should have raised the issue of enforced disappearances, mutilated bodies of Baloch youth and leaders earlier.

Reiterating his stance that there is violation of human rights in Balochistan by security forces and agencies, Brahamdagh said that Army Chief Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani had said that there was no military operation in the province and must stop denying the truth now.

Brahamdagh pointed out that if the lawmakers believe that the situation in Dera Bugti, Kohlu and adjoining areas is normal, they should allow free access to the region for journalists, international humanitarian organisations and citizens.

‘No negotiations’

When asked about an all-parties conference that Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani had announced over the crisis in Balochistan, Brahamdagh said that Baloch nationalist leaders will not join negotiations. “One the one hand, they are calling an APC while on the other, they are brutally killing Baloch people and throwing their bullet-riddled, mutilated bodies,” he said.

Brahamdagh called on Balochistan Governor Zulfiqar Magsi and Chief Minister Nawab Aslam Raisani to also join the Baloch movement, leaving behind their “temporary” and “personal” interest as they will not achieve anything but humiliation from supporting the Pakistani government. “If they do not want to join the movement, they should resign from office and sit quietly because the Baloch movement is nearing its destination. Efforts are being made to unify the rank of Baloch leaders.”

When asked about the recent killing of his sister and niece in Karachi, Brahamdagh said that such brutalities will not compel him to withdraw or surrender from the struggle.

He also lashed out at the ultra-conservative Difa-e-Pakistan Council, which has announced a public gathering on February 27 in solidarity with the Baloch people. “Where were they when Baloch women, children and youth were being picked up and brutally killed by security forces? There is no influence of Jihadi elements in Balochistan. These religious parties are backed by security agencies,” he said.

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Reader Comments (203)

  • Lady gaga
    Feb 23, 2012 - 1:24AM

    Well the mullahs must be sulking that he chose the great satan rather then them. This alone shows he he is an intelligent man

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  • aka
    Feb 23, 2012 - 1:24AM

    @Bloch:pakisani should let people of balochintan control of there resore not lord bughti.

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  • Muhammad
    Feb 23, 2012 - 1:33AM

    at least i am done with Pakistan and i am not a Baloch. I can safely imagine what must be going through his head.

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  • Saqib
    Feb 23, 2012 - 1:34AM

    Its funny how the indians are going berserk over this statement. This man is sitting in switzerland, a feudal landlord who doesnt care about his own people… Indians… keep on dreaming… Balouchistan is not Kashmir… grow up….

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  • Humanism..
    Feb 23, 2012 - 1:39AM

    After few days and weeks, things would be quieter and people will forget everything … media will search for a new sensation and agencies will keep on doing their job… Nato supply will be open and American will keep quite.. Elites will enjoy their life and poor will be sufferer… Election will take place and similar people will come to power.. They will keep on allocating 50% for the army and democracy will win.. Army in return will keep on protecting baloch people from “foreign hand”….

    Regds,

    A Human Right Activist..

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  • DANISH ALI AHMAD
    Feb 23, 2012 - 1:45AM

    thanks god MQM or altaf hussain is not named here.

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  • Feb 23, 2012 - 2:07AM

    What is Balochistan?
    European countries changed their borders in 1989 and several of them even much later. Looking back at history, we see many marriages among the blue blooded were for the sake of alliances, aiming at becoming an invincible power against the enemy. One could always invent a reason for invading neighbours or places even further away.

    History of Balochistan province, is not radically different from this, the borders and sovereignty have been fluid over the centuries. Kurds and Baloch have been one people who established a state bordering the eastern coast of Van Lake, in Eastern Turkey. This group of Perso-European people have coordinated, cooperated and at times taken to sword against the Semitic people.

    Due to historic reasons, social development did not reach the same standard as Dilli, Lucknow or Lahore. This area has retained its tribal character and several attitudes that go back several centuries. Under the Raj it was found convenient to retain this “serfdom” both in Balochistan and the areas lying North West of Durand Line, alternating between bribes and the use of guns.

    Pakistani governments, in all their wisdom continued the same policy of maintaining political agents as the colonialists. Halfhearted measures were taken to amalgamate Baloch people in the mainstream but without any startling result.

    For the rulers Sardars or feudals who have been ruling the roost in the capital, it has been easier to maintain a working relationship with each other. Neither of them, have cared even a fickle about the real needs or aspirations of the ruled class. Education and uplift of the masses have always been on the back burner.

    Despite the thought controller’s claim people or not enemies of each other. Its the age old method of pitting one group of people against the other which has been practiced. Unless the awareness level of democratic values rises, the ritual of voting every 4-5 years is a silly exercise to maintain sham democracy. .

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  • Truthbetold
    Feb 23, 2012 - 2:25AM

    It is amazing that Pakistanis take such a dire view of Baloch demand for justice and right to self-determination when they don’t hesitate to demand the same for Kashmiris. Isn’t this the height of hypocrisy? Worse, more than 300,000 Baloch have been killed by the Paksitani military since the formation of Pakistan. That is more than seven times the number of total deaths in Kashmir in the same period!

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  • Nilay
    Feb 23, 2012 - 2:34AM

    @blithe:
    Kashmir is an issue between the Indian state and the Kashmiris where Pakistan has forcefully entered and has made it into an international dispute. By the way, it is almost over now. You just cannot get Kashmir. The rest of it is an internal issue of India.

    Balochistan was an internal issue of Pakistan which has recently been internationalized by USA ( and not India ). USA has through history been the greatest aid-provider and supporter of Pakistan in the subcontinent. Even almost all of your military hardware is of US origin.

    So you better get the real bottomline. Kashmiris do not want to join Pakistan. They however appreciate Pakistani help for aazadi. Baloch do not want to be in Pakistan. They seek US, NATO, Indian help for seccession.

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  • Yasser
    Feb 23, 2012 - 2:52AM

    POINTS TO PONDER

    There are 13 Indian consulates in Afghanistan bordering Pakistan intervening inside Balochistan.
    One of my cousin in Pak Army told us they captured a young afghan guy in Balochistan carrying bags full of chopped heads of several persons included martyered Pak Army personals, balouchs, Punjabis and different other casts and was on his way back to Afghanistan. He confessed that he used to get US dollars for each head from these Indian consulates where rates of Pak Army personals were according to their ranks.
    Few Bolach Sardars are involved in Indian-sponsored human rights violations just for the sake of money. They have their personal armies who wear FAKE Pak Army and FC Uniforms and they kept of killing innocnets people there and never wanted any sort of development in Baloch
    istan province.
    Even Late Nawab Akbar Bugti ruled Baluchistan as Governor for 1 year and as Chief Minister for 14 months but he never took any steps to develop Baluchistan…
    Brahamdagh Bugti has met several times with RAW chief in New Delhi as well as was found meeting with Afghan Intelligence’s Safe House along with CIA officials. These proofs, when given to US authorities, resulted in statement of the then US seceretry of state Condaliza Rice as “ISI of Pakistan is getting out of its shoe” and immedate bomb blast in front of Indian Ambessy in Kabul…The balme was put on ISI.
    The famous web site http://www.wikipedia.org once documented clearly that Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti used to get £ 1 million per annum as royalty from Sui fields as well as USD 16,000 per month as security fee of Sui fields (from whom??) but these statements have been removed by the website clearly indicating the internation influence not to show these sardars as selfish traitors what they actually are.
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  • Dave Burnstorm
    Feb 23, 2012 - 3:00AM

    short of funding to run anti state gangs are we??

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  • Ramanujam
    Feb 23, 2012 - 3:04AM

    @abdulazeez
    @Indian Muslim

    Dont blame @Frantic for his misunderstanding…I’ve read through few of their local papers and sites like pakistan patriots,defence.pk …According to them,Tamils,Marathas,Punjabis,Kashmiris are fighting for independence…By 2020,India will be splitted into different countries like EU…

    *The worst part is that most of them believe that this is the truth..*

    It provides me a light hearted moment after when I’m bored reading the doomsday prediction of my countryRecommend

  • Yasser
    Feb 23, 2012 - 3:05AM

    http://www.pegham.com/archive/index.php/t-51660.html

    Amendmen: Its USD 15,000 and not 16,000.

    His main source of income was from commission he extracted from Sui (natural) gas fields amounting estimated £1 million a year and provided security to the fields for estimated £15000 per month.His province despite having enormous mineral riches has remained backward since Pakistan’s independence.
    After an armed struggle started in Balochistan in 2004, Bugti was widely perceived as a leader but went underground in 2005. On August 26, 2006, after several attempts were made on his life in the preceding months,[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NawabAkbarBugti#cite_note-2)

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  • Deb
    Feb 23, 2012 - 3:08AM

    Balochistan belongs to Pakistan,as does Kashmir,India,Japan and Timbuctoo.

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  • Pakistani to all Indians
    Feb 23, 2012 - 3:17AM

    To all Indians here, why you guys keep nosing into Pakistan’s affairs. You guys are obsessed with us. Please go and solve your own problems. The truth is all your states wants independence as well. It is funny how you guys go on about how big and mighty India is, yet you can’t drive us out of your minds. It’s a shame, mostly no Pakistani ever comments on your Newspapers because we don’t want to read what goes around your country.

    Whether this may be our music or newspapers, everywhere there is some Indian gimp going on about what ‘THEY’ think about the situation. We got rid of you years ago as WE DON’T NEED YOUR OPINION.
    .

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  • Cynical
    Feb 23, 2012 - 3:21AM

    These so called leaders (who live in exile) of Balochistan should be stripped of their citizenship.The less said about the US role is better.
    US is playing to the gallery.It’s just another attempt to arm twist Pakistan to have unlimited
    access within it’s territory to fly drones and uninterrupted NATO supplies.

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  • Ramanujam
    Feb 23, 2012 - 3:23AM

    Balochistan is one of the few blunders done by the former Indian PM Jawaharlal Nehru(Wish Vallabhai Patel was the PM that time)….According to wikipedia,I quote

    In 1947, the Khan of Kalat reportedly acceded to the dominion of India. But his accession papers were returned by Jawaharlal Nehru, the Prime Minister of India.[16][17][18] As a result, Kalat joined Pakistan on the agreement that defence, currency, foreign office and finance will be controlled by the federal govt but that the rest the province will control by itself. However, after death of Muhammad Ali Jinnah, formation of one unit changed this situation and it was merged into Pakistan like other areas.

    Unlike Kashmir issue.Balochistan was never part of Pakistan in the first place and Balochs wanted autonomy right from its inception…

    Had Nehru acted wisely in 1947,both Kashmir and Baloch issue would have been solved peacefully and India-Pakistan relation wouldnt be so acrimoniousRecommend

  • enlighten moderate
    Feb 23, 2012 - 3:28AM

    Dana Rohrabacher has sponsored 129 bills since Jan 3, 1989 of which 112 haven’t made it out of committee and 3 were successfully enacted.

    Here is the complete profile of him and his former bills

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400343

    And here is his current standing of bill which all of us are concerned about.

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hc112-104

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  • Ali Tanoli
    Feb 23, 2012 - 3:42AM

    **Ther are many elements behind least devolepments of Balochistan but we cant ignore the big fictor is these socalled Nawabs too and once all the occupiers leaves afghanistan then we gonna see hpw these traiters sitting in izrael get seprated..

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  • Shock Horror
    Feb 23, 2012 - 4:54AM

    @RizwanTKhan:

    As a direct consequence of your warning the whole world is shaking in its boots!

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  • Baloch
    Feb 23, 2012 - 6:24AM

    shame on your view, you do not even know the spellings of ” Baloch”. Go back to school then leave a comment. @Bloch:

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  • MarkH
    Feb 23, 2012 - 6:46AM

    @Ahsan Mlk:
    uh, what are you on exactly? There are no border killings on either border of the US. Most of the border talk has to due with people sneaking in to work. Not cause real problems or crime beyond dodging paperwork. We don’t kill people for that. But that’s just Mexico. Canada… Well, they’re fun to pick on but you probably couldn’t have a better country to border you when it comes to problems appearing. They’re more or less considered completely equal with a couple unique stereotype jokes attached which they probably have their own versions of for people in the US as well. You just can’t truly hate or be suspicious of Canada. They’re harmless.

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  • Pakistani
    Feb 23, 2012 - 6:49AM

    First of all; we should help Balochistan and let them know that they <ARE a part of PAKISTAN and they need not separate. Second, they need to realize that their lack of cooperation, and determination to stick to their feudalistic/violent ways is the main reason so many killings and violence is in their province. They too are so worried about their land and feudalistic system, they refuse to see what is better for Pakistan and themselves, this is actually the problem. No one looks out for Pakistan everyone is too busy being self centred idiots. Not patriotic citizens. Recommend

  • MarkH
    Feb 23, 2012 - 7:12AM

    @Whatever:
    Don’t talk so big. You’re too chaotic to defend against even one sub-par front right now. Try another and you wouldn’t last a week.
    Hypothetically, the US/NATO could destroy most of the countries who talk big in your area in under 2 weeks. They did it to Afghanistan and Iraq. The only thing that took longer was having a mindset of not wanting to abandon them after the fact. It’s no challenge if it’s just a destroy and abandon mindset. Though, luckily for you, they’re not big on the abandoning thing because they know not everyone is bad.

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  • Dr. Inject
    Feb 23, 2012 - 7:49AM

    its funny to see the tosser indians commenting here in favor of bugti. he is one very well known feudal sardar on payroll of CIA/RAW,The 50-60 other sardars are as loyal to Pakistan as anybody else.

    Bugti doesn’t even care about his own tribe. His father exiled 1000 of bugtis to Multan and other areas. Killed hundreds of own men. Cause of constant risk of security. The indians with their 11 consulates in afghanistan doing well in aiding him of money and weapons for terrorist activities.

    These free of job indians here are probably too brainwashed about their own country that simply ignore all that going around in their own backyard and come here lash out at us.

    Take a look at this and perhaps start worrying about your own selves.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=INSStMLUsSg

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  • Ad Baloch
    Feb 23, 2012 - 8:58AM

    @Mir Chakar Mazari:
    Mr Mazari if all leader were here and fighting …. would have been dead by now. Some of them have to stay alive to keeps things rotating. Did not he (B.B) lost his family members? Or you are the other kind of Baloch who wants to enjoy the temporary positions being gifted by pakis. Come on man…. raise your voice and join hands for struggle. What i think these comments can not be from a true Baloch.

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  • well-wisher
    Feb 23, 2012 - 9:25AM

    @Abid P. Khan:
    An apt analysis which gives an insight to the problem. I am glad you have avoided discussing the alleged outside interference which is embedded by the GOP into peoples mind without addressing the real issues as brought out by you. As such India does not gain by destabilsing Pakistan since fall out of the same would be immense from across the border. Manmohan Singh is doing a wonderful job by trying to normalise relations with Pakistan but the progress is slow since many forces in Pakistan are against it due to their self interest rather than the country’s welfare which is indeed a sad state of affairs. However, it is sincerely hoped that Pakistan addresses the genuine grievances of the Balochis and avoid further fragmentation of the country.

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  • ali
    Feb 23, 2012 - 9:27AM

    He is angry, and he is absolutely right!!!! They(balochs) have no gas for their use, but we are burning every drop of it……killing them…….extreme measures (positive ones) should be taken immediately in favor of Baluchistan…….or in next cricket world cup, we may be playing against team Baluchistan as a friendly, brotherly match as Bangladesh!!!

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  • Sanam
    Feb 23, 2012 - 9:44AM

    @Ad Baloch: The same could be said of you. These comments cannot be from a true Baloch. You want freedom from Pakistan only to be enslaved by US and other dominant powers in the region and be used against Iran? There is nothing but more destruction in store for the Baloch nation if we go down this road. But i am with you on resisting abductions and killing of our people by the security forces.

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  • Syed Zulfiqar
    Feb 23, 2012 - 11:26AM

    I think Brahmdagh have gained a lot from Pakistan and wanted to get more for his own personal interest. He is asking help from those who cant be friend of his religion and his civlization, his turban, his beared. But perhaps he has thrown the asset of his turban and wanted to rule and forgot that Alexander’s once ruled, and had to confine to one grave.

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  • Somone True
    Feb 23, 2012 - 11:29AM

    @blithe:
    What about Pakistan Occupied Kashmir if Kashmir is an international disputed area. You call it Azad Kashmir with a prime minister..etc. Why include it as part of your map.. show it separate and not include it

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  • DIFFERENCE
    Feb 23, 2012 - 11:30AM

    @Frantic is talking of tamils

    see sri lanka tamil war they died like insects see youtube.

    tamils killed rajiv gandhi they supoort ltte.

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  • Ahsan Warsi
    Feb 23, 2012 - 11:36AM

    Well, the Indians should understand that they need to be out of Pakistan matters. The Indians claim that they don’t care about Pakistan as they are so ahead of us. Meanwhile, they are always commenting on our forums/news sites. This reminds me of the Tom n Jerry cartoon. Where, Tom was bigger than Jerry but at the end had big concerns for him.

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  • Feb 23, 2012 - 12:05PM

    @Fareed: Why Army should expose why not the Government of Pakistan.?

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  • Feb 23, 2012 - 12:10PM

    Down with this traitor Bugti Long live Pakistan with its Balochistan province as intact and part of Pakistan.

    Long live all Balochi Paks who are majority in the Pak province Balochistan.

    Bugti does’nt mean anything to Balochs and their brothers Pakistanis.Recommend

  • Feb 23, 2012 - 12:17PM

    @Zimmerman: You have again jumped on Kashmir rhetoric and missed the point. I have only said that Balochistan or Kashmir the problem will have to be dealt with by civilian leadership and not Army. Please cool down and think.

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  • Jamaloo
    Feb 23, 2012 - 12:32PM

    He is desperate for power and money at any cost. Balochistan is Pakistan and Pakistan is Balochistan. Recommend

  • Udaya Bose
    Feb 23, 2012 - 12:44PM

    Pakistan being a firm believer in the rights of self-determination of oppressed people must offer to hold a plebiscite and if the Baloch vote for independance Pakistan should be proud and happy that it has upheld its convictions. After all Pakistan is an honourable nation unlike ….. India.

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  • Feb 23, 2012 - 12:54PM

    @Zeta: We Indians never live in fantasies. The fact is that We have been shaken up enough by Pakistan right from 1947 by attacking Kashmir and there on unto Kargil. We never have been left alone to fantasize. That luxury is yours with the help of dreams woven around by all the rulers combined. Now another fantasy is there that we are going to intervene in Balochistan. Please be assured nothing like this is going to happen as we have many serious things to do for our own benefit and growth.

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  • pakistani
    Feb 23, 2012 - 1:12PM

    the amount of money to sardars which was provide to them as roylaty of gas never went down to the people of land, so i think not only government but sardars them self also went wrong

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  • Ram
    Feb 23, 2012 - 2:23PM

    Before you guys accuse Indians for Kashmir, look at what is happening in Baluch. Barahmdagh is fighting for freedom & you guys better understand their aspirations

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  • Geo neigbours
    Feb 23, 2012 - 2:42PM

    Pakistan has a geo-stability problem. In terms of physics, its centre of gravity makes it unstable, as it has a east leaning small head on top(AJK) and a west leaning huge bottom(balochistan). Any shape like that will topple over.
    To bring stability, the top right, and bottom left must be sliced out and the rest of the country will look vertical and peaceful.
    ItsTime, AJK was surrendered back to India, and Balochistan , which is now an international problem, be given independence. It will help pakistans economy be more stable too!

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  • Ram
    Feb 23, 2012 - 4:38PM

    @Pakistani
    No need to thank Indians as we are not involved. It is the USA, your one time friend, that is publicly passing a resolution interfering in your affairs!! You guys don’t seem to make any strong protest. instead you are justifying and finding reasons. Better late than never

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  • Feb 23, 2012 - 5:26PM

    O People Of Pakistan!!!

    We don’t want another Bangladesh. We must stand up to hug our Balochi brothers

    Just word search ‘Balochistan’ on Youtube or Facebook, you’ll find tens of videos saying that Balochis are being opressed. You’ll find Facebook ’causes’ calling for freedom of Balochistan. We must do something to show our support for the Balochi Pakistanis. We must Unite, We don’t want another Bangladesh!

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  • Khalid
    Feb 23, 2012 - 6:53PM

    This govt needs to get a grip on the Balochistan situation. This is a ticking timebomb

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  • Ishrat Salim
    Feb 23, 2012 - 7:16PM

    These Baluch leaders are rich & educated themselves,then why do they keep their fellow poor people as slaves…?.

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  • lida
    Feb 23, 2012 - 8:27PM

    Dont repeat bangladesh mistake…and then blame india for it.

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  • Baloch says
    Feb 23, 2012 - 9:15PM

    @lida- India trying to pull a bangladesh . . .its like trying to put a square peg in a round hole. . .that’s how rediculous it is!! We Baloch love Pakistan and have nothing in common with India.

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  • Abid P. Khan
    Feb 24, 2012 - 12:10AM

    Cool Hand Bugti Jr. Has seen too many Spaghetti Westerns. Can some one please tell him, it is just celluloid.Recommend

  • Pakistani
    Feb 24, 2012 - 11:25AM

    @ RAM: “We are not involved” That is hillarious. I thought we were having a serious discussion. And what are you going to say about the role of 18 indian consulates in Afghanistan. Your comments about that will surely make Umer Sharif laugh too.

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  • Ayaz Munir
    Feb 24, 2012 - 2:54PM

    Shehzan Bugti says he doesnt want separation , Legharis dont want that Jamalis dont want that & many others dont want separation, I do agree that all the tribes say that there are many problems in Balochistan which should end, but all of them just want these problems to end but not a separate country, & I hope Balochistans Problems solve & also there is no Impact of people such as Barahamdagh on Baloch brothers.

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  • Saif
    Feb 27, 2012 - 2:51PM

    @Fahad Karam
    It is not a shotgun. Cool though…. :D

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  • thevar raja
    Feb 27, 2012 - 10:51PM

    @Ahsan Mlk:sir;im a thevar tamil 4m chennai,tamilnadu,India & 1st a proud Indian.Let me b clear sir that ur highly mistaken for tamils ARE NOT BEING KILLED BY THE INDIAN GOVT. We tamils are v. much Indian & love our India,tho im of the opinion that India shud not entangle itself with Balochistan.JAI HIND.

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