Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, who chairs the US House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, has asked that the Baloch be given their right to self-determination. PHOTO: AFP/FILE
WASHINGTON: Nearly a week after he chaired a Congressional hearing on Balochistan, US Congressman Dana Rohrabacher introduced a resolution in the US House of Representatives calling upon Pakistan to recognise the Baloch right to self determination.
The motion, which has been co-sponsored by House Representatives Louie Gohmert and Steve King, highlights Balochistan’s troubled past with the centre after the creation of Pakistan.
According to the text, ‘revolts’ in 1958, 1973 and 2005 “indicate continued popular discontent against Islamabad’s rule, and the plunder of its vast natural wealth while the province remains the poorest in the country.”
It is US policy to “oppose aggression and the violation of human rights inherent in the subjugation of national groups as currently being shown in Iran and Pakistan against the aspirations of the Baloch people,” said the motion.
In a definitive spin to the current tension, the resolution asserts that the people of Balochistan that are “currently divided between Pakistan, Iran, and Afghanistan, have the right to self-determination and to their own sovereign country,” adding that they should be afforded the opportunity to choose their own status among the community of nations.
In a statement from his office, Rohrabacher, who is also the Chair of the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, added, “The Baloch, like other nations of people, have an innate right to self-determination. The political and ethnic discrimination they suffer is tragic and made more so because America is financing and selling arms to their oppressors in Islamabad.”
Meanwhile, the Foreign Office has strongly condemned the resolution terming it as “highly irresponsible and a blatant interference in the domestic issues of the country,” adding that it is a violation of international laws.
Published in The Express Tribune, February 18th, 2012.
Congratulations FC. This is what you wanted? Right?Recommend
Enough is enough, All relations with US must come to an end now
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….we are good here with pakistan ..we know that other agencies are behind the balochistan not our army …and we dislike sardar system in balochistan ..no one can break us from pakistan ..PAKISTAN ZINDABAD…Recommend
The United States should first address the discontent amongst its minorities and its African American population before worring about the Balochi folk…
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USA should free california…..LOLRecommend
Thanks to US Congressman for Doing this because Maybe This Move
can be a wake up call for our Government and Media.
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A pathetic attempt to dis-integrate Pakistan. No Pakistani can support it. Earlier they were doing it through hidden channels, now they are bold enough to say it out loud. Thanks to our sincere govt.
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Now America forcing all Pakistanis to join difa-e-Pakistan!!
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US have no right to interfere in other countries internal matters, world still remembers the massacres of Iraq Afghanistan and Vietnam, on what humanitarian grounds u r making this demand ?? Pakistan and US alliance is unnatural, its the enemy spitting venom at us, all relations with US must be ended
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US have no right to interfere in other countries internal matters, world still remembers the massacres of Iraq Afghanistan and Vietnam, on what humanitarian grounds u r making this demand ?? Pakistan and US alliance is unnatural, its the enemy spitting venom at us, all relations with US must be endedRecommend
If Pakistani establishment would not listen and shape up, the world would. No nation can be denied of their rights for ever. There should be an urgent and open dialogue on this subject. It cannot be denied or swept under the rug.
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Pakistan did not learn from East Pakistan episode. We are heading the same direction again.
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the 50 states of USA should also we separted .
chicago , california should be separted from usa.
take care of USA leave Pakistan alone.
look after urself first and safeguard ur troops in afghanistan dont ask us to look after ur so clled coldiers in afg.
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Oh boy! Forget memo gate, NRO, or NATO supply. This will keep PAK irate for awhile.
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All this fuss is being created for Gawadar Port, Wake up Pakistan before its too late
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Lets see how our so-called leaders respond
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And this happened the same time when Ahmedinejad visited Pakistan.
The “coincidence” is killing me.
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Dear Congressman,
Are you blind?? why don’t you bring such a resolution for self-determination of Palestine, Kurds (Turkey), Bahrain Shias, bla bla where US made weapons are used to suppress the people (sorry murdered innocent people).
Regards
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It’s time that we understand two things:
1.USA can nver be your friend.
2.We should become serious in resolving Balochistan issue.
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If Pakistan is giving the right of selfdetermination to the Balochis then we in India should also seriously think about giving it to the Kashmiri Muslims.
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This guy really understands the problem.
If the Pakistanis disagree with him, let his hold a plebiscite or a referendum to prove Balochis are with Pakistan.
I am sure Balochis will vote for Pakistan. :P
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Pakistan is between a rock and a hard place. While we demand that Kashmiris be given the right to decide their allegiance, it will become difficult if the Baluchs start demanding similar right.
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I think Pakistani Govt. should have a resolution calling for an independent California…lets see how that goes..
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This is clear violation of sovereignty of Pakistan! They should have talked about Indian held Kashmir instead of Balochistan. I believe Pakistan should immediately cut diplomatic ties with the US and stop all ground and air support for US troops in Afghanistan for saying and acting so irresponsibly against Pakistan.
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Dana Rohrabacher has gone mad in getting Dr. Shakeel Afridi released who helped CIA to pinpoint where OBL was hiding.
US must understand one thing very clearly as I am talking in plain words.
If you touch Baluchistan once, the entire Pakistani nation is going to teach a lesson to US that US would have not learned neither in Afghanistan, nor in Iraq.
You people do not know what Pakistanis are.
We are ready to die at any moment to save our motherland.
I am not talking individually, but I am talking on behalf of the whole nation.
If you want to try it, try it once and you will come to know what Pakistanis are,
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Well i must say that if our Parliament had taken some solid steps to resolve the Balochistan issue on time, no such resolution would have come forward. The US should not interfere in our internal affairs but this doesn’t mean we should shut down our eyes on our own people..Give the Balochis their right..
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My father (a Pakistani diplomat) and I were discussing a couple of months back, how the US should not have interfered in Libya’s affair. He was arguing that US should not have interfered politically and militarily in Libya, as the conflict was internal. He said the US involvement in Libya sent a bad precedent. I disagreed with him totally, my argument was that the US saved hundreds of lives from the hands of Qaddafi. At that time, before US paid any attention to the Balochistan affair, he said that if US thinks the Pakistani state is suppressing the Baloch people, they will want to interfere politically and even militarily in Balochistan (like in Libya), and shout for their independence. Where will Pakistan stand?
Now I realize how true his arguments were, even though Libya and Pakistan are two totally different stories.
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what else can one expect from another right-wing republican nut who demanded iraq pay back the money US spent on invading their country, voted against a bill supporting democratic institutions in Pakistan in June 2009 and told members of the house who booed him when he defended torture of detainees that ‘i hope its your family members that die’. the ‘honorable’ rohrabacher also denies that global warming exists and in the 80s this hypocrite met with Osama bin laden in afghanistan and called him one of the ‘greatest freedom fighters’.
Pakistan should respond to his track record for milito-fascist lunacy by extending him an invitation to all future Difa-e-Pakistan rallies.
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Quite Clear, They Wanna Balkanized Us. That’s All.
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Being a Baloch myself and also knowing fairly well how the baloch people have been exploited and treated by the central government in Pakistan, the struggle of the balochs for their independence is quite understandable. There is nothing new about the story here since it is a repitition of what happened nearly forty years ago in East Pakistan. However, American concern is nothing but a blatant disrespect for international norms and needs to be condemned in every possible manner. Concern for the political and ethnic discrimination shown by a country that is involved in systematic eradication of ethnic groups in Iraq and Afghanistan and other parts of the world, a country that has been involved in the worst crimes against humanity over the past many decades is nothing but ironical. America has no business in our internal affairs and should just shut the f&^* up.
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You peoples are just suckers……….. losers sham sham on America
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He should also table a resolution for right of self determination of Shia majority people in Bahrain who are being ruled by minority. But he would not do that. Because USA has military bases there and moreover, Iran supports these people. In recent months, more Shias have been killed in Balochistan but no concern for them. Americans have double standards.
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In 1962, I would have said to Pakistan army/isi.
Forget Kashmir, save East Pakistan.
In 2012 , 50 years later, the message is
Forget Kashmir, save Baluchistan
or else
who knows what will happen in anathor 50 years !
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wud china allow gawadar to be an american naval base? in case of aggression wud pakistan mind using nukes for its defense? balochi’s should be taken well and cared; but no 3rd party should be involoved. Balochis are brothers to us but making an issue as a weakness is not acceptable and never will be for country’s sake.
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now false,fake baloch will start to comment here ..i want to clear one thing that majority of baloch in balochistan cannot speak in english except those balochs who live in queeta (Patriot of pakistan and other parts of provinces ) so please indian people directlly or indirectly should not fool to others…we actually know whose agencies are behind balochistanRecommend
US should mind its own business and stop policing the world.
Their agenda of dismemberment of Pakistan is no more secret.
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this is part of american global agenda, motives and goals to create independent Baluchistan, America actually wants to destroy Pakistan, read an interesting and though provoking article about american agendas against Pakistan
http://707monty.blogspot.com/2011/12/israel-will-not-attack-at-iran-until.html
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We are too late … we have almost lost Baluchistan.. Thanks to PPP for being involved in one more breakup of Country.
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now these idots will tell us what to do, at last they showed their colours which were expected by most of the pakistanies. Actually they have tabled the strategic plan to divide pak,afghan and iran like they did with iraq by dividing kurdistan. but they should remember thats we are not afghans we paid millions of lives to achieve our PAK WATAN. its also a final bell for our policy makers to redefine their policies for America and for balochistan as well
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Open the NATO supply lines or see what hits you, (that’s the message)
Pakistan should reply with such unprecedented force that the baloch problem is solved for good and all the fake sardars rest in peace
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Its internal issue of Pakistan.Only few groups are raising issue in balochistan which are unloyal to the country and staying in foreign country.
Ameriki congress should pass the resolution for Kashmires People which is occupied by Indian armed forces over the last 64years.
We really condemn the un necessary and interven into country legislation and conpiracy against people of Pakistan.
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Wake Up Pakistan!!
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“rich in natural resources but has been subjugated and exploited by Punjabi and Pashtun elites in Islamabad, leaving Baluchistan the country’s poorest province.”
In Other words Another words they are saying this is one more IRAQ in Sights lets go for it ….Recommend
I dont understand American foreign policy….
It is run by complete fools…..
Is it their not enough insecurity already in the minds and hearts of Pakistanis regarding America…
And as if there is not enough tensions in south east asia between the existing nations that they want to throw another country in the mix….
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Looks like this character needs some media attention. Who is he republican most probably Recommend
I just lost the last respect that i had for our politics and establishment. After they’re done with Syria, Balochistan is next.
How could something like this happen?? How could statesmen allow this to happen?? No strategy, no lobbying? Or was Sherry Rehman a bit too harsh to them?? She was brave enough. She did her part. What did our politics do??
It saddens me – but – it’s just pathetic to be a pakistani right now. We just did not learn anything from history.
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The U.S is planning to open yet another front in Pakistan, the issue at hand is the initiation of a process which will have further unfolds in the days to come. This move serves as a tripod. It is a message for Pakistan, which is currently trying to amend its foreign policy towards U.S, Iran in context to its rising tensions with U.S and Israel over its nuclear program, Baloch liberation would severely affect it, and finally to Afghanistan where Karzai seems unhappy with U.S over its negotiations with Taliban without Karzai on board.
Pakistan must address the Baloch issue without any further procrastination. The U.S resolution will give more leverage to India, who is already engaged in the process of destabilizing and arming the rebels in the richest resourceful province of the country.
The Baloch people here too must realize the grieve impacts of their actions, if GOD forbidden the province is liberated from Pakistan, it will lose all its cherished resources to foreigners.
The government must respond to this resolution very strongly, We will not tolerate any foreign encroachment in our domestic affairs.
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Its funny to hear when i see US talking about human rights!!! Look at yourself what you are doing in guantanamo bay, in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Pakistan,,, killing thousands of innocent lives!! i ask where are your human rights??? and btw dear US NO ONE can deny about your political involvement in destabilizing Baluchistan!! You have no right to interfere in our country matters! We have already suffered so much because of you!!
Thank you so much!!!
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this is part of american global agenda, motives and goals to create independent Baluchistan, America actually wants to destroy Pakistan, read an interesting and though provoking article about american agendas against Pakistan http://707monty.blogspot.com/2011/12/israel-will-not-attack-at-iran-until.html
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This is a clear violation of international norms of diplomacy.Pakistan must condemn this act of republican senetors who,in my opinion on the pay role of Indians.
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Its very shameful for us that a outsider is involving in over interior matters. I Think it happens due to Punjabis Repulsive Behavior with Baloch.
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US should free Miami… It is rich with resources and people don’t have any money to dress themselves up… so please, end this exploitation of the poor.
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oh god, americans really are much more intelligent than actually we think !!!!!
may be their present younger generation has turned into potato couch, but their fathers(current politicians) really have the ability to befool the entire world.
all this while everybody was thinking that they are after pakistani balochistan, they had larger ideas in mind: they want to dismember not only pakistan but have designs set on irani balochistan as well. so they had blueprint for attack on iran prepared since long. it was just a matter of right time. and when time arrived, those 26 soldiers were the first pawns to be removed from the field.
from this moment onwards i endorse zaid hamid’s views, of a global conspiracy to dismember pakistan. and so, conspiracy theories were not only figment of imagination of some fertile mind in paksitan, but they do have some weight. i may sound scary but what else this is.
well, GREAT GAME of 21st century is here, and sadly this time it’s pakistan which is at the receiving end.
SO this is why so many trips to china, and even to russia, and even attempts to improve relations with india
that means pak leadership anticapated this and are leaving no stone unturned.
i would say pakistanis do have some sensible civilain leadership afterall.
surely tough times ahead.
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This congressman is an idiot. He was one of the few congressmen to actually support the Taliban when they came to power. He went to Afghanistan in the 90’s and said the Taliban were a stable force. He is a rightwing politician and these bills are just for publicity. They won’t go anywhere in Congress or in the Senate. He knows that but he can point to these bills later on showing that he was a “maverick”. Look up his profile online. He also claims that global warming is not caused by humans, so you can tell what his intelligence level is as well.
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“Truth is such a rare thing, it is delightful to tell it.” ….Balouchistan need baby attention!!!
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The Government of Pakistan should see the real face of US.
US has a double standard.
US Ambassador should be ask by the Foreign Office to leave Pakistan in 24 hours and at the same time should recall Pakistani Ambassador Sherry Rehman from US without any further delay.
Government of Pakistan should break all sort of relations including diplomatic relations with US.
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I guess this was an answer to us and Iran and it happened right on the day when Iranian president was here. No coincidence here. Nice to see US coming out in the open.Recommend
They are like that snake who was frozen in ice and brought to home by a kind-hearted man and when the snake got normal the man gave him milk to drink. After drinking milk that snake bight’s that man’s son and got killed by the man.
Allah will save Pakistan till the world remain. Inshallah
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Typical American attitude. Always poking their noses where they don’t belong.
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All I can say after reading this news report is.. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
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Guys why do i feel like joining Diafa-e-Pakistan (even though they won’t let me be a part of it as i am a shia) :p
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Us should not interfere in Pakistan’s internal matters, US needs to understand they have to work with Pakistan and that the only way to sort out thingsRecommend
Plz continue the khidmat of Amrika..gillani and Kiyani..allow more drones…the dismemberment plan has started finally in 2012…per the prediction.
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where are the liberals now…look what your daddy USA is doing..lol
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Dirty AMERICANs,
Pakistan should pass a resolution along with other allies for giving the right of self determination to AMERICAN INDIANS who are the real owners of whole of AMERICAN.
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Mr. Rohrabacher
I am a Costa Mesa resident and I recently called your orange county office and spoke to a young lady who was cordial. The reason for my call was an inquiry regarding your participation with Grover Norquist and his unconstitutional tax pledge.
I asked the young lady if you had signed it. She answered “not to my knowledge.” She assured me that you do not sign pledges. Once I hung up the phone I went to American’s for Tax Reforms web page to check on her assertion and there was your name as a signer to his pledge.
Can you please address why you have pledged your loyalty to Grover Norquist over your sworn oath to represent the people in your district?
I have spoken to all my friends and neighbors in your district. And like me, I was never asked what I think about this pledge and if you should sign it on my behalf. We are your bosses not the lobbyists for Big Money.
Please inform your staff that your ARE a signer to the Norquist’s pledge. So they can give correct information to your constituents.
Better yet, remove your name from the pledge and apologize to us.
Tim Rose
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@Malik hamza:
Just FYI, Chicago is a city in state of Illinois.If you know anybody from there, ask them about Delhi Darbar restaurant. It is one my favorite restaurant for last 20 years.Recommend
The real point is this “Balochistan is “rich in natural resources””
That is the driver of this resolution. Also, Dirty AMERICANs greed has no end even after losing thousands of lives and killing millions of innocent civilians for their natural resource greed.
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@jerseybb: You wrote “Pakistan should reply with such unprecedented force that the baloch problem is solved for good”
Pakistan has responded in East Pakistan with the fury you are dreaming in Balochistan now. What happened then? We left 93 thousand military uniforms there for jail clothing. Some people never learn. Why can’t we be nice and fair to our Baloch brothers and sisters? Military force is a problem not solution.
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that’s why our media went crazy for the last few days! they’re helping us! the whole media was talking on missing persons blochistan etc.. Allah save our nation!
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@Scientist: and should I include, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto who simply fail to understand when Mujeeb won with big majority – He should have let Mujeeb became the PM of Pakistan.
My friend, history written in recent days are more twisted than ever. People who were there and still alive tell about the story of truth of what went wrong and the causes for it.
one suggestion, Trust people but do verify their claim before blindly following them :)
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A quick look at Mr Rohrabacher’s voting records speaks volumes for his loyalties and intellect (or lack thereof!)
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lets see what our impotent leaders gonna reply to this
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Howcome I’ve never seen such bill presented for the people of Kashmir? The Kashmiris for sure are suffering in real but because nobody has the guts to put India in it’s place therefore nothing is ever said. Palestine is another prime example.
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Blackmailing for NATO routes?
We are Pakistan and Pakistanis, go play your nonsense somewhere else
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US is showing their original face.They took Pakistan for an ride in 1971 on Bangladesh and now on Balochistan.Its an wake up call
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They do not see their own brutality in Afghanistan and in Iraq for more than 10 years. And what about Palastine,Kashmir. america simply want to hunt Iran and Pakistan with one ARROW to clear the ROAD for India. Pakistan must SLAP FIRMLY before they cut us into pieces. They have only one policy– divide & rule.
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@Salahuddin:
Is FC killing people and Iranian Passdaaraan-a-Inqalaab in Seestan(Irani Baluchistan) and in Afghanistan. Come on man, FC is responsible upto certain extent. But all is not result of FC. And what is US is doing to Afghanistan and Iran.????? Stay Blessed and United. May Allah Bless Us. Aameen
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It is just US game when they felt the winter is going and the supply lines are still closed so they made a drama against Pakistan.
Balochistan is an integral part of Pakistan and no US can break it.If it does then it will be the 3rd world war and Pakistan will be the more big country geographically after all this…
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:…have the right to self-determination and to their own sovereign country and they should be afforded the opportunity to choose their own status among the community of nations, living in peace and harmony, without external coercion.”
I wonder if they feel the same way about kashmir
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This is a wake up call for Pakistani nation…All Baloch are our brothers, muslims and Pakistanis,…US can not divide us..US should try to raise voice for Kashmir, Palestine…..
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he’s an idiot of the first order has attacked Pashtuns along with Punjabis shows his level of insanity and ignorance. Despite this black mailing they won;t get Dr. Afridi!
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After fighting American war in Afghanistan which resulted in loosing thousand and thousand Pakistani Army personnel lives, hundred and thousand bomb blast across Pakistan – thats what Americans are rewarding Pakistani nation now…..
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Finally, the snake spits venom out,America can naver be a faithful friend to any one,accept Israel,so it time for pak nation to do the same, as Iranian did in 1979, just kick them out, and keep freinds like china, Iran, Saudi Arab, turkey, who are real friend of Pakistan.America is double face snake, a war criminal country, the should talk about Palestine , and Kashmiri rights,
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It is US self made drama
shame they do not like to see on the Kashmir, Palistine and dozens other issues.
Balochistan is an integral part of Pakistan.
When the American noticed the supply lines are still closed and the winter is going then they started to awake again their new devilish thoughts to impose on poor countries.
If they do some wrong in Balochistan then it will be the 3rd world war and Pakistan will be the more bigger country geographically after all this……
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@Mirza: I really appreciate you for your comments. However, I am unsure why you think Pakistani establishment will behave in a civilized manner and will happily grant the rights to people of Baluchistan. In fact, they have been ruling over smaller provinces like colonial masters since day one. They have not leant a single lesson from the blunders that they made in the past. Rather, they are still insisting on their supremacy over other ethnic groups. As a matter of fact, they never respected the rights of people of Pakistan, particularly people of smaller provinces. Keeping in view the current circumstances, it seems they are not in a mood to choose the rational path to a respectable solution to critical issues like Baluchistan issue. They are accustomed to only one language, which is language of power. They respect it and understand it.
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Pakistan is a federation. Baluchistan is one of the federal unit,having vast land and unlimited natural resources. The inhabitants are Pukhtun and Baluch. The people are extremely poor having almost no acess to clean drinking water and education. Typical Pakistani style corrupt democratic provincial government is there. The real Pukhtun and Baluch leaders didn’t take part in 2008 general elections. In the present provincial assembly every member is a minister and there is no opposition member. It is really a joke and shame on democracy. The present chief minister is like a joker,once he said in an interview that their is no difference in a real or forged educational degree and once he fell down while delivering a speech,stated to be drunk. Pakistani ruling elite never bothered what was going in Baluchistan.Quetta is the capital city of Baluchistan,far away from the Pakistan’capital Islamabad.Maari,Mengal and Bugtis are the big Baluch tribes and Achakzai is a Pukhtun tribe,besides thiese their are so many other tribes. Chief of Bugtis tribe Akbar Khan Bugtis was killed by Gen.Musharaf,before killing him he warned Nawab Akbar khan that he would be killed not knowing what killed him and exactly he was killed in such a way in a cave,no member of his family was allowed to attend his funeral and could confirm that the dead body in the coffin was Nawab Bugti corpse.Mr Bugti was a known pro federation and not a separatist ,later on he became a nationalist.He remained a Governor,chief minister and a federal minister.Khair Buksh Maari son and Ataullah Mengal son in law were also killed in misterious circumstances.Habib jailb Baluch was recently killed,It was also reported that almost 600 target killing took place and almost one hundred thousand settlers have been migrated from Baluchistan..The issue of missing persons is also a very serious issue
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Congressman Rohrabacher is living in the wrong time in history. He is working to give the US Congress a bad name and black eye. Balochistan is Pakistan and Pakistan is Balochistan. Congressman doesn’t realize that the social media empowered 180 million Pakistanis are now part of an awakening giant that cannot be used or abused. Just read all the comments quickly posted at the end of the web article
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Myabe the Army will behave now given their masters have shown their concern…
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The sovereignty of Balochistan has always been Pakistan’s Achilles heel — you take their wealth and treat them like 3’rd Class citizens. I suspect the USA has gotten tired of being prodded by Pakistan and has decided to do some prodding of it’s own — hope you have thick skin because your going to need it.
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Conspiracy created jointly by CIA, RAW, MI5, Mossad and, of course, ISI.
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@Diggvijay Singh:
Dont say ‘ we in India.’ You are NOT an Indian and forget Kashmir. And we know everything about what Musharraf did in Balochistan and the death of Nawab Bugti and his locked coffin. Don’t mess up with us!!
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Only few separatist terrorist leaders on the payroll of RAW, CIA are ranting against the State of Pakistan.
I bet every single cent that General Baloch population is patriotic and would defend Pakistan in all situations.
I agree there has been neglect on the part of Government in Balochistan but small but similar is the situation of rest of Pakistanis. People in Punjab are frustrated by the central government as much as any other part of Pakistan
Now wait for sunshine, and these insecure indian trolls will pop up posing as balochis and wanting Independence. sick people
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Rohrabacher shows how ignorant he is about Baluchistan. He said, “The Baluchi, like other nations of people…” Congressman, they are called Baluch not Baluchi. Baluchi is the language they speak, you clueless American.
Saleem
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Is a strong resolution forthcoming regarding the plight of Palestinians? I doubt it. What about Kashmiris? Doubt it again. We can’t do much but pray an honest government who cares about its people comes to power. Balochistan doesn’t need a development package it needs a systemic overhaul. The system within Balochistan, interior sindh, KP, and parts of Punjab is akin to slavery and that needs to abolished. WE need to put our house in order so psychos like this man aren’t given pub.
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Palestine anyone?
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US agenda has never been a secret!!!
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Being local of the Baluchistan, I must like to put emphasis on the reality we are facing. Few tribe leaders are enjoying million of dollars and are sabotaging the law and order situation. These Morons have trained millitant terrorists wearing fake Pakistan Army and FC uniform and are creating havoc by target killing pro-Pakistani nationals. I must request Pak ISI to intervene and execute those outfits.Recommend
I guess the Americans are blind and they don’t see the plight of Palestinians, whom they are suppressing in their own homeland for the last 60 years.
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The message to Pakistan is very clear:
Don’t play double game in Afghanistan
Don’t give Chinese access to Gawadar port
Don’t go ahead with Iran-Pakistan gas pipe line
Don’t trade nuclear secrets to rogue states for money
Reign in on ISI, Army and your LeT, JeM type of strategic assets
If you do so, be ready to pay the penalties. If you try to play in a league that is outside your capability, this is what happens. If you monkey around with the US, this is what will happens.
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Pakistan is always harping about how India should allow Kashmir to vote on independence — now the shoes on the other foot and it would appear your not to pleased. Maybe both countries can give these people the right to choose? A peaceful Balochistan is the key to prosperity in the region — I suspect India, Afghanistan, Iran and even China would prefer to have Balochistan independent and peaceful rather than part of a Pakistan stuck in perpetual turmoil.
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Well the fact that there are no human rights in balouchistan is wrong…because there are no human rights in Pakistan anywhere….the poor, innocent and the honest are sufferers in this country and the robbers loot us. A leader like Asif Zardari replicates the people of this country in the best way possible. A nation without values, integrity & backbone….what right do we have to colonialise balouchistan…free them, no decent pakistani wants to live in this country….if the pakistanis themselves dont want to live in this country why force balouchis to be part of it.
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True face of America here! We have been in bed with them for sooo long as soon as we want out they taking our Balochistan! Guys i hope we can save our nation otherwise we going to be broken faster than a cricket bat! We need to be proud to be Pakistani’s not punjabi sindhi balochi in pakistan we rule with division we dont !
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Did anybody here see Hamid Mir’s show where he discussed Balochistan? There are things happening there that is hard to believe. It looks like a repeat of 1971. Unless the security agencies start taking responsibility and stop the violence, this region will be lost to Pakistan forever.
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Pakistan’s senate should pass a resolution demanding the independence of Hawaii, California and all other non-white land occupied by the USA by force.
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This is absolutely the right time for India to start pumping millions of dollars into Balochistan.
Baloch people should be able to buy weapons and further their cause.
Pakistan need to understand two things –
1) Suppression won’t work in genuine cases.
2) Religion is never the reason to unite people or disintegrate people.
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Have they ever tabled a similar resolution for Kashmir? Never.
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Thanks to pakistani intelligence and military planers to perform a brilliant job ever to break pakistan since 1947.I these departments are always headed by childish peoples.shameful for us.
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Realistically what do the Pakhtuns and balochis have in common with punjabis and Sindhis? Historically very little. Punjabis and Sindhis are really north indian in culture, food, and language. Pakhtuns and balochis are more Persian than indian. That is the Gods honest truth.
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Why are we suddenly taken aback by this? Where were our patriot keyboard warriors when Baloch daughters were pleading for their loved ones? Why don’t we hold people accountable. After reading many comments it is evident that the same attitude was prevalent during the 1971 crisis. Sadly, we learned nothing.
No body cares about the US, but if we cared about Baluchistan, we would have made every possible compromise to bring the baloch towards Pakistan’s mainstream.
By uttering preposterous notions of army not involved, jewish conspiracy, “Amreeka want to break up” and the rest of the ludicrous crap, we have effectively signed Pakistanis federation’s death warrant ourselves.
Baluchistan might not become an independent nation, but it will sadly remain lawless and 42% of our land mass may not prosper for a long long time.
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US should be discussing the independence of Puerto Rico that is not even geographically in the same vicinity and still governed by US Congress. What about the Chagos Island and Diego Garcia that US forcefully overtook and threw out its inhabitants?
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Its not about Pakistan only… US is trying to achieve another objective here, i-e, To establish a stronghold in this region to be able to launch strikes on Iran since they would never be able to convince and use Pakistan as a launchpad for its military operations against Iran..
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@pakistanibaloch: Yeah all the southern states. Those republican congressmen have nothing better to do with their luxurious time?
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@Scientist: Not Pakistan. The quota system privileged Punjabi bureaucrats did not learn from their mistakes in East Pakistan. Even we common Pukabis suffer at their hands. It’s not the army’s fault it’s the CSS exam passing jacks of all trades master of none babus whose high handed is causing problems. Recommend
Soon,there would be a bill/resolution in United Nation,God willing…
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Good move, but should have done long back as it got independence on 11th August , 1947 and Pakistan has illegally occupied it since than.
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@Digvijay Singh.
While I respect the opinion of YOU INDIANS, I being a Pakistani (as you are an Indian), disagree with you.
Because Kashmir is an unjust cause. A separation based on religion is a bigoted cause. On the contrary, Balochs are fighting because we Pakistanis have oppressed them.
So, We Pakistan must forget about kashmir and work towards the independence of Balochistan.
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@pakistanibaloch: Love you brother, i am from Punjab i salute you.
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How come similar sentiments are not heartfelt by the US House of Respresentatives for the Palestinians and Kashmiris. This is completely unwarranted for and irresponsible of the so called allies. It’s one thing wanting to rule a country but to use such ploys in order to dis-integrate it, just goes to show how we as Pakistanis have only made wrong choices throughout our history when it comes to foreign policy.
Most Baloch friends I have are very patriotic Pakistanis but we all realize that injustice has been done to them by ignoring their concerns.
All Pakistanis stand together!
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Wake up Pakistan, smell your coffee. Its morning !!!!
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Wo hoo! I wish the baloch bothers to expect their independence soon! Am sure India will do everything possible to help the independent balochistan a free n developing nation.Recommend
We are a nuclear state we know how to defend our country. Previous year more people died in karachi then whole of Baluchistan, so u can well imagine the strength of the movement. If the american are so concerned how abt a plebiscite in Bahrain, Kashmir, New Mexico, India (naxalites)..
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This, apparently is a pay back for: (1) cutting the NATO supply; (2) honoring the agreement with Iran to build the gas pipeline; (3) not bringing the Taliban leadership to the negotiation table; (4) not attacking the Haqqani network; (5) harboring Osama Bin Ladin; and the list goes on…….
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Why the US’ leaders don’t say,define and declare clearly that we are interrupting and meddling in Balochistan’s affairs and also don’t accept this reality before the world that Balochistan’s internal unrest is due to only US’ interruption and meddling?
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@Hawaii Independence: original people of that island would be very happy.
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Thanks US for fighting for human rights around the world. No country should be allowed to occupy other peoples land. Everybody has the right of freedom, Baloch nation can’t live a slavery life anymore.
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@Cautious:
This is just too funny. I guess the US is also reassessing it policy toward PAK. PAK felt it had all the cards in the game – surprise they don’t. It seems two can play the game PAK wants to play.
PAK and for the majority who have made comments do not understand the concept of “What goes around comes around>” PAK believes it can do anything, say anything and then act totally differently and no one is paying attention. Well as you pointed out……they are.
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well, Jinnah started this trend.No point in complaining now.
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@Cautious … how cuuuute … !!
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This person “pakistanibaloch” is a fake person. Balochis do not represent his viewpoint. And his comment has been recommended by panjabis and not balochis. …
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Nice move by USA. We 20 crore Indian Muslims support this initiative.
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A deliberate attempt to provoke unrest. I can only say, Mind your own business and be a daddy to your country, not ours!
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Now that Pakistan is not an obedient servant an independent Balochistan with low population density can essentially serve the purpose.
I hope our perpetually irresponsible media will choose it’s words right.
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Dear brave Baloch brethren, the wheel of freedom just start moving and you got the green light… Keep up the great job, never give up and fight as long as it takes. Seekers are finders. Free Balochistan—- Azad Balochistan. So proud of you Baloch brethren!!!
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OK guys, you have ranted enough and typed in enough. Now get on with the next article or next move by US. There is an opinion column in “The News” which describes how US plans/funds/executes the release valves in muslim countries which releases the anger towards the Americans and then situation becomes normal. This is one another example.
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Fellow Pakistanis, dont forget their well known policy of
DIVIDE and CONQUER
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Free balochistan will solve many problem for the world..We want free balochistan !!..
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U.S gone mad ….. using bad tools to take out her frustration against the rising power of China n Russia in the region.
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We will not tolerate american interference in our region. We are more well trained and more experienced than the americans in breaking up Pakistan. Remember how peacefully and with great finesse we handled the separation of our Bangladeshi brothers.
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America’s selective application of human rights for it’s foreign policy of objectives is truly shameful. Is it blind to the plight of the Kashmiris and Palestinians? One thing is clear, America is not our friend. We must never open up the nato supply routes.Recommend
America has flies, bees, birds, beautiful butterflies
Attract we may with virile, or be guided by our riles
The beautiful swarm or the filthiest of their flies
In our home I can bet, blooms and flora we can set
Shovel feces we instead, security, contempt, other asset.
Stop and we must ask, is it at ours or whose behest
While our home smell afoul, drooling flies begin to prowl
The major voice undrawn,only the honorable growl
Browbeaten sane voices drown, lost in melee, in howl
OneEighty million strong,why put up with this so long
No power can do us wrong, when we all stand along
Singing democratic songs, we must to one nation belong
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Moreover (these americans are so dumb), a free Balochistan with its huge area will provide us with excellent strategic depth.
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How about replicating the same formula in Kashmir, Israel and Alaska?
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Fact is that far less people are dying these days in Kashmir than in Balochistan or Karachi for that matter. We are quietly fixing our internal problems while you guys run from pillar to post complaining of conspiracies to destroy your nation. But even if Balochistan becomes independent, it would be part of the Ummah, which recognizes no borders, right?Recommend
As the policy of this country is KILL N DUMP. Results are seen very soon. This is not 1970s its 2012 where media revolution is in its peak. If this state had a little pity on oppressed communities than problems could b solved. now its the peak time to change the policy and it may be the final chance to do so.
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Apart from few paid terrorizing baloch sardars, the general public are patriotic and have deep love for Pakistan
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Rest of the world excluding Europe and America can killed an determined as COLLETRAL DAMAGE???
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@DevilHunterX:
as they says,
it’s the economy stupid.
that puny israel is barely of the size of New Jersey, but has an economy larger than pakistan.
india, soaring ahead, has lot of opportunities for american comoanies, so they are assisting them. they don’t have any special affection towards them.
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We Balochs thank US Congressman Dana Rohrabacher from the core of our hearts for raising Balochistan Issue on international Levels, We are fed of Hypocrite Pakies who are continously gifting us dead bodies of our beloved one since last 65 years of punjabi slavery. Long live USA, Long Live US Congressman Dana Rohrabacher
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We all need to study the entire issue in detail and then post some comments.USA is always busy in creating troubles in muslim countries and this is in line with their policy.
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Who is Pakistan’s biggest enemy now ————– US or India or both ? How much more can Pakistan possibly spend on defense to deter both these threats ? What is the future of Pakistan ? What will be the future of a new born in the Pakistan of today ?
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Why is the world quiet about 911 , which was a inside job and was designed to blame Muslims
all over the world . And this is what we get because we did not question 911 .
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pakistanis have sacifice lifes for america on its war on terror
america is pakistan nothing
most pakistanis are ready to die for baloch brothers who are there own.
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@ahmed baloch: @indian muslim same people LOL
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@Mahesh:
Poor choice in style. Your target audience have poor understanding of simple sentences. Also, your 180 million makes you extremely weak. That’s because you hate each other and find so many ways to discriminate that a biological twin isn’t even safe. You’re always fighting so just about anyone has easy openings to take advantage of. Just ask the little militant groups.
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… I think the Govt of Balochistan, the FC and the military need to reassess their approach and make a concerted effort in Balochistan to counter ‘the multi bahini model’ being perpetrated by India and the US there … in the same way as the Govt of KPK and the Pakistan Army did in Swat, South Waziristan ands Bajaur – where the US attempt to implement India’s ‘multi bahini model’ …. Also, the same, patient approach is being followed for Khyber, North Waziristan and Orakzai … TTP (and its masters are on the run) …
… the failure of RAW Consulting Group’s advice and plans in SWAT were a good s a real slap in the face of Indians …
In perpetrating the ‘multi bahini model’ … India aims to infiltrate its agents (including local collaborators) …and then draw in the full force of the military, and hopes that the military might will not be able to distinguish between the innocent locals and the infiltrators … hence the place going up in flames!
… in Bengal it worked … in KPK it was very intelligently countered and foiled … so, it can easily be foiled in Balochistan …
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… I think … I am afraid, there is nothing in India to carp about … one only has to visit places and experience things outside the ‘showcase’ … whatever; economy, citizens development, transport, communications, products, human development …
… like me, if you have experienced the Real India, you wouldn’t be having Amy hope for the future … the venal, corrupt Business-Political class of India continues to rape India of its human potential and future …
… India is like a big truck (all done up, painted, decorated) to look like word class … but has a scooter’s engine (economy) to drive it … poor Indian people and people overseas are fooled into a make-believe ‘Shining India’ … while in Real India, tens of millions Whinie under the grind of the rapacious Business-Political Class …
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… US (a dying power) is trying now to bully … this is to show ‘pseudo-Imperial’ displeasure for (a) Pakistan not giving up on Iran-Pakistan Pipeline, and (b) not participating in Allies for Evil’s Get Iran Project …
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long long america long live america
for you 40 thousand pakistanis died on your war on terror
and your fake sympathy is with balochs
laugh on others misery but every punjabi now understands there is problem in balochistanand what is the real problem
before punjabis dont know what actual problem in balochistan ,there sardars kept them poor?why are they poor instead so many packages given to them
but now if pakistanis can die for america then can surely die for baloch brothers,
their grivences will be solved.
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Let us table a Bill in Pakistani Parliament that Pakistani Government & ISI should help all those factions & states in USA which want independence from them.
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Dear moderator, can you please display the IP addresses and location of the post. I think there are too many Sharmas, Guptas here.Recommend
The best agency in the world ISI can break USA and any other country into pieces in time.
We love ISI and would support it with our blood.
So any damn country which has ulterior motives should beware of the resilience of Pakistanis & ISI.
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Thank you Congressman Dana for the moral support of oppressed Baluch nation.
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@2 IN 1: Hi Moderator madam ;)
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@2 IN 1: “same person” not “same people”..lol..
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plz stop ur comments that baloch dont speak english, baloch are further than this thinking..first think of ur self that u r not a baloch that iam sure, bcz baloch can’t be pakistani as you mentioned in ur nick name. dont fool others its enough now..time is up balochistan must get its independence soon, no one can stop
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Balochistani Baloch
cool down bro
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It is US policy to “oppose aggression and the violation of human rights inherent in the subjugation of national groups as currently being shown in Iran and Pakistan against the aspirations of the Baloch people,” said the motion.
Oh please just like the change they have brought about in other countries, like Iraq and Libya, when will our leaders realize whats happening and that they NEED to address the baloch issue on an urgent basis, rather than coming up with meaningless packages such as the joke called “aghaze haqooqe balochistan”
Lets hope that history doesn’t repeat itself and one day we wake up and see the fall of Balochistan just like we witnessed in 71!
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After everything we did for the Americans we get this. I have never seen such treacherous people. Most of Balochistan, especially Quetta, wants to be with Pakistan.
Isn’t democracy, majority rule?
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Free BALUCHISTAN !!
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In fact,
Black cat came out from the bag,see its real face,
America is not a dependable friend.
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secret agencies already operating in Balochistan,
but our rulers disregarded deliberately,shame.
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Flag draped dead bodies of 24 Pakistani soldiers before the nation
and this resolution,shouldn’t object,it was their longstanding policy
which is revealed now,it is eye-opening for all in Pakistan.
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@Asad: US continues to evolve, and so should Pakistan. Shaming one an other on real or imagined violation of rights that exist in any country will not be productive. Balouch insurgency has been smoldering since the time of British Raj.
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Chopping up Libya:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2798033346596&set=o.213018878711849&type=1&ref=nf
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they want,supply line to be opened ,
they want,Pakistan express patience on the death of 24 soldiers targeted to death by NATO forces in the air strike.
They want we close our eyes on the drone attacks which take lives of innocent people,including women and children.
They want,an American,in open kill tow citizens of the country and the nation remained silent .
They want accept total war in terror and submit itself to the economic destruction.
Enough is enough,no further patience,all limits has been crossed by introducing the resolution.
This act reveals America is not a dependable friend.
Kasmire has been disregarded by Americans notwithstanding the fact that it was a real issue between India and Pakistan,four wars has been fought on it,hundred of thousand Kashmiry freedom fighters has martyred but no such resolution was passed on it.why?
Justified demands can be accepted,revolt against the integrity of the country is not acceptable at any cost.
It is dire need of the time,United States revisit its policies toward Pakistan.
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Balochistan will never leave Pakistan. You Americans and Indians better get it through your head. The Baloch are part and blood of Pakistan. Go deal with your Maoists, Sikhs, Kashmiris and Assam who want to break away from India. This “congressman” is a paid off white trash Indian lobby agent who prob can’t locate New York on a map! So called US super power is no more – its Asia’s time. How about the US pay off its trillion dollar debt to China first before starting yet another war?? lols . We are a nuclear power not Iraq or Afghanistan mister congressman!
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@Hamza Balouch(@H_Balouch):
The Balouch are our brothers and sisters. This is all propaganda of the US and India. We will defeat it inshallah. Wrong has been done to Balouchistan in the past by bought US governments but Imran Khan has publicly apologized in Karachi and said that this province will be our main priority if he comes into power IA. Dont loose hope and stay a loyal Pakistani. With love to all Balouchis from a Punjabi/Pathan. We are all PAKISTAN!
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congressman… what about Kashmir???? Kurdistan??? Palestine????
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before USA supported kurds to destabilise iraq,iran,turkey and syria, now they want to play same game against iran, pakistan and afghanistan. so who supports terrorists everybody knows. Long live the muslim unity.
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What’s wrong with self determination. Pakistan always support the right of self determination for oppressed nations like Kashmiri people & Palestinians. Let the Balochis decide to live with Pakistan or not. If they don’t want to live with us, we should honorably leave them. 34 new countries are formed since 1990 and most of them without Genocide and bloodshed.
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You know when the Americans get involved, they usually have their way!!!!
Baloachistan was never a part of Pakistan ever in history. It was annexed NINE MONTHS after the formation of Pakistan. So Pakistan has no case for occupying baloachistan.
The case of Kashmir is totally different since it has been Indian land all throughout history. Also, india has full legal title over Kashmir. Moreover, only natives have right of self determination over a territory. Kashmiri Muslims are not natives of Kashmir as they are Iranian and Uzbek people. Pandits are the only and real natives. So muslims cannot have any right of self-determination in a land that is not their own.
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@Sultan Ahmed:
And PAK is……You joke I am sure….. In fact does have any friends……….other than your all weather friend China.
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US congress initiates many ridiculous bills and they hardly amount to anything, as most fails in the committee voting. No need to terminate relations with the US.
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@imran:
The arrest of Richard Davis was also a breach of international norms of diplomacy. So where were you on that event. What goes around comes around…….Enjoy
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watch your home first uncle Sam…..Bloach are our brothers and always will be…we are like one soul in two bodies………
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An american Republican congressman Mr Dana Rohrabacher has tabled a bill in the US House of Representatives calling upon Pakistan to recognize the right of self-determination for Baluchistan. This is totally blatant, provoking, based on racial / religious hatred n is fallout of Pak-Iran developing relations as regards to energy projects. This is also in retaliation to blockade of NATO supply by Pakistan.This is dirty move n part of american greater “WORLD OREDER” which should be condemned at all levels.They will not succeed in their evil designs Inshallah. But at the same time this is ultimate time for our political / military leadership to come forward and show solidarity with Balochi brethren and feel there pain which they are really going through. Pakistan Inshallah ZindabadRecommend
Pakistan will deserve to have Balochistan taken away from them.
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Master of puppets pulling their strings!!
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America wants another 1971 civil war in Pakistan. They tried getting Pakhtuns to rise up against Pakistan, and that did not work now they are trying to use Baloch to break Pakistan, but don’t worry Baloch are only 3 percent in Pakistan and not all are in Balochistan province. Pakhtun uprising against Pakistan would be more difficult to control because Pakhtuns are now 2nd largest ethnic group in Pakistan.
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The Asian Congress should carpet a bill for the Native Americans right to independence..
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It is quite obvious to apply the long proven success formula of ” Divide and Conquer” , and the most effective tactic of ” Supporting my enemy’s enemy”. Got it folks!
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i cnt understand pakistanis…they perhaps are the most opprobrious of nationalities.. they support every small insignificant arab nation’s claim of freedom for kashmir but for the same reasons in baluchistan, they talk ill about americans…horrible
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this is the result of incessant use of violence and bloodshed in kashmir to irritate india… like, decades ago, pakistan had to part with bangladesh, they must now be ready, coz of their deeds in kashmir, afghanistan again, to part with baluchistan..
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@ all ET readers
no one can interfere in the internal affairs of any other country........and as an Indian I want to put it across to all of you that how come such a thing has happenned..well US cant forget where OBL was found...........
Recommend@BruteForce: Dear… Are you dumb or blind… not seeing the mutilated bodies of my Baloch bros…. not seeing my mother land and its daughters crying… How can you say Baloch will vote to live with this brutal nation… Never ever this will happen if they do a referendum…
Even if those are in the ruling party will vote against Pakistan….. My dear its now too late to mend… We provided you 5 Opportunities, but now we welcome every support and voice raised for us.
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@Muhammad Tahir Mazari:
My Dear .. I think you are a puppet… people like you have destroyed the Baloch struggle. We were independent… will again get our status back. No one could DARE to stop Baloch from their struggle. Not even comments of puppets like you. Whatever US has done elsewhere …. that is a separate story. What good he can do to Save Baloch from this Brutal force and country will be welcomed by 99% of Baloch. Only 1% like you might be on the other side of the border.
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Same chatter like 1971. Get ready to welcome 21st century’ new Pakistan map on globe.Recommend
@DJBaloch,
I was being sarcastic at the end.
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American double standards and its flagrant rejection of international norms are repugnant and must be condemned.
Equally so, however, the Pakistani State’s oppression of the Balochi people cannot go ignored and we must not, CAN NOT, hide blindly behind the banner of nationalism.
I am not an Indian. I am not a Jew. I am a critic of of all state oppression, regardless of where it occurs and who causes it. I am a Pakistani who is ashamed of being a complicit bystander in the systematic violation of Balochi rights by my own state.
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There are so many misconceptions here. Balochistan and Libya are totally different. Balochi people can elect there leaders whereas libyans were not allowed to do same.
Balochistan and East Pakistan are COMPLETELY different. East Pakistan was hundreds of miles away from Capital and I believe ( may be wrong ) the only country in world to have such a geography. It was natural for Bangladesh to separate from Pakistan. If nothing else the two mass of lands were hundreds of miles away separated by your arch rival. Balochistan is ‘within’ the geography of Pakistan. Any attempt for separation would be severely countered by Afghanistan and Iran as Balochistan separating out from Pakistan ( if ever ! ) would cause permanent future issues for Iran and Afghanistan to give away Baloch majority areas. Even if it gets independence ( if ever ) , the new Balochistan though rich in minerals would be surrounded by arch rivals Iran , Afghanistan and Pakistan. Last but not the least , apart from geographical distance making the defense and governance of East Pakistan more difficult , it also had huge population to support an independence movement. Same is not the case with Baluchistan as the population is small and within that population as well , majority is not pro independence, its only the greedy few sardars !!!
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@Yousaf:
Feel free. It would just make you a bigger international joke. No state has ever been on the verge of doing so. They’ve never even used it as an empty threat. The country, without a shred of a doubt, would find it funny and use for running jokes pointed at Pakistan for quite some time. Especially as comedy fodder on TV. There’s no exaggeration in that. If it turned out any other way I’d come to Pakistan and shout something blasphemous from the rooftops so you can kill me.
This is what I mean when I say Pakistanis need to stop thinking other countries are like them. It’s a reason for most of your blunders. You’re always, always coming at every issue from the wrong direction. They’re bad judgment calls and bad judgment calls means incompetence. Incompetence means further lack of respect.
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@Salahuddin:
All are paid for their job … so are the baluchi sardars to create such a fuss in connivance with indian who too are funded by americans!!!
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@John B:
will be wrong to forget rather an indirect mode to achieve their objects!!!
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@BruteForce:
Real baluchis joined Pakistan by choice and not by force … Nawab of Kalat did set an hisstorical example that one must remember. Such choices/referendum are not repdated each year…
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I have been to all parts of Balochistan and well aware that poor masses want liberation from slavery of dominant sardars i.e. mengal, bugti, etc. In Bhutto’s era attempt were made to liberate them from sardars who then fled to mountains …
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What a furious reaction from Pakistani brothers !!
Now i can try to imagine how had been the reaction of people who wanted ‘Akhand Bharat’ when India-Pakistan Partition was proposed.
The same reaction still i see from Indians when someone propose Kashmir Independence.
Either we (Pakistanis & Indians) are more or less emotionally same or this is irrational love for piece of Land (from both sides).
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@Salahuddin:
You have also allowed yourself to be swayed away by the foreign propaganda. Those powers who are controlling the Baluchistan insurgency from Kabul want us to believe that the FC and ISI is involved in these killings so that they can create a discord and mistrust between the people and the Armed Forces of Pakistan. Be watchful about the enemy’s propaganda.
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Taxas belongs to Mexico and it was usurped by use of force. Its possession should be restored to its original country. At the same time the Parliament should reject any US aid through a unanimous resolution.
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if in america any individual put forth any resolution it doesn’t mean american government is doing it. USA has presidential form of government. in india, pakistan, bangladesh etc parliament is supreme. in USA president is supreme. so if Obama adminstration is making such noises, there is need to cry so much. on his personal capacity someone is bringing something to notice of parliament and it is not passed till yet then why to worry so much and make a outcry
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Hey!Congressman……..have a heart,there is no situation like erstwhile East Pakistan when we had hostile country between the two wings of Pakistan.We are a Nuclear state now, be careful,you are a country who has not learnt lesson from VietNam,Korea,Iraq & Afghanistan & above all we are not 53rd state of the US where you can exercise your writ.Remember we can also pass a Bill for independence of all those territories where the Red Indians have majority.You are living in a glass house,don’t through stones on others.
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@Citizen of Pakistan:
so again having problem with the brahmin-baniya combo. well it’s lethal. and i understand why are you complaining this.
but let me assure you we indians have differences, but the moment we hear the word pakistan, we are only indians, and indians only.
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Pakistan balkanization will save the world..
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To all the Indians and other imposters here, let me assure you Baluchistan will always be the fourth wheel in the vehicle that is Pakistan. You will never be able to break us up! We might not be on the same table right now but when it comes to defending our motherland we all are one. No Punjabi, Pathan, Baluch or Sindhi just Pakistani.
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US should give freedom to Puerto Rico in the first place !
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Congratulations from people of Al-Ahwaz
This is a big achievement the Baloch people have reached and as everyone knows it would not be possible without the great sacrifices the Baloch men and women have offered and still offering day by day for freedom.
Nation’s big ambitions only become true by real efforts and continuous popular struggle in the fields of struggle and resistance because this is the only road of getting our rights owing to the fact those Rights are not given, they are taken.
Ali Saedi Ahwazi
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Give few more years and the southern US will be Latinos and whites will be kicked out. This is just a writing on the wall. But the point is that U.S is never a friend of any country except Israel,
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Good bye Baluchistan.
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Indian lobby has been quite successful as well as Indian infiltration in Balochistan targetting the innocent people of Balochistan which indirectly is targetting the nation of Pakistan . . .this is how India does its terrorism against Pakistan from different channels.
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@Saleem:
“East Pakistan was hundreds of miles away from Capital and I believe ( may be wrong ) the only country in world to have such a geography. “
Of course, you are wrong. Continental US and Alaska and Hawaiian Islands have the same geography. But they are not a Muslim country – a big difference. Look around. Understand all Muslim countries are out of step with the times and must come to grief one way or another at some time or another. The only Muslim countries which are a bit stable are Malaysia (due to a large Indian and Chinese population) and Turkey ( a born Jew – Kemal Ataturk – bequeathed to them a political system which they are now trying desperately to islamize). Even Egypt with such an ancient civilization is now floundering. There is no escaping the fact that Muslims simply are inept and can’t govern themselves.
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180 million Pakistanis which include the corrupt, selfish, greedy leaders, citizens, police, establishment, judiciary. Please don’t waste any more valuable time any more pointing fingers at USA, India, Israel when you should be pointing these fingers at YOURSELF. If you had done this, understood what is wrong with you, had done something about it then you would not be heading towards DISINTEGRATION of PAKISTAN. You are actually undergoing self-destruction or disintegrating but slow enough that you don’t see it. Separation E.Pakistan was the beginning. All of you are too busy wining and dining and collecting personal wealth. No one in Pakistan yet worked on Nationalism or Nation building in 65 years. Penalty has to be paid. How severe, it is up to you.
USA or America is NATION made up of many provinces. It has National Policy. America always does what is in its “National Interest”, both locally and globally, short term or long term with decades ahead planning and strategizing, implementing, learning for mistakes on the way and making course correction when necessary. All great nations do this. Pakistan can be that great Nation with so much wealth in quality hardworking people, resources.
The BODY of PAKISTAN is weak and any disease will attach and succeed.
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The ring leader in this back door war against Pakistan is India . . .using the poor people of Balochistan as their scape goat to ride on and fooling and taking the great nation USA for a ride in order to accomodate India’s evil proxy war against Pakistan. What a CHEAP SHOT against the sovereignty of Pakistan.
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I as a Baloch thank the United States n thank the congress men n women for addressing this issue and all people who are opposing it and declaring Balochistan as a so called part of Pakistan where were u n ur voice when pakistan army was killing Baloch people where were u when Akbar Buti was killed by the pakistan army where were u when Balochs are arressted by pakistan army n there dead boddies come back the families now u talk coz u know u can kill the un armed Balochs but u can’t compete with the United States once again i say thank u from the very depth of my heart to the United States.
One more thing pakistan is in existance since 60 or 70 years Balochistan has been in existance since over 700 million years when pakistan got its independence Baloch people were tricke in joining it.
I say we want freedom stop killing our people.
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Balochistan is an integral part of our nation, it supplies us with gas and we cannot afford to free this province. Pakistan army must crush the rebels in this region and establish the rule on Balochistan.Recommend
Sad to see the great nation of USA being controlled by India. Sad to see this great nation become the ‘Voice of India’. A much higher standard is expected out of USA . . . Listening to the perpetual enemy of Pakistan ‘India’ is not at all smart. The Baloch people are being insulted by this bill as they are true Pakistani and the entire nation of Pakistan is suffering as a result of the Indian terror proxy war unleashed on the nation of Pakistan. USA should be helping Pakistan rather than trying to break it as per India’s anti Pakistan plans which will never succeed. There is still time to be educated about Pakistan and its multiethnic, multiculture society and its economic challenges. This is purely an internal matter and Pakistan Army need to take charge and clean Balochistan from the foreign spies and terrorist funding insurgents, in order to bring peace, law and order. A young country like Pakistan needs this dose from the Pak Military now and then for clean up purposes!! Nevetheless Pakistan still has hope and high expectations from the USA to be its own fair voice and not that of India’s anti Pakistan.
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We balochs are not pokistani irani afghans we are balochs and balochistan belongs to us and we have full rights for our self detarmations
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@butt jee:
“Taxas belongs to Mexico and it was usurped by use of force. Its possession should be restored to its original country. At the same time the Parliament should reject any US aid through a unanimous resolution.”
You are right that Texas was once part of Mexico. But, what you seem to be missing is the fact that if Texans ever decide to hold a referendum and join Mexico, they would be allowed to do that if the referendum passes. A similar thing happened in Canada where a referendum was held in Quebec on secession from Canada; the referendum failed.
You were not exactly complaining when congressmen, supported by Pakistani ISI money by agent Nabi Fai (recently arrested and put in jail), brought anti-India Kashmir resolutions in the congress year after year.
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@Indians. India is a very boring place, or the Indian economy is not doing well (belting the tall claims), or the Indian media is boring, pandering to and toeing the Indian Government line … this is why most Indians just sit on the internet whiling their time away, that too on Pakistani newspaper websites.
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@ Hamzah – One more Indian imposter detected. Go back to your own Indian news paper and say all you want.
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@Mohammad Ali Siddiqui:
Yes we remember what happened with East Pakistan. Seriously wake up from your fiction world where Pak are filled with heroes and will die for their land. Grow up
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U pakis will never understand. 1 thing we baloch natoin are all different from u ppl culturewise language and all rest other since 50 yrz ur gverment and ppl are stealing the resurces of baloch natoin with nothing in return. There was a time when u and ur leader shake hand by saying we are muslim and should stand with each other . But nw the poorest prvience is balochistan the time is come now wake up baloch we don’t want to go trough wht our fathers and grandfather gone through coz of pakis free baloch natoin and freedm for baluchista. I prefer living with a jewish than living with pakis freeeeeedomRecommend
How about addressing the poverty and hunger in the entire country of Pakistan if there is so much concern and how about a bill for the freedom of Kashmir from India. A genocide has been committed on the poor people of Indian occupied Kashmir . . . where is your voice for them??
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The qustion is who gone lead this country? The american? So we can know what they really want from this.. And we have to ask our self how it’s gone be? They will fight eich other to lead baloochistan.Recommend
I am very familier with russians play politics and know very well their secrete interests.
1-Right now they cannot afford and it will be their nightmare if usa truly get out of afghanistan because thier puppets northern alliance and hazara will lose and drugs in to russia will flow and radicalism will move into tajikistan uzbekistan and russia
and afghans will ask russian for help and they are surely not helping.
This is why usa must take care for Baluchistan it is a gift and free one for usa for empowering usa and safe guard it self by creating bufferzone against uprising superpowers.I cant believe how pakistan triked huge usa with all cia and …….for doing no thing value able and worthy for west and usa but only as Punjabies are so expert when it come to get money by any methods
if India was the matter ,I TURST WITHOUT PAKISTAN INDIA COULD LONG AGO 50 YEARS AGO BECOME UNITED FRIEND WITH USA bit it was paksitan who used this wild card very pecpectly for abusing usa
pluse mass panatism and ,nukes,nation who hate usa and west, and a real imenent threat of using bad one the nuke and eger to use it.please act before it is too late.
pluse mass panatism and ,nukes,nation who hate usa and west, and a real imenent threat of using bad one the nuke and eger to use it.please act before it is too late
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