Ambassador Hoagland was told in clear terms that the move in the US Congress was contrary to the spirit of friendly relations and violates the principles of the United Nations Charter, international law and the recognised norms of inter-state conduct.
He was asked to convey the serious concern of the Government of Pakistan to the US Administration, said a statement of the Foreign Office.
The motion, which had been moved by Congressman Dana Rohrabacher and co-sponsored by House Representatives Louie Gohmert and Steve King, highlights Balochistan’s troubled past with the centre after the creation of Pakistan and calls upon Pakistan to recognise the Baloch right to self determination.
Today, a resolution was also filed in the Punjab Assembly secretariat to condemn the US bill on Balochistan and demanded that US Ambassador to Pakistan Cameron Munter be summoned in the house for an explanation.
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@Siddique Malik:
Pakistan signed contracts with NATO
and in Contract Law the doctrine of:"Pacta servanta sunt!" rules.
The CONTRACTS must be served!
In case Islamabad breaks these contracts,NATO will sue the Pakistan Government for a breach of contract and as know the USA lawyers are very sharp,they aready embeded such a clausels in these contracts,which will oblige Pakistan to pay VERY stiff penalties.
@Siddique Malik:
You with your AID! What aid? When I listen to CNN reporters,US is giving AID in BILLIONS (they always speak about BILLIONS!) to every peasant in Subcontinental Africa!
USA does NOT give AID to Pakistan...these are probably loans from INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND or the World Bank.
@Iron hand:
You have to study State&Constitutional laws before you talk.
Before a bill is presented for debating and accepting as official law,it is discussed in Subcommittees.
@Pakistan politics:
Nothing will happen?! You are much to "gutgläubig" ....naive in Pakistan!
CNN said recently US applied to Islamabad for permission to open a Consulate in Quetta.
Why? Are there sooooooooooooooooooooo many wealthy Balochs,who want to travel to USA?
@Kulamarva Balakrishna: very shamful & shocking- these + the humen rigts-killling of children/ women & thousand of inosent people in Afganistan/ Iraq & all over the world is in the good fatith for serveing the huminuty.This is unfortunate for the whole world i e,powerful is the judge & descion-this is the law of jungle.Atleast the humen rights association should be honest for humanity.Kashmiri people have no humen rights. phelastenian people are not humen.Humen are only those who in in states or in there co States.people shold be ashamed to be dis honest & claiming for humen rights work for just money, realy shamful.
@some one: nato doesnt need pakistan for supplies.it only needs balochistan.
@Amir: "you will be flooded with foreigners promising you Junnah with valleys of Honey and Wine but in truth it your land will run of Blood " - like the way it is doing now under Pakistan's administration ? we gave decades of chance to clean their act, we can take risk to let others help us. And please mind, we are not dumb to let foreigners settle in our land, we made that mistake once by letting Pakistanis settle in and we all know the outcome. we did this in name of greater brotherhood and muslim unity, but clearly quite many people in mainland Pakistan has some weird ideas on muslim unity. Quite many punjabi religious leaders have deeply extremists and violent thinking on unity. You dont give any right to us nor ahmadis. Few Punjabi muslims decided who can be called muslims ? Well whatever those are your issues. We just need freedom and I guess you guys should respect it. In one hand if you believe strongly that Kashmiris should get freedom because it is their will , why can;t you understand that we want freedom from Pakistan because this is our will. Why don't you support us as you support Kashmiris ?
You people need to understand reality , you dont hold a begging bowl in one hand and make demands with the other. When pakistan learns to stop begging then start making bold statements, until then please keep quiet
@Uzair Javaid: "Your energy starved nation would burn wood if Pakistan doesnt allow any gas pipe or stuff."
It is true that India is energy starved. There is however no dependence on Pakistan for power. The bulk of electricity is through coal (some of which is Indian the rest imported from Australia), water and finally oil which comes from Iran, UAE, Saudi Arabia. None of the oil is routed through Pakistan.
Enough with this unnecessary hungama over nothing! Any dum congressman can introduce any bill on the floor and there are some crazy bills that are on the floor we need to rise in ONE VOICE if the bill is voted on otherwise talk among your selves and continue in your world of texting !
Balochi Liberal You are the crazy Pakistani iv met Yes agreed Sindhi and Punjabi rule pakistan but all major nations have certain areas where the rulers come from with no disrespect to Balochi. France -Paris, England- London that doesnt mean lesser places like Manchester and Birmingham dont contribute . Your smelling Western food and you think that your going to get Balochi and its all yours for years fHA ! Crazy the west will be there before you can make a capital taking your gold, copper and silver and if you think your make a "jihad" and kick them out they will squash balochistan first then pakistan. Please splitting up Pakistan you think your going to benefit ? No it will be worse because you will be flooded with foreigners promising you Junnah with valleys of Honey and Wine but in truth it your land will run of Blood of your once pakistanis brothers and you wont like the new Balocistan !
@Mohammad Ali Siddiqui: "And at the same time, Pakistan Ambassador to US, Sherry Rehman should have been asked to come back Pakistan, without assigning any reason to Obama Admininistration." Yes, when they take a roll-call of all ambassadors from all countries every morning, Sherry Rahman's absence would have been noted with panic and an FIR lodged with the DC Police for missing person (having left without assigning any reason). That last poke -"without assigning any reason"- would have certainly floored the Obama Administration from White House down. Then, in desperation, an Amber Alert would have been sounded throughout the country. What la-la land - and world- are you living in, sir!
Whether or not the resolution will have any impact on Blochistan ,American congressman has created a ripple in already troubled waters of Pakistan.Americans are creating problems one after the other for Pakistan for the last couple of years.They have almost stopped aid to Pakistan and might further embarrass us as they have been doing in the past.They use us & then drop us like a hot brick.Now is our turn,US ambassador should be declared Persona-non-grata & simultaneously we should recall our ambassador from Washington DC.They will understand this language better.This is an extreme action,but we are left with no other option & the entire Pakistan nation will support & stand behind the government.
@Lame-indianDude: W.T.EFF do you think the indians are anyway?? your commentary wasn't required here at first, secondly the world cant afford to ban Pakistanis entry into their countries, you need to now accept the very hard reality for the indians that Pakistan is the need in this region. Your energy starved nation would burn wood if Pakistan doesnt allow any gas pipe or stuff. You cant just sell silicon chips to the world for a living dude! get this in your head
who care!
if US made any bill , so may be its a bill for them, but for us nothing more than a useless thing which should thrown in the dustbin...LOL
also I advice the Pakistani Parliament that make a bill for liberation of California & Texas & South Dakota & Alaska & Southern American Republic , & every american state which seek independent !
also the elected parliament of Baluchistan condemned that american stupid bill!
we love Pakistan, & will be in Pakistan, & will remain & die as Pakistanis,
Baluchistan is the Part of Pakistan
Pakistan Painda baad
@Siddique Malik: Hahahaha The funniest comment in this forum.
@Mumbai kid - Please go back to Mumbai. It is your wishful thinking that Pakistan will forget about Kashmir just because India has created a distraction in Balochistan by spreading its Indian spy net work against the people of Balochistan and Pakistan as a whole. Remember . . . Can't fool all the people all the time!
To all Pakistanis above who comments Balochistan is internal issue and other countries should stay out. why such double standards ? On one hand you force other countries to meddle with Kashmir which is India's issue and on other you don't want nations to help this genuine freedom call from Balochis ? Do you see any similarity between Balochistan and Bangladesh ? If not then you will soon see. And I am sure people like Zaid hamad will continue blaming RAW and CIA and will never accept that it is the punjabi and Sindhi muslims who are tyrant and not leave us peacefully. Inshallah our blood will not go in vein and we will soon see our freedom from Pakistan.
Pakistan caught red handed for it's double standards. For Kashmir it is the same office which calls for external pressure to resolve the issue and for Balochistan it is asking nations to stay away ?
@omarz: "What about the Red Indian tribes in America, What about their natural right to self-determination and independence from America?"
Get with the times. No-one calls them Red Indians. They are called Native Americans - a term that honors the fact that they were the original inhabitants. Also there is not a single state in USA where the Native Americans have a majority.
@babloo. you ao.'t got no clue of how the American political system works ...
... already a useless debate is going on ... please do not disturb the grand armchair experts ...
Balochistan isn't disputed any more than New Delhi is ...
@Siddique Malik: "@gp65: Are you saying that the show is permanent? "
I am an Indian so I do not know. I can only guess based on what I read. IT seems to me that while the drummed u anger through media and also through DPC jalsas was intended to gain leverage in negotiations with Americans, the move is likely to backfire for a couple of reasons: 1) They tried it earlier in the Raymond Davis case and there was a huge blowback so given how people feel about this, the parliament keeps postponing its decision on reopening the land route.
2) The Americans pay a higher cost no doubt for the other route but at some point I think they want to call the Pak army's bluff. So it is unlikely that that they will give anything more than what they were already willing to give in lieu of the land route ($2.2 billion of aid is for this alone. The whole notion that Pak army's 140,000 people are supporting the global war on terror is a lie told to Pakistanis by their leaders. Everyone else understand that they are simply fighting an internal insurgency by TTP. The Pak army does not attack Afghan Taliban or Haqqanis or even attempt to keep a check on them.
3) In absence of being able to claim that they got some additional benefits out of reopeing the land route, it is going to be very difficult to sell the reversal this time. 3 months of stoppage has hardened positions and it would be difficult to reverse the decision without some key gesture by US - which it has so far been unwilling to do.
... a useless debate going on ... by ill informed armchair Indian experts possessing half-baked theories ... these guys have nothing better to do ...
I do not understand why Pakistan is fueling this issue so much. This will actually help the internationalization of the Baloch issue and give it more traction. One after another govt body is doing something or the other in every passing day and that keeps the issue alive and in the foremost headlines. How silly is it of Pakistan to volunteer for such wonderful publicity? Baloch nationalists must be very happen with the exposure that they have got by this one development.I have not seen or heard of such stupidity for a long time now.
Baluchistan is now a 'disputed territory' - disputed by India, Baluch people , Afghanistan and Iran.
Anyone with an elementary understanding of the American political systems should realize that the Executive branch of their govt has no control over the legislative branch - especially when the House of Representatives is controlled by the opposition party. Typical Pakistan - lots of bluster for the benefit of the public - all show and no go.
@gp65: Are you saying that the show is permanent? Also, Pakistani airspace is open to American transport planes. I am not complaining; actually, I am thankful to the people of Pakistan for the sacrifices they have made in helping defeat the terrorists. It's just that when Pakistan's shaky establishment that generally responds well to phone calls from Washington pretends to its people that it is controlling the show, it looks funny.
@Seema Shaikh: Completely agree with you. Pakistanis' biggest problem is not India, America, Israel, etc., but their army that gobbles up most of the resources. If Pakistan gets pure democracy sustained by selfless leaders -- Imran Khan and all the trashy politicians of the past he has collected under his umbrella do not count – then Pakistan's relationship with America, India, Israel and all other countries will be based on mutual respect and interests. Pakistanis have their work cut out for them. May God bless the great people of Pakistan and empower them to assume control of their destiny!
Pakistan is and remains beautiful ... and a lovely place be ...
India never forgets to summon ambassadors whenever it doesn't like statements made by their functionaries / democratic institutions ... When Pakistan exercises its rights ... it is criticised ... by arm-chair experts ...
Pakistan has all the right to do things and have views that it thinks fit ...
@omarz:
Good idea. Let us hope PAK will introduce this in the UN. This will only make PAK look like a bigger fool than it already does......I know that is hard to beleive.
What about the Red Indian tribes in America, What about their natural right to self-determination and independence from America? This Continent and all the States actually belongs to the people of the Land which are the Tribes of Red Indians this Human rights issue should be taken to United Nations.
@Siddique Malik: Our Army is stopping because they know if American money would not flow in our economy then Pakistani economy can not shoulder the burden of huge expenses of our army, here govt has nothing to do with this. Govt and ppl of pakistan can survive without American aid where army will not. Army is not holy cow that every time its mess slung on the civilian govt. Ayob's 10yrs and yahay's 1&half years atrocities committed against Bangalis and Bhutto made responsible for it, Musharruf has pushed Balochistan on the verge of fall, now every one want civilian govt to clean all that mess of 12 yrs, though agencies are still messing with Balochis. If we are so concerned about Balochistan than we must remove the cancer rather then covering it up.
@bangash: Great observation!
@Ayesha Khan: Awesome! Great points.
The US response will be "Noted"..........want to go for tea?
Pakistan has already lost its sovereignty to the Taliban in FATA but is now lecturing US about Baluchistan.
@Saboor: "Pakistan’s NA, Senate & PA’s should present similar bills to liberate New Mexico, Texas, Nevada & California as Hispanic country"
Couple of points to consider: 1. Do you think US would care if you did that? 2. What the COngressman has proposed is a vote for self determination. Forget the White and Black Americans, do you think the Mexicans would vote to be part of US or choose to separate? Remember many of them are so attracted to US that they are in US illegally.
There is a lesson in this for Pakistan. Stop interfering in other nations and everybody else will stop it too. Pakistan should put economic growth on the agenda and not let the people like the ones in Difa-e-Pakistan set the agenda. Those people have all lived their lives and made their living. They have nothing to lose.Now they want to thrust their weird principles on the youth of Pakistan.
@Siddique Malik: "@some one: And what’s stopping Islamabad from doing that?"
Good question. Except it was false bravado on part of 'some one'. The land route to US has already been withdrawn, US soldiers were never allowed on Pak soil, so they cannot be made to leave. The Shamsi airbase has been vacated. The 140,000 Pak soldiers on FATA border that Pak claims are supporting war on terror are doing no such thing. They are fighting TTP which is a local insurgency. Neither Haqqani nor Afghan Taliban are not being pursued by Pak forces.
@some one: "If Islamabad stops all NATO supplies from Pakistani soil and tells the American soldiers to pack up and leave pakistani soil, then that is a greater blow to America than any aid packages…"
Pakistan has already stopped NATO supplies through land route. US soldiers were never allowed i Pak anway. So Pak's leverage is REALLY shrinking.
Vienna,February 20,2012 Pakistan should at least respect the sovereignty of the United States of America and its lawmakers to participate in their own legislative role.This is particularly important when it claims sovereign rights to shelter several bands of worst global terrorist criminals. Pakistan also should learn human rights are global while national rights are limited to geographical boundaries.At the worst it can be expected to demand of the U.S.is to ask the U.S.for severance of diplomatic relations if it dares to do so. Taravadu Taranga Trust for Media Monitoring TTTMM India --Kulamarva Balakrishna
This is not a bil but a resolutionl. A bil if passed becomes an ACT and has the forece of law behind it. That is not the case for a resolution.
@some one: And what's stopping Islamabad from doing that?
US and other NATO countries should ban people of pakistan travelling to and from the NATO countries, until the NATO supply is re-opened and pakistan delivers Mullah Omar, Hafeez of LeT and other terrorist. No visitor, student, business or immigration visas. See how long their Army general's and other elite can last. Hit these elites where it hurts and they will fall in line in a few weeks!
@Siddique Malik
If Islamabad stops all NATO supplies from Pakistani soil and tells the American soldiers to pack up and leave pakistani soil, then that is a greater blow to America than any aid packages...
There was no need to summon the acting US Ambassador but instead he should have asked to leaving Pakistan on 24 hours notice.
And at the same time, Pakistan Ambassador to US, Sherry Rehman should have been asked to come back Pakistan, without assigning any reason to Obama Admininistration.
There should be no compromise on Pakistan soverignity at any cost.
I hope Islamabad will not cut off all Pakistani aid to America.
Siddique Malik, Louisville, Kentucky, USA.
Pakistan's NA, Senate & PA's should present similar bills to liberate New Mexico, Texas, Nevada & California as Hispanic country
What do they think the ambassador can do? The US administration has no control over what topics individual congressmen choose to address, especially not congressmen from rival political parties.. More ignorant posturing from Pakistan.
As usual notjing will happen
I think Pakistan needs to stop panicking about this worthless bill.
PPP's 4 years of empty promises on all fronts is putting Pakistan in difficult situation like 1971. Army and ISI played their role is destroying the nation's trust. Major representation of Punjab in Army caused mistrust among others. All nations are patriotic to Pakistan but Army composition gives another picture.
the americans should stop interfering in our internal matters.they want to neutralize china's role in helping pakistan.they've used their proxies inside balochistan to attack chinese workers before,roads and rail network from gwadar to the rest of the country was not allowed to be developed due to constant attacks.now since their fight with iran is intensifying they want to gain control of balochistan by having a friendly and pliant govt. there that follows america's commands so that they can encirlce iran completely.our govt. and military should wake up and take concrete steps before america succeeds in separating balochistan from pakistan.