Ahmadi-owned products: Lahore lawyers stick to ban in face of criticism

Published: February 13, 2012

Minority lawyers term the decision condemnable and disappointing.

LAHORE: The Lahore Bar Association (LBA) received strong criticism from minority lawyers over the proposed ban of Shezan drinks at the premises of lower courts.

The decision to ban Ahmadi-owned products on the premises of subordinate courts was reached earlier at the LBA’s bar room following the recommendations of Advocate Ghulam Mustafa Chaudhry, president of the Khatme Nabuwat Lawyers Forum (KNLF).

According to a statement by LBA President Chaudhry Zulfiqar Ali, the proposed decision was being taken into the general house, however the procedural move was unlikely to change LBA’s stance on the ban. Zulfiqar said a team has been formed to ensure that the decision taken by the house was implemented, and vowed tough action against those found buying or selling Ahmadi-owned products on court premises.

Asked about his opinion on the subject, he said, “One thing is very clear that Shezan will not be allowed in subordinate courts.”

Lawyers belonging to the Ahmadiya community, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the decision was condemnable and disappointing.

Published in The Express Tribune, February 13th, 2012.

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Reader Comments (145)

  • John B
    Feb 13, 2012 - 10:16AM

    Please also tell these lawyers that today I returned 23 soccer balls(bought for my team) made in Pakistan back to the store as sign of protest and filled in a form for my reason to the corporate office.

    What these lawyers are doing is institutional discrimination and apartheid and until I hear otherwise I will boycott the products and produce from Pakistan.

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  • Fatima
    Feb 13, 2012 - 11:14AM

    Absolutely disgusting! This is blatant and sick discrimination. How can Pakistan be a signatory to the UDHR and then allow such blatant human rights violations. This should be taken up by the international community since our govt and law makers are perpetuating rather than preventing such acts. Ashamed to call myself a Pakistani and Muslim.

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  • Fahad Karam
    Feb 13, 2012 - 11:15AM

    I wonder if these lawyers know if all the Mercedes Benz car’s the cheif justice’s of the High Court and the Supreme Court drive around in are imported solely by Ahmadis? Maybe they should petition the judges to return those. I’d love to see how that goes down with the judges. And while they’re at it, they should also return Dr. Abdus Salam’s Nobel Prize…

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  • Amira
    Feb 13, 2012 - 11:31AM

    Aren’t lawyers supposed to be educated people?Recommend

  • Shahzad
    Feb 13, 2012 - 11:32AM

    We, as a nation, need to show some sense and tolerance towards others. If a so called educated section of our society, self-proclaimed saviour of the constitution, is so bigoted, intolerant and extremist then one can imagine extremism of masses of common people in Pakistan. Same fanatical attitude was shown by them in the case of Mumtaz Qadri, a self-confessed murderer.

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  • mir
    Feb 13, 2012 - 11:40AM

    Is pakistan moving towards aparthied state, it is ridiculous so next will be banning christian products then shia products then bralvi products, why lahore lawyers? its height of stupidity.

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  • M M Malik
    Feb 13, 2012 - 11:45AM

    Whosoever the All Mighty wants to destroy, He first dims their wits!

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  • Kashif Ali
    Feb 13, 2012 - 11:59AM

    @John B,
    do you think it matters to us “pious, holier than thou” Muslims if you stop buying our products? Pakistan doesnt need your pitiful purchase.Recommend

  • ishaq
    Feb 13, 2012 - 12:07PM

    Where is CJ now?

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  • DevilHunterX
    Feb 13, 2012 - 12:08PM

    @John B:
    Wallet, not guns, speak louder than words.

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  • Indian
    Feb 13, 2012 - 12:13PM

    Pls make good trade relations with us so that we can purchase their product. We will make sure they survive. I will lobby in India for ahmadis..

    Unfotunately in Pakistan every minority is on the brink of extinction :-

    Shia killings
    Ahmadi are non muslim
    Mujahirs
    Hindus are decreasing
    Balooch killing
    Chiritians are jailed and killed.

    Everything is denied :- 26/11 is done by india, 9/11 is done by USA, OBL raid was fake..

    Perhaps Only Sunnis are safe. What is happening in Pakistan..Pls let us know..

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  • Amer
    Feb 13, 2012 - 12:16PM

    Once again, discrimination towards another religious group by so called tolerate pakistanis. And lawyers of all people who are provoking this. Unbelievable. No matter how Pakistani would like to like to portrayed to outsiders in the western world, acts such as this, reconfirm the fact that Pakistan is a backward, and fundamentally diseased state which deserves it’s third world ranking. Ashamed to be Pakistani here in the USA, i routinely now tell others, i am from India.

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  • bob
    Feb 13, 2012 - 12:22PM

    I think these lawyers need to be told that while they are banning Shehzan as being a Ahmedi run business… there substitute aren’t very Islamic either..
    Nestle..jewish
    Pepsi…Jewish
    Coca cola… Jewish

    even the black Bata shoes which most of them wear is a Jewish company.....and we have been trading wit non muslims countries all our lives...so whts the point...
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  • Saleem Ahmad
    Feb 13, 2012 - 12:27PM

    This act clearly reflects that our Lawyers and Law Makers have nothing significant to do and have no regards what so ever with the country affairs rather they need to ban the products of a company associated with Ahmadis. Hats off to them all and they are supposed to lead the nation.

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  • Stewie Griffin
    Feb 13, 2012 - 12:27PM

    Only happens in Pakistan.

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  • Pakistani27
    Feb 13, 2012 - 12:30PM

    This is WRONG! We cannot let this continue…they are Pakistanis! Does that not count anymore?! These bigoted disgusting Mullahs just need to STOP pointing fingers at all vulnerable populations in our country…women, minorities…WE NEED TO STOP THIS RIGHT NOW….or it will be you and your children next!

    Fight for the WHITE in your FLAG

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  • Sadia
    Feb 13, 2012 - 12:33PM

    These lawyers should be condemned by all Pakistani society. I can’t express how disgusted i am. Recommend

  • Acorn Guts
    Feb 13, 2012 - 12:41PM

    I hope they ban American and Jew owned products as well only then we can spend our days eating pious, halal, full of vitamins and rich in muslim zeal 100% pakistani products such as Kissan Urea, Rambo tyres and our old-time favourite 5 star battery acid.

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  • Pakistani
    Feb 13, 2012 - 12:46PM

    After all, we just say

    LOVE FOR ALL,
    HATRED FOR NONE.

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  • Saqib
    Feb 13, 2012 - 12:49PM

    I wonder what can change our society, of which I am ashamed of, this is everyday story the rudeness, corruption, hatred, intolerance is in our blood now thanks to our Mullahs, I wish i learn Harmony, Tolerance, Peace, Love, Sharing, Cleanliness, rights of others even personal hygiene everything which Islam has taught us in basics, Cant we learn anything from UAE,Turkey, Malaysia..

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  • Suhail Malik
    Feb 13, 2012 - 12:49PM

    Just sense the level of judgment of these so called lawyers. What an ordinary ciizen of Pakistan expact from them in term of justice.

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  • Mani
    Feb 13, 2012 - 12:52PM

    i wonder what if the all non-muslims stop buying muslim products or Pakistani products? Will they feel discriminated or happy to part ways with the rest of the world? And they talk about lack of education, they talk about islam islam islam, is this the islam being taught in our country? God help us

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  • Faheem
    Feb 13, 2012 - 12:58PM

    Who are we to ban products by Ahmedis, I am a muslim but i do not have any right object other person’s religion. If i want to convert an ahmedi or a person from any other religion then it must be how our beloved prophet (S.A.W) did it by his acts, how sufis came in sub-continent and spread Islam. My LORD IS RABUL-ALEMIN AND NOT RABUL MUSLIMEEN ONLY. He has created human beings, and they must be left to live according to their religion. Lahore high court must be ashamed of itself.

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  • Hafeez
    Feb 13, 2012 - 1:16PM

    Lawyers! you are disappointing us all. Under what authority are you banning these drinks? Can any of these lawyers explain as to what source would they use to going for a ban, religious, PPC or what source?

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  • Alim
    Feb 13, 2012 - 1:27PM

    @mir:
    Hello who is sleeping here?. Pakistan became an aparthied state in 1974. Ahmadis cannot vote because of separate electorate. Shezan issue is not even an issue because its shareholders include non ahmadis. But real aparthied is in the constitution, that document that is not even worth the paper it is written on.

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  • Asif Rauf
    Feb 13, 2012 - 1:30PM

    I don’t understand such behaviors. They have taken such decisions in past and were not resulted into their favor. Indeed such discrimination will lead Our Pakistan in dark ages. Muslims were doing trade with non-believers and Jews in time of the Holy Prophet (S.A.W)

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  • Sikander
    Feb 13, 2012 - 1:34PM

    Lets have a round of applause for the educational institutions that produced Lawyers with such excellent and futuristic vision.

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  • Hamaad Haider, Lawyer
    Feb 13, 2012 - 1:41PM

    Dissolve the Lahore Bar Association! It has no right to exist in light of its discriminatory and unconstitutional acts. Strip these lawyers of their licenses. They have no right to be the guardian of the Constitution where all they can do is defy it with their overwhelming illiteracy.

    Entry into the legal profession shall be made competitive if you don’t want your courts to be taken over by hooligans.

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  • Pashtun voice
    Feb 13, 2012 - 1:41PM

    I love Shezan. The best mango drink in the market. Recommend

  • Concerned
    Feb 13, 2012 - 1:48PM

    As far as I know, the Shezan products are fully automated without any human intervention. Majority of the staff working there are Non-Ahmadis. Just owning a company by Ahmadis is such a big crime????. Shame on Such lawyers.

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  • Feb 13, 2012 - 1:52PM

    Chief Justice please take notice.

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  • Feb 13, 2012 - 2:00PM

    NOT Fair at all
    Who is going to solve this problem now

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  • Truth Teller
    Feb 13, 2012 - 2:09PM

    Although a Sunni but from now on I will only be buying Shezan products! We love our Ahmedi brothers & sisters.

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  • Feb 13, 2012 - 2:11PM

    Ban other toxic sugared color water loaded with preservatives too.

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  • Feb 13, 2012 - 2:32PM

    @Indian:
    and have you wondered who is at the back of this chaotic situation in pakistan????INDIA

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  • M Umer Khan
    Feb 13, 2012 - 2:47PM

    is this a sick joke!!!

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  • nationalist baloch
    Feb 13, 2012 - 2:50PM

    … the fitting reply to this would be … to buy, buy buy and use, use Shezan products with a vengeance ….

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  • I Man
    Feb 13, 2012 - 2:51PM

    What constitution?? Our con……. is biased, threrefore LBA has to give this ruling.

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  • Muhammed
    Feb 13, 2012 - 2:59PM

    Buying goods that come from Jewish and Christian businesses is perfectly FINE !

    The Ulema have clearly layed out the problem in buying productts supplied by Ahmedis (especially shezan which donates an annual percentage of its profits for the cause) the reason is that ahmedis are ZINDEEQs i.e. people who are not muslim but claim to be muslim. Jewish and christian people do NOT claim to be muslim. it is OBLIGATORY upon every muslim to boycottt ahmedi owned brands.

    JazakAllah

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  • Kafka
    Feb 13, 2012 - 3:15PM

    Ban all imported products as they are produced by Non-muslims. But be prepared for a reaction when they stop buying our products.

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  • Ali Khan
    Feb 13, 2012 - 3:24PM

    @b Indian: is all well in India? No killing of Muslims, Christians, Sikhs and low caste?

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  • Martx
    Feb 13, 2012 - 3:34PM

    That’s exactly what happened in Germany before the holocaust – boycott of Jewish goods & services. Lord protect the minorities of this country, you’re the last resort they have!

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  • Anonymous
    Feb 13, 2012 - 3:55PM

    this is nonsesRecommend

  • Malik
    Feb 13, 2012 - 3:56PM

    Utter madness

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  • Liberalache
    Feb 13, 2012 - 3:59PM

    If they want to boycott Ahmadi products, its their right to do so. They voted on it and they decided on it…thats democracy for you. Don’t whine about it when you don’t like the results. Palestinians elected Hamas…..what do you think a truly democratic Pakistan would look like?

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  • Sadia
    Feb 13, 2012 - 4:01PM

    CJ, no suo moto?

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  • Worried
    Feb 13, 2012 - 4:01PM

    E T is promoting this Ban by displaying the Brand of the product

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  • Feb 13, 2012 - 4:04PM

    I’m still scratching my head over how it’s even constitutionally permissible to ban a certain product based on the manufacturer’s faith. Either LBA has gone completely renegade, or the government is finally upgrading its stance towards the Ahmadi community from “negligent” to “all-out hostile”.

    Verily, the cancer of fanaticism has successfully invaded our justice system.

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  • Shazia Shaheen
    Feb 13, 2012 - 4:22PM

    Suo moto action should be take by CJ against this insane, nonsensical act and banning of Shezan products. It is highly disgusting and all the lawyers should also boycott other Jewish, christian made products. this is not real and only picture of Pakistanis.

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  • Liberalache
    Feb 13, 2012 - 4:28PM

    ………………..@John B:

    Great work John…you should buy the footballs from China where 10 year old cancer stricken kids make them, or in India where they discriminate against Dalits (the crappy caste) and burn trains full of Muslims.

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  • Ali
    Feb 13, 2012 - 4:41PM

    @Indian:
    As if it is heaven for people living in India right? Put your house in order first and yes..Mind your own business.

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  • Anonymous
    Feb 13, 2012 - 4:55PM

    These same lawyers will be judges tomorrow and uphold all decisions. then will shout respect court verdicts. How ?
    I am positive that if this goes to court judges like sharif will uphold decision!!!!Recommend

  • mir
    Feb 13, 2012 - 4:57PM

    @Muhammed:
    if you have religious issue with ahmadis thats another matter why do you mix it with the products they make, you are taking their basic human rights to earn, live and do business as an independent citizen.

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  • R.A
    Feb 13, 2012 - 5:03PM

    I HOPE THE MULLAS DECLARE
    A BAN ON GOING TO RABWAH
    TO HOLD DEMONSTRATIONS
    AGAINST AHMADIS
    BUT I AM SURE THEY WILL NOT

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  • Feb 13, 2012 - 5:12PM

    @Muhammed:
    Who the hell on earth you are to declare someone a non-muslim. I am an ahmedi, but never much cared about brands as long as they are made in Pakistan. But from now onwards, I will not only prefer Shezan products, but also advise my non-ahmadi freinds to go for them. Not everyone in this land is sick.

    What a pathetic state! Mullahs and such lawyers will turn this land into a hell. the sooner this nation realises this fact, the better. Otherwise, the clock has already started tickeling!!

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  • Rahman
    Feb 13, 2012 - 5:17PM

    It is a slap on the face of those who are still in the state of denial about the discriminatory attitude of Pakistani Society in general. The majority may not be involved directly but their ‘silence’ is making them as guilty as the instigators. Don’t be very happy, very soon it will be Shias then Brailvis and God knows who else but the ultimate result is obvious. Absolutely, not a pretty future…. I am afraid from Allah’s wrath because Islam is being used for most of these unjust and biased actions.

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  • Rahman
    Feb 13, 2012 - 5:24PM

    @Liberalache:
    What a naive logic. Are you trying to justify this unjust action with the unjust acts of Chinese and Indians? Are they follower of Rahmantul Aalameen? Are they using Allah or Holy Prophet’s (S.A.W) name? Look at your pitiable logic, that’s how hatred and intolerance make someone logically impotent person.

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  • R.A
    Feb 13, 2012 - 5:30PM

    @Mir
    Pakistan is already there
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  • Rahman
    Feb 13, 2012 - 5:34PM

    @Loneliberal PK:
    ” Verily, the cancer of fanaticism has successfully invaded our justice system.”
    Not only our justice system but most of the intelligencia, academia, bureaucracy, and media.

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  • majid
    Feb 13, 2012 - 5:35PM

    disgusting

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  • Sajjad Ashraf
    Feb 13, 2012 - 5:43PM

    As a Pakistani, I am ashamed to note the depth of bigotory to which some of my countrymen have gone down to.

    I want to first question the honorable lawyers supposedly defenders of law that where in Islam such acts are encouraged. The Prophet of Islam traded with non-Muslims.

    Second, who has given the right to a man to call anyone a Kafir of non-Muslim when a person claims to be a Muslim.

    Islam is the name of good deeds. A good, caring person is a Muslim and not vice versa.

    Action like banning Shezan is just cheap tactics. You do not make Pakistan strong by alienating your own people.

    Remember Maulana Azad who said in his last Juma Khutba before August 14, warning the Pakistani Muslims – Aay Musalmano Tum Aaapas Mein Laro Gay.

    As a Pakistani, I resolve to to ONLY USE SHEZAN, which I am proud has a long history of service to this country.

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  • Shayan
    Feb 13, 2012 - 5:52PM

    Shezan juice sucks anyways.

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  • Ahmee
    Feb 13, 2012 - 5:57PM

    Crap…Making Mockery of Law…No wonder why my beloved Motherland PAKISTAN is going down ways when the holders of law act in such UN-natural and UN-lawful manner…Keep on doing so and you shall be washed away for the face of the earth as the land will live but you will not and you would be replaced by better people as ALLAH promise and what ALLAH promises is not abatable.

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  • athar
    Feb 13, 2012 - 6:16PM

    Chief justice should take a sou motto notice of this blatant discrimination and injustice with their fellows pakistanies.lets see the echo of my and my fellows cry.

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  • Feb 13, 2012 - 6:23PM

    @Kashif Ali:

    Stupid answer. Shame on you people. You are hundred percent dependent on European adn north american products. More over as a nation every person is under the loan of these country. Why you beg. Every second thing in your house is from these countries. So should you burnt your own home Recommend

  • Shahid
    Feb 13, 2012 - 6:29PM

    These socalled lawyers [blot for the legal fraternity of the world ] should also stop breathing because the air you breath has passed through the nostrils and lungs of Ahmedis and animals such as pigs also.

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  • Ali S
    Feb 13, 2012 - 6:44PM

    These so-called educated people should be ashamed of themselves. I wish I could find a list of Ahmadi-owned products so I could by them in bulk just to stick it to this ridiculous apartheid-like law.

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  • sars
    Feb 13, 2012 - 6:53PM

    You guys should use only one product made by others, contraceptives, so the next generation will hopefully have some brains.

    Am typing this sipping shezan juice , (which will make your teeth rot, and contribute towards diabetes but a point has to be made!!!!).

    Please also provide us a list of minority owned companies , so we can support all of them.
    They appear to be better humans than our vast majority.

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  • Adnan
    Feb 13, 2012 - 6:59PM

    Blasphemous juices eh? What’s next?

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  • Menon
    Feb 13, 2012 - 7:01PM

    @Shahzad:

    You said right, “the so called educated section of our society”, indeed, so called but not really educated are they?

    How is country ever going to improve with blatant discrimination? Never.Until Pakistan amends its constitution and gives equal rights to everyone living within its territory, nothing will change. It is not going to happen because there aren’t any visionary leaders that can move the nation out of its failed ways. Those who can left the country and doing quite well elsewhere.

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  • Menon
    Feb 13, 2012 - 7:05PM

    @bob:

    Pepsi is CEO is an Indian women at that. How about that?

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  • Ahsan Jahangir
    Feb 13, 2012 - 7:11PM

    @Indian:
    i think you should take care of the violations of human rights in India, India is the largest country with child prostitution, what you do to the shudars is not hidden from anyone. Don’t pretend as if you don’t know whats happening there.
    The discrimination with Ahmadis cannot be justified and should be stopped but the ‘indians’ are not invited here.Recommend

  • Oumayer
    Feb 13, 2012 - 7:19PM

    The Lawyers sould also ban Jewish & American made items in Use here in Pakistan.
    eg: almost everything !!

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  • bob
    Feb 13, 2012 - 7:38PM

    wow.. a lot of people recommended my post.. thanks guys

    @ memon.. thanks for the insight.. :)

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  • Doosam
    Feb 13, 2012 - 7:43PM

    This is a real issue concerning the lives and livelihoods of hundreds of thousands. I wonder why Kaptaan Khan is silent on the increasing persecution and injustice being perpetrated in the name of Islam against the Ahmadi community. I have high hopes of him as being the saviour of our country but why is he silent now?

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  • CL
    Feb 13, 2012 - 7:58PM

    Ahmedis: The most repressed minority in Pakistan. The holy, sacred, clean self-proclaimed Muslims have blown the mosques of Ahmedis, desecrated their graves and have usurped their rights. This has been going on since the creation of Pakistan… The hypocrisy is appalling!Recommend

  • Peaceman
    Feb 13, 2012 - 8:27PM

    So called educated people doing this to fellow citizens. Shame on all Pakistanis who are silent on this issue. God is watching and you will pay a heavy price for this discrimination.

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  • Cautious
    Feb 13, 2012 - 8:40PM

    Are these the same lawyers that lamented the passing of OBL, protested in favor of the blasphemy laws, celebrated the assassination of Taseer? No wonder the World has a poor opinion of Pakistan’s justice system. In most countries they would be disbarred for such actions.

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  • Nirmit
    Feb 13, 2012 - 8:40PM

    @Kashif Ali:
    and still surviving on US aids!!! isn’t it a shameful stand!!

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  • Nirmit
    Feb 13, 2012 - 8:43PM

    @Zarmeena Ahmed:
    nice jokes….all the lawers in Lahore bar Association are Indians!!! fantastic sense of humour…

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  • Nirmit
    Feb 13, 2012 - 8:48PM

    @Liberalache:
    “Burn trains full of Muslims”….will you correct yourself!!!

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  • neutral
    Feb 13, 2012 - 9:21PM

    For all of the poster commenting that the lawyers should also ban christian and jew owned products if they ban shehzan products are comparing apples to orange. Isa is recognized as a prophet, besides the christians and jews dont claim to be muslims, do they?
    Besides shehzan should be banned because its taste sucks!

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  • Farrukh
    Feb 13, 2012 - 9:26PM

    If that so, then BAN Nestle, Coke and all other multi-national company’s brands. Because they are produced by the Non-Muslims (jews,christians,hindus ,buddhist etc)…… Peace nd love, plz don’t spread hatred among other fellows. Be supportive and bring peace and harmony……. plz for god sake and don’t say anything bad to Ahmadi’s leaders, as u r not sure dat he’s the right person or not. First make some research nd then say whatevr u get frm the researches…. nd last thing

    RIZQ AUR MAUT DONO CHEEZEY ALLAH KE HAATH MEIN HAI, so u can’t destroy Shezan or their market… Haq pey rehney walo k saath ALLAH hota hai aur jhootho k saath tou unka apna akss bhi nhi hota.

    Jazak’allah khair
    Allah aap sab ko hadayat dey nd 1 more thing love all people frm watevr religion they belong, in the end they are the creation of Allah, so STOP abusing or beating Allah’s Creatures.

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  • smj
    Feb 13, 2012 - 9:31PM

    If Shezan is Ahmedi then Laziza is deobandi…:-)

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  • fazan
    Feb 13, 2012 - 9:36PM

    I am very ashamed on this reallly reallly really nonsense act Recommend

  • truth
    Feb 13, 2012 - 9:37PM

    what about makers of famous cheese and butter who live in Denmark…what about PEPSI and COKE….what about every medical equipment and all life saving medicines,…???
    what about all the goodies we use daily like mobiles, batteries , tv, cars and what not….all the stuff made by infidels, non beleivers ………..

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  • Ramanujam
    Feb 13, 2012 - 10:10PM

    Wow…Why only Ahmedis???Dont you guys hate jews,christians and hindus also??

    Ban all electronic products.Most of them were invented or manufactured by Jews and Christians..
    Ban all automobiles,most of their companies are owned by Jews and Christian
    Ban all MNC food products
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  • Danish
    Feb 13, 2012 - 10:36PM

    One word, disgusting. I will make sure next time I happen to buy any cold drink, it will be Shezan.

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  • Ramanujam
    Feb 13, 2012 - 10:36PM

    @Zarmeena Ahmed

    You are right….India is the main reason for the chaos in Pakistan…All we did was to separate the fertile East Pakistan to give a blow to your economy

    But thanks to your leaders like Bhutto and Zia Ul Haq,they decided to promote radical islam which is now slowly dragging your country to chaos

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  • the only rationalist left
    Feb 13, 2012 - 11:41PM

    Liberalache: Your logic and rationalism is spot on. John should choose lesser of two evils.

    Footballs made by consenting individuals in Pakistan or footballs made by cancer stricken 10 year old Chinese kids.

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  • the only rationalist left
    Feb 13, 2012 - 11:54PM

    Farrukh: your logic is flawed when you compare Sheezan with Coke and Nestle, whatever.

    Coke and Nestle are made by Jews/Atheists/Christians, none of these groups claim to be Muslims. Sheezan is made by Ahmadis who claim to be Muslims but are not according to Sunnis, they are classified as Munafiqs.

    Muslim Mullahs say that a Muslim can be friends with a kaafir but not with a munafiq. So your argument about coke etc and sheezan is really invalid.

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  • Dr Boodhun
    Feb 14, 2012 - 12:42AM

    Do not buy Shezan mango products if you don’t like it. Bannig it dirties your supposedly fair name. I would suggest that you go and buy heart medicine from … that Lahore company. They are not Ahmadi Muslims.

    Dr Boodhun/Canada

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  • Farrukh
    Feb 14, 2012 - 12:43AM

    @the only….

    but who has givn the Mullahs a right to say some1 a MUNAFIQ. God has not appointed them for this. I agree Jews and other religions didn’t claim to be Muslims,but they spokes bad words to our Religion, prophet and our GOD. They do SHIRK, but Ahmadi’s don’t. In my view, u just study first what Ahmadiyyat Actually is for your reference nd knowledge.. don’t hear what other says, believe only when u see that what actually u heard frm the peoples. Those who spread Hatreds can’t be the good or pious ppl…

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  • Zeesee
    Feb 14, 2012 - 12:46AM

    now wt else they wana do after it… they will not stop us… the true islam will spread in this world.. InshaAllah

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  • Umer
    Feb 14, 2012 - 1:00AM

    @the only rationalist left:
    Coke and Nestle are made by Jews/Atheists/Christians, none of these groups claim to be Muslims. Sheezan is made by Ahmadis who claim
    to be Muslims but are not according to Sunnis, they are classified as Munafiqs.

    So you can declare anyone anything arbitrarily and then start punishing them for that? Where is the legality in it? Pakistanis law has a lot of absurdities including against Ahmadis but this is not part of it. So the whole thing has no legal basis and is simply a reflection of the bigotry of those who are involved in it and their supporters like you.Recommend

  • shiasishia
    Feb 14, 2012 - 1:02AM

    We invite Ahmedis and other persecuted people in joining hands with us to fight this menace called Wahabi islam affecting our beloved country Pakistan.
    United we stand divided they fall.
    Minorities of Pakistan will fight till their last breathe.Recommend

  • Umer
    Feb 14, 2012 - 1:06AM

    @the only rationalist left:

    Footballs made by consenting
    individuals in Pakistan or footballs
    made by cancer stricken 10 year old
    Chinese kids.

    China is your best friend. How can you stab your best friend in the back like this?

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  • Sobriquet
    Feb 14, 2012 - 1:15AM

    @Amira: Mark Twain famously said that he never let his schooling interfere with his education. In Pakistan, on the other hand, many of the so called educated attend schools without getting educated.

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  • Liberalache
    Feb 14, 2012 - 1:22AM

    All those whining about the rights of Ahmadis should do a google search on what Ahmadis say about the other Muslim sects then talk about tolerance. They refer to the rest of us as Kuffar-e-Makkah and so on. There is plenty of Ahmadi hate literature so don’t consider them angels just because they’re the underdogs. Truth of the matter is that they’d be just as intolerant if not more if they were the majority….just look at their literature and their forums on the net and judge for yourself. I have absolutely NO SYMPATHY for them

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  • MS-Mariya Suhail
    Feb 14, 2012 - 1:30AM

    Save Pakistan by
    1)Sign below petition

    http://www.change.org/petitions/chief-justice-of-pakistan-iftikhar-muhammad-chaudhry-stop-discrimination-repeal-lba-ban-of-shezan-mango-juice

    2) Make sure you buy Shezan juice everyday till the ban is over to show love for pakistani company.

    3) Save Shezan juice DABA so to be used to make banners.

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  • Feb 14, 2012 - 2:36AM

    the reason the juice is banned because they use this money to convert ignorant people in Pakistan and abroad. Jews and Christains are a different thing. They are open enemies while Qadiynai stab us in back.
    they get asylum in western countries on grounds that they are being killed and persecuted in Pakistan. while in reality i have not seen a single person being killed on these grounds. in this way they further spoil the image of Pakistan. I personally know a Shia man who is living Rawalpindi who went to Germany on these grounds and tried to get nationality. While he is living normal people here without any persecution. Anyone who loves Pakistan can’t tolerate this.
    It is a reality that jews support Qadiynai community in Pakistan.
    When “liberal” international community never helped Pakistani products but they help Qadiyanis. The recent evidence is the success of Gourmet Cola. They have helped to reach same standers as Pepsi and Coke in Pakistan but they never helped Amrat Cola, even Amrat had much bigger distribution network, marketing and everything else. Later Pepsi bought Amrat. If you have read the book “Confessions of an Economic Hitman by Jhon Perkins” then u can clearly see the discrimination. These multinationals never let any competitor survive in market and do everything to remove them from competition. While they support Shezan and Amrat clearly shows that how they help Qadiyanis while was the suppress Muslims. The same was done to BCCI bank. They closed the fifth largest bank in the world just because it was owned my Middle East Muslims and Loyal Pakistani Agha Hasan Abidi. I am fed up of this hypocrisy.

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  • Aamir Sohail
    Feb 14, 2012 - 2:38AM

    @Zarmeena Ahmed: Sorry to say but you are wrong because if I give ask you to jump from Minaar e Pakistan and you do that than who’s fault will it be? Although I advised you but it is you who are acting without thinking with your mind….. The fact is it is these mullahs who are making Pakistan miserable and these mullahs where also against the making of Pakistan. If India is behind all this than sorry to say they are using our mullahs and Islam to destroy us. So be brave and blame the one who deserve…..

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  • Shamim Malik
    Feb 14, 2012 - 4:38AM

    Utterly shameful act by the same biggots who honored the murderer of Salman Tehseer and continue persecuting all minorities. These so called lawyers, who are supposed to defend the innocent and seek justice, are instead promoting injustice, inequality and harassment. They are a disgrace to their profession and should be disbarred.

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  • Liberalache
    Feb 14, 2012 - 8:21AM

    @MS-Mariya Suhail:

    Yes please make it a widely known public issue and lets see how well it goes. Make a list of Ahmadi owned products and please get your liberal friends to promote them. While you generate awareness as to which products are Ahmadi, the majority will boycott those very products precisely because YOU made them aware that they are Ahmadi owned. You live in Pakistan….why don’t you liberals get that?Recommend

  • Turth Seeker
    Feb 14, 2012 - 9:18AM

    @John B:

    ” What these lawyers are doing is institutional discrimination and apartheid and until I hear otherwise I will boycott the products and produce from Pakistan.”

    Couldn’t agree more with you on this issue, though more often than not I disagreed with your opinion. I am totally at loss to understand what kind of medieval people they are. Are they even people?

    Shouldn’t LBA have also banned the products invented or manufactured by Jews, Hindus, and Christians in the same go – who they also vociferously blame for inflicting all the atrocities upon Muslims. Or, just because without these products they, perhaps, cannot live for a minute, so it is wise to spare them. And because Ahmadis cannot harm them, so it is ok to do whatever they like to do with them.

    Human prejudices at its highest or human dignity at its lowest? Your pick.

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  • Sayyed Mehdi
    Feb 14, 2012 - 9:18AM

    I’ve switched to drinking Shezan after lunch.

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  • Truth Seeker
    Feb 14, 2012 - 11:21AM

    @the only rationalist left:

    “they are classified as Munafiqs. …… Muslim Mullahs say that a Muslim can be friends with a kaafir but not with a munafiq.”

    Now the Mullahs will decided who is right (Momin) or wrong (Munaafiq) instead of God, the almighty. Recommend

  • Feb 14, 2012 - 12:11PM

    @Sayyed Mehdi:
    Plz make a list of all such products so that we can promote them. thanks

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  • Usman
    Feb 14, 2012 - 12:44PM

    It takes so much courage to take suo moto action in favour of Ahmadis since the islamic extremist will not allow any type of such action by CJ. If CJ takes action, I beleive this will be a new era for Pakistan.

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  • Umer
    Feb 14, 2012 - 1:07PM

    If the LBA’s reason for banning Shezan is that it’s owned by Ahmedis, would they have refused to accept the Pakistan Resolution drafted by Sir Zafarullah Khan in 1940 – after all, he was an Ahmedi too.

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  • Umer
    Feb 14, 2012 - 1:23PM

    @Truth Exposed:

    the reason the juice is banned because
    they use this money to convert
    ignorant people in Pakistan and
    abroad. Jews and Christains are a
    different thing.

    Actually the real reason is that aid is coming from Christians and Jews; so as long as dollars are coming Jews and Christians are OK.

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  • Feb 14, 2012 - 2:41PM

    @Nirmit:
    that was a reply to INDIAN., first read his comments then mine…i didn’t say these lawyers are indians i just said INDIA is behind the chaotic situation in pakistan…india is supporting the terrorist activities in pakistan whether its in BAlochistan or in north and south waziristan …

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  • Junaid
    Feb 14, 2012 - 2:48PM

    Hypocrisy at its best.

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  • Anonymous
    Feb 14, 2012 - 3:46PM

    @Liberalache:
    “You live in Pakistan….why don’t you liberals get that?”
    Is being born in Pakistan such a crime?

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  • ahmad
    Feb 14, 2012 - 4:05PM

    Prophet (PBUH) used to trade with non-muslims. Sulah-e-Hubhabia was made with non-believers of Mecca. Pakistani Government begging trade with rest of the world. To India we have granted ‘Most Favoured Nation’. All high-ups of religious parties travel in foreign made cars. Whom these idiots are making fool. Garlanding Mumtaz Qadri & boycotting Shezan products – you should ashamed of yourself and where is the media, the judiciary and so called civil society. Why not you boycotted American products when they attacked Osma Bil Ladin in Abbottabad. Why you are not boycotting Danish products on making Prophet (PBUH) cartons. Recommend

  • huzaifa
    Feb 14, 2012 - 4:22PM

    @Truth Exposed:
    The CHANKIYA the hindu self claimed strategist said and i quote” Lie,Lie and lie so many times that it becomes truth”.
    YOU said “they get asylum in western countries on grounds that they are being killed and persecuted in Pakistan. while in reality i have not seen a single person being killed on these grounds” Dear LIAR EXPOSED when whole world saw attacks on AHMADI mosques on 28th MAY 2009 YOU MUST BE SLEEPING.
    YOU SAID “It is a reality that jews support Qadiynai community in Pakistan,” HOW, if i blame you that you are a uneducated, wild, liar will it be all right”.
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  • lawyer
    Feb 14, 2012 - 5:38PM

    only said that by discriminating ahmadies product we are giving message to them that ahmedies won and muslims loose. ahmedies products are more authentic then others. there success is very near and pakistani muslims will see their future very near which is very bad unfortunately due to their own such type of acts.

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  • RM
    Feb 14, 2012 - 5:46PM

    The fact of the matter is Ahmadis have risen to positions of power and actively prevent non Ahmadis from reaching senior posts within organizations in Pakistan and around the world. Try getting a senior job in any of the telecoms or banks or other major organizations in Pakistan. Try getting a residency program in the US without being an ahmadi..There is active discrimination and a stranglehold on top spots in companies, so next time someone has sympathy for Ahmadis, try applying for a job…anywhereRecommend

  • Ahmee
    Feb 14, 2012 - 5:57PM

    Debate Should be is it righteous to Ban Sheezan (which in fact is publicized by all this) and to me this is INSANSE

    Rather than

    Are Ahmedis Muslims or they are funded or they are agents or they are Munafiqs or they are turning innocent Muslims on a wrong path…

    I wonder how many here have the attestation authority to declare others Non-Muslims, Munafiq and so on…I Wonder ALLAH has given them this authority or they are are exercising ALLAH’s authority themselves…Alas…Please be at least HUMAN if not Muslim…

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  • sashayub
    Feb 14, 2012 - 7:09PM

    their loss…i love juices and squashes by Shezan, have lots stored at home, and i’m a lawyer…………..hun kar lo jo karna ai ;)

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  • Ahmee
    Feb 14, 2012 - 7:23PM

    Please don’t take sheezan, their drinks have some kind of recipe that can infect your neuronics and you can become an Ahmedi…So avoid it…Neglect it…Dump it…If it still not pleases you Kill it…Constitution covers your insurance…

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  • Feb 14, 2012 - 8:11PM

    I salute John.B for his initiative….the others who import from Pakistan should follow as their
    products are manufactured by a minority int his world of six billion people and according to the doctrine of the Pakistan and Egyptian Mullahs the minorities have no right to exist. This is
    what Osama bin Ladin preached them and now Mullah Omar stands for. Pakistanis do not
    realise they are digging their own grave. One day all these depressed minorities will riseRecommend

  • T R Khan
    Feb 14, 2012 - 9:09PM

    Shezan Juices should donate some money to the Lahore Bar Association for all this publicity.

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  • Imtiaz
    Feb 14, 2012 - 9:11PM

    Many thanks on behalf of Shezan and other such product manufacturers, they wont have to spend a dime on advertisement, this year at least….

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  • Tanya Baig
    Feb 14, 2012 - 9:17PM

    This bunch of idiots doesn’t know that whatever things they use in their day to day lives, all of them are either invented or manufactured by non-Muslims(kafirs). These hypocrites should also stop using electricity, internet, airplanes, cars, Tvs, phones, toothpastes, allopathic medicines, MRI/Ultra sound/X-ray machines and start living in Islamic stone-age. Because all of these things are either invented or manufactured by Jews or Christians or people of other faith(Kafirs). If this is the level of Pakistani educated mass, then Pakistan is certainly moving backward/p>Recommend

  • MChaudhry
    Feb 14, 2012 - 10:15PM

    If we extend the Lahore Bar Association logic, Pakistan should immediately stop all imports from non-Muslims nations and have a surplus trade balance. We can then fund poor nations through the IMF.

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  • JSM
    Feb 14, 2012 - 10:39PM

    When one reads this narrative and the fact that it recives support from society, it becomes clear that Paksitan has lost the batlle for existence without fighting it. Prejudices based on religion, culture do exist in societies but they do not take such extreme positions. And when they do take extreme positions, such socities annihilate themselves. Nazis versus Jews is not a very old example.

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  • Liberalache
    Feb 14, 2012 - 10:50PM

    Look at all the fuss by whiney liberals here at this forum…it looks like you people are not very comfortable with the idea of freedom of speech when exercised by people with diametrically opposite views. They are just as entitled to boycott Ahmadi products as you are to buy more of them…stop complaining

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  • Rizwan
    Feb 14, 2012 - 11:47PM

    @Kashif Ali:
    Kashif sahib. Just bear in mind that when the West starts boycotting Pakistani goods, there is going to be even more people out of work in Pakistan. More unemployment, more violence – some of which may be targetted at you. Someday you will realize the gravity of your naivety.

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  • Rahman Khan
    Feb 15, 2012 - 12:08AM

    If these so called “educated” segment can support the “alleged” murderer of Salman Taseer, need we still debate this subject?

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  • Aimal
    Feb 15, 2012 - 1:32AM

    @Liberalache: To cover the shame of your country you need not drag names of other countries. It does not help. Look at the most comments and you will know how the wind is blowing.

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  • AllahRukha
    Feb 15, 2012 - 1:53AM

    How ignorant of LBA if they don’t know that there are non-Ahmadis who work for Shezan.

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  • Lone Star
    Feb 15, 2012 - 2:24AM

    @huzaifa:
    It was 28th May 2010, why because I lost a friend and a few acquaintances in that massacre. Thanks for pointing that out, I know it fell on a useless rock thou.

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  • Feb 15, 2012 - 7:41AM

    If they’re banning Shezan then they should also BAN the use of Mercedes Vehicles in which they themselves aspire to ride. The same group that owns Shezan is the licensed importer for Mercedes in Pakistan since inception.

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  • Faraz
    Feb 15, 2012 - 10:30AM

    What next? clothes/shoes/cars/drinks/food anything/everything made by a particular sect for their sect! What they teach them in law schools? They are no less then Mullahs. I am glad I don’t live in that country, nor would I want my kids to grow up with such hatred. Love and peace for all especially to the minorities back home. As somebody said buy Shezan with a vengeance now. Moderate Pakistan and my fellow Pakistanis, time to teach these extremists a lesson now.

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  • AM
    Feb 15, 2012 - 6:13PM

    @RM:
    Wake up, dear friend, there is no Ahmedi in power, their promotions in Government sectors are stopped, they are subjected to discrimination within the organizations to make them resign. And eventually they flee. And BTW, don’t blame Ahmedi’s for your low scores in steps, buddy….Recommend

  • Hina
    Feb 15, 2012 - 8:48PM

    Also , why don’t we ban Mercedes too ? And what about the onions that Pakistan imports from India , ban that too ! How about banning every single product in Pakistan as claimed by world nations that Pakistan can’t even produce a needle till now . Totally disgusting and illiterate approach . No wonder this country is how it is today ! Rotay hun ge Quaid e Azam kia kar gaye . Recommend

  • Salam Bombay
    Feb 16, 2012 - 12:38AM

    @Ali Khan: “is all well in India? No killing of Muslims, Christians, Sikhs and low caste? “<
    In India even Hindus are killed and who said low caste do not have Hindus ? Why is this blind presumptions in Pakistan about low caste in India ? The killings in our nations is not discriminatory when it comes to killing, act of violence does not ask someone's religion before it kills. By the way this article is not about killing but basic rights to perform and India does not have any discriminatory law or litigation to oppress minority. In fact it burns you guys to know that we have aggregated 60 % reservation quota for muslims and other classes in public and private sectors. Speaks more about our tolerance and secularism. In your country muslims kills muslims in name of sect shia, sunni, ahmadi …….so please do not dare to defend your disgusting act by pointing on other's short comings. Recommend

  • Tuba
    Feb 16, 2012 - 11:50AM

    @John B:
    Now that’s what I’m talking about!

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  • khan of quetta
    Feb 16, 2012 - 1:14PM

    i liked shezan i hope they dont shut down because nestle is expensive

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  • Muneeb
    Feb 16, 2012 - 7:24PM

    @Saleem Ahmad:
    good

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  • wardah
    Feb 19, 2012 - 4:37PM

    utterly disgusting!!!when there is a need for collective reinforcement .these people are just drawing lines,causing hatred to bloom within communities;..first it was jews,christians now this!what the hell are they aiming at!

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  • Arif Mahmud
    Feb 29, 2012 - 2:51AM

    No wonder! They are the same bunch who showered petals on Mumtaz Qadri, the murderer. Shame on all these so called Lawyers…….

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  • Ahmad
    Mar 3, 2012 - 1:15PM

    Such acts done with o wistom in these will do no good to Islam.

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  • Apr 11, 2012 - 5:10AM

    It’s when I read stuff like this I’m glad that I don’t live in Pakistan where people don’t respect human rights.Recommend

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