Three Shia lawyers shot dead near Karachi City Court

Published: January 25, 2012

KARACHI: Three lawyers died and one was critically injured in a firing incident near the City Court in the Pakistan Chowk area of Karachi, reported Express News on Wednesday.

SSP Naeem Sheikh said that four suspects on two motorcycles opened fired at the lawyers’ car. He added that the incident was apparently one of sectarian violence as the lawyers belonged to the Shia sect. However, the police said that it can only be confirmed after the investigations whether the incident was sectarian in nature or not.

Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) leader Sharmila Farooqi said the sectarian aspect of the killing cannot be ignored however declaring it target killing this early would be incorrect.

Express News reported that the victims, Badar Munir Jafri, Shakeel Jafri and Kafeel Jafri, were heading back to their homes from the court when their car was attacked by the killers.

SP Clifton said that the motorcyclists blocked the car and fired at it from the front. At least 15 holes were found in the car apparently of 9mm gunshots.

The incident left all the four victims injured, out of which three died on their way to the hospital. They all belonged to the same family.

The injured lawyer, Babar Ali is being treated at the Civil Hospital and is out of danger according to the doctors. Police is likely to record his statements tonight or tomorrow morning.

The police cordoned off the area and is carrying an investigation into the matter.

Investigation

Sindh High Court Chief Justice Mushir Alam took notice of the killings and asked IG Sindh Syed Mushtaq Shah and the lawyers’ representatives to appear in the court tomorrow.

While on the other hand, IG Sindh has constituted two teams to investigate the matter, which would be headed by SSP Sheikh. The teams would comprise of SSP Tariq Dharejo, SSP Niaz Ahmed Khosa and SSP Shahjahan Khan.

Sindh Home Minister Manzoor Wassan also responded to the incident and suspended station house officer (SHO) Arambagh.

Wassan, while speaking to Express News expressed solidarity with the lawyers’ community and asked them to stay calm.

Karachi Bar Association has given a strike call for Thursday, whereas Pakistan Bar Council has announced a countrywide protest.

Altaf Hussain expresses sorrow

Muttahida Qaumi Movement chief (MQM) Altaf Hussain expressed grief and sorrow over the killing, calling it a planned activity.

In a statement released from London, Hussain said that some elements were trying to disturb the peace of the city.

The MQM chief also requested religious leaders and general public to be patient.

At least six people have been killed in 24 hours in separate incidents of target killings. One Ahle Sunnat wal Jammat’s legal adviser and a party activist were shot dead in the Old City area on Tuesday.

Correction: In an earlier version of this article, SSP Naeem Sheikh was erroneously referred to as SSP Tariq Dharejo.  The correction has been made.  

Reader Comments (98)

  • Khawaja Faraz
    Jan 25, 2012 - 4:06PM

    5mm Calibre….kidding?

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  • abdul moiz
    Jan 25, 2012 - 4:08PM

    yesterday lawyers of one community were killed and today the those of the other sect have been killed.if these ppl keep on killing the ppl of each other’s sects,then where will that lead our country?

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  • Syed Fahad Ali
    Jan 25, 2012 - 4:51PM

    Its SSP Naeem Sheikh, Not SSP Tariq Dharejo

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  • Roflcopter
    Jan 25, 2012 - 5:12PM

    So you assume it was a sectarian attack because victims just happened to be shia?

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  • RAZA
    Jan 25, 2012 - 5:14PM

    After Shaheed Askari Raza – another attempt on Shia Lawyers.

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  • Reasoner
    Jan 25, 2012 - 5:18PM

    @Roflcopter:

    Being Shia is a very big crime in Pakistan …… I have no doubt that its a sectarian attack !

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  • FJ
    Jan 25, 2012 - 5:18PM

    Thank you ET for updating the news!

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  • FJ
    Jan 25, 2012 - 5:18PM

    @Roflcopter:
    YES. Is there any doubt in your mind?

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  • Ali Azad
    Jan 25, 2012 - 5:21PM

    it is such an irresponsible on part of the SSP to pass such a statement that it was a sectarian incident without any proper investigation. These are the lawyers who died. Why do we have to bring in religion every where. It is an unfortunate event but responsible authorities and the society should start taking things beyond the scope of religious sects. Three Pakistanis died. Three innocent men lost their lives which should not be happening at any cost. That is it. No shia no sunni or ahmedi died. Value of life of every human being is equal and every person loosing his life in Pakistan should be deal in this very sense.

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  • Roflcopter
    Jan 25, 2012 - 5:25PM

    Yes I do have doubt, wait for the investigation before jumping to conclusions.

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  • Shahid Ashraf
    Jan 25, 2012 - 5:30PM

    Too bad and too sad! :-(

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  • mind control
    Jan 25, 2012 - 5:31PM

    @Roflcopter

    So you assume it was a sectarian attack because victims just happened to be shia?

    Can you give any other reasons please? Oh, I forgot, There was no OBL and There are no Lawyers.

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  • Practical
    Jan 25, 2012 - 5:34PM

    Stop fooling your selves guys. It was indeed a secterian violence. Hello it’s Karachi we live in!! Yesterday a lawyer from ASWJ was killed, and today 3 from shia killed..is it too difficult to figure out the puzzle?

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  • Jan 25, 2012 - 5:42PM

    Shias have been targeted since late 80′s. It does not acquire any rocket science to conclude that this was an act of sectarian killing. Period.

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  • maryum
    Jan 25, 2012 - 5:50PM

    I am in shocked… i am sure Pakistan will be Doctor, Lawyer FREE Country very soon:(

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  • Jeedo
    Jan 25, 2012 - 5:53PM

    What a nonsense article…..SHIA killed… why not say a lawyer killed, or a left-handed person killed, or say a middle aged person killed….why bring sects into everything?

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  • Jan 25, 2012 - 5:55PM

    ASWJ are a charity known for their faith and dedication to Islam…lets not get irrational here and think for a sec…may be these Shias were legally supporting terrorists who were killing pious innocent sunnis…which is wrong as these terroists deserve strict punishment…so in a way these Shias were supporting terror…may be…let us think these angles too before making martyrs of anyoneRecommend

  • sunny
    Jan 25, 2012 - 5:55PM

    Sectarian killing. obviouslly.
    why not religious leaders of all sects sit togather and try to stamp out difference, if there is any. what the government is doing?? so obsessed with SC cases????

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  • Truth From Pakistan
    Jan 25, 2012 - 5:55PM

    Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi rajeoon. Murder in the name of God or murder due to enmity????? Both unacceptable ! May Allah grant families sabr and departed souls best place in junnah. Aameen.

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  • BS.Detecter
    Jan 25, 2012 - 5:55PM

    @Reasoner:
    Shias live in Pakistan with much more liberty than anywhere else

    Go on try out Shiaism in Saudi Arabia and Sunnism in Iran

    Stop complaining about about everything and do something positive which infact helps

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  • Lord
    Jan 25, 2012 - 6:09PM

    Go for the root cause. only then this will stop.stop gulf aid to these killers only then this can be stopped.Otherwise prepare for civil war.

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  • Ali Tanoli
    Jan 25, 2012 - 6:14PM

    What a shame. i think solution for this madness is just killed the crimnals with there own guns.

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  • shadi
    Jan 25, 2012 - 6:16PM

    @BS.Detector
    okay all u people who say that iran is anti sunni! give me one article! one report by any independent HR group where any minority in iran has been targeted! there are JEWS in iran that live with freedom and have a quota of seats in their national assembly! this fasion of killing minorities in pakistan was introduced by zia ul haq and is still carried today! in early 90s it was the shia doctors that were targeted and now lawyers..such a shame

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  • Realist.
    Jan 25, 2012 - 6:17PM

    SHIA! right?
    could’ve been reported without mentioning their sect!
    What a MASALA news!

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  • Umer
    Jan 25, 2012 - 6:20PM

    @Aqeel Ahmed:

    ASWJ are a charity known for their
    faith and dedication to Islam

    Only to their own supporters. For the rest of us they are Sipah-e-Sahaba, the banned anti-Shia outfit. The reason they are banned suggests they were involved in nefarious activities in state’s opinion.

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  • Mohammad Ali Siddiqui
    Jan 25, 2012 - 6:26PM

    We all are Pakistanis, no matter who is Sunni, Shia, Doebani, Barelvi etc.

    Killing of innocent peopole in any sect, faith whether it is Islam, Christanity or any other religion of the world is prohibited.

    The killers should be severly punbished by the law of the country.

    May Al-Mighty Allah rest their souls in peace. Ameen.

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  • raj
    Jan 25, 2012 - 6:26PM

    Why you dominant the word ‘Shia’ in heading?

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  • God Delusion
    Jan 25, 2012 - 6:40PM

    Religion divides people. It creates semblance of peace to protect the veil of violence. Organised religion needs to be buried.

    I don’t understand why ET does not publish the voices of atheist. They have contributed most to the society. Atheist like Einstien , Stephen hawking , Darwin , Richard dawkins, christopher hitchens have contributed more to the society than mullahs,clergies,popes,priests etc.

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  • Zohaib
    Jan 25, 2012 - 6:41PM

    I didn’t get the point of writing SHIA aren’t they Muslim or paki’s, did their blood color differ from others ?? Whats the point behind elaborating shia’s ?? Why don’t you write SUNI killed when other guys get killed? Whats the point ?

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  • mentelisco
    Jan 25, 2012 - 6:41PM

    Using the word Shia in a headline is very inflammatory. No one is sure why this happend yet the first conclusion is sect attack. Its a very old trick to cause problem in Pakistan.

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  • antanu g
    Jan 25, 2012 - 6:44PM

    its sad and deplorable act.

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  • M. R@fique Zakaria
    Jan 25, 2012 - 6:50PM

    For God’s sake stop calling Shia & Sunni to each other. Our Allah and our Prophet are same. Why the editor of Tribune chose to use the word Shia in heading is anybody’s guess.? We all must be upset on killings, no matter who.

    M. R@fique Zakaria
    Karachi.

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  • Err
    Jan 25, 2012 - 7:14PM

    @God Delusion
    Yes thank you for naming your token atheists. Einstein gave us the atom bomb (worked on the same team as the Manhattan Project which went on to give humanity the gift of Hiroshima and Nagasaki) and well hitchens he was a fanatic advocate of the Iraq War (ironically the same side as evangelicals) moral of the story: atheists are human beings after all and capable of the same evil and problems that the rest of us.
    Weak case!

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  • Noise
    Jan 25, 2012 - 7:17PM

    @Zohaib
    Thats because reason they were targeted is because they were Shias. But you are free to live in denial all you want.

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  • Ali Tanoli
    Jan 25, 2012 - 7:23PM

    Err
    Jews never ever be a athiest they are more religous than any one can imagines.

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  • BS.Detecter
    Jan 25, 2012 - 7:26PM

    @shadi:
    Do you know there no Sunni mosque in tehran (largest city)
    force conversions of sunnis to shiasm

    i’ll dig them for you

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  • antony
    Jan 25, 2012 - 7:34PM

    @Err, Albert einstein contribution to the world is more than the entire mullah’s of 20th century. E=MC”2 .. If science is not your area please dont bring great contributors name as because of them you are enjoying many scientific benefits blissfully unaware of it.Recommend

  • Anon
    Jan 25, 2012 - 7:39PM

    I think most commenters agree that ET is jumping the gun to spice up the sectarian aspect of the killing. Seriously ET not professional at ALL!!!

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  • Hate Pakistani Politicians
    Jan 25, 2012 - 7:43PM

    @BS.Detecter:

    No Mr. you are wrong tese single or few cases can occur any where in the world. On the whole Iran is not at all anti sunni ar against any religion. Any body can practice their religion in Iran. Unlike Sausdi Arabia where doesnt allow any one to practice their own religion.

    Dont compare the freedom, human right, right to practice religion and the belief in Islam with that of SaudisRecommend

  • Adil
    Jan 25, 2012 - 7:45PM

    @BS DETECTOR

    1, In fact shias live in peace and prosperity pretty much every where on the globe EXCEPT in Sunni majority countries.

    2, if you are going to compare your country with any other, choose the best examples not the worst (even if the truth is inconvenient)

    3, stop apologizing for extremists who really are the sworn enemies of shias, and by extension, yours.

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  • Ali Tanoli
    Jan 25, 2012 - 7:47PM

    @antony
    Muslim sciencists are the reason today Europe on this place read there books it was Baghdad
    and Muslim spain Qurtaba for all this success and Heroshima and Nagasaki is a grat shame
    for christian world and yes Hitler too when more twenty millions innocent humans died.Recommend

  • FJ
    Jan 25, 2012 - 7:51PM

    @BS.Detecter:
    I digged this for you :D

    The Fasiq Fitna mongers keep on coming with every type of false accusations in order to incite hatred among the Muslim Ummah. While Allah (swt) says to esquire if any Fasiq brings you a news. The reality is:

    1.There are totally 70000 Mosques in Iran.
    2.While 10000 of them are from Ahle-Sunnah Brothers and Sunni Imams lead their the prayers.
    3.This means, for every 500 Sunnies there is one Mosque in Iran, while for 1100 Shias there is only one mosque.
    Iranian Law states, there is no Shia Mosque or Sunni Mosque, but all Mosques are Houses of Allah. The areas where Sunnies are in majority, there Shias are not allowed to make their separate mosques, but to go and pray behind the Sunni Imam and vice versa. It may be in some areas there is corruption and deviation from this Rule, but where in world things are 100% corruption free? In general Shias have absolutely no Problems in praying behind Sunni Imams in Iran and Vice Versa.Recommend

  • Err
    Jan 25, 2012 - 7:54PM

    @antony
    Yes thank you for that token E=MC2 answer. Is that your best defence of Einstein? Hit someone in the head with a formula as an all encompassing statement in itself? It would be redundant of me to to say how much Einstein contributed to science because it’s obvious. My comment was a rhetorical response to someone which you clearly failed to see.
    His contribution to nuclear physics which led to the creation of the first atom bomb and ushered in the period of nuclear age through the tragedies of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is something Einstein HIMSELF regretted as a legacy that would be attached to him.
    So please science is as much capable of advancing destruction and misery as it is capable of bringing benefits.

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  • harish
    Jan 25, 2012 - 7:59PM

    @ BS detector :
    “Shias live in Pakistan with much more liberty than anywhere else
    Go on try out Shiaism in Saudi Arabia and Sunnism in Iran”

    U do have great role models to compare with, i congratulate you!

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  • mentelisco
    Jan 25, 2012 - 8:00PM

    God Delusion: you are from the same line of mullahs and pastor, trying to preach atheism on the basis of scientists,out of who all professed wars, took sides, worked for the armies, developed weaponry etc. so my friend this is a human attribute, STOP Preaching Atheism!

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  • mentelisco
    Jan 25, 2012 - 8:05PM

    @shadi: any idea about life of sunnis in iran! i guess no! any idea about number of sunni mosques! and what syrian shia leaders are doing to the population!
    We have a govt that is has most of shias in power, we have equal opportunities for shias in any field. quit whining about it!

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  • ZedEm
    Jan 25, 2012 - 8:05PM

    I am also of the opinion that the headline should not carry the words “Shia Lawyers”. That is obviousely a sectarian incident but still we needs to be responsible. I agree with one of the commentators who termed it as MASALA news and that is true. Media being one of the main pillar of the state or society should act responsibly and be cautious while using any such provocative words or terminoligies

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  • Concerned
    Jan 25, 2012 - 8:07PM

    An Unacceptable Head line.”3 Shia Lawyer Killed”… Dear Editor, Why labelling it with sect before any investigation done. Why not condon the killing of innocent people by and large by everyone?.
    This news paper didn’t say same thing in yesterday’s new when one lawyer of other sect was murdered. Plz dont publish Hatred among muslims od this Country.

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  • Raja
    Jan 25, 2012 - 8:11PM

    While it is too early to conclude if the killing had sectarian objectives, some of us are getting unnecessarily rankled because of the mention of ‘Shia’ in the article. The response (as well as long term solutions ) of the society will be differrent depending on “3 men shot”, “3 lawyers shot”, “3 muslims shot” or “3 shias shot”. Some media outfits may choose not to mention the religion or sect or anyother aspect that could be a factor in a violent incident, but to be fair to their readers and provide a more wholesome news, almost all media outfits would at least include terms like ” religious” or “sectarian” or “political” incident

    But let us remember this: while the motive is unknown, it has been established that they are shias and that they were also lawyers. Both have been mentioned and in that respect, there is no falsehood in the article

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  • Humayun
    Jan 25, 2012 - 8:14PM

    It is really disappointing and whats more is that why do you mention the sect? ET now you are salting the injuries.I did watch this new on TV, so far i have not seen any channel describing their sect. ET get serious and be responsible please.

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  • Lobe
    Jan 25, 2012 - 8:17PM

    And pakistanis say minorities in India are persecuted.

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  • Uza Syed
    Jan 25, 2012 - 8:20PM

    Sad, very sad! Whosoever is behind these killings is an enemy of humanity, no an enemy of life itself a necrophile. This act of barbarism must be condemned and rejected by us all irrespective of whatever our beliefs and confessions are. This is terrorism and we must fight it together with all our might and determination. I’m not a Shia but I mourn this tragedy and I condemn the perpetrators and I sympathise with all those victims and their families and all who mourn them.

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  • Seriously Non-Serious
    Jan 25, 2012 - 8:30PM

    ppl having top comments here don’t know the ground reality…. (keeping Karachi in mind) Its definitely a sectarian act !!!

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  • Whats in the name
    Jan 25, 2012 - 8:41PM

    My analysis, Where ever there is no tolerance for minorities be it ethnic, religious, linguistic, gender, sectarian et al, there would never be peace, even if were to be, it would be for a short spell.
    Now explanation: when there is intolerance and violence against the above said minorities then the minorities are forced to migrate or become part of the majority out of fear or appeasement but violence would not die down, it would only grow bigger, and now from micro minority the violence would target the minority and finally to the minority within the majority. The worst case would be when the minority within the majority are targeted. then the point of no return would reach.
    Solution: No matter how easy or difficulty it is, better to promote non violence and peace.
    Rgds
    Whats in the name.

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  • MUNIB
    Jan 25, 2012 - 8:46PM

    The poison from IRAN and SAUDI ARAB is destroying PAKISTAN

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  • ZedEm
    Jan 25, 2012 - 8:48PM

    @Raja:
    Absolutely there is nothing wrong regarding objectivity of the news as for as “Shia” and “Lawyers” words are used but the comments were given for the media to highlight its responsibility in a society which is already engulfed in fire of sectarianism and avoid using any such mean which can further flare it up

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  • Adil
    Jan 25, 2012 - 8:50PM

    All those who are criticising ET for mentioning the term ‘shia’ in the headline, wake-up: this IS your Pakistan today. Extremists bent on slaughtering innocent people in the name of Islam are amongst us and they are out of control. By overlooking their crimes or saying that its not really ‘a question of sect’ isn’t good enough anymore. Shia of Pakistan would like you to stand up and be explicit about your condemnation of extremist groups and their sympathizers.Recommend

  • Err
    Jan 25, 2012 - 8:59PM

    @shadi, HatePakistaniPoliticians, Adil and FJ:
    It is the height of hypocrisy to say that Sunnis are not oppressed in Iran. There are well documented reports by Amnesty International, HRW and other international human rights reports on what is going there in Sistan and Baluchistan. Are you seriously denying the widespread reports of Sunni mosque Abu Hanifa being destroyed by authorities in 2011, or the extra judicial killings that have been carried out in Sistan and Baluchistan.My point is that yes more should be done to minorities, inlcuding shias in Pakistan, but for Shias to deny that Shia dominant countries do not oppress sunni minorities is not only HUGE hypocrisy it distances people from identifying with your plight if you dont extend the same sympathy to others in the same position. Honesty should go both ways otherwise like Paulo Friere once said, “The oppressed, instead of striving for liberation, tend themselves to become oppressors.”Recommend

  • AliRaza
    Jan 25, 2012 - 9:16PM

    Are the Shias of Pakistan ruling over Iran? Are the Shias of Pakistan responsible for what happens to Sunnis all over the world? Do Shias of Pakistan become less Pakistani for discrimination against Sunnis in Iran?

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  • mind control
    Jan 25, 2012 - 9:28PM

    A. Did someone notice that the killings have taken place in Pakistan and not Persia.So can we go easy on Iran please?

    B. And while at that, shouldn’t it be remembered that Pakistan was created as a homeland for all Muslims of India, Iran never claimed such exalted status.

    So, stop beating about the bush and start examining why a self proclaimed serial killer was not brought to justice by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

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  • FJ
    Jan 25, 2012 - 9:44PM

    @Err: How about Hizbullah saving sunnis from Israel?

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  • Err
    Jan 25, 2012 - 9:57PM

    @FJ
    What a dumb answer. Does that make what is happening in Iran ok? Please snap out of this victim complex that shias are not capable of violence. If anything both Iran and Hezbollah are being accused of helping Alevi Shias in Syria crush sunni protestors despite the fact that alevi shia there are in a minority!

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  • God Delusion
    Jan 25, 2012 - 10:10PM

    @Err:

    If Einstein gave you atom bomb, then by that logic he gave you mobile phones, GPS, laptops, computers etc… Pls don’t use it also..

    And with your logic all scientific researches should be banned bcoz they have bad consequences also ???

    How can a person hate Einstein?? I see no hope for humanity…

    I have heard that Taliban had banned music, tv etc but they did not ban radio. :))

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  • Cautious
    Jan 25, 2012 - 10:16PM

    I wonder whether Iran will close the border again in protest of Shia’s being targeted. Religious extremism is going to eventually consume Pakistan – fix it while you can.

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  • ahmed
    Jan 25, 2012 - 10:32PM

    @Reasoner
    The president and prime minister of Pakistan, both are Shia…….stop whining about your sect, in the last ten years, more barelvis have been killed and more sunni mosques have been bombed.

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  • Err
    Jan 25, 2012 - 10:47PM

    @God Delusion
    What a dumb answer. I clearly said science is capable of good AND bad. And I also clearly said that atheists are also capable of both good and bad. Can you atleast to back up your answer with substance instead of whining about humanity and Taliban. Christopher Hitchen one of the biggest atheism advocate was also a vocal war monger on Iraq, so no atheists are not the solution or the pacifists you claim they are.
    Also scientific achievement has nothing to do with religion which is a personal choice. Einstein’s geniousity has nothing to do with his atheism. If I use your logic then Einstein’s hero the great Isaac Newton was Anglican, so was Louis Pasteur, Edwin Hubble and Marie Curie practising christians who made outstanding achievements to science. The fathers of algebra, algorithm were Muslims. Some of the pioneering accomplishments in the field of astronomy, exploration and medicines have been Muslims. The first encyclopedia on surgery and inventions of surgery tools were by a Al-Zahrawi, Ibn Sina wrote the first encyclopedia on medicine.
    My point is scientific achievements have nothing to do with whether one is Christian, muslim or athiest. DO your homework before you make sweeping statements.
    Also the coffee you drink the first thing in the morning before you write such comments on ET – that great contribution to humanity was also discovered by Muslims.

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  • Iron hand
    Jan 25, 2012 - 11:06PM

    @BS.Detecter: “@Reasoner:
    Shias live in Pakistan with much more liberty than anywhere else”

    I think that’s the most incredible statement I’ve ever read on this blog. So Shias, who have been routinely murdered for BEING SHIA for many years in Pakistan, have more liberty than Shias in the US, UK, Australia, Germany, France, etc., etc., etc.? Astounding!!!!!!

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  • Jan 25, 2012 - 11:13PM

    Err,

    Actually, Oppenheimer gave us the atomic bomb. Blaming Einstein for nuclear weapons is like blaming Newton if you slip and fall down. He simply discovered and explained the principles of physics that led to the atomic bomb.

    Also, science is not capable of anything. Science is simply knowledge of how things work. A chemistry book doesn’t command you what to do with sulphuric acid and sodium bicarbonate. It only informs you how the two react when mixed.

    ..as opposed to holy books that command people what to do, who to despise, and who to kill. So the way they’re interpreted and the devotion with which they’re followed, can sometimes be a genuine cause for concern.

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  • Aimal
    Jan 25, 2012 - 11:16PM

    It was surely sectarian matter. No one has the right to kill human being because of the fact that he belongs to a different sect. Hatred to such an extend? Pakistan will never forge to development unless such matters are taken care of because people envy, they don’t like seeing one person belonging to a different sect on a higher possession.

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  • Err
    Jan 25, 2012 - 11:23PM

    @LoneliberalPK
    I actually said the same thing as you, if you read my comment above. The rest of my argument I am not going to bother, because you have an irrational hatred for religion and anything religion-related whether or not it has substance or any relevance to the topic (something a common theme in ALL your comments on ET). You are one of those who mock religion for the sake of it in itself. but you are entitled to your view. Goodnight mister!

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  • faraz
    Jan 25, 2012 - 11:38PM

    Self-righteous middle class gets offended by obvious facts because it bursts their pathetic myths about nation and ummah. It hurts when the balloon deflates so quickly.
    And the sectarian bias in the comments of some of the educated ones is just nauseating.

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  • s shah
    Jan 25, 2012 - 11:38PM

    Inna lillahi wa inna elahi rajaeoon. May Allah SWT grant them a place in Jannat Firdous and grant their families sabr. Ameen. This so sad. Three more innocents murdered. three more families devastated. Why is ASWJ being allowed to operate with impunity ? Recommend

  • Jawad U Rahman
    Jan 25, 2012 - 11:40PM

    I think it is more than just a coincidence that incidents like this start to happen days after Malik Ishaq of LeJ is set free. If our legal system cannot keep confessed murderers of 70+ people behind bars, we should not be surprised at incidents like this. May Allah bless the souls of those who died, give sabr to their families, and save Pakistan from the likes of Malik Ishaq.

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  • God Delusion
    Jan 25, 2012 - 11:45PM

    @Err:

    I can clearly see “hate” in your language used on this forum. People like you have given bad name to islam. your love for religion and hate for atheism clearly demonstrate your state of mind. :))

    I simply said what i had to say. No-one can deny the contribution of medieval islamic civilizaion in scientic discoveries. In-fact the so-called enlightenment in Europe was actually started by arabian scholors.

    But why most of the religious countries in modern days are backward in scientific achievement(includind saudi arabia and india+pak) because they did not follow their own ancestors and Europeans never looked back.

    Start living in the present realities and work for the future. past will never come.

    Future do not belong to organized religion. those who understand it, will progress.. learn from china.Go through Chinese websites. they never discuss religion.

    Your god may bless you and you may wait for him. But i will work hard to achieve what i want from my life bcoz i know there is no-one except me who would decide my destiny.

    And to those who are criticizing me for preaching atheism :- “Go to Hell” and i will meet you on the way.. ;)))

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  • Jan 25, 2012 - 11:52PM

    @Jeedo:

    What are the chances that all 3 lawyers were left handed and killed by some anti-left handed terrorist organization?!

    Their sect is mentioned because there’s a PRECEDENT and it’s RELEVANT in Pak news, their societal issues and criminal history and indeed the most likely MOTIVE, considering an ASWJ lawyer was killed yesterday.

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  • Jan 25, 2012 - 11:55PM

    @Aqeel Ahmed:

    ASWJ a charity organization?! Yea, as much as the Klu Klux Klan maybe…but I guess that excuse can fly considering how we lie about JuD to the world.

    While the assassination of the ASWJ lawyer was deplorable and stupid, there’s a big difference between an innocent Sunni and a Sunni supremacist whose member of a bigoted sectarian extremist organization that indulges in anti-minority extremism and terrorism.

    Your attempt at painting the Shia lawyers as terrorist supporters was shallow prejudice. Chances are they were killed simply based on their background rather than any organizational link to the minority militant group (formed more as a vigilante reactionary group rather for any systemized cleansing agenda) that actually targeted their own lawyer.

    Something akin to the Klu Klux Klan taking revenge at any 3 black guys to punish the Black Panthers, whether they had links or not. Both sides are not equal when it comes to discrimination and oppression….at least in Pak.

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  • Jan 25, 2012 - 11:56PM

    @mentelisco:

    And that’s a big part of the problem in Pak and elsewhere. Just saying Shia or Sunni in the headline is ‘inflammatory’. Why? Why sweep it under the rug? Where has that gotten us honestly? Let us admit there’s serious intolerance, prejudiced and bigoted tension in Pakistani society, especially among the majority. People somehow take the labels in too personally and emotionally in religious sentiment, and because of collective guilt there’s biased denial. It is time we examine it.

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  • Jan 26, 2012 - 12:09AM

    @faraz:
    You want to read nauseating?

    Here’s some harrowing comments. Though I’m sure you’ve come across the sentiment before.

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/325903/dg-khans-shia-community-considers-testing-ballot-power/

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  • Err
    Jan 26, 2012 - 12:10AM

    @God Delusion:
    I dont hate, I just like to correct fools. It’s also known as critical thinking/post-modernism i.e. questioning both sides of the premise. I just pointed out the contradictions in your claims which obviously has hurt you personally, you are already doing a good job contradicting yourself and discrediting yourself through generic statements.

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  • maiden
    Jan 26, 2012 - 12:18AM

    @All commenters:

    There is absolutely no doubt, that whatever religion, race, nationality or ethnicity one belongs to.. Killing anyone is the biggest sin. But please conprehend that in this particular scenario, it is correctly mentioned that they were Shias.. We all know how Shias are massacred by Sipah Sahaba and Lashgar e Jhangvi all over Pakistan and released by the judiciary due to ‘insufficient evidence’. They are responsible for these heinious sickening acts against humanity..Recommend

  • Jan 26, 2012 - 1:15AM

    Shia? Why mention shia? Is this an attempt to provoke sectarian riots?

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  • gm janwari
    Jan 26, 2012 - 1:19AM

    chief justice of pakistan should take immediately action against the killers.

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  • Ali Tanoli
    Jan 26, 2012 - 1:29AM

    @God Delusion
    What wonderfully put it this thing by Great Eastren Poet Allama M. Iqbal (R,A) that we succeded in the world only when we follows islam… think about it time has shown us this many times. (Hell is not joke may god save us)

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  • God Delusion
    Jan 26, 2012 - 2:02AM

    @Err:
    Well thanks for clarifying your source of illusion. Post-modernism is not what you are defining it to be. Pls go and learn about it before preaching it just to prove your point. I understand your ignorance and “intelligent design” theory.Recommend

  • Guardian Angel
    Jan 26, 2012 - 2:38AM

    I knew these people as they have been our neighbours for decade.Shia or Sunni,they were human beings and according to Quran n Sunnah,killing any human being is like killing the whole of the humanity.I knew them n I know all the family members.They were good people and all the neighbourhood is a witness to that.Even at majalis at their house,many Ahl-e-Sunnat people used to attend.It’s a great loss for the family who lost their father,brothers n bread winners.Anybody killed,whether shia or sunni or from any so called sects,are humans,have the same colour of blood and feel the same pain.They are as much loved by their families as much as we love n need our family members,our loved ones.May their souls rest in peace n may Allah Pak give Sabar to the bereived families..Aameen..

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  • jock
    Jan 26, 2012 - 12:05PM

    Lets hope this chain of events does not morph into the killing of doctors, as it did in the past.

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  • Anoni
    Jan 26, 2012 - 12:06PM

    It’s very sad but what if some one else is doing the target killing just to evoke secretarian violence . We have agents of different countries rooming around . Have we thought of that ?

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  • Lord
    Jan 26, 2012 - 12:57PM

    @FJ
    @mentelisco
    @BS.Detecter

    FJ You stole the show .Any one who is ill informed about sunnis life in iran please read it.Thats what you call sincere effort to create unity.

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  • Jan 26, 2012 - 11:30PM

    @islamidentity.com:
    Maybe we should never mention Shia and Sunni…ever…meanwhile as the murders keep happening in the background…shhhh…don’t talk about Shia and Sunni..sweep it under the rug, forget about it…maybe that guy was killed because of something else. I don’t want to know the truth about big scary extremist sectarian monsters that could be from my background, because I inexplicably invest some personal connection to such an ideology, even though I hypocritically tell everyone we’re ‘bhai-bhai’…

    Thought one strong part of Islamic identity was truth. Since when did we sacrifice that for cognitive bias?

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  • Discostu
    Jan 27, 2012 - 1:58AM

    Seems everyone is delusional here. The entire board is wrapped in a warped religious cloak. We live in a civilized society. It is not a sin that was committed, it was a murder which is against the law. God is not coming to help anyone, if no one is willing to help themselves. As I see it, there are two types of fundamentalists in Pakistan; those who are guided by an insane version of Islam to kill randomly and then those who are actively targeting the minorities in Pakistan. It is a shame that the government has given them the space to reposition themselves as humanitarian operations, but for the rest of the population to praise their good work and ignore their murderous ideology is criminal as well.

    For the battle for Pakistan’s soul, the battle lines are being drawn. There are those that want to turn us into Afghanistan, and they will force the other side to become an even more secular version of Turkey. You can guess which side Jinnah would have joined.

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  • Khadim Husain
    Jan 27, 2012 - 8:44AM

    In Pakitani media on finger tips three leading English papers are involved in spreading hate, the headlines like Shia killed is highly objectionable, either use in everycase Sunni killed or shia killed or only showing one sect Mazloom is engineered to create hate in the society.

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  • chaudhry
    Jan 27, 2012 - 12:41PM

    Sufism is the only solution.Recommend

  • Realist
    Jan 27, 2012 - 12:46PM

    @shadi:

    You wanted evidence of anti-Sunni behaviour in Iran from an independent source? Well, here you go.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/31/iran-forbids-sunni-eid-prayers

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  • from India
    Jan 27, 2012 - 4:53PM

    soon you may find shias and ahmedis are fleeing from pakistan and taking refuge in india (just like the hindus) …and i m sure they will be better off here !!

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  • Noise
    Jan 27, 2012 - 8:07PM

    @Realist
    Thats because they want Sunni and Shia to pray together

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  • Peace
    Jan 28, 2012 - 5:44PM

    Why do we forget the fact that Pakistan was created on a resolution and an objective rather than inspiration from any country !!!!!! So for ever1 who compares saudi system or Irannian with pakistn it pathetic we are a free nnation not bounded to follow any1 And according to pakistni law every1 has right to live and practice their religion freely, So say no to sectarianism , The person get Sahadat was indeed shia but more He was a Muslim and Pakistan . . . . .They didnt served in pakis courts to get killed in the Name of Religiion , Very Sad mindset Who r in favour of Killers . . .

    Moreover now v all should make it a slogan “” No Shia !!! No Sunni !!! Pakistani Pakistani . . . “”

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  • FJ
    Jan 31, 2012 - 7:36PM

    @Err:
    The biggest minority of Jews live in Iran…can you beat that?? Isn’t it a great pity that you are crying for Iran Sunni separate mosques while Pakistani Shias are being killed for no reason. I don’t think so there is any target killings of Sunnis Iran. Why you are so biased?? I am sure Sunni might face discrimination but being killed on their basis of faith is not common there. But here in Pakistan if a Shia is killed by Sipa e sahaba terrorists (I am not blaming Sunnis- Shia considers barelvi Sunni as their brothers) and you are fail to condemn that? You are busy arguing about Sunni separate mosques in Iran and during that debate Sipa e shaba terrorists already killed two more shias on the basis of their faith…Brother, wake up ..Be united!! Spread unity- that’s what you can do by condemning the Shia genocide.

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