24 soldiers killed in NATO attack on Pakistan check post

Published: November 26, 2011

NATO helicopters attack Pakistani checkpost on Pak-Afghan border, 12 security personnel also injured. PHOTO: REUTERS

NATO helicopters attack Pakistani checkpost on Pak-Afghan border, 12 security personnel also injured. PHOTO: REUTERS Sources say, nearby areas were also attacked by the helicopters. PHOTO: EXPRESS/FILE

PESHAWAR: An early Saturday morning attack by North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (Nato) helicopters killed at least 24 security personnel and injured 12 soldiers on a Pakistani check post in Salala, which is located in the Tehsil Bayzai area of Mohmand Agency on the Pak-Afghan border , sources said.

Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) sources confirmed the attack, but could not determine the number of casualties as the interrogation was still underway.

The incident took place in a village of Salala, which is an area bordering the Kunar province of Afghanistan.

At least 40 soldiers were stationed at the check post.

An official on the condition of anonymity told The Express Tribune that there was consistent shelling on the Pakistani check post, which resulted in security forces retaliating.

“The actual number of casualties might rise, as it cannot be determined at the moment,” the official said.

The official added that nearby areas were also attacked by the helicopters.

“It is a matter of national security and we are still interrogating it,” said a security official. “The matter will be taken up at the highest level.”

“This is an attack on Pakistan’s territorial sovereignty, “said Masood Kasur, the governor of Pakistan’s northwestern Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province. “Such cross-border attacks cannot be tolerated any more. The government will take up this matter at the highest level and it will be investigated.”

The situation remained unclear as the political administration did not give any information about the incident.

The incident comes a day after Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani met Commander of Coalition Forces in Afghanistan General Allen Jones to discuss measures of enhancing border control on both sides.

The attack will likely worsen US-Pakistan relations, already at one of their lowest points in history, following a tumultuous year that saw the bin Laden raid, the jailing of a CIA contractor, and US accusations that Pakistan backed a militant attack on the US Embassy in Kabul.

An increase inUS drone strikes on militants in the last few years has also irritated Islamabad, which says the campaign kills more Pakistani civilians in the border area than activists. Washington disputes that, but declines to discuss the drone campaign in detail.

Earlier, it was reported that Nato jets had attacked the border post.

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Reader Comments (223)

  • frank
    Nov 26, 2011 - 9:59AM

    The American enemy is trying to provoke us. This is a calculated response to the joint Pak-China millitary excerises in jhelum.

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  • ali
    Nov 26, 2011 - 10:06AM

    where is the pak airforce….sleeping…

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  • ali
    Nov 26, 2011 - 10:08AM

    Time to give befitting reply..where is the air force..

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  • ali
    Nov 26, 2011 - 10:12AM

    only cowards will not retaliate..so lets see…us..nato have been given free pass to attack our homeland.Recommend

  • Cautious
    Nov 26, 2011 - 10:14AM

    Dawn reports that the attack was from NATO helicopters not jets – given the history of these types of confrontations it’s likely the Pakistani soldiers were shooting at the American’s over perceived sovereignty issue – it’s wiser and safer to radio the American’s rather than shoot at them.

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  • SK
    Nov 26, 2011 - 10:19AM

    Oops!

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  • ali
    Nov 26, 2011 - 10:21AM

    US and its allies openly targeting Pakistan…so where is our befitting reply.

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  • maz3tt
    Nov 26, 2011 - 10:41AM

    it had happened before but still no reply. Is there a free pass?

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  • Mirza
    Nov 26, 2011 - 10:45AM

    Lot of bark but no bite! Talk is cheap, keep talking. If you do not take out the trash somebody else would. An apology from NATO and we would move on.

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  • Ali Khan
    Nov 26, 2011 - 10:55AM

    No apologies this time pakistan shuld step out from this nato war in afganistan naw
    stop alll military and civilian convoys or afgan trade trety.

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  • ali
    Nov 26, 2011 - 10:56AM

    Why do military exercises with china when the armed forces cannot defend the sovereignty of the country.

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  • faraz
    Nov 26, 2011 - 10:56AM

    Its not about bravery or cowardice. We cannot challenge US army in a conventional battle; insurgency is a different kind of war altogether

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  • Cool
    Nov 26, 2011 - 10:56AM

    Beginning to an endRecommend

  • ovais ahmed
    Nov 26, 2011 - 10:59AM

    yes i agree with abovecomment,hundreds of raids have taken ever since us attacked afganistan,just mere excuse in future these kind of acts will not be tollerated……go to help spineless people,….just shot down one aircraft and see they wont dare again…….let me tell u i am indian kashmiri feeling sad ..Recommend

  • ashok sai
    Nov 26, 2011 - 10:59AM

    Hope some high valued terrorists got hit.

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  • Asif
    Nov 26, 2011 - 11:05AM

    I agree @Ali

    It has been a war.
    They have been attacking with drones.

    Whats the difference?

    Kayani , whats the deal?

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  • Faisal Awan
    Nov 26, 2011 - 11:06AM

    8 troops killed including a major
    SHAMe Recommend

  • JustAnotherPakistani
    Nov 26, 2011 - 11:08AM

    “Befitting” a word much abused in this context and in this country.

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  • Easy peasy
    Nov 26, 2011 - 11:10AM

    So, it started.

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  • ali
    Nov 26, 2011 - 11:14AM

    Make peace with the Taliban and get out of this war which was never ours. Time to give a befitting reply.

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  • Asif
    Nov 26, 2011 - 11:17AM

    No more cooperation in their war. End the war.

    Show them the door, and tell them to leave Afghanistan.

    Their objectives will never be met.

    Kayani must ACT NOWRecommend

  • Munna
    Nov 26, 2011 - 11:19AM

    See US and the West supports their trained insurgents to enter Pakistan.

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  • Asif
    Nov 26, 2011 - 11:21AM

    @Faraz

    that is wrong. Pak Army has advanced anti-aricraft. I dont understand the need for this.

    Iran would not tolerate such action.

    Russia just sent Syria S-300 anti-aircraft system.

    US is doing this because Kayani has opposed all their objectives in Afghanistan.

    Kayani must oppose them even more, and make the Afghan opposition to US presence public.

    Munter needs to leave back to US as he is formenting trouble and interfering.

    Ever since US officials were kicked out, notice how those “so-called terrorist remote attacks at markets” have stopped?
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  • ali
    Nov 26, 2011 - 11:26AM

    When Indian helicopter come across they are intercepted immediately even though Indians are not even shooting yet when NATO and US helicopters fire and kill our air force is no where to be found.

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  • ali
    Nov 26, 2011 - 11:34AM

    general kiyani the nations patience is wearing thin as our soldiers are dying and your are not giving NATO a befitting reply. Recommend

  • Asif
    Nov 26, 2011 - 11:39AM

    this happened in Afghanistan a day ago.

    US-led copter shot down, 33 killed

    http://presstv.com/detail/211914.html

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  • Pragmatist
    Nov 26, 2011 - 11:42AM

    I wonder why NATO chose to do this. But I sure can guess. Were the militants being provided with covering fire that NATO reacted to?

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  • Supernova
    Nov 26, 2011 - 11:47AM

    According to unconfirmed sources the total number of martyrs are 22 ( incl 2 offrs ) and 35 are injured in this attack. Nato airforce started poundering the area at mid night and destroyed 2 posts of Pakistan army with gun ship helicopters and jets and it continued uptill morning, while own air force didn’t respond at all. This is a shame on the part of Pakistan.We as a nation need to wake up and take the things more seriously.

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  • zahid
    Nov 26, 2011 - 12:08PM

    Those are responsible of this incident who provides fuel to NATO to killed pakistani soldiers. Recommend

  • zahid
    Nov 26, 2011 - 12:13PM

    Why such incident happening time and again on borders. Who will be held responsible to this incident?

    What is the permanant solution to prevent such kind of agresssion.

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  • Pakistani
    Nov 26, 2011 - 12:13PM

    Why PAF not come in action when NATO forces bombing our soldiers?

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  • Asif
    Nov 26, 2011 - 12:23PM

    Afghanistan needs its freedom NOW.

    Must be made more public.

    No more servitude to the US.

    Afghanistan needs it independence NOW at all costs.

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  • aayush
    Nov 26, 2011 - 12:29PM

    where are jf 17 thunder or blunder whateverRecommend

  • Saurav
    Nov 26, 2011 - 12:31PM

    dont get provoked Pakistan, that is what America wants you to do…….you have Chinas support complain to them…….china will take care of america.

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  • Asif
    Nov 26, 2011 - 12:32PM

    It is now official.

    War on Pakistan has been declared officially

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  • Fahad Raza
    Nov 26, 2011 - 12:33PM

    And just yesterday Munter was saying Iran is not a reliable partner…Recommend

  • Democracy
    Nov 26, 2011 - 12:35PM

    Democracy is the best revenge. but from whom????

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  • Son of Soil
    Nov 26, 2011 - 12:36PM

    In era of GPS and GPRS its impossible that NATO did not know the position of Our Post.Recommend

  • Kashmiri
    Nov 26, 2011 - 12:36PM

    @ashok sai: The actual high value terrorists are in Indian army camps in Indian occupied Kashmir. We request NATO / Pakistani forces to carry out same attacks on Indian occupied Kashmir and take out these actual high value terrorists. Free Kashmir forever!

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  • Someone
    Nov 26, 2011 - 12:38PM

    At the end of the day, it’s our own security forces who are being killed at the hands of both. Time to shut down all supply routes. Enough is enoughRecommend

  • VCD
    Nov 26, 2011 - 12:39PM

    Let’s bomb Afghanistan/NATO bases

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  • arif
    Nov 26, 2011 - 12:43PM

    now its a rite time to prove we r a sovereign nationRecommend

  • Democracy
    Nov 26, 2011 - 12:44PM

    Pakistani government will block Nato supply line as usual like in the past.

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/56665/nato-violates-pak-airspace-second-time-in-24-hours/

    Then everything will be fine after a week or two

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/60466/pakistan-reopens-main-land-route-for-nato-supplies/

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  • Sweet Dee
    Nov 26, 2011 - 12:53PM

    @cautious

    You make me sick.

    A senior Pakistani military officer said efforts were under way to bring the bodies to the headquarters of Mohmand tribal region from their post located on hilltops near the Afghan border.
    “The latest attack by Nato forces on our post would have serious repercussions as they without any reason attacked on our post and killed soldiers asleep,” he said, requesting anonymity because he was not authorised to talk to the media.

    http://www.dawn.com/2011/11/26/eight-pakistani-soldiers-reportedly-killed-in-nato-attack.html

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  • Usman
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:06PM

    Please, no measured response this time. This is an attack in the Motherland. The world is waiting for our response. Let’s show them we mean business

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  • Naveed
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:06PM

    And nato monsters were flying using oil/petrol supplied by Pakistan. Shoot down these monsters as found even near to Pakistani border.

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  • Indian
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:07PM

    Had this been done by an Indian army contingent would the Pakistani army and public be quiet?

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  • Nadeem
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:08PM

    What a shame for the whole nation these intrusions are becomingRecommend

  • Jameel
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:12PM

    @ali:

    Time to give befitting reply..where is
    the air force..

    Good question. Last time (May 2nd) they promised it won’t happen again.

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  • Zaman khan
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:14PM

    Where is the joint resolution that in future any such attempt would be responded with befitting counter action. Pakistani nation wake up else it would be too late to redeem what ever is left

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  • Noor
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:20PM

    Will we keep protesting for ever? Are we that insane?

    We need to stop all supplies forthwith; lobby with neighbouring countries to push US out of it; one-to-one dialogue with Taliban for peace, irrespective of US or NATO interests; lodge legitimate complaints in International Court of Justice with regards to all violations done by them so far, employing professional lawyers; expel at least two US Diplomats as Person Non-Grata.

    Anyone opposing above will prove himself to be our Enemy’s Agent and should be tried for treason under Article 6.Recommend

  • ali
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:21PM

    Shame …………….on us Recommend

  • Soho
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:22PM

    Very sad! Who ever is responsible should be punished. However, I agree with Faraz that a war with NATO/US is not in Pakistan’s interest. Let’s see how both parties handle this delicate situation. Recommend

  • JSM
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:22PM

    I fail to understand why Pakisatni defence forces did not respond to the aggression.

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  • Iftikhar-ur-Rehman
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:23PM

    They kill our soldiers and we just stop their supplies??? Why wasn’t there any response from our AIR FORCERecommend

  • peshawar
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:23PM

    Keep sleeping……. hahahahhahah

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  • Naveed
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:23PM

    Why did we develop JF-17 thunder ? for Dubai Air Show ?

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  • Usman Zafar
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:30PM

    We should give instaneous reply. Our Gun ship Helicopters/ Airforce should attack NATO bases in Afganistan. Lives of 24 soldiers have been lost. Our Armed forces should act bravely and respond so that they can never think of Attacking our homeland again.

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  • straight_talk
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:36PM

    US and Pak have conflicting foreign policy in AF-Pak. So sooner or later military confrontation is certain. Pakistan has no choice but to resort to diplomacy to handle this. Those who are shouting for ” befitting ” reply must realise Pakistan cannot fight NATO militarily. You can choke the supplies but eventually you have to open it up to avoid international isolation and receive foreign aid, trade concessions and loans. Moreover a significant part of Pak military hardware is from NATO countries. They will eventually choke the supply of spares. So Pak can fight only for a limited time period beyond which their weapon systems will get grounded for want of spares.

    Those who are comparing with Iran must realise that Iran’s strength in a confrontration against USA lies in its huge oil supplies and also that it can choke the Strait of Hormuz from where 30-40% of the world’s crude exports passes. So Iran will threaten the world economy which can put significant pressure on the US. Pakistan can do no such thing.

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  • Bilal
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:44PM

    Aren’t we fighting war on terror for them ?

    Nothing would change. There should have been a strong action taken on this by now.

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  • Razor
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:45PM

    Well to fight you need will and courage , we only flex our muscle to the weak and poor, our policy is just to avoid engagement with themRecommend

  • hindustan ki shakti
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:50PM

    It is really unfortunate. Its not only end of 24 lives but it is also end of life for hundreds of people dependent on them(their families). Simple statement by Nato that it was a mistake is not acceptable.

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  • FAZ
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:50PM

    This is basically a retaliation on the news of us having a peace deal with the Taliban! Its high time that we consider our afghan border dangerous as we do in case of India. Recommend

  • faraz
    Nov 26, 2011 - 1:55PM

    @Asif

    Well our anti-aircraft weapons can’t challenge advanced US planes like B-2, F-22. Anti-missile sites can be easily eliminated by stealth bomber paving way for ordinary helicopters etc.

    Iran sits on the second largest oil and gas reserves of the world. An attack on Iran will shoot up the oil prices and deepen the current recession. Iran has huge influence in Iraq and Afghanistan, both countries where US is involved. An attack on Iran would ruin US strategy in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Actually the pressure over North Waziristan is over. Now US want Pakistan to bring Taliban on the negotiation table.

    US is Pakistan’s largest trade partner, and IMF/World bank loans can’t be acquired without US approval. Study how the capitalist economy works.

    This again shows you naiveté. Do you think TTP based in FATA is being run by US consulates in Lahore, Karachi etc. US trainers were based in the military bases and most of them have returned. The decline in terrorist attacks is due to military operations in South Waziristan which was the headquarters of TTP. If US want to help TTP, it can do it through Durand line. Come out of the state of denial. The dozens of militant groups nurtured during the 80s and 90s are behind all the terrorism.

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  • Zeeshan
    Nov 26, 2011 - 2:09PM

    @cautious

    How more heartless can you be?Recommend

  • Hassan Naqvi
    Nov 26, 2011 - 2:11PM

    It is a total shame for us, NATO is constantly killing our soldiers in cross-border fire, and we always stop their supply for just couple of days to show our anger. We need to teach them a lesson this time either on democratic grounds or on war grounds.

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  • rk_india
    Nov 26, 2011 - 2:13PM

    its covered in US AID, right?

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  • Faisal
    Nov 26, 2011 - 2:15PM

    Deploy nukes on western border they should realize what cost they can pay for such adventures!!!

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  • :|
    Nov 26, 2011 - 2:17PM

    26/11 in pak history

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  • sohail
    Nov 26, 2011 - 2:21PM

    stop supplies forever not for 2 3 days.mohmand is not much far from peshawar airbase Recommend

  • Anonymous
    Nov 26, 2011 - 2:24PM

    Dont worry ppl, we will reply them soon in Afghanistan on their check posts…US is never friend of any country, just mean ppl.Recommend

  • wiki
    Nov 26, 2011 - 2:33PM

    @ashok sai:
    they didn’t attack indian army:)

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  • JustAnotherPakistani
    Nov 26, 2011 - 2:38PM

    View this pragmatically and without emotions. We can’t afford to go to war with the United States. The only thing we can do is to disengage from this conflict and only worry about our own mullahs: TTP, LJE, Sunni Threek et-al. I can assure you that this incident happened for a reason, which will manifest itself in a few days. If the attack was in error you will get an apology. And don’t look at Iran as an example of someone defying the west. Iran is energy rich and relatively prosperous. There’s no comparison between the two countries.Recommend

  • R S JOHAR
    Nov 26, 2011 - 2:46PM

    Its a bizarre incident. NATO pilots would have known for sure that it was a Pakistani check post but continued the attacks till early morning. One report says that they were following the two militants till they entered the checkpost. In that case, continuation of aerial bombing appears to be a delibrate to convey a strong message to Pak military not to cooperate with the terrorists which the Americans have been accusing Pakistan lately. Being an Indian I would support Pakistan that killing of 24 soldiers was inhuman and unjustified and a mere apology by NATO woundn’t suffice. RIP to the dead.

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  • Jat
    Nov 26, 2011 - 2:52PM

    @Kashmiri: Just try … we are not Pakistan … or have you forgotten ?

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  • Meekal Ahmed
    Nov 26, 2011 - 2:54PM

    @ali:

    Wrong.

    The Indian helicopter was not “intercepted”. It landed in our territory, probably low on fuel.

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  • junaid
    Nov 26, 2011 - 2:56PM

    Every body is writing comments to lesson their anger, anxiousness and anxiety………..em toooooooooo……..!!!!!!!Recommend

  • Fareedi
    Nov 26, 2011 - 3:00PM

    Did our soldiers die in Vain? They died protecting their country. It is 26 families who lost their loved ones. It is time to listen to sanity and follow what Imran Khan has been saying all along. This is not our war. It has not done any good to our country. Our people die every day to make America safe, and then we still are the target of abuse for the whole world.

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  • maz3tt
    Nov 26, 2011 - 3:02PM

    if vice versa would have happened then we would already have gotten the reply.

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  • maz3tt
    Nov 26, 2011 - 3:04PM

    Pakistan should cut all strategic support at this moment.

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  • Sunny
    Nov 26, 2011 - 3:04PM

    Dear All I Really Respect all ur thoughts and Emotions more or less every one is saying same thing but dude face the reality ” Beggars are not choosers” we are sold and their slaves so except shouting we cannot do any thing .

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  • Nov 26, 2011 - 3:15PM

    @ovais ahmed: Hello Indian Kashmiri I am touched by your sentiments. You are are a true Pakistani at heart and must support Pakistan to take appropriate action against the NATO forces. How dare they do.

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  • Nov 26, 2011 - 3:17PM

    @ali: very good idea. this will at least bring peace and true Islam in Pakistan. I agree.

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  • Imran
    Nov 26, 2011 - 3:23PM

    Pakistan Allies using Pakistans roads and Pakistans Hospitals (in Karachi for wounded in the Afghan theatre) Pakistan is killing its own tribal people to please these people and now our own army personel gets killed. But ok they were right to shoot at these Pakistani soldiers because they didn’t use their radioes to contact the helicopters. This is US airspace isn’t it we should ask the US for permission to live in our own country and to defend our own country is terrorism….

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  • Munna
    Nov 26, 2011 - 3:26PM

    Pakistan must declare “No Fly Zone” for NATO or US Drones, whats so ever in entire Pakistani airspace.

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  • ali
    Nov 26, 2011 - 3:27PM

    This act of provocation should be dealt with by stopping all communication with US and instead work on firming our alliances with China.

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  • azereta
    Nov 26, 2011 - 3:30PM

    @ali: Crap talk as usual.

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  • tric
    Nov 26, 2011 - 3:37PM

    The alternate supply line through chaman (Balochistan) is still open. I wonder why??

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  • CommonSense
    Nov 26, 2011 - 3:37PM

    This attack comes a day after a NATO airstrike killed 6 children in Afghanistan. Great going NATO, I can see why you’re totally winning against the Taliban.

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  • Ibn Warraq
    Nov 26, 2011 - 3:39PM

    @ali:
    Beggars too will not retaliate.

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  • Starboy
    Nov 26, 2011 - 3:59PM

    pak army must respond. its not the first time. pak army should stop all convoys to NATO forces in afghanistan. enough is enough. Recommend

  • Hamid
    Nov 26, 2011 - 4:01PM

    We must take revenge.

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  • Nov 26, 2011 - 4:05PM

    This will all blow over. The last time this sort of thing happened was in 2009 when 2 soldiers were killed. Do you know what Pakistan’s response was then? We blocked NATO supplies for all of 10 days before things returned to normal. Rest assured we will come up with a similarly servile response this time as well. Recommend

  • Citizen
    Nov 26, 2011 - 4:22PM

    @Usman:
    Motherland ? There is no concept of motherland in Islam. If there was a concept of motherland then Pakistan wouldn’t have been carved out at the first place.

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  • Loller
    Nov 26, 2011 - 4:36PM

    You all are sitting here going on and on and on about a reply from Pakistan and what not but I just have one question for the majority of you. Have you even registered to vote yet? What about actually voting when elections come? Will you go to the polling stations? When you have such a government, clearly there will be no responses at diplomatic or military level because they will just give the PM & President a few hundred thousand dollars and they will quiet. Therefore, quit crying and do something when it counts.Recommend

  • Nov 26, 2011 - 4:43PM

    @Cautious:
    That is SICK… Instead of Offering FATEHA for the Departed Soul, you are adding SALT to the WOUNDS of Pakistanis…. SO much for Liberalism a.k.a Western “Ghulami”…
    May Allah bless the Shuhadas’ families and and give our leaders (both Civil & Military) the vision and COURAGE to say “NO MORE” to this “War of Terror” that has ruined Pakistan.
    Both the RELIGIOUS and LIBERAL Extremists will be happy today on the massacre of these soldiers…. After all the strings of both types of Extremists are being pulled from the same “LANGLEY” Headquarters.

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  • XX
    Nov 26, 2011 - 4:44PM

    An aam aadmi does no good to himself or his family by flaunting arrogance to the sardaar. He must simply keep his eyes on the goal of keeping his family safe, and do so with perseverance and a mind unclouded by vanities like self-grandeur and the lust of victory. Else both the man and his family are surely doomed.

    Things would have been different if we’d still had a man like Musharraf as Army Chief.

    The vanities of his which has lead him once already to betray his nation like no other will now lead to his utter incompetence in protecting it.Recommend

  • Mango Man
    Nov 26, 2011 - 4:48PM

    Any idea what led to the firing? Unlikely that the ‘copters fired just out of fancy!

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  • Chemical reaction
    Nov 26, 2011 - 5:08PM

    This is not acceptable at all but i wonder why all the concerned quarters are taking this a very serious and a high priority matter. In the past, on most of the occasions, a response like this was missing. :(

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  • Tahir
    Nov 26, 2011 - 5:15PM

    Guys, don’t worry, our lines are on break these days and interrogating the ‘MOST IMPORTANT memogate issue. Once that is done, they will take up the issue of national defense seriously. Their supremacy and defense of business and political interest is more important than the rest of the issues !!!!!

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  • Hasnain
    Nov 26, 2011 - 5:17PM

    **I used to call myself a proud Pakistani till now but now I am ashamed to call myself a Pakistani.I am just another slave of a slave country.

    Soldiers are coming from other countries and killing our army men in our territory and we are merely saying that it will will be investigated. Isn’t it amount to a total action of war?

    I personally knew the officer who embraced martyrdom in this attack Capt Usman Shaheed and met him on Eid ul Azha when he came to Sahiwal a couple of weeks back. I just cant take his image out of my mind when he showed me his two months old daughter. Will this following condolence do any good to her daughter who never saw his father once she grows up?:

    The US commander in Afghanistan on Saturday promised a full investigation after Pakistan said a NATO air strike killed at least 23 soldiers, sending his condolences over any troops who may have died.
    “This incident has my highest personal attention and my commitment to thoroughly investigate it to determine the facts,” said General John Allen, commander of NATO’s International Security Assistance Force (Isaf).**

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  • Seher
    Nov 26, 2011 - 5:26PM

    For the sake of the soldiers who lost their lives I hope the government does something about this. This is just terrible.

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  • Imran Mohammad
    Nov 26, 2011 - 5:30PM

    Nothing will happen. It will be business as usual in few days. Lets not boil our blood too much…

    Condolences and sympathies for the families pf soldiers/officers.

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  • Ali haider
    Nov 26, 2011 - 5:35PM

    Shame on u Natto

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  • G. Din
    Nov 26, 2011 - 5:47PM

    @Usman:
    “The world is waiting for our response.”
    Oh no, we are not. Take all the time you want or need. We can wait! Recommend

  • peshwari
    Nov 26, 2011 - 6:02PM

    I am a youth of pakistan and would want a statement from Imran Khan regarding what action he would take against US when he’s pm. Is he going to follow our present army and president?Recommend

  • Aviator
    Nov 26, 2011 - 6:25PM

    A Year ago 2 soldiers got martyred by NATO , reaction was closing of a key border crossing on a NATO supply route to Afghanistan for 10 days until the U.S. apologize! And today the price estimated for those 26 soldiers martyred would be closure of 2 borders and more dollars ? or am i missing something ?

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  • A Fahran
    Nov 26, 2011 - 6:26PM

    Good ! Now its payback time by Americans for the cheating policies of Pakistan nation
    Such news are expected after years of support of Taliban.

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  • Maria
    Nov 26, 2011 - 6:33PM

    It is once again a most sad day for the pakistanis all over the world. We are sorry for those mothers , wives , daughters and sons for this irreparable loss.I am not aware of the possibilities of a firm and effective matching response in coming,however, it is my earnest desire to reach out and take up arms myself and fight these heinous criminals. How can you really take such cowards as your allies who are repetitively compromising sovereignty of your country. Let me remind our so called friends, you are in a wrong place at a wrong time, you will have to pay back in the same coins. Blood of pakistani soldiers is not cheap,time would definitely prove this.

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  • Ishrat Salim
    Nov 26, 2011 - 6:45PM

    The attack was at 2.00 am on Sat morning by NATO helicopters…..when most of them had gone to sleep with few soldiers to man the chkpost…..so how do one is expected to retaliate…..at the end they will say ” sorry ” – a wonderful word taught to us by the British…….& move on….Recommend

  • Meraj
    Nov 26, 2011 - 6:49PM

    had this been afghanistan and the attack was on taliban they would have given a ‘befitting’ reply sooner or later. either a chinook shot down or an army bus blown apart. our army and our government can only ‘talk’ but they are so embroiled in strategical plotting with the US that they are afraid to take ‘direct’ action.
    im surprised at the army. their soldiers are killed not civilians in KPK that can be ‘ignored’. come on lads. take a leaf out of the taliban, and show them yo have a backbone

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  • Supernova
    Nov 26, 2011 - 6:49PM

    I think the aftermath of this incident would be same like the previous ones, we need a lion to lead this nation, a change that we need to bring forcefully. We as a nation, have been talking about alot of changes in these past few years, but where are these changes? First we need to change ourselves so that we can bring a change elsewhere.This is a very sad and depressing incident, just pray for these sons of the land and their families.

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  • Fugitive
    Nov 26, 2011 - 6:59PM

    @Usman:
    We actually ARE in business. Only this time ‘they’ have made us known that ‘they’ mean business.

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  • Ravi
    Nov 26, 2011 - 7:00PM

    @Kashmiri:
    Kashmir is and has been Indian territory for 6,000 years. So there is no question of India “occupying” its own land. That is why Kashmir voluntarily acceded to India after independence in 1947.

    separatists are not indigenous Kashmiri, but the descendants of Iranian and Uzbek migrants during the Mughal period, who are occupying Indian land. You do not belong in Kashmir. Only Indians are indigenous Kashmiris and no Indian, of any denomination, would ever think of separating from India. It is time for separatists to quit India and find their “self-determination” in Iran and Uzbekistan!!!!Recommend

  • Khalid
    Nov 26, 2011 - 7:10PM

    This was a barbaric act committed on 180 million Pakistanis by barbarians today. The government MUST MAKE SURE that these NATO cowards pay a high price for their cowardice.

    Nothing less will be acceptable now, not this time.

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  • Hairaan
    Nov 26, 2011 - 7:10PM

    Do we have our ambassador in Washington at the moment?

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  • hedgefunder
    Nov 26, 2011 - 7:11PM

    @Faisal:
    Deploy nukes on western border they should realize what cost they can pay for such adventures!!!

    Stop being so childish !! Do you think that rest of world will just sit and observe any such moves by Pakistan????
    Get real, and learn to face facts as time has come when Pakistan’s duplicity in the War on Terror is coming to head, and USA & NATO have woken up a decade late, but better than never !!
    So get ready for more of these types of scuffles on regular basis, as its obvious that Pak establishment is choosy and reluctant to deal with their so called Stratigic Assets.Recommend

  • hello
    Nov 26, 2011 - 7:19PM

    An attack on Pakistan is an attack on China. Wait for China’s action now.

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  • KiJ
    Nov 26, 2011 - 7:23PM

    First an attack in Baluchistan, now in Mohmand Agency…. a definite provocation!

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  • Shayan
    Nov 26, 2011 - 7:25PM

    The befitting reply is to stop airspace and logistics support to the US.Recommend

  • fawad
    Nov 26, 2011 - 7:55PM

    yar wat soldiers were doin????? if they found intruders they shud have blown a rocket launcher from chek postRecommend

  • Grace
    Nov 26, 2011 - 7:55PM

    God bless the souls of the brave military personnel. The government needs to use peaceful means to seal the border and stop all movement of goods to Afghanistan now to show that Pakistan will not let itself be abused like this. Think about all the suffering we have experienced for defeating the Soviets for the West and ending the Cold War. This is how we are thanked! Shame.

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  • Nasir Khan
    Nov 26, 2011 - 7:58PM

    My condolence to the families of the twenty four soldiers killed in this brazen attack which violates international norms and rules to shreds. The lives of hundred of family members have been ruined & changed forever. The civil society must provide support to the bereaved families. NATO is a front for the US. Pakistan has to throw the US dollars back in their face and act as a soveriegn country, even if that comes at a huge cost. Struggling with dignity is better than living as puppets.

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  • Faran
    Nov 26, 2011 - 8:11PM

    We are front line allies of US and such trivialities can’t cripple our relations. Who is the fool to think about sovereignty, integrity and honor in 21st century. Definitely we shall get huge sums of aid as compensation. By getting one Pakistani killed, we can arrange enough money as we have been doing in the past. This is the best possible resort in this age of economic recession. I hope there will be some enlightened moderates who will write on this topic to convince the nation about this enlightening plan, which is though already underway, but after getting backed by public, we shall be tasting the real fruition.Recommend

  • Raj
    Nov 26, 2011 - 8:12PM

    Pakistan should provide a credible proof that attack was by NATO forces.

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  • bLackmajesty
    Nov 26, 2011 - 8:22PM

    The latest attack has once again unveiled the paradigm shift in the policy of the American forces that is to launch both covert and overt offensive against Pakistan.The upsurge in drone attacks augmented by unilateral direct strikes by American forces on our soil have not only questioned our territorial integrity but also our self respect and soverienity.One feels great pain to see the colossal loss of human life which this nation has faced in the past decade may that be due to deadly terrorist strikes across the country or natural disasters which now and then finds a reason to hit our country.No one else is to blame but us ,because the its us who have guaged our national stature to such a historic low that we cannot even voice and record our protests at the international forum effectively what to talk of retaliating and stop feeding the phantom which has come out of the bottle ! This is high time that we differentiate between our friends and adversaries because this deamon if not tackled now will haunt our generations to come forever.The Govt should take stern action by not only blocking the main supply route of Nato forces indefinitly but also re-defining rules of engagement (ROE) so that the blood of innocent civilians and soldiers may not all go but in vain.

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  • Hu Jintao
    Nov 26, 2011 - 8:40PM

    They will only back off if we go on offensiveRecommend

  • Arjun
    Nov 26, 2011 - 8:43PM

    You can only play a double game for so long. The Abbotabad raid and this incident proves it.Recommend

  • Nov 26, 2011 - 8:46PM

    They must have Passed something bigger Terrorists or Machines type thing for PAK. This Major Attack can never be a Mistake its a Planned attack. They have passed something bigger into the PAK border.PAK should Investigate in Linked Roads and CCTV if any left. Now on those roads.

    Ask for Compensation 100Milliopn Dollars, SUE the NATO in International Court of Justice,
    Trminate their Supplies for At least 2 Months.Recommend

  • Hairaan
    Nov 26, 2011 - 9:03PM

    NATO, ISAF, US: Get out of this region and leave us alone. We were better without you.

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  • Babloo
    Nov 26, 2011 - 9:03PM

    Pakistan should declare military and economic sanctions on USA. Cut off all military and ecnomic assiatance to USA and impose a naval blocade on USA. Remember , Pakistan militarty has a history of great victories in last 60 years , unmatched in history.

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  • Tamil Arasan
    Nov 26, 2011 - 9:04PM

    @Kashmiri: Kashmir is an integral part of India and it will remain forever….based on religion if you try to divide India then people from other parts of India are ready to defend it – I am form the southern most part of India called Kanyakumari and we never faced any war or any terror attack in our area – but if you go and ask any youths of my village their first choice will be to work for Indian army, we love our mother land and ready to sacrifice to defend it’s unity…

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  • Nov 26, 2011 - 9:15PM

    What happened to your Strategic Concept my dear NATO? You could have other options to resolve whatsoever but attacking and killing these 24 security men. Why?
    ****
    We, the political leaders of NATO, are determined to continue renewal of our Alliance so that it is fit for purpose in addressing the 21st Century security challenges [...] Our Alliance thrives as a source of hope because it is based on common values of individual liberty, democracy, human rights and the rule of law, and because our common essential and enduring purpose is to safeguard the freedom and security of its members. These values and objectives are universal and perpetual, and we are determined to defend them through unity, solidarity, strength and resolve.
    Strategic Concept
    Lisbon Summit,
    November 2010Recommend

  • GHQ
    Nov 26, 2011 - 9:25PM

    @A Fahran: NATO should attack your house first and call it collateral damage. Then we’ll see how “wounded” and “angry” you get.

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  • Twinkle twinkle
    Nov 26, 2011 - 9:33PM

    @Raj – maybe there are Indian personnell in the mix with Nato doing command and control . . . . . No one can be so blood thirsty for Pakistan except Indian command and control pursuing some naive nations to join them in their hatred against Pakistan!!

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  • Pk-Jawan
    Nov 26, 2011 - 9:37PM

    This attack was meant to put pressure on Pakistan Army and to engage the army in this matter so that they remain less engaged in MEMO GATE and forget about the civilian govt.Its so easy for them to let the people forget the past(who is talking about Obl/Davis…etc issue).

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  • epicurus
    Nov 26, 2011 - 9:37PM

    how many here feel this is allah’s wrath on pakistan which had a hand in the slaughtering of innocents in mumbai 3 years ago????

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  • Nov 26, 2011 - 9:39PM

    NATO Attacks kills 26 Pakistani soldiers.
    Doob Mer Jana Chaye Hamari Hakumat Ko jo So Called Khudmukhtaari Ki Baat kertay hain.
    We have to decide now either we r with usa nd its absurd policies or with ourselves , b courageous nd ask nato and its master usa why such incident has taken place and probe into into matter with seriousness not for prserving chairs of power.only army may reply to suc h nasty situation. big thanks to our corrupt stakeholders because of them we face such humilating things. . . Recommend

  • Nov 26, 2011 - 9:44PM

    alresdy forwarded

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  • Bakwas bund
    Nov 26, 2011 - 9:55PM

    This also may be a desperate tactic to engage war on Pakistan. If this democratic government wants to finish its term, then it should act like democracy and not duck its head under the table looking at the military. It needs to know how to act and what action to take and what action to bring before the UN and the world body in a quick and decisive way and not just wimpy temporary words!! If this so called democratic government cannot stop this genocide on the Pakistani nation immediately and decisively . . . .then, it need to graciously accept its failure and not play with the lives of its people and let some else bravely take the Baton so the perpetrators of this genocide could be exposed and brought to justice before the world body. . . . Recommend

  • Maria
    Nov 26, 2011 - 9:58PM

    What are we trying to do ? it appears as if every time we announce firm response, the so called friends call our bluff. This is the most sad day for all the pakistanis today, actions not words are the real need of the time. stop trusting them and better go for quid pro quo responses. i don’t understand why Iran an erstwhile enemy of USA, which shares borders with Afhanistan as well as iraq, has never faced such provocations even once. Iran does not have Nuclear capability but even then the world fears taking any unilateral action against them. Whats wrong with us, is it , that our strength has been converted in to our weakness ?. We need to learn lessons from across our neighborhood and take a corrective course of action.

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  • Nov 26, 2011 - 10:09PM

    @Najam Sethi:
    So you’ll be canceling your US green card?

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  • sardar nadir
    Nov 26, 2011 - 10:09PM

    ham on us tht our aiforce hve 500 fighter jets ad 11lac ground troops but dot hve heart like iran our 30 troops shaheed but at tht time where was our airforce why they nt shoot down nato halicopters vry sorry to say agan same type of protest lunched why pakistan nt taking his revange to attack nato check post on pak afghan border to make hs head proud but they wll nt do i knw

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  • Khurram
    Nov 26, 2011 - 10:17PM

    @Ali “Why do military exercises with china when the armed forces cannot defend the sovereignty of the country.”
    When was the last time they defended the country? If we are at the verge of being a failed State our Armed Forces are directly responsible for it. The Chinese our all weather friends know our Achilles Heel and would exploit it to the hilt. I have been saying this all along our salvation lies only in sorting out our invented problems with India, sooner we do it the better it is for us and for India too they also need to move from their position.
    I know my words would irk many readers to them I would say that my family’s long and distinguished dossier of Dedicated Patriotism, Sacrifice and Service in line of duty whether in the Armed Services or in the Civil gives me right to call spade a spade. The time is ripe for us to look in the right direction and take the step to undo the damage wrecked upon us by sixty four years of experimentation and in trying to pretend that we are Middle Easterns not Indians with whom we not only share the gene-pool but also the social bond, our legacy and identity, we need to claim all this because we are an equal and rightful claimants to our common heritage.

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  • JustAnotherPakistani
    Nov 26, 2011 - 10:17PM

    To those asking for a military escalation: It’s too late. While the check post was under attack the military should have engaged the attackers. That would have been an act of self-defense, now it will be a blatant act of aggression. Our borders are obviously not protected very well. The air force probably has no night fighting capability, even if it had any operational assets in the vicinity. Best bet is too complain bitterly; cut off the supplies for a few days; and try and get as much positive spin out of this as possible. Alas this will not bring the dead back.

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  • Raj
    Nov 26, 2011 - 10:22PM

    @Twinkle twinkle:
    That is why I am demanding a credible proof firstly attack was by NATO and secondly RAW, CIA and MOSSAD were involved.

    Just like Mumbai attacks, I using Pakistani logic that Pakistan should provide a credible proof. Aap Nachaye Tou Kala, Hum Nachaye Tou Mujra..Wah Twinkle Twinkle..

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  • Nov 26, 2011 - 10:44PM

    We have to stop all activities with NATO and isolate them………….next time he will think 100 times to do such kind of act……….So absurd NATO Recommend

  • A Fahran
    Nov 26, 2011 - 11:05PM

    @GHQ:
    Pakistan has been playing double game for 20 years by supporting Taliban and saying it supports peace. You keep your house in order by keeping your ISI in check. Remember we Afghans will not forget Rabbani’s death.
    Pakistan will learn its mistakes “violently” as you have just seen Now USA will not talk and will only act. Your soldiers are no match for either mighty US or Indian army. Only nation you can bully is Afghanistan -that will not happen anymore. Learn your nations mistakes before blaming others. Recommend

  • Bipul Rajput
    Nov 26, 2011 - 11:16PM

    People in the area comprising Pakistan HAVE NEVER stood up to invaders. History is a witness. Here’s how:

    Providence had tasked you all with the job of protecting the various native civilizations in Bharat. What what do you do – no resisting the Islamist invaders, instead you join them; over centuries, you grow the distance and in modern times, in hate against your mother civilization join the Americans to get arms to fight your mother civilization; you also ally with your mother civilization’s “enemy” with the dream of destroying Bharat.

    Anyway, may Brahma receive the souls of the departed soldiers.

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  • usman
    Nov 26, 2011 - 11:18PM

    This is an act of war…. not accident of freiendly fire…Recommend

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