War of words: MQM rebuts Mirza, blow by blow

Published: September 6, 2011

Mustafa Kamal addresses the media, answering allegations against the MQM. PHOTO: COURTESY MQM

KARACHI: 

Accusing Zulfiqar Mirza of driving an ethnic wedge between Sindhis and Mohajirs in the province, member of Muttahida Qaumi Movement’s (MQM) Coordination Committee Syed Mustafa Kamal said the former home minister should prove his allegations in a court of law.

The MQM lost 15, 000 workers during the 1992 military operation but never conspired against the country, Kamal said in a blow-by-blow rebuttal of Mirza’s charges during a marathon press conference held on Tuesday at the Khursheed Begum Secretariat. The MQM does not need a certificate of patriotism from anyone, he said.

Dismissing Mirza’s allegations that MQM chief Altaf Hussain had written to former British prime minister Tony Blair and asked for his assistance in disbanding the Inter-Services Intelligence, Kamal said that a similar letter had been attributed to slain Pakistan Peoples Party leader Benazir Bhutto – a letter that she had allegedly written to an American senator, Peter Galbraith. The MQM believes that the letter attributed to Bhutto was also fake, he said.

In fact, he added, the return address on the letter allegedly written by Hussain was also incorrect.

Responding to Mirza’s allegation regarding the involvement of MQM’s Senator Babar Khan Ghauri in theft of thousands of containers carrying Nato supplies, Kamal said that Mirza was the home minister at that time but did not lodge an FIR against this.

(Read: There he goes again – In another outburst, Mirza ups the ante against MQM)

He refuted the allegation, and questioned that, if the event did take place, why were Nato forces silent over theft on such a huge scale?

On the other hand, Kamal highlighted Mirza’s confession of issuing 300,000 arms licences, “not for aerial firing at celebrations,” and said that the hard-talking former minister is actually the one conspiring against Pakistan’s integrity and sovereignty.

In contrast, he said, the MQM and its chief are patriotic Pakistanis since Hussain was the first political leader to announce his support to forces fighting terrorism.

It was only later that all other political parties followed suit, he said.

Kamal called upon the Supreme Court, which is hearing a suo moto case on Karachi violence, to probe into the recovery of 18 people from the custody of target killers.

The chief justice should ask the federal and provincial governments who rescued the hostages, whom they had contacted and on whose orders the kidnappers released the abducted people, he said.

Kamal said that Baloch leader Lashkar Raisani criticised the government and the media for producing one Baloch suspect but did not speak against targeted killings of other ethnicities.

Kamal, who is more popularly known for his stint as Karachi’s Mayor, also pointed out that his party had endeavored to serve each and every person of the city – regardless of ethnicity and political affiliation. He said that even the representatives of other political parties who were part of the city’s administration hadn’t, and couldn’t criticize the MQM because they knew what the party had done for the city.

(Read: More Mayor, less Malik)

He said that, under the MQM, the city benefitted from development of infrastructure and all ethnicities had benefitted because of this. He also said that, during this time, the MQM also controlled the province’s police force and no one had even heard of the expression ‘target killings’.

Published in The Express Tribune, September 7th, 2011.

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Reader Comments (139)

  • Sep 6, 2011 - 11:19PM

    MQM finally levels scores. I am Impressed !

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  • Shahid Baloch
    Sep 6, 2011 - 11:23PM

    Being a Kachi Memon of Lyari at least I second what Mustafa has claimed about my area. He has done lots of work in Lyari constituency.

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  • Shayan
    Sep 6, 2011 - 11:26PM

    so the mayor is admitting ajmal paharis association with mqmRecommend

  • Interesting
    Sep 6, 2011 - 11:36PM

    Mustafa Kamal, great work!!! We need more people to point out the blatant lies that are being spread all around. If people had even a bit of common sense, they could see where Mirza’s statements don’t make sense.

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  • Azeem Sher
    Sep 6, 2011 - 11:37PM

    NOT a rebuttal. Sorry.

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  • Sep 6, 2011 - 11:39PM

    Zulfiqar Mirza and MQM both should shut up we are least interested in what the hell and who did what.. let us freaking live in peace!! stop creating hype over mourning situation of Karachi..

    @Tanzeel levels score..? It was crap.. 15000 mahajirs killed? lol any proofs.. where are they burried? any records of death toll on such big scale?? liars! Am mahajir too, what MQM says isnot all lie but most of it is!

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  • Sep 6, 2011 - 11:42PM

    @Shayan:
    Of course not. He has just told how things work in Police and asked why only an Urdu Speaker being singled out in J I T .

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  • Ali tanoli
    Sep 6, 2011 - 11:43PM

    mqm silency broke out finally i wonder some time educated mqm leaders some time speak
    childish and dumb street lang ?

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  • khurram
    Sep 6, 2011 - 11:53PM

    MQM cannot technically defenditself.How can it deny the authenticity of letter to tony blair.The letter is authenticated by BBC on its webpage.

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  • humby
    Sep 6, 2011 - 11:57PM

    Mustafa Kamal is not the real face of MQM, he’s just a poor little guy, so he thrown out in the ring time & again by the top leadership.
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  • Salman
    Sep 6, 2011 - 11:59PM

    i think he was trying to pressure media!!! Everyone know about them in karachi and what r they doingRecommend

  • ansar
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:06AM

    Please refrain from discriminating against any group of people on the basis of ethnicity or religion. This is akin to collective suicide.

    Personally I believe that all these ethnic labels of Sindhi, Punjabi, Balochi, Pathan etc., have from the very inception of Pakistan, been a bad idea, only serving to divide the people. We are all Pakistanis first and anything else comes second. If you are not inherently short sighted then please become one as a nation. That is the only way to progress and that is the only way for our collective survival.

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  • Qurbani ki Khal
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:11AM

    Zulfiqar mirza has announced another press conference in days or two he told that previous was just 10% evidences what he has so game is not over MQM Recommend

  • asad naqvi
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:12AM

    its a crap to save the image i can answer any blames by this way

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  • KARACHITE
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:17AM

    I HAVE FAITH IN MQM

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  • Bilal Taseer
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:20AM

    ‘I would blame you and pose more questions instead of answering yours’, seems to be the case here. Ultimately, hate will win and evil will triumph, at least for near future.

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  • Saad Durrani
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:22AM

    The way MQM is tackling this without Altaf’s active involvement shows that the party is more politically mature than its counterpart.

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  • Salman Orangiwala
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:26AM

    Mr.Miza’s immediate rejoinder ( Aaj Kamran Khan ke sath )” I belong to a wealthy family , while Mustafa Kamal was a petty telephone operator at nine -zero”

    Way of drawing the par ,Mirza Saeen !!!!!

    So , that was the real grievance ? Why educated telephone operators getting their way into assemblies challenging the writs of the feudals ?

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  • Al-Ajal ya Hujjat
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:26AM

    Neither is mqm innocent ,nor are the other parties(ppp,anp,pac) totally blameless. so the blame game is totally futile and irrelevant..it takes two to tango dude..im glad mqm stated their point of view though…until mqm and anp and ppp and pac are made to sit together and sort out their differences,karachi is going to suffer,..

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  • Mujib Abakhel
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:30AM

    Alas, they have broken the silence. It was required. Valid points raised by MQM.

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  • Nadir Butt
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:35AM

    I find it miserable that people can’t see through the nonsense of this press conference. The man had almost nothing to say about any of the allegations made against him.

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  • Sep 7, 2011 - 12:36AM

    MQM rocks.

    Everyone shocks.

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  • Pakistani
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:38AM

    Too late too little, this was a useless rant by the former mayor. There is an old proverb “When your in a hole, dont dig” and today MQM just did that. Once again MQM presented itself only representative of a Urdu Speaking, only talking about the murders of Urdu Speakers, over looking all other. Today Zulfiqar Mirza has been vindicated.

    @Tanzeel
    Only the mere mention of word MQM is enough to impress you, since your a registered MQM worker.

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  • Timour
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:38AM

    This was the worst press conference by the MQM I’ve seen in a long time….having seen MK’s diatribe in its entirety, I’m still confused whether they were trying to deny the letter or defend its contents since at nearly every point he would say that this is not wrong and is as per the MQM’s historical stance….Plus if their only defense is to lay allegations on other parties and question the JIT reports and finally raise issues already two decades old….well then they are treading on truly thin ice….

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  • Ameer Hamza
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:39AM

    Mustafa Kamal can just shout but he has failed to respond to one lingering question: Why Imran Farooq’s cabinet in London had a letter on Hakim Muhammad Said’s murder. Well, it came from the governor.

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  • Lolly
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:39AM

    this is surely the end of MQM now

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  • Mohammad Ali Siddiqui
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:41AM

    People of Pakistan have watched the live press conference and subsequent debate between Mr. Mustufa Kamal and Zulfiqar Mirza. They are the judge to determine who is right and who is wrong.

    The points highlighted by Mr. Mustufa Kamal have more weight than the allegations of Mr. Zulfiqar Mirza who has admitted himself that he has been left alone.

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  • Anonymous!
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:53AM

    khurram link plz

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  • Fahad Raza
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:54AM

    The war of word’s second round to MQM

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  • Omar
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:56AM

    It’s been 64 years since Pakistan was made and gained its independence from India. What amazes me (respectfully) is we still have a group of people who are calling themselves ‘Mohajirs’. There are at least two generations born in Pakistan within mohajirs. Don’t you find that ironic? How can you call yourself a Mohajir if you were born and raised in Pakistan and enjoy/face the same opportunities and challenges that every other Pakistani does? Why create the differentiation and rhetoric? It is these same tactics that have destroyed the concept of nationalism within Pakistan (let alone thinking of ourselves with other fellow Muslims as ONE UMMAH) and split people up by provinces/ethnicities/classes/language/etc. Our beloved Prophet SAW/PBUH created a Revolution when he brought the message to mankind having NO difference between us (in terms of Arab over non Arab, White over Black, Rich over Poor) except the ones who will bring back good deeds and their faith in Allah SWT. A concept was so new, so revolutionary, so democratic that it escaped Western countries while they were in the dark ages. Unfortunately we have learnt NOTHING from this teaching.

    WHY in the name of Allah are we still trying to create/label a separate group of people within Karachi? I have family in Karachi that have been settled in the lovely port city for the past four generations (pre-independence) if not more. My descendants (father’s side) were originally from Afghanistan but have proudly contributed as Pakistani nationals to the Pakistan Air Force, Pakistan Army (years ago when the institution was not as corrupt), Sindh Police (my grandfather was IG Police in Sindh prior to and after Pakistan gained independence) and have paid there share of taxes. They gave their life in duty to the service of Pakistan and represented Pakistan with their own lives being at risk.

    What saddens me the most is seeing the example of the Unites States: when September 11 happened (not debating who did it or why/how it happened) – it was amazing to see how every American banded together and were one as a nation. You did not hear in the media or otherwise: I am a Texan or I am from California, they all said WE ARE AMERICANS and they supported each other.

    Why can’t Pakistani’s realize that we have one country that requires ALL OF US to band together as ONE and HELP EACH OTHER as opposed to in-fighting and racism based on what province, tribe, class, ethnicity you belong too.

    WAKE UP PAKISTAN, FOR ALLAH’s SAKE WAKE UP.

    IT’S TIME TO UNITE, NOT CREATE DIFFERENCES.

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  • sam
    Sep 7, 2011 - 1:00AM

    Irrelevant talks nothing else.

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  • faraz
    Sep 7, 2011 - 1:12AM

    During the 1990s, most of the mohajirs were killed as a result of conflict between MQM-A and MQM-H.

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  • Zarmeena Ikram Babar
    Sep 7, 2011 - 1:16AM

    Since now so many allegations have been put forward against MQM, of which most are true yet are being silenced with the power of weapon, there is no turning back – No matter how hard MQM tries, it can’t rule out those allegations simply by calling them baseless -Wali Babar’s murder, Dr. Farooq’s murder and butchering of countless citizens of Karachi – there isn’t just one or two cases against MQM -lately they have proved a havoc of violence in Karachi and this is not what I am saying, this what every citizen of Karachi has witnessed -

    They can’t regain their so called good and socially responsive image -and neither there is any escape this time! Its high time and now they’ll have to pay !

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  • far
    Sep 7, 2011 - 1:23AM

    Mqm please go away and give us peace…..everybody is scared of you only through letters and comments we can point aggression

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  • Talha
    Sep 7, 2011 - 1:25AM

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Both these parties, MQM and PPP only speak the truth when they’re speaking against each other. We need to get rid of both of them and ANP if we’re to make Karachi a peaceful and livable place.

    Imran Khan, we need you in Karachi, please be our savior.

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  • hammad
    Sep 7, 2011 - 1:37AM

    @Tooba have you ever visited MQM’s graveyard behind Nine Zero, where Imran farooq got buried too. Go there and read the slates of graves than you’ll come to know how many got martyred. Think wisely before writing crap.

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  • hammad
    Sep 7, 2011 - 1:38AM

    @Khurram please provide us that web link of BBC …??

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  • A.Rehman
    Sep 7, 2011 - 1:42AM

    Well Done, Mr. Mustafa Kamal.”Truth Always Prevails”. Anti MQM elements/forces shall never be satisfied due to their blindness of hatred & racism.Recommend

  • yousuf
    Sep 7, 2011 - 1:50AM

    BBC is not a document authentication office.

    Its a news agency. BBC displayed the letter, they did not claim whether it was authentic or fake.

    Remember they also said Iraq has WMDs.

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  • Iftekhar
    Sep 7, 2011 - 1:51AM
  • Arzoo
    Sep 7, 2011 - 1:58AM

    These statements coming from such an organized and seemingly efficient party is extremely disappointing to say the least. Mr. Kamal needs to understand that the Media is not MQM’s Information Department or MQM’s Public Relations Department. To devise an effective information and communication policy to disseminate MQM’s policy and positions is MQM’s responsibility and as one of the leading parties in the nation it is incumbent upon them to do so. Their leaders need to take a note of it.

    Mr. Kamal first admits that “MQM had chosen to remain silent over allegations against it over the past week since it did not wish to get embroiled in a war of words.” Then he proceeds to state “that the media had been playing up the viewpoints put forward by Zulfiqar Mirza. Media anchors were deliberately holding a media trial of the MQM in their programs.” The explosive revelations by Dr. Zulfiqar Mirza were of such extreme nature that it was necessary for the MQM to give an appropriate and timely response. Having decided to wait now Mr. Kamal seems to be laying the blame at the feet of the Media. Not fair, I say.

    I did not see Mr. Kamal’s press conference on the tv but I can safely assume, given his past performances, that it must have been organized, balanced, and effective. However, reading his statements I feel there is much that remains to be desired. How can one “blame the media for ignoring the ISI and Army confessions of falsely blaming the MQM for harboring anti-state elements which had led operations against the MQM in 1992?” While almost everyone was startled when this news came out, it was primarily MQM’s responsibility to take the ball and run and highlight for the benefit of everyone to see that MQM was wrongly accused by no less than such an important institution as the Pakistan Army. But blaming the Media for his party’s failure to properly highlight that issue???? No, Mr. Kamal, you can’t do that.

    Media has served everyone’s favorite whipping boy for much too long. It is time that we appreciate and acknowledge the sacrifices media people make by covering many events by risking their life and limbs. The recent cases of Wali Khan Babar and Saleem Shehzad are just the tip of the iceberg. If it was not for the media we will not have this forum to discuss these issues. No one in the world can pay your monetarily enough to take the risks media people take. So the least we can do is to say THANK YOU.

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  • Shayan
    Sep 7, 2011 - 2:15AM

    @Tanzeel: JIT is not just police but also includes ISI.

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  • Ikramuddin Akbar
    Sep 7, 2011 - 2:26AM

    Truth speaks for itself, truth never needs a holy book to be advocated. What we have heard and listened today by Mustafa Kamal is the real and true voice of the most courageous people of Karachi who are fighting on several fronts, not only for their party with a vision but also for their own survival.
    God bless and keep all the evils at bay from “us”.

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  • Mani
    Sep 7, 2011 - 2:28AM

    Zulfiqar Miraz is preparing a plot to break up pakistan and start civil war like Libya in Karachi. Just Imagine that people come out to protest on streets and Army or Rangers open fire and Kill 1000 people then what is happening in Libya you will see in Karachi. Conspiracy against Pakistan and MQM has been initiated. May Allah save Pakistan and our Muslim Brothers.

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  • Sep 7, 2011 - 2:29AM

    zufikar mirza very bad comments to Urdu Speaker……..zufikar mirza part of lyari aman committee………………

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  • kala_bacha
    Sep 7, 2011 - 2:31AM

    @khurram:
    the authencity of letter is the same as Asif Zardari accept the 60 million dollars from swiss bank and then all the records were flush in european rivers.
    the authencity of letter is the same as “itifaq group of industeries” from 1 factory to became 30 in less then 10 years or Nawaz sharif operating steel mills in Saudia Arabia after been flown overnight with the help of Arabs.
    the authencity of letter is the same as Monis Elahi and NICL scam, Punjab bank scandal.
    The authencity of letter is the same as Haj Scandal by Aokaf Minister!
    The authencity of letter is the same as it was shown in media in 1992 “Jinnah pur” map and then the same army general accept it was hand made at Kalma chook painter/ graphic designer.
    the list goes on if you want I can forward you personally at your door step!

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  • Ricky
    Sep 7, 2011 - 3:01AM

    Congratulations to MQM for Fantastic Reply! Really A Truth

    We Need True Peoples Like MQM who Can Speak Truth In Pakistan.Recommend

  • Ricky
    Sep 7, 2011 - 3:06AM

    BBC Don’t have any letter the link which is said everywhere that BBC placed a letter on their website is not at all accessible and BBC is not said a single time they placed any letter regarding MQM on their site. They denied itRecommend

  • Faiz Ahmed
    Sep 7, 2011 - 3:17AM

    Mustufa Bhai Great Work
    May Allah give MQM all the strength

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  • Basit Khan
    Sep 7, 2011 - 3:49AM

    The headline says ‘baseless’ allegations. When has Express tribune conducted their investigation to find out that allegations were baseless ?

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  • Mansoor Ahmed
    Sep 7, 2011 - 4:05AM

    We Are With u Altaf Hussain BhaiRecommend

  • Hadi Ali Khan
    Sep 7, 2011 - 4:24AM

    @Pakistani
    Hello Mr. ALL-SO-RIGHT,
    where were you when your hero Zulfiqar Mirza was ranting Sindhi nationalism all the time in his conferences? At least the MQM-er spoke of Pakistani. The thug ZM didn’t even talk about Pakistan except being vocal on Sindhi base and nationalism. Us waqt Pakistaniat kidhar thi bhai tumhari? Hypocrite, you are. You should remove that racist approach of yours, and stop being deliberately blind-folded.

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  • An open eye
    Sep 7, 2011 - 4:36AM

    Awesome reply. People need to be reminded of who is right and wrong. Enough of this foolish dramatic rant of ZM. And those people who have blind-folded their eyes with racism; please get a life. Check all the evidences and until and unless proven guilty by the courts, none is a criminal. So it is better for now that people leave this absurd discussion and go back to work. This same guy ZM has deprived the Sindhis-for whom he vehemently claims to be a saviour- of basic necessities of life. People can go and witness themselves as to how much work has been done in interior Sindh. And enough of anti-MQM rhetoric without judgments from the court.The court passes a judgement, not the pseudo-intellectuals sitting on TV shows commenting as if they care about Pakistan. Half of the problem is due to these anchors. Their shows are nothing short of drama; and people have now started taking them as a drama too.

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  • Nadeem
    Sep 7, 2011 - 4:51AM

    Unfortunately, Urdu speaking people have become second classs citizens in Pakistan. The hight of it is that they are being brutally killed and still being blamed. Only undu speking people can be called “Naked and Hungry” by a prominant official and ex-minister of Pakistan biggest polotical party. Ask yourself this questin, can any other ethinic group can be labeld and named like this by a leader like Zulfiqar Mirza.

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  • DON DAVIS
    Sep 7, 2011 - 4:56AM

    party people support each other, find the solution or find the black sheep insideRecommend

  • Wajjosim
    Sep 7, 2011 - 4:59AM

    It is all about “Bhatta” war, who gets the more out of Karachi, remember Jamiat gave arms culture, Zia ul haq gave us herion and KK, MQM gave us Bhatta culture. MQM was collecting Bhatta on a normal pace but zulfiqar mirza got greedy and wants to get so much in a short period of time. MQM does n’t like to share their “Bhatta”, now innocent citizens are paying debts by their lives. I belong to mohajir family and our business victimized and destroyed by MQM’s bhatta collectors. If you need survival in Karachi city buy at least one piece for the worst future situation neither MQM or any other AH going to save you & your family from ethenic war which is coming pretty soon. Karachi is the initial picture of dark Africa.

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  • aysha majeed
    Sep 7, 2011 - 5:19AM

    I have heard my mother saying this persian proverb, ‘jawab-e- JIHALAAN, bashat khamooshe’, an ignorant should not be dignified with a response, but meted out with silence.
    The way Mr. Mirza speaks, contributes very little in establishing him as a thinking individual. What we need is a person who can actually build bridges and not invite public attention for personal gains. Please use the judicial system to level all allegations and not media. Also, i would like to request our media to establish and practice a code of conduct where air time is made available to individuals who mean serious good and not sensationalism. MQM may be over in terms of public support public may not be interested, but please Karachi deserves some serious minded people who can be trusted when they open their mouths. I would like to know what Abdus Sattar Edhi thinks of the whole story. He is the only person in Karachi one can trust.

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  • Maulana Diesel
    Sep 7, 2011 - 6:55AM

    What about the letter that Altaf hussain sent to Tony Blair? It is posted on the BBC Urdu website. Is the MQM leadership going to clarify that matter or do they consider that to be a conspiracy hatched by Mirza and the BBC?

    I do not care about Punjabi/Pathan/Muhajir etc but I do care about Pakistan. If that letter is authentic then I will be greatly disappointed.

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  • danial
    Sep 7, 2011 - 7:44AM

    what ever KAmal has uttered,does not correspond to the allegations accused of by Mirza .he has not told about his party position whether it will rejoin again the goverment or drama will be continuned .Recommend

  • Zubair
    Sep 7, 2011 - 7:53AM

    I red all comment and disappoint what we r talking and why please its not about any panjabi’sindhi phathan or blochi it’s about Pakistan.every one is pakistani….those ppl who r doing wrong with Pakistan we youth of Pakistan have stop them to save our loving Pakistan .don’t fight think and save Pakistan.Recommend

  • yasmeen khalid
    Sep 7, 2011 - 8:18AM

    zinda baad MQM

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  • Someone
    Sep 7, 2011 - 8:38AM

    Why is an attack on MQM always percieved as an attack on the Muhajir identity? Curious to know.

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  • ihtisham khan
    Sep 7, 2011 - 8:40AM

    this article has changed…a few hours ago it was totally different….he was talking about pahari and stuff..now this is completely changed…express tribune..well done….what happened??>..

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  • Born Again Pakistani
    Sep 7, 2011 - 8:50AM

    I believe systematically Urdu speaking community is being cornered. All of us feel under siege from all sides.

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  • xOYA
    Sep 7, 2011 - 9:10AM

    Mustafa Kamal WELL DONE . I AM IMPRESSED .
    yes i agree we all should ask the Govt Rehman Malik who did they speak to to let go of those kidnapped people ????

    wake up people Our Govt is involved in all the trgate killings & Kidnapping that is y they start when they want & it ends when they ( Rehman Malik ) wants .

    WHO DID THEY SPEAK TO ??
    WHO LET THOSE KIDNAPPED PEOPLE GO ??
    WHY DID THE GOVT LET IT HAPPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE ??

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  • Ikramuddin Akbar
    Sep 7, 2011 - 9:10AM

    @Zarmeena Ikram Babar:
    LADY! just tell me one thing,have you written that just to publish your name, i take pity on you.There is a court in Pakistan where all the cases could be finalised but honestly tell me have you gone so far in hypocrisy that you even cant remember the incident that took place at Qasba and Aligarh, which had nothing to do with politics They were just simple families.Who will dare to ask the CJ to take notice for that crime.Yes i am drawing your attention towards the atrocities committed on the innocent families after stranding them for almost a week,without water, food and medicine were they not your hapless Muslim brothers and sisters.,mercilessly killed by rocket launchers and weapons. from the KATTY PAHARI,you did not mention that WHILE MENTIONING YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT OTHER’S CRIMES.I agree with you that if “someone is seer other is a sawa seer”.It would happen in hatred but not as an organized crime against innocent hapless people,think over it.

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  • xOYA
    Sep 7, 2011 - 9:12AM

    WE want Mustafa Kamal back as Mayor of Karachi please.

    These good Roads all thanks to him otherwise yesterday Karachi would have been under water
    please bring him back so that he can Improve roads & structures of other places too in Karachiiiiiiiiiii

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  • Adeel Ahmed
    Sep 7, 2011 - 9:18AM

    MQM denies the letter writen to Tony Blair by Altaf Hussain by giving justification that address mentioned on letter is not of MQM sectt.

    Its lie, may be it changed now but it was.

    Visit MQM offcial website: http://www.mqm.org/English-News/Dec-2000/news001208a.htm

    MQM SEEKS VIEW OF THE WORKERS AND PEOPLE WHETHER TO REMAIN PART OF THE ALLIANCE FOR RESTORATION OF DEMOCRACY (A R D).
    Karachi-8 December 2000
    The Co-ordination Committee of Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) considered in detail the questions and apprehensions of its workers and people in regards to its continuation in the A R D in its emergency meeting held at the Party’s Central Office, commonly known as “Nine Zero”.
    The MQM has always taken decisions in agreement with the views of its workers and electorates in accordance with the democratic norms having regards of the importance of the views of the people.
    The Co-ordination Committee has therefore, sought the views of its workers and the people whether to remain a part of the Alliance for the Restoration of Democracy (ARD). It would take a decision having received the views of the workers and people soon on its future strategy.
    The Co-ordination Committee has appealed to the workers and people to forward their views immediately to the Central Office of the MQM situated at 494/8, Azizabad, Karachi either in writing or through phone or fax on the following numbers: Phone No: 631 3690, 632 9900, Fax. No: 632 9955.
    The workers and the public could also send their views to the MQM International Secretariat, London on the following address.
    MQM International Secretariat
    70 Colindale Avenue, London NW9 5ES, United Kingdom.
    Phone No: 00 44 20 8358 9000, Fax. No: 00 44 20 8905 9527
    Email: mqm@mqm.org
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  • MAD
    Sep 7, 2011 - 9:31AM

    The DR isnt all that confident anymore now is he.

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  • kiran
    Sep 7, 2011 - 9:32AM

    ur very rite Basit Khan…..secondly y MQM took 10 days to answer ….probably they were writting the script……..

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  • gr0w up!
    Sep 7, 2011 - 9:36AM

    Mustafa Kamal Rocks!!!
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  • Dr. Who!
    Sep 7, 2011 - 9:45AM

    A new and improved Fig leaf formula by MQM:
    “We deny BB’s letter, now you deny Altaf Bhai’s letter.”
    Not so fast Mr. Kamal, the fig leaf is too small!

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  • pfaraz
    Sep 7, 2011 - 9:50AM

    All this saga leads to one thing…divide and rule…..
    earlier it was religous sects now its politics sect.. no party worker can stand the opposition party worker
    great work by politiician….
    saying in urdu tht goes like “in ki dukan aisay hi chalay gi” as long as this muhajir, sindhi pashtun baloch segregation continues these parties will continue to flourish…
    even education failed to educate masses failure of within a failure…..
    poor nation poor me

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  • Ikramuddin Akbar
    Sep 7, 2011 - 9:57AM

    @Arzoo:
    I think it useless to go on harangue as you did on your tirade to Mustafa Kamal.and i also agree with you that media is not on anyone’s service but you cant shut your eyes on reality.What went right after Mirza’s conference is that every anchor person is trying to ignite the the leaders asking them in the way” AAP KAB ZM KEY ILZAAM KO IDALAT MAIN LEJAYENGEY” ” AKHIR IN ILZAMAAT KI KOI SHUNWAI TO HONI CHAHIYE ” ” KARACHI MAIN AAAG LAGI HUI HEY” and many more, let me ask you who has given them the rights to pressurize their guests leaders to open a case against MQM .right after ZM’s press conference the anchor of “CAPITAL TALK” engaged ZM for his program and invited Mr. Ansar abbasi and Mr, Mallick.and they debated the conference that was merely a joke in a private gathering No doubt media person put their lives at risk while trying to provide us news and their role is appreciable but you will agree that there are some journalists and anchor person who go far beyond in prejudice.

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  • gr0w up!
    Sep 7, 2011 - 10:10AM

    ok people this is the link to the letter allegedly sent by altaf hussain to tony blair HAPPY READING ABUSING AND CURSING folks!!!

    but remember BBC was the authentic place where on September 6, 1965 it was announced that India hyas taken over lahore and they would celebrate in the gymkhana thats how authentic the news there is. The letter is real or fake only tony blair or hussain can tell so relax!!!

    http://www.pkhope.com/imprint-of-altaf-hussains-letter-to-tony-blair/

    Also, as far as England is concerned you can even write a letter to the Queen TODAY and you will get a thank you for your letter kind of reply from the queen signed by the “Lady in Waiting” (kind of secretary) so anyone you me whoever can write a letter. The letter on this link has no formal signatures or anything. AS PAKISTANIS WE ARE AN INDEPENDENT NATION EVERY INDIVIDUAL IS ENTITLED TO HIS/HER OPINION. WE ARE THE NATION WHOSE FAVORITE PAST TIME IS TO CRITISICE OTHERS :)

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  • gr0w up!
    Sep 7, 2011 - 10:13AM

    but remember BBC was the authentic place where on September 6, 1965 it was announced that India hyas taken over lahore and they would celebrate in the gymkhana thats how authentic the news there is. The letter is real or fake only tony blair or hussain can tell so relax!!!

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  • Hid
    Sep 7, 2011 - 10:16AM

    Mirza’s earlier comments about urdu-speaking migrants and latter statements clearly prove that he is trying to create a rift between ethnicities in Karachi. Recommend

  • Ibrar Ahmed
    Sep 7, 2011 - 10:20AM

    I’ll say that ppl must open there eyes and think Practically. Did anyone find the clash among the Mahajir and the Sindhi in interior Sindh. As many of the Mahajirs are living in Sukker, Hyderabad, Mirpurkass and in many other Cities. why Every Party is interested in the Karachi just because of the black money in the shape of “BHATTA” which was firstly given to the MQM now there are two another partners PPP and ANP so If you divide the money among the three which was of the one party then the Clash will take place.
    More over I’ll say that please keep yourself away from the every Criminal Party and Think for the betterment of Pakistan and for the Nation.

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  • Sep 7, 2011 - 10:39AM

    @khurram:
    Please get your facts straight. Letter is not authenticated by BBC, even they have called it alleged letter.

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  • Dee
    Sep 7, 2011 - 10:44AM

    Mustafa Kamal we believe you!

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  • Sep 7, 2011 - 11:10AM

    @Maulana Diesel:
    BBC site has just used that letter as a reference for NEWS. They haven’t endorsed authenticity of letter infact they called it alleged letter.

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  • kamran
    Sep 7, 2011 - 11:43AM

    Omar you are right that we should not say ourself Mohajirs and it is really ironic.But there is another reality why there is a difference in quota in urban and rural sindh it is not else where and we the urbanites in sindh suffers who are mostly urdu speaking and we did not make this quota system rather suffering from them somebody else has created differentiation no nobody seems to say about this unjust.

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  • Born Again Pakistani
    Sep 7, 2011 - 11:47AM

    Nothing changed with creation of Pakistan… before 1947 there was a group of muslims that were having fun… rest were persecuted and today also the situation is the same on either side of the divide. Partition cannot be undone but the dream sure is stale and smells….

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  • Ee
    Sep 7, 2011 - 11:48AM

    What Zulfiqar Mirza said about Liaquat Ali Khan is shameful.
    In his hate for Urdu Speaking people, Mirza said that Shaheed Liaquat Ali Khan’s premiership started the accend of corrupt people.
    It pains me no end to hear this. Shaheed Liaquat Ali Khan was the Prime Minister when he was shot dead and when his Sherwani was opened up, the Kurta inside was patched. Such was the simple lifestyle of the man, unlike today’s leaders wearing designer suits. Liaqat Alik Han was a Nawab in India but he did not make a claim for his property in India. He had said that his name should be the last in the list of any such claims. He did not use political leverage to raise sugar mills here.

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  • Born Again Pakistani
    Sep 7, 2011 - 11:50AM

    @Adeel Ahmed:
    My only concern with Altaf Hussain’s reach to Tony Blair is that he wrote a letter… he should have spoken on the phone… No concern other than that… So whether he sent it or not… I dont care if he did he should have exercised caution.

    How did ZM get hold of it?

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  • Cynic
    Sep 7, 2011 - 11:55AM

    My goodness, what with accusations and counter accusations, the Media is having a feild day! This situation is the dream of every Fourth Estate the world over:D Actually, MK did not counter any of Mirza’s accusations, he merely aired MQM’s greiviances with a list of their ow accusations. Nothing new, nothing to make us sit up and take notice..at least Mirza Sahib had shock value :); forget their muted response this time around, which is probably because they have been hemmed in and trussed up with no room to manouvre. Poor MK, thrown out to the wolves! He really should campaig as an azad umeedwar, I promise him my vote and all my best wishes!Recommend

  • Adil
    Sep 7, 2011 - 11:56AM

    It’s shocking to see how sections of the media are terming MQM’s rebuttal as ‘befitting’, ‘blow by blow’, etc. The poor guy couldnt even read properly what was handed over to him!! And u call that a befitting reply??

    It’s also shocking to see how people still fail to recognize the treacheries and atrocities that the MQM has committed. For all those young ones out there, ask your parents how things were in Karachi before 1985-86; i.e. the pre-MQM era. Karachi couldnt have been a more peaceful city.

    What happened last night was a reply in bullets to cannonballs released by Mirza. The MQM could only come up with allegations of small crimes…burning of buses, killing of certain crimimals, etc. THEY HAVE YET TO RESPOND TO ACTS OF TREASON THEY HAVE COMMITTED – the letter to Blair and breaking up of Pakistan…

    And btw, no one can speak the way Zulfiqar Mirza does. Even if u put the entire MQM one the other scale. He handled an army of journalists and a plethora of hard-hitting questions alone for 2.5 hours. The MQM’s reply should have been somewhat close to the 2.5 hour mark. But they had nothing to say….

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  • Adil
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:03PM

    The mqm doesnt represent all mohajirs. Please note that!! Including the mqm which keeps on claiming they stand for all mohajirs. You guys dont! Period!Recommend

  • Adeel Ahmed
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:37PM

    Finally, MQM own AJmal Pahari and defend by saying “us waqt India ka VISA asani sai lag jata tha” WooW. Mairai rekatives hain par bari mushkil sai lagta hai. Also, deny NATO container case despite proved by FBR and Supreme court.

    MQM denies the letter writen to Tony Blair by Altaf Hussain by giving justification that address mentioned on letter is not of MQM sectt.

    LIED by MQM, may be it changed now but it was.

    Visit MQM offcial website: http://www.mqm.org/English-News/Dec-2000/news001208a.htm

    MQM SEEKS VIEW OF THE WORKERS AND PEOPLE WHETHER TO REMAIN PART OF THE ALLIANCE FOR RESTORATION OF DEMOCRACY (A R D).
    Karachi-8 December 2000
    The Co-ordination Committee of Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) considered in detail the questions and apprehensions of its workers and people in regards to its continuation in the A R D in its emergency meeting held at the Party’s Central Office, commonly known as “Nine Zero”.
    The MQM has always taken decisions in agreement with the views of its workers and electorates in accordance with the democratic norms having regards of the importance of the views of the people.
    The Co-ordination Committee has therefore, sought the views of its workers and the people whether to remain a part of the Alliance for the Restoration of Democracy (ARD). It would take a decision having received the views of the workers and people soon on its future strategy.
    The Co-ordination Committee has appealed to the workers and people to forward their views immediately to the Central Office of the MQM situated at 494/8, Azizabad, Karachi either in writing or through phone or fax on the following numbers: Phone No: 631 3690, 632 9900, Fax. No: 632 9955.
    The workers and the public could also send their views to the MQM International Secretariat, London on the following address.
    MQM International Secretariat
    70 Colindale Avenue, London NW9 5ES, United Kingdom.
    Phone No: 00 44 20 8358 9000, Fax. No: 00 44 20 8905 9527
    Email: mqm@mqm.org

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  • Born Again Pakistani
    Sep 7, 2011 - 12:39PM

    @Tanzeel Ahmad @Khurram: Suppose it is right… So what will you all do now? Is there anything else left? The lot disrespect the mandate and we are maligned by low lives like ZM… I feel sick. I have a question to my folks.. WHY were they duped into this mess?

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  • Aristo
    Sep 7, 2011 - 1:00PM

    The Urdu speaking community or the immigrant community from India at large living in Karachi is unfortunately not united and hence being cornered and labelled as traitors since 1947. This community should have been united on one agenda point that they will always work in the community’s interest and align it with the states interest but they rather disintegrated into supporters of JI, PPP, bureaucracy, businessmen and the armed forces. Despite being members the above mentioned parties, they should have given priority to their community, this way Karachi would have still been the capital of Pakistan and this community would have been at the helm of affairs as compared to the establishment that has literally destroyed the purpose of Pakistan’s existence.Recommend

  • Yasser Khan
    Sep 7, 2011 - 1:46PM

    @toobahatif:
    Why does anyone need to provide proof of thousands of innocent Mohajir youths killed in a 10 year long operation to wipe out MQM to you. The like of you would probably LOL at the figure of million muhajirs killed in the establishment of Pakistan. You may believe whatever you want, but no one can detach Mohajirs from MQM. We know they are the only party to speak out our grievances. Come next elections and MQM would once again sweep the polls in Karachi and Hyderabad be they held under military or NATO~!

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  • Falak
    Sep 7, 2011 - 2:29PM

    Irony is that every is lying except MQM. Every one is racist weather they belong to any area of Pakistan except one party. I agree with the response of MQM but they did not even mention the Journalist murder.I think every one wants country apart except MQM…………. WOW!

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  • Sameer
    Sep 7, 2011 - 3:36PM

    More Firewroks to some in few days!!! wait n watch…..

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  • Adeel Ahmed
    Sep 7, 2011 - 4:07PM

    Finally, MQM own AJmal Pahari and defend by saying “us waqt India ka VISA asani sai lag jata tha” WooW. Mairai rekatives hain par bari mushkil sai lagta hai. Also, deny NATO container case despite proved by FBR and Supreme court.

    MQM denies the letter writen to Tony Blair by Altaf Hussain by giving justification that address mentioned on letter is not of MQM sectt.
    LIED by MQM , may be it changed now but it was at the letter time.

    Visit MQM offcial website: http://www.mqm.org/English-News/Dec-2000/news001208a.htm

    MQM SEEKS VIEW OF THE WORKERS AND PEOPLE WHETHER TO REMAIN PART OF THE ALLIANCE FOR RESTORATION OF DEMOCRACY (A R D).
    Karachi-8 December 2000
    The Co-ordination Committee of Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) considered in detail the questions and apprehensions of its workers and people in regards to its continuation in the A R D in its emergency meeting held at the Party’s Central Office, commonly known as “Nine Zero”.
    The MQM has always taken decisions in agreement with the views of its workers and electorates in accordance with the democratic norms having regards of the importance of the views of the people.
    The Co-ordination Committee has therefore, sought the views of its workers and the people whether to remain a part of the Alliance for the Restoration of Democracy (ARD). It would take a decision having received the views of the workers and people soon on its future strategy.
    The Co-ordination Committee has appealed to the workers and people to forward their views immediately to the Central Office of the MQM situated at 494/8, Azizabad, Karachi either in writing or through phone or fax on the following numbers: Phone No: 631 3690, 632 9900, Fax. No: 632 9955.
    The workers and the public could also send their views to the MQM International Secretariat, London on the following address.
    MQM International Secretariat
    70 Colindale Avenue, London NW9 5ES, United Kingdom.
    Phone No: 00 44 20 8358 9000, Fax. No: 00 44 20 8905 9527
    Email: mqm@mqm.org
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  • Adeel Ahmed
    Sep 7, 2011 - 4:09PM

    For information of all MQM supporters, Sindh Urban and Rural Quota get revised approval after every 5 years from Sindh provincial assembly and I congratulate all MQM supporters that MQM give its vote in favour of quota system in March, 2011 in Sindh Assembly.

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  • Nauman
    Sep 7, 2011 - 4:12PM

    Shabash Mustafa Bhae , G A Altaf bhae , G A MQM

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  • Sep 7, 2011 - 4:12PM

    MQM lied about its previous international secretariat at 70 Colindale Avenue, London NW9 5ES, United Kingdom. This is the address on the letter written to Tony Blair then British Prime Minister in Sep 2001. This can be confirmed from MQM’s website at mqm.org.

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  • Hajra sheikh
    Sep 7, 2011 - 4:23PM

    Mustafa kamal- the best that could happen to karachi!!! we want you back!

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  • Shayan
    Sep 7, 2011 - 5:08PM

    @Tanzeel:
    I am not. I am sick of mqm warning of the consequences if they are criticized. The problem is we are already facing the worst of them

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  • Mani
    Sep 7, 2011 - 5:10PM

    V LOVE U MUSTAFA KAMAL….

    DAIR SE AYE PER DURST AYE…B/c You have to prove other people that MQM is Loyel for Pakistan. Now MQM does not represents only Mahajir.. MQM is for all Pakistani people..Mutteheda Qoumi Movement.

    Muhajir are already supporting you now its time to get support of all others like sindi, punjabi, pakhtoon, baloch etc…

    GO IN COURT AND PROVE YOURSELF…
    MY BEST WISHES FOR YOU…

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  • Shayan
    Sep 7, 2011 - 5:12PM

    @Salman Orangiwala:
    Educated telephone operator ???. Is that the qualification needed to run a city of millions.

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  • Shayan
    Sep 7, 2011 - 5:24PM

    If it is proved that MQM is involved in Imran Farooqs murder, would the Urdu speaking lot still defend Altaf Hussain or term it as a conspiracy?

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  • Salman Orangiwala
    Sep 7, 2011 - 6:01PM

    When citation is made here at this forum on the media being somewhat prejudiced ,it is just not flukes ! Jsut look how Mr.Adeel Ahmed is being entertained with his repetetive posting a same comment with a reference to MQM’s address .
    @Mr.Adeel Ahmed , pls stop portraying yourself who you are not .

    It is simple , even the insanest Muhajir , no matter how much (s)he is in disagreement with MQM , will never support the Urban/Rural racist quota which was one of the core reason of the alienation of Muhajirs .

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  • Shayan
    Sep 7, 2011 - 6:43PM

    @Hajra sheikh: No we don’t.

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  • Sep 7, 2011 - 6:52PM

    MQM’s dishonest statement about thousands of Nato containers that are indeed missing and the case is still pending with SC. Keep in mind that MQM’s senator Babar Khan Ghouri has been Federal Minister for Ports and Shipping since 2004.Recommend

  • Salman Orangiwala
    Sep 7, 2011 - 6:57PM

    @Shayan , u jsut jumped to the last part brother .

    Read carefully , it is telephone operator at nine-zero not one of your trading office .

    Who cares if you are a PhD or an HSc , if you deliver .
    And howyou forgot the fake dgree holders “representing ” Punjab KP and Interior Sindh, in the assemblies and none from MQM in those list .Obviously you won’t find it coomndable as usual .

    Ahem ….BTW if a person with dubious credntials can be the President ,……why not….??????

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  • Saad
    Sep 7, 2011 - 7:04PM

    Even before the press conference ended, MQM websites have revealed that the address was infact true as shown in the letter. MQM did not answer any points raised by Zulfikar Mirza including the murder of a journalist. All they did was repeat the atrocities suffered by Muhajirs at the hand of establishment, failing to explain what is the connection between Muhajirs suffering and MQM?

    This was the most unimpressive press conference ever by MQM, MK was reading from the paper humiliating himself. Furthermore he was continuously threatening media people by saying sentences like hum dekh lein ge, Quaid ne nahi roka hota tou phir apne andaaz mein jawab dete and lastly what ever happened with freedom of speech? Dont MQM people say every thing against Zardari, Nawaz Sharif, Imran Khan and everyone else?

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  • Saad
    Sep 7, 2011 - 7:06PM

    @Salman Orangiwala:

    I think you didnt listen to what he was saying, he was responding to the allegations by MK about Zulfikar Mirza’s source of wealth and he responded by tell his source and askling for MK’s source of wealth in return.

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  • Saad
    Sep 7, 2011 - 7:18PM

    @Tanzeel:
    You are easily impressed bro. What was with the not so veiled threats, the lies about their address which is on their website links, the whining about criticism of Altaf Hussain when they critcize other party leaders all the time, the Geo reporter and lastly the higly unimpressive paper reading?

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  • Born Again Pakistani
    Sep 7, 2011 - 7:56PM

    @Shayan:
    Where is it proven?

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  • Sanya Karachi
    Sep 7, 2011 - 8:10PM

    Mr.Mustafa Kamal people are not interested in the history of MQM come on answer the allegations by ZM, Mr.Mirza just spoke about target killings and target killers, he accused his own party members .That was nothing LISSANI in his press conference…….the press conference by Mustafa Kamal was meaningless..Recommend

  • Ikramuddin Akbar
    Sep 7, 2011 - 9:23PM

    Very strange! we are dying to know why MQM did not response Mirza’s allegations one by one, some of us are portraying Mirza As ( NAUZUBILLAH)a mesenger from Allah.MQM repeatedly told the media that they consider Mirza’s allegations as nonsense and are not willing to response, with compulsion. sorry guys this was not an examination hall and Mirza was not conducting the course, it was not MQM’s sacred duty to answer each and every blame which Mirza laid out. It was not a live debate b/w Ppp and MQM, even it was not a court. .You should not go in praising a man to the level of worshiping him.you should know that 90 % “Awami” leaders from Punjab and Sind have a criminal background,if you dont know that doesnot matter, the whole Pakistan and the world know that.What a shame.I dont say that we can find only pious leaders in MQM but their past is clear and clean. but we dont have the heart to admit that as they are not”Son of the soil” and are uprooted people.If we read the shameful history of these feudal leaders at least we would not have gone selling every word of Mirza with a high tag . Wait and see. Mirza represents majority of those people who wed their women with Quran .What do you expect from him.He bluntly insulted MK saying as a man from a lower family background .Does it suit a leader who compares himself with HAZRAT Imam Hussain. I take pity on them who is worshiping him.Recommend

  • Ikramuddin Akbar
    Sep 7, 2011 - 9:47PM

    @Shayan:
    You should not be complexed of being a telephone operator, its a profession and a post, for a living ,what degrees most of the American presidents did have? One of the American General Who took part and earned fame in ” desert storm” used to work as a waiter in his father’s restaurant. There are a lot of people with meagre education ran countries with their vision and courage and sanity. not by having any University degrees.If a president can run a country having fake degrees why cant a gentle man run a city with honesty? Recommend

  • Shayan
    Sep 7, 2011 - 10:11PM

    @Salman Orangiwala: by your argument the standard for office bearer in PPP and MQM is the same. MQMs best answer is mostly by drawing parallels and asking why are they the topic of discussion.

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  • Salman Orangiwala
    Sep 8, 2011 - 12:10AM

    “what is the connection between Muhajirs suffering and MQM? ”
    @Saad

    Dont tell me you are from Battikalloa , Srilanka or Debroogarh ,India ?
    Your ill-information donot even qualify for a rejoinder .

    Maybe not 100% .So ? Hope you understand what ‘[Absolute Majority ” means

    And yes please ask Sanya Karachi and Adil to accompany you to attain the level of Nirvana of knowledge and truth . .Recommend

  • shuaib
    Sep 8, 2011 - 1:31AM

    Please go on mqm website yourself go on archives section on left hand side and go into year 2000 archives on 26th october there is news which says “what is nazaria pakistan” by altaf hussain and on the bottom that particular news it very clearly has address of Colindale Avenue! This was same address on the letter which Zulfi Mirza was referring to and mqm was saying Colindale avenue is wrong address therefore letter is fabrication. I mean what a joke their own website proves that Colindale was correct address!

    http://www.mqm.org/

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  • Raza Mujtaba
    Sep 8, 2011 - 2:36AM

    Allegations meet Allegations…. what is interesting is that neither party denies. Its like Mirza calling MQM terrorists and rather than denying it MQM comes up with counter allegations… This Proves what ever Mirza said is true. Mr. Mustafa Kamal you are a good man but please leave this fascist party.Recommend

  • Ikramuddin Akbar
    Sep 8, 2011 - 2:45AM

    @Aristo:
    Right! your notion is very true, i dont know whether u are Urdu speaking or not, b/c we dont expect a non Urdu speaker to have said that .Anyway i would like to add something more. Along with Urdu speaking people from different areas of India a lot of Gujrati and Junagadhi people migrated to karachi also, although they have a strong community system within them and live peacefully,but they are also Immigrants,What I wish to say is that to strengthen power and unity among these people and for prevailing a better ethical atmosphere in Karachi, why cant there be a “URDU-GUJRATI ITTEHAD”, here, like “PUNJABI-PAKHTOON ITTEHAD” which has very effectively been working here and of course have been paying off.This will ease the way to acquire jobs and will provide more room for the needy to have different jobs and also businesses will be flourished.

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  • Ikramuddin Akbar
    Sep 8, 2011 - 3:22AM

    @Saad:

    “what is the connection b/w Mohajir suffering and MQM”
    Dear you don’t have to be logical simply solving this problem.Very simple,
    It’s the same as an ANP suffering,and later maurning by ZM, as saying” AIK “PATHAAN” KHUBSURAT BACHHA QATAL KARDIYA GAYA”

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  • Dr. Who!
    Sep 8, 2011 - 6:09AM

    @Basit Khan:
    Khan Sahab: The quotation marks are a polite journalistic jargon indicating that they don’t believe that allegations were baseless; rather it was the assertion made by Mr. Kamal and that ET was conveying it’s subtle disagreement.
    It is called ” to read between the lines.”
    But it seems that it had to be “spelled out.”

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  • Dr. Who!
    Sep 8, 2011 - 7:06AM

    If Dr. Mirza made false allegations against MQM and about Altaf Hussain’s letter to Tony Blair published by BBC on it’s website, then why don’t they go after BBC in an English court for slander? This is once in a life time opportunity!

    They would kill (no double entendre intended) two birds with one stone; clear their names and win monitory damages as well!
    If I was in their shoes, I would hire a law firm on contingency basis yesterday!

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  • Born Again Pakistani
    Sep 8, 2011 - 7:56AM

    @Ehtisham Syed:
    MQM should not have lied. They should have accepted the letter. Nothing objectionable at all in the letter in my view. I am fine by it…. My recommendation for next time is to talk on the phone. Why write letter.

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  • Aristo
    Sep 8, 2011 - 10:11AM

    @Ikramuddin Akbar:
    Yes, I am proud of my heritage, a progeny of a Khan family hailing from Delhi, although now a Karachite and yes I feel pride in speaking my mother tongue URDU, the most influencial language of the entire sub-continent.

    I fully agree with your suggestion, this is what I meant as well. The migrant community from India living in Karachi or all over Pakistan should be united under one platform to safeguard their own particular intersts and align them towards the progress of the state they are citizens of.

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  • Ikramuddin Akbar
    Sep 8, 2011 - 1:27PM

    @Aristo:
    Thank you very much for your encouraging words, i did hope that so, and i really appreciate that, yes URDU, what a language its a magic,some times i wonder what would have happened if there had been no Urdu here, that we brought with us.Thanks again and good wishes!

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  • Worried Soul
    Sep 8, 2011 - 1:35PM

    Look no further.

    http://www.diigo.com/annotated/5f6cc04caaf111140eef76fa1cc163c7

    Someone wanna explain this to me??

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  • Munna Pakistani
    Sep 8, 2011 - 3:29PM

    As usual the press conference of MQM’s Mustafa Kamal was devoid of meaningful answers to the serious allegations levelled by Dr Zulfiqar Mirza. All Kamal had to offer was hollow rhetoric, inconsequential questions and blatant denials of facts. For example, the MQM did not clarify its position on the Chakra Goth incident, affiliation of Kamran Madhri with the party, the murder of journalist Wali Khan Babar etc. People are anxious to know why Altaf Hussain does not come back to exonerate himself from the charges of high treason, murder, kidnapping for ransom and other serious crimes.

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  • Sep 8, 2011 - 3:50PM

    MQM is hardly an honest and innocent victim undeserving of people looking twice at the actions. Mirza, even if he is right about one thing or another went so far overboard his mental health is coming into question and it’s not even far fetched with a few of the things he has said and damaged his own credibility to the extent that it can only be saved by his legendary brief case of answers containing what he claims it does and the contents of it reaching the audience.
    It started out interesting. It drifted into the mundane. Politicians condemning each other and making claims of why they are the one you should believe and the proof being shown gets lost somewhere in the drama until it fades away and things return to “business as usual.”

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  • Saad
    Sep 8, 2011 - 4:59PM

    @Salman Orangiwala:

    PPP doesn’t claim to be representative of Sindhis and PML-N doesnt claim to be representative of Punjabis.

    MQM came into existence long after most of the atrocities were committed. Qasba and Aligarh were committed by a dictator which Muhajirs supported at large, obviously not 100% but even today they like the guy. So why was MQM narrating atrocities committed by army when it was answering ZM’s accusations? In plain Urdu it was sawaal gandum jawaab chana.

    Lastly I am not from either of the places you mentioned but a bihari and last time I checked they were Urdu speakings as well. MQM came into existence because of army’s atrocities not anyone else’s so it should stop blaming others for it.

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  • Salman Orangiwala
    Sep 8, 2011 - 9:30PM

    @ Saad , that is the crux of the problem with all Urdu-speaking lot .
    As this is evident from all of the above posts that they seldom unite on just one single issue : their very survival .

    You would find a lot of JI , PTI , psuedo-intellectuals etal maligning MQM who are also Urdu speaking Muhajires ,but there are seldom anyone with a Baloch or Kakezai surname who would be doing so , on Amn Committe or ANP .

    Why this is so difficult to comprehend that the “Golden Horde “is here under the command of modern day Hulagu Khan, ZM and kind ,and landed from nowhere to take away what you have amassed with sheer toil over years ,that too in a blink of an eye .They just want to collect the the “booty’ from this city and from your league and retreat to their abode .If you want to present them the requisite pawn over platter , go ahead , make your day , as for me I won’t and retalaite the same way my community usually does .Period .

    Once upon a time , not so long ago , I had my reservations with MQM but when I looked around, pondered ,I felt how everyone here is to beat the very life out of me ,as I am not “the son of the soil “..The alien LEA’s , “Marde Kamil ” Zulfiqar Mirza all are bent upon to mingle me to dust .

    If you claim to belong to the same community I do , pray, just ask once Mirza to name ATLEAST the names of those who dragged down innocent office going youngsters from buses and shot point blank on Banaras’ overbridge ? Would you ?Recommend

  • Mehreen Tariq Fatemi
    Sep 8, 2011 - 9:38PM

    MQM should take two simple steps to disprove Zulfiqar Mirza’s accusations:

    a) The two persons, who were with Altaf Husain and were asked to leave the room during his controversial meeting with Mirza, should come before the media, place the Holy Qur’an on head and deny Mirza’s claim.

    b) Altaf Husain should write a letter to the present British Prime Minister, asking him to deny (after referring to the record) that he wrote to Tony Blair in September 2001. It is as simple as that.

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  • Mehreen Tariq Fatemi
    Sep 8, 2011 - 9:52PM

    @Omar:
    well very said omar

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  • Sep 9, 2011 - 12:28AM

    If MQM (Muttahida) claims to be the champion of Urdu speaking community then why they have been after MQM (Mohajir). The problem with MQM (Muttahida) is that they want to keep their control over Karachi through guns not through votes.

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  • mehreen tariq fatemi
    Sep 9, 2011 - 12:47AM

    @Omar:
    very well said* :P

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  • Ikramuddin Akbar
    Sep 9, 2011 - 9:13AM

    @Ehtisham Syed:
    This lie will soon die.No one wants to control his own home through guns .Karachi is MUTTAHIDA’S , and MOHAJIR’S own home.( YOU SHOULD NOT WORRY ABOUT THEIR BIFURCATION,SOONER OR LATER THEY WILL BE UNITED) They are natural citizens of Karachi.They are the essence of Karachi.People all over the world recognize efforts of Mohajirs making Karachi a cosmopolitan city .They are doctors, they are nurses ,they are engineers,they are professors,they are industrialists .They work in offices. they don’t trade narcotics, they dont bring arms from north to south in the garb of IDP, Their enemies dont stalk them from north to south. Punjabis. sindhis. Balochis, can live safely and harmoniously with them,right from Korangi to Defence. to society to landhi to Malir to Gulshan, to Lalukhait to Nazimabad to north Nazimabd to north karachi to New karachi..A dangerous group who has nothing to give and nothing to loose is greedily eying Karachi.Their dream will always be a dream. they have no compatibility to the norms and ethics of Karachi. Karachi has threats from them.Save Karachi and your loved ones from them.These people have become stigma on the forehead of Karachi.God bless our Karachi.Now finally, if someone’s life ,dignity and self respect is at stake does it matter which source is used to save his life.

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  • Ikramuddin Akbar
    Sep 9, 2011 - 10:38AM

    @Ehtisham Syed:
    This lie will soon die.(YOU SHOULD NOT WORRY ABOUT THEIR BIFURCATION, SOONER OR LATER THEY WILL BE UNITED LIKE VIETNAM,LIKE EAST AND WEST GERMANY AND LIKE NORTH AND SOUTH KOREA ( KHARBUZEY KO DEKH KAR KHARBUZA RANG PAKADTA HEY) Mohajirs are the stake holders of Karachi, they are essence of Karachi, even Europe and America realize the fact what Mohajirs contributed in making Karachi a cosmopolitan city. No one can harm his own home. no one needs to control his own home through guns.they are the natural citizen of Karachi. they don’t produce narcotics in their homes they dont bring launcher and deadly arms in the garb of IDP from North to South.they are not being stalked by their enemies they leave behind before moving to this city.They are docters they are engineers they are nurses they are professors they are IT experts .they are in NGOs . they nurtured Karachi from the day it was a sapling and transformed it into sturdy tree (Dukh jhelain bi fakhta aur kawwey andey khain). Karachi is being greedily eyed by those who have nothing to loose and nothing to give.karachi is at risk by those who have no compatibility,ethically and socially to live here as a citizen.God bless Karachi.

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  • Adeel Ahmed
    Sep 9, 2011 - 2:46PM

    @Salman OrangiWala on the issue of Quota System: That’s right MQM jo kehti hai wo karti nahi. Check the record of Sindh Assembly and you will find that MQM votes in favour quota system in April, 2011. Recommend

  • Sep 10, 2011 - 8:26PM

    I do like the manner in which you have framed this particular concern plus it really does offer me personally a lot of fodder for consideration. On the other hand, because of just what I have experienced, I simply hope when other reviews pile on that individuals continue to be on point and in no way get started on a tirade associated with some other news du jour. Anyway, thank you for this fantastic point and while I do not concur with it in totality, I respect your standpoint.Recommend

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