China to launch Pakistan communication satellite
According to Xinhua news, a spokesman for the Xichang Satellite Launch Center in southwest China's Sichuan Province said Wednesday the satellite, the PAKSAT-1R, will be carried by a Long March-3B carrier rocket.
PAKSAT-1R will replace PAKSAT-1 which is likely to complete its useful life this year.
Pakistan’s Ambassador to China, Masood Khan said the launch will broaden the horizons of cooperation between the two countries.
“Launching of a communication satellite is going to be a symbolic development in Pakistan-China relations, as this will broaden the horizons of our cooperation,” he said.
(Read: Pak-China relations: Pakistan seeks berth in spacecraft)
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@Taimur Malik: Agree. What is required is an alliance of the 'Bigs' in Asia. China+Korea+Japan+India+Pakistan+Indonesia. Only that would tilt the world's economic and cultural weight, fair and square into the Asian mainland. But for that to happen, India, China and Pakistan would need to find a resolution to their border issues in a tripartite manner, with a fair and realistic consideration for all parties concerned, without seeking the secession of additional land. A status quo resolution has worked before for China and Russia. There is no reason why this cannot work for these three countries. Also, if China+India+Pakistan is the first stage, then drawing in Korea+Japan+Indonesia is the second stage. Widening it to other Asian states, in a concentric fashion, will eventually lay the foundation of an Asian Union. But, best of luck. Islamabad / Beijing / New Delhi all have too many hawks. And not many peaceniks. They rule by fear and are ruled by it. Nothing much can happen with a leadership that lacks imagination.
I wish for the countries of Pakistan, India, and China to unite as one economic and military power, with which to rival the US and its European allies. Each country should retain its sovereignty, but imagine what the people of these three heavily populated countries can accomplish and the poverty out of which they can be lifted? China has the most people on this planet, followed by India, and Pakistan is the sixth most populous with no signs of slowing down. If these three countries were to maximize their trade amongst each other and the rest of Asia and the world at large, boost military cooperation, especially in the "String of Pearls" strategic locations across the Pacific Ocean through the Persian Gulf and create a dynamic model for other regions such as Africa, the Arab World, Oceania, and Latin America to follow, then the 21st century will truly be the Asian Century, no questions asked. These countries should immediately cut down on their US Dollar reserves in lieu of trading in a basket of currencies, including the Rupees of both India and Pakistan, plus the Yuan. China should have its "sphere of influence" merge with India, since the two are the economic titans of Asia, with the exception of Japan, and the two rivals should compete in a healthy manner together as one with Europe and the US. Pakistan need not rely solely on foreign aid, whether the US or China, but to supercharge its own fledgling economy. All the resources are at their command, including the greatest resource, its people. Pakistanis and Indians need to respect one another, since they are genetically, culturally, historically one and the same. They can build all the pipelines they wish, develop their infrastructure to its potential, tap into its resources, but none of it is possible if the three countries cannot mutually benefit from one another. And this mutual benefit begins with the people of the three nations to love and respect one another. I pray that I am not merely idealistic at heart but rather see the true capabilities of Pakistan, India, and China unleash in order to take on the world.
Though I still maintain that the Indian obsession with Pakistan is mind boggling but for some who are not aware of secessionist movements in India try travelling to Manipur, you won't be able to get there even after being an Indian citizen because you need special permission! Or maybe Nagaland, Assam and even Khalistan might help jog the memory.
Now that said, can we go back to the real topic where Pakistanis ask their Govt why we had to use China when we can do it with our own Shaheen in modified state? And for Indians, seriously we thought you are doing well in your country - go use Orkut.
@Pakistani Soldier:
Man, I dont know what to say of your intelligence. What propaganda media outlet do you read, do tell us? Do you even know there are dozens of states in India, and even if half of them had an insurgency that India cannot be the fastest growing nation on Earth?
The obvious hostility between the commentators from India and Pakistan is the basis why we can never be friends no matter how many aman ki asha's we have
@Manoj: Get the spelling of Merger corrected. Your bias attitude made you forget basic English. Think before you speak and read after your type.
@BruteForce: and other Indian posters. Please do not post jingoistic comments here. ET forum is a unique one in that it is the only one where Indians and Pakistanis can honestly share views and learn from each other with the aim of developing a better understanding and possibly changing our biased view of each other.
I must congratulate ET for making this forum possible. Let's have a free, fair, intelligent, civil and honest debate on common issues.
@farhan aziz: I think that Indians like you have no concept of a staunch ally. Just because Pakistan and China are good friends does not mean that China has to adopt Pakistani religion or culture or vice versa. For example, Indians took Canadian gifted peaceful nuclear technology to illegally build nuclear weapons in South Asia and start a nuclear arms race. Does that mean they should follow Canadian culture?
@UnionJack, did you mean this news:
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2344236.ece
I agree this is what matters, and the reality is that this is the reality: we are not really that different.
I am Indian, personally know a lot of fine Pakistani people in US. I think its time to put this BS behind us and figure out how to improve the lot of the millions of deprived people in both our countries.
@UnionJack: Don't you think you are expectig too much from all commentators. In this world people can relate unrealted things as it's their personal choice to believe in. It is this sort of masala arguments makes forum interesting. Ofcourse there are few educative arguments search for them and put aside other things. Enjoy.
@Amit patel: You sound so high dude I would love to have what you are having. Sometimes I wish I can be a no brainer like you. @Everybody else : Its funny to see where the whole discussion is heading towards. Lets see from the begining 1. Article says China to launch Pakistani satellite 2. First few comments from Pakistani expresses that they are happy by Chinese friendship and support 3. An Indian commented in crude way pointing out why does Pakistan have to rely on China and not capable to do anything of it's own 4. Somebody else commented Indias GSLV failed.....whatttt??????.....how does it relate to the debate ?...but anyways lets move on 5. blah blah blah 6. Now the discussion ends up in Indians are jealous......great!!!!! 7. more blah blah 8. Now India has inferior complex 9. Even North Korea is not spared 10. more blah blah 11. Some idiot pointed out to someone to take care killing in Karachi.....seriously!!!!!......how did the discussion reach here ???? 12. blah blah 13. some fed up people are commenting Indians have no work and commenting on Pakistani site.....these bunch of people are completely oblivion about tribune.com so I will forgive their ignorance and not comment further 14. blah blah
What do we see from this pattern ? even a simple constructive criticism from across the border starts chest thumping and mud slinging and discussion shifts from a very simple news article to daily topic of how much Indians and Pakistan love each other ( sarcasm for anyone who dont understand) On other hand I read about an article about a simple humble and one of the best human gesture by a Pakistani Airforce Pilot to family of an Indian Pilot who was killed during duty in 1965. I wonder how many hot heads here has paid any interest to read it. These are the kind of acts which brings people together. Just a simple gesture of humbleness. But nothing gives an adrenaline kick like abusing and hating each other gives. So we pay attention to religious right wings and fanatics and conspiracy theorists rather than paying attention to rational and sane thinking and simple truth which is infront of us. The truth that whatever religion we follow , or ways are same, food is same, clothes are same, habits are same, likings are same and even the bad qualities are same. But yea, by law of nature, only "opposite" attracts and hence we Indian and Pakistani work more towards associating ourselves to westerners, chinese, russian, japanese and in future maybe aliens from mars, but we will not try to associate with each other. Britisers once took our advantage because of this divide and ruled us for more than 200 hundred years and now someone else will. Anyways its always fun reading the comments here so carry on.
Seriously our Indian brothers, don't you have a single website where you can keep all your Pakistan obsession...like for example Orkut?
@Umair: India is our enemy. China is our best friend and we have the exact same goals as China for the region. Both Pakistan and China have a common enemy and thats India. LONG LIVE PAKISTAN-CHINA FRIENDSHIP.
@Mohammad Ali Siddiqui:
Every now and then you consume something that was due to the global supply chain that involves China. If the developed world does not have shame in using Chinese products, what is your problem in China assisting Pakistan? If you think this government is such a big issue, then kindly please leave your job and get rid of the corrupt people. Please let the optimistic Pakistanis triumph this moment.
@Observer: I believe branding is part of the problem with all things Pakistani. This is another area where India can assist ... for a nominal cost. Consider the acronym SUPARCO. It sounds like a soap, not space company. How about PUSH-ROW. Pakistan pushes, China rows. Now, that's more like it! Go Pakistan! Row China! Also, when making an acronym, follow the rules: 1. Keep it to 4 or 5 letters. Anymore, and it is a sentence. 2. Two of those 4 or 5 letters, must be an anglo-saxon vowel. 3. Avoid religious symbolism like a moon / star. It means you are cruising for a hard landing. 4. The space is all about being hard on logic and soft on ambiance (vacuum). 5. Instead, Pakistani space research seems to be soft on logic and hard on ambiance (strategic depth ... in vacuum). 6. Last, but not the least, get a good deep space telescope facility ... it tells us, our place in space. It is revealing, and puts everything into context. :)
Why not launching one with India?
@Naeem Siddiqui:
Pakistan is certainly not worthy to be compared to developing states like China or India, that is for sure. It has to be compared with Afghanistan, North Korea, Somalia,etc.
I for one think most apt state for Pakistan to be compared with is North Korea, somebody else might think it is Yugoslavia or for somebody Afghanistan. But, hope you can see the trend.
@Naeem Siddiqui:
Pakistan is the next Afghanistan, and not the next North Korea. Hope this thought gives you comfort.
@Dr. Saleem Siddiqi: You are right when you say 'We must concenterate our money and resources on other avenues'.. Yes, we need to organize better camps for the freedom fighters from Uighurs who are now in Azad Kashmir. After all, we have a duty to protect fellow Muslims...
@BruteForce
Your 'analysis' has nothing to point out; it just reflects you are an ‘Indian’.
I have seen Indian comparing Pakistan with Saudi Arabia, I have seen Indian comparing Pakistan with Afghanistan I have seen Indian Comparing Pakistan with srilanka, I have seen Indian comparing Pakistan with Israel and yes I have seen Indian comparing Pakistan with former Yugoslavia:)
Man! After all these ‘comparisons’ I could only suggest Indians to grow up (mentally) if they are not hate manic (hopefully not) :)
@Naeem Siddiqui:
I dont see you pointing out the error in my analysis. Because you cant!
Pakistan is the next North Korea. The World think North Korea is a nightmare, they have seen nothing yet!
@woohoo
Who is Zahid Hamid!?? I mostly hear this name from Indians, is he Bollywood star or to be prime minister of India :)
@Abdul You can’t help these Indian’s hate infested ‘knowledge’. Leave them alone, sit back and enjoy :) You can pinch them in case they are getting slow.
China even launches North Korean Satellites, but North Korea is still considered a failed state. It too, like Pakistan, has nukes and plenty of Missiles.
North Korea and Pakistan have a lot of similarities. They both are paranoid about their more successful neighbour, who used to be part of the same Country. Both think China is their savior and US the villain. In both the Countries the Military dominates.
Pakistan should be proud of this launch, just like North Korea is proud every time China sticks up for it in World forums(but is ever hesitant to give it proper non-military aid).
@Rajesh Kumar DO u even know how much 1500 square KM is. And the chinese side of the border is highly mountainous. Your a complete dork.
@Aamir
wonderful to know the names of so many greatest scientists!
@Dr. Saleem Siddiqi
I really doubt ur degree.
"Free lunch is always welcomed from China in friendship. When we have such a friend, why should we spend so much money in R&D on such a launch"-This is what you said.
Do you really know what you are saying .Noone is nonone's friend in this world.The Bonding factor is money or any kind of advantage. If pak has a friend like china ,then bring everything from china. Don't educate your children spending a lot.Bring some chinese engineers and construct everything in pakistan.Bring doctors from china,even bring skilled workers from china.No need to spend anything.
When every country is trying to boost R&D in their country ,you are saying the opposite.
@Bangash:
Last time I heard this was from Zaid Hamid. I think you have similar intellectual capabilities.
@Dr. Saleem Siddiqi: Mr. Siddiqui, I remember during the launch of PSLV sometimes back, you had commented that what so great about it, it just has to go up. I hope now you know what was great about it.
Good news for Pakistan... There is nothing wrong in launching a satellite by foreign vehicle... Even India does it to launch 4+ tonne satellite... so its not correct to abuse Pakistan... don't be jealous fellow Indians...
And most Pakistan guys abusing u r scientist for not having there own program should think... its not easy technology... y can you guys go and work towards it?
In the same time i also like to ask Pakistan guys no to abuse Indians for GSLV failure... Yes we failed 2 consecutive time with GSLV when trying with indigenous cryo stage(and the second launch failure is not due to cryo, its related to gas entering and malfunctioning some classified equip)... I am very happy... lot of people might here wonder why this guy is happy? i am happy that we are developing something of our own... have we copied some technology from others we would have succeeded in the first launch itself... And according to the info i got from my friends we will surely succeed within next 2 launches of GSLV...
@Amir:
If the house next to you is on fire, will you not be curious about the goings on inside that house?
@Shahbaz Younis: There is no issue. We know Pakistan does not have the technology. After all it is rocket science. Unlike many ordinary Pakistanis and likes of Salmaan Taseer and Fawad (in this post), , scientists of Pakistan know its a complex issue. Satellite launch cannot wait till the indeginous development of these technologies. Hence the chinese help. There is nothing wrong in it. But that does not give you or anyone to make fun of Indian scientists. At least I am yet to see the success of such technologies in first go. You can look at space shuttle program. Tremendous success but spectacular failures too. After all at the end of the day. rocket is but a bomb with controlled explosions. One small mistake and it is doomed. And people like (Late) Taseer and Fawad can only make fun of people who try to make things work.
@Ahmer Ali: @Shahbaz Younis: @Fareed: I fully 100% agree with you. Free lunch is always welcomed from China in friendship. When we have such a friend, why should we spend so much money in R&D on such a launch. We must concenterate our money and resources on other avenues.
Regards
Dr. Saleem Siddiqi Johannesburg - South Africa.
@sumeet: Why do you indians all rush to Pakistani websites and post your garbage? We know we are arch rivals we never go to your indian websites. Why are so many of you indians obsessed about Pakistan, you are more obsessed about Pakistan than Pakistanis themselves. Get a life indians and go away and leave us with our best friend China.
To all Indian just crawl back to ur country, u dont have guts to develop ur own technology rather relying on Russia and Isreal..... how can u talk to us
those who have initiated a cat-fight here should understand that this satelite technology is an outdated technology, when man has reached moon.
It also seems that Pakistanis are very happy with this borrowed success.
Again Indians seem Jealous, because India could have lauched this rocket.
Request Indians not to interfere in their matter,specially when pak says china as their all weather friend . Lets see How long this "all-weather friendship" colour takes time to fade out ?
Assalam-o-Allaikum Warahmatullah.Now this time too China has proven that China is and always has been the true,most trustworthy,credible and time testing friend of Pakistan in the world's non-muslim countries' list especially more than USA.Now our leaders must wake up from the dreams of carelessness,day dreaming and star gazing about the world's non-muslim countries and differentiate between the foes and friends.
any comment made by a muslin person about any topics has to be directly , indirectly or remotely connected to the religion of islam ?
What is the issue to debate? China launching Pak satellite? What's wrong with it? Cannot figure out.
Welcome to the 20th century. (there are no typos)
its good that pakistan is going to have an anoher satelite, but i wanna know as i think every pakistani here have seen gslv exploding on your media didn't seen india launched 10 satelites of different countries simoultenuously , didn't pak media covered india's mission to moon(chandrayaan), people criticizing ISRO may know that is has more than 55 satelites in space. it has world record of launching 10 satelites simultenously, and have more than 20 forign parteners which order isro to launch their satelite, it has reached moon(chandrayaan) and back and still few people crying for a gslv faliure. hah
Pakistan has already given a part of Gilgit-Baltistan about 1500 square km area of land as fee for Chinese Satellite launch service.
@UnionJack: 66% pustuns resides in Baluchistan for your info and pakistan have less 50000 regular soldiers in Whole baluchistan as compare to 700000 in indian kashmir Dont worry about it
I don't understand if China launching satellite for Pakistan why all my Indian neighbors having problem. If US can use his rival Russia as a space taxi in near future why can't Pakistan can use china launching system. First Indian have superior technology" tu bahi apnay ghur may rakhu na". Plus you guys scared of DRS technology, first learn this them talk here about space technology! Thanks for China!
@Ali: "Why don’t we put our missiles to some good use and modify them to launch satellites (US Titan rockets are modified ICBMs)? What has SUPARCO been doing all this time? "
Putting sattelites in precise orbits is a much more technologically challenging endeavor. There is a lot more to it than shooting up a rocket.
@Muhammad Saifullah Khalid: Unfortunately since past 65 years they have applied their brains only for wrong reasons.
@raja khalil afzal: How about first taking care of Balochistan, which is about to break away ??
@Bhangi Billi: Ah now I know what use you will make of your shat-e-lite.
@Mohan Ram: this time Ladaak we will given Jammu and ladak to china and keep velley with pakistan Happy
how about pakistan launching their own drone lol
I am told that india's space program foremost , was to shoot up the poop of 500 million citizens who poop out doors. Once that is accomplished, perhaps Pakistan can have India lunch satellites for it. free advise for indian trolls: dont worry about everything pakistani & spend time with your families!
Just a thought, but maybe,maybe India could offer to launch a Pak satellite for free in return for good neighborly relations?
Anyway both satellites will probably be downloading data to Huawei systems running software written in Bangalore.
@Bangash: Yes I can see that. So what are you doing about it ? Ah wait, let me see. You decided to state the obvious and hoped that your one line comment can be counted as greatest contribution to mankind. Everywhere I see you put comment I have noticed that when you are out of words you repeat same line , every single post. I am sure my fellow commenter here noticed that too. Try to handle a constructive criticism, try to debate back with concrete answers rather than giving hollow statements like "Indian trolls hard at work" and "India has inferior complex with Pakistan". Grow up dude. Dare to fight back with real answers which are true, not some loony fantasy and ideas you have developed in your hollow head. Sorry for my bitter words, but you kill the spirit of debate by such one liners. @Pakistani brothers : For those who are happy with this news you should be feeling real sad. You thrive to outbeat India in every aspect, you boast of better than best missile and defense system, and applaud the scientists as they are walking Gods on planet earth and yet after 65 years you cannot launch a satellite. You can spread lies as you may but India has and does successfully launches its own plus other country's satellites. So instead of thriving to create your own space program you are just happy China is helping you. How come your citizens are so naive that first they cannot understand that their mullahs are misleading and now even the China is taking whatever is left in their coffers in name of "friendship". Is this the kind of friendship which exists in your society ? Where a friend will not assist if not paid for his service ?
@Naeem Siddiqui: Wish it was always the case. BUu yeah I really loved the way you tried to call yourself "sane" :). By the way your comment just reflects the "sour grapes" attitude and since you were helpless and nothing had anything to comment you decided to call yourself sane and keep quite. Nice act bro :) I love this true Pakistani spirit.
its better to let China do this; for there will be no or at-least lesser corruption in this. Other wise I think Pakistani brains are far better than the rest of the World.
@Bangash: It is not an obsessoin of Pakistan. It is your hypocritical attitude of great achievements. To name a few. All your natural gas processing plants are designed and built overseas and assembled using local labour All your fertilizer plants are the same as above. The French were holding your hands while you put the kits together. The Chinese are doing the same with the copied F16's The Americans are there to put together the F16's or they might crash on take off. The list goes on
@Bangash: now its comedy time
@ faraz.actually we are not following the teaching of islam,which urges us again and again in its teachings that you shoulsd think over the universe,over yourself.and look how QURAN teaches us science but if we dont understand its teachings and neither we try to understand it then we blame the religion for our inompetency,if you just look at your own body how you was born and how QURAN TEACHES US EMBRYOLOGY,then you would be in better positon to be proud over your religion.
Which part of Kashmir has Pakistan given away secretly this time to China for the launch. China gives nothing for free. There is always a price tag
Indian have major inferiority complex against Pakistan. This evident from their obsession with Pakistan.
@Fawad: here some more, go on enjoying,............
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asianspacerace http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryogenicrocketengine#LOX.2BLH2rocketenginesbycountry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listofspace_agencies
show me something valuable to counter
inferiority complex sometimes brings out the best of humour from pakistanis.at least they are happy in their world.why should we bother?
@Fawad
For your information, the GSLV rockets had indigenously built cryogenic engines. Other than India, only 5 countries (US, Russia, Japan, China and France) have this technology and all of them have had failed launches. Just google around.
@narayana murthy: O yea right.. if i remember correctly they tried to launch one some years ago and it was blown up...Thanks..but No thanks.
Every now and then either we run after US or China for our need which is a shameful act for the sitting government.
What the leaders of Pakistan are supposed to do? Loot the country and then run away when the government is dissolved. Remain at large when the next government comes in and after a decade or so before the elections come back and file the nomination papers and get re-elected and again loot the country.
It is a very disgusting situation. Quaid-e-Azam’s Pakistan was broken just 24 years after its creation. Even after a lapse of 40 years, these so called leaders did not learn the lesson.
Thank you China for bearing with our corrupt leaders.
I think it is not about innate strength which Pakistan may have to launch such satellite, but about innate weakness. Pakistan has plenty of weakness compared to India, and even more weakness compared to China. Farhan Aziz is mostly talking about Chinese Atheism in frustration just to discard this weakness and bring some order in the society to gain such strength. Even though, it is sometime easy to acquire certain capacities in today's scientific and commercial world, it is not possible to discard problems that easily. There are no ready buyers of this commodity and it can not be disposed off to a third world country just like toxic waste as done by Western countries. Till such time, borrowed glory is the only way out.
@Satish: I saw that funny GSLV rocket got exploded in the air after few minutes of its launch. All people were happy in situation room. GSLV explosion looks like Fireworks from your side to America on Christmas. Satellite design has many flaws and the lady said we are not making changes to it. GSLV has been failed for 3rd consecutive time. You can make good movies and songs only. Keep it up to that.. Indian Rockets are like fireworks to me not matured enough.
Why don't we put our missiles to some good use and modify them to launch satellites (US Titan rockets are modified ICBMs)? What has SUPARCO been doing all this time?
@Naeem Siddiqui: Your right when GSLV failed indians kept quite on pan criticism because we already lost money in it. You guys are really king of the world taking head on to super power like USA. For Indians, India itself is big complex, diverse world. So we live in our world just sometimes we check the alien states.
@Satish: Congratulations, you deserve it. Well done. Have to appreciate when Hindustan does something to applaud.
@Farhan Aziz: Wow man, you sound like a douchebag who is just putting blame on the religion because you do not understand what it says. Reading the text in a foreign language is not the essence of religion. How you practice the teachings is. Remember! RESPECT!
@Fareed: then what is indated these days??? will you elaborate please,,,
Its funny, Pakistan cannot launch even a miniature satelite on its own and Pakistanis (Late Salman Tasser etal) had the audacity to mock the failed launch of India's Indigenous high technology GSLV (Geosynchronous Satelite Launch Vehicle) rocket.. Since that failure in December 2010, ISRO (Indian Space Research Organization) has launched a satelite weighing more than a ton (1410 Kg) last month, Chandrayan - Lunar Probe was a great success as well ..
I think, India could have done it for cheap. Unless, China is doing it for free!
satelite technology is an outdated one....
@Manoj:
It is ,I admit what China has done with Pakistan is unbeatable. but then it does not supposed to merge a state, the point here rises is the scene of doing something by our own(Willpower), that's absent in Pakistan Government. In a general scenario an individual,a person or a nation can learn a lot from this Pak-China relation. but we are underestimating all this. if someone wanna do something remarkable, there are not circumstances to appreciate that personality...Believe me Pakistani Nations is one of the most patriotic nations of the world, but the thing is....their emotions and feelings , all are forcefully being dumped. and this is what guiding us to approach China to come and hold all these situations.
Government of Pakistan should do something now, else we should be strong enough to hold our Government in a peaceful manner. My Request to Chinese people and their Government is to please stop this spoon feeding this country instead make us/our govt stand enough that we may lead our country by our own.
Can we do anything in this country without China?
Wish list of common Pskistani with China
China should give military hardware to defend the border. China should construct dam in Pakistan for irrigation and electricity. China should do mining in Thar Coal Belt and in Baluchistan to put up power plant. china should give nuclear power plant. China should give aid to come out of the financial crisis. China should defend Pakistan position in UN and other international fora. China should manage sea port and construct highways in Pakistan. China should launch Satelite for Pakistan. China should act as referee in the internal politics and for relation between Army and politician.Kindly let me know, if Pakistan expects China to do all the above things, why not mearge Pakistan with China??
@farhan aziz: I disagree with you. Why are we not like russia/china is not because of religion. Why are you including religion into that? Religion didn't ruled over Pakistan (although it was made in the name of Islam). Hardy anyone here follows true religion, neither any religious party ever ruled. Religion teaches us that we are not pathan, punjabi, sindhi, baloch, mohajir, kashmiri, saraiki, pakhtun, shia, sunni etc. Religion teaches we are one. We have not progressed because of leg pulling and corruption and one system (democracy or any other ruling form) not implemented at all. Either democracy, dictatorship, king, or something like that should be followed for a long period to make progress. Nothing stays here longer. This gives opportunities for corrupt people to come and loot and then live happily elsewhere. Hope that changes soon.
Hi I second the Doctor on his statement. Religion has nothing to do with Pakistan's problem, in fact, it is lack of religious knowledge that has led to this chaos. If everyone is well versed in religious matters, then the rogue mullah's would have no place in society.
On the launch, yes it was long due. As a Pakistani, I my gratitude to the Chinese people for helping us throughout the history. China should further get involved in Pakistan, specifically, in the Thar Coal project to eliminate our energy crises.
On the other hand, we should give China a permanent base in Siachin for joint peace keeping mission.
Jay
@farhan aziz: No body is teaching these as compulsory text books in Pakistan except basic knowledge of Islam in primary schools. I dont know what you are talking about such rubbish. Being an Islamic Republic of Pakistan this is minimum one should learn in Schools.
It is higher education that we must encourage our people to get with high standard and quality. To me this is missing. But having said this more and more new Generation Universities and other educational institution are coming up which are competitive and providing the best education in our country. Rome was not built in a day. It takes time and we must give them ample time for progression.
Pakistan's space satellite launching was over-due and we must thank to China for this assistance. Hope this will continue in future too as Pakisan intend to launch many more Satellites including our Military Satellite for survelliance of its boundries / border areas..
Regards
Dr. Saleem Siddiqi Johannesburg - South Africa
all our governments throughout history have stated that china is pakistan's best and closest friend,then why don't we follow their atheism also? china and russia have progressed so much in history because they were not shackled by religious dogma.we have seen what too much obsession with religion has done to our society,why do we still insist that our salvation lies in religious texts in a foreign language which most people in pakistan don't understand?