Wikileaks: Saudi Arabia, UAE funded extremist networks in Pakistan

Published: May 22, 2011

WikiLeaks said $100 million a year was making its way from those Gulf Arab states to a recruitment network in Punjab.

Charities from Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates financed a network in Pakistan that recruited children as young as eight to wage “holy war”, a local newspaper reported on Sunday, citing Wikileaks.

A US diplomatic cable published by WikiLeaks said financial support estimated at $100 million a year was making its way from those Gulf Arab states to an extremist recruitment network in Pakistan’s Punjab province, Dawn newspaper reported.

Asked to respond to the report, Saudi foreign ministry spokesman Osama Nugali said: “Saudi Arabia issued a statement from day one that we are not going to comment on any WikiLeaks reports because Saudi Arabia is not responsible for these reports and we are not sure about their authenticity.”

The November 2008 dispatch by Bryan Hunt, the then principal officer at the US consulate in Lahore, was based on discussions with local government and non-governmental sources during trips to Punjab, Pakistan’s most populous province.

It said those sources claimed that financial aid from Saudi and United Arab Emirates was coming from “missionary” and”Islamic charitable” organisations ostensibly with the direct support of those countries’ governments.

Saudi Arabia, the United States and Pakistan heavily supported the Afghan mujahideen against Soviet occupation troops in the 1980s. Militancy subsequently mushroomed in the region and militants moved to Pakistan’s northwest tribal areas along the border with Afghanistan, seen as a global hub for militants.

Since then there has been a growing nexus between militant groups there and in Punjab. In recent years militants have been carrying out suicide bombings seemingly at will in Pakistan, despite military offensives against their strongholds.

Children sent to training camps

But militancy is deeply rooted in Pakistan. In order to eradicate it, analysts say, the government must improve economic conditions to prevent militants from recruiting young men disillusioned with the state.

The network in Punjab reportedly exploited worsening poverty to indoctrinate children and ultimately send them to training camps, said the cable.

Saudi Arabia is seen as funding some of Pakistan’s hardline religious seminaries, or madrassas, which churn out young men eager for “holy war”, posing a threat to the stability of the region.

“At these madrassas, children are denied contact with the outside world and taught sectarian extremism, hatred for non-Muslims, and anti-Western/anti-Pakistan government philosophy,” said the cable.

It described how “families with multiple children” and”severe financial difficulties” were being exploited and recruited, Dawn reported.

“The path following recruitment depends upon the age of the child involved. Younger children (between 8 and 12) seem to be favoured,” said the cable.

Teachers in seminaries would assess the inclination of children “to engage in violence and acceptance of jihadi culture”.

“The initial success of establishing madrassas and mosques in these areas led to subsequent annual “donations” to these same clerics, originating in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates,” the cable stated.

Reader Comments (77)

  • Mirza
    May 22, 2011 - 11:23AM

    All the filth and extremism is originated in Saudi Arabia and then exported to the poorest of Pakistanis. This is where SA is making its biggest investment in Pakistan. While they started Wahibism, now more extreme Salifism and send it to Pakistan to further destroy this poor country and its poorest of the poor population. Recommend

  • May 22, 2011 - 11:31AM

    Honestly this is a SHAME! Most of us knew it all the time; the Saudis were hunting with the foxes and running with the hare. It is time the media stops referring to the Saudi tyrants as ‘Protectors of the Holy Ka’aba’. They are not! It is Allah who is and will continue protecting the Holy places. Inspite of all their wealth the Saudi rulers are more like Judas Iscariot; willing to sell their principles for a few pieces of silver. There is now an immense responsibility on our media to expose and continually drum in to our public that the Saudis are double crossers and can never be trusted. They always preferred our military dictators (Zia, Mush) over our elected leaders. They were responsible for the coup against Mr. Bhutto as we all know that the then Saudi envoy was involved in the negotiations with the IJI. Wake up MEDIA or history shall not forgive you.Recommend

  • Ali Hasan
    May 22, 2011 - 11:37AM

    Mirza’s comments are absolutely accurate.

    The UAE’s involvement can be seen as having more of an economic interest in the region, more than Saudi’s plans of increasing influence. Recommend

  • Iftekhar
    May 22, 2011 - 11:46AM

    Will the political class Imran khan included will take up this situation vocally? but army and soldiers from this region have always acted as mercenaries for gulf states as well as colonial masters. So there is nothing strange if still that things are going on, in whatever cover.Recommend

  • Ammar Malhotra
    May 22, 2011 - 11:53AM

    Well first we all have to understand what is cable, i think it is just conclusion of some deep fried american army officer’s or politician’s brain after looking at the flow of money from SA and UAE to Pakistan. Do you people have mind why do you people print this kind crap to blow the mind of people of you own country or muslims. Recommend

  • sarmad ahsan
    May 22, 2011 - 11:53AM

    saudia,UAE & Iran are the biggest exporters of religious violence & women oppressive ideologies.Saudia & iran have religious theocracies which promote the worst form of misogyny,homophobia & bigotry. Iran goes to the extent of having a religious figure at its ‘supreme leader’ who over rules the democratically elected president !!!!

    saudia has barbaric laws & rituals which treat their women like animals,subservient to the men in the famliy.it’s time all this saudi & iranian religious fanaticism is removed from our country.It has already caused unmeasurable damage to our society.Recommend

  • ishaq
    May 22, 2011 - 11:56AM

    Everyone Know this.Recommend

  • yousuf farooq
    May 22, 2011 - 12:04PM

    saudia doesn’t allow its women to drive a car,doesn’t allow women to go outside the house without the permission of a male family member.To be a woman in saudia is to truly be be in hell. you have no rights & the law doesn’t treat you as a human being but as an animal like a goat or cow to be the personal property of the men in your family.

    This sub-human behaviour of women in saudia is most distressing & the saudis should come out of their cavemen mentality and start treating their women like human beings.Recommend

  • May 22, 2011 - 12:07PM

    @Mirza:
    @Ali Hasan
    If someone follows Quran and Sunnat correctly and follow it religously, he / she cannot be termed as Whabee.

    Our beloved Prophet (SAW) followed Quran and he was Sunni. That is what we ALL are. Saudi Arabia follow the path of beloved Prophet (SAW) in a strict manner which is not liked by other like-minded Moulvis. Later these Moulvis have formed various Firqas (Division) in Islam. To my knowledge there are 72 Firqas prevailed. According to Prophet (SAW) only one Firqa will go in Jannat. Since our Prophet (SAW) followed Quran and Sunnat – you are smart enough to understand which Firqa among all these 72 Firqa who follow path of our Prophet (SAW) will go to Jannat.

    Therefore, promoting deeni education in Pakistan, which West is not at all comfortable, is not to produce extremists. Musharaf has done good job while he was in power. He asked them (Madressas) to be properly regularized, make their Syllabus known, and register with the Government to be in the main stream to check any foul play. This action checks the extreemism as alleged.

    Deeni education among our young ones is necessary and we must encourage them to come forward. We must thank Saudi Arabia, UAE and all other such countries if they are financially helping this humble mission to keep assisting as otherwise, deen is already at stake at the hands of naam nihaad Moulvies who should be the one taken to task.

    Regards

    Dr. Saleem Siddiqi
    Johannesburg – South Africa.Recommend

  • farrukah saleem
    May 22, 2011 - 12:12PM

    lets see if any of our brave anchors have the guts to talk about this in their shows.They won’t discuss it as they are too scared of being blown up by religious terrorists.As it is,a large proportion of our media people are sympathetic to & in agreement with the hate filled ideology of the islamic fundamentalists.

    it’s time our media stopped defending & promoting the beliefs,attitudes & values of the religious extremists.Religion has already caused too much death & destruction in our country.Recommend

  • farrukah saleem
    May 22, 2011 - 12:14PM

    The arabs need to have secular states where religion isn’t allowed to intrude & destroy the social fabric.the saudis,yemenis,jordanians have seen the damage what religious interfernce in govt. matters can do,it’s time they stepped back from the abyss & also stopped exporting their bigoted,hate filled religious ideology to our land.

    The madrassas & mosques being operated with saudi money have to be closed down,otherwise they will keep on producing another generation of religious terrorists.Recommend

  • saad khan
    May 22, 2011 - 12:26PM

    @yousuf farooq:

    it’s not just the saudis but i’ve observed that most muslim countries treat their women very badly,like inferior beings & lesser creations of allah.we need to get rid of this jaundiced view of women we have in our societies.Recommend

  • Sovereign_Citizen
    May 22, 2011 - 12:31PM

    This demand is long due and it is time now that Pakistan must ask its Saudi ‘Brothers!’ to stop this generiosity!! by all means. Recommend

  • parvez
    May 22, 2011 - 12:55PM

    Our leaders political and otherwise are both shamelss and corrupt. Their vision and world view does not extend further than themselves and their pockets. This is a fact known to foreign powers including S.A., so they exploit this weakness – why blame them ? Recommend

  • Akash
    May 22, 2011 - 1:05PM

    This is a true friend of Pakistan !!!! Hunting terrorists in its territory and making children of other countries terrorists Shameful ! in the name of Islam they are just making their own goals
    WAKE UP PAKISTANIS WAKE UP , YOUR OWN LEADERS , MULLAHS ARE CHEATING AND BACKSTABBING YOURecommend

  • Qasim
    May 22, 2011 - 1:21PM

    A futile debate; we all know what roles each (including US directly or on its urging), each played to lead us to our current predicament. What continues to be ignored is that more than religious (fiqh) inclination, it is an economic issue. Although some highly (western) educated extremists have surfaced recently, in most cases “families with multiple children” and” severe financial difficulties” are being exploited and recruited. With current gloomy economic conditions (and future prospects), near future end appears highly unlikely. Recommend

  • AH64
    May 22, 2011 - 1:31PM

    why is this big news? because wikileaks says so? This is well known, SodomArabia is has been spreading Wahabi filth in Pakistan since long, why do you think the Taliban, Sipah e Yazeed and Lashkar e Jhangvi are so well protected in Pakistan. They kill and slaughter Pakistanis without fear of retribution Recommend

  • Khalid Javed
    May 22, 2011 - 1:54PM

    Does it not expose US duplicity & double-game that holds a great influence over Saudi Arabia? On one hand they pressurize Pakistan to do more against these terror networkds & on the other, they condone the support provided to the same terror operators, by their stooges in KSA? What kind of game is this? Is it not characteristic of CIA? Recommend

  • Sajjad
    May 22, 2011 - 1:57PM

    Shameless people. This is how you exploit our poverty.Recommend

  • Kashif
    May 22, 2011 - 2:02PM

    @Dr. Saleem SiddiqiIf someone follows Quran and Sunnat correctly and follow it religously, he / she cannot be termed as Whabee.
    That is why they are wha… as you said above because they follow differently, strictly and to be honest sometime strangely.
    I think you have not read the news correctly. “It says Saudi’s are funding extremism in poor countries like Pakistan”. They are not just educating their own version of islam but they are actually practically supporting it and killing innocents in pakistan with their oily money. Why they dont do it themselves ? why using other countries lives to fulfill their blood filled wishes ?
    So more than a firqa this is a money business so that nobody should speak against them, their power. Nobody can remain in power for long : This is Allah pak’s asool in this world.
    You need to come out of the shell and see the whole world not just one firqa which you like or prefer. I hope i answer the question, although their is no question.Recommend

  • Hamza
    May 22, 2011 - 2:07PM

    The biggest threat we face today is one from our own ego, our ability not to acknowledge our own mistakes, our lethargic attitude towards life. Wake up Pakistan, the world is moving forward. Lets end these roots of terrorism for a brighter future for our children. Recommend

  • saleem khan
    May 22, 2011 - 2:13PM

    So What all this fuss about Drones Attacks fuels terrorism because it kills innocent people in Wazisistan? Southern Punjab is not in Waziristan, I think. So this means that Saudi Arab and UAE give money to all these Laskars runned by Ahali-Haiths and Deobandi Madrassas while the funds channels through through Jamat-udawa, Alkhidmat foundation, etc. The recruit innocent and poor children aged 8-12 years from South Punjab and gave them preliminary training over there. With this initial indoctrination, they export these children for sophisticated training in FATA and then order them to do Suicide attacks in K.Pukhtunkwa and Afghanistan and some other parts of Pakistan. Where does this reaction of Drones Attacks comes in ?Recommend

  • saleem khan
    May 22, 2011 - 2:16PM

    Does this also means that Pukhtuns are Victims not the perpetrators of Terrorism in Pakistan. Because people of N.Waziristan want Drones Attacks to target these ‘outside’ militants. Recommend

  • Muhammad Hanif
    May 22, 2011 - 2:16PM

    Saudi arabia Export islamic values and islamic thoughts based on quran. And those thoughts and teachings present a total contradiction to the western idealogy. and therefore ‘wethere a muslim or a non-muslim’ inspired by the western idealogy will always find these quranic teaching offensive and irrational. Islam presents a comprehensive solution to each and every matter of a man life. Quran is the Solution to every matter, Quran is the only source to best describe rules and principles related to our social,economic and political matters….. we the so called muslims (muslims by name only) have to pick up the quran if we are true believer, learn and teach the quran to our children so that we and our next generation are not misguided by anyone.
    And REMEMBER”’REMEMBER””REMEMBER”” When you contradict anything said in the quran you Contradict ALLAH (SWT). like someone would say ‘ about religion intereference in politics or in our social values” and like demand for western like rights for women. so let me ask you! where religion islam comes from. it is from quran, and Quran is from Allah. and by saying that ‘it is a clear contradiction with Allah.. so please refrain from it. and learn quran.Recommend

  • Sameer Usmani
    May 22, 2011 - 2:30PM

    Having read the same article in DAWN in the morning, without reading the comments, let me add another feather to this cap of discussion, The wikileaks or whatever leaks cables are just leaks of reports, if some of us remember that at least 1 country (Iraq) is destroyed on the basis of such false reports (which implied that the poor nation possessed WMDs) (and which later the Allied forces/governments termed a mistake, salute them for such a pretty mistake which led to the destruction of an entire country, that too and important country, destruction of millions of lives in Iraq as well the occupation forces involved, not to mention the great loss of innocent human lives, just for economic purposes, i.e. Oil)

    These reports, must hold no significance whatsoever, our country is facing much more engaging problems and instead of debating on such supposed propaganda by the international terrorist, we should stay focused on the problems and menaces which are proven, for example, corruption, irregularities in the national reserves, so on and so forth !Recommend

  • Chilli
    May 22, 2011 - 2:32PM

    Wikileaks only painting wrong picture of Muslims with purpose. Read Quran which clearly say that they are actually the ones causing trouble and posing innocent. Recommend

  • I_love_Pakistan
    May 22, 2011 - 3:11PM

    Some paid members are realy trying hard to support the Kingdom of SA and are using religion and consipiracies instead of logic in the discussion above. Whether or not Wikileaks, the funding of religious extremists by Saudi and UAE is not a secret, at least Not for Pakistanies. Saudi regime seems to have join hands with enemies of God to save their regime. They are now trying to associate the regime with the holy places but will not be able to fool in this age of wisdom. Hajj and other beliefs were practiced even before the House of Saud’s occupation of Hejaz. Turkish should move forward and help muslims free the land Hejaz from House of Saud and Bin Laden’s brand of Islam.Recommend

  • san
    May 22, 2011 - 3:12PM

    These camel lover has no sympathy for Pakistani lives. They enjoy the bloodshed of human beings because they love such kind of games as they are bored from horse racing.
    Calling them as Muslim brothers will be great shame for great religion of ISLAM. Recommend

  • I_love_Pakistan
    May 22, 2011 - 3:20PM

    @san: no wonder why they have a sword in their flag. The Qalma of peace is I believe misplaced in the flag.Recommend

  • san
    May 22, 2011 - 3:21PM

    @Dr. Saleem Siddiqi
    Keep your views with yourself. I feel sorry for people like you. Being a doctor and living in SA but still your mentally same like madsara Molvi. You need to go to Saudi Arabia why shall we thanks them. If you go to any Arab countries as Pakistani then they wont bother you even if your a Muslim. Recommend

  • May 22, 2011 - 3:39PM

    These Arab states are a bigger threat to our sovereignty than the US. The US atleast is criticized, ridiculed and a skeptical press in both Pakistan and the US insures that via leaks and statements we get an idea of what is going on. The Arabs are treated as above criticism while they exploit our labour and funnel their intolerance throughout the country. Recommend

  • SMR
    May 22, 2011 - 3:49PM

    not being rascist or anything but i absolutely hate the nation that brands arabia as saudi. not the people themselves but the government and kingship. they are cruel and barbaric tribal lords who happen to have a ton of oil under their feet, they dont use this wealth for the upliftment of muslims all over the world but for purposes of promoting their perverted version of islam as mentioned above. And of leading disgusting hedonistic hypocritical unislamic lifestyles and playing servants at the feet of foreign powers. nothing good that is in islam is preserved in saudi arabia, from the treatment of women to the fact that its ruled by a royal family of 1 fat guy with 200 spoiled kids(where women dont count btw).

    i usually dont say i hate anyone but the saudis of arabia are an exception.Recommend

  • Talha
    May 22, 2011 - 4:28PM

    Paid members of Saudi funding are trying to divert the topic here and espouse conspiracies.Recommend

  • Cautious
    May 22, 2011 - 4:40PM

    Proves that Pakistan and Saudi have at least two things in common — religion and the ability to say one thing and do another.Recommend

  • irfan
    May 22, 2011 - 4:46PM

    Yeah.. we all know very well that Pakistani r beggars and living on US aid and chinese offers… moreover it s a “land of pure”… no violence… no anti socialite, no terrorism… Pakistan is the most successful and the peaceful country in the world:):) Recommend

  • Haytt
    May 22, 2011 - 5:07PM

    Dr.Saleem Saddiqi , for your knowledge Prophet(SAW), was not a sunni or shia but a Muslim. He(saw) was the mightiest messenger of Allah(s.w.t) and seize to the prophet hood.
    Mirza
    hasan
    strongly agree with you, Recommend

  • Aamir
    May 22, 2011 - 5:41PM

    From last few weeks since Bin Laden’s death, some elements in Pakistan are promoting anti Saudi feelings with full force. I think they are half blind as they cannot see US and CIA interevention in Pakistan which escalated militancy not Saudi influence. Their attrocities and heavy fundings of touts and traitors are making Pakistan alone in the world. Lets call apple and apple and stop diverting attention as US is playing a dirty game in Pakistan by funding and purchasing bloggers.Recommend

  • Tahir
    May 22, 2011 - 5:42PM

    @dr siddiqui Yes you are right mr dr that we should be thankful to SA and UAE as they are doing a great service to humanity and Islam. What evidence you have, to prove your point. How many madrassa students have done a great job for our country or Islam. The answer is in negation. Because in these madrasas you are taught only one thing that you are devoted for religion and you are the only right person. All other who have a contrary view is kafir. I know numerous examples where lives of poor young pakistanies have been ruined in the name of religin. People like you remember this hadis Mubarak very well that only one firqa will go in jannah. And you and all those who are in SA are the right Muslims who will be in jannah.
    As for as din Islam is concerned it is not at stake. It is Allah who is protecting it and will continue to do so. SA and you don’t need to worry about it.Recommend

  • Arslan
    May 22, 2011 - 6:24PM

    So, who did the most damages to Pakistan:
    i) Saudi Arabia/UAE/’Islamic brothers’ in the Gulf who treat South Asians (Pakistanis, Indians, Bengladeshis,… Muslims or not) like sh..
    ii) the USA
    iii) or India ?Recommend

  • Explorer
    May 22, 2011 - 6:41PM

    @Muhammad Hanif:
    After reading your outpouring of respect for Saudi, I am left wondering if you have any regard left for the idea of PakistanRecommend

  • SHAKEEL AHMAD
    May 22, 2011 - 7:27PM

    100% correct leaks….we here this horrible situation facing from long but Pakistani Govt even it know better but doing nothing at all…for its interest.Recommend

  • Ba Ha
    May 22, 2011 - 8:31PM

    THE WORST KEPT SECRET IN THE WORLD. Recommend

  • Ashraf R
    May 22, 2011 - 8:44PM

    You have to wonder why everyone in the world (except China) is against Pakistan. Are we missing something here?Recommend

  • N Lodi
    May 22, 2011 - 8:48PM

    Saudi Arabia & UAE. This is mother of all evils. They are funding extremism in Pakistan, primarily to counter the Iranian Shia influence. Bin Laden was a Saudi. 15 out of 19 hi-jackers on 9/11 were Saudi. When will United States drop the hammer on Saudi-Arabia? Come on Obama…

    And then on top these Arabs treat Pakistani’s like crap. Screw them. Who the hell gave them rights to the oil that is miles below the earth’s surface. it is a shared resource and on top they run the Hajj scam looting people of millions and millions of dollars. Pakistan should strengthen ties with India, Iran and Afghanistan. That is where our vested interest should be. Not with these Arabs who have always exploited us for only their benefit.Recommend

  • N Lodi
    May 22, 2011 - 8:50PM

    Also Nawaz Sharif has now family ties with Saudi’s. I think one of his daughters is married to the Saudi royal family. So we simply cannot elect Nawaz and company. They will destroy Pak. Recommend

  • Mrs. Zaidi
    May 22, 2011 - 8:51PM

    the authenticity of WikiLeaks is yet to e decided, ut it seems that they are on the riht path!Recommend

  • Muhammad Hanif
    May 22, 2011 - 9:44PM

    the problem with us is that we people associate islam with saudi arab (mainly with the government of SA). please don’t associate islam with the governement of SA. The Government of SA at first place is not an islamic style government… and so far as the UAE is concerned i don’t call them islamic state anymore.. don’t know about SA.. but for sure if you live in UAE as a pakistani you will always find yourself at a disadvantage when compare to people from other country like india, srilanka…. and to make the pain worse Kuwait has also banned issuance of all kind of visa to pakistanies. Recommend

  • Hasan
    May 22, 2011 - 9:47PM

    I am waiting for Immu to do his next dharna at Saudi consulate.Recommend

  • Disco Molvi
    May 22, 2011 - 10:19PM

    @Dr. Saleem Siddiqi:

    Our beloved Prophet (SAW) followed
    Quran and he was Sunni

    Correct yourself there doc. Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h) was neither a Sunni as you claim, nor a Shia. He was a simple Muslim.
    The Sunni Shia divide came long after his passing.Recommend

  • Hafeez.Indian
    May 22, 2011 - 10:29PM

    @saad khan:
    Why do you point only “Muslim Countries”? This is out of religion. Many times (or atleast few times) Females treated as Second Grade even in developed countries.Recommend

  • Peace On Earth
    May 22, 2011 - 10:46PM

    And most Pakistanis blame Amerika or those “dhoti” Indians for all the problems facing our nation! These Islamic-obsessed nations care only about being in power and making more money.

    If the Saudis and UAE emirs were truly Islamic, why do they indulge in alcohol and extravagant luxuries at the expense of poor laborers (many of whom are Pakistanis)?

    At least in America, Pakistanis are treated as equals and with respect. Not so in the Gulf States where we are treated as slaves.Recommend

  • Hatim
    May 22, 2011 - 10:49PM

    A picture of three children reciting the Quran for this article is highly disrespectful to say the least. American propaganda has won. Recommend

  • Mushrik killer
    May 22, 2011 - 11:19PM

    we love Saudi Arabia and we are thankful for the charity they give to poor nation of Pakistan. and media twisted the news and show like this… so every one want to give fund to his religion or people who are getting education or getting military training… whats wrong ? is this because u disagree in faith with them and u are saying that they have no right to practice their religion ?Recommend

  • Madiha Shah
    May 22, 2011 - 11:25PM

    what type of Muslims you people? Let see the picture above, its clearly indicate that these innocent children recite the Holy Quran. how you consider these innocent as extremist. Actually our Eman are so weak, that we all saying these people who follow the Quran and Sunnat as terrorist and extremist. we all Pakistani are actually the dogs, whose are living on the pieces of roti of America, that why, we called all these innocent and best Muslims as extremist. Sham on all of you to be follow the America and their talks.
    but remember America will treat the Pakistan, same as they done with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya. And Abbot-Abad operation is the 1st step, see what happen next. R Pakistani still consider America as their friend?Recommend

  • Hasan Abidi
    May 22, 2011 - 11:57PM

    @ Mrs. Zaidi

    Cant agree w ya more.

    Before we shift the total blame of our current militant mindset and a social makeup devoid of any tolerance, to Zia ul Haq, Saudi Arabia , UAE, Pak Army funded jihadis, we must bear in mind, the sheer criminality of our inaction as a nation, to have allowed this transformation of our once secular n tolerant nation into a country synonymous with suicide bombers and global jihad.

    Its us, the 180 million silent majority, who are the real culprits and ” mujrims” of our motherland.

    Its us who have allowed these Saleem Siddiquis and Mohammad Hanifs, to hijack the very essence of our once peaceful society, open to the ” difference of opinion” principle, and the exercise of the very basic right to voice it.

    But when we surrendered these rights to the hidden radical and cave minded elements within us, they jumped at the opportunity, and killed every initiative of civility with it, silencing forever the thinking mind that dared to differ.

    While our establishment played Russian Roulette, with the destiny of this unfortunate country, all 180 million of us stood silent by the sidelines, endorsing our complicity to this greatest national tragedy.

    In the words of that secular and enlightened poet Dr. Iqbal, who prophetically told wat was in store for us, some 80/90 years back

    ” Dil hai Musalmaan tera naa mera
    Tou bhee namazi, main bhee namazi
    Main jaanta hun anjaam uska
    Jis maar-e-kay main Mullah ho ghazi ”

    S u can c the prophecy has come true, much to our great misfortune.

    Mullah is unfortunately the ghazi in our society, not to mention always the “shaheed” as well.

    While bigotry and intolerance hv taken the centre stage, the norms and much cherished traditions of peaceful co existence and acceptance of diversity have been discarded to the dustbin of our socio-political discourse.

    Again in the words of Allam Iqbal

    ” Ajab nahi k Khuda tak teri rasaai ho
    Teri nigah say hai posheeda aadmi ka muqaam
    Teri namaz main baqi na jalal hai na jamal
    Teri azan main nahi meri sehar ka paighaam ”

    May God help our unfortunate homeland, and may God awaken the sleepy 180 million souls to the harsh n cruel realities of their existence before its way too late.

    Hasan Abidi at [email protected]Recommend

  • Shock horror
    May 23, 2011 - 12:25AM

    It is clear that some religious bigots in the Land of Allah fund extremist networks in the Land of the Pure in order to destroy it. America does not need to have agents in the Land of the Pure when latter’s brother Islamic countries provide the funding to sponsor terrorists.Recommend

  • Noman Sheikh
    May 23, 2011 - 1:03AM

    @TightDhoti:

    As always, you are spot on. This Salafi cancer is slowly destroying our society without alarming us. But, make no mistake about what it will eventually lead to – an irreversible decline and subsequent disintegration of our society.

    I am reminded of this excellent television series on the matter – Yeh Kon Log Hain..Recommend

  • Arslan
    May 23, 2011 - 2:08AM

    @N Lodi:
    That was a ‘rumour’ in 2008, no ? I remember it, and I didn’t saw any confirmation at all.
    But, yeah, Nawaz Sharif is nearly a Saudi national now.Recommend

  • Aftab Kenneth Wilson
    May 23, 2011 - 2:11AM

    We all know and our agencies know more than anyone else that Saudi Arabia and Iran are involved in supporting their version of religion in our country but it is really strange and disturbing to read that UAE is also in this game of grooming. I have worked for more than a decade in UAE where ruling families are mostly liberals and show lot of respect towards those whom we call either Kafirs or Infidels in our country. All live side by side with their places of worships with all due respect. I personally don’t believe that UAE is involved in any funding of Jehadi groups in our country.Recommend

  • Zaid Munir
    May 23, 2011 - 2:56AM

    America is an all powerful country and yet they can not protect top-secret information from leaking. Wow, you must be dreaming to believe this. I think we should be more rational. Wiki leaks has very cleverly built its credibility by leaking things which APPARENTLY harm the U.S. interest. But if it is analyzed rationally, it has done more good to U.S. then harm.
    Wiki Leaks provides a bait and we are more than eager to take it.

    They write something and here we are fighting over it. How easily they have been able to give an orientation to our thinking. Wiki leaks only serves to create a bias which favors the U.S. in the end. Whether you agree or disagree with the leaks it has very efficiently planted a seed in our minds, whereby we are either positively or negatively thinking what they want us to think, blinding our rationalism.

    If one analyzes the comments above, it becomes apparent that anti-Saudia feelings are very much prevalent and some have even pointed out the need for America to GET Saudia. Interesting ain’t it, who benefits from all this? It’s not us, I am sure.

    The question is not whether the Saudi’s are saints or not. The question that needs to be answered is, does answering this question do any good? I guess not!Recommend

  • Noorudin
    May 23, 2011 - 7:29AM

    It is USA,UK,NATO responsible for terrorism in Pakistan and around the world.They motivated ‘Mujhadeen’ with their financial and every kind of support and after achieving their aims,they termed them as ‘terrorists,Muslim militants’ to suit their purpose.They wanted in Afghan-USSR war ,Saudi Arabia,every country to support them and now accuse S.Arabia and Pakistan .Why not blame Israel,India who have biggest terrorists,militants network supported by Mossad,Raw and right USA-CIA for terrorism in world.They are the main architect of terrorism-founding fathers who may have killed one thousand millions innocent civilians on their self assumed false wars and false pretexts to dominate world and establish their hedgehog.Recommend

  • Mirza
    May 23, 2011 - 7:53AM

    @Muhammad Hanif:
    Name one single country which has an Islamic system and is making progress in peace and harmony?

    As far as Saudi Arabia is concerned, the monarch is a stigma against Islam. The real Islam has no concept of Kings and their huge harems. How can a totalitarian characterless monarch be the leader of Islam? Shame on king and his puppets. Recommend

  • Jehanzeb Khan
    May 23, 2011 - 8:09AM

    usa-obama do not pass the buck of your crimes onto others.You were,are the biggest terrorists production center since Afghan-USSR war.You funded it and got it funded by every rich Muslim state and Pakistan by producing Mujaheddin in millions to oust Soviets from Afghanistan.Osama,children schools where funded by you all and now you blame others and have spent 1000 trillion dollars to now exterminate them unsuccessfully.Your modus operndi is failing your economy.Better come to peace to resolve the issue.Recommend

  • BruteForce
    May 23, 2011 - 9:01AM

    This wasn’t any secret to be revealed. Everyone outside Pakistan knows this. The only people who were oblivious to this fact are the Pakistanis themselves.

    I dont understand this “head in the sand” syndrome. India has not attacked Pakistan even once, but Pakistanis hate it, while Saudi Arabia abuses its citizens and encourages extremism, but people in Pakistan like them and will do anything for them.

    USA gives tonnes of money $50 Billion till date from the time of Pakistan’s birth and everybody hates it, but love the UAE again who have poisoned young Pakistanis.Recommend

  • shah sufi
    May 23, 2011 - 9:55AM

    Your comments are so full of it! Have you people lost your minds? The real foes of this country are sitting in Islamabad.Recommend

  • RizwanTKhan
    May 23, 2011 - 10:36AM

    This should be investigated keeping in view the element of conspiracy.Recommend

  • m Hussein
    May 23, 2011 - 11:12AM

    it’s time to save our country. These evil Arabs will only understand one thing which is force.
    I suggest we start what would be called nuclear diplomacy. One 20 kilo Tonnee nuke on Dubai will make them understand we can’t be pushed around and our children are not to be radicalized for their amusement.
    After that tell them to pay 500billion for reconstruction and rehabilitation of our population.
    It’s time for payback.Recommend

  • Jawad(Thunder)
    May 23, 2011 - 3:33PM

    As far as i got this cable is injected cable with very less truth and have a highly unauthentic material. The very funny of the thing is that even not a single diplomatic cable is connected with the ISRAEL secret plans about the terrorism plan in all over the world. Some cables have connections with TEL AVIV (ISRAEL), but not a single one is indicating other than Arab- Israel conflict…….So there is the point for many of educated ones.Recommend

  • Ahmed Abdul Aziz
    May 24, 2011 - 5:09AM

    The world knows the Pakistan takes the major Charity from the Gulf Countries. The policy of the Govt is When they go to Gulf they will ask, WHAT CHARITY DO YOU GIVE US, When any Gulf leader will come to Pakistan the government will ask, WHAT CHARITY YOU ARE BRING FOR US. >>>> If we see the history in 1970 when the country was planned for Nuclear Plant, Saudi Arabia has donated lot of oil for FREE OF CHARGE. That was the major contribution in those days.

    We are killed with drones because the government has accepted charity from the US and ordered to kill the civilians in the Balochistan, Wazirastan and showed them as Terrorists. >>>>> Ummah is killing Ummah.

    Recommend

  • Muhammad Haseeb
    May 24, 2011 - 9:30AM

    Comments posted by Mr. Mirza are shameful and ridiculous. Mr. Mirza first we have to check the authenticity of these news, without confirming all these you put the blame. How can you judge the message given in that report is correct? This can be an another conspiracy to indulge Muslims with another issue.Recommend

  • R S JOHAR
    May 24, 2011 - 10:26AM

    How can the the purest nation pollute the land of the pure ?Recommend

  • Iftikhar ul Hassan Haidry
    May 24, 2011 - 12:06PM

    Well, all this may b right. But America has to create a so called funding source for terrorist in Pakistan. And all this America has to do is to veil his own root involvement in this funding to extremist in Pakistan.Recommend

  • FARHAN
    May 24, 2011 - 12:45PM

    At Dr Saleem Siddiqui:

    Sir with due respect, i think you have never been to Pakistan in last 30 years. you are liviing in South Africa and making tall claims that contradicts ground realities in pakistan.

    1) Mullah Umer and other top Taliban leaders are happened to be the students of Pakistani Madrassahs.
    2) There is direct link between Arab money madrassah and extremism in Pakistan.

    I did not expect something like this coming from a “Educated Pakistani Doctor” living outside the country in South Africa.Recommend

  • Abbas
    May 25, 2011 - 11:16AM

    Well ths is like a universal fact (just like sun rises from east) which neither Saudi / UAE govt can deny.
    Saudi monarch funds all ths crap in Pakistan to make an army whch can then fight its proxy war against Iran. All the imams/mullas of ths particular sect are being paid monthly wages flowing in from the Saudi counslates. This is not some thng which comes from wikileak but from the horses mouth d pple who say prayers in ths masajids.

    Why do u thnk v hav protest in favour of Saudi Monarch in various cities of Pakistan who shouts anti Iran slogans and then retaliation from the other sect.

    Come on Pakistani after the blunder of Afghan Jihad you do not want to repeat the same blunders and send waste ur next generation to fight a war between Iran and Saudi in ths region. Both of them go to hell. If they want to fight they should do it in their own countries. Why should we let them our home land. No for sure you do not want to get in to mess for heaven sake wake up.

    Killing our own pple just bcoz they say prayer differntly, their heroes / role models r different does not make any sense. If u want to wage a war do against all the injustice and corruption u hav in ur own society. Only then God will help u. Otherwise u will keep fighting, killing each other and it will benefit none. Not even those who thnk they will get benefited from ths. Recommend

  • [email protected]
    May 26, 2011 - 11:24PM

    @Ammar Malhotra: Hi, i have lived for 15 years in UAE before moving to US. The gulf arabs are filthy and inhuman. Pakistan means nothing to them but a slave soldier. They need us more than we need them. Infact we are much better off without their filth. They can shove their own brand of Islam elsewhere.Recommend

  • mahadev
    May 27, 2011 - 3:17AM

    @Naushad Shafkat:

    Pakistani media is “Koopi Baaz”. It will never wake up.

    ShankerRecommend

  • Saeed Khalid
    Jul 1, 2011 - 2:05AM

    The birth of Wahabbiism and its support was a master stroke of the British brains to capture the focal points of the Muslim faith. With the birth place of Islam under its thumb through the illegitimate and morally fragile House of Saud the British dismembered the Ottoman empire and the muslims were further divided into states and groups. The Saudi King’s declaration of being the servant of Harmain is just a ploy to deny the places to their rightful caretakers from the Prophet(PBUH)’s family. The Saudi kings are scrared of the moral threat of the Prophet’s family and its impact on their rule which will sooner or later end. Hence all the persecution of Shias in Saudi Arabia and elimination of the Syeds and all the effort to export anti shia ideology in neutral countries like Pakistan. To me there are only two sects in Islam: those who love the Prophet and his family as ordained by Allah are one and those who hate them in their heart are the other. There is no other basis of division because rest all is semantics. Saudis are haters of Prophet’s family and the Prophet has said ” If you want to identify Munafiqeen take the name of Ali in the gathering and the one to get a frown on his brown is surely a munafiq.”Recommend

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